Did Steph Curry just solidify his spot on the NBA Top 10 all-time list? | Keyshawn, JWill and Max
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- Did Steph Curry just solidify his spot on the NBA Top 10 all-time list? | Keyshawn, JWill and Max
Keyshawn, JWill and Max react to the Warriors winning the franchise's fourth NBA championship in eight seasons and Stephen Curry capturing his first NBA Finals MVP. Golden State defeated the Boston Celtics 103-90 in Game 6 of the 2022 NBA Finals to secure the title.
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Steph plays the game the right way. He doesn't complain because his game speaks for itself. If you make a top 10 list, create criteria, then make a list.
He doesn't what? Man stop it every player complains better you said he doesn't complain as much as the others
I love steph but he definitely complains and flops lol...
Everybody complains and everybody flops. That's just how the game is played. Steph does it too, just not as much
So when he throws his mouth piece at players ref or peoples that’s not complaining?..well what is complaining then?
@the ugly duckling easy one of the games against memphis he flopped ay the end and they won
KD doesn’t win without curry. Can you reverse that statement? No. Curry >KD
KD got swept by Boston while curry beat them in 6
right
More like Lebron doesnt take 2 Ls in dominating fashion if Curry didnt have KD.
Totally agree, KD just make sure they win by 100%
@@smoothsavage2870a bunch of “what if’s” we are living in reality not in theory
Steph can do it without KD, KD cant do it without Steph.
How many times did Steph beat a healthy Cavs team in the finals without KD?
KD can win without Steph. It wasn’t a smart decision to try to achieve that with Kyrie & the Bklyn Nets. But I have no doubt if KD was in the right situation, the way Curry is, KD could win again
While I agree that Steph is a little better than KD, here’s a better statement for you: the warriors can do it without KD, KD can’t do it without the warriors. Stop attributing the ENTIRETY of a team’s success to only one player, especially when they’ve got a stacked squad. Here’s an example of how your thinking is flawed: Tim Duncan has 5 rings, but people usually don’t put him as a more dominant player than Shaq who only has 4. Why?
Put K.D on the Grizzlies squad and see what happens.
@@smoothsavage2870 I love KD but Steph beat him in the WCF
He’ll forever be remembered - the best shooter of all times and changed the way the game has played
Mt Rushmore
Not a top 10 player
Lillard, harden, beal, d’antoni, Durant, curry, klay etc are part of revolutionizing the game
@@mynutsonyourchin2806 and tracy mcgrady?
@@RetroNBA42 name ur top 10
I feel like one of the biggest thing about this warriors championship is that it completely discounts KD's rings... he can't win a ring without GS, GS can win rings without him. I'm on All-Time Steph > All-Time KD, especially after this.
Wow what a hot take that hasn't been said since the day KD went to GS.... Get off his nuts
everybody says this, but forget that KD threw away an entire season of his prime for that Warriors team.. tore his achilles which is the worst injury in sports & came back like nothing happened!
Congratulations Steph. You are just pure greatness all around. You are to 10 baby. I just love the way you don't take the glory for yourself but as a team. Praying for continued Blessings for you.
4x champion...finals MVP...greatest shooter of all time....made a below stellar franchise into a all-time great franchise...and he changed the game as far as how it's played...I be hating on Curry because I still prefer CP3 and kyrie....but Stephan Curry...u can't deny the greatness of dude...he is definently top 10
But you got to think who are you taking out? For me, Jordan, LeBron, Kareem are locked in. Russell is the best defender ever no point taking him out, Hakeem likewise. So then you have Bird, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Tim and Wilt. For Steph to be top 10 you have to take out 2 of the 6 I just listed, for me I can only justify taking out Wilt which leaves Curry 11th and just outside top 10.
@@survivortheoneincharge7875 Lebron gotta go tbh, getting destroyed by dallas,spurs and warriors was horrible. Steph has never been swept or destroyed in the playoffs or finals.
@@survivortheoneincharge7875 The NBA has tp get Wilt nuts out they mouths. Steph is better at this point.
I personally don't have bill Russell in my top 10 idc about all the rings with 7 hof and he was putting up pedestrian numbers. It's tough for me to put steph in my top 10 because he has gotten hunted on defense and exploited mostly throughout his career. I seen him lose a finals when he clearly had the better team he just didn't play up to his standard. U can't avg 7 points less than ur regular season avg.
