What would your MCU X-Men lineup look like?? Edit: this was video I made previously but wasn’t released fully. (Hence the sub goal, and the outdated secret wars info), but I added a bunch to this video today for you all so it’s still worth watching!
Its not a bad idea I agree with some stuff but not with others. I collected comics...all x-titles from 1988 to 2005,still have them all. Plus random marvel/dc/ image stuff. Xmen 97 was great,no complaints and this ties into my first divergence...magneto, now look I don't know what peoples morbid obsession is with this guy, the 90s were so thick with magneto flip flopping, onslaught, Joseph, asteroids and limited series and then fox put this guy who was supposed to be an arch villain and kinda made an overused joke of him,having him in every single movie was so crazy im shocked he wasn't in the wolverine films and yes he was mentioned in Deadpool and wolverine but pretty sure that was a joke. No magneto...if you wanna give him the thanos treatment see him for 5 seconds for a couple movies then the reveal in movie 3 do it but no more "he's just eric,Eric, dude on the team" no he's a trauma damaged human hater who could clearly shut off earth based on 97,which was handled well he was there but I dont think a crazy amount. Beyond mags...I know they said the writer picked likes kitty pryde and gambit most,they are confirmed im sure...I hope she has Lockheed I miss that baby dragon. I think the core 5 should be there,then limited wolverine stuff he is my favorite but its fine at this point, jubilee done properly would be nice, then maybe branch out, young versions of xfactor,xforce,and Excalibur members could be fun or any newer ones from the last 15 years can be shoved in there. As for villain I agree sinister is the prime needed, with maybe his mutates as well. Genosha...I get the idea but I think that can be a news story separate but a backdrop in these movies not the focus,it happens but other things keep the xmen from just going there to do nothing because you can't fix it save genosha ever so a general o agree spooky sinister story him messing with then at the mansion maybe, then a big fight in one of him many labs at the end plus 1 or 2 set ups for future villains either as cut aways or post credits. I have no casting choices so fat feige has done ok casting people ill trust the system for now
I'd just start with the original Xteam. Starting off with Wolverine, I think, will take away from the rest of the team they should be younger and there should be no tie in with xmen97
I'm kinda partial to Jon Bernthal The Punisher although he's only 10yrs younger than Hugh he's definitely got the "Killer Instinct"!! ( was a N64 game title back in the day) I did like Henry but he's a little big for the role
As a black female, I loved seeing Wesley as Blade. His fighting moves were so smooth, clean. Like poetry in motion. Beauty in his movements. Bad ass. Also, Michael Jai White.
😂😂😂😂 as a white man, I LOVED seeing Jennifer Garner as Elektra. Her fighting movers were so smooth and sexy. Like poetry in motion. Bad ass. Also, Scarlett Johansson.
Bro, Zac Efron is 5’8”. You gotta stop this madness. This isn’t accurate AT ALL. We need a physically imposing Cyclops. Same with Storm. She’s feminine but intimidating.
It was the same thing in the original X-men films. They had James on lifted sets and lifts. You didn’t notice it then, you won’t notice it now if done right.
this is very cool but it’s just WAYYY too much too soon. i agree that we don’t have to do a full origin story, but we need SOME kind of jumping on point. not enough of the general public actually know enough about any of the x-men other than wolverine, magneto and professor x. the more time we have to grow with these characters, the better. the way you’ve laid it out here makes it prone to the same exact issues as the dceu.
Disagree. The MCU needs to tell the origin story of the original five X-Men. We never got a decent live action adaptation of Cyclops or Jean Grey because the Fox movies only focused on Charles/Magneto/Wolverine, so to set itself apart and to properly adapt the X-Men, MCU movies shouldn’t just skip decades of development.
Marquand is 43. Your Gambit is 44. You are pairing him with a 31 year old actress. Similarly Matthias is 43, the wrong body and face type. Not entirely a fan.
Sorry. It was cool to see Channing Tatum as Gambit, but Deadpool showed us he doesn't have the slim agile look and doesnt have the natural "rizz" to play a more serious Gambit. All his lines that came outta his mouth became a meme because no one could take him seriously nor himself. The role should be Austin Butler. Also.. Zac Efron is too short and stocky to play Cyclops. Glen Powell from Top Gun Maverick would be a much better choice.
I definitely agree with this sentiment right here. Austin Butler would make and make and awesome Remy Lebeau, and Glen Powell would be an interesting choice for sure.
😬Yeah hes just not a good enough actor - I think it came off corny as hell and forced- I agree with some that Austin Butler would be good or how about hirring and actul Cajun
@@u.sagent5091 That is just cgi with a voiceover actor. I dont mind Colossus being cgi when in his metal form, but in his human form Cavill would be great. Plus, Peter is a sensitive and interesting character that deserves to be shown as more than the X-mens biggest muscles.
In my opinion, the storyline NEEDS to focus on Scott and Jean. We need to be convinced of why they are the leaders of the X-Men. However, I disagree about starting off around the arc that was just started in X-Men '97. We don't need to reintroduce characters completely, but we also don't need to have too much depth and confusion in the storyline starting out. There should be a solid foundation for who each character is before introducing elements like love triangles involving impregnated clones.
As a 52 year old hardcore Marvel comic nerd since I was able to read, I think this is the first time I have 100% agreed with a fantasy cast. You seriously caught me off guard in the beginning with Zac, but now I can't picture anyone else as Scott. I especially love Ross Marquand as Charles. The one thing I absolutely hated about the past X-Men movies is that CHARLES IS NOT BRITISH! He has a highly educated upper class accent, but it's still as American as it gets. Of course I mean absolutely not offence to Patrick Stewart or James McAvoy. Both outstanding actors. I'm actually surprised Fox didn't make Beast British too. Outstanding picks man.
I'm really glad that you enjoyed this! My goal was to surprise people with my picks and hopefully make some people think of some different possibilities! Thank you! Hope that I can continue to surprise you in the future.
