Destiny Debates A Far Right Student On Trans Issues And Diversity | CHANGE MY MIND
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- DEBATE: Destiny hosts a Change My Mind event at a university and invites students to debate hosted by Aggie Dems (A&M club)...
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:35 Student 1
19:05 Student 2
33:08 Student 3
#destiny
#changeyourmind
"I'm a big fan of black people music... black people have earned their place in American I think" - has to be the hardest I've ever laughed during a Destiny debate
Why is it so funny? Genuinely wondering, black people did in fact play a huge role into the creation of music styles like blues and jazz, especially blues during times of slavery.
@@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind “earned their place”
@@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind because he went from "cultures different from classical western one produce content we shouldn't study as it is irrelevant and inferior" to the black people doing good music. As if they didn't being their culture and art mixing it with local western existing one to produce "black music"
@@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind He's implying that it's possible for a race of people to not earn their place as Americans. Afterall, if some races have earned their place that implies that others haven't; which is racist.
@@garrettbradford4791It's genuinely awe-inspiring to me how many dog whistles and outwardly fascistic statements that guy managed to cram in every sentence, but what's even more impressive was Destiny not taking any of those baits
Destiny is brave for doing these debates. Especially on gender identity. What sets him apart from other debaters is that he can actually identify as a woman since destiny is a girl’s name.
Brave for stealing the most popular political bit in a decade?
You almost had me there
is there a reason why it's mentioned under every video that destiny is a girl's name? I know JLP said it. is it just a meme, or does it mean something more? Either way, I usually find them hilarious.
i came to the comments just to find the destiny is a girls name comment. glad i didn’t have to long long 😂
@@patrickd5274 brave? This shit is fun to Hi
First dude is absolutely in love with himself.
lol yes! I was just thinking that, and what massive fratboy he really is. He literally just entered political consciousness a week prior to this video, and is confident that he is a genius.
I can hear the trust fund through their voice.
@@Bangy I bet he’s the edgiest dude at the polo meet.
First person is making quite great observations, and Destiny is the one being slimy here, disregarding the money aspect of the surgeons that butcher kids, on the hundred of thousands of dollars of medical costs, which will continue to be gathered after the unsuccessful sex change operation, because you can't change sex, with all the hormonal treatment, that if you don't know, artificially dysregulates healthy human development and so you can expect additional costs to come about, with the money aspect of ~"not wanting kids to be trans". Disingenuous, unhealthy, and speaking over the first person does little to no favor on deeply addressing issues that see Destiny wrong.
That’s like the psychological foundation of racial nationalism
"So youre just going to ignore the suicide statistics?" *gives him the suicide statistics * "well how do you even measure that" lmao what a donkey
ehh, clearly more of an elephant (pun intended)
lol you guys aren’t the brightest bulbs huh? He was saying how do you measure if they live in a “supportive” community because that’s a stupid thing to say and impossible to measure. Lol you’re welcome.
The methodology is important. If you know a stat, and you don't know the methodology, you don't the stat.
Take for example the definition of vaccinated taken by the WHO during the 2020 pandemic: ~"A person which has had two weeks after taking a vaccine", in where the logic was that only after the immune response of the intervention had time to mature would then could one rightfully say he was part of the immunity through vaccine population. Whatever the can of worms that entails, notice that just because you think you know what a stat says something, you probably do not know.
Now, what might be important in getting the accurate measure of statistics of suicide?
@Wiki2024-ps3gx, I can accept he should have had the knowledge before relying on it to form his opinion. Still, I must assume this was simply an extra to either support or go against his scheme of knowledge. Thus, asking for details seems appropriate after it seems to be going in the against direction. Now, after all is said and done, I think we might benefit to know what the stats are how they are measured.
nothing worse than a groyper clearly emulating fuentes mannerisms, i've never seen a group of people more in need of a father figure
I don't disagree, but don't emulate the leftist stereotype.
