DON'T MAKE THESE MISTAKES! - Watches I regret buying and selling - Rolex and Omega
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2018
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Hi Guys,
I thought I'd make a video on some of the poor decisions that I've made around buying watches. It just so happens these are Omega and Rolex.
- Rolex Submariner (No Date) 5513
- Rolex Explorer II 16570
- Omega Speedmaster Reduced
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How does "nearly getting mugged" work? Where did it happen? I'm a London Rolex wearer, too.
Bark and Jack I love your watches review far far better than Archie luxury you tell the truth and Honest opinion where as Archie luxury has lost all Credibility so please keep up the fab work 👍👍
Hi. Just found your channel
My regret is When I’ve bought a piece I can’t sell it on !! They are all keepers. It’s mad !!
I buy for me From the heart. Cheers
PJ
My biggest regret in life: getting into watches.
My biggest joy in life: getting into watches.
Watch guys will know what I'm talking about :)
Well said!
haha, nicely put.
Agreed...
haha !
absolutely man haha!!
My biggest regret was selling my late Fathers Datejust, at the time I was between jobs and I needed the money to help pay the mortgage on my house. I know that my decision was the right one at the time but it still hurts when I think about it. Long story short, I landed a great job working for Rolls-Royce and will be purchasing a Datejust to replace the one I sold. I know it’s not the actual watch, but it will be a homage to it.
michael johnson
You gotta do what you gotta do.
All that matters is that you think of your Dad every time you look at the watch.. and dont forget to smile.
You have just created your own heirloom, enjoy it and one (hopefully far) day you will pass it on!
It's never too late to track down the watch you sold. I've been in a similar position, and I did exactly that. Located the watch and paid more than marked for it, but I got it back.
I would try and track it down and rebuy it
That's funny I got a datejust from my father too, although I didn't receive it from his passing it still means a great deal to me and I don't think anything could ever push me to sell it. My advice would be attempt to track it down, if you sold it through ebay its very easy to track down the purchaser. All the best!
The Explorer II is different, and I think the white dial is what got you those compliments!
Best, IC
I think you're right. It did stand out in its own way.
Honesty is what I like most from your videos. It's really appreciated. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much Ferran. Glad you liked it. Cheers, Adrian.
I got a bone to pick with you... I went out and bought the Oris 65 Bronze bezel. If the wife ever finds out, I'm blaming you.
Although I've had it on my wrist for nearly a week now and she's not noticed. 😅
Hahaha. Good work. If she asks, you’ve always had this one!
And me..... That Adrian bloke has a lot to answer for. Unfortunately for me my wife DID notice😳
@@cornishwebbs Well I'm not sure if she's pretending to not notice to use it against me at a convenient time or she's cares so little about watches, they all look the same to her.
Nice name btw, Cornish lad myself. That pic of mine is Rame Head 👍
hockingham - lovely part of the world! Falmouth for us but alas not now. Loving the Oris tho!
hockingham your lucky my wife notices every thing 🤣👌
Love how you keep looking over your shoulder to ensure your wife is not listening lol... at the end of the day she’s watching the video and finding out lol!!
Haha, I guess that's a common theme with us obsessed with watches...keeping those watch secrets! Sometimes it feels like I'm cheating.
Thanks God im not the only one with that feeling
Good stuff, as usual... it's refreshing to know that others have had similar experiences... to commiserate, haha!.. If you enjoy collecting watches, then you likely either already had or will have that regretful purchase or selling of a watch. Unfortunately, it's often just part of the process... Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Very true and relatable story . My experiences with guitars as well but when you love them nothing else matters. Now I feel as if, with watches anyway, I feel like I’m getting the pieces I’ve always wanted, finally at the tender age of 58! Yep you have to wait that long before we’re all mature enough to make the right decisions on watches or anything.
hey man just wanted to say i've seen a few of your videos and they were really great, you seem like the everyday watch collector we can all relate to, someone who buys what he likes and genuinely enjoys wearing and talking about watches. keep it up!