I've already been thinking about the idea of "family across the multiverse" ever since they revealed Robert Downey Jr. as Doom. I mean, they'd be crazy not to have Stark's daughter involved as a central character in what's about to go down, right? By the time we get to Magneto and Wanda, we'll already have multiple precedents for that kind of thing. By that point it'll be an established trope. Well, maybe...
Depends on the timeline, Morgan is like 7 years old in the current timeline where we are at right now. I could see her follow her dad's footsteps eventually, but that's very long-term thinking. She's probably not even a teenager yet by the time we are done with the multiverse saga.
No one had an issue with it from X1-X3. James Marsden is shorter than Hugh Jackman. They just had James wear shoes with lifts or when that wasn’t possible have lifted sets. No one seemed to noice when the same technique was used for Thor Love and Thunder with Natalie Portman.
@@CantinaTalkSW Okay, James Marsden is 5'10 and they used certain resources to make him appear taller I'll give you that, but Hugh Jackman isn't 6'3 lol
I absolutely love the X-Men from Marvel so much so, that I have a detailed fan theory as to how the X-Men could join the Marvel Cinematic Universe: keep First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2, New Mutants in the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline as there is a massive gap between 1963-1995 with the Dark Phoenix cast appearing in Deadpool 1&2, these films can happen after the events of Dark Phoenix and since Essex Corps is referenced in New Mutants, this could happen in the Dark Phoenix timeline after these events, Professor X uses Cerebro to convince the world that mutants don't exist and erase any new mutant activities from people's minds whenever one is witnessed. however the only person who knows is Nick Fury, who agrees with Professor X to keep tabs on any new mutant activity. this is also referenced in a deleted scene from Iron Man 1, when Nick mentions X-Men the X-Men can work in secret between 1992 up until Endgame. when Tony Stark snaps his fingers, the mind stone reverses the effects of Professor X's actions. resulting in the public now remembering who the X-Men are as for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, Hydra's meddling with the mind stone prematurely reversed Professor X's actions, as it was mentioned that the mind stone unlocks dormant abilities already present in the brain my theory brings the Dark Phoenix X-Men cast into the MCU, thus eliminating the need to recast the entire X-Men team. the actors are young, they've expressed interest in returning and continuing their roles. it's an option for Marvel Studios to do that I've explained my theory to a lot of people, most of whom say it works. others say it won't work and demand i should forget everything about the Fox X-Men films and be happy with what Disney/Marvel Studios are going to do with the X-Men I will probably receive a lot of negative feedback about my theory, nothing is set in stone, if Marvel Studios can bring back JK Simmons as J Jonah Jameson/the Sony Spider-cast, why won't they bring back the Dark Phoenix cast? there are multiple websites that support my theory, along with the Iron Man 1 deleted post credit scene. not only that, something similar happened in the comics (Robert Reynolds/Sentry and Gabriel Summers/Vulcan) since Days of Future Past rewrote the timeline, X-trilogy/Wolverine trilogy no longer take place as the ending to Dark Phoenix doesn't connect to the original trilogy, leaving it open for possible future sequels. as I mentioned, the Dark Phoenix cast could return and continue James McAvoy - Professor X Michael Fassbender - Magneto Tye Sheridan - Cyclops Nicholas Hoult - Beast Alexandra Shipp - Storm Kodi Smitt-Mcphee - Nightcrawler Sophie Turner - Jean Grey Channing Tatum - Gambit Josh Brolin - Cable Brianna Hildebrand - NTW Stefan Kapicic - Colossus Olivia Munn - Psylocke Peter Dinklage - Bolivar Trask Oscar Isaac - Apocalypse Rose Byrne - Moira McTaggart Anya Taylor-Joy - Magik as I've mentioned, in my X-Men MCU timeline, Mystique dies and Quicksilver dies after Avengers 2. the other X-Men characters I don't mind recasting, as long as they keep the cast I mention above aswell as try to follow my fan theory
He’s already in everything. It would just feel like Elvis all over again. Besides Dune 2. Austin has pretty much played the same role in every movie he’s been in for the past 3 years. Same with Glen Powell.
Personally, I feel like there should be an open call for actors from a cajun background to play Gambit. Even if Tatum did a good job, we need a real bayou beau for that role, chere.
Yeah im glad he got todo it but to me it comes off cheesy as hell- Hes just not a good enough actor - To me its super obvious why his movie was cancelled, it would have been soo corny
I'm not a fan of the massive amounts of fanservice, nor do I want this adhering so close to the comics to the point that the only difference is the medium they're on. I really don't agree with the idea that so many fans have of needing everything to be identical but just in movie form. And we can't just re-do X-Men 97 in live action, nor is it fair to leave so much info on backstory exposition. Exposition KILLS movies, and you can't expect every single viewer to be a massive diehard nerd with the preconceived knowledge necessary to "get it." Unfair to general audiences. Best bet is to use the cast of the previous films via the multiverse. I don't want another reboot.
@@CantinaTalkSW I also think the ages of the characters are a little all over the place so to fix that I would cast A.J Locascio as Gambit and Ralph Fiennes as Xavier. But even then Tatum and Marquand would still be good I think Channing Tatum and Ross Marquand would be really great it’s just maybe not on a team together. But hey it’s not my video. I don’t mean to be over critical.
@CatinaTalkSW - People also wanted Krasinski as Reed Richards and he was replaced too. Seriously though. Do you think we can't do better than a middle-aged, past-his-prime Channing Tatum as Gambit? Austin Butler is right. Freaking. There! And that is just ONE actor who would be a better choice!
