The best part of the Logi wheels are that they are built like a tank. Some of us are poor and don't have companies giving us free wheels, and we can't afford to upgrade really, so we had to go with the wheel that was more likely to last. My logitech has thousands, and thousands, and thousands of hours on it, and is still working as well as the day I got it 6 or 7 years ago. The gears are inherently less likely to fail than a belt system. Just something to keep in mind.
I have had one driver force, one driving force pro and lastly a fanatec car. The fanatecs I bought more recently, and......pots on the pedals were cheap and kept rusting away, the belt lasted just one year. Total price of the fanatecs was well over 300quid (£'s). My Logitechs are still working great and one was sold and soon I'm going to be selling my other Logitech. Upshot, I bought a g293. Why? Build quality is good, but to be honest, I just love the mechanical feel of the Logitech stuff. If you've ever driven a real car, you know that despite being smooth, the unmistakable mechanical feel is always there. The belts give none of that, but Logitech does. It's the jank man.
@@bonglandgreg I like the feel of the gears too! lol. I don't know what it is, I just do. I'm definitely glad I upgraded to a set of Fanatec CSL load cells though. The pedals were a huge upgrade over the Logitech ones.
Got my G923 in Oct. 2022 and have zero complaints. It's a superb starter wheel for sure. I've had to clean the potentiometers on the pedals a couple of times. Keeps them working like new. Great product. Great vid. Thanks
Thanks for this... Everyone seems to be complaining but I think the cleaning and handling plays a big part. What percentage do you have you Force feedback on? I have a feeling people increase way to high and does not make the product last long. Thinking of getting between this and thrusmaster but the Logitech is way cheaper
@@bigsam9987 I believe my FFB is set at 88% at the moment, ( I think). Audio feedback is 65% for ACC. I still play with settings depending on the FFB meter while driving since learning about clipping. If the FFB meter stays in the red to much, your FFB settings are to strong and that's called clipping. Basically after a certain point, the feedback the wheel sends you isn't accurate because it's receiving to much signal from the Sim/ Game to be accurate. On the other hand, a little red is ok. You've got me interested in finding out if stronger feedback settings will effect the wheels lifespan.🤔 G923 is a great investment for a starter wheel. I've got no complaints.
I bought the G923 and XBox S-series with the shifter for my grandson’s upcoming 9th birthday along with the OpenWheeler Gen 3 cockpit. Any suggestions/recommendations considering his age? Neither one of us know anything about SIM. Thanks
@@dorinkish9761 I'm new to it also and the only games I've been working on are Dirt 2.0, Tony Stewart's All American, and mostly Assetto Corsa Competizione. The latter being the more Sim out of the three. I've found its a pretty stout learning curve so just start with basic settings and learn car control. There's tons of tutorial vids on just about every aspect of Sim Racing, no matter your preferred platform or games. Keep it simple in the beginning and always have fun.
I have a G920 since 2017 and it doesn't skip a beat. The only mod that I have done to it is add hall sensors to the pedals. It's not like I have much choice since imports are highly regulated in Argentina and the inflation is crazy so even a T300 would be a dream upgrade. My plan is to eventually get a sim rig and VR (also hard to find here). Thankfully these things are good enough and super reliable.
Returned the G29 for the G923 cause the G29 just felt off having no haptics, its crazy just how much haptics make such a HUGE difference, the vibration and the enhanced break pedal really make it hard to reccomend the g29, price diff is small enough to justify a MUCH better wheel with the g923
I needed to see a comment like this , thank you . Got the g29 for Christmas , while it’s nice some of the leather on the back isn’t adhered to the wheel , feels like an air bubble. G923 is on sale and I’m gonna return the g929 and get the 923
@@shupster369 awesome glad I could help, crazy how big of a difference those added haptics make right? might only be like a 30-50 dollar difference (on sale) but it certainly feels like a $200 upgrade lol
Of course it's worth. For occasionally playing racing games just enough. Buying Fanatec, Moza and similar expensive maybe have a sense for the people who want to build tiny simulator and get some more fun but with this wheel nobody will be wrong at all for a casual daily gaming experience. I'm a professional driver and believe me even in a heavy trucks you'll never feel that enormous ffb even when I drove a months ago Lancia Delta Integrale car from the 80s on Rally show haven't noticed so many enormous forces just like players expect because have no sense even in real racing where nowadays all racing cars have power steering and assisting mechanisms.
