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Thanks for not ruining your good video with music-noise.
I bought two, one in this beige and one in the red. Up to 600km on the beige one now and it's freed up a bit, still on standard tyres but have done some dry green lanes around my way. Today fitted YSS rear shocks, smaller rack and centre rack and have some trail tyres to go on next week. It's been fun around the back lanes out my way and I'm looking forward to doing a few overnight trips on it. Great service from seven Seas, highly recommended
Baffled by Honda for not bringing this bike to the UK. Would love one and seriously considering importing one from seven seas.
I think they got scared off by the lackluster sales on the cub and are afraid of spliting that even further.
@@thomasmckenna2218 yeah, could be something like that I guess. Considering the hunter cub was born by a company custom fitting a cub to be off road must tell Honda that there is a desire for these bikes.
In the late 70's & early 80's I think nearly every kid on my council estate in northern England 1st biking experience was on a Honda pig as its always been called. My next door neighbour had one that he used for work. Me & his son were the same age & when his dad had been for a few pints on a Sunday afternoon, he'd go to bed to sleep it off. That's when we'd "borrow his & go mental on it 😂 over the local quarry. Probably some of the happiest days of our lives. Didn't realise it at the time but the laughs we had were none stop. I moved ont a DT 175 then an XT 350. Now a fossil in his mid 50's I look at comfort 1st & foremost & only ride in decent weather. But I can't praise this little Honda bikes enough. They're brilliant & for the life of me I can't understand why Honda aren't bringing this bike to the UK. With just about everyone feeling the pinch with fuel & everything else flying up in price. I believe this bike would do so well over here. Anyways great video mate looking forward to hearing about your journey's on the bike.
I like the subdued beige colour, it's more understated than the commoner bright red frame.
Thanks for posting.
I didn't have this model but I bought a brand new Wave 110 in Thailand in 2001. It had electric start but a drum brake in the rear which functioned very well, especially in the wet; paid the equivalent of 1.000 US $ for it. I rode it almost 70.000 km in nine years, only replaced the ususal parts like tires, brake pads, chain and sprockets and of course changed the oil regularly. The chain lasted forever inside the enclosed box. Around 40.000 km it wouldn't start, it needed a new spark plug, after that it ran again. Never checked the valves.
These kind of bikes are extremely reliable, simple, meaning easy to repair, and durable. But for 4.500 pounds I'd get another Honda, maybe a CRF300L or even a CB500F.
Yes all the base Hondas are reliable these days. Sounds like you had some good adventures on the 110. With the CT you're paying a lot for the badge as the architecture is largely the same. But some will value that novelty, some won't.
I used to have Honda Cub back in 80s as a teenager, this video reminded me of that time. Thanks for sharing 👍. AA karachi Pakistan 🇵🇰.
We need this in the uk. We also need Yamaha to update the shaft drive Townmate and provide some competition/consumer choice.
Remember the townmate, only ever had 1 but just as good has the c90. Had plenty of 90s
Remember only paying £30 for one. Blimey wish kept few of them, more so price they fetching
Remember the townmate, only ever had 1 but just as good has the c90. Had plenty of 90s
Remember only paying £30 for one. Blimey wish kept few of them, more so price they fetching
I have brought the same postie but in red. I got mine because of your videos, your a absolute legend. I love riding mine its so much fun
I do like these. With fuel prices set to go sky high in the future we will be looking at things like this and bicycles of course.
I've got a couple of thousand on one. In Australia. It is pricey for what you get but it's built so well and the practicality is something else. Can confirm, has a crap chain that needs tightening a lot. Other than that, it's fantastic for what I use it for. Good for the work commute with a bunch of stuff in a milk crate on the rack, and it eats up dirt trails like nobody's business.
As soon as I get my current dirt bike paid for, this might be next bike. I think it would be a great around-the-farm bike and small and light enough to put on the R.V bumper as camper bike.
I’d love to have one in the garage but I doubt id want to pay £4500 for it. I understand the cost is high due to it being an import, but it’s too much considering the price they sell it for abroad. For that price I’d be looking at a XSR125 or a CRF250L. Hopefully people like yourself buying them anyway will show Honda that there is a market for the bike here. Hope it brings a massive smile to your face when you do get out on it 😁
How times have changed my new GPZ550 only cost £2100
I know £4500 sounds alot but for official UK bikes Honda want just over £4k for the Monkey and £3800 for the Supercub.
