On another note for viewers after using and reviewing them for six seasons. My suggestion would be. Use them the way the come out of the box and get used to them. Then u can tweak them as needed. Levers and high backs. U will be surprised at how responsive they are in stock set up. If u switch the lever be careful on lifts your free foot doesn’t accidentally release it.
UPDATE: I've changed the lever to the inside. Yes it does make it more convenient. HOWEVER, when you have one foot in your binding, your free foot can hit the lever when you are skating. I'm not sure how durable that lever is when taking hits from your boot.
3rd season on my photons, typical all mountain rider , if Any boot pain occurs I personally adjust my stance, and or insoil. They’ve treated me well. Very responsive.
I posted this elsewhere already… But I first saw the MOD here… so… Wow!!! GREAT Idea! I’m fortunate to ride deep powder stashes - in the trees often. The SINGLE complaint/problem I’ve ever had after riding Stepons for a few years now… is the ability to quickly release when you go down, and are stuck in deep powder. Having to reach to the outside to release, has proven to be extremely difficult at times - buried under deep snow. This would be a MASSIVE Safety enhancement to say the least! Thanks!
Six seasons with three sets. Switched them back to the outside as it’s more comfy for me and the way my body leans to reach the levers quicker and more comfy. Also with them switched u gotta be super careful on the lifts so your free foot doesn’t accidentally release the locked in boot. Also the high back really doesn’t make a huge difference in feel if it’s leaning forward. With boots locked in proper, the boot and binding become one solid thing so any movement at all moves the board with instant response. To soften that response it’s more about the boot and how tight in your foot it is.
so no issues with kicking the lever and releasing the binding accidentally while skating or on a lift? Just got these and I cant reach to the outside because short trex arms and dad belly lol
Just set up my bindings. The part about “seeing F2” really helped me dial the forward lean in. FYI: on the bottom of my bindings it said right and left.
I’ve been riding these step on bindings for about a season and a half and I have to say that I never knew you could change where the lever goes (outside of the bindings to the inside of the bindings) I just changed out my setup to reflect that and I can’t wait to see the difference! 🎉 Yew!
@@spyghetti yeah, they really work well, wry practical and easy to get in and out, just glad somebody else switched over and can’t switch back either! 😳
Great video, had helpful info for me even after 5 seasons on the step on set up. Just bought new boots and bindings for 2024 yesterday, shop guys said boot sizes seem tighter/smaller than prior years but at least theyve apparently fixed the clicking noise on the earlier binding models (my prior one was 2018 and click sound was super annoying). Psyched for this winter, thanks for the helpful video!
Setting up with that much forward lean can make it harder to get that second "click" when stepping on, which results in heel lift. The solution is to move the footbed forward an additional notch. I tried moving the levers to the inside and found it harder than on the outside. Your arms are on the outside, so normally they just need to go down to reach the lever. With the lever on the inside they need to go down, across your leg, and inward.
@@Clluthu Some people have experienced that problem, and moving the footbed forward always seems to solve it. If it's not happening for you, great. Just putting the info out there for anyone who experiences it. It's also possible that last season's toe clip update somehow helped.
I'm looking into getting the SO, I'm a boot size 8 which uses the last notch on S binding, if I want to add forward lean, I'll need to go to the M binding?
@@micofok730 No. Mens Size 8 will only work with mens small binding. S,M,L have different distances between the cleat and toe studes, so the toe studs on a mens Size 8 wouldn't reach the toe clips on the mens medium binding. That does mean that you won't be able to move the footbed forward with sizes 8, 10.5 and 12.5. I'd just back off the forward lean until it doesn't cause this problem. Also, going to a stiffer boot can give you heel-side response with less forward lean.
The only time it's difficult is when I'm releasing right binding with left hand. Curious how easy it is to kick yourself out when the lever is on the inside...
Hi Kevin, thanks for the clear explanation, especially inversion of the levers, I had no clue it was possible. It seems just a small update but it will allow snowboarding possible for my son...he has an HANDICAP since his birth and he cannot reach the outside release with his right hand!
I have been using step on bindings for the 3rd season, but I didn't know that you can switch the lever. I am going to try next sometime, thank you for this video
It's a good idea to run the footbed out a half a size if you run that much forward lean. That's probably why you were feeling the slop in the other video. I'd suggest you try running way less forward lean for a half a day or so. I found that you end up not needing it and it makes stepping in harder.
