It has come to my attention that there are 5 arrows on the 3rd shot in the 2nd combo, which means the second combo of 17 arrows (actually 19 with the 2 extra added) does: 709dmg (non-crit) to 997dmg (all crit). Dumb me didn't see it through the hours of editing, and I was simply just not standing close enough when getting that third hit off. So, IF YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH; 5 arrows will hit the monster. Meaning that you do more damage with the second combo than the first one (even over time), if you were to spam that into a monster. You also save more coatings this way. I apologize for my ignorance, but at least now you have the answer. The REAL answer.
You, sir, get a like. You're doing God's work by providing us with a very informative video with evidence based research. Please do keep doing more videos with similar format for other weapons. You'll be doing a great service to the hunter's community.
Thank you! All this time I was only using charged shots and the power shot that you can chain with it. I never thought to use the uncharged shot to build up that combo damage
An error, the third shot of the ORORO combo, which is the second spread shot, has 5 arrows instead of 3. Still amazing video though. I was wandering why I don't see any speed runners using the OORO combo now, despite it being the mathmatically optimal combo. So I re-exam this video, and I think that's why.
FINALY, I look at some other youtubers and they all have their own keybindings (on the pc) and go through it like a fucking tornadowind. You explained this part extremely understandable for me. Love it! I will do more damage then my friends now ^^
Dunno if anyone even noticed this, but the math for the damage at 7:16 is wrong. 525 (NC) x 4 (rotations) = 2,100 735 (AC) x 4 (rotations) = 2,950 Which is more than the 2nd combo. I don't read comments lol. And just about to start using Bow. Great video anyway!
If MHW would allow me to assign dash to L1 and power shots to R1... that'd be great. Those split seconds where you have to take your thumb off of the right stick, which causes you to momentarily stop aiming, to dash or power shot can make the difference between arrows landing or not landing.
Yep, got that. After a bit more practice: I *think* I was just being impatient or imagining things. I usually use R2 > R2 > R2 > O which isn't as damaging, but flows together really smoothly and threw off my timing for your combo.
Am I being silly or does combo 2 not work on the PC version? This part comes out alright: O > R2 > O But when I go into the second charged shot it's lost all it's charge. Is it somehow dependent on decorations? Ohhh, also. Could you do a budget build for bow or some of the other weapons? I'm in that zone where I've killed some tempered elder dragons, but haven't found most/any of the rare decorations
I wrote 4, but I meant 3. Apparently I blindly went with the same number as was on the top of the screen. It's NEARLY 4 though, just 1 attack from. Great catch, and thank you!
Yo, I was planning on making a video about "How To Get Good At Using the Bow" (and other weapons as well) and this info (and the entire video) is great! Mind if I mention it and use it as a source in said video (should I actually make it)?
Of course not! I'd give credit and just site you and your calculations for the best combos. Really informative video and with an easy to digest format, you've got a new sub :)
What about the standard O,R2 x3, O combo compared to the first combo? I’m seeing people using that instead. Also, the first combo allows me to do O,O,R2,R2,O with mighty bow. Would that do more damage than just the 4 shots?
Does this only work with Bow charge plus? New player trying to optimize my bow play, O R O R O doesn't work. After the second O the R only shoots 1 arrow
Jesus Christ Bow just seems so intimidating to me. This is someone whose been playing for 600 hours and has finally decided to pick up a ranged weapon.
Perhaps you didn't have Bow Charge + jewel on? What i notice is that every Bow mains always aims to get this jewel, since it'll add 1 more charge to your bow, further extended the combo and damage output
Thank you for this video, i would like to know if you can make a video talking about new dragon piercing build, i had that build but i don't Know which is Better and what weapon i use black diablos final bow, but i read thst is better elemental builds
Haven't really gotten around to a new DP build yet as I still need 1 special ammo boost jewel to make a good one. I do however have a build video for DP which currently is very viable though. You should check that out
Also, in terms of damage. You usually kill things faster with elemental bow builds. But I wouldn't say it's as much satisfaction in playing those builds over getting the incredible hits with a DP build.
Thank you so much, to respond me, and yes, i feel better when i play with DP build, if you have a video with that build i really would like see, maybe it's better than i use right now!