Thanks so much buddy. I’m really glad I come across that way. That’s exactly what I am. Thanks for watching. 🍻
I need an 'every day watch', that is the excuse to buy an other watch. And after 20 years and 15 watches, i still own, I'm still looking.
Nice job mate, keep it up. Always enjoy your content.
Thanks so much Luke, cheers for popping by.
Honest and great 👍🏻 Vid Adrian! Keep up the great work!👌🏻
Best,
Hisham.
I just bought a Hamilton Kakhi Field automatic 38mm as my "everyday watch"
That's a nice watch, what bracelet/strap are you rocking it with?
Love your channel Adrian! This particular video was a bit funny for me cuz i was considering to sell my 16570/3186 to get an Explorer 1/39mm, but i wasn't sure with the idea cuz i love it and got it cheap and full set. A friend of mine made me a good offer today, and a couple of minutes later your video appeared. Guess money can't buy love. Keep up the awesome job!
My biggest regret is selling my Omega AT8500 "Skyfall" ... Owned it for about a year and just got caught up in this crazy hobby of buying/selling/trading. I absolutely loved that watch and compared to Omega's lineup today, it's a stunner. My wife even says I'm stupid for ever selling that watch ... You rarely see them pop up on forums for sale (at least around me).
Wish I just would have kept it in a safe because I think it will be looked at as a gem later down the road, especially since it was produced for a limited time - that is vertical teak dial, frame window, etc.
I really like your channel Adrian! Well done!
A relatively new fan (~ 2 months now)
First video I've watched (terrible pun unintended) and I'm very impressed. Subscribed. Keep up the solid content.
Another great vid, Adrian. Great hearing about the watch journey - every piece has a story. Ever interested in a Rolex DJ?
I really really like your channel. Subbed yesterday or day before . Binge watched all you content !
Now I’m saving up for an OP 39!! (over the explorer 39 perhaps)😅
Though my favourite in their lineup will forever be my DJ 41 blue dial (2017-2018)
Thanks so much Arman. The OP39 is a great choice.
Great choice! OP 39mm Black Dial or White Dial. Need to go to an AD and look at the white dial version. Or check out the GS Snowflake ❄️
The X100, also built like a good watch! Cracking camera. Great channel, keep up the good work. Regards Gary.
I’m looking for a 5513 too! It’s now prohibitively expensive now. You could have made very handsome profit should you have kept it.
Explorer II is still the grail for me at the moment. Epitome of adventure watch. Although the Explorer doesn’t come far behind, like you said the every day wearability just can’t be matched.
Yeah I really do believe the 16570 Explorer II was the final tool watch that rolex made.
I sent you another email, drop me your postal address and I'll get that watch to you.
Bark and Jack Might keep mentioning it to the other half, 30th’s coming up, wonder if that’ll swing her 😂. Emailed you back yesterday bud, cheers.
Amazing video again. Amazing content keep it up 🙌🏽❤
Thanks so much Kristof.
Great video. Love that Omega you're wearing. It sucks wearing a watch you think you'll eventually sell(like your Explorer 2) bc you tend to baby it or not wear it when it could possibly get beat up.
Hahaha I love how you explain your channel “I talk watches and drink coffee” 😂😂😂😂😂
The story of a watch addict ! Sounds like myself lol 😂 I’ve bought and sold so many I’ve lost count I think apart of my soul went with every watch I’ve sold👍
My biggest regret is not getting into watches 10 years ago when I had enough of a windfall to get a Rolex or similarly priced watch.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
I bought my year 2000/2001 14060 Submariner some time ago. It’s one of the very last produced before Rolex upgraded it to the 14060M. I recommend this particular model no-date two-liner Sub to anyone looking for the perfect mix of new and old Submariner. After 17 years and no service it runs within one second. Amazing.
I bang it around and I enjoy every single “battle scar” it get’s. It’s the perfect “every occasion” watch and it’s tough as nails. A Sub isn’t meant to be pampered like it’s a £40.000 Patek Philippe. They are tough watches and they look better for every scratch.
