A lot of how a rifle groups is the twist rate of the barrel. I’ve shot ballistic tips in every rifle except my AR and I’ve never had a bad experience with the Nosler ballistic tips so far.
My howa 7mm08 likes 140 grain Norma ammo really like the cartridge and can’t wait to get to use it deer hunting this year. Thanks for the video and information.
My Remington 788 in 7-08 would shoot Remington Core-lokt 120 grain bullets and 3 shots covered with a dime at 100 yards and the 140 same type ammo would group about 1” but I think Remington stopped making the 120 grain bullets but I sold my 788 rifle so I have not bought any in several years but I still have a box I have kept
I had a 788 in 243. Best damn rifle I ever had. If I could find one now I would gladly trade my savage model 10 or my bergara in 6.5. The 9 rear locking lugs made that rifle the strongest action I have ever handled. I miss it dearly.
I have a 788 in 7mm-08. 140 grain Sierra B.T. handloads will shoot less than MOA group for me all day long. Fugly little guns but they are a work horse.
This is another caliber I see lots of people using these days. I hear it’s good and don’t have bad recoil. Only deer I saw it used on was WTWS doe that rode home on the roof. Thanks again WTW YA DA MAN 🎥💯👍🙏🏻
@@randlerichardson5826 I’ve seen some of your bucks on the channel, very nice. Keep on knocking down them trophy bucks. Good shooting and gods speed to you and yours. 👍👍🏆🦌
you should do a 140 ballistic tip grouping to see results. I have a tikka t3x 6.5 creedmoor and I had issues with the bolt not wanting to close with nosler ammo. I usually shoot hornady precision hunter or norma whitetail and it loves both in 140 grain. The hornady american whitetail is great ammo too
I’ve used Remington coreloks. I’ve taken deer with them and they have never failed me. The problem with factory ammunition is they try to find a happy medium where what they load works well in all rifles. Like I said before coreloks work well but I’ve never loaded any nosler bullet that shot that bad in any cartridge and yes I own a 7mm-08. With that said I’ve never bought nosler factory ammo. I have bought corelok and would buy it again over others.
Next time compare the same grain bullets I would bet your results would be different. Speaking for personal experience and being a reloader for the past 30 years.
Just found 7-08 ammo for the first time in well over a year. Love my savage 7-08 but thought seriously about trading it for a 308 before I found the ammo.
I've got an old Ruger boat paddle Model 77 thirty-ought-six. Had a lot of trouble getting it to group. Sent it back to Ruger a couple times.. Ruger customer service is great by the way. I don't know how true it is in the newer Ruger models. But the Ruger gunsmith told me that I need to try heavier 4 caliber bullets. Tennessee whitetails are usually taken with a 150 grain. Step it up to 168 grain burgers and now it's a tack driver and before it was a two or three inch gun
I have the same gun since I was 15 yrs old ! Mine got stolen out of my truck under my carport few years ago….. I’ll never get that thing back smh 🤦🏻♂️
Just checked out at the web and while Ruger is offering a twist rate of 8 1/2 for its American and Hawkeye (1:8 for its hawkeye in 7mm Rem mag...), Winchester offers its model 70 with a twist rate of 9 1/2 and the Remington 700 with a 1 in 9 1/4 twist. Would be interesting to compare those other rifles with different bullet weights and see what happens. Would also be interesting to shoot different ammo brands using the most suitable bullet weight and measure seating depth and muzzle velocity in each, as twist rate may not be the only factor altering accuracy.
I just watched a gel test and the 140 Remington did 72% weight retention awesome wound cavity and 28 inches of penetration. Wow I just ordered 3 boxes for my 7mm-08 from Midway that is elk and bear performance.
It's definitely about what your rifle likes. I have a Marlin that LOVED the PMC LE 168gr (308) but hated other 168gr loads. Other rifles hated the PMC, preferred others. It goes beyond bullet weight.
@14:11 I love the 7mm-.08 as well, shot my first one in 1986 with a 14" barrel in a Rem bolt action pistol config with purple Pachmayr grips and a 4x12 scope, it was very accurate and powerful with hand-loaded Nosler boat tails bullets. Cleanly went through thick steel plate targets (1/2"-7/16") I suggest hand-loading this round to fit your gun perfectly!
Who tee who, you are the man. You give us a wealth of knowledge and have a great time doing it. I would love to see some shot groups with the core lokt 7.62x39. Especially out of the little Ruger. I bet it would eat them good.
I saw a remington 700 bdl 7mm08 shoot less than 3/4 in groups with 140 grain remington soft points and still within 1in with remington grain hollow points!
Have an older Browning A Bolt in 270 that loves CoreLokt 150 gr. Shot everything from goats to Black Bear with it and have never been disappointed. Don't know what it is...have tried hand loads, and several brands of expensive stuff, but always come back to what works in my set up. Always enjoy your videos, bit of tongue in cheek, as well as educational.
