7mm-08 Ultimate Ammo Test - 100 yard groups
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Dropped 2 deer at 120 yards with the hornady 139 gr sst. They didn't take a step. Ruger American go wild 7mm-08. Love it
Awesome
Nice ! I have the .308 version .
Sst s the juntion special even bad hits get them need to find in 120s the trick w Hornady there set back like Barnes .50 2.750 oal rem core locks I set like speer s 2.775 all boattail like the jump fusions are b t rem c l not there flat base ruger might like 2.800 or longer interesting 🤨
Find Sierra pro hunters 120/140 those should work best average wise
7mm-08 does anything the old 7x57 Mauser ever did. And that old 7x57 was an absolute gem. When used in a modern rifle with modern handloads the 7x57 could really walk the dog. The 7mm-08 has been walking the dog in factory form since Remington put it out the door.
Yes one of Remingtons success much like .223 they screwed up on the 260 all they had to do is get the ammo out first then the cartridge Winchester always had ammo first then the gun .270/.308 .243 06 300 w m Remington the 7 mm mag 7x08 and the 223
And get the twist right on the first .260 s know it’s all about the needmore
Remington Core Lokt's are hard too beat, I've used them for years. The availability is usually pretty good and they're not over priced. The yellow and green box is unmistakable
I am a corelokt fan
Those Norma Whitetails in my experience are like a core lokt 2.0. I’ve probably shot my best groups with the whitetails, in a couple different rifles. One a Ruger American compact 6.5 creedmoor, the other an older CZ 243. I have some 308 still to test and anticipate similar results. Not my preferred hunting ammo though. I’d rather shoot something with 1.5” groups with a preferred bullet for hunting, like the TTSXs, TSX, or GMX. Sometimes a rifle really doesn’t like copper bullets though, like an AR I’ve tried. 2-4” groups with all weights of copper I tested. Same rifle shoots 70+ grain match bullets well below an inch.
Love corelok but after the bankruptcy seems their quality control has gone down drastically cause I can’t seem to find a good box of them anymore just shooting sparaticly
7mm-08 is definitely one of the most underrated boolot calibers out there. When I was just getting going in the hunting game 50 ish years ago (yikes) it was considered by most manly men to be just a light recoiling LADIES gun, but times have changed, projectiles have improved immensely now it’s definitely a solid intermediate slinger.
I love it, and I definitely wouldn’t hesitate to hunt moose or elk with one.
Another great video Adam
Thanks
Don't you just love how those writers painted the 7mm-08 Remington into the corner! A lot of people still to this day say it's a good choice for women and children! I say.. it's probably the best deer cartridge to come down the pipe in my lifetime :)
Also find it strange that those same writers don't say the same thing about the 243 Winchester and the 6.5 Creedmoor.
I only have an ar10 in 308 for "availibility" but I would prefer a 7mmo8
Hard to beat the Remington core lock. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching Dwayne
I would not call any of them "garbage" as they all were within minute of man melon and well within a deer's chest/shoulder area.
That said, one wants the least variance to increase the fudge factor, so your 2 bests should be your first choice.
Another fun video.👍👍
Fair enough. Just more fun when they group well
@@WHOTEEWHO oh yeah!
i’ve been loving the 7mm-08 ever since i bought a 7mm08 AR-10 barrel from Wilson Combat recently. I almost hesitate to say this heresy but oh well, I find myself liking shooting the 7mm08 better than my 308. This barrel is also more accurate than my 308. Awesome content as usual!
I love my left-handed Remington 700 in 7mm-08!!! She loves the Remington Core-Lokt 140s. The 7mm-08 is an underrated cartridge, but it is amazing!!!