@@survivortheoneincharge7875 curry 4 rings 2 mvps only unanimous mvp 1 finals mvp 2 scoring titles all star mvp 50-40-90 club 6 finals appearances 8 all star appearances 8 all nba teams greatest shooter ever yeah he’s top 10 he has better career then some dudes y’all have in the top 10 people just have a bias when it comes to older players for nostalgic reasons he’s definitely top 10 and I say this as a Miami heat fan
As someone who wasn't a big Tim Duncan fan, I went back and looked at his stats. If Tim Duncan didn't play for a small market and wasn't a quiet guy, we would talk about him the way we talk about Shaq. Dude is best PF in nba history without question.
Well said
Truly doesn't matter if Timmy is the best PF of all time. Still isn't talked about like shaq because he wasn't ever as dominant individually as peak shaq
@@snapcole6402 that’s the dumbest remark you’ve said! Dude was the reason why they won for so long and had 50 win seasons the entire time he was playing with the spurs! 3X finals MVP with 2 MVP’s and multiple all star and 1st team all defenses smh foh
Well said Eric
If he wasn't so dominant, he wouldn't have gotten an MVP in an era with a lot of ball dominant players (AI, Kobe, Shaq). Dude won championships from Kobe's prime to LeBron's prime, that is crazy in itself.
KD would be a shell of his true self as a second option, while Steph is still an MVP as an second option. The Warriors had no choice but to make KD the first option to optimize him, it ain't about whose better its about who can play what role.
Nah it was ego with KD. Both Kerr and Dray have been on record saying Steph was first option and they ran the offense thru him.
I called this at the start of the playoffs, and stuck to my pick. how could you not see GS winning this year, it was as obvious as a sunrise. congrats GS!
@@husseinali6484 and if the suns didn’t?
Easy to say after the fact
im a warriors fan i always believe long as we have healthy curry klay n draymond we in the finals
@@aceboogy3284 It might be because i'm a warriors fan but with them starting off 18-2 without Klay Thompson, having the Number 1 defense in the league before the injuries piled up, it's not a hard choice
As soon as they got eliminated last season from the play in tournament I told my basketball buddies that when Klay comes back the warriors would make it to at least the conference finals if not the finals and my friends thought I was crazy..none of them got anything to say to me today lmao and I ain’t a warriors fan
1) Jordan
2) Kareem
3) Russell
4) Magic
5) LeBron
6) Kobe
7) Steph
8) Bird
9) Wilt
10) Duncan
11) Shaq
I like ur list. What made u put steph over bird, wilt, duncan and shaq? Im just curious, not hating
Bron not top 10 all time
@@imanolvides3185 steph is the goat 🐐 he's #1 all time
@@gabrielkennethmarinas6244 steph better than Duncan fasho
Draymond was right, steph was doubled almost 2x more than Durant during the playoffs/finals when they played together. People just dont want to see that
he's already in my top 10 before his achievements this year, before his 4th ring, the FMVP, the all-time 3pt leader, the all star MVP. Just because he's become a revolutionary player in this era, completely took advantage of the 3pt line and elevate himself and his team to greatness. You can't have a top 10 without the greatest shooter of all time
faxts n he aint done
The whole game of basketball is centered around putting the ball in the hoop. Best ever to do it is in top 10. You’re spot on. To me he was clearly going to be Mt Rushmore back in 2016. I hate when people say he’s only best shooter all time. It diminishes him. Did Ray or Reggie lead teams to chips? No. Steph is a game changer unlike no other
100% Agree, he was top 10 even before this series
So was Ray Allen a top 10 player before Steph came along?
I agree that Steph is top ten all time, but All Star MVP doesn’t mean much and shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath with all the other accomplishments you brought up.
Top 10 or not the man's a legend and will forever be remembered
Except skip he'll just talk about 2016 today
skip is a shill for ratings, he'll slander his mother if that increases the ratings
He’s top ten
He's in the conversation, easly over KD now.
He’s top 10.
The thing with Steph is that he is a unique type of player that changes a team's playstyle to cater to him with his sheer ability to shoot the ball. GSW has perfected that by allowing him to get off the best shots possible with their screens. Even if you put him in some other team, Steph will eventually become their system(you can't ignore his scoring ability) and change the team's culture (work ethic/team mentality). There's a reason he is the first pick for most GMs to build a team around. I know if I'm making an all-time team, Steph's running the point and will probably be my first pick just because of his ability to break down a defence with his gravity & off-ball movement. The other team will also have to guard him from the half-court, which creates more space for his teammates.
I've seen some people backtrack from saying Steph would be top 10/#1 point guard if he won this chip with finals MVP. It don't matter, he might never be given his flowers by other people, but real recognizes real. The legends of the game acknowledge Steph's greatness. And as long we get to witness more of this beautiful brand of basketball, that's enough
Most definitely he is top 10
Of course he's not. Where are the defensive accolades? Who is he taking out of the top 10?