I guess we forgot about Namor who is the first mutant to utter the word "mutant". Also it's been hinted that Wanda Maximoff powers didn't solely come from mind stone so she also could be first mutant in MCU
@@frankjones5770 Then why did you say otherwise to begin with? Makes 0 sense "Storm needs to be auntie Angela Bassett. I’m sry. None of them could do her better. Especially after hearing your pick for magneto"
Daniel Radcliffe as Wolverine Mark Strong as Professor X Kiefer Sutherland as Magneto Christina Hendricks as Jean Grey Glen Powell as Cyclops Grace Gealey as Storm Ella Hunt as Rogue Freema Agyeman as Storm (2nd choice) Jason Isaacs as Magneto (2nd choice) Amanda Seyfried as Mystique I have many casting ideas for Marvel and DC characters but I'm not sure if they fit well... also like Cavill but Wolverine doesn't fit him at all (my point of view)...
Yetide Badaki, Keke Palmer, Deborah Ayorinde, these are all also good picks for storm, I would have said Coco Jones but I don't know much about her acting. Amanda Seyfried is a perfect mystique and could also be a perfect rogue along with Elizabeth Gillies.
Hugh Jackman plays the MCU's Wolverine. With a multiverse, the FOX X-Men universe has been part of the MCU this entire time. We just only started seeing it's connected recently.
I'm on board except the Henry Cavil as Wolverine. I'm a Cavil fan-boy, but I want a comic book accurate Wolverine. Short, hairy, pissed off and violent. Honestly, the portrayal of him in Hulk vs Wolverine is probably the closest I've seen to him the way I would direct the character.
I don't think any of the actresses for Storm are right. I think it might aught to be an unknown. She has to be striking, exoticly, beautiful, , statuesc and commanding presence. Like Super model Actress Iman but in her late 20's early 30's.
X-men 97 worked because it was a sequel series. I don’t think a lot of these ideas work when going in with a completely fresh take on the x-men. The castings were a mixed bag. I think re-casting previous guys like Channing and Grammar doesn’t work because they are too old for the roles. However I did like the Jean Grey, Rogue and even the cyclops picks. I think aging characters up is less of an issue so I really like Luke Evans as Magento. Physically he’s a unit, he’s only in his mid-40s but that’s easy to explain via the xmen evolution or Masque route. Taron Egerton has to be the next Logan. Anyone who saw Blackbird knows he has charisma oozing out of his arse. Could play Logan for two more decades and is not that tall at about 5’8 which isn’t comically short enough to look silly but keeps in line with Logan being a short king (I am only 5’9 so this a self-burn).
Mr. Sinister would be an interesting villain, he's not omnipotent,,thus leaving him weak enough to be approached by the Silver Surfer, meaning Galactus is near 🤔🤷♂️#alwaysafan
Your commentary is informed and your delivery is good. As I watched your video I came to realize that I just have no love for X men anymore. It’s like my favorite shirt getting accidentally bleached by a well intentioned girlfriend. Yes I still love the shirt but it disappoints me every time I see it. I shall check out more of your work. 😊
I know exactly what you're saying. The honest true breaking point for me was a cockney mutant Juggernaut and Magneto being and old friend of Charles didn't even know him. Deadpool is the only thing that has started to restore my faith.
@@CantinaTalkSWdude you fancasted Cyclops and Wolverine so perfectly in Zack Efron and Henry Cavill I'm imagining them in scenes together and it's perfect
Wow. That Zac pick is honestly one of the better picks ive heard. My personal best Scott pick is Chris Pine. For some reason everything about him makes me think he could play scott. Especially his performance from wonder woman. Really good
Thank you, I was just messing around one day and tried that and I couldn't unsee it. I'd love Chris Pine as Hal Jordan. Personally, he feels too old for my version of Scott, but if it was an older cast I'd love it! I loved him in Wonder Woman
Although I like the idea of Zac efron playing cyclops, shouldn’t u get a different actor to play him cause u got Henry as wolverine. Idk I feel like if ur gonna get someone like Henry to play wolverine than u need someone around Henry height and build for cyclops. I was personally thinking that if James marsden doesn’t appear in secret wars than marvel should give him another chance. And trust me it’s not gonna confuse anyone as long as the rest of the x-men are all played by different actors. Overal I agree with all ur choices except id do Jensen acles as cyclops But if we went with younger actors than Glen Powell cyclops Taron eggerton wolverine
If they can pull it off and still pass as the character then I think they should play the character.. only change when playing the role is not substantial or believable as the character
No MCU hero is one to one with their comic book counterpart so I always laugh when people say an actor isn’t accurate enough to portray a character like as if marvel time and time again hasn’t established that there are many variants of different characters
The cool thing will be that they can use younger actors and still keep magneto a holocaust survivor the just need to say that the mutants age slower. However i dont want to hear that rogue cant touch anyone bull crud anymore. You friggan have the smartest minds on the planet and in forges case the universe. Mutant collars exist, and they could easily make a room or a ring to shut off one power
And your pick for gambit is perfect and people who bit"h about his accent have never met people who are creole you can't understand them half the time he was bloody perfect
Big problem with your suggestion is that hatred against mutants MUST be already establish at least for several decades. Why? Well, this would give solid foundation to the central Magneto/Proff X conflicts. They dont argue just about theories (and Magneto with his actions basicly create hatred against mutant kind) - instead both of them need solid arguments based on practice . My suggestion is that Jean Grey should be already dead (Phoenix story) but her death must make a strong influence on characters (depression, regret, Logan decide leave X man because we need a good reason to write him out of the first movie, etc) and outside world (Phoenix case give humans and Government ' s around the globe seed a deep fear toward mutant kind. Basicly give them a good reason to hate mutants aside your standart racism). Basicly X man should start from "low point" and under Scott Summers leadership rise to the "former glory threw tough decisions" (here we could get starting from Day M and get to AvsX as climax of the Mutant saga) . Why Jean Grey must be dead - well, you dont want to copy paste X Man 97 story and with JeaN gREY THINGS INEVITABLE would get into another Phoenix story movie. Third movie about Phoenix is a little bit too much . Also there is no need to limit presentation of mutant characters with X man movies - for example: you can presente Magik in Doctor Strange movie. Something like "Doctor Strange and Colossus unite their forces in order to save Colossus younger sister from evil Demon Lord Belasco Ruler of Limbo and stop his plans to invade Earth with demon army". Same go for Logan and Avengers (with Rouge as a vilian), etc. With such approach you can tie different aspects of MCU in one "universe" (instead them being "isolated" from each other) and it would be easier to make a crossovers. . AvsX need a HUGE build up like Infinity War in Infinity Saga like it was in the movies. Tension between two groups must rise together with radicalization of Cyclops and carefully build up threw several stages (up to 20 movies) to the point of boiling up in order to make this rivalry feel deserved
What would your MCU X-Men lineup look like??
