I can't choose buying the full kit is the only valid option for product photography...I am feeling that wasted my life in heave rigs to have 1 second shot...now ... we can do moooore ...I like all the shots..
It is weird that they aren't selling a kit with one rear group and three probes lenses. Or even just selling the three probe lens groups separately. That was my original assumption on how they would sell the kit rather than as three full lens sets.
Yeah I originally wrote the script presuming this was how they would do it too. It's a shame that they don't offer a bundle as such at a lower price for people who are happy to swap the rear group. Jake
I agree. The price point for all three of them puts this out of reach for someone wanting to take a chance on them and/or play with them on a spec commercial basis. I think this moves them to the rental house more than the individual.
I think a toolless changeover and selling a set of 3 with one rear module makes much more sense. You could buy a second separate rear for another mount type and do fast switching if needed as well. Agree the lack of clutch lens rotation from the Periprobe is an oversight. The waterproof line is also welcome - had someone hand me back a wreck after going too deep in a river. A great job that hopefully gets a few tweaks to be perfect
Fantastic comparison as always. When you compare the quality between lenses I wish that you would zoom in and show them at the screen together. So you show for example a grid of 4 at the same time. This makes it much easier compare. I did this myself by just taking screens from yours and putting them next to each other. We currently have the previous periprobe and it is fantastic but plan on upgrading to using EF mount. I like that you can switch to PL mount easily. It feels like EF is dying and RF cannot quite replace it with Canon not letting others develop for it so we may have to move over to PL mount at a point. Sadly there are so many interesting still lenses that I would like to use while filming and the PL mounts can be so expensive. I'm looking at you Zeiss Supreme lenses.
Laowa keeps innovating with these speciality lenses. WOW! Totally random question. But, I'm Curious why you guys are using a PortKeys on your Raptor and not the RED/SmallHD control? I'm planning to rent a Raptor for some projects at the end of the month. I have a pair of BM5s but were thinking maybe two small for 8K...
It was purely because we are rotating our showroom stock and don’t have a DSMC3 monitor to use. We 100% would be using a DSMC3 monitor if we had one!!! Jake
Would be great to test v1 probe vs periprobe vs pro2. The pro2 is so much bigger and longer than it will be more difficult to use it, and more shaky when used on motion control. For me the best one is still the v1 probe.
I love to browse your website. Especially the demo/used section aince you see bery unique lenses that aren't ever showing up to my consumer eyes. Like those century optics modular periscope system. Via my intrest for thermal cameras, I came across some of the camera/lens constructions by Martin Dohrn and they had all kinds of macro kit to film ants with a motion control rig. I do enjoy seeing all this specialized tools shown to a more broader audience, since the idea of crafting something unique in a studio or capturing wildlife from a perspective inaccessible to human eyes is the level of craftsmanship I like in filmmaking. Will this product open it up for a broader userbase? I honestly doubt it. I have the 6mm cine from laowa and really dislike the lens cap too. It isnt screwed, grabbed or magnetic. Just some felt on the side. It slips out way to easily. So you cant really keep the lens in your pocket or loosely in a bag (which I usually do). It does come with a nice pelican case tho.
I took my Zoom video recorder and cut away part of the front shroud to remove the m12 lens it has. I then put an f0.95 lens on it. OMG AMAZING. Can unscrew it for massive macro and I don't have any lighting problems with it at all. It can see IR also.
Can the 35degree one be straight too, or is it only for filming from above? I want to buy one of them, but hope to find one that fits for all my miniature filmings.
2 steps forward, 1 back. Reckon there's any way to fit one after market? I'd consider paying to machine something if there was space/the design allowed for something to fit on it. Then I suspect the Prob3 (?) will be back to geared rotation... sigh.@@CVPTV
@@Ed.Mantle We discussed this while testing. I think it could be possible though it will be tight to the mount. I'm sure someone will try it but yeah, fingers crossed Laowa listen to the feedback and update it with some of the things noted in this video! Jake
interesting lens, but, for those of us who use F stops, aka most photographers, could you explain the difference?, is 1T = f0.95? OR F1.2 ? as not many would understand what you, or Laowa for that matter mean.
These are mind expanding and interesting, I can see why you need so much light. With the foothold GoPro have on the industry, I'd be surprised if they don't one day branch into that genre, too. GoPro cameras are dominating some segments of UA-cam presently but their close focus ability is poor. I wonder how hard it would be to tweak their lenses to offer close focus up tight.