I personally thinck that the combo of jumping of a wall is the one taht does more damage and can be repeated infintitly. The only problem is that is very difficult to aim
It's the most dmg yes, but you can't do that anywhere. It's not really hard to aim either, at least not in my opinion. Check out my Nergigante Bow Speedrun
I'm an avid well practiced bow user and I frequently am able to keep monsters stun locked by spamming the spike ball bags but no one seems to talk about that strategy...for example vaal hazak I can pretty much keep on the ground by spamming those combos a few seconds but then raining a couple of ball sacks on his head before he fully gets back up. Am I bowing wrong?
Im hr 120 but man im still using auto focus cam i dont really feel comfortable whenever i use my right analog stick thats why i dont use bow but perhaps i'll give it a shot thanks man for the vid!
Anyone know why the 3rd charged shot from the first combo ( O, O, R2, O) doesn't always come out even with a full stamina? It just comes out as a normal shot.
R2 is a normal shot. It always comes out as one. It probably doesn't come out as it comes out a bit slower, just hold the trigger until you're about to release and you should be good
@@TOCCLtoo thanks mate. Have had limited success with combo 2 (fourth sometimes becomes plain shot) but I'll try holding it down. Got used to combo 1 anyway. Even for someone without Bow Charge Plus my DPS went up significantly. If I wanted to gap close, it'd be dash Circle R2 circle yeah? Or even dash dash R2 Circle?
The same with me... i don't know what to do. I have Charge Plus Deco, Spread Deco, by second R in combo after power shot isn't charged. I notice that sometimes ramdomly works but most of the time don't....what could happen?
What would you say is what increase the most damage to your arrows? I use bow since forever, finished the game with it and am in HR 42, but I can't stop feeling wear with the bow. Never got a crit that hitted 40 damage. (Btw, have the same deviljho weapon)
TO CCL I watched the video multiple times but I'm not sure what you mean by “longest combo." Could you explain? This video really helped me tho, thanks!
TO CCL ah okay. I thought there was another combo I wasn't seeing. Also, when I do O O R2 O, my last shot fires 4 arrows instead of 6. Is this because I don't have bow charge +?
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It has come to my attention that there are 5 arrows on the 3rd shot in the 2nd combo, which means the second combo of 17 arrows (actually 19 with the 2 extra added) does: 709dmg (non-crit) to 997dmg (all crit).
Dumb me didn't see it through the hours of editing, and I was simply just not standing close enough when getting that third hit off. So, IF YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH; 5 arrows will hit the monster.
Meaning that you do more damage with the second combo than the first one (even over time), if you were to spam that into a monster. You also save more coatings this way.
I apologize for my ignorance, but at least now you have the answer. The REAL answer.
so the video's completely pointless?
Yes! This is the kind of concern I've been looking for. Thank you very much for this. I love to see videos like this but for other weapons.
Appreciate it!
I'll see what I get around to :)
You, sir, get a like. You're doing God's work by providing us with a very informative video with evidence based research. Please do keep doing more videos with similar format for other weapons. You'll be doing a great service to the hunter's community.
I'll see what I'll come up with
FINALLY someone explains this to me
I was wondering why nobody uses focus
One of the most helpful videos I've watched. Thank you!
Thank you! All this time I was only using charged shots and the power shot that you can chain with it. I never thought to use the uncharged shot to build up that combo damage
Very informative and no BS. Please continue creating quality content. Liked and subscribed. 😊
Oh wow, i shouldve know this! Thanks for the awesome guide man
An error, the third shot of the ORORO combo, which is the second spread shot, has 5 arrows instead of 3. Still amazing video though.
I was wandering why I don't see any speed runners using the OORO combo now, despite it being the mathmatically optimal combo. So I re-exam this video, and I think that's why.
FINALY, I look at some other youtubers and they all have their own keybindings (on the pc) and go through it like a fucking tornadowind. You explained this part extremely understandable for me. Love it! I will do more damage then my friends now ^^
Dang, this was really comprehensive! Awesome job!
Maybe you could do a hammer combo video next?
The O-O-O-O-O
to infinity is the most dmg for the hammer, provided you get in all the hits
Earned my sub. Keep up the great work!