I think that drifting with the g923 is extremely underrated. The greatly improved rotational speed thanks to the new 1000hz they added to work with true force, which means 0 needs of LUT files and calibrate it overtime in AC for example. If a person came from a wheel that's more powerful,fine you won't feel much difference between the models but coming from a g29 or older and using the tips of good old light hand driving instead of grasping with all force like it had 8nm of torque will quite improve your sense of details during racing and drifting overtime. Used to hate my g29 when I first got it Until I got a free upgrade to g923 and started using it right,weak wheel? Light hands.
As a long term g29 user (with a modified shifter) I'm perfectly happy with what I have and probably won't upgrade any time soon since I don't feel like shelling out the money needed. Might get a low end rig since I currently use a dining chair but other than that and a couple light mods I don't see myself doing anything else soon.
@@chilli-soup thinking either that or the fgt lite. Leaning towards the fgt because it has a shifter mount in the box. How are the aftermarket mounts for the playseat?
@@neblolthecarnerd maybe the GT-Lite it is cheaper dan fgt-lite iff you dont care about F1 seating style like the playseat challenge it is just the gt seating style
I have my old PS3 Driving Force Pro for GT5/PS3. Its old. I have no doubt its incredibly out of date. Let me tell ya, it still works, and its decent enough! This will hold up and do its job.
Personally I think about preference if I like the wheels feedback, so I like how it feels, weather your just starting or pro it’s an awesome wheel, all the other accessories (except some pedals) are not that preferences but are rather based around general comfort.
Thanks for this! I bought the G923 last summer to play Gran Turismo Sport. Although the feel and build quality were a big step up from my old Logitech Driving Force Pro, I was really disappointed about the amount of loud plastic clanking the Force Feedback generates in the wheelbase. It occasionally spoils the immersion. That said, I really enjoy the sensation of the TrueForce through the wheel itself, which has refreshed my GT Sport gameplay. I'm tempted to upgrade to a DD wheel to increase the immersion but the cost is way too high. Until they become cheaper, the G923 is an excellent entry-level wheel. 👍
Well, mine after a year is basically destroyed even with all the care I took, the pedals were awesome at first but even those didn’t last long, I don’t think it’s worth it but you will still have an incredible amount of fun an fall in love with sim racing
I have put over 1,000 hours of hard driving on my G29. The only thing that has broken on it is the face buttons no longer work, as the connector was not routed properly when assembled, and the wire that connected to the face plate buttons disintegrated from being twisted and untwisted hundreds of thousands of times. The brake pedal is very soft after the rubber buffer piece they put in it has been worn out, the throttle and brake pedals occasionally give input when they're not being touched, but this is easily corrected by jiggling the pedals and maybe a squirt of contact cleaner. Perhaps the newer ones are built more poorly, but mine is from 2018, I think. edit: The Logitech H pattern shifter also has a minor fault, in which it doesn't register the reverse gear as reverse unless you push the gear selector towards the gate wall between 4th and 6th/R. It will instead choose 6th gear if you do not press it against the leftmost side of the gate as you select it, however, once reverse is selected, you can let go of the shifter and it stays in reverse.
I am not sure how you manage to destroy these, I had G29 for many years, after that G923 and it was still like new when i sold it to get in to different ecosystem. I had fun with both wheels and I feel G923 is meaningful upgrade being quieter and not having dead zone at the middle.