There’s been more boxes of Remington Core-Lokt sold in country stores in rural America than all the high-dollar fancy ammo ever made. It has never failed me.
I hand load the 120gr BT in my 7mm-08, I can assure you that the bullet isn't the issue, it's the loading they are using in that particular load. I can find a suitable load with pretty much any bullet from 120gr to 162gr. As far as I'm concerned the 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip is the absolute best bullet for whitetail out of a 7mm-08.l, followed very closely by a barnes TTSX in 120gr. If you can find a loading that works in your rifle I'd highly recommend slinging one at a deer, I think you will be very impressed.
Gotta be the jump to the rifling. His rifle just really likes the core lokt it seems. Alot of cup & core bullets being shot. Not an issue on deer, obviously.
@Jeremy Schonberger That 120gr ballistic tip has a much thicker jacket than most. I believe I read somewhere that Nosler uses the same cup for the 120gr as they do the 140gr. The jacket itself makes up about 50% of the total weight. Which, in my mind, makes for a hybrid homogeneous/cup and core bullet. You get the explosive expansion you need for broadside shots but maintain enough weight to allow for good penetration for the quartering shots. All of the bullets I've recovered have retained 60-75 grains, and many of the recovered bullets were from a quartering shot at less than 50 yards.
Hi there another great video A few years back I wore a barrel out in my browning 308 A bolt and had worn a few barrels out in another rifle shooting 400-500 red deer a year in NZ as a professional meat hunter and I rebarrelled the browning to 7m08 best thing I ever did I didn’t have any dies for reloading that calibre at that point so I tried the hornady 139gr sp interlock light magnum rounds I believe they were first box couple rounds to site in shot 17 deer in a couple weeks and had 1 bullet left so ended up buying them for a while for memory they shot 3/4” groups at 100yds still good enough to shoot animals 3-400yrds Then started loading them 120gr sp interlocks hornady doing 3170fps with 1/4” groups I could even get a 1” group at 400 yards The only way you will get really good groups is to hand load I have found over the years some of the cheapest ammo usually shoots a little slower than others but are usually a little more accurate and at the end of the day being accurate is better than speed A 1” group or less is best especially if you are going to shoot animals 3-400 yards away Floating your barrel and glass bedding the action can improve your accuracy also
I reload 308 with the ballistic tip projectiles because I can get them cheap and they work for me but when I tried the 165gr nosler production box of ammo it definitely left alot to be desired
Interesting video! You can say the same thing about rifles. Younger me always wanted a Weatherby in .270, but the more important things in life made it price unrealistic, so I settled for a Savage 110 in the same caliber. Rifle was fine, although it was before the accutrigger and also lacked a magazine, so when the Ruger American came out, I traded in the Savage for one and couldn’t be happier. Shoots cloverleafs @ 50 yards and on a good day (for me) it has done sub-MOA 3 shot groups @ 100 using Winchester Power Points. The Weatherby is certainly prettier, but older me realizes the rifle is a tool and for my hunting, a shot at 200 yards is hard to come by. So a $400 rifle with a $200 Redfield scope has gotten me just as many deer as that much pricier rifle I had my sights set on. Side note, the factory trigger on the Ruger American is the best trigger of any of my rifles. What do you thing about the Ruger?
7mm-08 is still one of my favorite cartridges of all time. I think it strikes the perfect balance between good ballistics, lower recoil and knock down power. Definitely underrated. 140 corelok has always done me well dropped anything I pointed it at within 50 yds most of them on the spot.
@@PC-uh6hk It’s definitely a shame some of these older cartages are falling out of favor. All the new craze seems to be super high BC bullets and/or barrel burners. 257 Robert’s is a perfect example of a wonderful cartridge that’s all but dead.
I shoot Winchester ballistic silver tip, in all my hunting guns. It's good ammo & groups great. But I haven't been able to find any for my 7mm Rem. Mag. That's all that's been shot through it, since it came out of the box. 20 sum yrs ago. It's a Rem. 700 sendero fluted bull barrel.
On that first shot I would have not tried to force that bullet in the chamber obvious there was a problem with that cartridge a lot has to do with the overall cartridge length and a powdered are using and how consistent the bullet weight is
Glad you brought this caliber back out, it's a good one, seems like most 7-08 do better with at least 130-140 grain from what I seen, I want one lol...
I'm in the same boat, I just grabbed a Gen 1 Ruger American in 7-08 while they can still be found in stock & 7 different type boxes of ammo just to see how they perform in my particular rifle, but, I did skip the extra pricey Nosler stuff for now. Too bad you didn't get your hands on some of the 140grn Privi PSP BT's, I'm very interested in seeing how they perform. And the price point of that ammo is pretty darn nice. I am set up to reload this caliber, but, that is a story for another day.