@@BrunO-dy9ro 4x Champion, FInals MVP, 2x MVP, 2x Scoring champ, GREATEST SHOOTER of ALL TIME and still 34 yrs old. all doing this in 6 2 / 6 3 ft. he top 10 stop the hate. Steph > Wilt
Brun0
Hater lmaooo
Witness greatness mf
He’s going to win another too
@@jarebvelasco8955 sure Steph> Wilt but Steph ain’t better than Hakeem, Russell, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, Magic or Tim.
@@BrunO-dy9ro magic has no defensive accolades
Wilt Chamberlain might be the one left off. The other 9 guys on the list have a minimum of 3 rings. But it's almost blasphemous taking off Wilt with his mind-blowing stats, GOAT athleticism, and 4 MVPs.
But it shouldn't be all about ships and that's the mistake most make when ranking its about more than ships the things wilt has done individually is and will forever be unmatched
my list was always MJ, Kareem, Wilt, Kobe, LeBron, then so on and so forth
KDs warriors happened, The weakest move in sports history was needed to stop the Cavs eventual dynasty, therefore curry rings get discredited, can’t be top 10
@@mynutsonyourchin2806 so by your logic any self created superteam that wins a championship should be discredited, so 2012, 2013, 2017, 2018 are "fake rings", that would also discredit Lebron's 2 chips with Miami, right?
@@ervinxhemali2487 no I’m saying the only unfair team in nba history is the KD warriors, every nba analyst would agree
Stephen Curry career highlights
•4x NBA champion(2015,2017-2018,2022)
•NBA finals MVP(2022)
•2x NBA Most Valuable Player(2015,2016)
•8x NBA All-Star(2014-2019,2021-2022)
•NBA All-Star MVP(2022)
•4x All-NBA First Team(2015-2016,2019,2021)
•3x All-NBA Second Team(2014,2017,2022)
•All-NBA Third Team(2018)
•NBA WCF(2022)
•2x NBA scoring champion(2016,2021)
•NBA steals leader(2016)
•50-40-90 club(2016)
•2x NBA 3pt champion(2015,2021)
•NBA All-Rookie First Team(2010)
•NBA All-time 3pt leader
Your a legend for this
He is also the all-star skill challenge winner.
@@joysca2476 why would that matter all star week games won’t be on your accolades
Few players have won both 3pt and skill challenges.
The top 10 have better resumes
4x nba champion, 2x mvp, fmvp, 2x scoring champion, greatest shooter of all time, revolutionized basketball….why is this topic being discussed? Ofc he’s top 10 and I think he about to do it again next season
Steph has always been the best. Interesting he even as big and strong as these other stars and still excites at a very high level. He's been number one for a very long time.
Not top 10
@@RetroNBA42 curry is better than ringless Karl Malone alltime 😅
The Wilt slander! If strength of competition subtract from Wilt's greatness, it's gotta subtract from Russell's, too. Y'all also love to ignore, Wilt didn't play with brute force like Shaq, he was a finesse player on purpose because he wanted to prove he was skilled, not jut bigger and stronger. Wilt would absolutely dominate today's game as a highly skilled big man who would he stronger and more athletic than anyone else in the league. There's just a narrative everyone wants to maintain and it's convenient because Wilt is from the sports world's favorite punching bag.
Wilt would be average in todays game
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 you realize he’s like the strongest NBA player ever right? It doesn’t matter that his competition was trash if he’s literally putting up 100.
Bill is the most overrated NBA player in history. His rings when you provide context are so much less meaningful that it seems. Put Wilt in Bill’s shoes and Wilt would have like 15 rings. Bill has got such mid offensive stats, given the era he played in… how is Wilt averaging 50 and Oscar averaging 36 in the same era while Bill averages 18… Bill also has almost all HOF teammates. He’s not top 10 all time. In saying that, Wilt’s legacy is tainted by his only 2 championships over his career. He makes it as no higher than #10 on my list.
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 Wilt’s build alone makes him an elite player in this era, the only thing he would be subpar in is his skillset which he can develop. Modern day Wilt is a taller slimmer Shaq that dominates from post hooks, floaters and layups. I can see him average like 27 16 and 6 with 3 blocks and 2 steals. People seem to forget that Wilt is a physical specimen, arguably the most physically gifted athlete of all time.
@@Matthew-qw3gw I've said this for years but no one is really ready to have that bill russell overrated convo
“WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY NOW?!” TALK THAT TALK STEPH! LFG BABY! 💍💍💍💍😤 Top 10 WITHOUT A DOUBT 💯
One thing we can say for sure - DurCant was carried by King Curry 😎💯💯
Y’all say anything
@@CuatroCinc0 He ain't lie tho.