So if Honda did bring the CT to the UK it woukd definitely cost over £4k so i think an otr price of £4500 for an imported bike is fair.
Big box on the back would replace the car for the weekly shop, would have to go the off road route to the supermarket though 👍🏻
I shop on my honda sh300, tesco
That looks amazing, would buy one if it was cheaper , but that said, looks like a good investment and could pass it onto the boy when he's old enough
I see 7seas email box being a little clogged on Monday.
I saw one of these in Brighton in the summer. They look great
Nice review. I've got a 125 Supercub and have added a small rack and top box which I think makes it a practical bike but although others have taken theirs off road don't think I will.
The chain on mine is made of cheese so be prepared.
I'd love a kick start on mine as there have been some issues with the battery.
Quite a few differences as the cub has a drum rear brake.
That's a cracking little bike! Did you mention the wet-weight? Looking forward to you taking this on some adventures!! After Lands-End what about some Icelandic touring? Would love to see the look on the GS riders faces when you rock up on this at the ferry!
Gearbox setup is the same as it's always been on the cubs, so presumably Honda just left it as is for the CT. It's very intuitive when you're used to it, I find it good for slipping the clutch on down changes with my heel
Thanks for the upload. Damn that bike is way too clean.
10:00 This type of gear change is standard on motorcycles in Asia. I had an imported CG125 - same gear change - easy to use.
Looking forward to having a go... hope we can arrange a date!
Nice review Nathan, can't wait to see what you think of them once you get out on the road.
Me neither. Hopefully the docs come through soon!
An interesting contender for my 7 mile commute ! 👍There's a nice metal box for the rear rack available too ! 🤔
For that money, buy the Himalayan !
Nice bike, that's a shame they don’t have it here in the UK
It’s a grey import. Honda should be officially bringing them in
Great to come across you on You Tube. I've just read a third book of yours.
As for the pricing on the 125 ???
Mate ! That's close to the Royal Enfield Himalayan.
Prefer the CT over the Royal Enfield though!
Ps if you look in the tool kit there's a piece of wire that loops under the lockable seat that you can lock your crash helmet on the bike.pps the bike holds .8 of a litre of oil be very careful you don't overfill with the 1-litre size.
I bought one here in Thailand to carry on my sailboat …it is a fantastic bike . Cost new 93,000 Baht about £2200 I found the gear change a bit rough …until I realised that the initial movement is a clutch !!!!! No one had told me that when I bought it .
Are they still available at this price in Thailand?
Another excellent overview from a man in the know!!
Had an innova for 12 yrs totally indestructible. Chain wear the bug bear. Got xmax with belt drive now honda sh300 with belt drive. Cruise at 70 what a scoot! Like a honda 90 with turbo😁😁😁
nice adventure bike togo round the world ! what to change are chain and sprockets to Yamaha DT 200 ( bigger and stronger ) like i did to my 2017 Grom .
I can’t believe that Honda is not going to sell them on the european market 🙈
Me neither
Far to expensive for what is effectively a rebadged Chinese bike imo though I suspect the crazy (European) price has a lot to do with the Euro 5 specs which hike the price a lot for any motorcycle sold in Europe, if I bought one the first thing to go would be the restrictive exhaust system and the abs.
@@georgebarnes8163 The price is what it is because it's being brought in by a private import company, who will obviously have higher unit costs to cover and who also need to make a healthy margin to justify the punt they made on bringing in the first 25 bikes (I believe they've sold 75 so far so there's definitely a market for them, even at this price point.
@@nathanthepostman I understand, but the point I am making is that these bikes are just Chinese bikes rebranded which is something that Honda should not be doing, they are not Japanese just cheapo clones with a crazy price tag , If I pay for a Honda I expect to get a Honda not just a Honda badge on a cheapo Chinese bike. I can buy a lot better for 4.5 K and then some in the form of a real Honda.
@@georgebarnes8163 I don't quite get what you mean about them being Honda clones. They're built by Honda in Thailand. They were designed by Honda. They are Hondas. Admittedly, they're a long way away from the Japanese built bikes of old, but bar Fireblades and maybe some of the other high end machines from my understanding none of the Honda range is built in Japan anymore.
