I do feel the need to point out that this really isn't my best work, while I don't think PewDiePie made good points in his video, I do like the dude and in retrospect vilify him way too much with some fairly weak arguments in this video. While some of my points from this video hold water some just really don't.
Stand by your points man. PewDiePie's arguments are vague and were easily deconstructed by you in this video. Your arguments didn't need to be top-of-the-line to achieve this.
One thing I have to say is, I didn't care when Loki died. Because he'd already died twice and came back fine. So I honestly thought he'd do the same after infinity war, considering the way he died was honestly insulting to his character. I mean, he's the god of mischief for crying out loud, he wouldn't just go up to the guy who just beat the goddamn Hulk into the ground with nothing but a knife. He'd play it smart, fake his death, and come back to wreck Thanos' shit when he had the chance. But, nope. He just died in the stupidest way possible.
Unfortunately a lot of people focus more on fandoms and act like they can't enjoy a piece of art itself for example I've heard people say they don't like Undertale because they don't want to associate with weabos(please excuse my spelling if there is officially a correct way to spell a word that isn't in the dictionary).
@@petelee2477 yeah the problem is that they infest it all. When you're trying to enjoy a piece of media, it's quite hard to when it's full of terrible people.
Also literally anything is either overrated or underrated: the public community tends to exaggerate everything. If something is initially viewed as bad (even if it isn't), it will be repeated so often that the opinion will avalanche into it being atrocious. If something is initially viewed as good, it will eventually be worshipped as a divine entity. The exaggeration only dies down and usually turns mildly positive either way after a relative while when something new that applies to the same concept takes over, like the Star Wars Prequels thanks to the Sequels.
@@porkcjop4167 how is it repetitive? Themes between marvel trilogies tend to stay the same but that's the point. No marvel soo trilogy has the same themes or nature as another tho
Pewdiepie: complains about how generic Marvel movies are Also Pewdiepie: Today I’m reading Reddit, tomorrow I’m reading reddit, Imma just read Reddit for a week or two Edit: Would someone please tell me why this video, and this comment are suddenly blowing up. I'm legitimately confused.
@@orangemonks894 well I don’t mean all I just mean most there are some I love like ragnorok infinity war endgame and civil war but most feel the same. It is impressive how they tied them all together but the fact they are still making more scares me
vulture is pretty much Walter White from Breaking Bad tbh, he's selling *illegal substance number 6* so that his family doesn't end up going bankrupt because of something unfortunate that made it so he was lacking in money.
i accept the reason of vulture why he went that way. he was a good citizen but because of giant corporations, they are losing their jobs. he was a good example of how to make a good villain. there should be a reason behind rather than bad because he is. like syndrome in incredibles. thanos snapped his fingers, wipe half of the universe to bring balance? when there are so many ways of doing it
@@farlonmuentes6004 He killed half of the popularity because he's delusional and narcissistic. He thinks that since his planet died he needs to stop it from happening in the universe
Also, he wanted to keep making enough money to ensure his family's financial security and a comfortable lifestyle so very literally the last thing he ever wanted was any kind of disruption that would draw attention to him. He just wanted to continue with his business. And now that he's behind bars, it's not like the world is saved, it's more like a couple criminals won't have an alien weapon supply. Which is a very good thing. But why did he do what he did? For the destruction of the world? No, for his daughter's future college education and to pay mortgages.
I hate breathing. Too many people breathe, and they're just so passionate about it. It borders on creepy just how excited people get about breathing. Not to mention that breathing is just so formulaic. You expand and contract your lungs, there just isn't anything to it at all. I'm just tired of doing the same thing over and over again. And think about all of the people who do horrible things, like murder and terrorism. THEY BREATHE! It's damaging! I guarantee that if all of us just stopped breathing, there wouldn't be any crimes anymore. No one will get bullied or kidnapped or robbed if no one breathed. What about all of those people that have trouble breathing? Asthmatics shouldn't have to look at other people and be jealous that they can breathe better. Oh, and don't even get me started on the reasons people breathe. They do it, to LIVE. I know right? How selfish is it that people breathe for its actual purpose? Can't we all just do it for other reasons?
oh yeah yes ohhhhhh.... breathing it's so gooo0000oooood aw yeah haaahuuuuhaaaahuuu the air entering and exiting my lung when the air pressure of my lung change due to my diaphragm contracting it's so great!!!!!
7:50 - "you screaming at a guy dressed in a suit". Yeah... cause people don't react the same way when they see a youtuber on stage. Fans are fans. They scream...
And at least they're applauding to an actor, an artist who plays a role and (with Loki) very well played. In every conference, with or without costumes, the people applause when an actor, director, writer, producer, that they respect comes to the scenario. The people wants a photo with him, only because he makes stupid jokes in front of a camera, so, Why the people can't love the work of an Actor?... This is hypocritical.
He makes it sound like the suit is the reason they are screaming. Like if I was one on that stage, waring that suit, they would still scream just as loud. ...you know what maybe he’s right! I must try that some time.
@@elgenialbap No it's not hypocritical because in another video he says "I don't like going to conventions like vidcon because people start screaming when they see me, like why are you screaming I'm just a youtuber"
>comic book story >too unrealistic You don't go to a pool if you don't want to get wet, and you shouldn't watch a Marvel movie if you have a problem with unrealistic things.
Where will you draw the line though? If I said I'm not watching entertainment fiction for being unrealistic, I'd have to start watching documentaries. Watching a fictional story requires at least to a degree suspension of your disbelief.
@Ida Preston People appreciate heroes like Cpt A because of the movies promoting selfless actions, telling you that if you can help a large number of people at the cost of inconveniencing yourself (in this case, sacrificing) you should do it. You see a grenade on the floor and yours, as well as everyone elses first instinct is to run away, but Cap dives on the grenade to stop the blast from killing anyone else/ Would you sacrifice yourself in order to save 5 other people? Not to mention the acting of Chris in that scene, from his expression you really get the feeling that he's less than a second away from being blown to pieces, I can onlly imagine the tension in his mind while he's waiting for that explosion.
I'm really tired of people crapping on CGI. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH HARD WORK GOES INTO THAT? You're watching an almost photo-realistic scene almost completely made on a computer, and it's not impressive?! By the way, Marvel *does* have many impressive practical effects, too. Just google how they made Cap, Bucky and T'Challa run faster than speeding cars in Civil War.
Impressiv isnt the same word as good or like it. I can find something impressiv, but still dont like it. I find it really impressiv how rock music is made, i still dont like it. Even if i find CGI impressiv, that doesnt mean that i have to like it.
There are just a whole lot of examples, where the impressiveness of CGI makes a movie look less realistic. Not all CGI is bad. By no means. But sometimes it just doesn't fit the scenes or come off as a cheap way to hide illogical decisions. A good example are the Hobbit movies: The CGI was impressive, but made the orc soldiers look so well equipped and cool that it broke the immersion. We got a great looking CGI fight, that made no sense in the world's logic. CGI often leads to the decision to make something look cooler than it should look like and therefore realistically unrealistic. The battle scenes of most Avenger's movies are very impressive, but at the same time so shallow and dragged out. Way too much hitting CGI drones and bantering imho. Large scale battles but not much strategical movement shown. I don't need to see superheroes beating the crap out of things/people, that stand no chance against them, for a long period of time. I can see why it is entertaining. It is as entertaining as a good hack'n'slash game. I couldn't care less about those impressive CGI scenery and enemies, when there is not much more meaning to them than looking cool or impressive, though. For me such scenes are beyond boring. I almost slept throughout Age of Ultron. Sometimes I would wish for a more minimalistic approach including CGI. Don't use it to flex muscles. Use it, when it is needed to effectively tell a story.
I mean, the thing that sold the Iron Man movies was Robert Downy Jr. He's gone, so even if they do make more "Iron Man" movies, Iron Man himself is gone, so the point is still moot.
PewDiePie says we need more diversity Sony: Hold my beer... *Creates Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse consisting of two Spider-Women, a 1940’s version, a African-Hispanic teenage Spider-Man, a deadbeat, overweight and old Spider-Man and a frickin’ Spider-Pig.*
Pewdiepie complaining about Black Panther being the “first” black superhero in the MCU while forgetting War Machine whos been in the MCU since IRON MAN 1
Just like Spider-Man, who gets his powers basically for free but then loses his uncle because he refused to use them for the good of the people, the consequences of which caused him to become a hero of the people
That's why he is different yes he didn't earn them but he struggles with them and feels like he has an obligation to be spider man and help he loses friendships people he cares about and when he diches people they see him as a douchebag, plus in some media he even saids he wish he didn't get his powers, peter parker is a smart kid he could have been the next tony stark and live the dream but he puts that aside to be spider man honestly thats pretty good storytelling
12:05 Just like Bucky who got his powers and skills for free by being tortured and brainwashed by Nazis- nope Just like Rocket who got his skills for free by being taken apart and put back together and engineered to be a- nope Just like Scarlet Witch who got her powers for free by volunteering to fight for her country but unknowingly being almost killed and kept in a cell by Hydra- nope Just like Black Widow who got her skills by being trained day in and day out no matter what for most of her life and then getting sterilized so she couldn't feel guilty about what she does- nope Um... Just like... Quicksilver who got his powers by unknowingly volunteering to fight for Hydra with his sister.. and then dying... _NOPE_
the point is it's basically the same shit and everything is so predictable super hero movies are fun at best and are created to keep dumb people entertained Marvel movies are just stories for kids and the fact that people admire and idolize people that are not real is stupid
Oh shut up marvel movies aren't always made for kids have you seen logen and deadpool boi and Also some of these people are not stupid they know these characters are not real they just liked the characters and people who played them in the movie and you're the one who is stupid believe this crap and one more thing don't say superhero movies are fun at best as a fact is a opinion which is yours by the way =/
And Also my guy the movies are not all the same they different storys and vilains with different goals even if they are same they add some new stuff to keep it interesting sooooo yeah =/
@@charleshastings9452 I feel like thats exactly what a genre is...a collection of events or actions in a typical version of a film, aka film troupes or the like, you dont want a horror movie and complain that the killer kills someone do you? you enjoy the movie for how it makes you feel, how they stop said killer, ect. I watch highly CGI action superhero movies, because i like being put into a world that doesnt exist to experience a fantasy, just like someone would watch a horror film to be scared and the like. If you dont like superhero movies, okay, but not liking superhero genre because its a genre is fucking dumb. Its the same with all types of media, you dont listen to country music and complain that they are all basically the same, because you actively avoid the differences.
"No one is actually trying to be iron man" *cringe inducing flashbacks to middle school me trying to read physics and machine text books to learn how to build iron man*
That's a positive influence though! Getting kids more interested in science. I did not get his arguments that spuerhero movies are bad influences at all.
well that's just stupid. what, there goal is to be a flying man in a suit so you can feel like a superhero? so redeeming and totally worth the time and resources of humans on this declining earth.
@@valkookie it's because there is no such thing as the superhero archetype they present in those movies. in life you dont just get handed powers that automatically make you a hero. a real "hero" is someone that struggles for good BCUZ it is hard-thats what's heroic about it. these "powers" dont actually represent anything redeeming to inspire people to attain- flying, fire balls, slinging web... what is meaningful about that besides it just being subjectively useful (not necessarily good)? things like empathy, perseverance, faith in oneself, etc are actually real strengths.
polesmoker "these powers don’t represent anything redeeming to inspire" Buddy, have you ever heard of myths and tales? Stories that inspired billions of people even before modern media such as even books? Just look at the adventures of ancient deities and heroes like Hercules or even Jesus, they’re way more absurd than a guy being the best engineer in the world. If you reduce any story that drastically, a soldier is nothing more than a gun either.
Mayar Emrezeeq Well still. People ‘overreact’ to seeing him. That’s the thing, it’s not about how he just ‘doesn’t like it’ when people react to him, it’s about how he’ll still get the same reaction because he’s famous, regardless of what clothing he’s wearing.
Pewdiepie directly contradicts himself when, in the SAME VIDEO, he says both of these things: "Why do people look up to superheroes? Super powers are unachievable and therefore superheros aren't good role models." "Why does skin color matter? Superficial shared characteristics like that aren't important. Just because lightning McQueen is a car doesn't mean I can't look up to his character." *DOES HE HEAR HIMSELF?*
LawofCinema He dislikes the movies but never formed a coherent reason why so in the video he just talked without regard for consistency, that's what I think anyway.
I’d say it’s because he thinks of things on the spot, spits them out, then never thinks about them again. It works for humor and gameplay vids but it makes for weak opinions and arguments.
but people idolize superheroes because of what they stand for, going above and beyond to do the right thing, most of the time risking their own safety to protect others something that most of us wouldn't do . "with great power comes great responsibility" and all that not just the superpowers, spider-man is more than just super strength, spidey sense and web slinging. unless your a kid, then it's just because they look cool
@@navneetrajesh4950 Um.. his fandom literally started bullying Indians I don't know what you are talking about- (and no I'm not talking about the whole fandom but a big part of it)
Wait, so he’s saying he also hates Star Wars because they also have a large connected universe, lots of CGI, and unachievable standard of super abilities? Along with, Pixar, Transformers, Star Trek, etc...
I dont understand why sequels have been made into a negative thing, they arent always just cash grabs and are often the extension and addition of stories for beloved characters. Most of the MCU sequels have been pretty good and refreshing
And also the fact that MCU has been planned all the way from first iron man to infinity war, planting seeds, easter eggs, and foreshadowing in almost every movies leading up to infinity war. I cannot really say that it's just cash grabs.
Good vs Bad, Likeable main character but that doesnt really gets to be different or get more deep development, Childish jokes, Good wins. Can you actually tell me that 80% of the Marvel films dont follow this script?
Siman_QL You really wanna tell me that each avenger has the same personality, that in every other action movie good wins, and that if you boil a movie down to the bare essentials it sounds like the exact same movie no matter what it is about?
Barry Bat i didnt say the same, i said not really different. They all are very alike in many ways but (obviously) they have different personalities what i say is that in most of them we dont get to see something more deep about them (Tony stark being the main exception because he’s in like 7 movies). I know all action movies good wins and if you wanna consider the Marvel movies as just action movies then you agree with me, they’re all the same.
I would consider myself a fan of the MCU who hasn't really read much comics. In response to the movies being the same is complete bs. Captain America the winter soldier; a movie which features a badass independent female superhero (Black widow) as almost equal role as cap and explores distinct themes of trust, justice and corruption within the government and high level organisations.This is not even remotely similar to Thor Ragnorok which is a fun movie that has the threat of Hela which explores family relationships and abandonment. There is distinctive themes within MOST of the mcu movies and has various writing and production styles that can even justify them being in different genres.
Explores themes eh? Trust , justice, and corruption? Laughable. Not to say that I hate marvel, but just showing up hydra infiltrating shield? No. Please, no.
The problem that Pewdiepie was most likely trying to point is that most marvel movies core message is quite shallow in comparison to anime's... Sure, they are still relevant, and that's probably their focus, corruption, family issues, etc. But still, it's nothing we don't know already right? Anime on the other hand, usually focus much more on psychological issues rather than existing ones, Fate & Stay Night for example, the core message of it is that "being a hero is fucking dumb", sounds weird, right? But they're absolutely right, self sacrifice isn't always the solution and it is proved through the series multiple times. That kind of morality was mind blowing to a younger me and I can easily say, no Marvel movies has ever had that depth in them... Hell, even Naruto, which is a poorly written story has more depth in it, as Sasuke betrayal of his country was actually onto something, because that allowed him to be strong enough to do shit on the series...
lllKXlll “pewgay lover” marvel movies have as depth as anime. When people are just too dumb to not realise the inner depth of marvel movies, but that’s not marvel’s problem. Anime is twisted which has good values but just isn’t even presented good. The presentation is usually so bad
@@haris9649 Marvel's core message: Killing bad, Helping good. Anime core message: Self sacrifice is stupid, one shouldn't value others life if they can't value its own; Hard work doesn't mean success, because if that was true, it'd mean the loser was slacking off, which is not always true.
So basically his entire argument was "I'm sick of superhero movies because I'm convinced they are all the same despite not having watched them all and not looking deeper into the realms of story telling and character writing to further understand why people love them so much." Then proceeds to list Non-marvel movies produced by third parties that have nothing to do with the studio aside from copyright. We don't love them because "OOOO~ Sparkly super hero", but because we are invested in their developmental arcs. Also It's funny how at 8:20 he contradicts himself. He does know he is a UA-camr right? He does know that his fans do that too right?
Well can you give an example of where a marvel movie isn’t just good guy sees bad guy, they fight, good guy wins? If you’ve seen all of them then surely there is a couple that differs from the formula
LMAO CHARACTER ARCS. funny quippy man = character writing. Not one character develops in Marvel movies. Honestly - I'd have more respect if y'all just admitted it was about the spectacle of cool superheroes but don't act like it's some feat of character writing - all that tells me is you have no idea what you're talking about.
This guy has watched daredevil or punisher ☠️☠️ I mean he thinks all Marvel films are the same he literally compared Spider-man to deadpool bruh yes there are similarities but deadpool is no superhero and the villain isn't like over the top like most MCU villains.
"It's a guy in a suit" Yeah, the beloved actor dressed as one of the most favorited characters in the MCU. The fans there didn't even know he was going to show up, making it that much more amazing for Tom to show up in costume.
Felix's claim that it's just a guy in a suit is like saying Taylor Swift or Ed Sharon are just people with microphones. It's what you so with the suit/microphone that makes it special.