I feel you could have been more explicit and stated up front the lens was supplied to you for a review. Now I wait some someone who bought on to talk about it. Its been two months and nothing..
The lens was sent for us to test but we decide whether to review something or not on this channel. We give brands feedback about kit all the time and are upfront and honest in our videos. The products we sell aren’t toys, they are professional tools for people to use for their business or create art and we pride ourselves on educating people/customers the pros and cons each product has, so they can make the most informed rental or purchased decision. May be worth trying to rent one locally so you can evaluate the lens yourself before forking out the cash for one. Let me know if you have any questions, Jake
I'm hoping they release a version like the Periprobe which comes with the different front attachments but one rear lens block to help bring the cost down! Jake
100% agree, after all the middle barrel section of all three options is is problem much same so why buy this three times ! Makes no sense to us independents. @@CVPTV I dont quite follow what the 35' degrees option can do that that the 90' can't, as the 90' appears to also have a 35 to 45 degrees angle at the end and is not straight ?
What was your favourite shot we created with the Pro2be in this video? 🤔
I think the shots where you rotate it from the coffee cup to the subject, think that looks really cool
I think the half and half surface / submerged are always cool shots.
This looks like a decent alternative to TS-160 Robusto or much more expensive kit
I can't choose buying the full kit is the only valid option for product photography...I am feeling that wasted my life in heave rigs to have 1 second shot...now ... we can do moooore ...I like all the shots..
The rotating shots around the watch! So cool
@@philldixon8001 yes I was wondering just the same and a little bird told me there is more is to come magnification wise ..
It is weird that they aren't selling a kit with one rear group and three probes lenses. Or even just selling the three probe lens groups separately. That was my original assumption on how they would sell the kit rather than as three full lens sets.
Yeah I originally wrote the script presuming this was how they would do it too. It's a shame that they don't offer a bundle as such at a lower price for people who are happy to swap the rear group. Jake
I agree. The price point for all three of them puts this out of reach for someone wanting to take a chance on them and/or play with them on a spec commercial basis. I think this moves them to the rental house more than the individual.
I think a toolless changeover and selling a set of 3 with one rear module makes much more sense.
You could buy a second separate rear for another mount type and do fast switching if needed as well.
Agree the lack of clutch lens rotation from the Periprobe is an oversight.
The waterproof line is also welcome - had someone hand me back a wreck after going too deep in a river.
A great job that hopefully gets a few tweaks to be perfect
Creative shots are 🔥💣 good work guys
Fantastic comparison as always. When you compare the quality between lenses I wish that you would zoom in and show them at the screen together. So you show for example a grid of 4 at the same time. This makes it much easier compare. I did this myself by just taking screens from yours and putting them next to each other. We currently have the previous periprobe and it is fantastic but plan on upgrading to using EF mount. I like that you can switch to PL mount easily. It feels like EF is dying and RF cannot quite replace it with Canon not letting others develop for it so we may have to move over to PL mount at a point. Sadly there are so many interesting still lenses that I would like to use while filming and the PL mounts can be so expensive. I'm looking at you Zeiss Supreme lenses.
Laowa keeps innovating with these speciality lenses. WOW!
Totally random question. But, I'm Curious why you guys are using a PortKeys on your Raptor and not the RED/SmallHD control? I'm planning to rent a Raptor for some projects at the end of the month. I have a pair of BM5s but were thinking maybe two small for 8K...
It was purely because we are rotating our showroom stock and don’t have a DSMC3 monitor to use. We 100% would be using a DSMC3 monitor if we had one!!! Jake
@@CVPTV thanks good to know
Would be great to test v1 probe vs periprobe vs pro2. The pro2 is so much bigger and longer than it will be more difficult to use it, and more shaky when used on motion control. For me the best one is still the v1 probe.
Hi, you're welcome to visit our motion control studio. Let us now, we are available. Have a good day.
Great review, thank you very much!
I love to browse your website. Especially the demo/used section aince you see bery unique lenses that aren't ever showing up to my consumer eyes. Like those century optics modular periscope system.
Via my intrest for thermal cameras, I came across some of the camera/lens constructions by Martin Dohrn and they had all kinds of macro kit to film ants with a motion control rig.
I do enjoy seeing all this specialized tools shown to a more broader audience, since the idea of crafting something unique in a studio or capturing wildlife from a perspective inaccessible to human eyes is the level of craftsmanship I like in filmmaking.