My .300 win mag, .308 and 30.06 shoot the expensive stuff well. My .243 and .30-30 like the cheap stuff. I do a pretty extensive ammo test with all my new hunting rifles to find the best combo. I think that most of what you pay for is, of course consistency in velocity, but also terminal performance. My .243 shoots federal fusion sub moa all day, and have taken 3 deer with it. 2 of them ran over 100 yards because the bullet broke up and didn't exit, but is the most accurate round that rifle shoots. Great video! I look forward to more!
My buddy and ffl got into 7mm08 last year. So I loaded him a bunch of nosler brass with these vintage nosler partitions my uncle had 40 yrs ago . After seeing the cost to shoot it he sold the gun and went back to 308 win .
WHO_TEE_WHO you so right about knowing the twist rate of your rifle, before buying any ammunition. It’s not the weight of the bullet, it’s the length of the bullet that determines accuracy.
IMHO Cold Barrel testing should be done OR let the Bbl cool down between shots,I love my Rem M-7 7mm/08 wt a 18.5" Bbl she eats 120grSSt & 129grSSt Hornady ammo all day long Rember it's the cold Bbl shot that counts, not the two after!!!
Outstanding presentation tonight to show people that bullet weight always counts it just depends on which weapon you're using and which bullet your weapon likes to fling out there as long as it is a below one but not always True because if you're group is within the kill radius you can use anything but again if you are a competitor and you want bullseye accuracy you must weight out your bullet your powder and even your brass counts.
It's all about what each rifle "likes". I have a rifle that loves the el-cheapo Federal. I have another that loves $$$ Barnes TSX. Key is to test it out!
Great video WTW! High quality as always! I have a question for you. I want to get my first hunting rifle and don’t have a ton of experience with shooting. I’ve been kind of nervous about recoil but have decided that I need to suck it up. Which caliber would you say is decent for hunting without a ton of recoil? I know .243 is really good but if I want to hunt bigger I’d have to get another rifle. Is .270 good on the recoil side of things? Any other suggestions? Thank you!
When the 7mm-08 Rem. was first introduced the 139 grain Hornady bullet was the hot cartridge to use, 140 grain bullets supposedly just couldn't compete. Possible because the 7mm-08 was a joint venture between Remington and Hornady. Ahhh , what a difference 40 years can make. It wasn't a good sign when you had to hammer the bolt closed on those 120 gr. BTBT cartridges. Either the (0AL) case length was off or the chamber was cut short. I predicted that the 140 gr. Would win. Its N0T necessarily bullet weight that is affected bu rate of twist, in actuality its bullet length that determines the outcome. Even though the Nosler didn't "seem" as accurate as the Remington, in a barrel with a different twist rate it may have shot better ; just N0T in Y0UR rifle. A 120 grain Nosler could have improved ballistics, better expansion and less wind drift over longer ranges. Something you didn't attempt to test. Your major concern was only centered around 100 yard accuracy from your Ruger American.
My local shop has the 120 and 140 grain nosler ballistic tips for 44.99 a box and the core lokts are 45.99 a box. The price you paid for them noslers is absolutely insane.
My 7mm0o i tried five factory ammo rem 140 hornady whitetail fed power shk fed fusion and nosler bt 140 fusion shoot around 3 quarters group and nosler about 1inch the nosler bt work well
I’m a Ruger American Fan I have several calibers in the Ruger American the 1-10 twist won’t handle light weight bullets very, I have a Winchester XPR in 7mm08 it handles the 140 grain better than lighter bullets.
I never shot nosler or a 7mm08 but I have shot corelokts out of 2 of my dad's guns and my 308 and got sub moa groups out of all of them so I thinking the corelokts got it
Sr..when you going to test a 7mm Remington mag?.,I purchased one a number of year's ago used 2times an never used again ,reason was miss fire 3times while I close the bolt! The rifle is been in my safe for over 20 years,my question is ,what to do with it! Disassembled my self ,out of the question I know basic's only, I lived in Newman CAL. And I can not find any gunsmiths so I been stock with this rifle for long time,,, any suggestions will be appreciated, thank you.. PS.I been watching you show for a number of year's know it is very informative lots of great data on you're test's,, that, I been saving for my self, hope you don't mine,,thanks again you're fun
Hi I am new to shooting the 7mm 08 cartridge . I have a Ruger American generation 2 .I was wandering what grain of cartridge would work well with my rifle and also his there a company of ammunition better in making cartridge then a other company thank you
I'm getting ready to do a test like this, with the exact same rifle. I'm going to compare Hornady 139 gr vs PPU 140 gr 7mm-08. Obviously the Hornady being more expensive
Long before the Ruger American came out I owned a M77 stainless in .308. I couldn't get it to shoot 3 shot groups OVER 1.5 inches. Ammo it liked went under an inch. I drilled a mulie with it at about 100 yards using the good old core lot 150 grainers. He dropped like he got hit by lightning!