Edit: this was video I made previously but wasn’t released fully. (Hence the sub goal, and the outdated secret wars info), but I added a bunch to this video today for you all so it’s still worth watching!
Its not a bad idea I agree with some stuff but not with others. I collected comics...all x-titles from 1988 to 2005,still have them all. Plus random marvel/dc/ image stuff. Xmen 97 was great,no complaints and this ties into my first divergence...magneto, now look I don't know what peoples morbid obsession is with this guy, the 90s were so thick with magneto flip flopping, onslaught, Joseph, asteroids and limited series and then fox put this guy who was supposed to be an arch villain and kinda made an overused joke of him,having him in every single movie was so crazy im shocked he wasn't in the wolverine films and yes he was mentioned in Deadpool and wolverine but pretty sure that was a joke. No magneto...if you wanna give him the thanos treatment see him for 5 seconds for a couple movies then the reveal in movie 3 do it but no more "he's just eric,Eric, dude on the team" no he's a trauma damaged human hater who could clearly shut off earth based on 97,which was handled well he was there but I dont think a crazy amount. Beyond mags...I know they said the writer picked likes kitty pryde and gambit most,they are confirmed im sure...I hope she has Lockheed I miss that baby dragon. I think the core 5 should be there,then limited wolverine stuff he is my favorite but its fine at this point, jubilee done properly would be nice, then maybe branch out, young versions of xfactor,xforce,and Excalibur members could be fun or any newer ones from the last 15 years can be shoved in there. As for villain I agree sinister is the prime needed, with maybe his mutates as well. Genosha...I get the idea but I think that can be a news story separate but a backdrop in these movies not the focus,it happens but other things keep the xmen from just going there to do nothing because you can't fix it save genosha ever so a general o agree spooky sinister story him messing with then at the mansion maybe, then a big fight in one of him many labs at the end plus 1 or 2 set ups for future villains either as cut aways or post credits. I have no casting choices so fat feige has done ok casting people ill trust the system for now
Right on happy to find ur channel seems to be exactly what I'm looking for 🎉🎉🎉❤
T'Nia Miller could be q great storm
I'd just start with the original Xteam. Starting off with Wolverine, I think, will take away from the rest of the team they should be younger and there should be no tie in with xmen97
I'm kinda partial to Jon Bernthal The Punisher although he's only 10yrs younger than Hugh he's definitely got the "Killer Instinct"!! ( was a N64 game title back in the day) I did like Henry but he's a little big for the role
Hugh Jackman will be playing wolverine till he's 90
Till he's fucking 90
I hope so
😂
Yeah and hope they drop a calverine and a redcliffe version in the mix
That’s kind of the joke though😂
Someone else can play Wolverine, they’re just not famous enough yet.
Fair enough
henry caville looking pretty sick
Daniel Radcliffe has always been one I loved
@@Nico-lp6pnhe looked so badass
Daniel Radcliffe
As a black female, I loved seeing Wesley as Blade. His fighting moves were so smooth, clean. Like poetry in motion. Beauty in his movements. Bad ass. Also, Michael Jai White.
Too short.
Ysss amazing how they brought him out
😂😂😂😂 as a white man, I LOVED seeing Jennifer Garner as Elektra. Her fighting movers were so smooth and sexy. Like poetry in motion. Bad ass. Also, Scarlett Johansson.
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Bro, Zac Efron is 5’8”. You gotta stop this madness. This isn’t accurate AT ALL. We need a physically imposing Cyclops. Same with Storm. She’s feminine but intimidating.
It was the same thing in the original X-men films. They had James on lifted sets and lifts. You didn’t notice it then, you won’t notice it now if done right.
this is very cool but it’s just WAYYY too much too soon. i agree that we don’t have to do a full origin story, but we need SOME kind of jumping on point. not enough of the general public actually know enough about any of the x-men other than wolverine, magneto and professor x. the more time we have to grow with these characters, the better. the way you’ve laid it out here makes it prone to the same exact issues as the dceu.
Disagree. The MCU needs to tell the origin story of the original five X-Men. We never got a decent live action adaptation of Cyclops or Jean Grey because the Fox movies only focused on Charles/Magneto/Wolverine, so to set itself apart and to properly adapt the X-Men, MCU movies shouldn’t just skip decades of development.
Marquand is 43. Your Gambit is 44. You are pairing him with a 31 year old actress. Similarly Matthias is 43, the wrong body and face type. Not entirely a fan.
Isn't it funny how the people who want a middle-aged Channing Tatum to play Gambit almost universally don't want an older Rogue?
@@ghostchick5275 I'd want an older Rouge for Channing and they could easily age Elizabeth Gillies up
Thats perfectly fine. Thats why its my own personal pick. Everyone is going to have different ones
@@ghostchick5275 I always saw the Channing Tatum fancast as a joke, hence why it worked in Deadpool & Wolverine.
Tatum is NOT gambit
My bad
@@CantinaTalkSW I mean he played gambit but he's not gambit
He was a great Gambit but NOT OUR MCU Gambit to be clear
@@30__ great he was not. He didn't even look like gambit. My first and last thought..."dude is too fat"
Sorry. It was cool to see Channing Tatum as Gambit, but Deadpool showed us he doesn't have the slim agile look and doesnt have the natural "rizz" to play a more serious Gambit. All his lines that came outta his mouth became a meme because no one could take him seriously nor himself. The role should be Austin Butler. Also.. Zac Efron is too short and stocky to play Cyclops. Glen Powell from Top Gun Maverick would be a much better choice.