The people killing eachother in Chicago, NYC and Philly could probably use a father figure more.
to be fair most of the destiny fans I've ever heard speak on stream emulate destiny's mannerisms too
Came here to say that. They all have the same speech pattern…they do this thing where they make some kind of passive-aggressive statement or whatever through a phony “gotcha” smile. Fucking hate it.
@@kemori_ yeah, I don’t think people do it on purpose
That last conversation was awesome. Lots of push back, clear points being made, came to the conversation in good faith. Epic.
Thanks! That was actually me, glad you enjoyed our conversation!
@@PatrickEnglehart yeah actually a rlly good convo dude, watch the wire tho fr
@@PatrickEnglehart I totally agree. Usually in these conversations, I tend to agree with Destiny 90%+ of the time, because the people he talks to seem less prepared, and some just have crazy views, or a narrow mind on the matter. But with your conversation I could understand both sides, and a lot of the time wasn't sure who I sided with, which gave some room for thought afterwards, which I think is also part of the point of these conversations. Really great conversation! ^_^
@@PatrickEnglehart great job on college debt relief.
@@PatrickEnglehart Loved it man, great work. Hope he has you back on for a livestream.
“I don’t like a lot of other cultures.”
Clearly. 💀
Loved the part when the dude said “oh I love black people music” and destiny said “yeah, I’m sure you do” lmfao
so?
@@arthurcheater3359 delete your account girlfriend
cultures aren't people, you can say you like a muslim but not like their culture even if they aren't currently operating within it. different people can live amongst each other but it's not clear that different cultures can successfully.
American Culture....
Every time I hear the first student talk, a year is taken from my life. No matter how hard you try, these kind of people will never change their mind. It doesn’t matter how much evidence or effort you put into your arguments, these people already made up their minds. It’s painfully obvious how easy and privileged this kids life is and how he’s never really questioned his viewpoint or considered that he might be incorrect or ignorant when he most certainly is.
I hope she sees this, bro.
@@Dpad69 *he
Your actually extremely ignorant on the medical system in America/worldwide. The problem is your probably the same type of person to say "I'm not a scientist" when someone asks for your opinion and goes deep into it. Iv personally seen several times in which studys will intentionally change definitions to very specific things in a very misleading way, or give data that's extremely misleading that will go over most people's heads. Also the same hospitals that are being funded by rich bankers who make high amounts of profits Off people destroying their natural ability to produce hormones, who will have to be on hormones for the rest of their lives and giving the bank who invested in this a constant flow of cash. These surgerys cost a ton of money and often times will be multistage surgerys for bottom surgerys and have such high rates of complications. The problem is theirs people like you who sees a doctor, doesn't even think for themselves or doesn't do their own objective research, doesn't look at horrifying detransitioners storys, then implements their opinion as if it's fact because the dude in the lab coat says so. People will litterally lose huge amounts of funding or get pushed to the side by big institutions that control the medical industry and will push them to the side for giving oppositional information even if it's factually correct. The problem is you put your trust into a goverment that litterally destabilizes countries through the c.i.a and has killed millions and millions of people, started civil wars in multiple different countries. Your so ignorant and caught up in your own make believe world that you would start bursting in tears if you knew the kinda info I knew based on how hopeless and brutal are future will be. You need to get out of lala land and enter back into the real world for a second and throw your emotions out the window. You just sound absolutely ridiculous. The winners of war write history and if you knew how bad things were in actuality you would snap out of whatever liberal trance your in. Instead you'll read this, probably get offended, walk away as if I'm some loon like the rest of the heard and off to the other cattle you'll go. Your goverment and the united nations are not the good guys, their is such a deep complexity to this situation that is censored and pushed to the corners of the internet hidden behind claims of "disinformation and conspiracys."
For example just look up "did doctors think oxycottin was less addictive" and look into this scandal alone. Essentially the manufacturers said they created a non or very little addictive opiate that can be taken for longer, to purely make profits. It was just as addictive and caused suffering in millions of people in the name of profits. Doctors were handed information, they read the information and thought It was true and get kickbacks on prescriptions, so the more they prescribed the more they get. The people fighting against this agenda are aware and that's why they care so much, this isn't all about religion and snobbyness this is way deeper it's just people like you are in fantasy land when it comes to how things actually work.
