Waging war on the Jamaican patty: Canada’s bizarre beef with the delicious snack | Patty vs Patty
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Patty vs. Patty tells the story of Toronto’s bizarre 1985 “patty wars,” when Jamaican-Canadian bakers went head-to-head with the federal government over the name of their beloved beef patty. #CBCShortDocs #PattyvsPatty
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At the time, the Meat Inspection Act determined a beef patty to be what goes in a hamburger. It could contain only meat and seasoning and it couldn’t be encased in dough or a crust. Therefore, a Jamaican patty - widely known as a flaky pastry with a spiced beef filling - didn’t meet the criteria.
Bureaucrats thought calling hamburger patties and Jamaican patties the same thing would be confusing to Canadians - despite the fact that the latter were already popular in cities like Toronto due to a wave of immigrants who arrived from the Caribbean in the ‘60s and ‘70s.
Food inspectors from Consumer and Corporate Affairs visited patty vendors across Toronto, demanding that the name of the savoury fare be changed. The officials threatened fines of $5,000 (more than $11,000 in today’s dollars) if the shops didn’t comply by changing their menus, packaging and signs to, well, anything except “patty.”
The vendors resisted. They refused to sell the patty under any other name.
Michael Davidson, the young manager of Kensington Patty Palace, found himself at the centre of the controversy when community outrage propelled the story into the media spotlight. Davidson made headlines in newspapers and on local TV news. Politicians got involved; lawyers got involved; both the Canadian and Jamaican governments got involved.
Eventually, bureaucrats and representatives for the vendors met at a so-called “patty summit” to find a resolution that would avoid an international crisis between Canada and Jamaica.
Told from Davidson’s perspective, Patty vs. Patty weaves together first-hand anecdotes, archival footage and satirical re-enactments to tell this story of bureaucracy gone amok, community resistance and a delicious pastry - officially known as the Jamaican patty ever since.
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"Selling like hotcakes, hmm... I wonder if I just broke another law." - Reporter lol lol
I actually laughed out loud!!
That woman on the phone blaming McDonald's is HILARIOUS!! 😂😂😂
Must be Burger King, then 😂
These people's got a history of finding something wrong with everything we are doing well not working under them minding their own busy by the way I ate my last one today
@@gcw2007 😂😂😂
I couldn’t stop laughing! “Must be Burger King!” 😂
This was so entertaining. That “hmm” “hmm” between him and the inspector had me rolling lol
That hotcakes reporter is a legend..."hotcakes, I wonder if I broker another law" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
First, I truly appreciate the casting of talent with authentic Jamaican accents. This is RARE. I was born and raised in Toronto (first generation Canadian of Jamaican heritage). I was completely unaware of this Caribbean-Canadian history. This fight against our patty is a true example of the Jamaican saying, "we likkle, but we talawah"! If you didn't know before, Jamaicans do not back down from a fight, especially if you come trouble us with your nonsense. Big up to the owners of Kensington Patty Palace for not backing down and the tremendous community support.
Bummmbaclaatt You know you at the right place in the 6 shottie! We got badman Drake with the Accent makin fiyah impression
@@technicalactivity No. Stop that nonsense. Yuh deh mek wi look like im eediots due to yuh foolish display. Learn to represent yuh better in a better way instead of carrying on like such a rass idiot fi everyone to see. A dyam shame yuh deh bring on wi people. Do betta man.
one day they will find me surrounded by empty Patti wrappers laying on the floor with a smile on my face in a food coma mmmmmmmmm 😅
Don't backndown why is the Queen still the head of state of Jamaica lol
She isn't head anymore... and I suspect not for long for any crown either...
As a Jamaican I've never heard of this and also always wondered why foreigners call them Jamaican patties, either way I really love how this documentary portrays Jamaicans and used our real accents.
Oh yes a very big deal just like the group that determines along the lines what can be called a sandwich. Known about them for the longest time when I was in school from the 90s to early 2000s.
Thanks for bringing us the patties I love 'em!