The super bike of Australia post. Especially those with a snorkell a fantastic machine
I want one of these, but no paying seven seas prices, also u dont even get a honda warranty..Will get one when these come down to 3k. so ive just put trail tyres on my 2006 suzuki FL125 .. Also it has a small factory front screen, rugged back rack.. a gear indicator.. small engine guard, proper oil filter and even injection.. just £600 . Honda could have added a proper oil filter and gear change indicator for the price.. ........... .. thanx for the video...much appreciated.. Nr Manchester UK
Hopefully some resellers will decide to import this great bike in Italy too!
I also have a beige CT125 from Seven seas. Had it a month now and done 850km's, so run in, I've been getting 163mpgwhilst running in. Tank holds 5.3 ltrs (only 3.7ltrs on the super cub) so range is 180 miles. Shame the speedo is in km's but you quickly get used to it. Yop speed so far is 102kmph (circa 65mph) on a flat without wind (albeit not checked it with Satnav). All in all a great little bike
You may be able to alter the Speedo to mph using the Buttons on the unit.
What’s the build quality like, are they like the c90, which I had many in my time.
@@tub19 Build Quality is great and superior to any bike produced in the past.
did u get it for £4,500 aswell? im saving up for the green one
After nearly 40 Australia Post in my area are trading out their Honda CT's for electric tricycles. Speaking to my postie it seems the efi models were not as durable or reliable as the older carburettor models. My old CT 110 should start appreciating any day now. Probably should take the flower pots of the seat and dig the weeds out of the rims.
Hi Nathan - my bike from Seven Seas is also tan but I have seen a pale snot green on the web in Thailand - presumably brought out in recognition of Covid!
It’s worth mentioning that the oil capacity is only 700ml - I had a litre in mind so I wasted a couple of hours sorting out an oil change at 150miles!! This small volume will obviously have a bearing on those frequent and necessary oil checks you mention, especially if the bike is being run at full throttle for long periods
Actually I was not really correct about the oil capacity - it is 900ml but only 700ml can be drained out under normal circumstances
@@Kathikas1 Don't worry, my 110 didn't burn a drop of oil after 70.000 km and Thais usually change oil every 10.000 km, if even.
These bikes are basically impossible to buy in the United States, because they are sold before they make it to the show room. They are selling for as much as $5600.00 here in the States. I'm still riding my 1973 CT-90 but I would love to buy one of these CT-125. There are none at any Honda Dealerships.
I bet you'll get more than 125 mpg. I also reckon oil consumption will be better on this than the 110. That's based on oil consumption on the Honda Wave 125i I ran for a week in Thai heat. It didn't use any. I couldn't get on with the gearchange, though, which was just like the modern CT's. The CT125 is a handsome machine. It looks better in beige than red. Never seen a green one. I wish Honda would do a Monkey with 15'' wheels and a 150 engine. I'd buy it as a runaround in northern Thailand.
60-65 kms to the liter is reported. Thats around 160-185 mpg imperial. Or 1,5-1,7 liters pr 100 kms. Similar to the new CB125F 2021.
Reminds me of the old 90s step through ,, love it ,, had about 6 of them and couple of 50s and two 70s great bikes cheers shane uk 🇬🇧
The kickstart is a bonus, the Groms etc have never had them. Obviously a FI bike wont thumb start on a flat battery, but these little 110/125 EFI Honda engines will kick start on a dead battery.
Handy...
Ive got a suzuki fl 125 06 model efi.. proper oil filter and kickstart.. gear indicator.. screen, rear rack trail tyres.. just £600.. not paying the price of £4500 for one of these ct125
I seem to offer a public service collecting nails and screws from the UK’s roads so one of my priorities is to make the rear wheel, at least, tubeless. There are some tasty laced rims in Thailand but getting hold of them may be a bridge too far (River Kwai?) and I will go down the DIY route
I am still struggling with the gear box and always looking for 5th gear. I wonder if a 37tooth rear sprocket might work for the road riding I do and avoid ABS warnings due to fiddling with the front sprocket. My pension has just been blown on an OPMID Multimeter to replace the oem instrument which may cure both issues as well as giving an mph readout
It certainly is a great fun ride and the folks at Seven Seas Motors (Mark and mucker Sharon) have been great to deal with
Hi Tony, I also have one from Seven Seas, just getting used to he gear box set up, to be honest found it a bit of a pain lol. But love the bike. I would be intret to hear if your new clock allows MPH? Not sure why it wont let us change to MPH ! Cheers
@@venturabiker1 Yes it does, amongst a few other things …
You do NOT want tubeless. Hit a pothole or sharp edge like a gutter and it's INSTANT deflate. Not good when your doing 60 Km/hr or more.