So how did Durant get both MVPs then. You sound so ignorant though and you do it with such Confidence. 😂😂
Lying nut hugger without kd they wasn’t beating bron
@@calmdownbruh8518 I mean curry ain’t carry Durant steph had to slow down because klay did not want to give up shots no one carries anyone just say Kd need the Warriors
Steph definitely on the NBA's Mt Rushmore now. He plays with some heart!!! Did what critics say he couldn't do, picked up the team and carried them to the championship.
Over MJ, Lebron, Kareem, and Bill Russell? Naaah
Yeah that boy isnt in that category
@@antinapay u mean magic not bill right
@@antinapay The mount Rushmore is mj,kobe,steph,kareem and bird.
@@ummok720 that’s 5 players and no bron 💀
It baffles me how Max says that Tim Duncan didn't reach the heights that Kobe reached, or wasn't ever the best player in the league for 5 years, when Kobe wasn't either, first half of the 2000s was between Shaq an Timmy, second Half of the 2000s Kobe was top 2, but Lebron was also there reaching the finals with scrubs in 07 and winning an MVP in 09 (and then 2010,12,13). We all love Kobe, but give TD some respect because there is a reason he is considered the best PF of all time, he is a 5xChampion, 2xMVP, a 15xall NBA, 15xall NBA defensive, and is the second youngest finals MVP in NBA history.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Stephen Curry
8. Magic Johnson
9. Shaquille O’Neal
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Bill Russell
12. Larry Bird
13. Kevin Durant
14. Jerry West
15. Karl Malone
Iguodala was right. No 6’2’ PG could’ve pulled off and impacted the game like this. Magic was drafted into the league playing with superstars. Steph had to build his way up and won with two players that aren’t even on the top 75 list.
😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂steph better than shaq and hakeem lmfaoooooo
Worst list I ever seen brain dead LOL
I think he has him higher due to him being 6’2 and leading a team. Look at all the top players ever and their all 6’6 and up. That’s usually the stigma and teams look for guys 6’6 and up to be their star. It’s rare to see a point guard be the main star and lead team like this
How is Karl Malone this high on your list lmfao
Swap wilt and russel
KD is not in the same conversation as Steph cmon man lol
what i like about steph is NO ONE SAW THIS COMING!!! everyone started counting rings for kareem, magic, bird, shaq and lebron from day one. no one could have predicted a skinny kid from davidson DOMINATING the league.
Timmy shouldn't even be considered taken out of the Top 10.
Does this finally make him the Best Point guard ever
Pls take wilt out the top 10
I would like to think so, Magic won with Kareem so that’s a hit on his legacy unfortunately
More or less
@@bwilson21345 did all of magic rings come from kareem? Just asking a question
I think it’s still magic I don’t think anyone will take magic out of there too 5 he was also a 20x better defender than curry is
1. Mike
2. Kobe
3. Bron
4. ShaQ
5. Magic
6. Kareem
7. Duncan
8. STEPHEN CURRY
Goat list
Bron not top 10 all time
@@hilsCyber99 Bron not top 10 all time though
Curry pound for pound greatest nba player of all time💪💪💪💪
Lmaoooo
Lollllllllllllllllllllllll
nba lucky he aint 6'6
You literally cannot talk about the NBA's history without mentioning Steph Curry. At the end of his career, people will see that and put him in the top 10. Take whoever you want out of the list, but you need to get him in there.
@Buff kobe kobe is dead so he cant be in top 10. gotta be alive.
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Tim Duncan
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant
Steph Curry
U removed shaq for steph????? I agree steph is top 10 now, but I wouldn’t replace shaq with steph
But if thats ur personal top ten then I respect it
Lebron not top 10 all time
@@legoatjames4566 steph curry is the new goat 🐐 curry is #1 all time. Curry better than mj,lebron and shaq
The myth that there were no tall guys back then is so stupid. Such a casual take. I'm a young guy. Not some old head. I'm 24 and I still respect the old eras. The 70's, 60's, and 50's. All you gotta do is research. The average NBA height in the 60's was 6'5-6'6. In today's league the average height of the NBA player is 6'6 lol. I can name 20-30 guys that were at least 6'11 that played during Wilt's time.
Steph, Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Russell, and Shaq are all greater than LeBron. They all did it the right way.
Why is are they trying to remove Wilt from the top ten? Oscar Robertson should be the one that gets replaced by Steph imo.
They don't have Oscar in their personal top 10s which is what they're talking about.