I remember this moronic bureaucratic escapade. A patty had only two meanings in 1980s Toronto., and we all knew what the Jamaican kind was. It remains a hot and ready treat in many convenience stores. You can buy them in every grocery store. I have some in my freezer now! I am a white person who lives in a small town covered in snow. We all thought this was a very dumb moment in our history.
@@Nunavuter1 I'd love to know how much money (provided by taxpayers... just like Michael Davidson) is spent pursuing nonsense like this. And let's say nothing is done about it - I wonder what is the worst that can come of it.
Here we are, almost 40 years later and I'm sure money is still being wasted on things like this. Nothing has changed... except pot is finally legal.
Likewise! This production was well put together. Who would ever think there would be a patty beef ? 😁
Love jamaican food. Patties are super versatile. Beef, lamb, chicken, veggie. . . fits in your pocket, makes you fed and happy. There is heart in all good Jamaican food. I tried patties made by Jamaicans in London, had patties in Jamaica, Jamaican cuisine is amazing. Love from Poland!
This would make a hilarious comedy movie as it already is… a retelling with a big movie budget would be awesome. So many lessons learned here! Great story!
I'm here for it!!
The fact that he did not mention it to his parents, they found out on vacation lol. Never knew this was ever an issue. Very well written and acted. Now I want a Jamaican Patty.
You never want to bring in the parents. They'll leave it in your hands....like his did.
As a registered old fart (I'm 50+) I remember how difficult it was to communicate between countries back then. In some cases you might even have to book time slots for telephone calls, so it may just have been hard to let them know. Thank goodness for modern telecommunication and Tim Berners-Lee.
Chicken patties are my favorite. There are a few places in that I have tried and they are all very delicious.
@@bwj1158 Spicy beef, mild, chicken, vegetable and soy, I love them all. The best in NYC (back in the day) were in Brooklyn and Queens 😋
Right? I bet they're delicious.
Calling a doughnut a sugar circle.....🤣🤣🤣
He's right. Nothing kills feelings for food like a technical lawyer drafted read-out.
I died when he said that 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
More like a sugar bagel 😂
Sugar torus
Beef patty was one of the first cultiural food I was introduced to when I first came in Canada as an immigrant. There were many students who buys them from the corner store close to our school and I got curious and my other friends said they were good and that i should try it. Needless to say, we now have occassional arguements over the best beef patty in town. 🤣🤣🤣 ❤🇵🇭
Wow I’m from New York City and we grew up on beef patties with coco bread. I never knew there was a back story for it let alone a “Patty War”. The Government is a damn trip I cannot stand it. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.
It's Canadas government, they're always obsessed with controlling everyone's lives, but claim they don't control the economy and are not to blame for Canada homeless or out of control costs of food and housing.
Canada was under the Tories back then, so... no surprise there.
This was so well done, my mom remembers the patty war. She said it was a huge thing in the Jamaican community. She thought it was non sense because you know the difference.
This documentary was perfectly done! From the acting, music, humor, but mostly the story telling from the Kensington Patty Palace manager. A movie of this would be so inspiring and fun to watch.
directed by Wes Anderson
@@amooser5839 Brilliant idea!
This would definitely make a good "based on real events" movie!
I agree!
So true!! i love this documentary!
Not only informative but a great window into Jamaican culture. Love the authentic accents.
Sri Lanka, a former British colony as well, also has patties - they are very similar to those shown here. They are typically deep fried, sometimes baked (most people don't have ovens), and filled with fish, vegetables, or meat. They tend to be slightly smaller, but have the same shape and the iconic fork marks around the edges. Many other interesting baked/fried finger foods (referred to as "short eats") to be found there as well - "fish buns" and "chinese rolls" are a few other local favorites. Loved learning about this patty war in Canada and the ultimate resolution in favor of the Jamaican community!
Interesting, first I've heard of this. Sounds delicious
You can find these in Nigeria and Ghana as well, also former British colonies and these have a different flavor profile in each country.
@@DennisSchmitz meat pie, not patties, patties are a combination of pastries and other stuff, meat pie being one, ravioli, the patty(ground beef), and Jamaican spices
A deep fried patty is called an empanada.
I never heard of this. This is the kind of black history I want to hear. We're not always victims.