I thank you for the video. I do not have a 7mm-08 but it looks like it packs a punch. I do have 2 .308 rifles and they both like 145-150 gr. The Ruger American likes the PMC 147 best. Of everything i have tried so far.
139 or 140 grain bullets have been good in the two 7mm08 rifles I have shot. Remington Core lokt have always worked well in any rifle I have tried them in of any caliber.
This proves that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. But it put a bee in my bonnet. I know that barrel temp makes groups open up, but how much? If you could get an IR thermometer and take barrel temperature readings between shots and see how much difference there is between a hot vs cold barrel that might make for an interesting video. 🤔
Kind of seems like apples to oranges on this one. If we're acting on the assumption that your rifle prefers 140s, then is the poor grouping with the noslers saying anything about nosler? They definitely offer 140-150gr loadings for the 7-08, whos to say a 140gr nosler wouldn't have beat out the core-lokt by 1/4 or even a half minute? We'll never know
You taking that deer was either the first or second video of yours I saw. That was before I even knew who u were. I was looking up video on the 7mm-08 the 243 and 270. I watched that video and you shoot steel comparison between 243 and 270. I didn't even know that was you till later after I subscribed and you posted a short of them two in a previous video.
That's why I like handloading. I can take just about any weight bullet and make it shoot good. You just have to find the proper powder and velocity for your particular rifle.. My main deer load uses a 150gr. Nosler ballistic Tip. Sub MOA groups every time. When you only shoot factory you can't control the components.
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A lot of how a rifle groups is the twist rate of the barrel. I’ve shot ballistic tips in every rifle except my AR and I’ve never had a bad experience with the Nosler ballistic tips so far.
I know you can't just find whatever you want with ammo but I would be curious to see how 140 grain Noslers do in this rifle.
My howa 7mm08 likes 140 grain Norma ammo really like the cartridge and can’t wait to get to use it deer hunting this year. Thanks for the video and information.
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My Howa likes the Norma Whitetail 150s too. But it absolutely hates the Hornady 150 ELDX.
Go figure.
Great video! This will def help some people for sure. Im loving all the content you have been putting out, it is what i look forward to
Always appreciate you watching!
My Remington 788 in 7-08 would shoot Remington Core-lokt 120 grain bullets and 3 shots covered with a dime at 100 yards and the 140 same type ammo would group about 1” but I think Remington stopped making the 120 grain bullets but I sold my 788 rifle so I have not bought any in several years but I still have a box I have kept
I had a 788 in 243. Best damn rifle I ever had. If I could find one now I would gladly trade my savage model 10 or my bergara in 6.5. The 9 rear locking lugs made that rifle the strongest action I have ever handled. I miss it dearly.
I have a 788 in 7mm-08. 140 grain Sierra B.T. handloads will shoot less than MOA group for me all day long. Fugly little guns but they are a work horse.
Not sure why anyone would want to become an ex owner of a Remington 788 but I'm glad there's people out there that do that.
This is another caliber I see lots of people using these days. I hear it’s good and don’t have bad recoil. Only deer I saw it used on was WTWS doe that rode home on the roof. Thanks again WTW YA DA MAN 🎥💯👍🙏🏻
The modern equivalent of .270 Winchester made for short actions.
I’ve killed deer hogs and coyotes with my 7mm-08 great round
@@randlerichardson5826 I’ve seen some of your bucks on the channel, very nice. Keep on knocking down them trophy bucks. Good shooting and gods speed to you and yours. 👍👍🏆🦌
@@dbmail545 it’s for sure a good round. Would like to have one myself. Good shooting to you 👍👍💪🏽
you should do a 140 ballistic tip grouping to see results. I have a tikka t3x 6.5 creedmoor and I had issues with the bolt not wanting to close with nosler ammo. I usually shoot hornady precision hunter or norma whitetail and it loves both in 140 grain.
The hornady american whitetail is great ammo too
I’ve used Remington coreloks. I’ve taken deer with them and they have never failed me. The problem with factory ammunition is they try to find a happy medium where what they load works well in all rifles. Like I said before coreloks work well but I’ve never loaded any nosler bullet that shot that bad in any cartridge and yes I own a 7mm-08. With that said I’ve never bought nosler factory ammo. I have bought corelok and would buy it again over others.
Great video... I'm a believer in the Remington Ammo. Have hunted with it for over 40 years. Never a problem..... Thanks
I have a few deer rifles in different calibers and they all love the Remington cor lokts . My 7-08 loves 140 grainers
Next time compare the same grain bullets I would bet your results would be different. Speaking for personal experience and being a reloader for the past 30 years.
