The 2020 Camaro LT1 Closer Look!
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2019
- The 2020 Camaro LT1 is coming, but what is making the car the LT1, what aspects will come over from the current SS offering, will it be lighter, what brakes will it running? Let’s talk about the LT1 today in this sit-down real talk video.
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This works out great for me. Next April 2020 I start getting my disability from the Military. And I am planning on buying either a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS. Been planning on this for 3 years now. LT1 Camaro here I come. Thanks GM. I'm 42 years old, 14 years in the US Navy. Married, two kids in college. I work full time. Looking forward to buying a car I want not just what I need. Finally . LT1 such a great idea.
LT1's got the cleanest look out of any 6th gen.
That spectacular chassis and motor in a more affordable package?? Yes please. This could be the trim level of choice for hotrodders.
I'll take a LT1 in black. I like the grille.
I have 13 1lt , Chevy guy said in Camaro talk a car with a 1 in its description is a manual shift, and with a 2 is a automatic all threw the ls, lt. SS models, this is the holy grail of Camaro, I have this emblem with red letters on my yellow v-6 6spd manual Camaro truck lid so I can jones
emblempros.com/inc/sdetail/3448/8198 official GM badging
The LT1 (LT1 is the engine) has the SS performance suspension. Brembo up front. Extra cooling capacity for oil, and coolant. (may be required for the LT1 engine) 40 series tires on 20 " wheels, All standard on the LT1 The 6v and I4 trim levels do not come standard with.
In my younger years I owned a '73 RS/Z28 bright orange with white rally stripes and a '79 Z28 metallic blue. Man I miss those cars.
I just ordered a lt1. It's a as powertrain and suspension. There are less options then the ss. But it comes stock with 245/40/20s all around.
we need a 5.3 camaro
You mad , I'm getting the LT1 with a 10 speed
I’m what?
YES THEY DID IT WAS Z28 CROOSFIRE INJECTION . WHEN I WAS DOING 60 OR MORE, IT HAVE ON TOP OF THE HOOD 2 LOUVERS THEY OPEN AT TOPS SPEED OF 60 OR MORE. CHECK IT OUT . U CAN GET MORE INFO ABOUT IT . TAKE CARE HAVE NICE MEMORIAL DAY. BE SAFE
They should've done the 1SS (LT LT1), 2SS (currently is 1SS), and 3SS (currently is 2SS). Sounds better and less confusing
They would probably try to raise the price of the 2SS if it was named 3SS because it sounds even more premium
It would probably be easier to just make the Lt1 the 3lt
I can't say I really like the idea of a lower model with a V8, but I'm all for it if it's necessary for the longevity of the Camaro nameplate.
307, not 302. And yes, that 307 engine was a DOG.
I’d rather have a 307 than a 305 lol
You’re correct it was a 307! The 302 was in the 68 & 69 Z/28.
@@RacnJsn95 Oh indeed, 2 of GM's less-than-spectacular V8 engines.
@@1gertroid Don't leave out the 602 1967 Z28s! Rare rare rare car...
Yeah when he said 302 I was like wait, thought GM only put that in the first gen and it was NOT a dog. My dad had a 69 Z28 DZ302 when new and he said it was one of the fastest cars around for the time.
I bought a 2019 lt v6 RS 3 months ago but I have equity in it. I don't drive it alot so the mileage will be low. Def considering a trade up to the LT1 bc the after market products available for the V8 GM motor way surpass what's available for the V6. I think the LT1 will be immensely popular among current V6 owners.
What do you think of the V6? I have a few solid reasons to be leaning that way for my next purchase.
@Geoffrey Tipton completely agree. Ended up trading a 2LT for an SS and haven’t looked back since.
Venture B. Don’t settle for a V6, you will be kicking yourself until you get rid of it!
@@coniccinoc Truth is that it's a highly underated machine. I live in the bay area and there really isn't even enough space to really test the V6 for more than a few seconds at a time, let alone a V8. It's fast and responsive. I am growing my skills to match the V6 RS capabilities before I buy a LT1 or SS but I suppose the story would be the same had I jumped into the SS. I would still have to grow into it. These cars out perform the skill of most drivers. V6 included.
Camaro talk a car with a 1 in its description is a manual shift, and with a 2 is a automatic all threw the ls, lt. SS models, these is the holy grail of camaro,
This will be faster then the 1ss and the 2ss and 1le. Very light at 455hp 455tq. If u like to race this is ur car
That grille is not so flattering. The 2016-18 front grille was beautiful
Agreed
Idk man, this new 2020 grill is not flattering or aggressive, but it looks clean and nice. I like the simple look for some reason.