Who cares? All sorts of people and opininos have and will always exist, that's your problem on giving it too much attention and control over your emotions
@@ckek2547 why even click on the video when the entire point is people caring about other people's opinions.
First minute in and this kid has already used all the words a terminally online 4chan user would use in his post.
The part where he went “yeah that’s what voters care about but i dont” and went on a whole monologue fucking thru me for a loop
There is a good reason for that, he is pretending to be a far right student
@Boo what kind of logic is that
@Boo lol absolutely not. 😂 Tf gave you that idea?
You used "terminally online." While you complain about an idiot using online buzzwords you do the same.
It's always wild to me when you can tell who somebody is a fan of based on their mannerisms and inflection.
@@theludvigmaxis1 What do destiny orbiters do?
@@blackmage665 stimming
They all act like Nick Fuentes. It’s so goddam weird.
@@speedfastman 😭😭😭
@@theludvigmaxis1 Sadly Nick Fuentes is a legitimate cutie.
Difference between first and last student is insane. First guy had pre conceived notions of catholic ideology that was obviously passed on from his family, and the last guy actually put up a good fight from beliefs that clearly came from his own thoughts and not a hive mind.
First guy was just a troll loving attention. Destiny very properly asked him about Fuentes, because he was just 'talking in Fuentes' the whole time really. Guy gives vibes of someone you wouldn't want to say 'hi' to because he would most likely respond with something passive aggressive with a grin on his face just to see you fuming.
I know you guys are shocked but people convert to Catholicism especially those with traditional views, myself included
That first guy was maybe the most smug person I've ever seen. He was in constant disbelief at how well he was coming off.
U mean destiny?
@@abaddon4823we watch the same video?
I wouldn't describe him as smug at all, he was just a funny chilled out guy, even Destiny recognised that and laughed along.
So nice to see Destiny taking the time out of his busy schedule to baby sit Nick’s son. What a good friend.
The first guy?
Right wing dude here, I think destiny is doing a better job than crowder with these change my mind debates. Feels like he’s having real conversations with people instead of trying to DESTROY them.
Crowder is extremely bad faith. He only debates to get his little sound bites. Destiny actually engages with people he disagrees with in good faith.
we are all daliban here
To be fair, Crowder actually brings and cites his claims and evidence. Destiny just says what he claims is correct with no backing. So, to me, these aren't even close to the same. One is a debate, this is a conversation.
its funny that you say that whilst destiny has a sign that says biden has been a good president, he believes this. you're a clown and so is the grifter destiny
It really does feel like a chill convo for the most part, I'm loving this content, man
First guy went from “im not too big on the economy” to “of course the economy is important and I think we’re going to win on that” IN THE SAME BREATH
"thats where im from by the way" he is literally if "nobody asked" was a person
@@maxwalsh234 No, not literally, you complete and utter buffoon
What's wrong with that? There's nothing contradictory about saying that you're "not too big" on something that you know is important.
I think he meant that he's not super educated on it.
@@Cobyba could be but it seemed he was pretty intent on being a contrarian. He kept firing off answers without thinking and said something dumb
I absolutely loved the last guy, based & well informed, which lead to an entertaining & informative civilized debate. 👏🏽
3rd student, Patrick, is me!! Let me know what y’all thought of our convo. HUGE thanks to Destiny and his team for the opportunity.
Also, the 1st guy is so draining. I’ve heard him speak on campus and know of him. Absolutely despicable, trans/homophobic, and racist. Plus, he’s a monarchist 🤢🤮
Found his channel on UA-cam lmao. What a moron.
Hope he gets bullied a lot lol
Cool conversation to listen to, you seem like a cool dude! Nice to finish the video off with someone who wasn’t unhinged hahaha
if you think he's "despicable, transphobic, homophobic, and racist" then i'm gonna assume he's probably a pretty cool guy
monarchist for which monarchy? The british crown? prussia?