Appreciate ya! ^^
Dunno if anyone even noticed this, but the math for the damage at 7:16 is wrong.
525 (NC) x 4 (rotations) = 2,100
735 (AC) x 4 (rotations) = 2,950
Which is more than the 2nd combo. I don't read comments lol. And just about to start using Bow. Great video anyway!
I wrote wrong, someone else caught it too : ) nevermind the x4 on the screen, just listen to what's said
X3's supposed to be there
@@TOCCLtoo oop. Copy that! Thank you!
You can also do O, O, R2, R2, O with mighty bow skill.
Your channel is so underrated! I really enjoy watching this guide, very easy to follow and explained really well. Keep up good work, and subbed!!!
I think it's doing better than I'd expect it to. 1500 subs with an average of 10k views on each video is phenomenal ^^
Appreciate it!
If MHW would allow me to assign dash to L1 and power shots to R1... that'd be great. Those split seconds where you have to take your thumb off of the right stick, which causes you to momentarily stop aiming, to dash or power shot can make the difference between arrows landing or not landing.
great video man,very detail.
Great info and analysis
TO CCL: I can't get combo one to work. Any suggestions?
Yours is O > O > R2 > O
Mine is O > O > stand awkwardly, not accepting button inputs
Do you have Bow Charge plus? (Legiana set bonus 2 or the bow charge plus jewel)
Yep, got that. After a bit more practice: I *think* I was just being impatient or imagining things.
I usually use R2 > R2 > R2 > O which isn't as damaging, but flows together really smoothly and threw off my timing for your combo.
Right, you might have to hold the button down until it shoots. I had a little troubles with this in the beginning too
I so want my Mighty Bow deco :( 501hrs.
Finally got Mighty Bow !! 563hrs :D
Thanks for doing all This research :) subbed + Liked
Bow main here xD
Feels bad man, keep up the grind! It'll drop eventually ^^
110 hrs in, want to master the bow, still need the might bow dec. bow feels so weak without this dec
It isn't mate. It's stronger with obv, but it's still not weak
I played bow in previous monhun games 😅 but I got confused when trying it on world. Your guide helped me a lot UwU)🙏🏻
I'm glad, thanks for checking it out ^^
By far the best bow video ive seen. Been looking for a change new sub. Whats your build here?
Thank you! Dragon Set nr 3 in the video showing all elemental bow builds
Damn! This is an amazing video Dude.
Thank you :)
Very helpful thank you so much!
No problem, thanks for watching!
i always start with a forward dash, so i can skip the weakest shot in the combo
a great vid man :) what if you dont have the mighty bow jewel is this 2 combo still good to use?
I have no idea mate. Haven't played without it tbh
Am I being silly or does combo 2 not work on the PC version?
This part comes out alright:
O > R2 > O
But when I go into the second charged shot it's lost all it's charge.
Is it somehow dependent on decorations?
Ohhh, also. Could you do a budget build for bow or some of the other weapons? I'm in that zone where I've killed some tempered elder dragons, but haven't found most/any of the rare decorations
You need bow charge plus to do it.
I've got builds out for people in end game and new game, feel free to to check them out
7:17 you got the math wrong there, on left side it says x4 but you only did x3 (unless I miss something)
I wrote 4, but I meant 3. Apparently I blindly went with the same number as was on the top of the screen.
It's NEARLY 4 though, just 1 attack from.
Great catch, and thank you!
Yo, I was planning on making a video about "How To Get Good At Using the Bow" (and other weapons as well) and this info (and the entire video) is great! Mind if I mention it and use it as a source in said video (should I actually make it)?
Go for it dude, just don't rip the entire video out ;)
Of course not! I'd give credit and just site you and your calculations for the best combos. Really informative video and with an easy to digest format, you've got a new sub :)
Appreciate it!
finally time to learn the bow!
Read the pinned comment.
This was a amazing video. Simple and easy to understand even for a dummy like me. I'll cross my fingers and hope you do more combo video's.
Appreciate it! I'll see if, and what I'll figure out :)
What about the standard O,R2 x3, O combo compared to the first combo? I’m seeing people using that instead. Also, the first combo allows me to do O,O,R2,R2,O with mighty bow. Would that do more damage than just the 4 shots?