And wouldn’t people go crazy if Felix just showed up to, idk, almost anywhere where people have access to internet. He’s just a guy with a PC setup and camera.
I still see his point though. I'm a Marvel fan and will scream if I see Tom Hiddleson dressed in his costume. But we are clearly idolizing him or his invented, not real, character. Pewds is a simple dude who simply wants to live his life. It's pretty clear he doesn't like to be in the constant spotlight and hates being put on a pedestal. That's what we do with Tom Hiddleson though. It's understandable he doesn't like it.
I like to classify them as: Fanbase is the people that follow and generally enjoy a piece of media Fandom is the cancerous part of the fanbase that can't take any criticism and always think what they like is perfect and with no mistakes.
@@THEPELADOMASTER Nah I classify both under the big ol' umbrella of "fandom" because I recognise the good and the bad and believe that it would not be good to seperate them, the fandom is all the people that like something or follow something to me. and I still despise the word "cancerous" being used to say "toxic", "immature", or "literally any other word that can mean 'bad''.
@@nermervillarreal2691 He could have said that he didn't like the ones he saw personally (he obviously hasn't seen all of them). Instead he tried to justify it with objective arguments against them. All his arguments can easily be flipped on things he likes. Anime being the easy choice here. Just saying "it's my opinion" doesn't protect your points from being criticised.
The Raven you’re right. And I think those things happen when the initial reaction is disliking which then leads to just not liking it as a whole. There’s also generalization of some sort about the subject and that desire everyone has to be different... You know, that thing you just don’t like but everybody else does? Maybe stupid, but it happens to everyone. ... I think.
I'm pretty sure not that many MCU films even follow Felix's formula. Correct me if I'm misremembering anything, but IIRC: Iron Man: hero and villain don't have powers, hero wants to atone, and the villain wants profit through weapons manufacturing. Only really peace and destruction if you water the motivations down three or four times. Incredible Hulk: hero wants to be normal, villain wants power. Iron Man 2: hero wants to not die, villain wants revenge, still no powers. Thor: hero wants his powers back, villain wants to prove his worth as Odin's son which leads to genocide. Captain America 1: yeah this one follows Felix's formula, but the fact that it's the 5th MCU film and the only one that inarguably follows every part of Felix's formula is telling. Avengers: half the heroes don't have powers, villain wants conquest, and at least one of the heroes just wants his brother back. Iron Man 3: the villain has powers, hero doesn't, villain wants revenge and hero wants to quell his anxiety. Thor 2: another one that I'll concede to Felix (and I'm one of five people that actually likes Thor the dark world), Malekith wants to end the world and Thor wants to stop that (though also wants to avenge his mom and brother). Captain America 2: the villains don't have powers (Winter soldier doesn't count, he was a victim, and the main villain was still Pierce), villains want control through engineering safety, the hero wants freedom though has to add more conflict to the world in order to do so. Guardians: villain wants destruction, heroes want profit and later to "give a shit", so I guess that counts. Although only one of the Guardians has powers. Avengers 2: villain wants the earth to grow stronger initially through making humanity evolve and then just killing humanity and making him and his robots the top dogs. Heroes want to stop him and prove that they are ultimately good for the world despite the villains claims of them causing stagnation. Ant Man: no powers, villain wants profit, and the hero wants to be in his daughters life. Captain America 3: villain has no powers, never fights the heroes, wants revenge, and wins. Heroes want a bunch of things, ranging from atonement to justice to stability amongst themselves, and like half of them still don't have powers. Doctor Strange: hero earns his shit like Naruto (I'll just be brief about how Naruto qualifies for earning his stuff by Jay's standards, but not Felix's), and doesn't beat the villain, he wins through annoying the villain who wants dominance. Guardians 2: Ego wants dominance, Guardians want to stop him. I guess this counts but it overlooks a lot of the more interesting parts of Guardians 2, showing just how shallow this formula is. Spider-Man Homecoming: hero wants to prove his worth, villain wants to make and sell weapons on the black market and doesn't have powers. Thor 3: hero wants peace, villain wants conquest, though it's made clear Hela is a combat fetishist. Thor doesn't beat her though, he has to summon Armageddon to stop her. Black Panther: hero wants peace, villain wants dominance through immense violence, but this overlooks that the villain was created because of the type of society the hero inhabits and the hero learns from the villain and takes steps to prevent more Kilmongers from existing in the future. Avengers 3: the heroes and villain both want to save the universe, but the villains believes mass death is the answer and the heroes don't want that. I'm gonna stop here because this comment is long enough and I've proved my point that this formula doesn't even really apply to that much of the MCU.
(also the villain wins in Avengers 3) Ant Man 2: "Villain" wants TO NOT DIE, heroes are just sort of whisked into things while one wants to find his lost wife. Captain Marvel: Hero wants ?????????, villains want ????????? Avengers 4: Heroes want to bring back their dead allies and undo the damage villain caused. Villain... wants to destroy them, hey this one actually kinda lines up, if you ignore almost everything else about the movie. Spider-Man 2: Hero just wants to enjoy his vacation and maybe not be pressured into filling the role of his dead mentor, Villains want revenge on the first movie's hero.
*_Funny Captions Fails:_* _PewDiePie:_ Ironman dies _Captions:_ I remand eyes _SinsSins:_ Wakanda _Captions:_ what Kondo _SinsSins:_ PewDiePie _Captions:_ Peter guy
Yes, Naruto worked so hard for his powers, it's not like he's the reincarnation of the most powerful ninjutsu user and get a demon fox put in him on the day he was born that gives him an almost endless supply of chakra. All hard work 100%.
That to me is the biggest thing that nearly invalidates Pewdiepies opinion; he likes anime. I'm not an anime fan, but from what I understand, anime, superhero movies, fantasy and scifi are very similar in their formula. They're all about the heros journey, and powers, be they magical or superhuman or technologically achieved. And I can admit that I have no real reason why I don't like anime. I like fantasy stuff and superhero movies, but for some reason I just don't like anime. Pewdiepie is totally welcome to not like Marvel but he hates Marvel for the same reasons he likes other genres... Or he likes other genres despite all those characteristics, like oversaturation or similar storylines.
@@atinity6749 He didn't dislike MCU because of magic power people flying around and love Naruto because of magic people flying around. It's hard to explaine but let start with this question: From captain america 1 to endgame, how many time did captian america got shot at, stabbed, chased by enemies or find himself in dangerous situation?
@@raindownchoas He didn't dislike MCU because of magic power people flying around and love Naruto because of magic people flying around. It's hard to explaine but let start with this question: From captain america 1 to endgame, how many time did captian america got shot at, stabbed, chased by enemies or find himself in dangerous situation?
"Black Panther is the first black superhero!" *cough cough* Rhodey and Falcon *cough cough* And Rhodey got the suit in Iron Man 2, the third MCU film to be released... Edit: Everyone in the comments is saying he meant the first black superhero movie, but...Blade exists (unless you're talking MCU) Edit 2: Why y'all still replying I made this comment a year ago and didn't brain it out too much
Basically Felix tried to talk about something he knows very little about. All of his points are extremely shallow and can be disproven by almost anyone.
@@itsmeok6205 "What If...?" is basically a series on, what if that happened instead of that? Sorry if I'm confusing, so I'll provide an example. In Civil War, at the final fight, what if Captain America had killed Iron Man instead of stopping? Or if Iron Man DIDN'T die in Endgame? In a series that explores on what would happen if a certain character made another decision or an event goes another way, it's impossible to not include a character that has already died in the movies.
PewDiePie: You're yelling at a guy in a suit. Me: Oh you know it's not like the guy in the suit is talented actor who amazingly embarrassed and played the role of Loki the god of Mischief from Norse Mythology. And said actor appeared in costume as said fan favorite character thus making the fans scream and yell out of excitement. It totally couldn't be THAT. Also PewDiePie used WoW and the Warcraft movie as an example. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Warcraft movie based off the Warcraft real time strategy games? And not World of Warcraft? And Naruto? Really? The boy who is the reincarnation of an ancient person who lived long ago along with the fact Naruto's father sealed a fox demon inside of him.. yeah totally worked for his powers totally.
I'm only gonna disagree on the Naruto bit. I'm not an expert in Naruto. I've only seen the first 15 ish episodes of the Naruto show simply titled Naruto. Naruto was an outcast who was close to failing whatever class it was and proving that he is nothing but incompetent. The only episodes I've ever seen is Naruto failing so I don't know where "he didn't work for his power" came from.
@@theskepticpirate156 Will have to disagree with the Naruto part too. Yes, he was granted a lot throughout the story but none of that would have mattered if he had not gone through blood, sweat and tears to master it and control it. That and, as @The Skeptic Pirate pointed out, he was a complete dumb as shit and incompetent outcast at the beginning. Naruto is kinda like most RPG video game characters - they start out like crap and by the end of the game are very OP, but they wouldn't be like that if they didn't acquire the XP through their own efforts.
i don't like marvel movies. and i have no reason other than they're just not my thing. i totally understand why people like it and i can see that it's quality film making. i just don't like it. pewdiepie is just clutching at straws here
Thank you. I love the MCU and respect opinion opposing my own but I don't when their REASONING and LOGIC is wrong. "I have heard you have made an opinion, but given it's a stupid ass opinion I've reckoned to ignore it."
@Bobs Vegana imagine responding to comment responding to a stupid comment responding to a 4 month old comment responding to a video made a year before smh
One film: about a rich guy getting kidnapped and creating gear to protect the earth Other film: about a mutant team trying to standing up for there kind and unescalate a soon to be war Pewdiepie: OmG tHeY aRe ThE sAmE
Let me just say that a lot of fandoms are pretty cancerous, Marvel fans aren't that bad, it's really just an intense rivalry with DC when it comes down to it. And it's funny that Felix brings up anime as an example against the MCU when fandoms for some anime and western cartoons are just the absolute worst out there.
The problem with CGI is that few understand it, practical effects most people get, while for a lot of people just think of CGI as a "press a button to do anything" Which even if it is true, does it really have to take you out of the movie for you to like the movie?
The CGI is also really good. Sure, it will become dated, but for now, it's pretty spot on. I think it's just when someone knows it's CG, they can't suspend their disbelief enough because they lack creativity or investment in the story. I think everyone can agree, no matter how bad a film's special effects are, if they story is good, the film is good. So using CGI as a reason to not like something is an excuse the brain creates to avoid adressing the real issues (of Felix just has absolutely no creativity whatsoever, honestly, I'd believe either).
@@haris9649 Pretty much the whole of black panther(especially the last fight scene). The entirety of spider man hoemcoming when they made tom hollands suit vfx when they really could have just used practical effects. Civil war, iron man's suit looks a little iffy. And in infinity war, when Bruce Banner's head is sticking out of the hulk buster suit, it looks god awful.
FURY: After New York, I convinced the World Security Council we needed a quantum surge in threat analysis. For once, we're way ahead of the curve. ROGERS: By holding a gun to everyone on Earth and calling it protection. FURY: Y'know, I read those SSR files. Greatest generation? You guys did some nasty stuff. ROGERS: Yeah, we compromised. Sometimes, in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so that people could be free. This isn't freedom. This is fear." From a movie that, apparently, does not question what's good, and what isn't.
my friend once told me that The Winter Soldier is one of the worst Marvel movies and i laughed in his face and called him brain dead. he rewatched the movie and apologized to me later.
The winter soldier is a solid movie but u r contributing to the cancer of the fan base that can't take criticism. He doesn't enjoy it which is fine BC the winter soldier has a bunch of weird things in it. Personally I think how they used Bucky was weird in the movie but still enjoyed the movie as a whole
@@msr2566 when people conglomerate into groups, and in these groups create a closer group that are called "friends" a common way to strengthen the groups cohesion is to playfully "rib" eachother.
But that doesn’t necessarily means he enjoys having a fan base like that. He’s said multiple times that he wishes his fans could be more relaxed and tamed and he has even stopped taking pictures with them. He asked them and they stopped so maybe that speaks to how passionate they are but I doubt people would stop begging Drake for photos of he asked them to stop.
7:50 - "you screaming at a guy dressed in a suit" yeah its almost like tom hiddleston would be an famous actor or something... i would love to get an answer from pewdiepie to this question... "what would happen if you would go to vidcon"? something similar? maybe?
Yeah but... it’s still a guy in a suit. It just shows how big is the fanatism for this movies and how popular they are, when a bunch of people are yelling like crazy for an actor doing his job in front of you (which wasn’t a big demonstration of acting skills or anything) well... they’re yelling at the character, not the person.
Suicideinsilence exactly! They yell at Beyonce: the woman, the artist, the musician. On that moment when Loki appeared they went nuts because it was Loki in front of them, not just the actor, but the character. That’s what shows the fanatism that they have, now they are yelling at fictional characters. It wasn’t even a trailer or a big announcement, just a Fictional character appearing in front of them. The thing is... if those were just kids yelling that would be fine, the adult part is what is concerning.
Personally, hearing those fans cheer when infinity war was announced actually gave me goosebumps. It was really epic just hearing how passionate and excited everyone there was.
@@davidthevatheril1530 I think the proper and polite thing to do in that situation is to contain all your emotions and feelings and shit them out later at home?
What I got from his video is: 1. He doesn't understand what a cinematic universe is supposed to be 2. He thinks he's special for not liking something popular 3. He can't grasp the concept of fans coming together to enjoy something they all love
Also I don't get the argument "it follows the same formula" All genre films follow a formula but what people love is the stories within them, how it affects the character and changes their actions both in everyday life and when they next suit up to save the world. The mcu characters almost always face the consequences of their actions, it may not always pay off well but they still do.
Pewdiepie: The MCU has no moral ambiguity. 'Bury me in the ocean, with my ancestors that jumped from ships, because they knew that death was better than bondage.
Tfatws: near total moral ambiguity Gotg: good guys are morally ambiguous (though the bad guy is obviously more evil) Civil war: MORE near total moral ambiguity
it's a shame really if that's the case. I judge things that I don't know much about but usually I have some form of experience. Like with DC I have seen some of the films and can form a reasonable opinion from that. I did get the impression with how he phrased his words and the examples he used that he hasn't seen most of the marvel movies hes talking about. I wonder if his opinion would be different if he had seen them all.
scalpingsnake It would at least be more nuanced. He claims these are his personal opinions, but they sound incredibly similar to clickbait headlines I’ve seen on different websites. It’s like he just scrolled real quick through a few tweets that have no context and called it research.
scalpingsnake just to clarify are you saying his opinion is bad cause the opinion is I don’t like marvel movies or is it bad cause he’s saying that without watching any of them
Does everyone have to say exactly the same thing? 100% Of the comments going against Pewdiepies opinion says ''but you like anime'' like that changes anything that he said about the Marvel films.
@@siman_ql5729this one works because Anime is ANIMATED. Pewds critiqued marvel movies for being filled with CGI, that it's like an ANIMATED movie. It contradicts in a sense. I know he didn't mean it like that
What's your point exactly? Just because I'am not a chef doesnt mean I cant criticize someone for making shit food What you are have no relevance to whether you can critique something or not,especially when you have no control over the said thing
@@nra3zehuti781 the difference is that he is a leader of a cult your example would go like a chef who makes shit food, criticizes other shit food is itonic
the most subscribed youtuber complains about oversaturation, repeated structuring, screaming fans (wtf people used to get hurt at Vidcon stampeding when they heard pewdiepie was there) and used so many other terrible arguments. Comparing race in America to people saying they can't relate to a damn talking cartoon car? That brings his IQ into question. That part showed his ignorance to cultural problems; black kids were forced to idolize others who don't fully look like them therefore there is always a small disconnect. Black Panther gave black kids a movie full of people who look like them portrayed as heroes. . .Pewdiepie never said anything about black people being portrayed as thugs and gangsters lol. Anyone who has a problem with that has hidden biases plain and simple. Sorry for the paragraph. Dope video love your thought processes
I understand your point but how does it bring his iq into question. Pewdiepie doesn't read the comics he's not a massive superhero fan and he's probably not a film expert.
@@minor7805 it's more about the fact he is completely ignorant to all the nuance that exists in this situations. As a man that's been smeared constantly for racist and shit don't ya think he would become a little bit educated on the topics at hand?
@@minor7805 It understandably doesn't bring his IQ in question. It does however bring his EQ in question. Being a white guy, born in a White country and living in a White country, what does he know about why it matters to people of colour that they are represented? While his sentiments are worthy (that you don't need to be of my race for me to idolise you, you just need to be a good human being), they are not helpful because they rely on being invisible to colour, which doesn't work. OF COURSE White communities and coloured communities are different. Of course there's a difference between Asian culture and European culture. The solution to equality problems isn't to close your eyes, stuff fingers into your ears and pretend everybody is the same even though deep down you can see they aren't the same. The solution is to open your eyes and ears and heart, see that people are different, but know that that isn't a reason for us to discriminate. Difference has, will should always exist. Discrimination doesn't have to.
"AT LEAST NARUTO WORKED HARD TO GET HIS SUPERPOWERS" - Son of one of the most powerful ninjas in Konoha. - Son of a Tailed Beast Host. - Is an actual Tailed Beast Host thanks to his dad. - Descended from the strongest being in Narutoverse. - Is an reincarnation of the son of the strongest being in Narutoverse. - Has one of the Legendary Ninjas as his personal tutor. - Is the prophesied Chosen One LOL.