I just bough one 3 weeks ago in prep for PSVR 2 and Gran Turismo 7. Being my first steering wheel I couldn't be happier.. I Don't even cranck up the force, as to me feels unrealistic for a car with power steering. Still trying to understand why people like the force feedback so strong. I tried it and was very hard to turn.. which at least in my real car is not that hard.😅
Well even in Race cars you have some power steering including rally cars or just F1. The main thing is that ffb in gaming racing wheels aren't especially reflecting the reality because it can play a faulty unit in a real car on the track where these forces you can actually feel with highest speed even when cornering. Old racing cars were producing lots of forces but not necessary today in modern racing cars. So for me watching all these people demanding enormous shakes and forces from the wheel is just a little bit of a parody. With these huge forces actually no one will survive long time real Race not to mention 24h endurance.
The only problem I have with my G923 is the noise - I just can't play late at night and early in the morning :) This is the only reason I want to upgrade to some DD wheel. However, as I'm really into GT7 I find more reasonable to get a nice stiff solid cockpit. I assume upgrading a cockpit will improve my racing experience way better then upgrading to a new wheel.
I bought the G923, shifter and AXC truebrake. They were only "OK". The wheel is loud and clunky. The AXC improved the brake but not by much. Switching to Fanatec CSL elite V2s was night and day vs the AXC. The shifter is terrible, every time you touch it you know you are feeling a toy. The pedals also feel like a toy, and the wheel feels slightly nicer than the pedals but is also not good. The wheel is smaller than it should be, has weak force and makes loud noises. In AC - I tried everything, LUT file, no LUT file, every recommended FFB setting I could find, etc. I used FFBclip app, all kinds of stuff really. I never could get the FFB feeling good. I replaced the G923 with a VRS DFP wheelbase and a nice steering wheel. Now I can enjoy sim racing. I am going to sell off my G923, it was only useful for letting me know that I enjoyed simracing... and that I should spend more money to get the proper gear.
That is an interesting experience you have shared, as I use a G29 and think the force feedback tells me everything I need to know. Even when I play ACC, a sim notorious for its FFB being subpar for low detail consumer grade wheels, I am able to keep the car on the track most of the time. Perhaps the G923's "trueforce" makes the wheel produce worse force feedback compared to an original G29 model?
@@bubbleman2002 No it doesn’t.Fun fact:ACC has worse ffb than IRacing.On the other hand,trueforce isn’t worth it,don’t buy the g923 buy t300rs gt instead
@@bubbleman2002 For ACC w/ my Logitech, I set my settings according to that FFB video that Aris.Drives put out. The FFB felt ok, I haven't had a chance to setup ACC for my new DD so I don't have anything to compare it to. I watched a review of the G wheels by callsign before I bought my G923. What he said was correct - I was able to feel understeer/oversteer/etc thru the wheel. My main complaint is more about the overall feel of the wheel I think. I play in VR and I am trying to remove anything that lessens immersion / add items to increase immersion. The loud clack/clunk of the FFB with the Logitech really drove me crazy. Also when driving feeling the gear lash was pretty annoying. I kept getting things from the Logitech that made me realize "You are not driving a racecar, you are sitting in your room playing pretend." My first post was maybe a little too harsly worded, I would recommend a Logitech wheel to someone wanting to dip their toes in - with the caveat that if they do like the hobby they will get the itch to upgrade and lose a little cash in the process. The shifter I would not recommend. The SHH shifter is a much better product for just a little more $$ (assuming PC player vs console that is).
I have a T300RS and G923 to go with PSVR2 GT7. Negatives aside, you get what you pay for but man the g923 is A LOT MORE FUN in VR! T300 although more refined felt empty
Great video, I bought the Logitech G923 two days ago. Is it normal that when turning to the right, it sounds like a drill, but there's no noise when turning left? This happens in Gran Turismo Sport. I'm paying attention, and if not, what could it be? Thanks for your response. 😅
I get this on GT7 when turning hard left or hard right. Awful rattle noise even when turning down the vibration settings. Its awful, will be getting rid of it soon, really regret buying it as apparently this is what they are like.
ive had the G27 And The T300 if youre interested in Sim Drifting the Logitech Wheels arent that good because their Force Feedback isnt strong enough to spin them really fast
Not even gonna watch the video,... had this wheel for a month now brand new,.... simple answer is yes. Payed $400 Cad. $300 USD. Payed $200 Cad., and got a steel racing frame from GT Omega also a no brainer. Having a blast!!!