Now if I scratch my GMT Master 16700 from 1991 I’m in a bad mood for a week.
Thanks for a very nice channels and a good regrets-video.
Best regards from Denmark.
Same goes hear. I bought mine in 2000 and its been great all though mine is about +4. worn daily still love it to this day.
I regret giving my 1986 Rolex GMT Pepsi to my wife who apparently sold it for $2700 and now that watch is crazy valuable.
This was a reminder of my past regrets which I'm sure everybody has had at some point in time. I sold my Rolex GMT, Rolex Submariner(cyclops date window) and my Omega Moonwatch. I've been enjoying my Seikos and Hamilton Khaki King and can live without a Rolex but I hope to get the Moonwatch again and feel this one's a keeper for its historical significance.
Can you make a video about how you were nearly mugged ?
Haha, funnily one of Archie's old videos pushed me over the edge and made me pull the trigger on the polar explorer.
I can relate! Years ago I used to flip Omegas in and out all the time, I’d buy Seamasters and Speedmasters, wear them a while, fancy something else, flip them and move on to the next watch. I found a great Speedy Pro on the famous auction site with moments left on the auction, it was a great price and I made a snap decision to buy it and did. Like you, I won the auction with miles to spare. When the watch arrived it was a Speedy reduced and I was absolutely deflated. I flipped it the following week, thankfully only losing a few quid and resolved to do nothing in haste on eBay again!
No regrets because my rule is no outgoing. Each one tells a story of a different part of my life. I love them all equally.
Love my Explorer 2. It's a 2009 Polar with the engraved Rehaut and 3186 movement which I purchased back in 2014 after searching long and hard for a BNOS example. Interestingly no one has ever noticed it or commented on it in the 4 years I have owned the watch other than a chap in a jewellery shop. Certainly no ladies when I have been buying coffee 😁. Maybe I need to find a new coffee shop!
"They go for over 4k now". 3 years later... They go for well over 9K. Damn the Explorer II.
your Seamaster is my favourite watch of yours. it's absolutely beautiful. Currently hunting around for my own.
My biggest watch regret and this may get me in trouble is the Black Bay Fifty Eight. I waited so many months on a waitlist and when it finally came round all love was somewhat lost. I am also a university student with a bit more of a sporty vibe and I think it was a little too vintage to fit in with my everyday look.
My biggest love is the black submariner w/date, I got really lucky and was only on a waitlist for about 4 weeks and literally just got it "today" and I can't see myself with anything better!
sub with a date!
I can relate. Been umming and arring about a 14060 for about 4 years, always thinking they are too pricey, but then constantly seeing them go up and feeling like i've missed the boat. Been seriously considering an Explorer 2 polar like yours for the same reasons really. I feel like the longer i wait, the more expensive it gets......
Every ROLEX I've ever sold .. I've regretted
so true.
eric lee I agree especially my vintage root beer gmt
Get an Omega Seamaster 300M Blue dial Bond(Brosnan)
Hello Adrian
Great channel!
Regretted selling my Rolex Daytona”s 116520, always felt a little small for me on a 8” wrist but an iconic watch and now silly selling prices. Currently wearing a OMEGA speedmaster DSOTM for everyday watch. And ROLEX Sea dweller JC for occasional wearer.
Keep up the good work
Regards Adrian
Good story. For myself, I can say I've been there, but the outcome was different. Meaning I've sold watches I've really enjoyed in the past, and fairly recently through the past year I've bought back a number of them. But, in the end, I ended up selling again and REALLY said I'm done with that (or those) particular watch(es).
To avoid buying regrets and selling ones, one must honestly think to himself if it's really something you want or an impulse buy. BUT, a lot of times you have to buy the watch in person and on the wrist to honestly guage whether it really is something you REALLY like AND will keep or not. And, sometimes the watch you didn't think would make as much of an impact ends up being something that you might end up really liking.
