A Unique Perspective on Tesla FSD
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2024
- I worked on the development of Unmanned System for over 20 years and in this video I gave a little history of those systems before taking Tesla's new FSD V12.3.3 for my first drive.
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See Dr. Know-It-All for more on this story:
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What do I think of Tesla FSD:
1. I am impressed with how it drives (not robotic)
2. I think they are on the right path and will soon (1 year) have millions of cars driving themselves with no supervision required.
3. I think the “cameras only” approach is the right choice.
4. I think they are the leader in AI and will leverage the FSD tech to Optimus
5. I think Tesla has a bright future
Awesome! Parents just picked up a Y yesterday. Said they tested FSD today and were wowed.
That sounds great. I am loving the model Y. It took me 5 seconds to plug it in when I got home today (no stopping at a gas station). It will charge to full overnight while I sleep. It cost me nothing to charge my car on solar. I drove my EV 2,300 miles last month and the cost was ZERO. Its the best selling car in the world. It cost me $39k and its the fastest car I have ever driven. If you touch the pedal it immediately responds it you floor it you are momentarily projected into the future! :)
@@HomesteadEngineering nice! We're off-grid so they'll charge it during the day for the most part. Seeing if just the mobile charger is enough as they don't daily drive.
@@DavidGetchel In regard to the mobile charger. It can do up to 32 amps of power with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. If you find that a standard 120v outlet can't handle the amount of driving you do on a daily basis, I suggest looking into the NEMA 14-50.
Fantastic video! Great to see an expert in the field experience FSD for the first time!
I often get negative comments being on UA-cam so I can't tell you how nice it is to have great comments like this one. Much appreciated!
@HomesteadEngineering Wow, really? People are such Aholes! All respect to you and your life's work! I really enjoyed your perspective, and I shared it with many Tesla smoking enthusiasts I know. I, too, am an automation engineer. Perhaps that helps me appreciate you more than most? I will keep tuned for more of your videos. Thank you!
You and all the others involved have a right to be proud of what you did to inspire today's FSD. I'll be thinking of your projects while I'm riding in my Model Y. This video is a documentary!
Its really nice when folks leave great comments like this one. Much appreciated. Thanks!
I started watching for the off grid solar build, stayed for the lessons on life and the pursuit of happiness.
Thanks so much. I do have plans to do a a series that is more in that vein in the near future. :)
This video is highly underrated.
This guy has been working in this field for many many years and can actually talk from experience. So any of the naysayers really can’t argue this guy.
-Regarding LiDAR “this is what all the other companies are still trying to do”
-the costs of the GPS, computers, etc that he used back in the 90’s were prohibitively expensive. Cathy Wood and others have stated that moors law means that costs will go down over time, and this is the perfect example. Even compute power he mentioned that our phones have more computing capacity than the 4 computers they used.
He is genuinely shocked by how good it drives and says multiple times that it drives like a human. It is not robotic which shows how much more advanced the software is.
If you are skeptical about robotaxi, this video should change your mind.
Great video I have been following the DARPA challenges for years and I am a great admirer of the achievements of you and all the teams that participated over the years.
I own a Model Y and have been using FSD Beta for several years and the improvements in version 12.x.x is amazing had you tried your trip on 11.x.x you would have experienced a far more robotic drive.
James, I really appreciate your comment. Thanks!
I knew there was more under that hat than you let on, I could tell we were in the presence of a much higher intelligence. Thanks for the trip back.
LOL, I still have a few secretes... :) Thanks!
He'll be insufferable after this...
@@maximusthegreatest I have been stuck in my office ALL day. Can't seam to get through the door for some reason...
That was pretty cool seeing u back then ... Keep it up brother
That was 30 years ago... :) Thanks!
I just got my first Tesla a month ago. First few times using FSD I was super apprehensive. Much more comfortable with it and trust it now. Crazy cause I drove my wife’s internal combustion engine car for a longer trip. I was annoyed I had to drive on the freeway for an hour without any assistance. Tesla makes the drive so much safer. Absolutely incredible.
You’re a bot though. A single comment and it’s this one?
fascinating! great to see your perspective on this!
Thank you!
You would at least double your views if you uploaded this to X (Twitter). Brilliant review of your past engineering projects and thanks for sharing your fresh perspective on FSD 12.3.3
Elon would probably retweet this
That's now a po*N site
Nobody calls that shit X. It’s Twitter.
@@mxdanger why you mad?
Why would you use that platform?
I love this take on fsd, you can see the experience he has with self driving vehicles while he tests it out
Wow! I read about the DARPA challenge when it took place ant I cannot believe that I have seen a video from someone who was involved in it 👏👏👏
And it is great that you have experienced FSD! It was because of you and your colleagues that FSD and other similar systems exist, and we all thank you for that!👏👏😁😁
Excellent video! Thanks for the unique perspective.