The last guy destiny talked to was REALLY smart, he seems to be very knowledgeable on the topic, and it made the conversation way more interesting to listen to
Thanks! That was actually me, glad you enjoyed our convo!
Pat for president
@@PatrickEnglehart 🐐
The naive dsa voter that doesn't understand that the president isn't congress. These people are so bad at politics and run strictly on ideology and good vibes.
notice how this first dude is constantly smiling, sometimes laughing mid-debate, so he can pretend he is not taking any of it seriously or completely joking when his arguments are made to look stupid af
i think he was trolling
Bias is unavoidable. Saying a study disagrees with you because its biased is a moot point.
"i dont believe in trans ppl" what a solid argument
I don't believe in air
I don't believe in water
I don't believe in the sun
Imagine that, like that's insane
Well a boy isn’t a girl. A girl can’t be a boy. You require surgery to “become” the other gender. Trans people are not changing their genders literally, it’s all feelings and yes trans people are confused people whose trans views are affirmed by their peers. I know boys who are now claiming trans girl but we ALL KNOW HES A BOY.
I think he meant, he doesn't believe it's a serious issue or he doesn't believe gender dysphoria is a real thing.
@@krishiebobbybill3209 I think he meant that he doesn't believe in transgenderism.
As it stands, it's impossible to prove the existence of transgender people. The only thing the father of all this nonsense could prove, is that you can't force someone to go against their birth gender. When it comes to people that choose this, most of them desist if not given puberty blockers. And it doesn't even make sense in the face of it, when your side believes there's no important differences between the sexes, and if gender is a social construct then it's impossible to be born with any ideas about it. FFS, we aren't even born with the ability to understand depth, but you think babies are born knowing whether or not they want to wear dresses and which pronouns they prefer?
It’s so surreal watching groypers replicate all of Nick Fuentes mannerisms and speech patterns. It’s insane how much of a cult of personality he’s developed. (Edit: I’ve learned that Carson Wolf is not a groyper but more of a Charlie Kirk style dude. Don’t want to associate him with a group that he’s not a part of.)
Look in my eyes, what do you see? Nick Fuentes is gish galloping.
I was wondering why his cadence was so familiar.
carson wolf is not a groyper
He's not even a groyper. I think he's like a ben shapiro, charlie kirk tpusa kind of guy.
@@chewableviagra6394 how do you know?
Imagine sitting down for intellectual debates and having so much time being wasted by that kid (you know which one) with no choice but to follow through, or else he'd walk away feeling like he won something that never had anything to win 😂.
The third dude should definitely come back. His cadence is perfect, it speaks to so many unheard people, let alone what he is actually saying and how it clashes and oftentimes coincides with what Steven is saying.
These kinds of videos are really good. Us on the left need to be able to actually navigate conversations like this and be rhetorically effective
Yup.. The left has the superior model while the right are Relentless about the game of politics.. Getting lazy liberals out to vote is the real challenge.
just a little hint. videos like these wont improve your rhetorically effectiveness. you got to learnt that through experience.
Try that with someone that is intelligent from the right and you get destroyed. Left ideology is garbage. Doesn't work. Never has.
i cant believe the first guy was able to refrain from calling out jews in the media and instead advocated for himself to get into media. super effective compared to the normal strat people like him have been employing recently.
You use we in the nominative actually
The amount of patience this must take is unfathomable. Hats off.
Yea Destiny can really get under people's skin.
For the sake of the discussion, I think Destiny needs to set some ground rules for the next events. The constant interruptions make the first student insufferable.
It’s not that serious dude
@@sargeteg5927 Is this a joke? Destiny interrupted him way more than the other kid did. What video did you watch..?