Looks better than the current SS grill
Hell yeah I want it
I’m all for the idea of a “cheaper” V8. But I think it should have been a 5.3 (or 5.7 like the 4th gen Z28) with 395-405 hp. That way it separates each model from one another. What makes the SS unique except the badging now? Why buy a 1SS, if you can just get a LT1? Hell, it might have been smarter to call it a Z28 for marketing. Maybe would have sold more.
This LT1 model is designed for someone who doesn't care as much for handling and appearance as much as just having V8 power and a great cruiser. The 1SS and 2SS are better-handling cars with more panache and standard features. 1LEs are factory track rats.
The other group I think will like this LT1 are the hot rodders that are going to modify or replace all of the chassis upgrades the SS has standard; so it'll be a bit of a blank canvas V8 car.
Jacob Lee I get where you’re coming from with your statement. I still would have liked it to be named “Z28” for sells, tradition, and fun. I guess Camaro feels if they have a “Z” in the generation they’ve met the standard. Haha...
I have a 2018 Camaro SS and when I was 16 I had a 1985 IROCZ ✊I thought the IROCZ was fast 💨🤷🏼♂️
Big D I had a 87 I-Roc & I remember trying to get 300Wheel hp out of the 5.7 TPI ;) I thought “man if I can just get this thing into the low 13’s @100mph” lol.. now I have a Challenger Hellcat & can’t believe these things are trapping over 127mph in the 1/4 bone stock.. what a time to be a Gearhead
I think this is a great move by GM - reasonably good-looking Camaro with the V8 it deserves but a price tag that will appeal to people like me who don't have $50K to throw around... but may be able to scrape together $35K to make a dream come true. I had the privilege of driving the 2019 SS convertible around Houston (rental) and although it was an awesome experience I kept thinking to myself amidst the big console screen and heads-up display, "I would have been happy with just the V8 - I don't need the distractions" - hopefully this car will bring the pure joy of driving a mean old lumpy V8 back to the GM faithful. I'm excited
Ironically tho, the heads up display is meant so that ur not distracted. Also the 2ss has blind spot monitoring
I have a 78 BBC Corvette with a 2018 SS Camaro car cover!!! Love your car and videos! Thanks for sharing!!!
My first Camaro 1981 brand new out of the showroom
N that car was bad ass back in the day. It was they call crossfire ingection
There's no such thing anymore, no nobody knows what's that all about. But i loved that thing. Ok later
Have a nice Memorial Day weekend. GB
there was no crossfire in 81...............
81 Camaro didn't get crossfire haha wtf
That lt1 model needs cloth seats with Mechanical sliding , no sunroof, smaller brakes in rear to fit some 15inch drag wheels
Roll-down windows, infotainment delete, etc. The thought of a 6th gen with roll down windows is exciting
I wonder how much camaro sales have slowed. In my town I’ve only seen 3 2019 SS and we are almost half way through the year.
Anytime I need Camaro news I head right to this channel. Thanks for the update Matt!! You could use some Chase Elliott signs in that garage.
I do like the dark rally green.
they should of brought back te ls3 as the low price v8
Funny thing is that I have a mustang 2015
Camaro
I would at least hope the LT1 has the option for staggered wheel set up. My 5th Gen RS has stagger tires, and I think it looks more aggressive
I also say that the Challenger is only real muscle car, used the term lightly.. I say that because its not nearly as good in cornering as Mustang and Camaro
@Lazerbrainz2k3 I agree. Its already well equipped, I would assume, for what you get. To me, the stagger wheel just looks good. And like you said, could be achieved aftermarket
LA Beast here! HAVE A GOOD DAY!
Gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I think it's a beautiful car. The grill doesn't look droopy at all and thr headlights are perfect. The headlights from the ls camaros look perfect, the ugly headlights are on the rs and as, which have an extended drl portion that extends into the grill making them look too close together. The front of the new ss isn't bad either, I just wish they got rid of those stupid headlights.
Have had a 84 98 now a 2010
I love it my boy keep up work and love video and I love new gen 7 Camaro v8 lot true
what?
Lethalgarage when is the 7th gen camaro come out
It's cool but i notice the Price out the door is kinda hi hell i can go buy a 1LE SS for a tab bit more🤷
I owned a 1st Gen SS and have a 5th Gen SS (2010) and still have it and enjoy it as my daily driver.
Looks much better than the 2019 face lift.