@@itchyvet That is almost exactly what happened to me in northern Greece a couple of years ago except it much faster than 60kph and the smash injured both my thumbs and dented the front rim both sides - no deflation of the tyre at all and I was happy not to be sitting at the roadside repairing a snakebite to a tube after a rapid deflation … tubeless is the way to go for me
Lovely small motorcycle.
Bye Stuart 🙂
I’m lead to believe a replacement clock is available and it has the gear indicator not 100% but fairly sure
I was just wondering about the hi-lo box and then you said it doesn't have it! I have a CT90 Trail imported from the US that will be my next project, and that has all the interesting things you mentionned, except the removeable spare fuel tank - gutted as they are a flippin' FORTUNE to buy now! I'll be srapping on something suitable rather than shelling out £300 for a genuine "canteen"😳
My FTR (also from Seven Seas!) has a similar tool box but uses the key for opening/locking. Wonder why they didn't do that.
I also have one from Seven Seas, great service and love the bike. The upsidedown gear change is getting some used to, the engine has had a few shocks shifting the wrong way. USA bike might have the gears the way we a used to, according to the manual it suggests up for first, also watched a UA-cam vid from the state's and I'm sure he clicked up for first? If so I'm wondering if there is an easy fix.
*I've noticed over the last 4.5 years that the liquid-cooled 50cc engine on my 'Metropolitan scooter never loses any oil despite being 'wide-open throttle' 90% of the time I'm riding it*
*It does get 'cruddy' at about a 1K miles worth of use, but I'm certain it would last another 500 at least* *I always change it, tho* )
*In a 'pinch' I bet I could use some paper coffee filters to 'strain it' and put the full-synthetic 10/40 right back in again!*
Looks good but really needs to be around the 3k mark, hopefully they sell a few and honda take notice & bring it here , At £4500 I think there is too much competition but sure it will attract people who can afford one for fun.
I think realistically it's never going to be that low, not when the Chinese brands are getting close to £3k. The new monkey is £3900 which gives some indication of where Honda would price it if it did come here. I'd say £4200, but in an ideal world a lot less just to get new riders interested rather than premium price it for the second bike brigade.
@@nathanthepostman guess the new supercub is £3500 new so honda would want a little more for the CT, I suppose realistically most "New" bikers are in their 30s & 40s so they have a little more spare money so it makes sense, most 125 riders in Nottingham are probably deliveroo riders I do see people on monkey bikes & groms but all older riders.
@@deanroberts2021 I think probably what Honda needs in order to get more young riders is an electric version with a decent range and a realistic price tag. But can't see it happening any time soon.
@@nathanthepostman from young people I work with in Notts I'd say young people getting into motorbikes is pretty unlikely as always parents don't want their kids to have bikes , Muslims, Indian kids want BMW's or AUDI's & from people I speak to seem to of found a loophole where you can have a provisional license but show up as & insure as a full license (no idea how or what would happen if they have a crash) or have cars insured on multicar under one legal driver with other illegal drivers using each car .
We seem to have reached the point where 125s are not the cheap option for teenagers anymore.
I need one in my life
I was really excited when Honda (re)launched this bike. AND THEN I FOUND OUT IT WASN'T COMING HERE! :(
Oh well.... :)
Does anyone have any idea what a realistic top/cruising speed is for these? Bear in mind, I'm what you'd call a fat knacker...
Same question for the Himalayan as well? I like travelling to/round Scandinavia and have previously done those trips on a 1050 Tiger and a 1200 Explorer, now want something cheaper/lighter, but don't fancy sitting at 65 or 70 on the inevitable motorway bits I'd have to do.
What do you expect from an air-cooled, SOHC 2-valve 125?
@@PrimoStracciatella I’ve no idea, hence me asking the question.