7-08 is a great cartridge. Wasn’t available when I bought my 7x57 in 73’. I did a massive amount of hand loading and bench work late 73’ and much of 74’. Tried lots of bullets and powders from W780, I4350, to Norma 205 and bullets from 120 to 175g. I shot five round groups and if you graphed out the group sizes it would look like an hour glass. Big groups at 120 and 175 and small groups at 140-150 gr. Best powder was IMR 4350 along with Speer 145 gr BTSP bullets. Shot 1.75” @ 300 yards in stiff wind. Disclaimer time the rifle ( Ruger 77 7x57) had been modded like present day swat rifles as I shot a heavy 6mm Shilen barrel a lot) Lee Six Beavertail glass stock and CanJar Set trigger with 4x12 scope. When I put the skinny 7x57 barrel on it looked like there was 3/8” space from barrel to stock 😂. In 92’ I picked up a Rem 700 7x57 mountain rifle , seated my custom reloads back to factory specs paced off 100 yards and shot five shot group off the hood of my car < 1”. Never messed with that rifle except put it in a Lee Six Glass stock and put the 4x12 scope on it. The 6mm/244 rem had a 6x18 and not a stalking rifle. If the 7-08 had been on a rack in 73’ I’d be shooting that. One shot one kill only thing that didn’t stop in it tracks has a big hog and it ran in three tight circles and fell over dead. Shot that with factory Normal 150’s as I didn’t have anything loaded for the hunt. It was a last minute deal and the 150’s was all the store had this was back in 82’. Those Norma rounds were almost as accurate as my hand loads and printed on paper where my loads did. Nice video. Thanks for sharing
I absolutely love the 7mm-08. The Hornady Superformance 139 gr. GMX shoots great in my Remington, Browning, and Christensen rifles. Bang/flop on Whitetails.
Been using that cal. For years. Got a first year Model 7 rem with an 18in barrel. When that round hits it comes out 3 inches wide. Devastating round on deer. I stopped using a ballistic tip as it did too much damage if you hit the shoulder blade. But through the ribs, perfect. I went to the SP bullet and stayed there with the 140gn.
I have the very same ruger 7mm-08 with a bushnell scope.. my fav hunting rifle.. I use rem core lok most of the time.. but I've shot most of those rounds .. great gun!
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I've gone to 120 grain nosler b tip with mine. I'm loading the rounds of course but major improvement over any factory round I tried and flat fast and major deer droppers.
Saw my brother shoot 2 deer with a 7mm-08 both dropped instantly. The 280 I used had the same effect but more recoil.
Nice 🦌🦌
Try the Hornady Custom Lite 120’s. I’ve had pretty good results with those as well.
My brother has a Tc 7mm08and he loves it and I can't wait to start my Ruger American collection and you Mr who tee who are the reason I even gave the Ruger American any thoughts on buying thank you sir for your time and effort to make these videos 👍👍
7mm-08 handloads should be a future video.
I just purchased another Christensen arms traverse chambered in 7mm/08. I'm putting scope on right now. I went with the Leopold 4×15×44 . taking it to the range in the morning.
Nice!!!
I like the 150 for hunting anyway.. was proud to see that group
My sons remington shoots those sst’s and gmx’s under an inch so haven’t really tried anything else.
The SST’s worked well on mule deer
My Sauer 100 likes the Hornady whitetail 139 but soon as this Texas heat throttles down have several other brands I want to try as the is rifle used for deer and hogs on military installation. See what the rifle loves and promises good expansion and weight retention some hogs run well over 115 pounds dressed out.
My Savage 11 with 20" barrel shoots 1/2' groups with the7mm-08 139 gr Hornady American whitetail. Very similar bullet construction to the Core Lok.
Thanks wtw 👍👍
Thanks for watching Lance
I own a Sako 85 Laminated Stainless in 7mm08. I prefer 150g projectiles as well. They work well with around 45g of AR2209 (H4350) pushing them.
Great video! I have a 243 in the Ruger compact, noticed the jump when you fired each round and mine used to do the same I filled the fore stock and the butt with a little lead and 2 part epoxy made it a little heavier and stiffened the twist out of it a whole lot more stability the rifle shoots really nice now. I also have a Tikka T3X 7mm-08 load my own 139Gr SST they group under an inch 9 inch twist Thanks for the video
I think the hornady SSTs have the best ballistic coefficient of these rounds. In case anyone is wondering I may be wrong but I know I use 139 grain SSTs for their ballistic coefficient in my 7mm magnum and it should be the same bullet
Haven’t seen that many total boxes of 7mm-08 in one place in 2 years.
Same. Been hard to find
I'm a 7mmO8 fan boy and you guys just haven't been to my house, yet. I've got 11 boxes RTG and another 200 rounds at the reloading table
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Thanks for watching!