@@sargeteg5927 The first student makes the first student insufferable.
these talks are amazing. PLEASE do more of them
The last guy was an awesome conversation. Super well informed and respectful
YESSS. Was looking in the comments for mention of the last guy, but unfortunately people are glued to the groyper. That last convo was great and I'd love to see that guy come on stream sometime for further discussion.
He did really well, and I agreed with him on Ukraine and the war on drugs.
@@hypovisor That’s me!! lol
@@Vember813 that’s me!! lol
Super impressed with his level of genuine interest in politics, whenever someone is super informed its clear they actually care about a topic
That was one of the best change my mind you have had. That last guy seems to be challenging you and I really want to see more of that.
I really think his argument was better than Destiny's, but honestly depending on what your priorities are it could go either way, which is exactly what you wanna see in a debate
You can really see the difference in how destiny argues at first and how they communicate by the end. Would love to see more of him
“I don’t like other cultures” bro what? America is a great country BECAUSE of how many different cultures it is made up of. I’ll never understand how some people would rather everyone be the exact same as themselves, that would be so fucking boring
student 3 was an incredible debate both of you well done!
When Destiny refused to shake that guys hand, I fell out of my chair. I’m also drunk.
That's great keep it up dude
Drunk Destiny fans unite!😂
Oh
I'm drinking and waiting to see it, prost 🍻
Which guy? he shook all of their hands
I think the student made a good point in pointing out that Destiny is a girl's name.
Destiny is also a mid game made by Bungie
Most original and funny Destiny fan
Well done, friend
Trying to make Destiny rebrand his name is like trying to convince pitbulls not to eat children.
@@YeTism just say ‘mediocre’. You’re not doing the world at large any favors
Student 2 loved to use anecdotes to challenge the Covid Stimulus. “Me and my brother both played sports” had me dying😂😂😂
@Last guy: I hope you do more of that, I really enjoyed the respectful conversation!
Amazing back and forth with the last guy, hope he'll make it for a round 2 on stream.
You know he couldn't wait to go home and tell his Discord how well he did.
That dude was actually brain dead lmao
zing! 🤠
second dude is the definition of a goalpost shifter. i feel like he’s actually really close to being able to see the faults in his beliefs/arguments
"you cant do shit to me, my dads a lawyer" energy from the first guy
lol that’s a typical frat-boy quote. He probably just entered into politics and thinks himself as a genius.
I’ve seen other wannabe brilliant people do it before. Conservatism often makes them sick to their own stomachs when years from now, they realize how utterly stupid they truly were and are. Hopefully that type of change enters their lives. The world is diseased by them.
How ? what led you to that 2 iq conclusion ?
Dude had some serious Draco Malloy energy lol
That last guy was really well spoken and really knowledgeable. AND he and Destiny had a really good convo going. That is a trifecta not many that Destiny talks to has.
Sadly they were both defeated by the first guy and his argument for why western architecture is superior.
The last guy and Steven had a great back and fourth. You can tell they are both very intelligent by how the conversation flowed back and fourth. For the record I'm conservative not right wing and destiny is my favorite streamer for debating or whatever it turns into. Lol. Am I the only one that thinks some of these college ones are better conversations than the panels?
Thanks! That was actually me, im glad you enjoyed the convo!
Well spoken does not mean intelligent
@@error5202 you are right. That was an an assumption but I felt he did well on his arguements with destiny. Which is what I am looking for in a debate. But this is only my opinion.
if you watch this beta male your down bad
Idk how intelligent he was tbh.
This was great, continue to do these videos
I'd much prefer to see the host of this discussion having this discussion with other content creators who go around universities performing exactly the same exercise but from the opposite side of the argument to see how their facts and research stack up against one another.
As a European, an American person saying "we're falling apart because of other cultures" bro you guys were literally a melting pot of hundreds of cultures from the get go basically.
The vast majority of them being European.
Yeah that's just you not understanding the situation. Everyone still stays in their own communities or groups and especially in the last 10 years it's been one community vs. the other.