Thanks!
Nice and interesting video. Thanks. A couple comments/hints:
1) You can set chill, standard or aggressive for FSD and also chill and standard for driving behavior.
2) Stop sign behavior is mandated by NHTSA to be a full stop at sign with a full 1 second pause. Tesla is working to get that rule revised by NHTSA to be more humanlike since statistically only 0.5% of human drivers make full stops at signs. The proposal is to allow 1 mph "stops".
3) At 1st it's uncomfortable not to be in control but that quickly changes as you realize how good it is. The car becomes the pilot and you the observant copilot. On the whole it's already safer than human drivers in my area.
All true, also adding at 19:20 FSD does not currently recognize school zones.
Seeing the history of self driving was very interesting! I would love to see more videos on FSD and your opinions on where they are at with the path to autonomy.
These 90s Videos are really interresting, must have been a lot of fun developing all this tech with some lads in a Garage.
What a great video, anyone seeing this and then driving in an FSD equipped Tesla would be blown away 🎉
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing your autonomous driving story 🤩
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great to hear your perspective. I think this video should get far more views.
Great perspective and history! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you. I appreciate your comment! :)
new to your channel. great video. loved the trip back to the 90s
It's amazing look back and see how far we come (on both hardware and software)! Great job man, very interesting history
Excellent video. I will do everything in my power to help this go viral. Definitely hope some of the other quality Tesla AutoPilot UA-camrs see and promote this. I value to history lesson. Thank you.
Thank you for your review, a very interesting point of view! I hope to see more :D
I think I will do some more videos on FSD and I have a lot of ways that I charge at home including DIY solar that might be interesting to viewers. Thanks for the nice comment.
Thank you.
Brilliant and fascinating video, you have a new sub!
Great story... I was actually at one of the DARPA Urban Challenge events in Victorville as well... don't know if it was the same one you were at, but those events were always a blast. Loved your Tesla job offer story. It's crazy how far it's all come.
this is amazing
A good share. 👍
I really like this style of video! Shows a lot that you know
Thanks!
Awesome 🌻🪻🌹💐🍧🍨🍦😍🎈
Nice review of the history of autonomous vehicle development preceding the work at Tesla. Nice demo drive. Have been sampling FSD and find it’s tuning a bit hot. By the time operator recognizes a failure, there may be too little margin for recovery.
awesome to hear your perspective especially the history and your experience, FSD has come a long way just be warned (i'm sure you know at this point), V12 still has a lot of trouble with parking lots :P and every now and then it would have a navigational hiccup, but small problems in the grand scheme of things
Giving a rewatch to help with watch time 👊
Thanks!
@@HomesteadEngineering We need an update on the chickens...
I really want to test drive the Cybertruck. Havent seen any over here yet
I remember the DARPA challenge and was trying to relay the progress self driving has made to an Elon hater but was not successful .
Yes, I found that to usually be the case... But I have not given up! :)
Great content! I haven’t read all the comments so somebody’s probably already mentioned these things but you can use the scroll wheel on the right to adjust the speed, if you keep your eye on the visualization you’ll feel a little more comfortable about what the car sees and doesn’t see, and one question… Are you going to buy FSD after trying it?
Please do some really busy downtown driving. I think that's where it's most impressive
Wow, I had no idea. 🚙 💻
Imagine a future where self-driving cars, connected through Wi-Fi, orchestrate a seamless dance on our roads. This isn't just about cutting-edge technology-it's a vision for safer, cleaner, and more efficient mobility. Accidents, road rage, and drunk driving could become rarities, potentially saving countless lives. Beyond safety, this interconnected system could revolutionize urban planning, reduce environmental impacts, and make our cities greener and more livable. The ripple effects on society, from lower insurance costs to reduced emergency room visits, promise a transformation that could far exceed our expectations. As we edge closer to this reality, the potential for a safer and more inclusive transportation future shines brightly.
I've played with FSD and I'm a bit too jittery to really use it except on the highway. The auto-lane change feature is very good.
Yes, I am definitely jittery as well but I have only tried it 3-4 times so far. I think we just have to gain trust in the system. Funny, I do not like the auto lane change feature. Most of the driving I can anticipate what it is about to do but the lane change takes me by surprise and I don't have a chance to check the blind spot and supervise the move. I need a heads up on that prior to the move. Thanks!
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Nice video. Thank you for sharing your experiences. What do you think about visual only way of Tesla? Is it best idea?
An extremely unique perspective indeed, very interesting to hear and see what went into those original prototype vehicles, seriously impressive how much you were able to do with so little computing power, those days just the gauge cluster of a modern car has more compute power than that rack of 1990's computers. Now custom ASICs in the latest Teslas can do tens of trillions of operations per second, crazy. Although do you think computational power was the most major limitation preventing things like a neural network implementation, or do you think the technology was more held back in your sector unlike Tesla's willingness to "...[push] the envelop in terms of safety", for example by putting it in production vehicles and having consumers beta test it and supply data?