Thank you, was just about to say this. Sure, he did work hard. Be he also had a fuck ton of good fortune and opportunities handed to him. And he is literally the child of prophecy, he was born to do good things and change the world. Rock Lee was the ultimate symbol of hard work to be an amazing version of yourself and keeping up with blessed, natural genius peers. (until he got shafted in Part 2)
@@Zak-bv4qm "They'll make prequels" I'd like to see them make an Iron Man prequel without any Iron Man tech given that he first got the idea for the Iron Man suit in the first movie.
@@nobudgetreviewer exactly! And once he's done in the avengers movies and all his other little roles throughout (cough death cough) then he won't be in the movies anymore unless they back in time such as they're doing in Captain marvel with coulson
"I don't like CGI because it doesn't look realistic, looks like I'm watching an animated movie" hmmm... There's something wrong with animated movies? I'm almost an animator (still learning) and I love marvel movies, specially the Hulk effects because they are animated
Seriously though, totally agree. Honestly, most of my personal favorite live action movies and shows are the ones that feel like animated movies and shows (except live action adaptations of cartoons, with some exceptions). These projects can allow audiences to go into worlds that you wouldn't be able to go into in real life, while eerily reflecting ours. In other words, as they say in the Simpsons: "You want a down to earth show- that's off the wall and filled with magic space robots?" THIS is why I love the MCU. In 12 years we have met Gods who's worth a symbolized by hammers, a raccoon that likes guns raising a tree that talks like a Pokemon, a man that can turn into a muscle bound monster, a man and a women that can change their sizes, and a giant purple alien that somehow manages to be both terrifying and sympathetic, in a series that somehow manages to pull at our heartstrings and make us laugh at the same time! To me, that's amazing storytelling. Maybe not as nuanced as The Godfather, Saving Private Ryan, or To Kill a Mockingbird, but still impressive and deserving of every praise they get. Also, doesn't PewDiePie do Let's Plays? Video games are CGI.
what the fudge? New York was CGI in Avengers??? I didn't even notice... I too thought they added destruction over real footage. Like dang. I'm twice as impressed now. And yeah, there's a lot to be impressed with in a marvel movie... and if CGI ain't your thing--and I get how watching some CGI battles like Hulk VS. Abomination or Iron Man vs. War Machine can be a bit boring, no matter how impressive... but there are still tons of live stunts and chereo. So you don't like the motion capture of the hulk or the mystic arts of Doctor Strange? Fine, there's still Steve, Bucky, Nat, the cast of Black Panther.
ohifonlyx33 for the New York thing, I didn’t even realize until I watched his video that it was cgi, and that just instantly disproved that point for me, though it is still personal preference
@@calebhodgson9945 The whole shot of Iron Man flying around, Hulk jumping around and other are fully CGI, hell they even recreate the whole Manhattan just to animate the battle.
I’ve lived in New York City my whole life...and didn’t realize they had CGI’d the city. Hell, I’ve been in or near most of the buildings they faked and just assumed they flew in and filmed them.
My biggest problem was Pewdiepie's description of the plot of Marvel movies, because it's the same with most movies, shows, books, plays, etc. Mostly every story follows some form the "Hero's Journey" plot map because it works and that's what people want to see. They follow the same basic steps: 1. Call to Adventure 2. Acceptance of call (most of the time after an initial refusal of the call) 3. Meeting the mentor 4. Crossing the threshold 5. Rising Action 6. Defeat, Death and Rebirth (can be literal or figurative death and rebirth) 7. Atonement 8. Journey Home. Examples of other non-Marvel movies/stories/authors that follow this: Star Wars, Lord of the Rings/Hobbit, Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, The Wizard of Oz, Chronicles of Narnia, Moby Dick, Jane Eyre, Charles Dickins, Mark Twain, Stephen King etc. It's a long tangent, I know, but it just doesn't make sense to call out one studio or genre for using the same basic plot map that appears in most (if not all) of the popular stories told around the world.
Molly Brueske Captain America and Iron Man are basically the same story. Both have foreign scientist that give them their abilities. Both fight an evil villain with the same abilities.
@@anti1training I guess I'm not sure what you mean that a foreign scientist gave Tony Stark his ability. Iron Man doesn't have any abilities, he has a suit that he built (he certainly had help building that first suit but that scientist - or doctor in the movie - didn't give him the suit, or the design or the mind to build it). Afterwards Stark built the sleeker design that he keeps improving without the help of any foreign scientist. If you're talking about the arc reactor in his chest then that's not an ability that's just saving Stark's life. Even then the doctor (in the mcu) hooked him up to a car battery and the Stark converted what the doctor did into the arc reactor. I'm only going off of the mcu because that's what I know and that's what Pewdiepie was discussing. I'm not saying that there are absolutely no similarities, what I'm saying is that it would make more sense if Pewdiepie criticized all storytellers for using the same basic plot map - not just Marvel.
MCU has always dealt with Arms races, War, genocide, espionage,political thrillers,fantasy adventures,Artificial Intelligence,hilarious comedies including heartfelt tragedies,pure action blockbusters,Space sci-fy,phycological character studies, murders,deaths,extreme tortures,brutal actions,government rule, weapons dealing,demons,different tones,different genres, these are core aspects and themes of Marvel movies too.
Anti 1 Workout/Nutritional Researcher/free Trainer Captain America was given his because he passed the scientist's test, test of selflessness, I mean he was willing to die for everyone's sake, rather than staying away from the grenade, he used his body to cover it, and told everyone to take cover. Imagine having a super powered asshole.
It's so embarrassing that Pewdiepie completely fails on all levels to make the distinction between idolizing superheroes' *powers* and *how they use those powers.* Nobody idolizes Captain America because they want to be able to throw a motorcycle, they idolize him because of his humility and character.
No. It's because we wanna be able to throw a fucking a shield across walls and somehow get it back with some kind of futuristic technology thingy and still fight like a pro
You'd be suprised at what practical effects could do. Just look up Studioadi. They had some great effects for The Thing prequel, Sea of Monsters, and an amazing Green Goblin mask from Raimi's fist Spidey film that got replaced with the power ranger. Just depends on preference.
Oryonn but CGI looks fake, practical effects do not. You mean to tell me thanos face doesn’t look like a fricking videogame? It completely kills the immersion
@@Cuasimodo2372 yes thanos face doesn't look like a videogame at all..... The CGI was incredible and you could even see his facial expressions while talking.
"Naruto worked hard for his powers" Yes Naruto worked hard to be born with a god like entity in him. Naruto worked hard to be the reincarnation of another god like entity.
Oh yeah I forgot he was born hokage level I forgot how no one loved him for years I forgot how the whole village hated him I forgot how much he trained to be on par with his fellow student god they shouldn’t made the show like that instead of him being born a god and being loved from the start
@ako riko I really don't see your point here. And also, those 2 weren't "kinda wrong." They're actually right in a sense. Stop twisting it up. You obviously tried to make yourself sound right by fitting in your own narrative.
StarDust Sebby you really think Naruto would’ve gotten where he is without the Kyuubi, without the chakra boost he gets from his lineage, without being given six paths sage mode?
@@austinbailey4605 I think you guys just aren't looking into Pewdiepie argument deep enough, the reason he emphasizes naruto is because the whole narrative of the anime is focused on showing him slowly getting stronger through his hardwork and guts, it's WAAY easier to take a moral lesson from it than from someone who suddenly something magical happens to him, and he suddenly has an immense powerup and usually never focus on an objective at all, instead of responding to immediate threats...
I think he never mentioned it in that way. He ment it in the way where they do things that can be done in real life but they choose to do it with cg. Making it real gives it a feeling of reality.
Yep and the thing is if you only see things like that then everything is so simple and nothing in interesting. Paiting is just about putting colors on a white thing Building a fucking building is just about is just about putting bricks on bricks on bricks until it makes a fucking building A world tour isn't interesting because you basically do a trip from a place to the same place That's how dumb it is
fight club. bad guy wins at the end. saw franchise. jigsaw always outsmart the victims. rom-com movies. no bad guy or good guy. so not basically every movie
@@farlonmuentes6004 In Avengers: Infinity War and Captain America: Civil War the good guys also don't win. So the Pewds formula doesn't apply to all MCU movies either
*PewDiePie:* Complains about superhero movies being formulated *Also PewDiePie:* _makes 20 meme reviews in which he basically 1) Sees a meme 2) Says what he thinks about it 3) Repeat_
@@xshxr He doesn't have to love Marvel, and that's his opinion, I understand that. You don't need justification to not like something. But if you're gonna make a video saying why you don't like something, then use good arguments instead of what you used. See 3kiksphilips' video for example. He made the same video but with better reasons, so I don't think he is wrong.
JCtallo it’s a movie about superheroes. It’s not meant to be realistic. In their world you can train to be at that level. May and Ward are examples of humans almost being at that level.
@@thefearshark Sorry but, are you actually trying to say the formula is good? I'm confused about how you think the heroes winning in a film after a film where they lost is a negative
@@thefearshark Ok, but that's not the point I made. I was just saying that Endgame having the heroes win doesn't make pewdiepies hyper-reductive formula good, since you seemed to be defending it
@@thetrollingclownfish9739 But if you take the superheroes and superpowers from that formula, it could apply to basically any movie. In most movies the good protagonist wins and the character that acts as antagonist loses. Whatever that may be. It applies to action films, to thrillers, to fucking romantic movies. The genre where it least applies is horror, with the "villain coming back at the last second for a last kill" trope.
@@satireknight I mean... I can see where Thanos is coming from, and I can see why people believe he didn't do anything wrong... but I do think Thanos is a mad man. He's a man that saw a problem, decided on a solution and never cared to find any other solution even when the thing he needed for his solution gave him better solutions. Thanos is evil, don't get me wrong, but he's what I would call a "misguided villain". One who is attempting to do good, but doing so through evil means, or has had that twisted into something evil, or something along those lines. What he's attempting to do, stop overpopulation from causing suffering, is a completely good thing to do. His way of doing it? Murdering half the universe... that's not a good way to do the thing... at all. So, I do see where he's coming from, and he's not 100% wrong on everything, just the "murder half the universe" thing.
@@thegercast4794 Some villains have good points, though. There's been plenty of villains I've agreed with, at least on SOME topics. Sure, those same villains are (mostly) horrible people and don't deserve idolization. But there is a logical through line in their thinking and people can get behind that. It's possible people idolize not the villain/antagonist themselves, but the views of the villain they can agree with (not necessarily all of them). At least that's how I see it.
@@guikoi3101 Yeah I see where you're coming from. Thats called creating sympathy and/or empathy for the villain. You can understand and perhaps even partially agree with the motivations of a character (Thanos wants to make the universe a better place...) without agreeing with their methods for achieving said goal (...by wiping out half the universe). Hell, in Black Panther they apply this to the hero himself. Panther himself comes to agree with Killmonger than because Wakanda CAN help people, they SHOULD. That doesn't make Killmonger any less a villain though, because of the way he plans to go about it.
@@rogue9230 that's because MrBeast puts actual effort into his videos plus he makes people happy, while all Pewdiepie does is sit on a chair and react to videos. I'm sure that Pewds is a nice person, but his content is lackluster
18:35 it’s obvious that the people who were snapped out of existence are coming back, but it’s more entertaining if you look at it from the characters’ perspective, rather than as an audience member. For example, (SPOILERS) when Spider-Man fades away, we know he’s gonna return because they’re filming his sequel, but Tony doesn’t know that. All Tony knows is that he failed, and half the universe is dying because of him! That makes it a bit better to watch thinking about it this way
Iron Creeper Gaming yeah. People like Felix have such a cynical and uncreative outlook on it like “oh they’re not actually dead so it’s boring and bad storytelling” no, having stakes doesn’t necessarily mean that have to die for ever, high stakes could mean serious character development has occurred like it has in infinity war. People with Felix’s opinion on this are just trying to make themselves dislike it
Yeah as MovieBob says, EVERYTHING that happens to characters in any story can be undone at the whim of the writers, that's fiction. Sure temporarily killing people off is a tiresome trope in the comic books, but not in comic book movies, that was novel to see they actually did it. They did a great job of selling it, of making us think right up to the last second it might not actually happen or not in this movie, and we can guess from who was left alive and the fact this is the swan song for the OG Avengers, that they won't all survive whatever it takes to bring everyone else back. It's also the height of trying to look smart without actually thinking things through to be like "Hurr Durr they obviously aren't killing off Black Panther and SpiderMan!" Really? You were on board with thinking that KILLING HALF THE UNIVERSE would be the new status quo until a few specific characters died? Really? You thought the next 10 years of MCU movies would be a post-apocalyptic hellscape, people trying to process the insanity of what happened and find a reason to carry on living, and the galactic neighborhood around Earth being invaded on a daily basis by hyper-advanced civilizations that traced the source of the event here and are hell-bent on revenge?
Yeah, he screwed up but I'll be honest I would have done the same. I mean dude lost his mom, had to kill his bio dad, lost his real dad, lost his girlfriend who he loved, couldn't keep his promise, only to find out Thanos killed her and failed again. Dude, I would be surprised if he didn't do anything. I mean that situation I mean yeah he screwed up BIG time but understand it's a human emotion and sometimes you can't destroy it.
+Iron Creeper Gaming, Omg, thank you! I'm so tired of everyone and their mother telling me how they yawned in the theatre while the characters were Voldemorting away because of how crazy smart they are in realizing they'll return. I was stunned to the core because I saw the survivors and felt their confusion, terror and desperation! This is a situation that was built up to over 30+ hours of screen time, storytelling and character development, and the mere helplessness all these superpowered characters had to feel at that moment (each one in their own unique way!) is a deep and complicated experience bleeding out of the screen. Why not quiet your ego for 20 seconds and give yourself up to it? Does it require too much imagination for you to handle or something?
Why does he like the dark knight? a truck tipping over round after an explosion in the back, hmm sounds legit. An orphan billionaire with unlimited money and resources to moonlight as a caped crusader, hmm sounds legit. A crime city cut off from the rest of the country, hmm seems legit.
+MemoriesLP your criticism sounds hollow. He doesn't like Shonen manga (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) which is similar to Marvel movies but anime/manga is more than that (Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Monster, Shamo, Death Note, Paranoia Agent,...)
@@XellDincht Still, the vast majority of anime/manga relies on fantasy or science fiction to some extent. The only exceptions to this are usually slice of life anime, which more often than not are really boring
@@dominickperez2952 Anime is a medium, you will find all kind of genre. Marvel movies are pretty popular right now. It would be stupid if i would say just because of superhero movies make a lot of cash there is nothing but superhero movies
@@XellDincht There are all kinds of genres in anime, but most follow similiarish formula's within those genre's influenced by the culture which is heavily invested into these kinds of things. Not that it matters though, since a large chunk of the animation industry focuses on fantasy/sci-fi. The point the OP made was that Pewdiepie's point that "You won't get super powers" is in it of itself shallow because anime more often than anime, a medium he enjoys, is heavily based on completely unrealistic and impossible concepts
The biggest hypocritical point Felix made was *"Marvel's Cultist Fandom";* Bruh...has he seen any Anime (which he constantly compared it to) Fandom....ever!? 😅😅😅
"It's always good guy wants peace and bad guy wants destruction. They're all the same." That's like describing comedy movies as "funny stuff happens." With vagueness like that, no shit, but that ignores what makes the movies different. It's the characters, story points, pacing, direction, writing, and all kinds of other shit. Doctor Strange and Captain America: The First Avenger for example aren't even close to the same movie outside of that "good guy wants peace, bad guy want destruction" bullshit. Also what about the Guardians of the Galaxy? They don't really fall under "good guy wants peace." They're only the good guys for selfish reasons unless you count Groot. Sure they do become less selfish at the end of the movie but for the most part they were in it for themselves. Special effects have been around for as long as movies have been made. The truck flip in The Dark Knight, which by the way is "good guy wants peace, bad guy wants destruction", is a special effect. Special effects isn't the problem, it's their result. Let's look at Thanos for example. He looks amazing and he's entirely CGI. Yeah, if it looks like shit it's kind of a problem but if it looks good then how's it a problem. I agree that CGI should only be used when practical effects are impossible for what you're trying to achieve but sometimes CGI is necessary. Could you imagine how shitty Iron Man would look if done with only practical effects? Every fandom has "cultists" and Marvel is one of the biggest fandoms there is so no shit people were fucking excited for the next Marvel movie. I know this happened 10 months after his video, but that New Zealand mosque shooter said "Subscribe to PewDiePie" before shooting the mosque up so PewDiePie clearly has actual cultists fans, it's fucking ironic. So having people to look up to fictional characters leaves a negative impact? Who the fuck idolizes superheroes for their powers anyway? Maybe a small child, but other than that I can't think of anyone. I don't idolize Captain America because he's super strong and has a cool shield, I idolize him because he's courageous. What does Michelle Obama, or anyone for that matter, have to do with fucking anything? Yeah, a bunch of black people got excited for Black Panther because they were getting a black superhero movie. What's your point, PewD's? That's like arguing that Last Jedi is bad and instead of going after the writing, direction, plot holes, and other shit that actually matters in a fucking movie, you use comments by SJWs calling you sexist for not liking the movie. That has nothing to do with fucking anything.
Many Maria111 so your saying captain america winter soldier a political thriller were the villians theme is made up of his screams after falling to his death is the same movie as thor ragnarok where jeff goldbloom calls thor sparkly fingers
Many Maria111 Did you seriously just complain that the protagonist winning in the end makes them all the same? Have you ever watched a movie? Or read a book? Or engaged with any media ever? Nearly all media ends with the protagonist winning.