Great ammo comparison... Thanks WTW
Thanks for watching Pete
Just watched this recently. Very happy to see a 7mm-08 ammo test.
You got a new subscriber.
Thanks for watching!
I use the Remington 140 grain. I find they work the best out of my Remington 7mm-08. Federal didn't group good
Remington man Through, and through,
I shoot a 760 and 7600’s and Remington always shoot CoreLokt the best!
Yup I use it for my Remington 260 also and they are better if the gun is a Remington.
Enjoyed the video as always love 7 mm 08 great little round taken my best buck with one
Looking forward to seeing this one! Haven't tried a couple of these so curious to see how they do.
Let's see a 308 test i don't know how good they are for deer hunting...
My rifle loves the hornady whitetail softpoints and remingtons. But it really loves PPU softpoints…all 140 grn
I need to try those too
All those groups would be suitable for deer, as they all fit well into the 'kill zone' of a deer. More than likely the lightest bullets will give the least felt recoil if that is a consideration. i suspect all those rounds are suitable for deer in terminal performance.
Were I a bit younger and didn't already have a (several, actually) hunting rifle, I would likely choose the 7mm-08. It is the 'spiritual' child of the 7x57mm Mauser, but uses a shorter action and is suitable for higher pressure loads.
Of note, the 7x57mm Mauser in original form used a bullet between 170 and 175 grains. That seems currently in the 7mm-08 to be a hand loaded proposition, but worked well at lower velocities.
On that note, I am not sure the twist rate of the barrel is fast enough to stabilize the heavier bullet. Gotta go fast, you know.
One must also note that every rifle (barrel and bedding) is fairly unique and one man's test is not a universal truth. On the other hand, it is a place to start.
Great job on this video review! I don’t currently own a 7mm08, but love this short action cartridge! Maybe it’s time to sell my .375 H & H, get this dream cartridge! You did a great job on honestly evaluating this various makers!!
Thanks for watching
Another fine caliber for deer hunters to choose from. Plenty of knock down with not to bad of recoil. Thanks again WTW for sharing great things for the BING BANG COMMUNITY. 💪🏽💪🏽💯👍
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I'd really like to see more 25-06, good video, I was glad to see some Nosler ammo!
More 2506 soon
The 139 sst was one of the most consistant and accurate PROJECTILE in my handload research with 7-08, 280ai,7mm rem mag. Its performance in a tc 708 pistol was great. The superformance offering was great as factory ammo too( very very subjective)
Doc, I'd love to hear more about your experiences and loads with that 7-08 Encore pistol barrel. It's 15 inches, correct?
Might be we use sst called the juntion special but the contricity on them suck the eld and eldx are much better but still not match of Sierra s the pro hunter is a one hole bullet I bet that game changer shoots much like noslers
Off a wobbly rest I bag the front squeeze the rear bulls bag the barrel Helps
That's all I have used since the early 80s is Rem 140s pure slayer.
I shot many times and used 4 kinds of ammo..fed, norma and hornady..140 seemed the best size grain..even the 140 hornady reloading bullets soft point..never failed me with 1 to 1.3 inch diff at 100 yards..so i stay with what works..
If you haven't tried them yet, Hornady makes a 120gr lite recoil and shoots soft out of a Savage Axis, the 139gr GMX rounds on the other hand kicks like a mule out of the same gun. Just getting back into the sport so still working on consistent groupings though. 😂
Yeah my ruger American loves the norma white tail 3 in the same whole
I sighted mine in with Hornady Lite and Norma Whitetail (all that I could find at the time). Both were sub 1" @ 120 yds.
The only stuff I can find is the 150gr hornady eld-x. Which is fine, cause I can drop a whole box into about an inch and a half without slowing down.