The nosler bt in 125 grains out of a .308 is very impressive!
My Weatherby Vanguard loves them.
We shoot those in my daughters tikka . It’s lights out punching holes. However that gun loves anything you put in it.
Just found 7-08 ammo for the first time in well over a year. Love my savage 7-08 but thought seriously about trading it for a 308 before I found the ammo.
Good video. The first round of the nosler must been off in the sizing or oal .
I've got an old Ruger boat paddle Model 77 thirty-ought-six. Had a lot of trouble getting it to group. Sent it back to Ruger a couple times.. Ruger customer service is great by the way. I don't know how true it is in the newer Ruger models. But the Ruger gunsmith told me that I need to try heavier 4 caliber bullets. Tennessee whitetails are usually taken with a 150 grain. Step it up to 168 grain burgers and now it's a tack driver and before it was a two or three inch gun
Paddle guns are bringing big money these days. And any marlin or winchester levergun.
I have the same gun since I was 15 yrs old ! Mine got stolen out of my truck under my carport few years ago….. I’ll never get that thing back smh 🤦🏻♂️
My 7mm-08 Ruger is becoming my favorite deer rifle and core- lockt has been my favorite hunting ammo for years
Just checked out at the web and while Ruger is offering a twist rate of 8 1/2 for its American and Hawkeye (1:8 for its hawkeye in 7mm Rem mag...), Winchester offers its model 70 with a twist rate of 9 1/2 and the Remington 700 with a 1 in 9 1/4 twist. Would be interesting to compare those other rifles with different bullet weights and see what happens. Would also be interesting to shoot different ammo brands using the most suitable bullet weight and measure seating depth and muzzle velocity in each, as twist rate may not be the only factor altering accuracy.
Possibly your best video ever . I can relate . Keep up the good work .
I just watched a gel test and the 140 Remington did 72% weight retention awesome wound cavity and 28 inches of penetration. Wow I just ordered 3 boxes for my 7mm-08 from Midway that is elk and bear performance.
It's definitely about what your rifle likes. I have a Marlin that LOVED the PMC LE 168gr (308) but hated other 168gr loads. Other rifles hated the PMC, preferred others. It goes beyond bullet weight.
Yup!!!
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Tbh I figured what would be the best group. Ty for the video. Remington for the price is unbeatable. Ty for doing realistic and honest videos
Thanks for watching Shelby
I reload remington core lockts in 6.5, .30, and .243. The holes will touch (2 of 3) core lokts are very accurate, and deadly.
@14:11 I love the 7mm-.08 as well, shot my first one in 1986 with a 14" barrel in a Rem bolt action pistol config with purple Pachmayr grips and a 4x12 scope, it was very accurate and powerful with hand-loaded Nosler boat tails bullets. Cleanly went through thick steel plate targets (1/2"-7/16") I suggest hand-loading this round to fit your gun perfectly!
Who tee who, you are the man. You give us a wealth of knowledge and have a great time doing it. I would love to see some shot groups with the core lokt 7.62x39. Especially out of the little Ruger. I bet it would eat them good.
I have been looking for some. They quit making it
I saw a remington 700 bdl 7mm08 shoot less than 3/4 in groups with 140 grain remington soft points and still within 1in with remington grain hollow points!
Have an older Browning A Bolt in 270 that loves CoreLokt 150 gr. Shot everything from goats to Black Bear with it and have never been disappointed. Don't know what it is...have tried hand loads, and several brands of expensive stuff, but always come back to what works in my set up. Always enjoy your videos, bit of tongue in cheek, as well as educational.
I have a ruger 308 . It likes Norma ammo 150 . And I have ruger 260 it likes Nosler. So I guess they all have kinda a personality . Great videos.
I would say try to go with a 140 grain loading in the nosler cause you also got to factor in the twist rate
Those ballistic tips fragment pretty good i use on small ground squirrels to coyotes
There’s been more boxes of Remington Core-Lokt sold in country stores in rural America than all the high-dollar fancy ammo ever made. It has never failed me.
Maybe Winchester power point sold more
I hand load the 120gr BT in my 7mm-08, I can assure you that the bullet isn't the issue, it's the loading they are using in that particular load. I can find a suitable load with pretty much any bullet from 120gr to 162gr.
As far as I'm concerned the 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip is the absolute best bullet for whitetail out of a 7mm-08.l, followed very closely by a barnes TTSX in 120gr. If you can find a loading that works in your rifle I'd highly recommend slinging one at a deer, I think you will be very impressed.
Gotta be the jump to the rifling. His rifle just really likes the core lokt it seems. Alot of cup & core bullets being shot. Not an issue on deer, obviously.