GM always has made new and exciting options in their line of cars and especially in the Camaro production line, so hopefully when and if they do produce the 7th Gen. they’ll provide us with same bad ass Camaro like they have in the past.
They’re hindered by how much they can strip out of these cars by what is required by federal law, back up cameras, brakes that can stop in a certain distance, etc... and the power windows, doors, & seats are probably retained because they don’t want to make a bunch of manually operated parts for one car. What gm should do is go back to the ala-carte method of ordering your Camaro the way they did back in the 60’s. Using these packages limits people who would otherwise just get the V8 and nothing else other than what was required by law
Not a Camaro expert so forgive any wrong facts, but this made me wonder if Chevy could be looking back on the early years as basis for the lineup. Didn't early SS models come with both small block and big block engines? Big blocks leaned toward drag racing and the small blocks were to qualify/compete in Trans Am racing with higher reving engines and better handling? With two size V8s they might eliminate the V6 or turbo 4? Competition may be requiring the smaller engines to step up in performance and Chevy thinks to save money by sharing the same block as the SS in the lesser model? Lastly, I recall 3rd gen RS being available with the lesser 305 V8?
After looking at a 2015 1SS at a Carmax, I can't think of anything that can be stripped from the SS trim to justify an LT1. What are they gonna do? Delete cruise control and A/C?
I hope the '20 SS has an option for a black center bumper like the '19s but keeping the bow tie (flow tie?) in the grill proper.
Brad Baldonado never thought about that but that’d look cool
I would also like to point out I had a 79 Camaro and it looked EXACTLY like a Z28 and had the same 350 TH350 that you could get in a Z28 but was named LTZ or LT or LT1. Can't remember exactly but it was LT something. I think the name is stupid and confusing AF but its something GM has done before.
So many Camaro options. They should call this new LT1 just a Camaro. So you have the I4, V6, this new one “regular camaro”, SS and ZL1. Any should be able to have the 1LE package since I guess it’s mostly aero stuff/track stuff? Would be great with the same SS 6 speed manual trans or 8/10 speed auto, and cheaper...just a normal stereo and limited options, to keep it cheap. Will be interesting for sure
And they’re going to have electric camaro soon lol
Imo. calling it camaro Lt1 will confuse some out there .a more appropriate name would be Camaro V8, just sounds a hella better .base body with a
big v8 and a stick behind it. Kind of reminds me of the old copo
cars from way back.
It's so annoying how common the camaro, mustang, and challenger all are. There is even 4 cylinder ones now.
BOONIQUE That’s why I love ❤️ my new age GTO
“I’ll just wait till the 7th gen zl1”
Oh you got MONEY money huh lol
Me too tevin 2023? 🤞
Yea.... about that...
GM is trying to attract buyers by making the v8 more affordable. It would be nice if you could get the 1le version of the LT1 but that would cannibalize their SS and SS 1le models maybe. I'm wondering if you could get the RS package with this. Also, is the 1le option already have RS package elements in it or is it a separate package where you have to order the 1le and RS appearance package separately?
Strip it all the way, no power windows, no infotainment set up, basic radio with CD player or maybe an aux cable.
Jeremy Watson I would trade all the technics for a better quality, more vintage, interior.
Lazerbrainz2k3 the truth is that cars need some kind of central computing system to manage all the safety features that are required in many countries, so making a true, drivers only car, with just the essentials, is practically impossible.
I’m definitely looking forward to seeing if and what packages you can add. It might just be best to pay the difference to get an SS. I’ve got a 2014 1LT and I’m in the market to upgrade to the V8 so I’m excited about this release.
I don't believe the 302 was standard in the 1970 Camaro, it was standard in the 1969 Z/28 with 2 - 4bbl carbs & it is a badass small block .. Probably a 307 you are thinking of..
Yup, 307 I misspoke
@@Lethalgarage I do it every other word so no worries bud. :-)
Some people like Brussels Sprouts too!
Was on the fence about a 2020 SS and a Challenger r/t scat pack. I might hold off and check these out, too...
Same
I have been waiting for a meat and potatoes v8 no frills camaro, no spoiler and narrow tires is exactly the formula that I will buy asap
What’s the name of the black model care you have there?
no 302 after 1969, 307 replaced the 327 as the base V8
You never heard of the 283? That's what the 307 replaced. 350 replaced the 327.
I want a base model Camaro with a SS motor. Is that so hard?