The average height of players in the '60s was only slightly shorter than modern players. This panel is ridiculous in what they are saying about the heights of players in the '60s compared to today. One could even argue that the 6os to early 70s was the golden age of centers in the NBA. In '73 they started measuring players with shoes on which makes a significant difference in their listed height. When considering this, centers in Wilt's era were taller - Bill Russell would be 6'11" with shoes on, Walt Bellamy 7', Nate Thurmond 7' or 7'1", Kareem 7'2" or 7'3", etc... These jokers need to get their facts straight.
Even thinking of removing Duncan from the top 10 is such blasphemy
I'm so sick of people saying KD is the best in the league, he isn't. Curry is out here proving who is the best
When it comes to only scoring, kd is unguaardable.
Yes he did
Coming from a bulls fan
He’s EASILY Top 10
Who is you gonna take out, that is the hard question
@@XTheGamer101X
Who’s your top 10?
It’s kind of hard to argue a player that changed the game for who knows how long
Wouldn’t make it to the top 10
@@tiredofbs9178 barely top 10
He's Top three
1: Jordan
2: Bryant
3: Curry
Period
Steph Curry has as many championships as LeBron James in 6 fewer seasons and without switching teams 3 separate times.
Wow Max has a really good top 10 list. He has my exact top 5 players in the same order I do. This is my top 15 list.
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Magic Johnson
8. Tim Duncan
9. Shaquille O'Neal
10. Stephen Curry
11. Larry Bird
12. Hakeem Olajuown
13. Kevin Durant
14. Moses Malone
15. Dwayne Wade
Steph 100% in the top 10 for me. If the NBA is the solar system, Steph is the sun. The whole game gravitates around him and not just while he's on the court but in terms of how the sport is played as a whole. Combine that with the championships, the MVP's, the scoring titles, a FMVP and the fact he's the best shooter ever. My guy has changed the game...
Agree 100% beautiful analogy 💯💯
It's funny how they used the "Wilt was bigger than everyone" to downplay him but use that same angle to uplift Shaq.... "Wilt was 7'1 and the other bigs were 6'8" MJ was 6'6 220 and is regarded as one of thee top 10 athletic NBA players ever.. 4 of those 10 players came after his heydays and the rest we bigs(except DR.J)! The guards of the 90's on average were 6'3-180.... That's literally the same was as Wilt
What do you expect from Espn analysts? They’re all morons.
@maxkellerman you pick and choose. Simple if you that wilt wasn't that impressive because of his height advantage. By that same logic then that means steph height disadvantage makes him even greater. If lebron gets credit for being genetical freak of nature which give him cleat advantages. Then stephs lack of advantages makes his accomplishments that much more impressive. If you are comparing a 6'2 guy to a 6'11 guy in KD what does that honestly say about curry. When you objectively look at it. It's a guy 6'2 with stats comparable to the top. With impact as revolutionary as the top 5 doing it in the "king James era" who the beat number 2 guy 3 times at 6'2 and who you can definitively say you would start your franchise with over 50 percent of your top 10 list. It's clear he is top 5. Probably at that #5
No one in the top 5 has beat another top 5 player more than once. Bron didn't play with those guys. Magic and Kareem never beat mj in the finals. Mj only beat magic once. But curry has beat the #2 3times in his Era had more impact in the #2 guys Era has the same amount of rings in the #2 guys Era. Actually if it wasn't for curry lebron may have 7 or 8 rings and he would be the clear cut goat. He stop something prolific in the lebron Era. Curry is number 5. Period. A wise man once said " I look at greatness by how you faired against your contemporaries"
Well Max his contemporary is the #2 player on that list. How has he faired?
MJ, Kobe, Bron, Kareem, Bill Russell, Magic, Shaq, Bird, Steph, Duncan
Steph Curry was already a top 10 player before this ring he was already multiple league MVP (1st unanimous), Greatest 3point shooter of all time, he transcended the game made it cool to take ill advised shots, we can’t keep saying rings define the rankings if rings were the case why don’t analyst bring up Bill Russell in these discussions of best players?
Max literally brought up Bill Russell lmfao
People kept saying KD was better, but was he? You can’t be better and being amazed by someone you’re better than.. now taller means better? smh.. Steph led the team in scoring while KD was there.. those narratives suck..
If Lebron’s already up there, then yes, because he ahead of Lebron: staying with his OG team and actually making a dynasty, being the best shooter to ever play the game and change the game like Mike did in his era? There’s no question, Full Stop.
He ain’t better than bron
@@Nightcrawler90210 Lol deep argument bro: When you can’t win your own championship without hopping around and making a superteam 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@miki49 bro I think you need to count how many teams Shaq played on,
@@miki49 he did win with the team that drafted him you imbecile 💀
@@devontacosby8593 And how do you think that applies her at all, bro?