@@SCharlesDennicon lol nope . There were lots of blacks and native Americans and then lots 9f Jewish and east Asians and then indians
@@VARMOT123 Sure. And the vast majority was European. :D
(Plus Jewish people... could come from Europe... dafuq)
@@SCharlesDenniconDo you have any idea how impressive it is to get Europeans to not soak the fields in each other's blood?
The "im not shaking your hand" got me dying bro 😭
That last dude destiny talked with was awesome. I’d love to hear these two talk more!
really enjoyed that last conversation
Second guy was amazing, first guy either won't benefit much from college since he's so ideologically attached to certain views that he will disregard all counter evidence - or benefit a lot from having his faith shaken.
great job, Steven! these events are a great success, and the conversations are really important
He should fly to Texas to meet Steven to have a Chinge my Mind off.
If you have a private sale of a firearm, it is not required that you register it at the point of the sale, but based on the laws of the state in which you reside, the gun, dependent on the type, has to be registered to you to be able to carry it legally in the state as an open carry, or especially, a concealed firearm.
For example, in NC where I live, you can take a handgun to a legal FFL gun dealer and they will process the paperwork to re-register the gun in your name. That way the gun is traced back to you, as a legal gun owner, and it alleviates the liability of the seller as there is now documentation of the transfer of ownership. This is simple "CYA" in gun ownership - it would be imprudent for someone to sell a firearm to someone they don't know, and not have that firearm registered to the buyer. If they do not process the transfer of ownership, like the guest said, it CAN be traced back to the original seller and they can be held responsible for the use of that firearm, let's say, if it were used in the act of a violent crime.
Learn the laws of your state and document, document, document... Cover your own A**... Common sense gun laws.
love this series
3:36 "You're saying there is virtue in just choosing to do something"
Yes. It's called freedom - the one thing that makes America great.
He’s an “illiberal” so he probably doesn’t really care about the concept of freedom.
This dude is a legitimate moron. Imagine actually arguing there is no real difference between choosing to do something and having it forced on you.
Canada has freedom, Japan has freedom, Australia has freedom, Scandinavian countries have freedom, European countries have freedom….
That last guy was great actually destiny should invite him on to chat more often. No bullshit, actually addressing policy and a contender to be sure
Thanks! That guy was actually me lol. i’m glad you enjoyed our convo! Id be down to speak with destiny again, not sure how I’d set that up tho…
@@PatrickEnglehart run for office
@Pat Englehart hey big fan after watching the convo, you on ig?
"I played sports, my brother played sports" lol
the debate with that last guy was really awesome
What an opening statement
When Destiny tries to minimize the studnent debt issue, he always leaves out the huge percentage of people who drop out for whatever reason and dont have a nice degree to get a high paying job to mitigate the student loans
funny because he is a drop out who couldn't afford college
@@TheCrimsonArchivist Depends in what degree. I don't know exactly what the stats are today, but iirc most STEM degrees pay themselves of completely in a couple of years.
@@noammanakermorag9538 yea but if STEM degrees are the only well paying degrees, everyone who is interested in anything else is basically screwed. It's like saying the only thing of value that a person can do is in STEM, and you're just dumb if you want to study anything else.
We shouldn't reward quitting.
@@sinatra222 yes we should discourage quitting by making it easier to afford college
It's funny watching Destiny debate these people makes me, a long time conservative, feel way more centrist.
i would love to see you do this again 10 months later lol
I’m a bit more right than left and that 1st student was making me feel very uncomfortable with the things he was saying.
He was a little obnoxiously aggressive, and I'm generally conservative
I think he’s an alt-right dude. Which imo they go against all right wing values.
@@MrGgabber hi Generally Conservative, I'm Dad! weird name you got there, is is German or something? >.
Lol
@@alext.1244 what?
Here’s my thing destiny-does college HAVE to be that expensive? I think the issue is that it’s unnecessarily expensive, and lowering the cost to more reasonable cost would allow for more people to go to college.
This dude thinks he’s so much better than he actually is - awesome job Destiny
Holy shit. I knew the first dude was a fuentes drone from the first words he spoke LMAO
That kid has the confidence of a child that didn't stop breast feeding until he was in middle school.