@Jeremy Schonberger That 120gr ballistic tip has a much thicker jacket than most. I believe I read somewhere that Nosler uses the same cup for the 120gr as they do the 140gr. The jacket itself makes up about 50% of the total weight. Which, in my mind, makes for a hybrid homogeneous/cup and core bullet. You get the explosive expansion you need for broadside shots but maintain enough weight to allow for good penetration for the quartering shots. All of the bullets I've recovered have retained 60-75 grains, and many of the recovered bullets were from a quartering shot at less than 50 yards.
Who tee who thanks for your videos on the Ruger American 7mm-08 Remington. I got mine thanks to you
Hi there another great video
A few years back I wore a barrel out in my browning 308 A bolt and had worn a few barrels out in another rifle shooting 400-500 red deer a year in NZ as a professional meat hunter and I rebarrelled the browning to 7m08 best thing I ever did
I didn’t have any dies for reloading that calibre at that point so I tried the hornady 139gr sp interlock light magnum rounds I believe they were first box couple rounds to site in shot 17 deer in a couple weeks and had 1 bullet left so ended up buying them for a while for memory they shot 3/4” groups at 100yds still good enough to shoot animals 3-400yrds
Then started loading them 120gr sp interlocks hornady doing 3170fps with 1/4” groups I could even get a 1” group at 400 yards
The only way you will get really good groups is to hand load
I have found over the years some of the cheapest ammo usually shoots a little slower than others but are usually a little more accurate and at the end of the day being accurate is better than speed
A 1” group or less is best especially if you are going to shoot animals 3-400 yards away
Floating your barrel and glass bedding the action can improve your accuracy also
Great video. There are people that swear by the 120 bt. Be nice to see a 120 Barnes test they are the same length as a 140 lead.
7mm08 all the way!!!! Dropped that WT. I agree about the ammo brother
My Remington 700 in 7mm-08 likes 140 grain Barnes TTSX's.
I reload 308 with the ballistic tip projectiles because I can get them cheap and they work for me but when I tried the 165gr nosler production box of ammo it definitely left alot to be desired
Interesting video! You can say the same thing about rifles. Younger me always wanted a Weatherby in .270, but the more important things in life made it price unrealistic, so I settled for a Savage 110 in the same caliber. Rifle was fine, although it was before the accutrigger and also lacked a magazine, so when the Ruger American came out, I traded in the Savage for one and couldn’t be happier. Shoots cloverleafs @ 50 yards and on a good day (for me) it has done sub-MOA 3 shot groups @ 100 using Winchester Power Points. The Weatherby is certainly prettier, but older me realizes the rifle is a tool and for my hunting, a shot at 200 yards is hard to come by. So a $400 rifle with a $200 Redfield scope has gotten me just as many deer as that much pricier rifle I had my sights set on. Side note, the factory trigger on the Ruger American is the best trigger of any of my rifles. What do you thing about the Ruger?
7mm-08 is still one of my favorite cartridges of all time. I think it strikes the perfect balance between good ballistics, lower recoil and knock down power. Definitely underrated. 140 corelok has always done me well dropped anything I pointed it at within 50 yds most of them on the spot.
@@PC-uh6hk It’s definitely a shame some of these older cartages are falling out of favor. All the new craze seems to be super high BC bullets and/or barrel burners. 257 Robert’s is a perfect example of a wonderful cartridge that’s all but dead.
Every gun is different as to what ammo it likes and doesn’t like! Your job is to find out the one it does like before hunting season starts!
Yup
I shoot Winchester ballistic silver tip, in all my hunting guns. It's good ammo & groups great. But I haven't been able to find any for my 7mm Rem. Mag. That's all that's been shot through it, since it came out of the box. 20 sum yrs ago. It's a Rem. 700 sendero fluted bull barrel.
On that first shot I would have not tried to force that bullet in the chamber obvious there was a problem with that cartridge a lot has to do with the overall cartridge length and a powdered are using and how consistent the bullet weight is
I just bought a Tikka T3X lefthanded hunter in 7mm-08. Hopefully it will shoot good.
Glad you brought this caliber back out, it's a good one, seems like most 7-08 do better with at least 130-140 grain from what I seen, I want one lol...
Wonder how the 150 grain precision hunter ammo would compare from hornady
Did you ever get to try out the American Whitetail from Hornaday? 139 InterLock makes same hole groups for me!
As far as reloading. You could find a sweet spot with those 120 ballistic tips and a different powder...
I'm in the same boat, I just grabbed a Gen 1 Ruger American in 7-08 while they can still be found in stock & 7 different type boxes of ammo just to see how they perform in my particular rifle, but, I did skip the extra pricey Nosler stuff for now. Too bad you didn't get your hands on some of the 140grn Privi PSP BT's, I'm very interested in seeing how they perform. And the price point of that ammo is pretty darn nice. I am set up to reload this caliber, but, that is a story for another day.