I was thinking the same thing Zac Efron is 5’8 however in the comics Cyclops’s character is said too be around 6’0 - 6’2.
You are so right, we should cancel the upcoming gambit movie and find some one else. Probably another 15 years of cancelations
I definitely agree with this sentiment right here. Austin Butler would make and make and awesome Remy Lebeau, and Glen Powell would be an interesting choice for sure.
😬Yeah hes just not a good enough actor - I think it came off corny as hell and forced- I agree with some that Austin Butler would be good or how about hirring and actul Cajun
@animecat7629 - Dude. There literally is no Gambit movie.
Its GENosha, not GEOnosha.
Also, Id rather see Cavill as Colossus than Wolverine.
In the state I live in, there is a city spelt the exact same way, and that’s how I’ve pronounced it since I was a child.
@@CantinaTalkSW Okay, well that explains it. But it is Genosha, without an O after the E.
There already is a actor for colossus they’re most likely gonna use the same guy from deadpool
@@u.sagent5091 That is just cgi with a voiceover actor. I dont mind Colossus being cgi when in his metal form, but in his human form Cavill would be great.
Plus, Peter is a sensitive and interesting character that deserves to be shown as more than the X-mens biggest muscles.
For me the only choice for Colossus is Alan Ritchson. They wouldn't even need to use cgi, just paint him silver. Lol
In my opinion, the storyline NEEDS to focus on Scott and Jean. We need to be convinced of why they are the leaders of the X-Men.
However, I disagree about starting off around the arc that was just started in X-Men '97. We don't need to reintroduce characters completely, but we also don't need to have too much depth and confusion in the storyline starting out. There should be a solid foundation for who each character is before introducing elements like love triangles involving impregnated clones.
For me I think Taron Edgarton is way better choice than Henry Cavill for Wolvie
He's my backup choice!
@@CantinaTalkSW Taron is the comic book accurate wolverine
I wish quicksilver had a role at least speedsters are so OP
I’d like to see him as well!
Hugh wasn't famous when he first became Wolverine. Plenty of people could play the role. People are just stuck on familiarity
As a 52 year old hardcore Marvel comic nerd since I was able to read, I think this is the first time I have 100% agreed with a fantasy cast. You seriously caught me off guard in the beginning with Zac, but now I can't picture anyone else as Scott. I especially love Ross Marquand as Charles. The one thing I absolutely hated about the past X-Men movies is that CHARLES IS NOT BRITISH! He has a highly educated upper class accent, but it's still as American as it gets. Of course I mean absolutely not offence to Patrick Stewart or James McAvoy. Both outstanding actors. I'm actually surprised Fox didn't make Beast British too. Outstanding picks man.
Damn if you have kids I can imagine how cool it is they like it too and maybe their kids
I'm really glad that you enjoyed this! My goal was to surprise people with my picks and hopefully make some people think of some different possibilities! Thank you! Hope that I can continue to surprise you in the future.
@@CantinaTalkSW I look forward to it.
@@Eris_Strife same!
I've already been thinking about the idea of "family across the multiverse" ever since they revealed Robert Downey Jr. as Doom. I mean, they'd be crazy not to have Stark's daughter involved as a central character in what's about to go down, right? By the time we get to Magneto and Wanda, we'll already have multiple precedents for that kind of thing. By that point it'll be an established trope. Well, maybe...
I would honestly be so for that! Im hoping so as well
Depends on the timeline, Morgan is like 7 years old in the current timeline where we are at right now.
I could see her follow her dad's footsteps eventually, but that's very long-term thinking. She's probably not even a teenager yet by the time we are done with the multiverse saga.
The height switch for wolverine and cyclops
So you like’d X-men 97 I understand, but marvel is not going to repeat the same storyline brother.
Henry Cavill shouldn't play Wolverine, they should get someone noticeably shorter than Cyclops
No one had an issue with it from X1-X3. James Marsden is shorter than Hugh Jackman. They just had James wear shoes with lifts or when that wasn’t possible have lifted sets. No one seemed to noice when the same technique was used for Thor Love and Thunder with Natalie Portman.
Zac Efron is tooooo short
Understandable, but so was James Marsden and he had to stand on a lifted set piece for all of his scenes with Hugh Jackman to look taller
@@CantinaTalkSWJames Marsden is about 6 feet. He's not short
@@lorenzonapturna58 he’s 5’10 and hugh is 6’3. He’s average male height but like I had said. They had to make him appear taller
@@CantinaTalkSW Okay, James Marsden is 5'10 and they used certain resources to make him appear taller I'll give you that, but Hugh Jackman isn't 6'3 lol
I absolutely love the X-Men from Marvel
so much so, that I have a detailed fan theory as to how the X-Men could join the Marvel Cinematic Universe:
keep First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2, New Mutants in the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline as there is a massive gap between 1963-1995
with the Dark Phoenix cast appearing in Deadpool 1&2, these films can happen after the events of Dark Phoenix and since Essex Corps is referenced in New Mutants, this could happen in the Dark Phoenix timeline
after these events, Professor X uses Cerebro to convince the world that mutants don't exist and erase any new mutant activities from people's minds whenever one is witnessed. however the only person who knows is Nick Fury, who agrees with Professor X to keep tabs on any new mutant activity. this is also referenced in a deleted scene from Iron Man 1, when Nick mentions X-Men
the X-Men can work in secret between 1992 up until Endgame. when Tony Stark snaps his fingers, the mind stone reverses the effects of Professor X's actions. resulting in the public now remembering who the X-Men are
as for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, Hydra's meddling with the mind stone prematurely reversed Professor X's actions, as it was mentioned that the mind stone unlocks dormant abilities already present in the brain
my theory brings the Dark Phoenix X-Men cast into the MCU, thus eliminating the need to recast the entire X-Men team. the actors are young, they've expressed interest in returning and continuing their roles. it's an option for Marvel Studios to do that
I've explained my theory to a lot of people, most of whom say it works. others say it won't work and demand i should forget everything about the Fox X-Men films and be happy with what Disney/Marvel Studios are going to do with the X-Men
I will probably receive a lot of negative feedback about my theory, nothing is set in stone, if Marvel Studios can bring back JK Simmons as J Jonah Jameson/the Sony Spider-cast, why won't they bring back the Dark Phoenix cast?