Something I just thought about between MJ And Curry is that MJ had to go against the top of the Bulls organization, his tenacity and individual grit of overcoming the tension within the organization is an amazing accomplishment and for all of them to play well when Pippin was having trouble and so on, it is amazing that they were able to do that.
Curry created the culture and there probably has never been a more United organization than the warriors have. Curry creates unity, MJ created a high pressure situation for his team in almost the opposite sense. So the. It just depends on what you value more: grit and the individual intensity of MJ or the Uniting power of Curry to create a team that everyone wants to play on, including Lebron right now. I would say both are so incredible.
Some haters still questioning it
Only warriors fans think he's top 10
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381 steph curry most definitely top 10 all time. Cmon now. 4 rings, 2 time mvp, only unanimous mvp ever. 2 x scoring champ, steal title broke ray Allen all time 3pt record and broke a few mj records we never thought was go get broken. Curry most definitely top 10 all time 💯💯💯 and if he go back to back finals mvps next year 2023 and repeat he move up top 5 all time
@@juwantaylor5293 a lot of players have accomplishments like that in the top 10 lol, it's freaking top 10. I'm still thinking about where to rank him but he's 10th at best.
I genuinely feel like the vast majority of the people who hate on this man the hardest are the lebron fans...
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The NBA should combine all stats from previous leagues and backdate all awards. With that being said this is how a revised top looks.
NBA All-Time Top 10
Championships, MVPS, Finals MVP,
Scoring Titles
1 Mikan 7,6,5,6
2 Jordan 6,5,6,10
3 Abdul-Jabbar 6,6,2,2
4 James 4,4,4,1
5 Russell 11,5,5,0
6 Johnson 5,3,3
7 Duncan 5,2,3
8 Bryant 5,1,2,2
9 O’Neal 4,1,3,2
10 Curry 4,2,1,2
Wilt is the goat when the record books still mention his name 85 times
My man he played in a prehistoric era. The sport as a whole has evolved so much he may have records but theres a reason they cant be beat. Because it just isnt possible with the quality of the league now
@@niallmcgirr7697 stop penalizing someone for being born in a different era
Steph is definitely top 10 all-time now. At minimum, top 15, but I'd say he's top 10.
1. Jordan
2. LBJ
3. Kareem
4. Bill Russell
5. Kobe
6. Magic
7. Duncan
8. Bird
9. Shaq
10. Steph Curry
I agree with this list, the 5-8 spot is a tricky area lol
@@felixvargasjr6678 Lol I had a hard time with 5-8
@@felixvargasjr6678 lbj not top 10 all time
Lbj not top 10 all time
@@juwantaylor5293 go to bed .
many analysts saying curry will never win championship again just shows how much they minimize his greatness.
and him winning another one just proves that.
He Been Did That When He Won The 3 point Title .. He's A Mountain Goat..He's Well In The Top 5 Of Best Players In History... He's UnGardable Period.
You tripping if you said he in top 5 top ten is debatable but 5 that crazy
He’s not top 5 ever in his career wipe your knees
That's why Curry is sitting at the same table as MJ, Kobe, LeBron, James, Bird, magic honestly he got four rings faster than LeBron did
do u think curry is a overall better basketball player than bron?
The disrespect of Wilt Chamberlin is crazy!! The average height of players back when Wilt played is only one inch shorter than the average height of players today. Also, there was no free agency back in the day. The Celtics had a loaded team. There is no way Wilt could have beat that loaded team. For example, James could not beat the KD warriors. Wilt would dominate today's league in a way not seen Shaq. But, Wilt would be even better because he could get better players. Wilt is a top-three player all-time. Even Bill Russel has said that Wilt was better than he was. Wilt was 7'1 275lbs. He ran faster than Jim Brown; could go into the weight room and lift with Arnold.
Wilt would have been great in any era. He's in my top 5 due to how dominant he was as an individual player. Wilt always gets disrespected due to how far back he played in & the recency bias that so many fans have goes against him. The only reason I have Russell ahead of Wilt is due to the rings since 11 is so much greater than 2 rings. Russell's greatness on defense helped the Celtics' offense a lot which people tend to forget due to all the attention being on offense most of the time.
Max is wild.. .TIM DUNCAN!!