Was watching a K G video got that WTW notification had to tune in rite then. Another great one👍
Thanks for watching Stephen
My .300 win mag, .308 and 30.06 shoot the expensive stuff well. My .243 and .30-30 like the cheap stuff. I do a pretty extensive ammo test with all my new hunting rifles to find the best combo. I think that most of what you pay for is, of course consistency in velocity, but also terminal performance. My .243 shoots federal fusion sub moa all day, and have taken 3 deer with it. 2 of them ran over 100 yards because the bullet broke up and didn't exit, but is the most accurate round that rifle shoots. Great video! I look forward to more!
My buddy and ffl got into 7mm08 last year. So I loaded him a bunch of nosler brass with these vintage nosler partitions my uncle had 40 yrs ago . After seeing the cost to shoot it he sold the gun and went back to 308 win .
Yeah, in times like these when you have to tighten your belt, it's best to have a oldie but goodie base cartridge to fall back on.
I had the same issue with nosler ammo not closing. I called them and they said they hadn't heard of any issues.
Did you compare them again in the gen 2 American?
Another info filled video, Thanks !
WHO_TEE_WHO you so right about knowing the twist rate of your rifle, before buying any ammunition. It’s not the weight of the bullet, it’s the length of the bullet that determines accuracy.
Great video! Thanks for the info!!
Thanks for watching!
7mm-08 is probably my favorite deer cartridges mine didn’t like the nosler 120BT ether but loves the 150g accubond long range and the 120g core-lokt
IMHO Cold Barrel testing should be done OR let the Bbl cool down between shots,I love my Rem M-7 7mm/08 wt a 18.5" Bbl she eats 120grSSt & 129grSSt Hornady ammo all day long Rember it's the cold Bbl shot that counts, not the two after!!!
Outstanding presentation tonight to show people that bullet weight always counts it just depends on which weapon you're using and which bullet your weapon likes to fling out there as long as it is a below one but not always True because if you're group is within the kill radius you can use anything but again if you are a competitor and you want bullseye accuracy you must weight out your bullet your powder and even your brass counts.
So true I have a rem 7400 in 30-06 that loves the corelokt and my Ruger in go wild loves the barns tx and the Browning long range
I would like to see you do a comparison of of the same grain weight from two different manufacturers.
With reloads when the bolt won’t close smooth I have to take a bump the shoulder back a thousandth till it’s smooth
What‘s the twist rate on your rifle?
My 7mm08 Rem 700 Mtn loves the Rem 140 from day 1. Bought in the early 80s they even threw a box in the deal.🇺🇸👍
It's all about what each rifle "likes". I have a rifle that loves the el-cheapo Federal. I have another that loves $$$ Barnes TSX. Key is to test it out!
Great video WTW! High quality as always! I have a question for you. I want to get my first hunting rifle and don’t have a ton of experience with shooting. I’ve been kind of nervous about recoil but have decided that I need to suck it up. Which caliber would you say is decent for hunting without a ton of recoil? I know .243 is really good but if I want to hunt bigger I’d have to get another rifle. Is .270 good on the recoil side of things? Any other suggestions? Thank you!
243 really has enough energy for most you will probably hunt. But if you live where there are elk maybe consider at least 270
@@WHOTEEWHO thank you! I appreciate the advice. Have a great day man
@@heyuhmark2025 you too!
What does it mean when there is a designation of 7mm 08???
I have a 7mm Chilean Mauser.
I had some firing issues with 7mm-08 Remington core lock ammo not firing Started shooting hornady ammo sst and have not looked back
When the 7mm-08 Rem. was first introduced the 139 grain Hornady bullet was the hot cartridge to use, 140 grain bullets supposedly just couldn't compete. Possible because the 7mm-08 was a joint venture between Remington and Hornady. Ahhh , what a difference 40 years can make.
It wasn't a good sign when you had to hammer the bolt closed on those 120 gr. BTBT cartridges. Either the (0AL) case length was off or the chamber was cut short.
I predicted that the 140 gr. Would win.
Its N0T necessarily bullet weight that is affected bu rate of twist, in actuality its bullet length that determines the outcome.
Even though the Nosler didn't "seem" as accurate as the Remington, in a barrel with a different twist rate it may have shot better ; just N0T in Y0UR rifle.
A 120 grain Nosler could have improved ballistics, better expansion and less wind drift over longer ranges. Something you didn't attempt to test.
Your major concern was only centered around 100 yard accuracy from your Ruger American.
My local shop has the 120 and 140 grain nosler ballistic tips for 44.99 a box and the core lokts are 45.99 a box. The price you paid for them noslers is absolutely insane.
I would like to see budget ammo vs expensive ammo. For elk and deer hunting
My 7mm0o i tried five factory ammo rem 140 hornady whitetail fed power shk fed fusion and nosler bt 140 fusion shoot around 3 quarters group and nosler about 1inch the nosler bt work well
Core Lokts have always worked in my Marlin 30-30.