I love Fujifilm. Had an X100 before myself. I would get another in the latest X100F, But, I already have an X-Pro2 and I prefer the ability to change lenses with that rangefinder style of digital camera. So many nice lenses from Fuji, too. But, I have sold all buy one Fujinon lens and the rest are either adapted vintage or modern relatively inexpensive manual lenses from China. Don't know them. They make surprisingly great glass for very affordable prices. Not optically pure, but so much of what makes a good photo rarely relies on pixel perfect sharpness and rendition.
Enjoyed the video, thank you. I am on the fence between the Explorer and the new OP you reviewed earlier this week. My criteria for an understated watch is similar to yours. If that 39 mm OP in black would have been available at the same time as you got your Explorer, would you still have gotten the Explorer? Thank you!
I hear you buddy. I´ve had quite alot of regrets (selling two 5513 and a couple of other vintage pieces) But now I´m a proud owner of a 1973 RED MKVI 1680 factory original.
I bought a 2 tone Datejust back in the 80s. Had it for about 10 years but had to sell it for financial reasons. Always regretted selling it. Fast forward February 2019. I just bought a 2 tone Rolex Datejust. Now I've come full circle and content.
Great video! The more I watch your channel, the more I enjoy it. You're not old though ;)
Haha, thanks buddy.
Haha enjoyed the story on the confusion during bidding on two watches at once
haha, I felt terrible when I realised what I'd done.
Small comment to boost the youtube algorythm 😀 ! Great vid man ! Cheers !
Haha. Thanks so much. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Never sold one of my watches [given a couple away ]so no regrets on that front .I bought a couple of frankenwatches when first started out but were inexpensive and taught me a valuable lesson ,
Another great video!
Nice history Adrian, the watches you let go brought you to your current collection. Which is a great one.
I sold once my Breitling SOH I and got myself the avenger. I love the avenger Chrono but with the SOH II I think I one day like to get that one Back. Got lots of compliments for the SOH I ...
Why you getting a Fuji camera again? Maybe you check out a 80 D which is great for Fotos and videos, might suit your purpose well.
But you can take with the Fuji real food Fotos that’s true. The g7x MII is great for vids but not too great for Fotos, right?
Cheers, Konstantin
Awesome video...thanks. Curious, without of course the obvious that it isn't a moon watch, what did you not like about the Speedy Auto?
I bought my first real watch two days ago… and I’m already second guessing it. I bought an Air King but I’m really falling for the explorer 2, or maybe the explorer (1) because of the lume and how under the radar they are… so yeah, I can fully understand where you’re coming from haha!
Lol I went through the same thing. I bought datejust 36 mm 1987 (wanted a watch older than me) then it’s not a everyday watch and really wanted a no date sub. Now trying to sell the datejust to buy explorer or a submariner. Cheers new subscriber.
Great vid!
Im a Nikon Shooter, but always loved Fuji, PROPER cameras =P
As usual, an interesting, worthwhile video. Got to say though, you’re getting dangerously close to Frankie Howerd with the Barnet, mate.
The mistakes we make along the way in this hobby tell us about ourselves. My two Rolexes are now (and I hope, finally and forever!) a 2002 Explorer 2 16579 (polar) and a Submariner 5513 of 1987, a late one with acrylic crystal, a "holes" case and white gold dial markers.
Another great video 👍
Hi, Just come across your channel really enjoying it. I had to sell my my Non date submariner a few years ago to pay my mortgage.
But financially getting back on track now so looking to buy a vintage non date submariner 5513 Can't believe what there going for now they have really jumped up but I'm going to keep saving and hopefully be in the market for one buy the end of the year.
I will let you know how i get on !!
Cheers, Mike
I don't really have any regrets with any watches I have bought but many regrets with some I have let go of. GO senator chronometer, PP 5960, JLC reverso manual wind 8 day power reserve are 3 that I wish I still had, many I have traded because I needed cash, but some just bad decisions that I have to learn from. Still have a collection I am happy with, always a work in progress, agree with comment below that the watch addiction is great and frustrating at the same time. Really enjoy your videos.