But I think the main question to ask is do you think your Tesla will ever be capable or be allowed to operate on public roads with no one inside (SAE level 5) as they advertise it will eventually be capable of? The same question extends to would a Tesla sold in 2014 with the original now decade old FSD HW1 computer and sensors be any different?
Dang it Tim, I have a lot of work to do today and your asking a lot of great, thoughtful questions! LOL. I'm going to have to get back to this one later. Maybe a live stream to talk about these things with feedback. :)
What computer language did you use back in the day? Do you know what computer language Tesla uses in their automobiles?
Very interesting video. Looks like the technology has come a long way. I appreciate your knowledge on this subject and wanting to share it with your viewers.
We went through a lot of different stuff over the years.
That original Mule (Navigation Test Vehicle)
- C and even some Assembly for the low level interfaces
- Developed on Sun Sparcstation, Silicon Graphics (Unix machines) and compiled then embedded on VME on the vehicle. The vehicle ran a realtime unix called VxWorks
- We wrote most of that code using vi and later Emacs
-Later it was modularized and switched to Single Board Computers (component based)
-I think went through a PC104 stack phase and even ran AB CAN bus for some stuff
The Blue Rock Crawler used rack mounted PC's running Windows connected via two networks
C code and developed on Visual Studio 10 and backup under Subversion
The Toyota ran 12 server mounted PC's running Red Hat Linux (Fedora)
All in C and C++
We bought 10 identical laptops (for the team) and set them all up with the exact same development environment.
Note: I remember even back in 1989 we experimented briefly with neural nets and fuzzy logic but nothing used for the cars.
Good question, Thanks!
@@HomesteadEngineering Dang, how many computer languages do you know? I went to college in '81 wanting to become a computer programmer. They taught Basic, Fortran, and Cobalt and touched on Pascal. Heck, that was so long ago we had to do our programming line by line on punch cards. That sucked because there were only about four punch card machines and a few hundred students needing to punch code. Ugh. After that first semester I realized that programming was not in my future.
@@tynyyn5344 Basic, Fortran, Pascal, C C++, Java and Assembly. I started about the same time as you on a Apple2 with Basic. I switched to and IBM compatible XT around 1988. Then a GateWay 386 in 91 and on from there. Fortunately, I skipped over the punch card era. Thanks!
Are you happy withyour Y?
I am going to check it oit today.
Which model did you get? I am sure you will do a video on solar charging it.
Yes! We both love it. I don't actually get to drive it much as my wife always has it. We have had it for almost 1 month and it already has 2,220 miles on it. We have charged it with solar and paid nothing to drive it so far. I will definitely be doing a video on that coming up. Thanks!
That's a result of 2 years of neural Nets training
From video to control
Imagine where we will be 2 years from now!
@@HomesteadEngineering
It's worth saying that Tesla took the cheapest way with no HD maps
But also spent over 20 billion dollars
Tesla totally ripped off your idea of having a giant computer screen in the car from your first self driving vehicle. :)
Been playing with FSD since 2 years ago. I'm sure even with version 11 you wouldn't be impressed with Tesla's implementation. The performance leap by going full AI driven code made a huge difference in v12, and I'm repeating what everyone had already said. :) Though on my last 38 hour road trips there were still a few situations where I had to take over. Very curious if they'll be good enough for Robotaxi in August.
HI great video , TY . were you holding your phone ?
During the test drive I was holding a stabilized GoPro in my right hand the whole trip. Thanks! :)
This vehicle is Level 2-capable no matter how it is equipped and therefore it is, at no time, capable of “driving itself”. The human driver is ALWAYS driving, no matter how it may appear. The fact that people (wrongly) believe that this vehicle is capable of driving itself (or similar) is what makes this system structurally unsafe.
I followed the DARPA grand challenge using my dial up modem. I expected team TerraMax to crush the opposition... I mean literally drive over the other competitors :)
if all cars were tesla fsd the traffic cops would be out of a job.
well except for the random times they screw up
Having seen plenty of FSD videos already, what I really want to know after watching this: Why the heck is your Lowe's red?
I’m sorry what… ELON offered you a job personally???!
I don't know for sure who it was. I think it was right after the 2nd DARPA Grand Challenge around December 2005. The Air Force ask me to bring the NaviGator to the Gaylord Palms Convention Center in Orlando (I think). I kind of remember the car was yellow and there were two guys in the booth about mid 30's. I remember that one of them sounded Scandinavian or something European maybe. I really did not give it a second thought other than thinking the car seamed pretty cool. I might still have the bus cards, I'm going to look through them for a Tesla card and see who it was. It would be pretty funny if it was Elon. lol
So you've never used FSD or even Auto Pilot?