I think it hit home for them when he called the doughnut a "sugar circle"
I remember this. I was a teen. we were outraged
Yes! Saying donuts a sugar circle was an home run hit out the park!!And then saying “bringing a contribution we feel that we can add”
I want a sugar circle and a patty right now
We're not black. We are brown...
true
I'd be pissed if I couldn't have my beef patties.
_Why is a Hamburger called a Hamburger if there is no Ham in Beef burgers?_
He got me dying when he said call the poutine when you can call it fries with sauce and cheese bits or even calling a donut a sugar circle.
I’m pissed at the fact that the bureaucrats even brought this up. Useless idiots do tend to franchise their idiocy in govt…
Also, Fun fact - Hamburgers get their name from Hamburg, Germany
@@gellertberenyi5908 Hot dogs, Frankfurters get their name from Frankfurt Germany. All the best from Germany!
Because the meal came originally from Hamburg, Germany. Expatriats brought the "Sandwich, Hamburg Style (meaning a Brötchen mit Frikadelle (Bun with meatloaf, more or less))" to the U.S.; same goes for Wiener (Sausage-style from Vienna, Wiener Würstchen - Austria) and Frankfurters (a sausage-style made in Frankfurt, you guessed it, Germany). It's basically lazy/convenient naming
hamburger originated from Hamburg. it's their variation of a sandwich that's made in Hamburg. Hamburgers at that time was probably too popular so it got international attention.
@@gellertberenyi5908 Compliance is the goal, not a tool to help you run an organisation.
i’m dying over 15:37 it’s so petty 😂 “hm.” “HM.” hahahah
This was a really creative way to explain the history of the delicacy in Canada. Well done.
Not sure why this ended up in my newsfeed but boy am I grateful. This documentary was well made and informative. Great example of fighting for cultural differences and their place in Canada.
Best random vid I clicked on this year
They don’t call it a hamburger patty ffs. Should have let them alone.
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Usually not a fan of re-enacted stuff - but this was really great!!
Craving a jamaican patty big time right now haha
nice one CBC!
I didn't like it. it was too exaggerated..like the lady deliberately dropping her H's
I'm made to look silly because it is a very silly thing.
you are not the only one lol. there sooooo good.
Somebody should turn it into a tv pilot & make a show about that Jamaican neighborhood in the 1980s. In America, they're doing a bunch shows set in the 80s & remakes of popular 80s shows.
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This is so well done! I love it!
This documentary deserves an award for production, directing and acting. I mean that honestly. I truly enjoyed watching and I didn't even know the patty war ever happened until I watched.
That meeting happened the day after I was born lol. Loved this, so well done and the skipping back and forth between old news coverage and dramatization is really cool.
😊It couldn’t have been more exact to the story, it was a BIG deal then.
Lol! I love how his parents were like, "You're taking up a fight against the government!? Well, good for you, we're supporting you!"
What great parents!
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I also liked when they said "We'll be monitoring the situation from here" - so parental and authoritarian, lol
Most immigrants like myself grew up on these patties, so it's as much a part of Jamaican heritage as it is part of Canada as a whole.
I used to have these practically every school lunch and they formed an important part of my Canadian identity. As a matter of fact I just spent the last three hours unsuccessfully looking for a place that sells Jamaican patties...in Seoul, Korea... thanks CBC, thanks very much.
Have you checked for Jamaican Turnovers in Korea? 😂
It’s not a part of Canadian heritage at all, maybe a part of Ontario culture but not anywhere west of them lol
It's pasty, call it a pasty
Hey Anton!
Fancy meeting you here
From Toronto, I'm not even Jamaican but I grew up eating patties and still do today. Love them.
I’m in an uproar all by myself right now after watching this. This was some kind of insanity in Canada in 1985. I’m outraged, but I’m glad he held out to preserve the Jamaican culture and that there was at least 1 sane person in the government. But unfortunately I now have to get a bit ticked off when people tell me that one of those dry, flavorless things they sell in the pizzerias is a “Jamaican beef patty”. Because everyone now claims they’re selling you an “authentic” one. I grew up eating patties in the US made by Jamaican immigrants and I ate them in Jamaica as a kid also. So I KNOW what a “patty” is supposed to taste like and that’s not it. They didn’t even sell “mild” patties when I was a kid either. They just sold you a patty and it was always spicy. One of my favorite foods as a kid. Followed by ackee and saltfish… of course!