Also if steph wasn’t hurt at the end of the year this year he would have got the triple crown this year
He was not winning mvp😂, over Joel jokic n Giannis? Crazy man
"If Steph didn't go in slump"not " if Steph wasn't hurt" he will have a chance to win another MVP
I like how they explained the Curry-KD situation comparing it to Kobe-Shaq
Let the bucket getter do his thing
If hes not in the top 10 to you there is nothing this man can do and you need to really let go of some of these all time greats and appreciate the greatness we're living through.
Nah 😂 he ain't In it. You should stop being prisoner of the moment and appreciate history for what it is.
He is at least up there with Shaq and Larry bird and maybe Kobe based on his individual accomplishments, and they are in most people's top 10. But his impact on how the game is played is pretty much number 1 in history, so I give him an edge for that. So probably 7th or 8th of all time. I would not put him over Magic Johnson, Russell, wilt, LeBron, Jordan or Kareem.
Stephen curry is OFFICIALLY the face of the NBA and the best player in the league. He took over lebron's era.
Jordan ( 1992) Kobe ( 2002) Lebron ( 2012) Curry ( 2022)
Here’s a fun fact: Steph Curry is the only person to win MVP 3 times in a season
Didn’t MJ win MVP, All star MVP and FMVP in ‘96
wcf mvp doesn’t count lmao… bron would have like 10 of those🤣
For a player to be considered top 10 all time; they should have to be on the "NBA All Defense team" at least 3 times to even be considered proving it was not a fluke but a pattern. The real top ten should be; Michael, Lebron, Kobe, Kareem, Giannis, Olajuwon, Kawhi, Robinson, Bird. These player were all the primary scorer and the best defender consistently! Just saying.
So why is Magic Johnson in the Top 10 when he never made all defense team? He led the league in steals 2x but is not a great defender. Explain to me why all Defensive teams show if your a great defender or not. Chris Paul is 9x all defense is he a better defender than a Tony Allen or a Michael Cooper? No. Rudy Gobert has 6 all defense and has 3 DPOY is he the best defender in the NBA? No. Just because your all defensive doesn't mean your a great defender.
Wherever you rank Steph in your top-10, he will forever be known as one of the few who changed the way the game is played. That is a very short list to be on.
1.Jordan
2.Lebron
3.K.A.J
4.Magic
5.Bill
6.Bird
7.Kobe
8.Shaq
9.Duncan
10.Steph
Steph is the new goat 🐐 . Curry is best player all time then mj #2 kobe #3
Yes, He’s in the Top 10
All Star Game MVP, WC Playoff MVP, College Graduate, Finals MVP it’s been a good year for the Chef
This was Curry hardest championship to win in mg opinion
Not really. Boston had it more tough getting to the finals than the gsw.
The unanimous top 11 should be: jordan russell lebron kareem bird hakeem shaq wilt curry magic duncan. I don't know who to remove though.
Lebron not winning another championship is the best thing ever
What ya'll issue w/ lebron .lmao , yall have to hate this man
Why do you virgins have to always Bring up Bron? Stop choking on his sack for a sec
He doesn’t need to lol
Yall are so weird with this obsession over Bron😂😂😂
Warriors fans wonder why no one wants to see them win🤦♂️
If max could have a perfect top 5 without criticism, it would be:
1. LeBron
2. LeBron
3. Lebron
4. LeBron
5. Iggy
I think Wilt and Bird are the players you could argue most about to overtaken by Steph.
Bird was the more consistently great Player than Steph, with just a lot less injuries (9 all nba first vs 4) and he definitely was the better defender and rebounder. He is much taller and heavier though, and Steph is obviously the better scorer, shooter, on par with him in passing, but has won more chips.
For Wilt. He is likely the most dominant player in NBA history, but he didn’t win many titles, his stats all dropped towards the playoffs, and he is notorious for stat padding. Yeah he was really great, but him chasing points and rebounds was a lot like Westbrook chasing triple doubles. Great stats, but doesn’t do much towards winning games.
Shaq and Duncan have the 3 FMVPs, and Kobe has 5 rings.
If Curry were to win another chip or another regular season MVP, we can talk about Top 5 to 8. As of now, he is 9th at best, 11th at least.
I will take out Oscar
Duncan has 5 rings and dominated a lot more than people think (even faced with Shaq), too underated in my opinion.
I could see Steph overtaking Wilt, but not Larry. As you said Larry is just the better overall player. I have Steph around #13. Number of championships is still geared towards a team achievement than an individual one, and as much as I like Steph as a 3pt shooter, there are better overall scorers than him. What hurts Steph compared to the Top 10 and Top 12 is that they are more complete players than Steph. They are better rebounders, passers, and much better defenders than him, overall. I wouldn't put Steph over say Kobe or Shaq who I have at #11 and #12 respectively, because while Steph is the better 3pt shooter, Kobe and Shaq were just better overall players, especially Kobe who was a much, much better defender than Steph.