Great video, weirdly I currently have a explorer 2 which I am selling as I am lusting after a 114060. fantastic watch but just not a sub
Rushing into getting my first “luxury” timepiece. I’m a young man and purchased a longines legend diver thinking I’d be satisfied because it was Swiss and I could afford it. Every review said this watch was too large for what it was and as a result it’s for sale and I have a Tudor black bay 36 on the way!
Relaxing voice. I subscribed.
Great video, just subscribed and plan on following you.
Thanks a lot Rafael, great name by the way, so good I gave it to my first son. 👍🏻
Nice video. Sold my polar white Swiss dial only and I miss it all the time. I used the money to get a Pepsi. I also have a 5513 and won’t sell that one. Cheers
Great video as always. Am interested to know how you sell your watches. Is it always ebay? If so, be great if you could do a video about selling on ebay for the first time. Thanks.
Bought my first Rolex last week. 1982 5513 sub. I love it! Think it was a great investment!
Watched several videos. Love them. I’m trying to buy my first Rolex going with the sub with date. If I can find them anywhere 🤦🏼♂️🙈
Sub’ed!!
Biggest regret was buying a Heuer Bund 1550sg non 3H dial at a auction. I really wanted the 3H dial version but I got outbid. I settled for the non 3H version. Should have been patient and held out for the watch I wanted. The kicker is that the watch I got was in need of a lot of service work, so in the end I ended up spending more money then if I just bought the Heuer Bund 3H dial version on Chrono24.
My only regret is not watch collecting sooner. Now I am retired the budget is not so large but I have time to work on my purchases. All good. Keep up the good work
Also true, my missus loves the polar 16570 and says if I had to keep one then that would be her choice.
This and Federico are my favourite watch channels... Adrian, what's the long term plan??
Thanks buddy. Short term plan = launch some awesome nato straps. Wait a couple of months to build capital. Medium plan = launch some incredible leather straps made in England. Long term plan = sell watches and deliver insanely good customer service.
Over arching vision = be an outlet of watch news, watch opinions, watch accessories and watches WITHOUT any pretentious BS.
The dream is to open a coffee shop / watch shop in London.
I’ve not shared that plan before.
Bark and Jack nice one man. With these videos you are building up the valuable commodity of trust and approachability. I would visit that shop! I wish you luck
raviayer Me too!! You should try this really neat guy called bear Clooney! He is great!
Oh where do I start - forget it, it's just too painful.
JUST KEEP EVERY ROLEX YOU BUY - THAT'S MY ADVICE
I also regret selling my 5513. Frankly, I flipped it for many of the same reasons you mentioned (except almost being mugged 😉).
Good watches and good books (Start With Why). Well done.
Thanks Rich. 🙌🏻
Had a 2018 no date sub,bought new.thought it would be my grail watch,was,completely underwhelmed by it,couldn't fall in love with the bigger squarer case of the maxi variety. It ended up annoying me so badly because I was babying it,worrying about scratches etc and didn't even love it.sold it 8 months later basically just got my money back.now when I see what they going for I do regret selling but honestly the experience of owning that watch was a complete letdown and I couldn't wait to get rid of it
Oh man, that Speedy story 😂. It’s a shame you got rid of the Explorer II, it’s pretty much the steel Rolex that I want the most.
one of my biggest regrets was around 1990 when i bought an explorer 2 brand new financed at a local jewelry store and i returned it maybe a week later because i was afraid of the payments on the $3300. :(
My biggest regret was buying the Omega Speedmaster Mid-Siize, I wanted a speedmaster and rushed out and bought the mid size when I wanted the full fat version. I did get one a week later in the James Bond 40th anniversary special edition and I still have both of them. I am now looking for a Bronze watch but I cannot make my mind up on which.
Hi Adrian. If you would have gotten the Speedy Pro instead of the Reduced would you still own it?
I think the only watch I’ve ever gotten compliments on was also the polar explorer. But like you, I found it somehow unsatisfying and I flipped it.