55mph max speed
First what is the front fork travel like, I'm a big lad and may need to upgrade the springs or put a pre loader on. Can you lift the handle bars at all? What are the best off/on road tyres for this machine, I want to do some green lane riding in Yorkshire and nearby. I'm sorry honda but I think the Super Cub looks awful in that grey with red seats. And yes I started on a C100 in 1969, bought for £10 with a seized engine, 4 hours work and a new piston and ran beautifully for another 5 years.
20 Kg of beer on the back rack...cheers
Great bit of info for getting one although I think the market for one here is one that Honda can’t ignore it’s selling so well everywhere else maybe they have played it canny regarding supply to there nearest and biggest customers first and then when that market slows Europe and U.K. may well follow. I keep my fingers crossed. This bike runs without a battery so it gets a kick start for in that event but the super cub wont run without a charged battery because it’s keyless so needs electric power supply. Regarding indication of neutral, does the N on the display light up in neutral?
Also when you stop, say at traffic lights, does the gear go straight to Neutral automatically? Thanks for your presentation it was very good. And yes I hit all the buttons
Yeah, overtighten any chain will stretch it out in no time flat, and likely wreck the sprockets too. There is a tendency to over tighten chains when on the stand as they look slack with the rear unloaded. Read the book of works and set slack on the loose end of the numbers given. A good chain will not stretch as much because it is stronger but if overtightened will wear out the sprockets.
Agree. in 3000 miles only needed to tighten slightly, the chain when oiled regularly and with correct tension will last.
Really like this but hefty price tag ! under stand the premium though.....If it was better priced I would go for one !
Stood next to a super cub in the showroom it's not a choice. Honda have made a very strange decision. Shame. But great bike. Looking at a chaps trip next year.
Happy travels
Been around the world on Lisa stanfields rack wahey!!!
I like that, it’s got a nice retro style to it. I would like one but at 4.5k it’s a bit pricey. I’ll stick to my 70s puches 😂 they do feature on my channel. I’ve just subbed you. Good video 🙂👍
Is there any more news on if Honda is bringing this in later this year?? Its a baffling decision.
Is it possible to adjust the front brake on the Honda CT125? I have a lot of play in my front brake lever, and it does not feel right.
Would using the tip of the ignition key help to pry out the Allen key? Also, I imagine a piece of string could be tied around the Allen key as a pull tab.
This bike is £1850 in Thailand at current exchange rate £500 ish for shipping, However a containerful would cost around only two or three times that. If you're a business in the UK and VAT exempt that's great, but if not you'll have to pay duty and with VAT on shipping costs that is a whopping 23.5% extra in tax. A bike less than 6 months old with less than 3.8k on the clock is 'considered' new by HMRC even if it's had three or four previous owners.
So in 6 months and a few baht to a man in BKK who's really good with oddometers and will no doubt provide you with a backdated bill of sale from an approved dealer, let alone a franchise for a few baht more. A second hand 'as new' grey import. for less than £2500?
Yeah for sure, if you have a man in Bangkok, who's handy at fudging odos, and who will sort out the shipping at that end, then you could definitely get one a bit cheaper. But then you've got to add in costs in collecting from docks, MSVA, first registration fee, numberplate, and by the time you're done you've sailed well over £3k. Containers have also gone through the roof since Covid. Quadrupled to over £10k for a big one from Asia by all accounts. Someone will have to self import and prove what it can be done for. I reckon if they can do it for less than £3500 I'll buy them a pint.
yes indeed so seven seas charging £4500 is a piss take
The only thing missing is a fully enclosed chain guard.
I would have bought one if Honda was sold them here in UK.
Niw it’s 5k via 7seas, which is a bit of a strech for me to what it is.
Hi again , the rolling chassis on this bike ... same/very similar to the 1970's Honda C50/70/90 as in pressed steel under the plastics with conventional forks instead of pressed steel leading links ? If yes .. just a thought .. would the C50 etc fully enclosed chain guard/cover fit ? - would keep the crap off the chain and maybe get a few more miles from the chain .. just a thought !
I can just see that allen key going missing and you won't know it until you need it!!!! How would it be possible to fit a seat cushion or luggage over the rear rack if it has the breather box air inlet there? Would you need to carry a spare chain with you on your travels and if the chain is poor quality are the sprockets also poor quality?
Was the ct110 the original ever imported to the uk by Honda? I don’t remember ever seeing one out and about?