Just got my Burton X Step-On, love the whole construction of it with the 50/50 Carbon. Been using Burton Diode since it first came up 10yrs+ ago and it hasn't failed me besides the binding straps disintegrating due to COVID, but I have replaced them with the new 3D straps that are so awesome. Looking forward to receiving my Ion SO and testing out the increased response! Will definitely test out changing the levers around. Thanks!
Can you please do a video showing the boots and the inner liner? I'm riding the DC control step on boots, but I'm interested in those traditional lace step on boots. I haven't been able to see any pictures videos on the inner liner or locking ankle support, if any. The DC control boots have a pull cord on the liner to secure it. Do these?
I figure using the low 4 hole is the default for the up/down location options but I wish there were 3 locations because one in between would be ideal for me, to be perfectly centered. Both tend to feel biased either way.
Can you make a video for best techniques how to click in on the snow. I found that I couldn’t get 2 clicks on the heel on the snow as there wasn’t enough pressure to fully engage!
Back from a first trip on these (mixed emotions) and they are very convenient but I took a few flat "out of nowhere" edge catches of the sort I haven't had in like 15-20 years. Was getting pretty frustrated at the amount of movement going on but I do think on reflection I wasn't double clicked in the heel sometimes. Realised after a day or so I hadn't adjusted the forward lean and didn't have a suitable screwdriver with me to set that, exactly like you describe. My old bindings are set F4 so I'm hoping bringing that forward helps stabilise the setup. Kind of wish I'd got some of the boots which have an akle boa aswell.
My Burton swath step on boots tighten down completely different from left boot to right boot right foot can't stop my heel from lifting without the boot being uncomfortably tight and the left foot feels perfect most of the time.
Boarding in Aotearoa / New Zealand (and other places with small, quiet or old school resorts) and having the lever on the inside might be annoying when you have to rest your back foot in front of the back binding to ride T-Bar, pommer or nut cracker lifts. I bet it makes it easier to reach but I personally like being able to rest my foot on the board properly when riding lifts or you can end up looking like a real dork 😂 Thank you for the video, I’m really looking forward to giving mine a hoon tomorrow 🙌🏽
Thx a lot. Love your explanation. Think I'm not gonna switch from the outside to the inside, but good to know about the highbacks! Have a good season 🥰
The little one is a #1 most likely and the big one is for sure a #3. Available in standard and longer versions. They are available for sale individually at the big box stores. The #3 can be a little more challenging to find but they are out there.
Phillips #2 is what is needed for the highback adjustment forward lean and a Phillips #3 is standard use for the screws securing the bindings to the board.
This literally blew my mind! I got my step on last week. When I set them up I thought the same thing about switching the lever to the inside of the boot! Great minds brother!
this REALLY helped kev, been riding the step ons for a year now and i had no idea you can adjust the highbacks. looking forward to your feedback while riding. Also just got the bataleon party wave, if you have any thoughts on it please do share! keep it up!!
Does it matter Which screw you used to adjust for Lynn? There appears to be two screws. I love the way. @Burton gives no instructions on how to set up these bindings.
lol the first time I tried it I actually struggled to unlock with the release on the outside. I do a lot of powerlifting and blamed my stupid wide lats :X. in the end I found it easier to just get on my knees to unlock kinda defeats the purpose of easy out, will give swapping them a go next season.
Sadly I can only give one star. Installed last fall and reviewed some vids before going out. First time getting out was a flip'n nightmare. Not only is it hard to reach, if you have any pressure on you heal from reaching over, the lever jams. I did the mod before the snow even had time to melt off my board. :-) maybe you whipper snappers can easily do it, but a 68 I'm not that flexible anymore. :-)
Boarding in Aotearoa / New Zealand (and other places with small, quiet or old school resorts) and having the lever on the inside might be annoying when you have to rest your back foot in front of the back binding to ride T-Bar, pommer or nut cracker lifts. I bet it makes it easier to reach but I personally like being able to rest my foot on the board properly when riding lifts or you can end up looking like a real dork 😂
The silver binding plate screws are usually a PH3 which is philips #3 which isnt a standard size, actually didnt have 1 in my single mechanic's tool set which has 3 screwdriver kits, and screwdriver ratchet bits Was a $10 screwdriver at home depot.... A PH2 WILL STRIP IT OUT
Hey Kevin, were in whistler, first time here for us.. any recommendations of where to go tomorrow.. bit of a storm today, hopefully will be a bit better tomorrow.