there are multiple websites that support my theory, along with the Iron Man 1 deleted post credit scene. not only that, something similar happened in the comics (Robert Reynolds/Sentry and Gabriel Summers/Vulcan)
since Days of Future Past rewrote the timeline, X-trilogy/Wolverine trilogy no longer take place as the ending to Dark Phoenix doesn't connect to the original trilogy, leaving it open for possible future sequels. as I mentioned, the Dark Phoenix cast could return and continue
James McAvoy - Professor X
Michael Fassbender - Magneto
Tye Sheridan - Cyclops
Nicholas Hoult - Beast
Alexandra Shipp - Storm
Kodi Smitt-Mcphee - Nightcrawler
Sophie Turner - Jean Grey
Channing Tatum - Gambit
Josh Brolin - Cable
Brianna Hildebrand - NTW
Stefan Kapicic - Colossus
Olivia Munn - Psylocke
Peter Dinklage - Bolivar Trask
Oscar Isaac - Apocalypse
Rose Byrne - Moira McTaggart
Anya Taylor-Joy - Magik
as I've mentioned, in my X-Men MCU timeline, Mystique dies and Quicksilver dies after Avengers 2. the other X-Men characters I don't mind recasting, as long as they keep the cast I mention above aswell as try to follow my fan theory
Thats great list! I really loved Anya Taylor-Joy as Magik! I also really like the Storm pick.
Channing Tatum is not Gambit. Austin Butler would do the character justice
He’s already in everything. It would just feel like Elvis all over again. Besides Dune 2. Austin has pretty much played the same role in every movie he’s been in for the past 3 years. Same with Glen Powell.
i think it'd e funny(and criminally underrated) if andrew lincoln be magneto
That would be insane to see. I’d love it
Jason Isaacs as Magneto 10/10
Thank you, that’s the one on this list where I am firm and cannot see anyone in that spot but him
Personally, I feel like there should be an open call for actors from a cajun background to play Gambit. Even if Tatum did a good job, we need a real bayou beau for that role, chere.
Yeah im glad he got todo it but to me it comes off cheesy as hell- Hes just not a good enough actor - To me its super obvious why his movie was cancelled, it would have been soo corny
If there ever is a DeadPool 4
I need to see him team up with Spider-Man
Not just any Spiderman, IT HAS TO BE ANDREW GARFIELD'S SPIDERMAN
@@andiniwirawanI wonder why
Give me Efron as Cyclops all day! Great choice for the others as well, I can definitely see it.
Let’s gooo
No, I can't see Zac Efron as anyone else but Zac Efron
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I agree, I don't think he would make a good Cyclops, also he would need to be taller
He’s to short
@@B00B13S_L0L understandable lol
Zach Effort is an excellent pull!!!
Thank you!
Austin Butler as Gambit
Yesssss!!!!! Finally!!!! A person of taste!!! Austin Butler or Cesar Domboy. Those are the only choices if we’re going younger.
Channing Tatum
@@jesusvideogamemaster Channing Tatum was awesome but if they are to recast Gambit, Austin Butler would be a solid choice.
How about Austin butler as arch angel
Zendaya as Jubilee?
Iceman should be part of the main cast
If he fits into the story I’m all for it
I'm not a fan of the massive amounts of fanservice, nor do I want this adhering so close to the comics to the point that the only difference is the medium they're on. I really don't agree with the idea that so many fans have of needing everything to be identical but just in movie form.
And we can't just re-do X-Men 97 in live action, nor is it fair to leave so much info on backstory exposition. Exposition KILLS movies, and you can't expect every single viewer to be a massive diehard nerd with the preconceived knowledge necessary to "get it." Unfair to general audiences.
Best bet is to use the cast of the previous films via the multiverse. I don't want another reboot.
We need you back, man. You are the OG in this comic shit and damn it, if Tom Cruise can do it at his age,so can you.
I wanna see onslaught adapted to the movies and phoenix force being split into the characters from the comics.
I’d love to see that
Daniel Radcliffe Wolverine
Glen Powell Cyclops
Daisy Edgar-Jones Jean Grey
I hope will Hugh will reprise his role until he’s 90
Same, as long as he wants
9:22 I like that Pick! She's a mom in death stranding!
Thank you! That she is! Super deep cut not a lot of people know about!
No, we need to see Rogue take her powers from Captain Marvel. And no, Patrick Stewart is Professor X.
I’d want her powers to come from Carol
I can see Jason Isaacs as Magneto. After thinking about it , Ralph Fiennes could play as Professor X.
That he could!
I don’t like Zac Efron as Cyclops but I’m not opposed to any of the other castings.
Understandable!
@@CantinaTalkSW I also think the ages of the characters are a little all over the place so to fix that I would cast A.J Locascio as Gambit and Ralph Fiennes as Xavier. But even then Tatum and Marquand would still be good I think Channing Tatum and Ross Marquand would be really great it’s just maybe not on a team together. But hey it’s not my video. I don’t mean to be over critical.
I doubt they'll ever use cavill and Tatum again
I highly doubt that. The fan reaction was so huge to them they will return
@@CantinaTalkSW there's no need..
Huh?!
@jesusvideogamemaster well I want more Tatum BUT NOT cavill.
@CatinaTalkSW - People also wanted Krasinski as Reed Richards and he was replaced too. Seriously though. Do you think we can't do better than a middle-aged, past-his-prime Channing Tatum as Gambit? Austin Butler is right. Freaking. There! And that is just ONE actor who would be a better choice!