Children believe fantasies like being what they aren't
Conversations like these give me hope. Thank you!
@Ruben O. No.
@@cunk1020 what do you they give you hope towards lol
Damn student 3 POPPING OFF
"The great writers, some of them white, some of them, not so much."
This f*cking guy. 😂
I don't think I've ever seen a bigger group of bots than Nick Fuentes clones
I super enjoyed you're conversation with the third guy. You two have some good conversation chemistry.
That’s me! lol
@@PatrickEnglehart Really well spoken mate, well done
Not thinking the cost of college is too high is WILD Destiny.
Last convo was GREAT
The only decent challenger.
Thanks, that was actually me lol. Glad you enjoyed our convo!
Destiny: The research clearly shows that transgenderism exists.
Guy: No it doesn't
Destiny: Yes it does.
Guy: Nope
Very productive conversation.
Losers make arguments in debates.
Gigachads just say "yes" and "no" over and over until one of them dies from exhaustion.
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o so you admit you’re a gigachad?
@@watering.plants. yes
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o do yuh luv bla peepl?
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o chadhominem: ugly people are wrong
I really enjoyed last conversation tbh, this is a cool format
that’s me lol! glad you enjoyed it!!
Loved the last dude
Has this kid not ever seen the amazing architecture in Dubai..probably some of the greatest architecture on the planet. Bigger and better than anything the US has ever created..
The most interesting bit was when you called him a 'groyper' and called out where his talking points were coming from and he denied it, almost looked like he was offended by being associated with the biggest promoter of his views.
Because it shatters the image they have of themselves. They’re not as smart or as big of an “independent thinker” they believe themselves to be
Carson had a major split with Fuentes. Nick openly loathes him.
@@Boogenhagenn oh I had no idea there was history there. That explains his reaction more.
Id be offended too to be associated with a fringe white nationalist movement despite having no ties to them.
@@sacredgear t. Des(tiny) watcher
I really appreciate Destiny having conversations with both the left and the right. So many times throughout history, we end up with situations where those of the dominant ideology refuse to engage in discourse with the opposition. Not only does it create an echo chamber for those in power. It leads the censored group to believe that their views are put down not on their merit, but because those in power truly have no valid argument as to why Destiny should be a man's name.
Thanks for this hot take.
I work as a letter carrier with USPS. At the start of the pandemic my girlfriend was laid off from her job and was making significantly more with UI than I was working 6 days a week as an essential worker.
First guy was a nut case
Insane how you can tell a groyper irl by how they don’t talk like an actual person, they talk like they’re still on the internet.
This guy!
"So you wanna ignore their suicide rate?"
"Well the suicide rate improves after successful treatment if they're in a supporting community."
"How do you even measure that?"
(Facepalm)
That's a lie too, since the suicide rate is vastly unchanged regardless of having this fabled "supporting community".
Not to mention that gender is supposedly a social construct detached from sex and yet the 'treatment' is to attempt to change their biology through hormones and operations that are purely based on assigned sex.
@@almcjones2132 every study on the topic of how medical transitioning impacts suicidality has found that it massively reduces it, no matter what their surrounding community is like. There does not exist a single study suggesting that amputating a wanna-be-handicap is in any way beneficial to them. There also does not exist a single study suggesting that telling a schizophrenic that the wall is talking to them is in any way beneficial to them.
@@almcjones2132 Go back to school bruh. Immediately.
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Most people believe unarmed black people are murdered by the police 1000s of times a year based on "studies". There's a difference between science and social science.
How do people not understand that guns dont get registered. Thats like, part of the whole deal, no federal registry.
This happening is amazing!!
The whole vid was great, I loved the final topic about the crime bill to me the kid seemed to have a solid argument and it was great seeing the back and forth. Hope to see more of the "Change my mind" vids.
thanks, that was me!