Many Maria111 dude, he asked in the video “can there be a superhero film that questions whats right and whats wrong” when Civil War literally does that the whole film. He even misinterpreted the dark knight quote he used as an example of a film that does with “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian” when that is simply foreshadowing Harvey’s change into Two-Face. He’s wrong.
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On the race thing... I'm black, and when i was growing up, I always felt left out because I didn't know there were people I could dress up as. All the superheroes that were marketed the most were usually white guys. Then I found out about green lantern, Cyborg, Static shock, and others, but they by far weren't the most popular heroes. The reason black panther is cool is because now, kids growing up have a black hero, (scratch that, a CAST of black heroes) they can have and look up to who are super popular. "I don't have to look as hard as my dad did for characters who look like me." And I think that's fucking cool.
You are all missing my point. It doesn't matter if it's a fictional character, if you don't look like the person you're dressing aas it will always feel, to a degree, disingenuous. Also, Blue Beetle, Bane, So Diablo, El Dorado, Firebrand, Iman, Agony, Armadillo, Cheetah, Darwin, and many others are Latino. And there were alot of black superheroes, but my point is, there weren't that many minority superheroes that were well known enough for anyone to know who I was when I dressed up as them. Yes, I'm aware that anyone "can" dress up as a fictional character, but if there's a black Thor, or a white Black panther, Immediately, you don't associate them with the character, you associate them with a racially incorrect VERSION of the character. All I'm saying is, having racially diverse superheroes is a good thing. One, because there are a million of them in the comics, and they're all cool characters, so why shouldn't they get theatrical releases? And Two, because its a lot more believable to see black Latino Asian etc superheroes, than "Oh hey people have superpowers but they're mostly just white guys".
Dai kon great point. I gotta say though, Static was an absolute boss when I watched his show in the early 2000’s (coming from a white guy). I’d love to see a live action Static if DC could pull their shit together.
I get your point completely. When ï was growing up, I felt a type of diconnect while dressing up as characters that i liked but didnt resemble and I loved, LOVED the hype for black panther, especially because I live in England and society here goes out of its way to not cause a scene (except during the world cup, still emotional about it, don't @ me) and I didn't expect the hype to affect us across the pond but I was wrong. I dunno. I'm rambling, ignore me. Forget I said anything.
@Nova the problems is not too many movies the problem is that those too many movis are getting repetitive (mainly phase 3), the 2 spiderman films, ragnarok, black panther, ant man 2 and captain marvel feels and looks they could be directed by the same person, they have no style.
@@PrimeTime_Pictures yeah...and? i was talking about the majority of phase 3. Cap2 and Guardians is phase 2 when Mcu still care about making some good movie, instead of treating movies like check lists and future sets ups and the lack of syle and looks the same (except Gurdians2 and DocStrange
So flipping a truck is more impressive than: digitally creating an entire city so well that most people didn't realize it was digital, Bucky swiping that motorcycle in Civil War (which was 100% practical), the INCREDIBLY realistic costumes and armors of the characters, the endless numbers of action stunts done by the cast, and the passionately detailed bits of the totally CGI characters. Sure. . . .
I never knew that city was fake. I thought was a real city with cgi damage like this guy says. Holy shit that’s awesome. I like PewDiePie, but, MAN is he wrong on this one.
@@nonamepen4326 The spider-man suit imo isn't the worst but yeah...the black panther final battle was terrifying...but new spiderman the trippy scene with mysterio was incredible.
Pewdiepie: at least Naruto worked hard for his powers 😌 Naruto: * literally a descendant of ancient all powerful beings and f born from two of powerful and successful families *
I don’t agree with pewds but having the nine tails messed up his chacra control so he had to work harder to get stronger until the seal was removed. though I don’t like neji’s fight with naruto cause if naruto won without the nine tails it would have been him proving birth right doesn’t matter. But he just won with nine tails chacra that is the exception that I agree with you
@@raphaelbrown6314 naruto vs neji is honestly one of the worst fights. You're telling me, Naruto gets the stuffing beaten out of him for 99% of the fights, has all his attacks reflected back at him, and has all his charkra points closed down and he wins with one punch to the jaw? Its very cheap.
and its weird, i love scott pilgrim vs the world, itsmy favorite movie, doesnt mean im gonna scream if i see michael cera on the street, hes a person, not a fucking million goldbars
that depend on each individual , did you see star treck fanbase? korean - nippo idols fans? nazi fans? fucking american presidents fans? sports fan? religions fan? did you see Wagons with towerlike structure of 4 meter trasporting a girl dress like a madonna waving to the mass of ppl screaming and crying? did you see the pope dress like a fucking tend being adolized ? are you telling me that you didn't live in this world in the last 10'000 years?
El Bandito except Tom Hiddleston wasn’t on the street. He was literally at an event where people are MEANT to cheer. Demonizing people for that is silly.
Lmao isn't civil war and the entire discourse of the break up of avengers caused by an argument on whether their actions right or wrong, or just tony's arc
@@panduino2156 he probably watched iron man, Captain America and Thor, where his formula does apply (although a little less in Thor since Loki is less motivated by "chaos" as he is by wanting to impress his dad), and assumed that "hey, a few of these origin stories have similar-is trends, the other 20 or so must be exactly the same."
14:22 A Superhero movies that tackles what really is good and what is evil? Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War. Between the government and One’s own sense of justice. The fact that Shield a force of good was infiltrated by Hydra or how the Avengers heroic actions caused a lot of lives even made villains. The whole thing with Bucky struggling between the evil hes done when he was brainwashed. Black Panther as well in fact learning from the villain and rejecting the old ways of his ancestors which he thought to be good. In fact no other superhero movie is comparable. Also to an earlier point Doctor Strange and Iron Man worked hard for their powers plus the Guardians, Black Widow and Hawkeye are mostly just well trained fighters exception on Guardians Mantis and Groot. Pewdipie has maybe watch some of the movies once or twice with mostly disinterest not catching on to themes. He acts like its “controversial” to hate on Marvel when its actually pretty common. People are gonna react if you say you dont like or hate something they love it’s natural.
Even Infinity war tackles that point when looking at Thanos' motives. Sometimes you need to cull a portion of a population in order to maintain life within an ecosystem. It is "evil", but also mercy from a certain point of view.
I do feel the need to point out that this really isn't my best work, while I don't think PewDiePie made good points in his video, I do like the dude and in retrospect vilify him way too much with some fairly weak arguments in this video. While some of my points from this video hold water some just really don't.
Jay Exci He makes awful points, awful content, and he complains about marvels fanbase when his own is the worst on the internet by far.
Dude you did great
Stand by your points man. PewDiePie's arguments are vague and were easily deconstructed by you in this video. Your arguments didn't need to be top-of-the-line to achieve this.
One thing I have to say is, I didn't care when Loki died. Because he'd already died twice and came back fine.
So I honestly thought he'd do the same after infinity war, considering the way he died was honestly insulting to his character. I mean, he's the god of mischief for crying out loud, he wouldn't just go up to the guy who just beat the goddamn Hulk into the ground with nothing but a knife.
He'd play it smart, fake his death, and come back to wreck Thanos' shit when he had the chance. But, nope. He just died in the stupidest way possible.
@@izukumidoriyaisssss3049 But he'll come back. That was implied in Endgame when he escapes.
I'm tired of the overrated argument. Being overrated is not a critique of the movie, it's a critique of people's reaction.
Unfortunately a lot of people focus more on fandoms and act like they can't enjoy a piece of art itself for example I've heard people say they don't like Undertale because they don't want to associate with weabos(please excuse my spelling if there is officially a correct way to spell a word that isn't in the dictionary).
@@petelee2477 yeah the problem is that they infest it all. When you're trying to enjoy a piece of media, it's quite hard to when it's full of terrible people.
They are corny and uninteresting
Also literally anything is either overrated or underrated: the public community tends to exaggerate everything. If something is initially viewed as bad (even if it isn't), it will be repeated so often that the opinion will avalanche into it being atrocious. If something is initially viewed as good, it will eventually be worshipped as a divine entity. The exaggeration only dies down and usually turns mildly positive either way after a relative while when something new that applies to the same concept takes over, like the Star Wars Prequels thanks to the Sequels.
@@Roescoe or just ignore the community
"iron Man... Iron Man again.... Iron Man AGAIN"
Oh no, not a trilogy, they're the WORST
It’s not that they are a trilogy. That’s fine. It’s the fact that it’s very repetitive
@@axerrri geez
@HottingLance I know! They ruined Star Wars!
(sarcasm)
@@axerrri Lasagna
@@porkcjop4167 how is it repetitive? Themes between marvel trilogies tend to stay the same but that's the point. No marvel soo trilogy has the same themes or nature as another tho
Him using “idolize” as synonymous with “liking a character” is kind of bizarre - who exactly is going around idolizing Lightning McQueen?
Hehe... yeah... that would be *WEEEEIRD* ... mmhmm
KACHOWWW
wrathanet Well the fact Idolize means to love som thing somewhat excessively... A bit far?
All hail McQueen.
Everyone
Pewdiepie: complains about how generic Marvel movies are
Also Pewdiepie: Today I’m reading Reddit, tomorrow I’m reading reddit, Imma just read Reddit for a week or two
Edit: Would someone please tell me why this video, and this comment are suddenly blowing up. I'm legitimately confused.
How about a year or two
@@Hellothere_453 how about nearly half my content being scrolling Reddit and chuckling.
But there are too many movies and they all feel the same
@@unclemyles7475 they do not “all” feel the same. Winter soldier, ant man, and doctor strange and others are a huge contrast to other movies
@@orangemonks894 well I don’t mean all I just mean most there are some I love like ragnorok infinity war endgame and civil war but most feel the same. It is impressive how they tied them all together but the fact they are still making more scares me
“Bad guy wants destruction”
Vulture wanted to make a quick buck by selling laser guns. That isn’t destruction. It’s called a felony
You can say that about anime also
vulture is pretty much Walter White from Breaking Bad tbh, he's selling *illegal substance number 6* so that his family doesn't end up going bankrupt because of something unfortunate that made it so he was lacking in money.
i accept the reason of vulture why he went that way. he was a good citizen but because of giant corporations, they are losing their jobs. he was a good example of how to make a good villain. there should be a reason behind rather than bad because he is. like syndrome in incredibles. thanos snapped his fingers, wipe half of the universe to bring balance? when there are so many ways of doing it
@@farlonmuentes6004 He killed half of the popularity because he's delusional and narcissistic. He thinks that since his planet died he needs to stop it from happening in the universe
Also, he wanted to keep making enough money to ensure his family's financial security and a comfortable lifestyle so very literally the last thing he ever wanted was any kind of disruption that would draw attention to him. He just wanted to continue with his business. And now that he's behind bars, it's not like the world is saved, it's more like a couple criminals won't have an alien weapon supply. Which is a very good thing. But why did he do what he did?
For the destruction of the world?
No, for his daughter's future college education and to pay mortgages.
Imagine going to comic con and Marvel announcing their biggest movies ever and Pewdiepie expects the hundreds of people to be quiet
lmao
Shhhhhhhhh
They're just people!
Imagine fanboys not centering their lives around when the next Marvel movie comes out
🤣🤣🤣
Pyromaniac 05 because getting hyped= centering life.
Endgame Spoilers:
Pewdiepie: It's not like they're gonna stop making Iron Man movies
Marvel: Observe
Lol
They stopped making Iron Man movies in 2013.
yeah, and her daughter is the new iron man, you knew that?
Blaze I would like this but I want to keep it at 369
@@user-wr5yx8tk3r I'm ok with that lol
I hate breathing.
Too many people breathe, and they're just so passionate about it. It borders on creepy just how excited people get about breathing.
Not to mention that breathing is just so formulaic. You expand and contract your lungs, there just isn't anything to it at all. I'm just tired of doing the same thing over and over again.
And think about all of the people who do horrible things, like murder and terrorism. THEY BREATHE! It's damaging! I guarantee that if all of us just stopped breathing, there wouldn't be any crimes anymore. No one will get bullied or kidnapped or robbed if no one breathed.
What about all of those people that have trouble breathing? Asthmatics shouldn't have to look at other people and be jealous that they can breathe better.
Oh, and don't even get me started on the reasons people breathe. They do it, to LIVE. I know right? How selfish is it that people breathe for its actual purpose? Can't we all just do it for other reasons?
wtf? people like breathing? they can't just like it, breathing is horrible!
This comment is beautiful. That's all.
Lol love this comment so much ima leave it at 69 likes.
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oh yeah yes ohhhhhh.... breathing it's so gooo0000oooood aw yeah haaahuuuuhaaaahuuu the air entering and exiting my lung when the air pressure of my lung change due to my diaphragm contracting it's so great!!!!!
7:50 - "you screaming at a guy dressed in a suit". Yeah... cause people don't react the same way when they see a youtuber on stage. Fans are fans. They scream...
My exact thought as well
Excactly!
And at least they're applauding to an actor, an artist who plays a role and (with Loki) very well played. In every conference, with or without costumes, the people applause when an actor, director, writer, producer, that they respect comes to the scenario. The people wants a photo with him, only because he makes stupid jokes in front of a camera, so, Why the people can't love the work of an Actor?... This is hypocritical.
He makes it sound like the suit is the reason they are screaming. Like if I was one on that stage, waring that suit, they would still scream just as loud.
...you know what maybe he’s right! I must try that some time.
@@elgenialbap No it's not hypocritical because in another video he says "I don't like going to conventions like vidcon because people start screaming when they see me, like why are you screaming I'm just a youtuber"
>comic book story
>too unrealistic
You don't go to a pool if you don't want to get wet, and you shouldn't watch a Marvel movie if you have a problem with unrealistic things.
Yup. Cause anime is so realistic in his eyes. What a goddamn hypocrite he is. Complaining comic book movies as unrealistic while praising anime
Where will you draw the line though? If I said I'm not watching entertainment fiction for being unrealistic, I'd have to start watching documentaries. Watching a fictional story requires at least to a degree suspension of your disbelief.
@Ida Preston People appreciate heroes like Cpt A because of the movies promoting selfless actions, telling you that if you can help a large number of people at the cost of inconveniencing yourself (in this case, sacrificing) you should do it. You see a grenade on the floor and yours, as well as everyone elses first instinct is to run away, but Cap dives on the grenade to stop the blast from killing anyone else/ Would you sacrifice yourself in order to save 5 other people? Not to mention the acting of Chris in that scene, from his expression you really get the feeling that he's less than a second away from being blown to pieces, I can onlly imagine the tension in his mind while he's waiting for that explosion.
I'm really tired of people crapping on CGI. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH HARD WORK GOES INTO THAT? You're watching an almost photo-realistic scene almost completely made on a computer, and it's not impressive?!
By the way, Marvel *does* have many impressive practical effects, too. Just google how they made Cap, Bucky and T'Challa run faster than speeding cars in Civil War.
Because their characters can actually run faster than a freaking car!!!! That weren't unimpressive impractical effects!
Impressiv isnt the same word as good or like it.
I can find something impressiv, but still dont like it.
I find it really impressiv how rock music is made, i still dont like it.
Even if i find CGI impressiv, that doesnt mean that i have to like it.
Also it is incredibly impressive how they seamlessly blended Chris Evan's face onto a skinny actor in the First Avenger, which is just amazing
@@PigeonOfTheAbyss what a fucking nonsense
There are just a whole lot of examples, where the impressiveness of CGI makes a movie look less realistic. Not all CGI is bad. By no means. But sometimes it just doesn't fit the scenes or come off as a cheap way to hide illogical decisions. A good example are the Hobbit movies: The CGI was impressive, but made the orc soldiers look so well equipped and cool that it broke the immersion. We got a great looking CGI fight, that made no sense in the world's logic. CGI often leads to the decision to make something look cooler than it should look like and therefore realistically unrealistic. The battle scenes of most Avenger's movies are very impressive, but at the same time so shallow and dragged out. Way too much hitting CGI drones and bantering imho. Large scale battles but not much strategical movement shown. I don't need to see superheroes beating the crap out of things/people, that stand no chance against them, for a long period of time. I can see why it is entertaining. It is as entertaining as a good hack'n'slash game. I couldn't care less about those impressive CGI scenery and enemies, when there is not much more meaning to them than looking cool or impressive, though. For me such scenes are beyond boring. I almost slept throughout Age of Ultron. Sometimes I would wish for a more minimalistic approach including CGI. Don't use it to flex muscles. Use it, when it is needed to effectively tell a story.
Pewdiepie: dO yOu ThInK tHeY aRe JuSt gOnNa StOp MaKiNg IrOn MaN mOvIeS??
Marvel: yes
Iron Heart is coming tho it's a series but yehh still
Spider-Man iron boy jr movies: NoOoO
Marvel phase 4: No
I mean, the thing that sold the Iron Man movies was Robert Downy Jr. He's gone, so even if they do make more "Iron Man" movies, Iron Man himself is gone, so the point is still moot.
@@valoon_jain but that's not iron man so their point still stands
The worst part about his vague formula for all superhero movies is he literally describes the hero’s journey which is not limited to “Marvel movies”
PewDiePie says we need more diversity
Sony: Hold my beer...