This is so funny because I knew of a place in Montreal in the Outremont district around that time & it just disapeared nowhere to be found by the early 90's. Makes me wonder about the impact this could've had on them...
This was so well made! Not only was I entertained but I was informed of the history in the most Caribbean way possible. Loving this, thx you 💛🇯🇲🇨🇦
This format is fantastic
Yaaaaazzzz..I couldn't stop watching
I feel the same 😊
Lived in Jamaica, Jamaican patty is part & parcel Jamaica.
Tell the rude intruders to mind own business.
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Love this documentary. It balances a perfect blend of real interviews and tongue in cheek "re-enactments" to a perfect final product. Just like the patty, a perfect balanced that is both spiced and feels like home, while not putting on any airs. Delicious!
Well done.
This was highly entertaining and totally EXCELLENT!😂
This doc was so charming, funny and informative. I love this so much.
This was brilliantly done, I’ve never been so thoroughly entertained! I’m glad things were resolved. I’m officially starving and want a patty!
So agree! I shared it on Facebook.
we nuh have dat
@@boilingsnowwater2121 Nuh have wat now
I’m at 3:02 and a patty violation based on terminology might be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of can’t wait to see where this goes.
@@giuseppegnazzo3154 this happened in 1985 my friend! It’s long since been resolved (see mini documentary in full)
So much humor in this😂. I'm so glad it was resolved and business continued.
This was super well done, informative and the transition between the acting and real life 1985 footage.
Great doc well done. Shoutout to the Creators, Actors, Editors, etc. that put this together.
This doc hits all the right notes. Funny, informative, and contextually relevant today.
Jamaicans -- we stand up for our rights no matter how big the adversary.
I’m glad they got a resolution they could live with. This piece was very well done and very entertaining.
I often wondered how it became the Jamaican beef patty. So proud of my countrymen willingness to fight for our authenticity. 🇯🇲🇯🇲💯
This was so well done. Thank you for not watering down the accents. That's so important. I am so proud of everyone involved with the project. Thanks for reaching us our history. Love from USA.
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Absolutely, agree. The accent captured the story of little Patty.
I did notice the increased prevalence of calling it "Jamaican" patty here in the USA but had no idea that it all started with happenings in Canada. That was an elegant solution and wonderful compromise.
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I'm from NYC and I've only ever called them beef patties.
@Graf von Losinj Actually reacism doesn't have to be fueled by hate - it's really a form of discrimination against a race/culture with lesser power. An enforced legislation that imposes unfair regulation, not on an actual business practices or the quality of the product, but on the cultural nature of their product and community, is most certainly a form of institutionalized racism. No real hate, just discrimination at its best
Toronto is such a diverse city !
The video made me hungry
@Graf von Losinj laws needing to be fixed because of these situations are institutionalized racism. It's a law ignorant of cultures and language. Funny for a dual language COMMONWEALTH country to do this as plenty of patties/pasties in the UK are also pastries.
I was DELIGHTED to come across this history. Loved the presentation. It was so original.
What pisses me off so much is that the Health Inspector wasted time doing this instead of going for actual violations
I am so proud to have worked on this short doc! To be a part of history's history... " the plight of the Jamaican Patty in Canada" I was truly honored! #styleteam FOR THE KULTCHA!!
You did awesome
Jamaican patties are overrated, Empanadas are better
@@kingbullyrock8739 boy bye
@@kingbullyrock8739 ✋🏾Whatever ...🤡
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What a great story! Amazing son that stood up for not only his culture, but his heritage, and parents! Well done!
He can practice his culture back in Jamaica.
@@skipfluck4299 Assuming that your reply is unabashed intolerance, ignorance or racism; just what 'culture' should he be practicing?