@@1984session ok newbie, if you go back to the initial launch of the step ons youll see just how against them kevin had been. Dont stress though i doubt youll have much more engagement on these vids :)
I didn't know about the F-stops on the high-back... Much easier to get them even now; thanks, Kevin!! Left my releases on the outside tho: just feels more natural for me - maybe since I don't do grabs?
Going to help in setting up my GF new bindings. Quick question, what are the negatives of more forward lean and do you recommend it for a new rider (she has about 8 days over the last few years, but we are going to hit 30 next season if we get snow).
Is still a requirement to have a leash installed on the Board binding ? Some areas require them for safety so in case the ski/snowboard releases it doesn’t fall. It will hang on your leg instead risking someone getting hit in the head.
My Burton Snowboard has 3 holes only for the install disc, will the new bindings work for the 3 holes ( I'm sure I have 3 holes only, just double checked) Old left binding just broke Thanks for your responses in advance
Could you please share some thought learning terrain park with Step On? Especially for jibbing. I heard that Step On is so senstivie for the movement of the boots, the room for error could be less than strap bindings. I'm not sure is it good for someone just start learning boardslide.
When I had Cartels, I think I was at F4. But with the Step Ons at F3, I have to do a good stomp or jump to get the second heel click. Resorts nowadays have tool tables, but it's better to setup at home.
I went to the store to try them on and I noticed that there is a short slack when going on the toe edge. I wonder why no one’s is talking about it. And I wonder if it interferes with the toe edge responsiveness
Thanks for posting this video, Kevin. I actually saw a video about how to switch the release levers a week ago and I did it immediately. The release levers WERE my only complaint about the latest Burton step ons. I’ve been riding these binding with the logical placement of those levers for a couple of days now and it makes WAY more sense to have them on the inside for all of the reasons that you mentioned. What was Burton thinking when they made the decision to put those release levers on the outside??
Hi, did you accidentally open your binding or kick the lever while skating or on a lift? I just got the bindings and for fucks sake my arms are just too short to reach the outside lever (and of course my dad belly)
@@nobicepz It seems like I had the same issue as you did with the levers when they were located on the outside of the Burton Step-On bindings. I had a hard time reaching to the outside to release those levers. I've since switched the levers to the inside, as Kevin demonstrates and it's waaaaayyyy better. I think you'd like that and it's easy to swap them. No issues with accidentally kicking the lever while on the lift so far. I love the Burton genesis bindings (2022-2023). I previously bought the Nideckers and hated them in just about every way.
Hey people i need your help! I looked at the Felix So boots with the standard 2024 step on binding. putting the boot in the binding, there was a massive vertical gap of like 10mm between the outside cleat of the shoes, to the holder of the binding. the inside sat nicely against the holder, but the outside will always move down and smash up against the binding when turing on the board. do you know more? we tried different binding sizes and even a different shoe. same issue, just different gap size. but nothing that felt like it would be resposive properly.
The problem I had with the step on bindings was heel lift inside the boot. The first day or two they worked great, and then the boots packed out, and the became a bit too big. If your boots don’t fit exactly right there’s no way to ratchet your ankle back down, where as with strap bindings you can get away with a boot that is a bit too big or packed out. With step on bindings if your boots don’t fit exactly right, it will ruin your day. But if they do fit well step on bindings are actually pretty great.
wow I didn't know you can swap the release mechanism on step on. i always struggle and fall when i have to get out of my bindings. is it safe to swap ?
if you have Burton shoes might try the wide version, not sure if other brands have that option as well. Or just try other brands, I suppose for each type of foot a certain brand might fit better just like different brands of motorcycle helmets fit certain head shapes better.
Kevin, hi. I noticed that you haven't used Burton bindings for a long time. I saw that you used Union, Bent Metal, Nidecker. Why aren't you using the usual Burton bindings, is it a coincidence or is there some reason? I use Cartel X myself and I really like them. By the way, the disk is also fixed on them, and this is very convenient.
For me I know that the Front Binding is near the Wider Nose of the Board. I also know that my Right Boot goes into the front Binding. That was the first thing I learned.