I hand load Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr and 140gr in my Remington Model 7. Both loads will group just under an inch consistently. But I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn using Nosler Partitions of the same weight.🤷♀️
I hunt with either a 30-06 180gr or a original 45-70 with 60 grn BP Goax with a card and a hollow point paper patched 405 grn bullet. At 100 yards slow fire it gives me about 1.5 inch group
I might buy a Ruger American in 7mm--08 after this video
Hey. WTW. Love your channel. Had a Remington model 7 short action lightweight rifle in 7mm-08. It shot well, was light, and short. I never got a chance to take any game with it before I sold it. I think it's a very capable cartridge. I know Remington also had the 260 Remington which was just the 6.5 in the same case as the 7 mm 08. I tried a Ruger ultralight rifle in that caliber but it didn't enthuse me any. I went back to using my 308 mohawk 600 Remington and have never looked back. I like the 7.62x39 for deer too. I've taken 3 deer with Russian 123 gr. wolf hollow points. It's a very capable round. I've use sks and ak-47 rifles to hunt with in that caliber. Thanks for the video.
Appreciate you watching! I need to take a deer with the 7.62x39
I got a weatherby vanguard in 7mm08. The reason I bought it was it had a 24 inch barrel and the cartridge uses slow burning powders. I’m using Winchester StaBall 6.5 with a 120 Barnes ttsx and getting over 3200fps. It is a hammer. Also loading 150 nosler bt and getting 2910 fps and 165 Sierra game changers at 2800 fps
Wow those are impressive loads! Sounds like good stuff!
@@jessetherrien7851 those are just book loads. That powder turned that gun into a different rifle.
Impressive velocities.
Any 120 or sst works around 2800 same w the 6.5 if it prints it goes hunting rem core s and speer gs imr 4350 45.0 rl 17 46/47 nice tight groups
You really need to get a EC tuner. I have three now with plans to get two more. Insane how good they work. Well worth the money.
Have one
Some really good. Some good and some not good. Appreciate it. Great deer & even elk offering.
That butterfly was cold blooded. Didn’t even flinch
Ruger 7mm-08 American has a fast twist and makes me wonder how well it would do with heavier bullets. Glad I stocked up on the Norma Whitetail when the local farm supply chain had cases of them
Not much on Remington brass But for a go too That Norma whitetail probably w vititouri powder great brass Federal too hot. Always great primers no Winchester power points w 748/w760 ? Remington imr powder being a Du pont co 4064 Covers all bullet wieght well varget s the same but temp stable
My Savage loves those Core Lokt bullets, too.
@4:39 I already know I'm gonna like this video. AND...you are doing 7 different loads...love it!
I’ve taken several coyotes, whitetail, mule deer, & elk with my 7mm-08 using 140gr Nosler e-tips.
Awesome
Fyi for those's that don't know. NORMA actually makes weatherby ammo if you shoot any weatherby ammo. Norma knows thier stuff
Pretty sure that is not true
Cool video thanks.
Thanks for watching
I will be picking up a Ruger go wild in 7mm08 tomorrow my second 7mm08.
It would be great if you also used the Cono-graph
There are so many variables and some rifles just do not like certain loads. Its a case of finding the one that it does like. But the 7mm bullet BC is so good, it would be hard to find a load that didn't work well. And of course as you work through the different loads, unless you let the barrel cool down to cold each time, you will get variability.
I think Hornady dropped the ball on those loadings. Also, I know the Federals did really good on the last video!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Matches my experience as well. Nothing shoots as well as CoreLoks and Norma through my rifles in just about any caliber. When ammo first started becoming a little more available after covid, Norma Shooting was one of the firsts to start getting fairly reasonable priced ammo out there from the Georgia plant. I snatched up a bunch on 308 whitetail for $18 and 6.5x55 partitions for $21 and free shipping. I later found out the partitions were a close out, and now I kick myself all the time for not having broke the piggy bank and bought more. That stuff shoots lights out into clover leafs. Now their prices came way up, so not sure if they were trying to snatch some market share at the time, but it was a great deal on great ammo.
I was just at the range yesterday with my Tikka T3X model Hunter 7mm-08 .
Hornady American Whitetail 139 grain was grouping 2.75” . Unacceptable !
Going to try the Hornady Precision Hunter 150 grain ELDX .
But I think I’m going to try some of the Norma 150’s as well . I just didn’t care much for the relatively low BC and low energies out beyond 200 yards on those flat nosed projectiles but if they’re grouping under an inch it’s all good . I know there are better options but for the cost 💲 I think the Norma is a good choice
Guys please like this video, lots of effort gone into this.
🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching
Just got a weatherby vanguard in 7mm-08. Was hitting steal at 500yards no problem. Love it.