*Creates Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse consisting of two Spider-Women, a 1940’s version, a African-Hispanic teenage Spider-Man, a deadbeat, overweight and old Spider-Man and a frickin’ Spider-Pig.*
lol
PewDiePie: ... Marvel's still bad
he probably thinks that's "forced diversity" and "woke (derogatory)"
Pewdiepie complaining about Black Panther being the “first” black superhero in the MCU while forgetting War Machine whos been in the MCU since IRON MAN 1
big oof there
And nick fury
did they get a movie?
he forgot to mention blade 😂
I think he meant main character
Just like Spider-Man, who gets his powers basically for free but then loses his uncle because he refused to use them for the good of the people, the consequences of which caused him to become a hero of the people
That's why he is different yes he didn't earn them but he struggles with them and feels like he has an obligation to be spider man and help he loses friendships people he cares about and when he diches people they see him as a douchebag, plus in some media he even saids he wish he didn't get his powers, peter parker is a smart kid he could have been the next tony stark and live the dream but he puts that aside to be spider man honestly thats pretty good storytelling
Some people are completely oblivious to the concept of earning one's powers AFTER they've been acquired
12:05
Just like Bucky who got his powers and skills for free by being tortured and brainwashed by Nazis- nope
Just like Rocket who got his skills for free by being taken apart and put back together and engineered to be a- nope
Just like Scarlet Witch who got her powers for free by volunteering to fight for her country but unknowingly being almost killed and kept in a cell by Hydra- nope
Just like Black Widow who got her skills by being trained day in and day out no matter what for most of her life and then getting sterilized so she couldn't feel guilty about what she does- nope
Um...
Just like... Quicksilver who got his powers by unknowingly volunteering to fight for Hydra with his sister.. and then dying... _NOPE_
the point is it's basically the same shit and everything is so predictable
super hero movies are fun at best and are created to keep dumb people entertained
Marvel movies are just stories for kids and the fact that people admire and idolize people that are not real is stupid
@@charleshastings9452 So the only movies you watch are documentaries? 🤔
Oh shut up marvel movies aren't always made for kids have you seen logen and deadpool boi and Also some of these people are not stupid they know these characters are not real they just liked the characters and people who played them in the movie and you're the one who is stupid believe this crap and one more thing don't say superhero movies are fun at best as a fact is a opinion which is yours by the way =/
And Also my guy the movies are not all the same they different storys and vilains with different goals even if they are same they add some new stuff to keep it interesting sooooo yeah =/
@@charleshastings9452 I feel like thats exactly what a genre is...a collection of events or actions in a typical version of a film, aka film troupes or the like, you dont want a horror movie and complain that the killer kills someone do you? you enjoy the movie for how it makes you feel, how they stop said killer, ect. I watch highly CGI action superhero movies, because i like being put into a world that doesnt exist to experience a fantasy, just like someone would watch a horror film to be scared and the like. If you dont like superhero movies, okay, but not liking superhero genre because its a genre is fucking dumb. Its the same with all types of media, you dont listen to country music and complain that they are all basically the same, because you actively avoid the differences.
"No one is actually trying to be iron man"
*cringe inducing flashbacks to middle school me trying to read physics and machine text books to learn how to build iron man*
That's a positive influence though! Getting kids more interested in science. I did not get his arguments that spuerhero movies are bad influences at all.
I love your profile pic.
well that's just stupid. what, there goal is to be a flying man in a suit so you can feel like a superhero? so redeeming and totally worth the time and resources of humans on this declining earth.
@@valkookie it's because there is no such thing as the superhero archetype they present in those movies. in life you dont just get handed powers that automatically make you a hero. a real "hero" is someone that struggles for good BCUZ it is hard-thats what's heroic about it. these "powers" dont actually represent anything redeeming to inspire people to attain- flying, fire balls, slinging web... what is meaningful about that besides it just being subjectively useful (not necessarily good)? things like empathy, perseverance, faith in oneself, etc are actually real strengths.
polesmoker "these powers don’t represent anything redeeming to inspire"
Buddy, have you ever heard of myths and tales? Stories that inspired billions of people even before modern media such as even books? Just look at the adventures of ancient deities and heroes like Hercules or even Jesus, they’re way more absurd than a guy being the best engineer in the world. If you reduce any story that drastically, a soldier is nothing more than a gun either.
Pewdiepie: Says people overreacted to “a guy in a suit.”
Also Pewdiepie: could get the same reaction while wearing a T-shirt and jeans
Mayar Emrezeeq Well still. People ‘overreact’ to seeing him. That’s the thing, it’s not about how he just ‘doesn’t like it’ when people react to him, it’s about how he’ll still get the same reaction because he’s famous, regardless of what clothing he’s wearing.
Dr. Oofers. Yea and that’s why he moved to japan
@@mayarm6924 marvel can't move to Japan
@@Dr.Oofers but that means he's acknowledging that possibility
Mayar Emrezeeq god you’re so unintelligent, it hurts.
"Do you think they're just going to stop making iron man movies?" well... that aged poorly
@WWE 4 life so it wasn't true when he said it, either?
@WWE 4 life he meant that in the future it will be remake again we seen that happen for 100 fcking years
war machine show and iron lad or whatever the fck that new iron man person is coming out
@@BenAri18 right, but none of those are _iron man_ media, yeah?
Pewdiepie directly contradicts himself when, in the SAME VIDEO, he says both of these things:
"Why do people look up to superheroes? Super powers are unachievable and therefore superheros aren't good role models."
"Why does skin color matter? Superficial shared characteristics like that aren't important. Just because lightning McQueen is a car doesn't mean I can't look up to his character."
*DOES HE HEAR HIMSELF?*
HaHa Yea I noticed that too. No self-awareness whatsoever.
P.S. More people need to see this comment.
No he doesn't lol
LawofCinema He dislikes the movies but never formed a coherent reason why so in the video he just talked without regard for consistency, that's what I think anyway.
I’d say it’s because he thinks of things on the spot, spits them out, then never thinks about them again. It works for humor and gameplay vids but it makes for weak opinions and arguments.
but people idolize superheroes because of what they stand for, going above and beyond to do the right thing, most of the time risking their own safety to protect others
something that most of us wouldn't do . "with great power comes great responsibility" and all that
not just the superpowers, spider-man is more than just super strength, spidey sense and web slinging.
unless your a kid, then it's just because they look cool
"The fanbase is too weird."
Dude, you're literally pewdipie
All his points about why Marvel is bad apply to him in some way... 👀
Yeah right? I mean you are Pewds the *PEWDS* your fandom literally became racists. So weird seeing him talk about "Weird Fandom's" lol.
Mixer Joy I am a Boy. Oh fun let’s call this one Fandomism
@@blandsalsa8796 Who says that his whole fanbase became racists ? Observe more before saying something
@@navneetrajesh4950 Um.. his fandom literally started bullying Indians I don't know what you are talking about- (and no I'm not talking about the whole fandom but a big part of it)
I don't get why Pewdiepie says: THOR AGAIN!
Like.... what's wrong with a trilogy?
Notice that he uses a sequel (Batman Dark Knight) as a good movie example... And don't bother to say "Batman again"... Weird isn't it?
@Voyd EXACTLY
@Voyd trology
STAR WARS SUCKS BECAUSE THERES TOO MANY MOVIES! I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN 7 TIMES WHEN IM TALKING ABPOT THE NEWEST ONE!
CRASH AGAIN
WOW CRASH TRILOGY
WTF
Possibly the funniest thing about this is that like 90% of all of Narutos plot relevant powers were just handed to him through birth.
Why does everyone bring up naruto and this point.
@@uteoryutoifyouwatchthedub389 bcs he talked about it in his video
Wait, so he’s saying he also hates Star Wars because they also have a large connected universe, lots of CGI, and unachievable standard of super abilities? Along with, Pixar, Transformers, Star Trek, etc...
Nightwing well he doesn’t like Star Wars actually
Aaaaand he is Dc Trekkie fanboy lol. But Pewdiepie is still better than T-Series anyway lol
Pokemon ash pikachu Rider Nagano he doesn’t like new Star Wars either!
@@cinematicflop Yeah I Know
But the new Star Trek movies are not that good.
I dont understand why sequels have been made into a negative thing, they arent always just cash grabs and are often the extension and addition of stories for beloved characters. Most of the MCU sequels have been pretty good and refreshing
And also the fact that MCU has been planned all the way from first iron man to infinity war, planting seeds, easter eggs, and foreshadowing in almost every movies leading up to infinity war. I cannot really say that it's just cash grabs.
Its just the same movie over and over, and they won’t stop as long as people keep watching them. The Apple of movie industry
Good vs Bad, Likeable main character but that doesnt really gets to be different or get more deep development, Childish jokes, Good wins. Can you actually tell me that 80% of the Marvel films dont follow this script?
Siman_QL You really wanna tell me that each avenger has the same personality, that in every other action movie good wins, and that if you boil a movie down to the bare essentials it sounds like the exact same movie no matter what it is about?
Barry Bat i didnt say the same, i said not really different. They all are very alike in many ways but (obviously) they have different personalities what i say is that in most of them we dont get to see something more deep about them (Tony stark being the main exception because he’s in like 7 movies). I know all action movies good wins and if you wanna consider the Marvel movies as just action movies then you agree with me, they’re all the same.
I would consider myself a fan of the MCU who hasn't really read much comics.
In response to the movies being the same is complete bs. Captain America the winter soldier; a movie which features a badass independent female superhero (Black widow) as almost equal role as cap and explores distinct themes of trust, justice and corruption within the government and high level organisations.This is not even remotely similar to Thor Ragnorok which is a fun movie that has the threat of Hela which explores family relationships and abandonment.
There is distinctive themes within MOST of the mcu movies and has various writing and production styles that can even justify them being in different genres.
Explores themes eh? Trust , justice, and corruption? Laughable. Not to say that I hate marvel, but just showing up hydra infiltrating shield? No. Please, no.
No Name You dumb?
The problem that Pewdiepie was most likely trying to point is that most marvel movies core message is quite shallow in comparison to anime's... Sure, they are still relevant, and that's probably their focus, corruption, family issues, etc. But still, it's nothing we don't know already right?
Anime on the other hand, usually focus much more on psychological issues rather than existing ones, Fate & Stay Night for example, the core message of it is that "being a hero is fucking dumb", sounds weird, right? But they're absolutely right, self sacrifice isn't always the solution and it is proved through the series multiple times. That kind of morality was mind blowing to a younger me and I can easily say, no Marvel movies has ever had that depth in them... Hell, even Naruto, which is a poorly written story has more depth in it, as Sasuke betrayal of his country was actually onto something, because that allowed him to be strong enough to do shit on the series...
lllKXlll “pewgay lover” marvel movies have as depth as anime. When people are just too dumb to not realise the inner depth of marvel movies, but that’s not marvel’s problem. Anime is twisted which has good values but just isn’t even presented good. The presentation is usually so bad
@@haris9649 Marvel's core message: Killing bad, Helping good.
Anime core message: Self sacrifice is stupid, one shouldn't value others life if they can't value its own; Hard work doesn't mean success, because if that was true, it'd mean the loser was slacking off, which is not always true.
So basically his entire argument was "I'm sick of superhero movies because I'm convinced they are all the same despite not having watched them all and not looking deeper into the realms of story telling and character writing to further understand why people love them so much." Then proceeds to list Non-marvel movies produced by third parties that have nothing to do with the studio aside from copyright. We don't love them because "OOOO~ Sparkly super hero", but because we are invested in their developmental arcs.
Also It's funny how at 8:20 he contradicts himself. He does know he is a UA-camr right? He does know that his fans do that too right?
exactly 😂
Well can you give an example of where a marvel movie isn’t just good guy sees bad guy, they fight, good guy wins? If you’ve seen all of them then surely there is a couple that differs from the formula
@@tomtee_ Captain America Civil War
LMAO CHARACTER ARCS. funny quippy man = character writing. Not one character develops in Marvel movies. Honestly - I'd have more respect if y'all just admitted it was about the spectacle of cool superheroes but don't act like it's some feat of character writing - all that tells me is you have no idea what you're talking about.
This guy has watched daredevil or punisher ☠️☠️ I mean he thinks all Marvel films are the same he literally compared Spider-man to deadpool bruh yes there are similarities but deadpool is no superhero and the villain isn't like over the top like most MCU villains.
"It's a guy in a suit"
Yeah, the beloved actor dressed as one of the most favorited characters in the MCU. The fans there didn't even know he was going to show up, making it that much more amazing for Tom to show up in costume.
Felix's claim that it's just a guy in a suit is like saying Taylor Swift or Ed Sharon are just people with microphones. It's what you so with the suit/microphone that makes it special.
And wouldn’t people go crazy if Felix just showed up to, idk, almost anywhere where people have access to internet. He’s just a guy with a PC setup and camera.
but he is just a guy with pc setup and camera
I still see his point though. I'm a Marvel fan and will scream if I see Tom Hiddleson dressed in his costume. But we are clearly idolizing him or his invented, not real, character. Pewds is a simple dude who simply wants to live his life. It's pretty clear he doesn't like to be in the constant spotlight and hates being put on a pedestal. That's what we do with Tom Hiddleson though. It's understandable he doesn't like it.
Well you got the simple part right.
This is the first time i heard of a marvel cult. I've always thought it's called a fandom but ok
I like to classify them as:
Fanbase is the people that follow and generally enjoy a piece of media
Fandom is the cancerous part of the fanbase that can't take any criticism and always think what they like is perfect and with no mistakes.
@@THEPELADOMASTER Nah I classify both under the big ol' umbrella of "fandom" because I recognise the good and the bad and believe that it would not be good to seperate them, the fandom is all the people that like something or follow something to me.
and I still despise the word "cancerous" being used to say "toxic", "immature", or "literally any other word that can mean 'bad''.
@@the_enderslayer wait cancer means bad all this time I've had this misconception that it meant corny/cringy
Quinn rayner it does have it cult. Have you seen Marvel stans on twitter? They’re worse than Snyder fanboys and BTS fangirls combined
Cheap Tactics The meaning of fandom isn’t that.
I really like pewdiepie but he has literally no good point. Just should have just said "i dont like the movies" and just left it at that
well, he did say that. a couple o times.
The marvel fanboys were hurt and wanted an explanation, that's why there's a video on it. 💔
He did, fanboys got upset and mad at him, that they wanted an explanation
@@nermervillarreal2691 He could have said that he didn't like the ones he saw personally (he obviously hasn't seen all of them). Instead he tried to justify it with objective arguments against them. All his arguments can easily be flipped on things he likes. Anime being the easy choice here.
Just saying "it's my opinion" doesn't protect your points from being criticised.
The Raven you’re right. And I think those things happen when the initial reaction is disliking which then leads to just not liking it as a whole. There’s also generalization of some sort about the subject and that desire everyone has to be different... You know, that thing you just don’t like but everybody else does? Maybe stupid, but it happens to everyone.
... I think.
Agreed. it's fine to have opinions. Not all of them have logical evidence.
calling the Marvel fanbase, a cult, is like calling his own subscribers a cult, just for subscribing to him and watching his videos.
Gravity falls.
@@azrael_pendragon ?
@@gravityfalls1826 your name.. Gravity falls is the same name as a tv show. Very good cartoon.
@@azrael_pendragon Oh ok, also ik, that's why I chose the name lol. Love it as well. Waddles is the best character
@@gravityfalls1826 waddles is the worst character. Gave up intelligence for Mabel.
Bill cipher is my fav.
I'm pretty sure not that many MCU films even follow Felix's formula. Correct me if I'm misremembering anything, but IIRC:
Iron Man: hero and villain don't have powers, hero wants to atone, and the villain wants profit through weapons manufacturing. Only really peace and destruction if you water the motivations down three or four times.
Incredible Hulk: hero wants to be normal, villain wants power.
Iron Man 2: hero wants to not die, villain wants revenge, still no powers.
Thor: hero wants his powers back, villain wants to prove his worth as Odin's son which leads to genocide.
Captain America 1: yeah this one follows Felix's formula, but the fact that it's the 5th MCU film and the only one that inarguably follows every part of Felix's formula is telling.
Avengers: half the heroes don't have powers, villain wants conquest, and at least one of the heroes just wants his brother back.
Iron Man 3: the villain has powers, hero doesn't, villain wants revenge and hero wants to quell his anxiety.
Thor 2: another one that I'll concede to Felix (and I'm one of five people that actually likes Thor the dark world), Malekith wants to end the world and Thor wants to stop that (though also wants to avenge his mom and brother).
Captain America 2: the villains don't have powers (Winter soldier doesn't count, he was a victim, and the main villain was still Pierce), villains want control through engineering safety, the hero wants freedom though has to add more conflict to the world in order to do so.
Guardians: villain wants destruction, heroes want profit and later to "give a shit", so I guess that counts. Although only one of the Guardians has powers.
Avengers 2: villain wants the earth to grow stronger initially through making humanity evolve and then just killing humanity and making him and his robots the top dogs. Heroes want to stop him and prove that they are ultimately good for the world despite the villains claims of them causing stagnation.
Ant Man: no powers, villain wants profit, and the hero wants to be in his daughters life.
Captain America 3: villain has no powers, never fights the heroes, wants revenge, and wins. Heroes want a bunch of things, ranging from atonement to justice to stability amongst themselves, and like half of them still don't have powers.
Doctor Strange: hero earns his shit like Naruto (I'll just be brief about how Naruto qualifies for earning his stuff by Jay's standards, but not Felix's), and doesn't beat the villain, he wins through annoying the villain who wants dominance.
Guardians 2: Ego wants dominance, Guardians want to stop him. I guess this counts but it overlooks a lot of the more interesting parts of Guardians 2, showing just how shallow this formula is.