Regarding the highback lean - since the boots are effectively one with the binding there's really no need to adjust it just for response; at that point it's more a matter of what your comfort level is in terms of how your legs are positioned.
When doing a heelside turn it's all highback leverage that does the work. More angle on the highback means more response on heelside. It also means you can't really get your knees straight on catwalks without being forced to your heel edge, so it's a trade off
@@fudhater8592 The heel clip has no bearing at all on heel side turns, only toe side. So unless you only pressure heel side turns by pulling up on your toes, it's all high back.
@@samhunter6813 Not sure where you're getting this information but it's incorrect. You can completely remove the highback and they will still function.
no, no, no! what hand you using to pull that lever to get out of the binding? you will need to use you right hand to release the left binding a vice versa, if you try to release the right binding with the right hand you will be reaching over the leg you are trying to lift, do not do that folks.
@@samhunter6813 no..... the base and backing are directional.... so the sticker doesnt change, just the lever location.... Gotta think, your left shoe doesnt become a right shoe just because you change the laces, theres a shape to the shoe The lever retainer plates are likely symmetrical so they can cut production cost on the lever assembly, but the levers are either forward or reversed which just swaps which way the bolt/nut go into the hole, and depending on the design of a product, it wont often matter on a bolt/nut application which side the bolt/nut are on as long as theyre both there (as a mechanic) Of course there are applications where it could matter and you want the bolt directional to prevent it from backing out on itself.... say a left-hand-thread bolt which is lefty-tighty instead of lefty-loosey but if the bolt is the same thread orientation on both the forward and the mirror, then the threads likely dont have the potential to back themselves out
ua-cam.com/users/shortsXi7GXNW0MAs?feature=share do you have any issues like this? I only get it when I wear the boots on foot. annoying when I put it on my side pow board I can feel it in the snow. on my park board I barely feel it
On another note for viewers after using and reviewing them for six seasons. My suggestion would be. Use them the way the come out of the box and get used to them. Then u can tweak them as needed. Levers and high backs. U will be surprised at how responsive they are in stock set up.
If u switch the lever be careful on lifts your free foot doesn’t accidentally release it.
UPDATE: I've changed the lever to the inside. Yes it does make it more convenient. HOWEVER, when you have one foot in your binding, your free foot can hit the lever when you are skating. I'm not sure how durable that lever is when taking hits from your boot.
I think that's exactly the reason they put it on the outside
If is there is because of a reason simple as that .
you still alive?
3rd season on my photons, typical all mountain rider , if Any boot pain occurs I personally adjust my stance, and or insoil. They’ve treated me well. Very responsive.
I posted this elsewhere already… But I first saw the MOD here… so…
Wow!!! GREAT Idea! I’m fortunate to ride deep powder stashes - in the trees often. The SINGLE complaint/problem I’ve ever had after riding Stepons for a few years now… is the ability to quickly release when you go down, and are stuck in deep powder. Having to reach to the outside to release, has proven to be extremely difficult at times - buried under deep snow. This would be a MASSIVE Safety enhancement to say the least! Thanks!
Six seasons with three sets. Switched them back to the outside as it’s more comfy for me and the way my body leans to reach the levers quicker and more comfy. Also with them switched u gotta be super careful on the lifts so your free foot doesn’t accidentally release the locked in boot.
Also the high back really doesn’t make a huge difference in feel if it’s leaning forward.
With boots locked in proper, the boot and binding become one solid thing so any movement at all moves the board with instant response. To soften that response it’s more about the boot and how tight in your foot it is.
I've run inside lever set up for 3 years and it works really nicely.
so no issues with kicking the lever and releasing the binding accidentally while skating or on a lift? Just got these and I cant reach to the outside because short trex arms and dad belly lol
@@nobicepz I swapped them to the inside. Check it out, much better set up IMO.
I've had these for 3 seasons and I didn't know you can change the lever to the inside.. Thank you!! Changing my set up now!
Just set up my bindings. The part about “seeing F2” really helped me dial the forward lean in. FYI: on the bottom of my bindings it said right and left.
I’ve been riding these step on bindings for about a season and a half and I have to say that I never knew you could change where the lever goes (outside of the bindings to the inside of the bindings) I just changed out my setup to reflect that and I can’t wait to see the difference! 🎉 Yew!
yeah I rode one season with them on the outside when I switched last year to inside I'm definitely not going back.