Very nice
I have no interest in owning a 7mm-08 chambered rifle but I'll still sit and watch a 17 minute WTW video about it LOL
If you hunt deer or deer sized animals I bet you would be surprised with how well it does. It's a somewhat under the radar caliber.
Thanks so much Kevin! Appreciate you watching!
@@jessetherrien7851 Oh I don't doubt it's effectiveness, my current cashflow situation demands I'm happy with what I have!
Well I have owned five rifles in 7mm-08 and a model 700 shot the best. Used hornady 120gr. HP. They put lights out on whitetail deer. Always come back to 08 for a good reason it just works. Light bullets at 3000fps is Awesome.
I am starting to hand load a few test rounds for my 7mm08. I have test fired a few H 87 grain in my .243 and found my spots at 100 Yards.
My .223 is shooting a 0.750 group at 100.
I would like to see a comparison of the 260 rem v 243win. C Martin thanks
And I love 7-08 by the way. Great cartridge
Love the 7mm-08 for deer. Have two of them, and typically grab my Kimber Montana when the weather is bad.
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I have a ruger american 7mm08 and it absolutely hates the Hornaday superformance ammo. I ended up making up a load for it with the hornady 139gn sst. This load took it from 3" with the 139 gn sst superformance to 0.675 with my hand load with the same bullet.
That gets a double good one!
3006 is my favorite I've got 2. ones a Springfield 1903 in mint condition ..wall hanger and a tika t3x fluted barrel and it loves 168 grn boat tail. I hand load it
My Weatherby likes the fist and last (120& 150grn) haven't found anything in between yet but ironically it'll shoot 120 and 150 under 0.5 inch
308 parent case
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Love this cartridge! Good video Adam.
Thanks for watching!
Wish you would have put the Hornady Whitetails in the test. I shoot a Browning A-Bolt and they are very tight. I think the Superformance are more interested in creating more speed, and they sacrificed the groupings a little cause mine does the same thing with them.
Try the nosler accubonds
My 7mm-08 loves Precision Hunter 150s and Nosler 140s. 139 SST not good in my 7mm-08. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching Steven
I just shot some Norma Whitetail in my 270 this morning and they were pretty dang good. They are making some good affordable ammo.
Love this caliber
This is going to be a fun video! Great round, thinking of buying one for myself since I already have a 7mm rem mag. Would be a good match for reloading when i dont want to use the 7mm!
Thanks for watching Tom
@@WHOTEEWHO I try to watch all your video's, you put a smile on my face each time! Sorry, I wont buy core-locket ammo, i reload my own!
Believe it or not. My Savage Axis likes the Hornady American Whitetail 139 grain
I like 7mm and the ballistic tips are a really mean boolot
Whatever happened to the 7 mm Mauser? It set the standard for the .28 caliber. There are those that will stick with the 175s, but the prevailing winds, indicate 140s, or so.
It is all you'll need, for practically everything on the planet, using the proper bullet. Speed is for those that think they need it.
Proper rifle, proper bullet .
It WILL take care of ALL your needs.
My favorite bullet 7mm08
It is a good one
Check the action screws. If the rifle has bedding blocks torque that bolt 1st and snug the other bolts but not enough to flex or bend the receiver.
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I’m on my second 7-08, can’t say enough good things about this cartridge.
Currently I’m reloading 139 grain Barnes LRX’s to 2780 fps.
Deer right on up to moose, no problem, every shot has been a pass through, even with the moose.
How does the recoil feel compared to 30-06?
I have a Browning A-Bolt with the BOSS system on it. I have it tuned for the Hornady Superperformace 139 grain SST and it shoots 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards.
I use Remington & 140g & 150g corelock in my deer guns 6.5 and Rem 270!!!!
Hornaday Whitetail 139 grain does best in my Ruger American
I need to try some
Yeah those were pretty much the results that I expected to see. For some reason, I have never been able to pull good grouping performance out of the GMX or the Fusions in any of the guns I have shot them in, so seeing that your gun didn't like them either just helps confirm my struggles with those loadings as well
Lots of people saying same about gmx
I love the 7mm-08!
Me too
Accu tips work best in my model 700
Just ordered some 7mm-08 ammo for my son today. Great video!
Awesome