There's loads of ways a good watch can lose you money,
I have an explorer 2 like yours but with a horse shoe scratch at the 2 o'clock bezel position (unlike your slight mark at 14).
When it was two weeks old and immaculate, a police officer forced hand cuffs on me scratching the brushed bezel.
In the police station, I asked to make a statement about my "arrest" and the watch damage. The officer just laughed.
When I demanded to speak to the custody Sargent. He lost it and pushed me through fire doors and into the car park.
I still had my hands tied behind my back.
A WPC then took me back to Chester Train Station in her own personal car (no cuffs) and then got me a taxi to Rhyl (paid by train company).
Looking back on it, I should have taken it to professional standards for the sake of the officer who wasn't coping.
It was silly - I had ticket (contract) for journey home and train company said sleep in benches until the snow clears.
This happened in 2006 - should I keep that 2 o'clock horse shoe mark on the bezel or have it removed?
What strap do you have on the vintage Omega Seamaster? It looks great!
These r no mistakes, just personal evolutions. I traded Submariner fm 1975, GMT-Master Pepsi fm 1981. Of course, I regret. Wearing now the 40mm Explorer, no date, simple, no challenge to sell, regret lateron. If another Explorer Pole shows up, I grab it. For other occasions, I'm glad to wear a G-Shock, cheap, almost undestroyable, ugly becomes beauty, no headaches for whatever silly Rolex/Omega/IWC reasons. Cheers fm Singapore+
Rolex 16610, Sub no date. I bought it, became very self-conscious about it, disliked the Mercedes hands and the poor (loss of 90 seconds a week) time keeping and sold it.
Boy, are those things worth some money now!
Still, I wear an Oris Aquis for frontline policing, have my father’s Breitling Navitimer for high days and my grandfather’s JW Benson for every birth, death, marriage and everything in-between.
I love the 5513 but I dont know in my opinion the Explorer II is a watch that I always think about when I see your Videos. I think it would be super cool to own a Explorer and a Explorer II. You can rename the channel to Explorer & Jack then 😄
3:46 Amen to that. The black sub is so common. I had 5 friends that had black ones, and I on the other hand was happy wearing omega when around them. I'd rather get a black sea dweller, same but different.
I had to wait till I was 50 and Mortgage free before I bought my Rolex submariner had wanted one since seeing one as a young man it gives me a lot of pleasure it looks great in casual gear or dressed up but it stays at home when I travel overseas as I don't want to get mugged for it Mike
We all have regrets ... I sold my 1601 and did I ever regretted it ..I own a 1967 5513.. Love it !
Hi Adrian, enjoying the black nato on my planet ocean. Where do you sell your watches for best return?
Cheers
I have a 1965 "meters first" Sub 5513 with the early 1530 movement! I have inherited it from my grandfather. I would not change it for anything else in the world except for my grail watch which is a ref 6538 "Connery Bond Big Crown"
You crack me up mate especially about the lens adapter you bought hehe I would invite you to watch my video about less Rolex being more rolex. Quite thought provoking and I think you’d enjoy it as it’s just watch chat - there is a coffee there too but you can’t see it on screen :)
Orient ray 2
Amazing watch on paper but I didn't fall in love with it.. can't believe I choose it over the SKX. gonna get a SKX in a couple of months.. brilliant watch amazing value for money but I flipped in one month and lost 50€ ( it was my second watch)
My biggest regret was not buying the Rolex Explorer 2 from you.
Such a beautiful time piece.
How long ago did you sell that?
Awesome product! !!
I have a 5513 from the mid eighties, mint condition,thinking of trading for a yachtmaster,good move or not ?
You said you were looking for an everyday watch you could bash about. Me too!
I have an Alpinist which has fit that bill for a few years but looking to get hold of something a bit more special.
Would you say a black bay 36/41 would be every day bash about worthy? (I like to enjoy my watches and not baby them, and want to keep up that tradition even when I start spending a bit more)