7:32 you hell bro🤣🤣
😂
I guess we forgot about Namor who is the first mutant to utter the word "mutant". Also it's been hinted that Wanda Maximoff powers didn't solely come from mind stone so she also could be first mutant in MCU
Storm needs to be auntie Angela Bassett. I’m sry. None of them could do her better. Especially after hearing your pick for magneto
If she’d want to I’d be down
@@CantinaTalkSW I don’t think she would. She’s already tchala’s mom. She can’t be his boo too lol
@@frankjones5770 Then why did you say otherwise to begin with? Makes 0 sense
"Storm needs to be auntie Angela Bassett. I’m sry. None of them could do her better. Especially after hearing your pick for magneto"
Daniel Radcliffe as Wolverine
Mark Strong as Professor X
Kiefer Sutherland as Magneto
Christina Hendricks as Jean Grey
Glen Powell as Cyclops
Grace Gealey as Storm
Ella Hunt as Rogue
Freema Agyeman as Storm (2nd choice)
Jason Isaacs as Magneto (2nd choice)
Amanda Seyfried as Mystique
I have many casting ideas for Marvel and DC characters but I'm not sure if they fit well... also like Cavill but Wolverine doesn't fit him at all (my point of view)...
Dear lord that's a thicc Jean... I'm into it.
*Brenton* *Thwaites* as Cyclops (2nd choice)?
@@whattheworldneedsiscreativ6421 Good point mate
Yetide Badaki, Keke Palmer, Deborah Ayorinde, these are all also good picks for storm, I would have said Coco Jones but I don't know much about her acting.
Amanda Seyfried is a perfect mystique and could also be a perfect rogue along with Elizabeth Gillies.
Zac Efron as cyclops is fucking peak
The main villain should be mastermind
That would be cool to see!
I think Zack could be a good Bruce banner.
That would be really cool to see. Definitely would be an interesting one though
I think Denzil Washinton would make for a great Charles Exavier though. even though he's older.
Method man: Bishop
So perfect
Hugh Jackman plays the MCU's Wolverine. With a multiverse, the FOX X-Men universe has been part of the MCU this entire time.
We just only started seeing it's connected recently.
That is a really interesting take. I like it!
I need to see James McAvoy play Xavier until he’s 90
I'm on board except the Henry Cavil as Wolverine. I'm a Cavil fan-boy, but I want a comic book accurate Wolverine. Short, hairy, pissed off and violent. Honestly, the portrayal of him in Hulk vs Wolverine is probably the closest I've seen to him the way I would direct the character.
My backup pick is Taron Edgerton who I really love for Wolverine as well
Pretty tough but I can get behind this. So many people can play so many different hero’s
So, who did Rogue absorb the powers of flight and super strength from, if it's not Carol Danvers?
Could be another mutant. Still hoping from Carol
Mini max is back as blade ❤
Actually, Zac Elton could work.
It could
I don't think any of the actresses for Storm are right. I think it might aught to be an unknown. She has to be striking, exoticly, beautiful, , statuesc and commanding presence. Like Super model Actress Iman but in her late 20's early 30's.
Totally understandable
X-men 97 worked because it was a sequel series. I don’t think a lot of these ideas work when going in with a completely fresh take on the x-men.
The castings were a mixed bag. I think re-casting previous guys like Channing and Grammar doesn’t work because they are too old for the roles. However I did like the Jean Grey, Rogue and even the cyclops picks.
I think aging characters up is less of an issue so I really like Luke Evans as Magento. Physically he’s a unit, he’s only in his mid-40s but that’s easy to explain via the xmen evolution or Masque route.
Taron Egerton has to be the next Logan. Anyone who saw Blackbird knows he has charisma oozing out of his arse. Could play Logan for two more decades and is not that tall at about 5’8 which isn’t comically short enough to look silly but keeps in line with Logan being a short king (I am only 5’9 so this a self-burn).
Mr. Sinister would be an interesting villain, he's not omnipotent,,thus leaving him weak enough to be approached by the Silver Surfer, meaning Galactus is near 🤔🤷♂️#alwaysafan
Your commentary is informed and your delivery is good. As I watched your video I came to realize that I just have no love for X men anymore. It’s like my favorite shirt getting accidentally bleached by a well intentioned girlfriend. Yes I still love the shirt but it disappoints me every time I see it. I shall check out more of your work. 😊
I know exactly what you're saying. The honest true breaking point for me was a cockney mutant Juggernaut and Magneto being and old friend of Charles didn't even know him. Deadpool is the only thing that has started to restore my faith.
Thank you, I hope one day that you might love it again. If not though, I wish you the best of luck. Thanks again!
Zac Efron & Henry Cavill together? That’s a recipe for a masterpiece.
That it is!
@@CantinaTalkSWdude you fancasted Cyclops and Wolverine so perfectly in Zack Efron and Henry Cavill I'm imagining them in scenes together and it's perfect
@@batofkrypton9765thank you!
Okay but hear me out. Daniel Radcliffe as wolverine
No Gambit is too old. Need younger actor.
Why?
understandable
@@jesusvideogamemaster idk
Henry cavill is NOT gritty enough.
Honestly? Pretty solid fan casting.
“The main team needs to be in their 30s” way to miss the biggest draw of the xmen?
Uhh, what's the biggest draw again?
@@WesleyWyndam-Prycethey live in a school
Bro got gaslight to the max 💀💀 he doesn’t even know it
I think a smaller statured wolverine would a good thing as well.
Wow. That Zac pick is honestly one of the better picks ive heard. My personal best Scott pick is Chris Pine. For some reason everything about him makes me think he could play scott. Especially his performance from wonder woman. Really good
Thank you, I was just messing around one day and tried that and I couldn't unsee it. I'd love Chris Pine as Hal Jordan. Personally, he feels too old for my version of Scott, but if it was an older cast I'd love it! I loved him in Wonder Woman
cast patrick schwarzenegger as cyclops
That could work
Dude, it's Genosha, not Geonosha!!!! Pronounced Gen Osha.