Something OG Canadian? Which of the FNIM cultures should we settle on? Do you practice it? Or are you a practitioner of that most noble of imposed cultures: the White European Descended Occupier?
This is such an amazing little documentary. So well done. I love the story telling and every person on the screen.
This was done in a great way! These people should make more historical programming. It drew me in. I didn't know about Patty's, but now I wanna go find one! Lol! This was done superbly! Love it!!
CBC, I really have to say, well done.
I'm a Jamaican who lives in Jamaica, and never been to Canada but I'm obsessed with your marketplace stories. And then you guys come with this!
You're a truly outstanding network!
Again, well done! 🙌🏾👏🏾
watch the market place documentry of subway chicken,it will grab you between the legs 🤨
@@EthanReeceGrantWorth I don't like how that sound but I'll watch it
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We may have just witnessed one of the most perfect short films of all time. As a Jamaican this hit different 🔥🔥
The tone is absolutely perfect. Comical without condescension and totally authentic, respectful and honest from all perspectives.
Loved this!!! So entertaining and well made! 👏👏👏👏
This was entertaining and informative. I also truly appreciate the authentic accents from the actors!
I didn’t know poor little Patty had to fight racism like us. 😂
Lol. Every weh we tun mackah jook mi.
Good 1🤣🤣🤣
And de skin is nat even black 😂😂🤣🤔🤔
Right?!
This is quite funny 😆
Imagine calling a doughnut a sugar circle 😂
This has been the best good feel story of 2022.
I needed this uplift
Iré ☺️
It’s like asking us to change Ackee & Saltfish to Fruit & Fish!!! 😂🤣😂 All jokes aside, never knew this went down and proud that they fought for what was right!!!! Imagine calling a patty a Caribbean meat pie?!?!? Like What The Helll?!?!?
Jah jah🤣
Exactly TK Weekes.
Lol fruit and fish
Fruit and fish no sah 🤣🤣
@@Karamellek 😂🤣😂 Kameeks!!!!! Social Media Platforms is the place to bump into old friends now, no longer in person. Hope you are doing well Love. 💜
What makes me sick is how these bureaucrats hide behind this facade of politeness. Yet they want to brutally enforce these policies.
Absolutely, Now line up for your mandatory 4th covid booster, and be sure to wear your mandatory mask.
wish they would do the same and enforce laws to punish criminals.
They would be more than willing to send you to jail or worse.
@@JacobthePoshPotato but not for actual crimes half the time.
It's a reenactment. The affect of the women who portrayed the inspector may not have been how it was in reality
Great example of why CBC is worth preserving. Thanks to all
Really enjoyed and am thankful for this doc.
I ate a patty on a cruise ship when I was working for Royal Caribbean. The security officer - the kindest lady there - made patties for crewmembers and staff. Me being Chilean recognized the flavor profile as an empanada, but it was an authentic, different flavor combination. I loved watching this video and learning more about the struggle of being culturally recognized.
@@sdalby9127 not the same thing!! I guess you've never had one!
They're variants of the old British beef minced hand pie, with Jamaican spices added, they're not empanadas.
Canada does this with patties, but claims it hasn't got any clue about the housing market corruption.
Oooookay, I'm an American so I definitely grew up with McDonald's beef patties. However, my dad lived in Jamaica as a boy, and he'd take us to Jamaican bakeries for patties and bulla.
I was never confused about the difference between a beef patty from McDonald's and a Jamaican patty.
The idea that "there would be confusion if we allowed both to be called patties" is just absurd!
Kafkaesque.
The confusion was probably forced by lobbyists. Canada requires that a beef patty be 100% beef. If McDonald's wants to mix in filler in their patty this is the law they follow, arguing that this shop and many others aren't forced to follow the law might help their case.
@none name have fun eating your American soy burgers.
@@killax7 lol you're just pointing yourself out. No normal person tows the rope of bureaucrats
So your dads Jamaican and you’re half or whole… you grew up eating burgers from McDonald’s okay. We don’t call them beef Patties so I’m thrown way off. But okay.
This was cool as hell, you need to make more mini docs like this
Thanx for posting this. Informative and entertaining.