@@spyghetti yeah, they really work well, wry practical and easy to get in and out, just glad somebody else switched over and can’t switch back either! 😳
Great video, had helpful info for me even after 5 seasons on the step on set up. Just bought new boots and bindings for 2024 yesterday, shop guys said boot sizes seem tighter/smaller than prior years but at least theyve apparently fixed the clicking noise on the earlier binding models (my prior one was 2018 and click sound was super annoying). Psyched for this winter, thanks for the helpful video!
Setting up with that much forward lean can make it harder to get that second "click" when stepping on, which results in heel lift. The solution is to move the footbed forward an additional notch.
I tried moving the levers to the inside and found it harder than on the outside. Your arms are on the outside, so normally they just need to go down to reach the lever. With the lever on the inside they need to go down, across your leg, and inward.
Or your left arm releases the right binding lever and your right arm releases the left 🙂
I cranked mine all the way and had no issue and I'm size 13 boots.
@@Clluthu Some people have experienced that problem, and moving the footbed forward always seems to solve it. If it's not happening for you, great. Just putting the info out there for anyone who experiences it.
It's also possible that last season's toe clip update somehow helped.
I'm looking into getting the SO, I'm a boot size 8 which uses the last notch on S binding, if I want to add forward lean, I'll need to go to the M binding?
@@micofok730 No. Mens Size 8 will only work with mens small binding. S,M,L have different distances between the cleat and toe studes, so the toe studs on a mens Size 8 wouldn't reach the toe clips on the mens medium binding.
That does mean that you won't be able to move the footbed forward with sizes 8, 10.5 and 12.5.
I'd just back off the forward lean until it doesn't cause this problem. Also, going to a stiffer boot can give you heel-side response with less forward lean.
You reach on the outside for your traditional bindings, so I don't think it'd a big deal the way they come outta the box
The only time it's difficult is when I'm releasing right binding with left hand. Curious how easy it is to kick yourself out when the lever is on the inside...
The release lever is always on the outside of your binding. Makes it easy to know which goes where!
I naturally put my front foot n the front binding. Even when I used Straps to didn’t need the Buckles to tell me which Boot went to which Binding.
You have also written on the bottom LEFT or RIGHT :)
Hi Kevin, thanks for the clear explanation, especially inversion of the levers, I had no clue it was possible. It seems just a small update but it will allow snowboarding possible for my son...he has an HANDICAP since his birth and he cannot reach the outside release with his right hand!
I have been using step on bindings for the 3rd season, but I didn't know that you can switch the lever. I am going to try next sometime, thank you for this video
It's a good idea to run the footbed out a half a size if you run that much forward lean. That's probably why you were feeling the slop in the other video. I'd suggest you try running way less forward lean for a half a day or so. I found that you end up not needing it and it makes stepping in harder.
Been riding the step-ons for the last 5 years…and levers on the outside work so well, so easy…🤔
I guess in the default setting, you can tell which binding is R and L by where the lever is.
Just got my Burton X Step-On, love the whole construction of it with the 50/50 Carbon. Been using Burton Diode since it first came up 10yrs+ ago and it hasn't failed me besides the binding straps disintegrating due to COVID, but I have replaced them with the new 3D straps that are so awesome.
Looking forward to receiving my Ion SO and testing out the increased response! Will definitely test out changing the levers around. Thanks!
Can you please do a video showing the boots and the inner liner? I'm riding the DC control step on boots, but I'm interested in those traditional lace step on boots. I haven't been able to see any pictures videos on the inner liner or locking ankle support, if any. The DC control boots have a pull cord on the liner to secure it. Do these?
Очень крутая идея со сменой рычагов вовнутрь креплений!!!
Мужик ты крутой!! Смотрю все твои видео, делай их больше!)
I figure using the low 4 hole is the default for the up/down location options but I wish there were 3 locations because one in between would be ideal for me, to be perfectly centered. Both tend to feel biased either way.
Cant wait for the next step on video!
Can you make a video for best techniques how to click in on the snow. I found that I couldn’t get 2 clicks on the heel on the snow as there wasn’t enough pressure to fully engage!
Bro.....im setting up my son's board rn....that mod is awesome! thank you!!!