I’m a Ruger American Fan I have several calibers in the Ruger American the 1-10 twist won’t handle light weight bullets very, I have a Winchester XPR in 7mm08 it handles the 140 grain better than lighter bullets.
I never shot nosler or a 7mm08 but I have shot corelokts out of 2 of my dad's guns and my 308 and got sub moa groups out of all of them so I thinking the corelokts got it
My 6.5 Grendel loves Hornady Black and Wolf, but hates Frontier 🤔
I wonder what the difference is between 7mm-08 and 6.8x51 is, besides the 80,000 psi chamber pressure of the 6.8x51?
.277 and .284 caliber
My copy of the bergra b14 like the nosler in the video as well as 140 grain gmx but doesn’t like the 140 sst
Now that Federal owns the Remington ammo name I think that ammo will only get better !
Use to always get 3/4 MOA with remington in 300wm 180gn and 243 80 or 100 gn all day and nothing seems to have changed.
i can't blame yt reminders tonight, i missed the live because i was watching monster jam - big kid! 😂
Which ammo has better ballistics and bullets should also be considered....
Sr..when you going to test a 7mm Remington mag?.,I purchased one a number of year's ago used 2times an never used again ,reason was miss fire 3times while I close the bolt! The rifle is been in my safe for over 20 years,my question is ,what to do with it! Disassembled my self ,out of the question I know basic's only, I lived in Newman CAL. And I can not find any gunsmiths so I been stock with this rifle for long time,,, any suggestions will be appreciated, thank you.. PS.I been watching you show for a number of year's know it is very informative lots of great data on you're test's,, that, I been saving for my self, hope you don't mine,,thanks again you're fun
I have a savage 300wsm that likes 200 grain bullets and doesn’t shoot the light stuff all that great
Hi I am new to shooting the 7mm 08 cartridge . I have a Ruger American generation 2 .I was wandering what grain of cartridge would work well with my rifle and also his there a company of ammunition better in making cartridge then a other company thank you
The 140gr in this video should do good for you
thank you for the great information and video@@WHOTEEWHO
I'm getting ready to do a test like this, with the exact same rifle. I'm going to compare Hornady 139 gr vs PPU 140 gr 7mm-08. Obviously the Hornady being more expensive
My remington 700 in 30-06 loves the nosler 125gr ballistic tip less than a 1/4 inch at 100
Long before the Ruger American came out I owned a M77 stainless in .308. I couldn't get it to shoot 3 shot groups OVER 1.5 inches. Ammo it liked went under an inch. I drilled a mulie with it at about 100 yards using the good old core lot 150 grainers. He dropped like he got hit by lightning!
I have some of that nosler ballistic tip in 6.5 cm never tried it out yet
I thank you for the video. I do not have a 7mm-08 but it looks like it packs a punch. I do have 2 .308 rifles and they both like 145-150 gr. The Ruger American likes the PMC 147 best. Of everything i have tried so far.
Hey dragonrider
Another great round ... Cheers
There's more to a hunting bullet than just grouping...
True. But a big factor in which to use
You had me at ballistic tip
139 or 140 grain bullets have been good in the two 7mm08 rifles I have shot. Remington Core lokt have always worked well in any rifle I have tried them in of any caliber.
I bought that nosler ammo at cabelas for 6.5 prc and it's cheaper than any hornady right at $50 only one cheaper is norma whitail
This proves that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. But it put a bee in my bonnet. I know that barrel temp makes groups open up, but how much? If you could get an IR thermometer and take barrel temperature readings between shots and see how much difference there is between a hot vs cold barrel that might make for an interesting video. 🤔
that's a good idea! with the callipers and an ir gun wtw gonna be the appliance of science! 😀
Kind of seems like apples to oranges on this one. If we're acting on the assumption that your rifle prefers 140s, then is the poor grouping with the noslers saying anything about nosler? They definitely offer 140-150gr loadings for the 7-08, whos to say a 140gr nosler wouldn't have beat out the core-lokt by 1/4 or even a half minute? We'll never know
Had some Winchester do that in my 270 M77
You taking that deer was either the first or second video of yours I saw. That was before I even knew who u were. I was looking up video on the 7mm-08 the 243 and 270. I watched that video and you shoot steel comparison between 243 and 270. I didn't even know that was you till later after I subscribed and you posted a short of them two in a previous video.
Appreciate you watching Brandon!
Was that the OK Corral range?
That's why I like handloading. I can take just about any weight bullet and make it shoot good. You just have to find the proper powder and velocity for your particular rifle.. My main deer load uses a 150gr. Nosler ballistic Tip. Sub MOA groups every time. When you only shoot factory you can't control the components.