Atenção !!! Que esta é só a minha opinião. Para quem está a começar em esta cena de volantes sff não liguem nenhuma a logitech na gama de entrada … ( só vale a pena a preço OLX ) querem um volante para começar no sim racing? Fácil compra um t300 e deixaste de merdas … depois agradece-me 😂😂😂❤❤❤ Atenção que está é só aninha opinião …
is that trueforce that you were touching at 1:04 while saying trueforce? or is it jump the clamp? if it's the clamp, how do you use it? this video gives more question than answer for beginner like me.
Debatable imho. The G line of Logitech wheels when properly dialed in offer a remarkably smooth and detailed Ffb. A bit less dampened than the belt drives and the wheels are "faster" for a similar level of force. I used to own a T300 still own a DFGT and a CSW v2.5. Properly dialed in, the DFGT offers an experience on par with a T300 imho. Obviously weaker but within the same ballpark.
@@Heldermaior lmao are you seriously comparing a t300 to a dfgt? its leagues ahead, belt driven, basically double the torque, way faster, way smoother and more detailed ffb and its way quieter. Dont get me wrong the dfgt is a great value wheel, but it just doesnt compare to the t300
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 I am saying that although better, it is not that big a difference yes. That is what I found having owned both of them. And a G27 for a brief period of time. Gear wheels are faster than equivalent belt driven wheels. That is one of the differences
Hey Amir! Could you elaborate? In what terms is T248 better than g923? I would be thankful since I am considering both products. Is the force feedback really that crucial? Which one would be better for novice simracing and which one for novice drifting experience? Thank you in advance! :)
Had a G29 for exactly 1 year, and felt the need to upgrade to a T300 RS GT. At least it felt like an upgrade and honestly is better. Loved my G29, great build quality but the ability to change wheel rims on the T300 is just too good. Now all I need is to get the SF1000 Ferrari Wheel and I'm golden xD
@@SnipingWatermelon nah mate, sold mine immediately after I got the T300, and honestly nowadays for the prices that you pay for a G29 you're better off buying a direct drive, Fanatec has a great bundle and it costs less than a G29 which is baffling
Useless ass reply if you don't point people towards any alternatives. You might as well comment "I just shit my pants during dinner"; what are we supposed to do with that knowledge?
True Force a sub to the channel
IT IS A RIPOFF!!! FAILS AFTER WARRANTY!!!!
Did you try this wheel in Trackmania?
The best part of the Logi wheels are that they are built like a tank. Some of us are poor and don't have companies giving us free wheels, and we can't afford to upgrade really, so we had to go with the wheel that was more likely to last. My logitech has thousands, and thousands, and thousands of hours on it, and is still working as well as the day I got it 6 or 7 years ago. The gears are inherently less likely to fail than a belt system. Just something to keep in mind.
Same i have a Driving force GT 😂 and still lasts and works
I have had one driver force, one driving force pro and lastly a fanatec car.
The fanatecs I bought more recently, and......pots on the pedals were cheap and kept rusting away, the belt lasted just one year. Total price of the fanatecs was well over 300quid (£'s).
My Logitechs are still working great and one was sold and soon I'm going to be selling my other Logitech.
Upshot, I bought a g293. Why?
Build quality is good, but to be honest, I just love the mechanical feel of the Logitech stuff. If you've ever driven a real car, you know that despite being smooth, the unmistakable mechanical feel is always there. The belts give none of that, but Logitech does.
It's the jank man.
@@bonglandgreg I like the feel of the gears too! lol. I don't know what it is, I just do. I'm definitely glad I upgraded to a set of Fanatec CSL load cells though. The pedals were a huge upgrade over the Logitech ones.
My G27 lasted 13 years.
what are your opinions about the sound it makes for a new buyer?