Back from a first trip on these (mixed emotions) and they are very convenient but I took a few flat "out of nowhere" edge catches of the sort I haven't had in like 15-20 years. Was getting pretty frustrated at the amount of movement going on but I do think on reflection I wasn't double clicked in the heel sometimes. Realised after a day or so I hadn't adjusted the forward lean and didn't have a suitable screwdriver with me to set that, exactly like you describe. My old bindings are set F4 so I'm hoping bringing that forward helps stabilise the setup. Kind of wish I'd got some of the boots which have an akle boa aswell.
My Burton swath step on boots tighten down completely different from left boot to right boot right foot can't stop my heel from lifting without the boot being uncomfortably tight and the left foot feels perfect most of the time.
Boarding in Aotearoa / New Zealand (and other places with small, quiet or old school resorts) and having the lever on the inside might be annoying when you have to rest your back foot in front of the back binding to ride T-Bar, pommer or nut cracker lifts.
I bet it makes it easier to reach but I personally like being able to rest my foot on the board properly when riding lifts or you can end up looking like a real dork 😂
Thank you for the video, I’m really looking forward to giving mine a hoon tomorrow 🙌🏽
Thx a lot. Love your explanation. Think I'm not gonna switch from the outside to the inside, but good to know about the highbacks! Have a good season 🥰
The little one is a #1 most likely and the big one is for sure a #3. Available in standard and longer versions. They are available for sale individually at the big box stores. The #3 can be a little more challenging to find but they are out there.
Phillips #2 is what is needed for the highback adjustment forward lean and a Phillips #3 is standard use for the screws securing the bindings to the board.
Lever on the outside, and there is a sticker on each one (bottom of the highback) and a writing on the bottom of each baseplate.
This literally blew my mind! I got my step on last week. When I set them up I thought the same thing about switching the lever to the inside of the boot! Great minds brother!
this REALLY helped kev, been riding the step ons for a year now and i had no idea you can adjust the highbacks. looking forward to your feedback while riding. Also just got the bataleon party wave, if you have any thoughts on it please do share! keep it up!!
Does it matter Which screw you used to adjust for Lynn? There appears to be two screws. I love the way. @Burton gives no instructions on how to set up these bindings.
That should have said lean, not Lynn🤣
Totally trying that swapped lever setup.
Thanks for the huge help and saving me time and error and the frustration.
The bindings are also labeled left/right
lol the first time I tried it I actually struggled to unlock with the release on the outside. I do a lot of powerlifting and blamed my stupid wide lats :X. in the end I found it easier to just get on my knees to unlock kinda defeats the purpose of easy out, will give swapping them a go next season.
Sadly I can only give one star. Installed last fall and reviewed some vids before going out. First time getting out was a flip'n nightmare. Not only is it hard to reach, if you have any pressure on you heal from reaching over, the lever jams. I did the mod before the snow even had time to melt off my board. :-) maybe you whipper snappers can easily do it, but a 68 I'm not that flexible anymore. :-)
Boarding in Aotearoa / New Zealand (and other places with small, quiet or old school resorts) and having the lever on the inside might be annoying when you have to rest your back foot in front of the back binding to ride T-Bar, pommer or nut cracker lifts.
I bet it makes it easier to reach but I personally like being able to rest my foot on the board properly when riding lifts or you can end up looking like a real dork 😂
Getting mine soon, excited, I will probably keep the lever as they are to start with
Thanks for another great video assist Kevin!
The silver binding plate screws are usually a PH3 which is philips #3 which isnt a standard size, actually didnt have 1 in my single mechanic's tool set which has 3 screwdriver kits, and screwdriver ratchet bits
Was a $10 screwdriver at home depot....
A PH2 WILL STRIP IT OUT
Hey Kevin, were in whistler, first time here for us.. any recommendations of where to go tomorrow.. bit of a storm today, hopefully will be a bit better tomorrow.
You lucky dog. I’d die to go to Whistler. Mount Wash was packed last Saturday.
I would suggest you give these a good couple of weeks in order to fairly assess them
Blows my mind to see kev stoking while setting up step ons…
Your mind is easily blown
@@1984session ok newbie, if you go back to the initial launch of the step ons youll see just how against them kevin had been. Dont stress though i doubt youll have much more engagement on these vids :)
@@Bad_Riderswhy are they bad?