@@PatrickEnglehart No worries, keep it up. 👍
Destiny the only man to do "Change my mind" style videos and they're actually entertaining instead of cringe 2 people screaming.
I dunno, Crowder usually seems pretty chill and regardless of how you feel about him he at least provides references for his claims so people can further investigate. I think that’s the one thing Destiny is missing
@@michaelvigil3436 a lot of the time this leads to Crowder just trying to paint himself in a better light after the fact. To me thats unfair to the other side that doesn't get to go back and edit the video.
I think maybe this could be done fairly, such as pointing to evidence to clear up confusions about details that both had at that time, but would be somewhat irrelevant to the video because it was knowledge that neither party had during the debate.
It was usually rabid students yelling at Crowder or straight up throwing things at him. I don’t remember Crowder really ever yelling at anyone and if so it was rare and def more from the opposite side
@@Yuh_mama see that's the issue though. Crowder prays upon people that are less confident and more irrational on their opinions (generally speaking) because it makes him look good. He's trying to frame himself in a positive light, not really pursue a constructive conversation.
@@RiskyBiscuit How is it you can know crowders/destinys reasons for doing things?
It can be seen as a small thing, but: I really like that you give the other person their own mic. It just makes it more balanced, it feels less like someone being in controll and holding the "talking stick" lol
You should do a change my mind with crowder on these topics
Third guy was really jazzed up. Enjoyed his convo with Destiny and his passion in talking about the topics of the discussion.
Thanks! That was actually me, glad you enjoyed our convo!
How does Destiny have this level of patience? The kid is something 'special'.
I think because he's looking at them as a stupid or as we say in the South "Bless their hearts"
'Cause he is interested in understanding and changing people's mind on stuff he finds important
Which one? All three of them had valid points and some stuff that made no sense, just like Destiny.
The man cut his teeth on 2015/2016 online reactionaries. This dude is nothing new.
Wtd are you talking about? Normal people dont lose their cool unless theres something crazy.
The third student was actually pretty based, especially compared to the first one (and the second)
"Chill on the transphobia" within like 2 minutes. What did that guy even say that was transphobic?
The 3rd guy is by far the most intelligent I've seen destiny debate so far.
That’s me! lol
@@PatrickEnglehart You did awesome dude, seriously. Great attitude, great points, great comebacks, great questions It was awesome seeing another form of genuine good faith and intelligence engage with Destiny. Definitely one of my favorite conversations in this "Destiny Change my mind" series; I wish you well brother, thank you for the good content. Keep inspiring
Last dude was really chill. Good back-and-forth.
Its crazy to think that we life in the same world as the first dude
“I covered the story so…”
Okay well who did the reporting?
“….. uh… me”
😂
I felt bad when he started crying internally when destiny said I'm not shaking your hand.
I appreciate you arguing about this destiny.
I think there’s a difference Destiny glossed over early in the vid. Just because parents and a doctor unanimously decide to give a child a sex change operation, that doesn’t mean it’s the right decision.
We have age of consent laws for a reason. Children simply don’t have the mental wherewithal to consent to what is essentially an elective surgery. Especially one that will fundamentally change them permanently.
Except children don’t get their stuff cut off
Their gender changes with hormones lol
The only time underage people get their stuff cut off is if there is a catastrophic medical disease affecting that area
Except most of the time hormones don’t make permanant changes
That third debate was so good!
That was me lol, thank you!
@@PatrickEnglehart Great work
Dude in the plaid button up pulled up ready and with receipts, idk how destiny could even attempt to dispute the "pull our forces from Sadia Arabia to show them they need us more then we need them" thing that was beautiful.
Thanks man, that was actually me, glad you enjoyed our convo!
@@PatrickEnglehart well u earned a sub my friend, keep being you. Very respectful and of sound mind. Never felt like you got lost or distracted with the Convo. Would love to see you speak more!
@@PatrickEnglehart Dude. You were genuinely impressive. I disagreed with you on the specifics of dealing with Russia and crime, but otherwise I strongly agreed with you. You clearly have a great mind.