Dude I’ve already addressed this in another comment
I think that Dacre Montgomery as cyclops could also work wonders
I see him as Human Torch but it’s too late
Personally, Johnny Storm but I could see it too. Hes just a little young imo. Maybe more like iceman
@@jonathanhaynes7904yep
Bro has the most badass intro
Thank you
i think the casting idea is great!
You had me at "Kelsey Grammer will be Beast."
No one will ever match the gravitas and vocal candor that he brings to that character.
Thats why im saying. Idk people are hating on me for saying that
Agree with every other thing except Janelle, you likely won't recognize Storm anymore, replace her with Yetide Badaki or Deborah Ayorinde.
Thank you! Thats why I didnt have her as my main pick and I had DeWanda Wise. I really like Yetide Badaki!
If you want a more in-depth and can do action Jean Grey, you have Saoirse Ronan
Jade Cargill as Storn
Although I like the idea of Zac efron playing cyclops, shouldn’t u get a different actor to play him cause u got Henry as wolverine. Idk I feel like if ur gonna get someone like Henry to play wolverine than u need someone around Henry height and build for cyclops. I was personally thinking that if James marsden doesn’t appear in secret wars than marvel should give him another chance. And trust me it’s not gonna confuse anyone as long as the rest of the x-men are all played by different actors. Overal I agree with all ur choices except id do Jensen acles as cyclops
But if we went with younger actors than
Glen Powell cyclops
Taron eggerton wolverine
Xmen 97 had me sobbing when genosha fell andid love tosee that properly adapted and have a magneto you canget behind
Thank you for the warning! ⚠️ I was literally going to watch this but haven’t seen the movie yet and been dying to watch it lol 😂
No worries! That’s what I’m here for. (Don’t check the marvel UA-cam channel, they have released all of the spoilers already)
what animated movie or series is playing in the background? I'd like to watch it
X-Men'97 on Disney+
Is it ever actually going to happen? I feel like, Live Action MCU X-Men is never going to happen, or it will happen, but 20 years from now.
I still wanna see shia laboufs iceman and taylor swifts dazzler
I would make Sidney Sweeny as Jean.
Saw people talking about that on X the other day too. Personally, Black Cat is better for her
This cast it’s great but they took a long time to film and release these movies I think a younger cast it’s a smarter choice
If they can pull it off and still pass as the character then I think they should play the character.. only change when playing the role is not substantial or believable as the character
understandable
Mathias is a German am i too good Pick for him
Agreed
Nope 😂 will start a lot earlier in the X-man timeline, need to look more at the eighties, maybe early nineties
Professor X- Ewan McGregor
Magneto- Daniel Craig
Cyclops- Patrick Schwarzenegger
Havok- Harris Dickinson
Jean Grey- Jodie Comer
Storm- Jodie Turner-Smith
Beast- Josh O’Connor
Angel- Paul Mescal
Iceman- Tanner Buchanan
Nightcrawler- Owen Teague
Gambit- Dacre Montgomery
Rogue- Peyton List
Kitty Pryde- Cailee Spaeny
So no Colossus or Nightcrawler nah
@@bobbycoltrane7552 did you watch the full video? I literally mentioned nightcrawler 😂
Great pics, except prof X. Don’t care for Ross. Very over rated imo
Understandable!
No MCU hero is one to one with their comic book counterpart so I always laugh when people say an actor isn’t accurate enough to portray a character like as if marvel time and time again hasn’t established that there are many variants of different characters
1st choice Storm is an amazing pick. Yes.
Daniel rad has to be wolverine
The cool thing will be that they can use younger actors and still keep magneto a holocaust survivor the just need to say that the mutants age slower. However i dont want to hear that rogue cant touch anyone bull crud anymore. You friggan have the smartest minds on the planet and in forges case the universe. Mutant collars exist, and they could easily make a room or a ring to shut off one power
And your pick for gambit is perfect and people who bit"h about his accent have never met people who are creole you can't understand them half the time he was bloody perfect
Pushin back the 100k goal?
Michael Shannon as Mister Sinister is perfect casting imo! Watching Man of Steel, him wearing the black cloak and his mannerisms is perfect casting
@@loslakers530 oh my god… that would be fucking perfect
Harry Potter is the best accurate wolverine.
Big problem with your suggestion is that hatred against mutants MUST be already establish at least for several decades. Why? Well, this would give solid foundation to the central Magneto/Proff X conflicts. They dont argue just about theories (and Magneto with his actions basicly create hatred against mutant kind) - instead both of them need solid arguments based on practice
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My suggestion is that Jean Grey should be already dead (Phoenix story) but her death must make a strong influence on characters (depression, regret, Logan decide leave X man because we need a good reason to write him out of the first movie, etc) and outside world (Phoenix case give humans and Government ' s around the globe seed a deep fear toward mutant kind. Basicly give them a good reason to hate mutants aside your standart racism). Basicly X man should start from "low point" and under Scott Summers leadership rise to the "former glory threw tough decisions" (here we could get starting from Day M and get to AvsX as climax of the Mutant saga)
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Why Jean Grey must be dead - well, you dont want to copy paste X Man 97 story and with JeaN gREY THINGS INEVITABLE would get into another Phoenix story movie. Third movie about Phoenix is a little bit too much
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Also there is no need to limit presentation of mutant characters with X man movies - for example: you can presente Magik in Doctor Strange movie. Something like "Doctor Strange and Colossus unite their forces in order to save Colossus younger sister from evil Demon Lord Belasco Ruler of Limbo and stop his plans to invade Earth with demon army". Same go for Logan and Avengers (with Rouge as a vilian), etc. With such approach you can tie different aspects of MCU in one "universe" (instead them being "isolated" from each other) and it would be easier to make a crossovers.
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AvsX need a HUGE build up like Infinity War in Infinity Saga like it was in the movies. Tension between two groups must rise together with radicalization of Cyclops and carefully build up threw several stages (up to 20 movies) to the point of boiling up in order to make this rivalry feel deserved