Great video thanks for showing the heel adjustment.
The one thing with these Bindings is you can't adjust the HIGHBACK ROTATION, Correct? Making the highback more parallel to the board.
I didn't know about the F-stops on the high-back... Much easier to get them even now; thanks, Kevin!!
Left my releases on the outside tho: just feels more natural for me - maybe since I don't do grabs?
Going to help in setting up my GF new bindings. Quick question, what are the negatives of more forward lean and do you recommend it for a new rider (she has about 8 days over the last few years, but we are going to hit 30 next season if we get snow).
Nice job on switching lever to inside…..little did I know!
Is still a requirement to have a leash installed on the Board binding ? Some areas require them for safety so in case the ski/snowboard releases it doesn’t fall. It will hang on your leg instead risking someone getting hit in the head.
Interesting to see how they work.
Anyone know how the foam piece slides out?
My Burton Snowboard has 3 holes only for the install disc, will the new bindings work for the 3 holes ( I'm sure I have 3 holes only, just double checked)
Old left binding just broke
Thanks for your responses in advance
Could you please share some thought learning terrain park with Step On? Especially for jibbing. I heard that Step On is so senstivie for the movement of the boots, the room for error could be less than strap bindings. I'm not sure is it good for someone just start learning boardslide.
When I had Cartels, I think I was at F4. But with the Step Ons at F3, I have to do a good stomp or jump to get the second heel click.
Resorts nowadays have tool tables, but it's better to setup at home.
Move your footbed half size bigger. I had the same issue.
@@somevietguy514 I've got a 14W boot... The footbed is already maxed out.
I went to the store to try them on and I noticed that there is a short slack when going on the toe edge. I wonder why no one’s is talking about it. And I wonder if it interferes with the toe edge responsiveness
Does this model give the same firmness as the traditional one?
Thanks for posting this video, Kevin. I actually saw a video about how to switch the release levers a week ago and I did it immediately. The release levers WERE my only complaint about the latest Burton step ons. I’ve been riding these binding with the logical placement of those levers for a couple of days now and it makes WAY more sense to have them on the inside for all of the reasons that you mentioned. What was Burton thinking when they made the decision to put those release levers on the outside??
Hi, did you accidentally open your binding or kick the lever while skating or on a lift? I just got the bindings and for fucks sake my arms are just too short to reach the outside lever (and of course my dad belly)
@@nobicepz It seems like I had the same issue as you did with the levers when they were located on the outside of the Burton Step-On bindings. I had a hard time reaching to the outside to release those levers. I've since switched the levers to the inside, as Kevin demonstrates and it's waaaaayyyy better. I think you'd like that and it's easy to swap them. No issues with accidentally kicking the lever while on the lift so far. I love the Burton genesis bindings (2022-2023). I previously bought the Nideckers and hated them in just about every way.
Will this binding work on my old 10+ year old burton snowboard? Thank you
Very helpful video. I appreciate your effort.
Hey people i need your help! I looked at the Felix So boots with the standard 2024 step on binding. putting the boot in the binding, there was a massive vertical gap of like 10mm between the outside cleat of the shoes, to the holder of the binding. the inside sat nicely against the holder, but the outside will always move down and smash up against the binding when turing on the board. do you know more? we tried different binding sizes and even a different shoe. same issue, just different gap size. but nothing that felt like it would be resposive properly.
Why would you want the release lever on the inside if your arms naturally reach down to the outside of the bindings?
When you have wider stance thatn normal then it is closer to levers when they are on the inside. I`m still using them outside though.
The bindings have boot size from 8-11 but I wear a side 7, can I still use those bindings or do they make them in smaller sizes?
why is reaching on the inside easier than the outside? you are mostly doing your back foot, back hand outside the foot????
Still curious on this myself!! 😂
The problem I had with the step on bindings was heel lift inside the boot. The first day or two they worked great, and then the boots packed out, and the became a bit too big. If your boots don’t fit exactly right there’s no way to ratchet your ankle back down, where as with strap bindings you can get away with a boot that is a bit too big or packed out. With step on bindings if your boots don’t fit exactly right, it will ruin your day. But if they do fit well step on bindings are actually pretty great.
some of the boots have an across-the-ankle strap that serves the purpose of the traditional strap pretty well
There is a very clear Left and Right printed right on the bottom of each binding....