Stupid and confusing name but yes, we wanted this. In fact it should have had less and cost even LESS. Should have V6 brakes and 18" wheels. Not any more but with the 2017 Mustang you could get a base V8 for around $30k flat after discounts. A car that had base brakes, 18" wheels and base interior. Back in 1996-2002 you could get a Z28 for $22k BEFORE discounts. It didn't have the cool hood, wheels, grill, spoiler, ect but was a SUPERIOR car for the money. If the LT1 can be had for less than $30k after discounts. I will get one for the wife to go in the garage next to my 2019 5.0.
This will work great for people who want the most thrills per dollar. Of course, spinning the car off the road may count as a "thrill" in this case.
Brian Lear great name dude!
Waiting for the C8 😈😈
What I would have done was retune the 5.3 v8 370hp. Some where in that neighborhood. And price it at 30k
American cars all sell for under MSRP as a carry-over from the employee pricing campaign from the 2000s. Car brands that offered former employees lifetime discounts found a loophole where they could just mark up MSRP 15% to negate their promise to their employees. If you pay full MSRP on a car it had better not be an American car.
Hey anyone have an idea what car is in the background in the start of the video? I believe the LT1 is a great option for those looking to build the Camaro super charge spray etc that don’t have a desire to put it on a track
If the LT1 is only about $3K less than an SS, I wouldn't choose the LT1. I would rather buy a feature-packed USED car instead of a new car with fewer options. Of course, there are options that I wouldn't choose to get but, my point is that I'm not inclined to go with an LT1 model.
@Lethal garage do you think it would be cheaper and it would sell more if they offered the 5.3 in it? The current 5.3 does make about 355 horses
The new Camaros (2019) already offer 4 different motors, I don't think another motor would help. What modern car comes with 5 different engine options?
It's cool that you have a second generation camaro. GM built the 70 camaro to compete against the mustang. If they gave different front end and different motor options like they did in 1970 they might have better sales
Thumbnail looks like a family sedan
That's the point of a BLUE COLLAR HOTROD! The important part is you get the same drive train as the SS with just adequate brakes and suspension like Dodge has done with the standard Scat Pack vehicle's, just give me the POWER PLANT! Who cares about all the other bells and whistles!! Getting a great performance car at a good price point is what it's all about. IF YOU CAN TURN A WRENCH, DON'T MIND GETTING DIRTY AND ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THE WORK, you can make the car into what you want! THAT'S WHAT BLUE COLLAR PERFORMANCE IS ALL ABOUT. Leave all the unnecessary stuff for people who have money to waste.
What they need to do is include connected factory nav in every SS as standard.
They kinda do. Anyone with a smart phone and google maps or waze can have nav right on the Mylink screen.
That cheap, small valve, low compression motor was the 307, not the famous powerful 302.
You mean 305
the 307 replaced the 283 in 1968.
I would take the LT1 over the SS all day! I really like the looks of the LT1 plus you save money for mods
for someone that wants the V8 and will mod it with wheels, suspension.. not a bad option to have.
They had to do this bc camaro sales are slaughtered by mustang and challenger...basically the market competition forced this move. Regardless, I love it and will probably reward GM by cashing in myself...or I might hold off for a 2019 1SS 1LE after the 2020 refresh bc I bet prices are gonna get slashed once the 2020s hit dealer lots.
GM still makes $1B a year off Camaro. They just need to get their bearings corrected
Ok so another question..... I am looking at possibly getting a 2016 2ss auto with 12k mile for about 29k or one of these base models V8 with a stick for about 32k. What are your thoughts?
A 2SS to me is worth the upgrades
The Camaro Beretta the luxury sports car
That was a Berlinetta and was ugly in the 80's
Blaine Couch I was about to type same thing. I had both. 77 berlinetta and 93 beretta
I think its gonna be same story as challenger/chargers. Scat pack and srt using same engine but scat pack is cheaper much light and strait line beats the srt. So 1lt lt1 could beat the ss on strait line but not on track
Chevy & ford are pony cars. Dodge still carry that muscle heritage heavy as a boat with a big ass engine. I believe that LT1 camaro will be a hit for the people like me that can’t afford the fully loaded SS’s. My prediction is that the interior will be basic, breaks will be made by the same company but just a regular non quality breaks, then we’ll get the shitty basic tires that we will have to replace to buy a good grip tires of course & a basic exhaust that we will have to change if we wanna hear that monster sound. The suspension will probably be different than the SS that’s my guess. I’m excited ! I’m driving a 2013 RS i’m still paying on it though ! I should be done with my car note before they release the new LT1 or during the release. I’m excited because IDC about the fully loaded trims I just want a Camaro with a V8 under the hood & that New LT1 will be everybody’s dream on just wanting a Camaro with a V8 under the hood with no fancy trims. If you care about fully loaded with fancy trims & great suspensions then the LT1 isn’t for you but if you just want a Camaro with a V8 under the hood with no fancy trims so you don’t gotta pay extra for it then the LT1 is what you want. The price will be 34-35k if they can get it to 30-32K that would be insane.