We recently purchased the car and its my wife's car so at the time of this filming, I had only driven a Tesla (of any kind) 3 times. I was not even comfortable with the car driving it myself. Its a lot different than my 2007 Dodge Ram 1500. No key, no gauges, no foot on the break, etc. I was not even sure how to take back control of the car! That said, I did try autopilot (adaptive cruise) on my 2nd drive (loved it). My truck does not have adaptive cruise. I also tried the one where it stays in its lane (also on the 2nd trip). On the 3rd trip I tried the FSD V11 for about 5 minutes and was NOT impressed, although I have to admit that it was still definitely way better than anything I ever built (20 years ago). As of today, I have only driven on FSD V12.3.3 Four times total so still not in a position to really evaluate with authority.
My wife always has the dang car! I got a CyberTruck on order :)
You have to take it into a city. Not those country side roads.
I recently ran it in downtown Dallas and it was a big help as I was having trouble figuring it out. Thanks!
You could have gone to Mars with Elon lol
It not there if you have to take control of it in the parking lot! I guess the FSD experts are correct it about 40-80 years to achieve FSD!😂
Tesla not FSD! ;-( Should be track all roads to improve data base of roads for FSD Systems. NYC Traffic and London too. Traffic and non FSD Cars and people..
If you can’t sit in the back seat it’s not self driving, it’s cruise control!
What happens when you’re doing 70 and a person enters the roadway where there are obstructions on either side? Does the car choose to kill you or the pedestrian ? (I am very seriously asking.)
These are neat experiments for the military, but they have some real very serious ethical implications that the companies pushing them, the media and therefore the general public are seeming to ignore completely.
We definitely should be voting for these things to be regulated in such a way that there is software that guarantees that the driver is always sacrificed rather than damage or hurt people outside the vehicle and that should be a disclaimer given to anyone that wants to buy one!
Until that happens, it should have remained illegal to endanger the public by operating these machines in all states.
Human drivers endanger the public everyday. FSD is supervised so any questionable behaviors can be corrected immediately by the person in the driver's seat.
@@Duder0nSpot on Namby Pambies need to realize that since 1955, on average every year, over 40,000 people die in traffic accidents … That’s just in the USA. People die, FSD will and has saved lives and is programmed to keep humans alive!
@TheGrobe … you need to chill a lot. FSD with a competent driver monitoring the car, is safer than most idiots that are behind the wheel already. Stop babbling hypothetical BS as if it was a daily occurrence, people die in traffic accidents every day since the car was invented. People are horrible drivers and a lot of them drive cars not suitable for anything but a scrap yard crusher geez, relax the ignorance and learn how to 🎉
@@Duder0n Well, of course, there will be scenarios where someone is distracted by a cell phone or simply cannot react fast enough. I don’t want to drive a vehicle that might choose to kill me over some drunk idiot that jumps into traffic. Or a blowup doll, mannequin or other human shaped object it thinks is a person.
Nor do I want a vehicle that would choose to plow through the little girl chasing her ball into the street, when it calculates it will otherwise crash at a potentially fatal speed. I want the option in the moment to choose to sacrifice myself.
It may be way too late by the time you change your focus and put your hands on the wheel. There is no question that scenarios like this will occur, once a large number of these vehicles hit the road.
These were just a couple examples of the many scenarios that have very real ethical implications to not putting people in direct control of a vehicle on public roads
You certainly cannot count on humans correcting the actions of the vehicle after it’s already made decisions, to remedy all of these scenarios.
Tesla has no full self driving. Tesla is not even among the 10 players in this arena. They have a level-2 advance driving system.
Who makes a better FSD than Tesla?
@@GWAForUTBE Tesla doesn't make any FSD. Right now cars drive themselves on the road of many cities, none of them are Tesla.
Mercedes, GM, BMW all have L3 system, far ahead of Tesla. But the fanbois believe any Musk's lies.
@trucksanddirt1506 I've seen videos of customers cars . None compare to Teslas FSD. Your a simple minded hater.
@@GWAForUTBE That's your comparison? Videos? I'm telling that those cars are on the streets. Those cars are certified a level above Tesla and demonstrated by experts. You speak of videos. You know how many of those were faked by Musk himself?
@@GWAForUTBE So you watch video and that makes you an expert? First, right now at least 4 companies in the US and 4 in China have robotaxis on the road. Tesla has none. Those are not videos that everyone can fake. Musk is an expert in faking videos. It's the reality. Second, Mercedes, GM, BMW are certified Level 3 by SAE. Tesla admitted that they are Level 2. These are your videos that people can fix and show you what they want. This is the reality.
Tesla has no FSD and is among the last in terms of autonomous driving technology.
You should ask Elon for a job you have a good resume