Good vid ty, subbed and liked
Awesome! I love your video!
Does this only work with Bow charge plus? New player trying to optimize my bow play, O R O R O doesn't work. After the second O the R only shoots 1 arrow
Only with bow charge plus, yeah : )
Really late to the party but question, how is your stamina so massive? Or is that just the 100 max and my eyes are playing tricks on me
I just made it bigger for the video through editing to make what happens on the stam bar more noticeable
TO CCL I see! Thank you so much for the quick reply ☺️
I’m prettty sure everyone knew this already, no wait I can’t be the only one that Knew this
I knew, hence making the video
Hello why i cant do those combo on the video isted of the 3th or 4th shot the arc shot comes out??
Awesome info! Thanks.!
Back at ya!
TO CCL SUBSCRIBED! Looking forward to more helpful tips and sets!
Jesus Christ Bow just seems so intimidating to me. This is someone whose been playing for 600 hours and has finally decided to pick up a ranged weapon.
Bow's so worth it in the end though, I barely put it down.
Definitely the fastest weapon when you get used to it.
The first combo, whenever I try it the second Rapid shot ( R2) doesn’t charge and don’t have the charge animation.
Somebody help!
Perhaps you didn't have Bow Charge + jewel on? What i notice is that every Bow mains always aims to get this jewel, since it'll add 1 more charge to your bow, further extended the combo and damage output
If you are farming materials from a monster what do you use to cut tails off? DP?
Usually go with a SA or CB for reach
Thank you for this video, i would like to know if you can make a video talking about new dragon piercing build, i had that build but i don't Know which is Better and what weapon i use black diablos final bow, but i read thst is better elemental builds
Haven't really gotten around to a new DP build yet as I still need 1 special ammo boost jewel to make a good one.
I do however have a build video for DP which currently is very viable though. You should check that out
Also, in terms of damage. You usually kill things faster with elemental bow builds. But I wouldn't say it's as much satisfaction in playing those builds over getting the incredible hits with a DP build.
Thank you so much, to respond me, and yes, i feel better when i play with DP build, if you have a video with that build i really would like see, maybe it's better than i use right now!
Just go on my channel and check it out, or on the link in the description. It's all there. No worries ma fren
I use dash -> r2 -> o attack and repeat usually
Nice vid dude
I personally thinck that the combo of jumping of a wall is the one taht does more damage and can be repeated infintitly. The only problem is that is very difficult to aim
It's the most dmg yes, but you can't do that anywhere. It's not really hard to aim either, at least not in my opinion. Check out my Nergigante Bow Speedrun
Nice Guide vid
👍👏
Are these combos applied for 3 charge bow? sry im new to this game.
I miss my kelbi slingshot :(
I'm an avid well practiced bow user and I frequently am able to keep monsters stun locked by spamming the spike ball bags but no one seems to talk about that strategy...for example vaal hazak I can pretty much keep on the ground by spamming those combos a few seconds but then raining a couple of ball sacks on his head before he fully gets back up. Am I bowing wrong?
Nope. Whatever makes you kill the monsters faster mate
I also tend to do that, especially if it's elder dragons that are nice to keep on the ground for more dmg uptime
I found out about the first one myself and I don’t have bow charge plus yet so I’m guessing that’s how you did the second combo
You are correct : )
Im hr 120 but man im still using auto focus cam i dont really feel comfortable whenever i use my right analog stick thats why i dont use bow but perhaps i'll give it a shot thanks man for the vid!
It's a good one to get used to, as you can do both : )
Thanks for the comment!
I just found this?! Is this your second channel?
Yes man, offtime project ^^
Awesome!
But how does dash dancing effect the combos? Thanks for the vid
Each dash you do makes up for 1 charge on the bow.
I just click anything. I didn't know there is something like this
Anyone know why the 3rd charged shot from the first combo ( O, O, R2, O) doesn't always come out even with a full stamina? It just comes out as a normal shot.
R2 is a normal shot. It always comes out as one.
It probably doesn't come out as it comes out a bit slower, just hold the trigger until you're about to release and you should be good
I meant it comes out uncharged. But yeah holding R2 seems to work, ty!
@@TOCCLtoo thanks mate. Have had limited success with combo 2 (fourth sometimes becomes plain shot) but I'll try holding it down. Got used to combo 1 anyway.