Lol the 1SS is not not stripped enough.
When its competitors come with up to 4 options for brakes, wheels, tires interior ect.? No there are not enough choices.
Personally I don’t think we have enough details on this said ‘LT1’ model to make guesses/assumptions on what it may be. I hope GM releases more info soon on this new model because I’m curious as to what it may entail.
lt1 only tru muscle
The 1971 engine was a 307 base engine.
Yea there is a world of difference between a 302 z/28 engine and your Camaros base 307. And of course the 302 ended in 1969. Do some dam research before you try to go off on your diatribe of Camaro knowledge.
The back end is so ugly, they need to fix it asap
I think this car is being made for the SEMA crowd. Base car and add to your hearts delight.
Sure. I hate the ride.of the SS. I wouldnt mind a 5.3 version of the Camaro. V8 sound and I aint racin no one.
I don't think the suspension will be anything special, aimed more so for the strip guys/gals. Probably just have the SS brakes for the whoa
Don't hold your breath for a 7th gen, not currently in the 3 year outlook.
If you want to replace all the parts with Hot Rod Parts ... who cares . More choices are good .
I think that’s a badass option to have available! Didn’t even know about it but that’s been my complaint since this new generation of domestic performance cars began, there’s too much junk in these cars making them too heavy to perform to their potential and too expensive to be bought by the average consumer. Consider that a new SS costs close to what the average American household’s income is is stupid and begging the model to fail... AGAIN. Now consider that it’s usually younger single males who are the target market cut that income roughly in half and even a basic SS model well exceeds that average individual’s yearly income. We need this car. It’s the one I would buy in a heartbeat.
The second Gen Camaro you have it came with a 307 the first Gen Camaro Z28s had the 302 engine 👍
You're right I misspoke in this video.
(307ci - Gross HP/TQ - 200 @4600hp / 300 @ 2400
They make a TON on these cars, this car would be a real hit if it had a $29,999 price, 34,999 too high
work on your thumbnail and try to edit more.
you're channel is great
Should I get a lt1 or just get a 1ss I’m stumped
Get that one you like better
I feel like they could’ve just given the lower trim options a 5.3l truck motor and see how it sells
I agree, something around 375hp, low frills, nice rumble as a starting point for further aftermarket upgrades. There’s a lot of room between the turbo 4/V6 power levels & the SS, seems like a sweet spot for an entry-level V8.
Facts.
Let me just say if you are anywhere near the DMV area get your "muscle cars" there. I live in Pittsburgh PA and the same vehicles they have in my city are $6,000 - $10,000 cheaper and the cars here are already $3,000 under MSRP. I counting on the new LT1 to be about $29,000 - $31,000 range and I'm going to get mine down there early next year.
To me this model camaro is what the firebird formula was to the trans am. A wolf in sheep's clothing! Looks like a v6, but it's got a secret under the hood. I'm buying this version and removing the lt1 badging. Keeps the other v8 street racers from harassing you thinking it's a v6. Thats what i miss most about my 2001 firebird formula.
The hood still gives it away.
@@michaelhunsinger8351 im sure the sound will give it away before the hood even. I still am into the less is more idea tho.
How much is the car supposed to be
$34,995
So the biggest question of all, will it have a manual?!
Steven Quere they’ll make manuals of course why not, but no one even really buys manual cars. Some people yeah but like that’s why they’re less than an automatic. An automatics are just faster. But what is cool about manuals is how you could play with the rpms and make better exhaust sounds.
The 6 speed manual is standard. 10 speed auto optional
The 5.0 lx of the modern era
I'm waiting till the 7th gen I need more power
Sneaker society it ain't no 7th gen camaro at all u just be waiting for a long time
When do you think we will see a 7th gen?
not for a while
If you watched this video, then you just saw a 7th gen.
@@austinnevill5693my bad, I meant a car that looked different. I realize its the A2 platform but since it looks just like the old one I guess I don't really consider it "new"
and if I remember correctly it should be the 2020 or 2021 model. Its rumored to have a larger engine too.
should be 2021 or 2022