Will this product open it up for a broader userbase? I honestly doubt it.
I have the 6mm cine from laowa and really dislike the lens cap too. It isnt screwed, grabbed or magnetic. Just some felt on the side. It slips out way to easily. So you cant really keep the lens in your pocket or loosely in a bag (which I usually do). It does come with a nice pelican case tho.
Probes are around since long. Its just the Canon mount which is new and properly changed the price astronomical
T40?! Goddamn no wonder you were using so much light!
We shot most of it at T8 to T16! Jake
It’d be cool if they had a button that would allow different rotation angles instead of wimpy grub screws.
informative video thanks CVP.
I took my Zoom video recorder and cut away part of the front shroud to remove the m12 lens it has. I then put an f0.95 lens on it. OMG AMAZING. Can unscrew it for massive macro and I don't have any lighting problems with it at all. It can see IR also.
My old Samsung can see IR too =)
Can the 35degree one be straight too, or is it only for filming from above?
I want to buy one of them, but hope to find one that fits for all my miniature filmings.
yes i will by 2 of each, thank you very much
because of your video, MKBHD has 2 on order already probably :)
Baffled by no gearing on the rotation like the periprobe! Literally stopped my order in its tracks.
Such a shame would have been an awesome addition!! Jake
2 steps forward, 1 back. Reckon there's any way to fit one after market? I'd consider paying to machine something if there was space/the design allowed for something to fit on it. Then I suspect the Prob3 (?) will be back to geared rotation... sigh.@@CVPTV
@@Ed.Mantle We discussed this while testing. I think it could be possible though it will be tight to the mount. I'm sure someone will try it but yeah, fingers crossed Laowa listen to the feedback and update it with some of the things noted in this video! Jake
I'm seeing a lot of dust specs in the image. Were they inside the lens?
If you could only get one which one would you get?
Great video. Obviously it’d depend on user by user needs but if you were to only get one module which one would you pick up?
Thanks Owen! I would go with the 35 degree personally, it's the one I kept reaching for the most! Jake
interesting lens, but, for those of us who use F stops, aka most photographers, could you explain the difference?, is 1T = f0.95? OR F1.2 ? as not many would understand what you, or Laowa for that matter mean.
So they are similar. T is always more restrictive. So T8 could be f/7 or f/7.5 for example
These are mind expanding and interesting, I can see why you need so much light. With the foothold GoPro have on the industry, I'd be surprised if they don't one day branch into that genre, too. GoPro cameras are dominating some segments of UA-cam presently but their close focus ability is poor. I wonder how hard it would be to tweak their lenses to offer close focus up tight.
Great review. What do you think causes the colour shift? Would that be down to the coating of the glass or
Hopefully it improves with the full production units, but yeah could be a coating difference or something else. Thanks for watching, Jake
so how did you archive 8:26 exactly?
cute elephant
I feel you could have been more explicit and stated up front the lens was supplied to you for a review. Now I wait some someone who bought on to talk about it. Its been two months and nothing..
The lens was sent for us to test but we decide whether to review something or not on this channel. We give brands feedback about kit all the time and are upfront and honest in our videos. The products we sell aren’t toys, they are professional tools for people to use for their business or create art and we pride ourselves on educating people/customers the pros and cons each product has, so they can make the most informed rental or purchased decision. May be worth trying to rent one locally so you can evaluate the lens yourself before forking out the cash for one. Let me know if you have any questions, Jake
*waits for Astrhori to make a single base, 3 lens kit for a 3rd of the price of one Laowa*
Hritik roshan in parallel universe 😂
Ouch I didn't expect the price tag of £8k from Laowa, I'll stick with my original Probe Lens.
I'm hoping they release a version like the Periprobe which comes with the different front attachments but one rear lens block to help bring the cost down! Jake
100% agree, after all the middle barrel section of all three options is is problem much same so why buy this three times ! Makes no sense to us independents. @@CVPTV I dont quite follow what the 35' degrees option can do that that the 90' can't, as the 90' appears to also have a 35 to 45 degrees angle at the end and is not straight ?
If I would get a dime every time a youtuber says "game changer", I wouldn't have to work any more .
Just use a regular lens, dude.
Chtudio
pro2be is obviously just pronouced protube 😭😭😭
Actually Kevin from Laowa has confirmed it’s pronounced “Pro-to-be” on his Facebook. Jake
@@CVPTV ohh interesting