Spider-Man Homecoming: hero wants to prove his worth, villain wants to make and sell weapons on the black market and doesn't have powers.
Thor 3: hero wants peace, villain wants conquest, though it's made clear Hela is a combat fetishist. Thor doesn't beat her though, he has to summon Armageddon to stop her.
Black Panther: hero wants peace, villain wants dominance through immense violence, but this overlooks that the villain was created because of the type of society the hero inhabits and the hero learns from the villain and takes steps to prevent more Kilmongers from existing in the future.
Avengers 3: the heroes and villain both want to save the universe, but the villains believes mass death is the answer and the heroes don't want that.
I'm gonna stop here because this comment is long enough and I've proved my point that this formula doesn't even really apply to that much of the MCU.
You right!!!!
(also the villain wins in Avengers 3)
Ant Man 2: "Villain" wants TO NOT DIE, heroes are just sort of whisked into things while one wants to find his lost wife.
Captain Marvel: Hero wants ?????????, villains want ?????????
Avengers 4: Heroes want to bring back their dead allies and undo the damage villain caused. Villain... wants to destroy them, hey this one actually kinda lines up, if you ignore almost everything else about the movie.
Spider-Man 2: Hero just wants to enjoy his vacation and maybe not be pressured into filling the role of his dead mentor, Villains want revenge on the first movie's hero.
MCU sucks
@@ShubhamPatil-rl4jk nice to know your opinion, perhaps go state it somewhere that gives a shit.
this is too long
idk i upvoted u jusg coz of your #longpost
*_Funny Captions Fails:_*
_PewDiePie:_ Ironman dies
_Captions:_ I remand eyes
_SinsSins:_ Wakanda
_Captions:_ what Kondo
_SinsSins:_ PewDiePie
_Captions:_ Peter guy
Pewdiepie is spider man confirmed
What that dude predicted endgame
@@gordier6787 Or maybe... PewDiePie is Peter Griffin!
I thought the new York battle scene in Avengers was filmed in a city, not CGI. That in it self is a testament to how well the CGI is handled.
Ratchellio you wouldn’t understand how upset I was when I learned they didn’t actually throw Scarlett Johansson off a cliff 😠
@@outbacksteakhouseofficial they pay her enough that she should be fine with being thrown off a cliff.
@@outbacksteakhouseofficial why do you hate her so much that you want her to commit suicide?
@@larsspargur97 ^^
@@multiplefandoms4928 it's just a joke bro I love her
Yes, Naruto worked so hard for his powers, it's not like he's the reincarnation of the most powerful ninjutsu user and get a demon fox put in him on the day he was born that gives him an almost endless supply of chakra. All hard work 100%.
That to me is the biggest thing that nearly invalidates Pewdiepies opinion; he likes anime.
I'm not an anime fan, but from what I understand, anime, superhero movies, fantasy and scifi are very similar in their formula. They're all about the heros journey, and powers, be they magical or superhuman or technologically achieved.
And I can admit that I have no real reason why I don't like anime. I like fantasy stuff and superhero movies, but for some reason I just don't like anime. Pewdiepie is totally welcome to not like Marvel but he hates Marvel for the same reasons he likes other genres... Or he likes other genres despite all those characteristics, like oversaturation or similar storylines.
@@atinity6749 The only thing I will disagree with this is that anime is a medium, not a genre, but I get and agree, with your point.
@@atinity6749 He didn't dislike MCU because of magic power people flying around and love Naruto because of magic people flying around. It's hard to explaine but let start with this question: From captain america 1 to endgame, how many time did captian america got shot at, stabbed, chased by enemies or find himself in dangerous situation?
@@raindownchoas He didn't dislike MCU because of magic power people flying around and love Naruto because of magic people flying around. It's hard to explaine but let start with this question: From captain america 1 to endgame, how many time did captian america got shot at, stabbed, chased by enemies or find himself in dangerous situation?
@@indigard2747 I don't think he made that argument. He complained how no character can perma die because of franchise, but they absolutely can.
"Black Panther is the first black superhero!"
*cough cough* Rhodey and Falcon *cough cough*
And Rhodey got the suit in Iron Man 2, the third MCU film to be released...
Edit: Everyone in the comments is saying he meant the first black superhero movie, but...Blade exists (unless you're talking MCU)
Edit 2: Why y'all still replying I made this comment a year ago and didn't brain it out too much
*cough* Blade
@@quebal_kelly Also true, I just meant in the MCU
Movie
Lmao 2 sidekicks, barely heroes.
They are just side characters. It's like wonder woman, girls love to see a woman have a leading role in a film they can relate
Basically Felix tried to talk about something he knows very little about. All of his points are extremely shallow and can be disproven by almost anyone.
Exactly
Hello, I seem to be unable to do so. Would you mind helping me out?
+Luigi Vercotti with what?
elaboration
You can list a few of his points and I'll refute them if you want lol.
Rename your channel, your channel is too unique and good to be renamed after another channel.
I agree
MF Doom
I also agree
DiscoverMarvel bro, you are everywhere. lmao
like, meh, idk, Cynicism Cynic or something.
MF Doom
HELL YEAH😂😂😂
“Do you actually think they’re going to stop making iron man movies” that didn’t age well
And Jay saying that they can’t do anything with Loki anymore as well
Well iron man is coming back in what if
@@itsmeok6205 "What If...?" is basically a series on, what if that happened instead of that? Sorry if I'm confusing, so I'll provide an example. In Civil War, at the final fight, what if Captain America had killed Iron Man instead of stopping? Or if Iron Man DIDN'T die in Endgame? In a series that explores on what would happen if a certain character made another decision or an event goes another way, it's impossible to not include a character that has already died in the movies.
@@MustardGuy161 i know what what if is I'm just saying that he is coming back
@@adamcameron485 its almost like i was just pointing out that he is coming back for at least one episode of what if
PewDiePie: You're yelling at a guy in a suit.
Me: Oh you know it's not like the guy in the suit is talented actor who amazingly embarrassed and played the role of Loki the god of Mischief from Norse Mythology. And said actor appeared in costume as said fan favorite character thus making the fans scream and yell out of excitement. It totally couldn't be THAT.
Also PewDiePie used WoW and the Warcraft movie as an example. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Warcraft movie based off the Warcraft real time strategy games? And not World of Warcraft? And Naruto? Really? The boy who is the reincarnation of an ancient person who lived long ago along with the fact Naruto's father sealed a fox demon inside of him.. yeah totally worked for his powers totally.
I'm only gonna disagree on the Naruto bit. I'm not an expert in Naruto. I've only seen the first 15 ish episodes of the Naruto show simply titled Naruto. Naruto was an outcast who was close to failing whatever class it was and proving that he is nothing but incompetent. The only episodes I've ever seen is Naruto failing so I don't know where "he didn't work for his power" came from.
@@theskepticpirate156 Will have to disagree with the Naruto part too. Yes, he was granted a lot throughout the story but none of that would have mattered if he had not gone through blood, sweat and tears to master it and control it. That and, as @The Skeptic Pirate pointed out, he was a complete dumb as shit and incompetent outcast at the beginning.
Naruto is kinda like most RPG video game characters - they start out like crap and by the end of the game are very OP, but they wouldn't be like that if they didn't acquire the XP through their own efforts.
i don't like marvel movies. and i have no reason other than they're just not my thing.
i totally understand why people like it and i can see that it's quality film making. i just don't like it.
pewdiepie is just clutching at straws here
Thank you. I love the MCU and respect opinion opposing my own but I don't when their REASONING and LOGIC is wrong.
"I have heard you have made an opinion, but given it's a stupid ass opinion I've reckoned to ignore it."
@Bobs Vegana imagine responding to a 4 month old comment lmao
@Bobs Vegana imagine responding to a 4 month old comment responding to a video made a year before smh
@Bobs Vegana imagine responding to comment responding to a stupid comment responding to a 4 month old comment responding to a video made a year before smh
Bobs Vegana there’s no time limit to a reply ya buffoon.
"If only there was a superhero film the challenges the idea of what's right and what isn't"
Hmm, I guess Captain America: Civil War never happened
That was one film out of too many to count i think its okay of he missed a film dude
@@demo0831 no. It really isn't
@@demo0831 considering it was one of the biggest and best Marvel has put out. Im pretty sure it's hard to miss.
Black panther did to. It was for different issues (obviously) but at the end of the movie T'challa views changed on the way he viewed the world.
Like Spider-Man 2 and some of 3 never happened.
One film: about a rich guy getting kidnapped and creating gear to protect the earth
Other film: about a mutant team trying to standing up for there kind and unescalate a soon to be war
Pewdiepie: OmG tHeY aRe ThE sAmE
Let me just say that a lot of fandoms are pretty cancerous, Marvel fans aren't that bad, it's really just an intense rivalry with DC when it comes down to it.
And it's funny that Felix brings up anime as an example against the MCU when fandoms for some anime and western cartoons are just the absolute worst out there.
Yeah, it’s a really bad point
Outside of star wars most fandoms are fine.
The one punch man Fandom is fucking CANCER
It's also ironic seeing how Felix own fanbase is a fucking cesspool.
Felix's fan base looks more like a cult than Marvel's does.
The problem with CGI is that few understand it, practical effects most people get, while for a lot of people just think of CGI as a "press a button to do anything" Which even if it is true, does it really have to take you out of the movie for you to like the movie?
The CGI is also really good. Sure, it will become dated, but for now, it's pretty spot on.
I think it's just when someone knows it's CG, they can't suspend their disbelief enough because they lack creativity or investment in the story. I think everyone can agree, no matter how bad a film's special effects are, if they story is good, the film is good. So using CGI as a reason to not like something is an excuse the brain creates to avoid adressing the real issues (of Felix just has absolutely no creativity whatsoever, honestly, I'd believe either).
@@kirin1230 But not all of marvel has pefect cgi, they have bad moments, and also, they overuse it.
True but that shit is overused to make up for the lack in their plot and character development
pahfucy franfran the hell, kid? Give me some instances
@@haris9649 Pretty much the whole of black panther(especially the last fight scene). The entirety of spider man hoemcoming when they made tom hollands suit vfx when they really could have just used practical effects. Civil war, iron man's suit looks a little iffy. And in infinity war, when Bruce Banner's head is sticking out of the hulk buster suit, it looks god awful.
FURY: After New York, I convinced the World Security Council we needed a quantum surge in threat analysis. For once, we're way ahead of the curve.
ROGERS: By holding a gun to everyone on Earth and calling it protection.
FURY: Y'know, I read those SSR files. Greatest generation? You guys did some nasty stuff.
ROGERS: Yeah, we compromised. Sometimes, in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so that people could be free. This isn't freedom. This is fear."
From a movie that, apparently, does not question what's good, and what isn't.
my friend once told me that The Winter Soldier is one of the worst Marvel movies and i laughed in his face and called him brain dead. he rewatched the movie and apologized to me later.
@@RandomCrewPotatoSoup the question now is, what was he doing the first time he saw it?
The winter soldier is a solid movie but u r contributing to the cancer of the fan base that can't take criticism. He doesn't enjoy it which is fine BC the winter soldier has a bunch of weird things in it. Personally I think how they used Bucky was weird in the movie but still enjoyed the movie as a whole
@@msr2566 when people conglomerate into groups, and in these groups create a closer group that are called "friends" a common way to strengthen the groups cohesion is to playfully "rib" eachother.
@@SantosAl what? I don't get what u mean by saying they "rib" into eachother
I like how he dislikes their fan base for being passionate but yet he has the most passionate fan bases on UA-cam
That's literally why he is the most subbed person lol
But that doesn’t necessarily means he enjoys having a fan base like that. He’s said multiple times that he wishes his fans could be more relaxed and tamed and he has even stopped taking pictures with them. He asked them and they stopped so maybe that speaks to how passionate they are but I doubt people would stop begging Drake for photos of he asked them to stop.
7:50 - "you screaming at a guy dressed in a suit" yeah its almost like tom hiddleston would be an famous actor or something...
i would love to get an answer from pewdiepie to this question... "what would happen if you would go to vidcon"? something similar? maybe?
Have you seen a pewdiepie panel
Exactly. "look at this, a convention of pop culture fans are excited about a big event in pop culture. CULT"
Yeah but... it’s still a guy in a suit.
It just shows how big is the fanatism for this movies and how popular they are, when a bunch of people are yelling like crazy for an actor doing his job in front of you (which wasn’t a big demonstration of acting skills or anything) well... they’re yelling at the character, not the person.
@@siman_ql5729 yeah just like people would yell like that if beyonce would have come out there?
Suicideinsilence exactly! They yell at Beyonce: the woman, the artist, the musician.
On that moment when Loki appeared they went nuts because it was Loki in front of them, not just the actor, but the character.
That’s what shows the fanatism that they have, now they are yelling at fictional characters. It wasn’t even a trailer or a big announcement, just a Fictional character appearing in front of them.
The thing is... if those were just kids yelling that would be fine, the adult part is what is concerning.
Personally, hearing those fans cheer when infinity war was announced actually gave me goosebumps. It was really epic just hearing how passionate and excited everyone there was.
It was annoying
Pyromaniac 05 I’m sorry it was annoying.
@@davidthevatheril1530 Fuck off.
The first two replies are retarded lmfao. Tf you expect, for them to be quiet? Okay.
@@davidthevatheril1530 I think the proper and polite thing to do in that situation is to contain all your emotions and feelings and shit them out later at home?
What I got from his video is:
1. He doesn't understand what a cinematic universe is supposed to be
2. He thinks he's special for not liking something popular
3. He can't grasp the concept of fans coming together to enjoy something they all love
Also I don't get the argument "it follows the same formula" All genre films follow a formula but what people love is the stories within them, how it affects the character and changes their actions both in everyday life and when they next suit up to save the world. The mcu characters almost always face the consequences of their actions, it may not always pay off well but they still do.
Lucy agreed
He also thinks having sequels makes something redundant.
retards with thors hammer up the asses
@Jim Cornette We don't care about his opinion, we care that if he is bothering to give reasons, they need to be valid.
Pewdiepie: The MCU has no moral ambiguity.
'Bury me in the ocean, with my ancestors that jumped from ships, because they knew that death was better than bondage.
Tfatws: near total moral ambiguity
Gotg: good guys are morally ambiguous (though the bad guy is obviously more evil)
Civil war: MORE near total moral ambiguity
Age of ultron: maon characters figbt the monster that they created
"If Thanos gets me, promise you will kill me."
MCU trashhhh
Holy shit this is lame as fuck lmao. Pewdiepie was 100% right
As a kid I think superheroes made me a better person tbh. Always tried to be nice cuz of them.
That's kinda cute.
Spider-Man cheers man 😂
Sameee
Fr
That's the whole point of superheroes. To inspire. Which is why I love them
complains about superhero movies being the same,
makes a billion you laugh you lose videos
I know right
And a billion more "meme reviews" that are all the same
Now it's the tik tok videos reactions .. billions of them
And the LWIAYs
NO fanboy came on this comment to lash out. coz its true nd it stings.
Don't forget, Pewdiepie once admitted he NEVER watched any of the MCU movies, and yet he still criticizing them
it's a shame really if that's the case. I judge things that I don't know much about but usually I have some form of experience. Like with DC I have seen some of the films and can form a reasonable opinion from that.
I did get the impression with how he phrased his words and the examples he used that he hasn't seen most of the marvel movies hes talking about. I wonder if his opinion would be different if he had seen them all.
scalpingsnake It would at least be more nuanced. He claims these are his personal opinions, but they sound incredibly similar to clickbait headlines I’ve seen on different websites. It’s like he just scrolled real quick through a few tweets that have no context and called it research.
@@Wyattoons I wish that wasn't true but it seems like it is. I don't mind though as these may still be his opinion even if said opinion is a bad one.
scalpingsnake just to clarify are you saying his opinion is bad cause the opinion is I don’t like marvel movies or is it bad cause he’s saying that without watching any of them
@@rulerofthewild7747 I'm saying his opinion is bad based of the evidence given in this video.
“They fight, superhero wins.. yayyyy”
Avengers infinity war: *Not in my books.*
Endgame: forget about Infinity war, nothing really happened in that movie
@@Revenger373 yup, heros always win.
One movie out of like 20
They call it the marvel formula where the good guys win but in most movies ever made the good guys win
Good guys win in almost every movie and what about civil war
"I dont like superheroes movies because cause of too much CGI, its like watching an animated movie"
-A guy who enjoys watching anime
Don't bring anime into this 😂
Does everyone have to say exactly the same thing? 100% Of the comments going against Pewdiepies opinion says ''but you like anime'' like that changes anything that he said about the Marvel films.
71 likes boiiiiiiiiiiiii
@@siman_ql5729 Yeah. It's the best argument they have lmao.
@@siman_ql5729this one works because Anime is ANIMATED. Pewds critiqued marvel movies for being filled with CGI, that it's like an ANIMATED movie. It contradicts in a sense. I know he didn't mean it like that
"The Marvel Cult"
Pewdiepie: Its a guy dressed in a suit...
Also Pewdiepie: I'm going to japan to meet a giant anime Squirrel and im freaked out
😂😂
And.... its still his opinion though
Demo 0 it’s still hypocrisy
@@demo0831 him having opinion doesnt mean he cant be criticized if its dumb.
@@CoolJoshido212 why does it matter if he doesn't like marvel?