How to move Burton Bindings to heel or toe side part of the board?
Super helpful video thank you!
wow I didn't know you can swap the release mechanism on step on. i always struggle and fall when i have to get out of my bindings. is it safe to swap ?
yes it’s safe to do so. had mine reversed for 2 seasons so far. they fit the same way. greatest hack so far for me on these 👌
Have you tried clews they are better in my personal option
Great help.Thnx for the vid!
I really hurt myself with the lever on the outside.
Rib muscles pulled.
If you notice pitching on your toes and have a solution for it. Please make a video for it
if you have Burton shoes might try the wide version, not sure if other brands have that option as well. Or just try other brands, I suppose for each type of foot a certain brand might fit better just like different brands of motorcycle helmets fit certain head shapes better.
THE Heel Release should be on outside, that is how you tell which is Left and Right.
Just got mine today!
helpful video, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
you should get a clip on mic for better sound. great video!
Kevin, hi. I noticed that you haven't used Burton bindings for a long time. I saw that you used Union, Bent Metal, Nidecker. Why aren't you using the usual Burton bindings, is it a coincidence or is there some reason? I use Cartel X myself and I really like them. By the way, the disk is also fixed on them, and this is very convenient.
Love how he's doing this out in the snow and cold, his vids are by far the best
For me, it's release levers that tell me my left and my right.
For me I know that the Front Binding is near the Wider Nose of the Board. I also know that my Right Boot goes into the front Binding.
That was the first thing I learned.
Regarding the highback lean - since the boots are effectively one with the binding there's really no need to adjust it just for response; at that point it's more a matter of what your comfort level is in terms of how your legs are positioned.
When doing a heelside turn it's all highback leverage that does the work. More angle on the highback means more response on heelside. It also means you can't really get your knees straight on catwalks without being forced to your heel edge, so it's a trade off
@@samhunter6813 But it's not with the Step Ons; as I mentioned, the boot and the binding are one with this system
@@fudhater8592 The heel clip has no bearing at all on heel side turns, only toe side. So unless you only pressure heel side turns by pulling up on your toes, it's all high back.
@@samhunter6813 Not sure where you're getting this information but it's incorrect. You can completely remove the highback and they will still function.
Underneath the bindings they write left and right foot on the 2022 version
Looking forward to a review
Thanks great video.
That was great thanks
no, no, no! what hand you using to pull that lever to get out of the binding? you will need to use you right hand to release the left binding a vice versa, if you try to release the right binding with the right hand you will be reaching over the leg you are trying to lift, do not do that folks.
Thanks bro
No problem
Very interesting !
The bindings say left and right on the bottom of the binding.... lol
And doing the lever swap means they are now reversed on the sticker 😂
@@samhunter6813 no..... the base and backing are directional.... so the sticker doesnt change, just the lever location....
Gotta think, your left shoe doesnt become a right shoe just because you change the laces, theres a shape to the shoe
The lever retainer plates are likely symmetrical so they can cut production cost on the lever assembly, but the levers are either forward or reversed which just swaps which way the bolt/nut go into the hole, and depending on the design of a product, it wont often matter on a bolt/nut application which side the bolt/nut are on as long as theyre both there (as a mechanic)
Of course there are applications where it could matter and you want the bolt directional to prevent it from backing out on itself.... say a left-hand-thread bolt which is lefty-tighty instead of lefty-loosey but if the bolt is the same thread orientation on both the forward and the mirror, then the threads likely dont have the potential to back themselves out
@@assassin_asa The sticker is on the lever piece. So now his left binding has a sticker that says Right. I have a pair.
Idk, why do I feel the lever on the outside would actually be easier?
All this just for some convenience.. I’ll take my traditional strap ons.
"How to set up" - "setup" is a noun.
You can find the side of the binding by looking on the bottom🗣️🗣️🗣️
and to increase the angle over the max 36 deg, just use a knife to cut out a few teeth
If you cant reach the outside to release the lever you should just ski.
Coming soon. Step On setups falling out of the sky onto peoples heads.
reaching inside is not natural lol, probably voiding warranty too
ua-cam.com/users/shortsXi7GXNW0MAs?feature=share do you have any issues like this? I only get it when I wear the boots on foot. annoying when I put it on my side pow board I can feel it in the snow. on my park board I barely feel it