Got my G923 in Oct. 2022 and have zero complaints. It's a superb starter wheel for sure.
I've had to clean the potentiometers on the pedals a couple of times. Keeps them working like new. Great product. Great vid. Thanks
Thanks for this... Everyone seems to be complaining but I think the cleaning and handling plays a big part.
What percentage do you have you Force feedback on?
I have a feeling people increase way to high and does not make the product last long.
Thinking of getting between this and thrusmaster but the Logitech is way cheaper
@@bigsam9987 I believe my FFB is set at 88% at the moment, ( I think). Audio feedback is 65% for ACC. I still play with settings depending on the FFB meter while driving since learning about clipping.
If the FFB meter stays in the red to much, your FFB settings are to strong and that's called clipping. Basically after a certain point, the feedback the wheel sends you isn't accurate because it's receiving to much signal from the Sim/ Game to be accurate.
On the other hand, a little red is ok.
You've got me interested in finding out if stronger feedback settings will effect the wheels lifespan.🤔
G923 is a great investment for a starter wheel. I've got no complaints.
I bought the G923 and XBox S-series with the shifter for my grandson’s upcoming 9th birthday along with the OpenWheeler Gen 3 cockpit. Any suggestions/recommendations considering his age? Neither one of us know anything about SIM. Thanks
@@dorinkish9761 I'm new to it also and the only games I've been working on are Dirt 2.0, Tony Stewart's All American, and mostly Assetto Corsa Competizione. The latter being the more Sim out of the three.
I've found its a pretty stout learning curve so just start with basic settings and learn car control.
There's tons of tutorial vids on just about every aspect of Sim Racing, no matter your preferred platform or games.
Keep it simple in the beginning and always have fun.
What are your favorite games to play with it?
You are supposed to push down after tightening the desk clamp. You push down and turn so itll never untighten btw
At last; a look at Logitech's GXXX wheels without the usual snooty tone and quips about it not being a £10,000 direct drive masterpiece.
no snooty tones unless product really deserves it.
I agree, a lot of reviews just say that the feeling is not comparable to direct drive wheels
I have a G920 since 2017 and it doesn't skip a beat. The only mod that I have done to it is add hall sensors to the pedals. It's not like I have much choice since imports are highly regulated in Argentina and the inflation is crazy so even a T300 would be a dream upgrade. My plan is to eventually get a sim rig and VR (also hard to find here). Thankfully these things are good enough and super reliable.
Keep striving towards your passions no matter the hurdles my fellow human!❤
Do u think the T300 much better as G923? I know, u have g920, but i think both are almost the same. Thanks a lot.
Returned the G29 for the G923 cause the G29 just felt off having no haptics, its crazy just how much haptics make such a HUGE difference, the vibration and the enhanced break pedal really make it hard to reccomend the g29, price diff is small enough to justify a MUCH better wheel with the g923
I needed to see a comment like this , thank you . Got the g29 for Christmas , while it’s nice some of the leather on the back isn’t adhered to the wheel , feels like an air bubble. G923 is on sale and I’m gonna return the g929 and get the 923
@@shupster369 Did you end up getting the g923?
@matbob56 sure didn, super happy with it ! The g29 was nice but the 923 is worth the trade up
@@shupster369 awesome glad I could help, crazy how big of a difference those added haptics make right? might only be like a 30-50 dollar difference (on sale) but it certainly feels like a $200 upgrade lol
Of course it's worth. For occasionally playing racing games just enough. Buying Fanatec, Moza and similar expensive maybe have a sense for the people who want to build tiny simulator and get some more fun but with this wheel nobody will be wrong at all for a casual daily gaming experience. I'm a professional driver and believe me even in a heavy trucks you'll never feel that enormous ffb even when I drove a months ago Lancia Delta Integrale car from the 80s on Rally show haven't noticed so many enormous forces just like players expect because have no sense even in real racing where nowadays all racing cars have power steering and assisting mechanisms.