Even for someone without Bow Charge Plus my DPS went up significantly. If I wanted to gap close, it'd be dash Circle R2 circle yeah? Or even dash dash R2 Circle?
@@Natetorius same here, for combo 2 anyway. Will figure it out.
The second combo, how you do that? After O+r2+O.. i cant do that...
Bow charge plus jewel
So... for xbox.. B, right triggerx3, B is the combo to use?
B = circle
R2 = right bumper/triggee
My second R in ororo combo won’t go charged, although I am completely imitating your movements, any ideas why?
I think that's the flaw of this video. He has Bow Charge Plus, which charges your shots by one level extra. His base normal shot, is charged by one.
The same with me... i don't know what to do. I have Charge Plus Deco, Spread Deco, by second R in combo after power shot isn't charged. I notice that sometimes ramdomly works but most of the time don't....what could happen?
Will Sharpshooter make a difference to this comparison?
As it increases Normal shot dmg by 10%, you could just apply that to the places normal shot is in these combination. See if there's a difference
Best video for bow.
Too bad I did a mistake- check out the pinned comment.
I would put several thumbs up if I could
Just gotta get bigger thumbs !
why does my 6th shot always shoot 1 arrow ???
Use Bow Charge Plus jewel
What would you say is what increase the most damage to your arrows?
I use bow since forever, finished the game with it and am in HR 42, but I can't stop feeling wear with the bow. Never got a crit that hitted 40 damage.
(Btw, have the same deviljho weapon)
If you fight the monster with its elemental weakness you can make a shit ton of damage and kill it faster
Factual facts are factual
I think i'll use the left rotation if i run out of power arrows
*Power coatings
Wow nice ! Domo arigato !
can i do this with all the bows?
Yes. You can not do the longest combo without bow charge plus skill though
TO CCL I watched the video multiple times but I'm not sure what you mean by “longest combo." Could you explain? This video really helped me tho, thanks!
O, R2, O, R2, O
TO CCL ah okay. I thought there was another combo I wasn't seeing. Also, when I do O O R2 O, my last shot fires 4 arrows instead of 6. Is this because I don't have bow charge +?
That could be, either that or you're missing a few
Holy shit how u do so much damage???? Set?
Dragon set 3 In my "ALL Elements video"
Someone translate this into PC settings.
Spread shot = circle
Normal shot = R2
@@TOCCLtoo Bro. Left or right click
I jest
1st combo = RT click + RT click + CTRL + RT click
2nd combo = RT click + CTRL + RT click + CTRL + RT click
@@danchau7993 Figured that out then took a mid tier aqua bow and proceeded to smash HR diablos horns something I couldn't do with an IG.
Why does my 1st combo always proc the disgusting arc shot? Is it because i have to wait for the bow to go back up?
your math is wrong on the 4 rotations
That sure tells me everything
YO YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT YOU WANNA r2 O spam lmao STUN LOCK BABY!
I've been playing bow wrong all this time. 😓
Don't feel bad man ^^
Nice
nice video
Thank you!
You rock
I bow! You rock!
Where am I? 🐄😮
Farmlands?
I subscribe to O O r2 O, but why are all these guys saying O R2 R2 O is de wae
Primaeva if you don’t have bow charge plus, you use O R2 R2 O.
What bow were you using?
DevilJho. The set is dragonset number 3 in the video "insane elemental bow builds: ALL Elements.
TO CCL thank you! Keep up the great vids!
Empress Arrow Styx with Luna 4pc armor w damascus mail chest. As a vet. Lunastra one of the VERY best set i ever laid hands on. Perfection 👌🏻not only makes you feel powerful but you can also save lives. Whats more to ask
Ralph Mathew Padilla better than kt thunder?????
Ralph Mathew Padilla - Lunastra chest comes with 2 peak performance and 3 slots, if I remember right Damascus is 2 focus and 3 slots. Is focus that useful to drop the attack boost from peak?
insta sub thanks maan
So what I'm hearing is nerf it 8)
Most likely not going to happen
@@TOCCLtoo My first monster hunter. Do they usually not patch weapons between games?
Yes : )
Nice bro, thanks for such and amazing video