This was a great history lesson. Loved the comedic approach to this as well. Also let this be a message to the media that YES! YOU CAN DEFINITELY CAST/HIRE ACTUAL JAMAICAN ACTORS IN TV, FILM, ETC INSTEAD OF HIRING FRAUDS!!!
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Exactly! 😒
Real patois vs the jafakin accent which sounds Irish. Not to mention it’s not laced with stereotypical terms such as hey mon, cool runnings, or irie.
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what? black actors are massively overrepresented compared to the actual population
That must be the most wholesome documentary I have ever watched. Kudos to the creators of this masterpiece!
They lost me when they brought up the absurdity of a legal definition of a "patty" being institutionalized racism. That view is literally racist itself. The irony and ignorance.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I did not feel that this was the point of the documentation. But I am sad to hear that this is all that you got from it. :(
i absolutely love this film, thank you!
One of the best stories I seen in UA-cam.
I’m Australian and patties have an important place in my heart: I cant explain why, but they remind me of Australian meat pies. The flavors are so different, but I love meat fillings in pastry.
When I am in a US city without an Australian bakery I immediately look for a Jamaican establishment.
I'm Australian also, agreed- my first thoughts were "thats a Pastie or Pie.."
There are also Cajin Patties they are the US version they are super spicy gotta have em with sour cream. And Empanadas are basically the same thing but fried.
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One of my favorite jobs had Jamaicans, Haitians, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans all in one shop just sharing our versions of meat-filled pastries and other kinds of foods. Awesome time!
Meat pies are English you bloody thieves.
This is the best short doc I’ve seen in a while, the casting, writing and reenactment of critical events in this story. I love Jamaican Pattys and thrilled to see Michael put up the fight he did to conserve a vital part of his culture. Well done👏
It was made like a school education video but I enjoyed it
I loved the way it was artificially period-appropriate; from the 4:3 aspect ratio, to the old 480i scanned 'look'. The editing and writing multiply its polish tenfold. Award-winning material, I say.
Thanks for showing us this piece of history, much love and appreciation from Jamaica
So well done! Funny and informative.
I was a teenager then and I had no idea this happened in Toronto.
I had all sorts emotions watching this documentary - happy, pride, anger, confusion. Making of an amazing documentary.
This story is a gem!💎
I lived in Kensington from the late 80's to the early 90's, ate hundreds of Patties from that store. Didn't know about this silly assed grief they had to put up with. Was a dozen for six bucks back then. Just seeing the market back then and old Spadina hit me in the feels.
Ahhh...European Meats WHO'S GOT A NUMBER?!!
CONGRATS! Well done retelling of an important & relevant historical events in the Jamaican/Caribbean community in Toronto. Much appreciated indeed!
More tellings like this are needed in Canadian media to accurately reflect the multicultural diversity in our city!
Love this story, Thank you for Sharing it! 😁🤙🏼🪂
One of the BEST documentaries I have ever watched 👍🏽
As a NYC area kid this brings back incredible memories! Washing down a patty with a Jamaican style cream soda😋
This video has given me every reason to never pass Jamaican patties again without purchasing at least 10!
Crazy thing even in the US we call it the Jamaican patty too. Great snack food!
Wonderful story, told magnificently!
Congratulations from Puerto Rico.
Can you imagine not allowed to call it a patty? That would make the ancestors turnover (no pun intended) in their graves. The solution was a wonderful compromise; and it solidified the patty by giving Jamaican ownership to it by referring to it as a JAMAICAN PATTY. Well done.
Well I understand it from the government perspective. It would be like if some store sold soda but it soda was new Zealand for apple juice.
Then maybe going back to Jamaica is the best idea.
I remember the patty war very clearly. I was glad that the patty bakers stood their ground and fought and got the Jamaican patty to remain as part of our culture. If the bakers of the patty had changed the name to facilitate Consumer Affairs, Jamaican patty bakers in Canada would have lost their claim to the patty (to make, sell and distribute). Other non-Jamaican baking companies were waiting in the wings to take over that niche in the marketplace. Often wondered what had happened to Kensington Patty Palace - now I know. Use to get my hard dough bread from Kensington Patty Palace and of course along with my patty(s). Great Short Doc - enjoyed it.