Pewdiepie calling a fanbase a cult is so ironic lmao
I am in said cult but yes it was not his best work
What's your point exactly? Just because I'am not a chef doesnt mean I cant criticize someone for making shit food
What you are have no relevance to whether you can critique something or not,especially when you have no control over the said thing
@@nra3zehuti781 the difference is that he is a leader of a cult
your example would go like
a chef who makes shit food, criticizes other shit food is itonic
Don’t forget to subscribe to pewdiepie lads!
**takes out shotgun**
@@tumbba518 you call Bros a cult? Damn you are dumber than this guy who made this video.
the most subscribed youtuber complains about oversaturation, repeated structuring, screaming fans (wtf people used to get hurt at Vidcon stampeding when they heard pewdiepie was there) and used so many other terrible arguments. Comparing race in America to people saying they can't relate to a damn talking cartoon car? That brings his IQ into question. That part showed his ignorance to cultural problems; black kids were forced to idolize others who don't fully look like them therefore there is always a small disconnect. Black Panther gave black kids a movie full of people who look like them portrayed as heroes. . .Pewdiepie never said anything about black people being portrayed as thugs and gangsters lol. Anyone who has a problem with that has hidden biases plain and simple. Sorry for the paragraph. Dope video love your thought processes
Holy Crap, ALAAAAAAAANNN!!!
I understand your point but how does it bring his iq into question. Pewdiepie doesn't read the comics he's not a massive superhero fan and he's probably not a film expert.
@Carnivorus yeah ok. 👌
@@minor7805 it's more about the fact he is completely ignorant to all the nuance that exists in this situations. As a man that's been smeared constantly for racist and shit don't ya think he would become a little bit educated on the topics at hand?
@@minor7805 It understandably doesn't bring his IQ in question. It does however bring his EQ in question. Being a white guy, born in a White country and living in a White country, what does he know about why it matters to people of colour that they are represented?
While his sentiments are worthy (that you don't need to be of my race for me to idolise you, you just need to be a good human being), they are not helpful because they rely on being invisible to colour, which doesn't work. OF COURSE White communities and coloured communities are different. Of course there's a difference between Asian culture and European culture. The solution to equality problems isn't to close your eyes, stuff fingers into your ears and pretend everybody is the same even though deep down you can see they aren't the same.
The solution is to open your eyes and ears and heart, see that people are different, but know that that isn't a reason for us to discriminate. Difference has, will should always exist. Discrimination doesn't have to.
"AT LEAST NARUTO WORKED HARD TO GET HIS SUPERPOWERS"
- Son of one of the most powerful ninjas in Konoha.
- Son of a Tailed Beast Host.
- Is an actual Tailed Beast Host thanks to his dad.
- Descended from the strongest being in Narutoverse.
- Is an reincarnation of the son of the strongest being in Narutoverse.
- Has one of the Legendary Ninjas as his personal tutor.
- Is the prophesied Chosen One
LOL.
NoReDuX he did work hard though
Thank you, was just about to say this.
Sure, he did work hard. Be he also had a fuck ton of good fortune and opportunities handed to him. And he is literally the child of prophecy, he was born to do good things and change the world.
Rock Lee was the ultimate symbol of hard work to be an amazing version of yourself and keeping up with blessed, natural genius peers. (until he got shafted in Part 2)
@@roz067 yeah, it's not like 99% of the power of Naruto is kurama and rikkudo sennin bs
CRIP KILLA Whan youre the chosen one it doesnt matter if you work hard or not, it was all predestinated. Thats why that cliché is so garbage.
NoReDuX 10/10
"if iron Man dies do you just think they're going to stop making iron Man movies"
... yes
... yes I do that's how continuity works
Yes darth vader died in ep. 6 and that stopped them from doing more vader movies. Oh wait..
Well maybe but it wont be with Tony stark maybe Rhodey as Iron man.
@@Zak-bv4qm "They'll make prequels"
I'd like to see them make an Iron Man prequel without any Iron Man tech given that he first got the idea for the Iron Man suit in the first movie.
The funny part is that Marvel's already stopped making Iron Man movies. The last one was 6 years ago and there's been no discussion of a 4th one
@@nobudgetreviewer exactly! And once he's done in the avengers movies and all his other little roles throughout (cough death cough) then he won't be in the movies anymore unless they back in time such as they're doing in Captain marvel with coulson
"I don't like CGI because it doesn't look realistic, looks like I'm watching an animated movie"
hmmm... There's something wrong with animated movies?
I'm almost an animator (still learning) and I love marvel movies, specially the Hulk effects because they are animated
Renan43 yea that look amazing
Renan43 You have to agree though, the Hulk effects in the Incredible Hulk were awful...
I dont watch it in a long time so I can't say for sure, but I do remember that the hulk scenes where fun to watch
Spider-Ham: You've got a problem with cartoons?
Seriously though, totally agree. Honestly, most of my personal favorite live action movies and shows are the ones that feel like animated movies and shows (except live action adaptations of cartoons, with some exceptions). These projects can allow audiences to go into worlds that you wouldn't be able to go into in real life, while eerily reflecting ours. In other words, as they say in the Simpsons: "You want a down to earth show- that's off the wall and filled with magic space robots?"
THIS is why I love the MCU. In 12 years we have met Gods who's worth a symbolized by hammers, a raccoon that likes guns raising a tree that talks like a Pokemon, a man that can turn into a muscle bound monster, a man and a women that can change their sizes, and a giant purple alien that somehow manages to be both terrifying and sympathetic, in a series that somehow manages to pull at our heartstrings and make us laugh at the same time! To me, that's amazing storytelling. Maybe not as nuanced as The Godfather, Saving Private Ryan, or To Kill a Mockingbird, but still impressive and deserving of every praise they get.
Also, doesn't PewDiePie do Let's Plays? Video games are CGI.
what the fudge? New York was CGI in Avengers??? I didn't even notice... I too thought they added destruction over real footage. Like dang. I'm twice as impressed now. And yeah, there's a lot to be impressed with in a marvel movie... and if CGI ain't your thing--and I get how watching some CGI battles like Hulk VS. Abomination or Iron Man vs. War Machine can be a bit boring, no matter how impressive... but there are still tons of live stunts and chereo. So you don't like the motion capture of the hulk or the mystic arts of Doctor Strange? Fine, there's still Steve, Bucky, Nat, the cast of Black Panther.
ohifonlyx33 for the New York thing, I didn’t even realize until I watched his video that it was cgi, and that just instantly disproved that point for me, though it is still personal preference
@@calebhodgson9945 The whole shot of Iron Man flying around, Hulk jumping around and other are fully CGI, hell they even recreate the whole Manhattan just to animate the battle.
I’ve lived in New York City my whole life...and didn’t realize they had CGI’d the city. Hell, I’ve been in or near most of the buildings they faked and just assumed they flew in and filmed them.
honestly people critisicing movies for bad CGI is a pretty lame excuse imo
@@person43 I think it depends on why they are criticizing it. If they are into computer generated imagery then I don't think it matters.
My biggest problem was Pewdiepie's description of the plot of Marvel movies, because it's the same with most movies, shows, books, plays, etc. Mostly every story follows some form the "Hero's Journey" plot map because it works and that's what people want to see.
They follow the same basic steps: 1. Call to Adventure 2. Acceptance of call (most of the time after an initial refusal of the call) 3. Meeting the mentor 4. Crossing the threshold 5. Rising Action 6. Defeat, Death and Rebirth (can be literal or figurative death and rebirth) 7. Atonement 8. Journey Home. Examples of other non-Marvel movies/stories/authors that follow this: Star Wars, Lord of the Rings/Hobbit, Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, The Wizard of Oz, Chronicles of Narnia, Moby Dick, Jane Eyre, Charles Dickins, Mark Twain, Stephen King etc.
It's a long tangent, I know, but it just doesn't make sense to call out one studio or genre for using the same basic plot map that appears in most (if not all) of the popular stories told around the world.
Molly Brueske Captain America and Iron Man are basically the same story. Both have foreign scientist that give them their abilities. Both fight an evil villain with the same abilities.
@@anti1training I guess I'm not sure what you mean that a foreign scientist gave Tony Stark his ability. Iron Man doesn't have any abilities, he has a suit that he built (he certainly had help building that first suit but that scientist - or doctor in the movie - didn't give him the suit, or the design or the mind to build it). Afterwards Stark built the sleeker design that he keeps improving without the help of any foreign scientist. If you're talking about the arc reactor in his chest then that's not an ability that's just saving Stark's life. Even then the doctor (in the mcu) hooked him up to a car battery and the Stark converted what the doctor did into the arc reactor. I'm only going off of the mcu because that's what I know and that's what Pewdiepie was discussing. I'm not saying that there are absolutely no similarities, what I'm saying is that it would make more sense if Pewdiepie criticized all storytellers for using the same basic plot map - not just Marvel.
MCU has always dealt with Arms races, War, genocide, espionage,political thrillers,fantasy adventures,Artificial Intelligence,hilarious comedies including heartfelt tragedies,pure action blockbusters,Space sci-fy,phycological character studies, murders,deaths,extreme tortures,brutal actions,government rule, weapons dealing,demons,different tones,different genres, these are core aspects and themes of Marvel movies too.
ayyy joseph campbell
Anti 1 Workout/Nutritional Researcher/free Trainer Captain America was given his because he passed the scientist's test, test of selflessness, I mean he was willing to die for everyone's sake, rather than staying away from the grenade, he used his body to cover it, and told everyone to take cover. Imagine having a super powered asshole.
"Whats bad about marvel movies?"
"There is so many of them"
"Yes but what's bad"
"Uh..THERES SO MANY OF THEM!!!!!!!!"
They are the same... That's all
Stephan Chewking no but ok
Just Jams I think he gave a lot of other arguments.
@@nemethelvtars Not at all
@@barneyborbone4079 Which were wrong lol
"I don't like it because it's popular" is one of the least valid reasons ever.
What is your opinion on fortnite?
@@captainszasz5836 shit game
@@captainszasz5836 shit game
My point has been proven.
@@captainszasz5836
I don't have one.
PewDiePie: your screaming at a guy in a suit
Also PewDiePie: *has a bunch of people screaming at him*
i mean he always says himself how much he dislikes it
I mean, he’s not in a suit so it’s ok
Pewdiepie screams in all of his videos
Also pewdiepie: screaming at a blocky sheep
@@donovanstewart698 I mean, that do any matter anyways but ok
It's so embarrassing that Pewdiepie completely fails on all levels to make the distinction between idolizing superheroes' *powers* and *how they use those powers.* Nobody idolizes Captain America because they want to be able to throw a motorcycle, they idolize him because of his humility and character.
"Its not about his ability to throw a motorcycle, its about when he chooses to throw the motorcycle"
"It is our choices that show what we truly are far more than our abilities."
No. It's because we wanna be able to throw a fucking a shield across walls and somehow get it back with some kind of futuristic technology thingy and still fight like a pro
who idolizes captain America lmao. People born after 2006 I guess
I do.
I was born in 2001.
Your argument is invalid.
“Too much cgi”
I mean, was he expecting them to hand build wakanda? Or was he expecting that the chitari could be hand built?
or injecting mark ruffalo with gamma radiation in order to turn him into a giant green rage monster?
Why not
You'd be suprised at what practical effects could do. Just look up Studioadi. They had some great effects for The Thing prequel, Sea of Monsters, and an amazing Green Goblin mask from Raimi's fist Spidey film that got replaced with the power ranger.
Just depends on preference.
Oryonn but CGI looks fake, practical effects do not. You mean to tell me thanos face doesn’t look like a fricking videogame? It completely kills the immersion
@@Cuasimodo2372 yes thanos face doesn't look like a videogame at all..... The CGI was incredible and you could even see his facial expressions while talking.
*watches anime*
*Says the marvel fanbase is cultish and bad*
bruh
Right like I enjoy anime but the fanbase is probally one of the most toxic places you can be in if you look in the wrong directions
Also is pewdiepie who’s fans would dox a baby for watching nursery rhymes channel
and the anime he talks about after it IS NARUTO
LMAOOOOOO
7:13 they flipped a real truck into a real Stone barrier in Captain America Civil War.
Waoh das crazy
And in the first Avengers film where Loki blows up that truck and it slides on its front, that was all practical
@@darcassian6006 and accidental
And to be fair I couldn't tell if it was practical or not so does it matter
See the "behind the scenes" and most of the shit was real.
"Naruto worked hard for his powers"
Yes Naruto worked hard to be born with a god like entity in him. Naruto worked hard to be the reincarnation of another god like entity.
Oh yeah I forgot he was born hokage level I forgot how no one loved him for years I forgot how the whole village hated him I forgot how much he trained to be on par with his fellow student god they shouldn’t made the show like that instead of him being born a god and being loved from the start
@ako riko I really don't see your point here. And also, those 2 weren't "kinda wrong." They're actually right in a sense. Stop twisting it up. You obviously tried to make yourself sound right by fitting in your own narrative.
StarDust Sebby you really think Naruto would’ve gotten where he is without the Kyuubi, without the chakra boost he gets from his lineage, without being given six paths sage mode?
@@austinbailey4605 I think you guys just aren't looking into Pewdiepie argument deep enough, the reason he emphasizes naruto is because the whole narrative of the anime is focused on showing him slowly getting stronger through his hardwork and guts, it's WAAY easier to take a moral lesson from it than from someone who suddenly something magical happens to him, and he suddenly has an immense powerup and usually never focus on an objective at all, instead of responding to immediate threats...
lllKXlll comparing to shonen anime to superheroes is pretty different.Naruto doesn’t even know about the ninetail fox til later on
DIsney owns Marvel:
Disney fired Pewdiepie.
End video
Win
Oh shit Felix is salty
Lol
The real reason Pewdiepie is shitting on Marvel.
Yeah...that must be the reason...
Can't think of any other reason why people would not like marvel movies..
I love how Felix wants a Purple beast, a Green Giant, and flying heroes shooting at each other to be practical
Lmao exactly
“Oh well my bad Felix, let’s just inject some magical stuffs into all of our actors so they can fly, be huge monsters, or even shoot lighting”
@PewDie Pie yes
I think he never mentioned it in that way.
He ment it in the way where they do things that can be done in real life but they choose to do it with cg.
Making it real gives it a feeling of reality.
@@danampsteri1618 I think building a skyscraper just to destroy it might not be a great use of resources
Basically every movie according to pewdiepie:
There's a good guy and bad guy. Good guy wins.
Yep and the thing is if you only see things like that then everything is so simple and nothing in interesting.
Paiting is just about putting colors on a white thing
Building a fucking building is just about is just about putting bricks on bricks on bricks until it makes a fucking building
A world tour isn't interesting because you basically do a trip from a place to the same place
That's how dumb it is
fight club. bad guy wins at the end. saw franchise. jigsaw always outsmart the victims. rom-com movies. no bad guy or good guy. so not basically every movie
@@farlonmuentes6004 In Avengers: Infinity War and Captain America: Civil War the good guys also don't win. So the Pewds formula doesn't apply to all MCU movies either
Infinity war
Infinity war: am I a joke to you?
*PewDiePie:* Complains about superhero movies being formulated
*Also PewDiePie:* _makes 20 meme reviews in which he basically 1) Sees a meme 2) Says what he thinks about it 3) Repeat_
At least they are different memes
@@CollinSpilinek but memes are never predictable... Marvel movies are... That's a huge difference
@@xshxr He doesn't have to love Marvel, and that's his opinion, I understand that. You don't need justification to not like something. But if you're gonna make a video saying why you don't like something, then use good arguments instead of what you used. See 3kiksphilips' video for example. He made the same video but with better reasons, so I don't think he is wrong.
But Pewdiepie wasn't making a Movie.
And ylyl
Just like black widow and Hawkeye got their “powers” by training.
Doesn't Hawkeye just…have…superhuman aim?
Wolfeur i don’t think that has been confirmed but it is possible.
The Watchdog no realistic amount of training will give you 100% perfect shots almost every time
JCtallo it’s a movie about superheroes. It’s not meant to be realistic. In their world you can train to be at that level. May and Ward are examples of humans almost being at that level.
Why do u think they are not as popular ??
"the fanbase is a cult"
-PewDiePie
Lmaooooko
I can agree that a lot of people from the mcu fandom is the worst people ever,but thats the weakest arguement someone can find to critisize movies XD
Just realised that Marvel got both "Human Torch"'s to drop Fantastic Four and join the MCU... neat.
"super hero wins"
wow i didnt know thanos was a super hero in infinity war
@@thefearshark dude it was made before endgame
@@thefearshark Sorry but, are you actually trying to say the formula is good? I'm confused about how you think the heroes winning in a film after a film where they lost is a negative
@@thefearshark Ok, but that's not the point I made. I was just saying that Endgame having the heroes win doesn't make pewdiepies hyper-reductive formula good, since you seemed to be defending it
@@thetrollingclownfish9739 But if you take the superheroes and superpowers from that formula, it could apply to basically any movie. In most movies the good protagonist wins and the character that acts as antagonist loses. Whatever that may be. It applies to action films, to thrillers, to fucking romantic movies.
The genre where it least applies is horror, with the "villain coming back at the last second for a last kill" trope.
@@thefearshark So, you're pushing your opinion as absolute fact.
"They don't have people idolizing them"
*Laughs in r/Thanosdidnothingwrong*
r/ihavereddit
@@hystericallover5989 This is one of the few times that doesn't work, I'm sorry to say
@@satireknight I mean... I can see where Thanos is coming from, and I can see why people believe he didn't do anything wrong... but I do think Thanos is a mad man.
He's a man that saw a problem, decided on a solution and never cared to find any other solution even when the thing he needed for his solution gave him better solutions.