The top 10 it's so easy c'mon guys
1 MJ
2 LBJ
3 KAREEM
4 MAGIC
5 KOBE
6 DUNCAN
7 STEPHEN CURRY
8 BILL RUSSELL
9 SHAQ
10 BIRD
Prove a best top 10! It's impossible considering everything involves the game, stats, being a game changer, legacy etc
A top 10 might be easy for a fool only a fool would put a man number one like MJ ! who lost to Isaiah bird and magic in their prime and took 6 years to win his first championship no it's not easy Einstein You better learn the game before you start making a top 10 or else you're always going to be embarrassed got it? Get it Duh
This is a tough question. Steph is great but who comes off your top 10? I guess every individual (that don't have Steph in their top 10) has to ask themselves is he better than the guy you have at #10?
right. kuz the top 10 list i be seeing is not good.
Wilt
yes, he is
@@BrokeEnt504 I feel most people have the same 10 to 12 guys. Just in different orders.
@@TheUncannyOne Ok, you going there? Lol. I feel like that's legit because Steph doubled him up on the chips. I got to think about that one though. It's Wilt "Career average 30 and 20" Chamberlain.
Goats in order MJ-kobe-bron-curry-bill-magic-bird-shaq- duncan-wilt. Criteria: raw eye test for skill/impact on the game/resume
You can't take Duncan out of top 10. If I put magic at PG, Jordan at SG, LeBron at SF, Duncan at PF, Shaq at C, no chance of losing to any of the other top 10 contestants. The other contestants Steph at PG, Kobe at SG, Larry SF, Bill at PF, Kareem at C. Close game yes but the first choice will win in game 6 maybe 7.
I'm taking out wilt and Oscar
Edit: I was deciding between wilt or Kareem but I gotta go with Kareem
Jordan
Lebron
Kareem
Magic
Russell
Kobe
Steph
Shaq
Bird
Duncan
Wilt
Oscar
Hakeem
Dr. J
Durant
Yeah curry is top 10 wilt can go he’s basically a myth at this point
Bill Russell lifetime average is 16 points a game! Russell never shot 50 percent from the field in 13 years of playing basketball 🏀
MJ is the GOAT of all sports.
Wilt is the actual G.O.A.T of all sports
@@ericthautubertv3802 more like The F.R.A.U.D of all sports, the dude couldn’t show up in the playoffs to save his life.
Wayne Gretzky is the most statistically dominant
Never forget Rodman's quote on Bird in 1987: “He’s not God. He ain’t the best player in the NBA, not to me. He’s white. That’s the reason he gets it the MVP award. Nobody gives Magic Johnson credit. He deserved it last year, too. I don’t care. Go ahead and tell him. You’ll put it in the paper anyway.”
In a couple years, Larry Joe Bird might get kicked off. I consider Larry as clutch as Michael Jordan. Deeper range. Taller. But he won 3 rings and was only good for 8 years. Prime lasted 4 (1983-1987).
Better question best possible 5 on 5 game ?
Here’s mine:
Lebron Steph Giannis Tim Duncan Kareem vs Jordan Shaq Kobe Magic Hakeem
What happens if he wins 5?
Top 5
1.Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Steph curry
8 Larry bird
9 bill Russell
10. Shaq
11. Wilt
Lebron not top 10 all time
Yes. He has.
If Klay can win a finals mvp. The splash brothers will go down as the greatest backcourt ever
Let's stop disrespecting Wilt.
I would put Steph firmly at #10 just behind LeBron
Kareem
MJ
Wilt
Kobe
Magic
Shaq
Duncan
Russell
LeBron
Steph
1. Bron
2.MJ
3.Kareem
4. Magic
5. Larry
6. Bill
7. Tim
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. Curry
Its not reasonable to have him and higher than 8. No hate on curry just being real.
Curry is the new goat 🐐 curry is best player of all time curry #1 best player ever curry the new goat 🐐
Nah I still got him 12th behind Hakeem
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Bill Russell
Kobe Bryant
Larry Bird
Shaquille O'Neal
Stephen Curry
Tim Duncan
Oscar Robertson
The Top 10 debate can be debated forever.
Lebron not top 10 all time
Recent bias is strong with this one
Curry is not top 10 all time yet, but he definitely is top 15. My top 10 goes to:
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Shaq
9. Bill Russell
10. Wilt
The fact that we are now debating if Steph is top 10 all time or not is in itself a testament to how insanely good Steph is though. If he wins one more chip as the star player on his team then he’ll break top 10 for sure.
Bro has Kobe at 5 💀