Drake is about to buy a Patty shop! It was in the news today! I'm not sure how i feel about that.
@@sunshinehand1223 that's hilarious 😆
@@missdorr4947 Yeah!.. That might be the end, of our JAMAICAN ORIGINAL PATTIES!.. Drake, DJ Khaled and etcetera. Needs to stay out our biz!..
Watch out! Folks will take over! Let them represent and pay up!...🙏🙏💜💚💜💚💖💞😊
@@missdorr4947 I just hate the idea!... As Jamaicans, we need to set standards!... Like they do in other countries!.. Let's continue to stand militant and vigilant!...🗣🔊👊💚🙏🙏🙅♂️💜💚💖💕💞 Protect ours!!!..
@@sunshinehand1223 he is going to fight for his to be called drake patties
This was an awesome documentary! So well made and entertaining. I used to get the patties for lunch in high school while growing up in NYC one of my favorite foods. 🇯🇲 ❤️
Big ups this was informative and well done .
We had a Golden Krust on Nostrand Avenue in Brooklyn. I would buy from there, and also from our Pizza place because they put mozerella inside the patty, and melt it in the oven. Both were delicious.😊
@@yaaharriott 🤤
This was very good. Mi learn so much! Zeen. Thank you!
The way you captured the "hm" at 7:27 was perfection 😅 These little reenactments were so good for telling the story!! I hope this documentary brought as much pride and joy to the Davidson family and other Jamaican bakers in Canada, as it was entertaining for me to watch it!
This is some of the best stuff out of the CBC in ages!
Bruh this was so well done. I cackled 😂😂
I have never found a documentary as enjoyable. FANTASTIC WRITING like subscribed
This is what CBC should be about, very well produced and edited, keep doing this CBC
I love this, I was in Toronto but I never heard of this Patty war... but I do remember suddenly around the mid 80's everyone started talking about Jamaican Patties and we started seeing them everything from supermarkets to subway station snack to corner stores. I love how this was championed as common sense over bureaucracy
What a great piece. Very funny. I laughed out loud. Better than some sitcoms on TV. I love Patty's. I wish there was a local place that makes them. I've made them myself and it's a bit of an involved process. I made them for my Superbowl party one year and everyone freaked out over them.
If all documentaries were like this we would all be bright. Kept me watching n wanting to watch n learn more great job 👏🏽 I’m from Kingston Jamaica n I approve well funny and educational
This was delightful! This yank never thought that learning about Jamaican-Canadian culinary history could be so entertaining.
Bravo! 👏 😃
I am going to share this on my Guyanese, FB. This man needs to be honoured in Jamaica. Long live our Jamaican Patty.
Much love and respect to our Jamaican brothers and sisters from Trinidad 🇹🇹....really enjoyed this
WHO OWNS THE WORD, "patty" and how did _they_ get ownership of the word, and have the power to command that NO OTHER PEOPLE can use the word, if it's not being used way _they_ think it should be used?
This is absolutely insane!
I love this story.
I had no idea this had happened.
The FDA is in charge of defining what words mean when it comes to consumables. Milk, for example, underwent a definition change to be more specific when nut milks became available in grocery stores. The new specific definition of milk is liquid that comes from the mammary glands of ANIMALS. This means nut milks are NOT considered milk, and is why you will see nut milks labeled as nut beverages, mylks, or have milk in the name like the brand Milkadamia which is a milk substitute made from macadamia nuts.
Proof Jamaicans have a strong influence on Toronto culture 🥶
I always assumed foreigners called it a "Jamaican patty" to specify its origins, not because of legal altercations
lol that doc was so fun. very well done
This is Gold! Outstanding. .. .
A Canadian Heritage moment. Well fought battle for common sense
Bruh 🤣
"Canadian"
Canadian heritage mins are racist propaganda w the intention of putting yt ppl in the role of the hero and to downplay or diminish contributions from poc. Google it. It's true.
#Facts ✔
@@NunyaBey what should I Google "are Canadian heritage moments racist?" lol