Thanos is evil, don't get me wrong, but he's what I would call a "misguided villain". One who is attempting to do good, but doing so through evil means, or has had that twisted into something evil, or something along those lines.
What he's attempting to do, stop overpopulation from causing suffering, is a completely good thing to do. His way of doing it? Murdering half the universe... that's not a good way to do the thing... at all.
So, I do see where he's coming from, and he's not 100% wrong on everything, just the "murder half the universe" thing.
@@thegercast4794 Some villains have good points, though. There's been plenty of villains I've agreed with, at least on SOME topics.
Sure, those same villains are (mostly) horrible people and don't deserve idolization. But there is a logical through line in their thinking and people can get behind that. It's possible people idolize not the villain/antagonist themselves, but the views of the villain they can agree with (not necessarily all of them).
At least that's how I see it.
@@guikoi3101 Yeah I see where you're coming from. Thats called creating sympathy and/or empathy for the villain. You can understand and perhaps even partially agree with the motivations of a character (Thanos wants to make the universe a better place...) without agreeing with their methods for achieving said goal (...by wiping out half the universe). Hell, in Black Panther they apply this to the hero himself. Panther himself comes to agree with Killmonger than because Wakanda CAN help people, they SHOULD. That doesn't make Killmonger any less a villain though, because of the way he plans to go about it.
Pewdiepie talking about over saturation is possibly the most ironic thing ever
"There's too many marvel movies"
the guy with over 4000 videos, each around 15 minutes.
@@radstaz2029 all about reddit
@@chuck1313 and he's also overrated
@@alexanderm.635 he is mrbeast does more interesting things than him
@@rogue9230 that's because MrBeast puts actual effort into his videos plus he makes people happy, while all Pewdiepie does is sit on a chair and react to videos. I'm sure that Pewds is a nice person, but his content is lackluster
18:35 it’s obvious that the people who were snapped out of existence are coming back, but it’s more entertaining if you look at it from the characters’ perspective, rather than as an audience member. For example, (SPOILERS) when Spider-Man fades away, we know he’s gonna return because they’re filming his sequel, but Tony doesn’t know that. All Tony knows is that he failed, and half the universe is dying because of him! That makes it a bit better to watch thinking about it this way
Iron Creeper Gaming yeah. People like Felix have such a cynical and uncreative outlook on it like “oh they’re not actually dead so it’s boring and bad storytelling” no, having stakes doesn’t necessarily mean that have to die for ever, high stakes could mean serious character development has occurred like it has in infinity war. People with Felix’s opinion on this are just trying to make themselves dislike it
Yeah as MovieBob says, EVERYTHING that happens to characters in any story can be undone at the whim of the writers, that's fiction. Sure temporarily killing people off is a tiresome trope in the comic books, but not in comic book movies, that was novel to see they actually did it. They did a great job of selling it, of making us think right up to the last second it might not actually happen or not in this movie, and we can guess from who was left alive and the fact this is the swan song for the OG Avengers, that they won't all survive whatever it takes to bring everyone else back.
It's also the height of trying to look smart without actually thinking things through to be like "Hurr Durr they obviously aren't killing off Black Panther and SpiderMan!" Really? You were on board with thinking that KILLING HALF THE UNIVERSE would be the new status quo until a few specific characters died? Really? You thought the next 10 years of MCU movies would be a post-apocalyptic hellscape, people trying to process the insanity of what happened and find a reason to carry on living, and the galactic neighborhood around Earth being invaded on a daily basis by hyper-advanced civilizations that traced the source of the event here and are hell-bent on revenge?
Nuggy
If thats the case..Dr.Strange would have stopped Star Lord very easily.
Yeah, he screwed up but I'll be honest I would have done the same. I mean dude lost his mom, had to kill his bio dad, lost his real dad, lost his girlfriend who he loved, couldn't keep his promise, only to find out Thanos killed her and failed again. Dude, I would be surprised if he didn't do anything. I mean that situation I mean yeah he screwed up BIG time but understand it's a human emotion and sometimes you can't destroy it.
+Iron Creeper Gaming, Omg, thank you! I'm so tired of everyone and their mother telling me how they yawned in the theatre while the characters were Voldemorting away because of how crazy smart they are in realizing they'll return. I was stunned to the core because I saw the survivors and felt their confusion, terror and desperation! This is a situation that was built up to over 30+ hours of screen time, storytelling and character development, and the mere helplessness all these superpowered characters had to feel at that moment (each one in their own unique way!) is a deep and complicated experience bleeding out of the screen. Why not quiet your ego for 20 seconds and give yourself up to it? Does it require too much imagination for you to handle or something?
He does not like super heroes because they have powers and we can't reach the power???
So why is he allowed to like animes???????????
Why does he like the dark knight? a truck tipping over round after an explosion in the back, hmm sounds legit. An orphan billionaire with unlimited money and resources to moonlight as a caped crusader, hmm sounds legit. A crime city cut off from the rest of the country, hmm seems legit.
+MemoriesLP
your criticism sounds hollow. He doesn't like Shonen manga (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) which is similar to Marvel movies but anime/manga is more than that (Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Monster, Shamo, Death Note, Paranoia Agent,...)
@@XellDincht Still, the vast majority of anime/manga relies on fantasy or science fiction to some extent. The only exceptions to this are usually slice of life anime, which more often than not are really boring
@@dominickperez2952
Anime is a medium, you will find all kind of genre. Marvel movies are pretty popular right now. It would be stupid if i would say just because of superhero movies make a lot of cash there is nothing but superhero movies
@@XellDincht There are all kinds of genres in anime, but most follow similiarish formula's within those genre's influenced by the culture which is heavily invested into these kinds of things. Not that it matters though, since a large chunk of the animation industry focuses on fantasy/sci-fi. The point the OP made was that Pewdiepie's point that "You won't get super powers" is in it of itself shallow because anime more often than anime, a medium he enjoys, is heavily based on completely unrealistic and impossible concepts
The biggest hypocritical point Felix made was *"Marvel's Cultist Fandom";* Bruh...has he seen any Anime (which he constantly compared it to) Fandom....ever!? 😅😅😅
Or you know, his own fandom.
Nifa Sian lol
@李伊涵 you forgot the Daddy, DBZ and super!
李伊涵 wtf, that's messed up, and erenxlevi?, What are they smoking?
has he seen the toxic star wars fan base lmao
"It's always good guy wants peace and bad guy wants destruction. They're all the same." That's like describing comedy movies as "funny stuff happens." With vagueness like that, no shit, but that ignores what makes the movies different. It's the characters, story points, pacing, direction, writing, and all kinds of other shit. Doctor Strange and Captain America: The First Avenger for example aren't even close to the same movie outside of that "good guy wants peace, bad guy want destruction" bullshit. Also what about the Guardians of the Galaxy? They don't really fall under "good guy wants peace." They're only the good guys for selfish reasons unless you count Groot. Sure they do become less selfish at the end of the movie but for the most part they were in it for themselves.
Special effects have been around for as long as movies have been made. The truck flip in The Dark Knight, which by the way is "good guy wants peace, bad guy wants destruction", is a special effect. Special effects isn't the problem, it's their result. Let's look at Thanos for example. He looks amazing and he's entirely CGI. Yeah, if it looks like shit it's kind of a problem but if it looks good then how's it a problem. I agree that CGI should only be used when practical effects are impossible for what you're trying to achieve but sometimes CGI is necessary. Could you imagine how shitty Iron Man would look if done with only practical effects?
Every fandom has "cultists" and Marvel is one of the biggest fandoms there is so no shit people were fucking excited for the next Marvel movie. I know this happened 10 months after his video, but that New Zealand mosque shooter said "Subscribe to PewDiePie" before shooting the mosque up so PewDiePie clearly has actual cultists fans, it's fucking ironic.
So having people to look up to fictional characters leaves a negative impact? Who the fuck idolizes superheroes for their powers anyway? Maybe a small child, but other than that I can't think of anyone. I don't idolize Captain America because he's super strong and has a cool shield, I idolize him because he's courageous.
What does Michelle Obama, or anyone for that matter, have to do with fucking anything? Yeah, a bunch of black people got excited for Black Panther because they were getting a black superhero movie. What's your point, PewD's? That's like arguing that Last Jedi is bad and instead of going after the writing, direction, plot holes, and other shit that actually matters in a fucking movie, you use comments by SJWs calling you sexist for not liking the movie. That has nothing to do with fucking anything.
Dude...
Pretty much all these points were in the video, outside of the ones that weren't.
Nice
So flipping trucks makes movies good? You know they flipped a truck In civil war, right?
that different because it's marvel so it bad
I’m pretty sure it was sarcasm
@The Marauder yeah it was sarcasm lol
@The Marauder yes I know. I’m I’m telling you he was being sarcastic
@The Marauder u fking idiot
Imagine criticising marvel but not doing any research on the movies
Smash exactly
Many Maria111 so your saying captain america winter soldier a political thriller were the villians theme is made up of his screams after falling to his death is the same movie as thor ragnarok where jeff goldbloom calls thor sparkly fingers
Many Maria111 you do know you watch movies before criticizising them not after
Many Maria111 Did you seriously just complain that the protagonist winning in the end makes them all the same? Have you ever watched a movie? Or read a book? Or engaged with any media ever? Nearly all media ends with the protagonist winning.
Many Maria111 dude, he asked in the video “can there be a superhero film that questions whats right and whats wrong” when Civil War literally does that the whole film. He even misinterpreted the dark knight quote he used as an example of a film that does with “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian” when that is simply foreshadowing Harvey’s change into Two-Face. He’s wrong.
I like how a lot of PewDiePie's points also apply to him
Like the whole fan base thing
Ikr!
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It annoys me but I still like Pewdiepie
Ha
Pewdiepie gives off the “I don’t watch TV, I read BOOKS” kinda vibe with his arguments
And he actually read books than watching movie he stated it on his videos
On the race thing...
I'm black, and when i was growing up, I always felt left out because I didn't know there were people I could dress up as. All the superheroes that were marketed the most were usually white guys.
Then I found out about green lantern, Cyborg, Static shock, and others, but they by far weren't the most popular heroes.
The reason black panther is cool is because now, kids growing up have a black hero, (scratch that, a CAST of black heroes) they can have and look up to who are super popular. "I don't have to look as hard as my dad did for characters who look like me."
And I think that's fucking cool.
dude serioulsy? im a latino
i couldn't name a latino superhero as a kid, but i didn't care i would dress up as anyone i wanted
You are all missing my point. It doesn't matter if it's a fictional character, if you don't look like the person you're dressing aas it will always feel, to a degree, disingenuous. Also, Blue Beetle, Bane, So Diablo, El Dorado, Firebrand, Iman, Agony, Armadillo, Cheetah, Darwin, and many others are Latino. And there were alot of black superheroes, but my point is, there weren't that many minority superheroes that were well known enough for anyone to know who I was when I dressed up as them. Yes, I'm aware that anyone "can" dress up as a fictional character, but if there's a black Thor, or a white Black panther, Immediately, you don't associate them with the character, you associate them with a racially incorrect VERSION of the character. All I'm saying is, having racially diverse superheroes is a good thing. One, because there are a million of them in the comics, and they're all cool characters, so why shouldn't they get theatrical releases? And Two, because its a lot more believable to see black Latino Asian etc superheroes, than "Oh hey people have superpowers but they're mostly just white guys".
Dai kon great point. I gotta say though, Static was an absolute boss when I watched his show in the early 2000’s (coming from a white guy). I’d love to see a live action Static if DC could pull their shit together.
@@brendansmith5529 Maaaan, with the current state of DC, they'd probably make it a blacklivesmatter heavy, racism focused social justice warrior show.
I get your point completely. When ï was growing up, I felt a type of diconnect while dressing up as characters that i liked but didnt resemble and I loved, LOVED the hype for black panther, especially because I live in England and society here goes out of its way to not cause a scene (except during the world cup, still emotional about it, don't @ me) and I didn't expect the hype to affect us across the pond but I was wrong. I dunno. I'm rambling, ignore me. Forget I said anything.
According to pewdiepie, he’s never heard of a “sequel” before
True 🤣
His point wasn’t that marvel produces too many movies. His point was that marvel milks everything out of every hero
@Nova the problems is not too many movies the problem is that those too many movis are getting repetitive (mainly phase 3), the 2 spiderman films, ragnarok, black panther, ant man 2 and captain marvel feels and looks they could be directed by the same person, they have no style.
@@aryarizky222 *Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and many others want your location*
@@PrimeTime_Pictures yeah...and? i was talking about the majority of phase 3. Cap2 and Guardians is phase 2 when Mcu still care about making some good movie, instead of treating movies like check lists and future sets ups and the lack of syle and looks the same (except Gurdians2 and DocStrange
So flipping a truck is more impressive than: digitally creating an entire city so well that most people didn't realize it was digital, Bucky swiping that motorcycle in Civil War (which was 100% practical), the INCREDIBLY realistic costumes and armors of the characters, the endless numbers of action stunts done by the cast, and the passionately detailed bits of the totally CGI characters.
Sure. . . .
It's the classic " *EWW, CGI!!! MuH pRaCtIcAl EfFeCtS!!!* " complaint.
Robust Titan if it was actual bad cgi I would agree with him
*cough cough spider-mans suit, black panther final scene cough cough*
I never knew that city was fake. I thought was a real city with cgi damage like this guy says. Holy shit that’s awesome. I like PewDiePie, but, MAN is he wrong on this one.
@@nonamepen4326 The spider-man suit imo isn't the worst but yeah...the black panther final battle was terrifying...but new spiderman the trippy scene with mysterio was incredible.
Pewdiepie: at least Naruto worked hard for his powers 😌
Naruto: * literally a descendant of ancient all powerful beings and f born from two of powerful and successful families *
I don’t agree with pewds but having the nine tails messed up his chacra control so he had to work harder to get stronger until the seal was removed. though I don’t like neji’s fight with naruto cause if naruto won without the nine tails it would have been him proving birth right doesn’t matter. But he just won with nine tails chacra that is the exception that I agree with you
@@therandommann5351 I disagree with you on neji vs naruto fight srry
@@raphaelbrown6314 naruto vs neji is honestly one of the worst fights. You're telling me, Naruto gets the stuffing beaten out of him for 99% of the fights, has all his attacks reflected back at him, and has all his charkra points closed down and he wins with one punch to the jaw? Its very cheap.
@@raphaelbrown6314 FACTS. It’s almost comical how he’s looked at as a hard worker when he’s the descendant of a god lol. Like look at rock lee
And many MCU characters work hard for theres as well. For example Docter strange. Iron man. Etc
"There cheering for a guy in a suit"
Probably because he's a celebrity
It is like that at every panel at comic con
and its weird, i love scott pilgrim vs the world, itsmy favorite movie, doesnt mean im gonna scream if i see michael cera on the street, hes a person, not a fucking million goldbars
Yeah he thinks he is just a guy in a suit.
that depend on each individual , did you see star treck fanbase? korean - nippo idols fans? nazi fans? fucking american presidents fans? sports fan? religions fan?
did you see Wagons with towerlike structure of 4 meter trasporting a girl dress like a madonna waving to the mass of ppl screaming and crying? did you see the pope dress like a fucking tend being adolized ?
are you telling me that you didn't live in this world in the last 10'000 years?
El Bandito except Tom Hiddleston wasn’t on the street. He was literally at an event where people are MEANT to cheer. Demonizing people for that is silly.
Lmao isn't civil war and the entire discourse of the break up of avengers caused by an argument on whether their actions right or wrong, or just tony's arc
Man felix I usually like your opinions but this is 🤦🏻♀️
MidnightCanvas Im pretty sure he just didnt watch the movies he’s critiquing
@@panduino2156 he probably watched iron man, Captain America and Thor, where his formula does apply (although a little less in Thor since Loki is less motivated by "chaos" as he is by wanting to impress his dad), and assumed that "hey, a few of these origin stories have similar-is trends, the other 20 or so must be exactly the same."
@@thebuddercweeper Technically Iron Man/Tony Stark doesn't have any superpowers and neither does the villain, but I'm just nitpicking
@@J3009 true.
14:22 A Superhero movies that tackles what really is good and what is evil? Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War. Between the government and One’s own sense of justice. The fact that Shield a force of good was infiltrated by Hydra or how the Avengers heroic actions caused a lot of lives even made villains. The whole thing with Bucky struggling between the evil hes done when he was brainwashed. Black Panther as well in fact learning from the villain and rejecting the old ways of his ancestors which he thought to be good. In fact no other superhero movie is comparable.
Also to an earlier point Doctor Strange and Iron Man worked hard for their powers plus the Guardians, Black Widow and Hawkeye are mostly just well trained fighters exception on Guardians Mantis and Groot.
Pewdipie has maybe watch some of the movies once or twice with mostly disinterest not catching on to themes. He acts like its “controversial” to hate on Marvel when its actually pretty common. People are gonna react if you say you dont like or hate something they love it’s natural.
Honestly, Winter Soldier tears apart pretty much all of his arguments. Especially the part about special effects.
@@Zenn_Chan True. Forget TDK.
666melodeath666 didn’t Black Panther technically cover that as well?
Gracekim1 I mentioned Black Panther....
Even Infinity war tackles that point when looking at Thanos' motives. Sometimes you need to cull a portion of a population in order to maintain life within an ecosystem. It is "evil", but also mercy from a certain point of view.
Pewdewpie:they cannot kill iron man
Disney:are you sure about that