Love the color
Kickstart is absolutely necessary on a bike with a centrifugal clutch,!! How else can you start it in the middle of nowhere if your battery starts getting low...
89,000 baht in Thailand for a 23 model , about 2100 gbp
Waiting for the CT125 here in the Philippines.
These are about 2k English over here in TH.
I have seen a couple out and about, i like them.
But they are nowhere near as popular as the Dreams, Cubs and especially the Waves, which retail from around 900 to 1200 Quid depending on spec.
The Super Cub?
Only ever seen them.in Honda big bike showrooms.
Not in normal Honda bike shops , and never seen one out on the road.
They just dont sell here, especially at 3k English which is 500 Quid shy of a new CRF300L....
No there not! Yes, they do?
£3680,- English! GBP
About 2000 pounds, which equals 90.000 THB? That's crazy, no wonder nobody buys them!
And only in Honda Big Wing showrooms? Even the CRF250M I had a few years ago was too small for being in there.
But 900 - 1200 (41.000 - 55.000THB) seems a bit cheap for a Wave. I paid 40.000 THB for a Wave 110 in 2001 and prices have risen at least 20% since then.
It needs a kick start because if the battery is dead you can't roll it and pop the clutch.
I'm really keen in these.
Not coming to Canada either sadly.
Why not put an Alien let on your key ring with the bike key.
its my dream bike when they will introduce in india ... lot of potential for this in india
Hi Nathan,
Really interested that you bought one, as I thought you might given your time on the old 110. I was originally from Leeds, but now I live in NZ. I have just sold my 650 burgman and whilst I liked it, really heavy. I fancy one of these, but wonder about the gear box and change. I would be really interested to know what extras you would add to turn it into an adventure bike. Have a look at a guys on you tube from Aussie 'Warro' I think. cheers Mate Mike
Thanks, that was really interesting.
If they sold them in the uk for 3800, or whatever the monkey is, surely they would sell well.
Instead of the expensive monkey I bought a Benelli TNT 125 for 2 grand brand new it's awesome had it 2 years
I watched a Super Cub video a while ago, that said the gear shifting was designed that way, so businessmen wouldn’t ruin their smart shoes by toe shifting!
Ha. Yes, I heard the same thing. Thing is, the ct110 has the heel and toe and is conventional (up for up) and can all be done with sole of the foot, so not sure why it's inverted for cub derived bikes
Hi , silly question ... but I will ask anyway , the gearshift - all down - old brit bike style without the 1 up/also known as race bike shift again without the 1 up - you said that you can go from 4th to neutral , can this only be done when stationary ? or when you are riding ie you are in 4th doing 50mph/80kmh and go for another gear(forgetting it only has 4 !) will the bike go into neutral or do nothing/stay in 4th ???
Many Hondas have a small light on the dash showing that the bike is in "top gear". I usually shifted down from 4th, or, when I had to stop quickly, shifted into neutral at very low speeds.
Lovely color!
Hello nat I would love a yam tw200 do you know of anyone importing it. Thanks
Shame there is no hi - lo range like the old ones
A sin!
I do want to get one... but they are still rare as hen's teeth in the US so far. I've heard of people waiting 9 months from ordering one. That could at least partially be due to COVID. We'll see.
Great video and very nice CT125. I prefer the sand colour than the red but £4500 is a lot, although I do understand that this is an import. Will a Honda UK dealer service these import bikes?
I am uk based and looking for one, unfortunately I cannot find any in the uk
I gotta have one!
Nathan the company you mentioned, do they bring it in with the coc papers?
4500, could be worse really, I wonder how far off a Himalayan it is in top speed and 0 to 60 acceleration especially. You could always just cut an Allen key down to key size, glue a key fob on to it and hang it off your keys for the tool box
How long did you have to wait for delivery from Sevenseas?
My CT90 has the same shift pattern (although not cyclical) as the CT125 so maybe the CT110 is the odd one out?
I think it’s a shame they didn’t put a low range on this machine. My old 90 was always in low range off in the woods were there was no trail at all. Too bad. That kind of kills it for me.
I can't understand why Honda are so reluctant to bring this bike in. Anything to encourage motorcycling is a good idea. I think it just shows how behind the curve Honda UK are.
How come honda isnt selling this to UK??