I think that drifting with the g923 is extremely underrated. The greatly improved rotational speed thanks to the new 1000hz they added to work with true force, which means 0 needs of LUT files and calibrate it overtime in AC for example. If a person came from a wheel that's more powerful,fine you won't feel much difference between the models but coming from a g29 or older and using the tips of good old light hand driving instead of grasping with all force like it had 8nm of torque will quite improve your sense of details during racing and drifting overtime. Used to hate my g29 when I first got it Until I got a free upgrade to g923 and started using it right,weak wheel? Light hands.
As a long term g29 user (with a modified shifter) I'm perfectly happy with what I have and probably won't upgrade any time soon since I don't feel like shelling out the money needed. Might get a low end rig since I currently use a dining chair but other than that and a couple light mods I don't see myself doing anything else soon.
If you can, the Playseat Challenge was a game changer for me.
@@chilli-soup thinking either that or the fgt lite. Leaning towards the fgt because it has a shifter mount in the box. How are the aftermarket mounts for the playseat?
@@neblolthecarnerd maybe the GT-Lite it is cheaper dan fgt-lite iff you dont care about F1 seating style like the playseat challenge it is just the gt seating style
@@Zerped-ve7iq oh yea I meant the GT lite. I prefer a GT style driving position.
I got this today for 150.00 with a shifter and the true brake upgrade. I'm stoked.
woah!! super sweet deal
I have my old PS3 Driving Force Pro for GT5/PS3. Its old. I have no doubt its incredibly out of date. Let me tell ya, it still works, and its decent enough! This will hold up and do its job.
Just picked one up for $190 on ebay. Not a bad deal.
Personally I think about preference if I like the wheels feedback, so I like how it feels, weather your just starting or pro it’s an awesome wheel, all the other accessories (except some pedals) are not that preferences but are rather based around general comfort.
Thanks for this! I bought the G923 last summer to play Gran Turismo Sport. Although the feel and build quality were a big step up from my old Logitech Driving Force Pro, I was really disappointed about the amount of loud plastic clanking the Force Feedback generates in the wheelbase. It occasionally spoils the immersion. That said, I really enjoy the sensation of the TrueForce through the wheel itself, which has refreshed my GT Sport gameplay. I'm tempted to upgrade to a DD wheel to increase the immersion but the cost is way too high. Until they become cheaper, the G923 is an excellent entry-level wheel. 👍
G29 or G923? Which one is better?
G923 (if you want the extra feedback vibrations). Plus, it looks and feels less like a toy.@@o_kudo_o8854
@@o_kudo_o8854 923 because it has that haptic feedback ability.
@@o_kudo_o8854g923
Well, mine after a year is basically destroyed even with all the care I took, the pedals were awesome at first but even those didn’t last long, I don’t think it’s worth it but you will still have an incredible amount of fun an fall in love with sim racing
Yeah my G920 started to fall apart after about a year. I’ve been using it since December 2020 and it’s still pretty ok
I have put over 1,000 hours of hard driving on my G29. The only thing that has broken on it is the face buttons no longer work, as the connector was not routed properly when assembled, and the wire that connected to the face plate buttons disintegrated from being twisted and untwisted hundreds of thousands of times. The brake pedal is very soft after the rubber buffer piece they put in it has been worn out, the throttle and brake pedals occasionally give input when they're not being touched, but this is easily corrected by jiggling the pedals and maybe a squirt of contact cleaner. Perhaps the newer ones are built more poorly, but mine is from 2018, I think.
edit: The Logitech H pattern shifter also has a minor fault, in which it doesn't register the reverse gear as reverse unless you push the gear selector towards the gate wall between 4th and 6th/R. It will instead choose 6th gear if you do not press it against the leftmost side of the gate as you select it, however, once reverse is selected, you can let go of the shifter and it stays in reverse.
I am not sure how you manage to destroy these, I had G29 for many years, after that G923 and it was still like new when i sold it to get in to different ecosystem. I had fun with both wheels and I feel G923 is meaningful upgrade being quieter and not having dead zone at the middle.
Do u live in a Cement factory?
I have got a g27 , bought many years ago and used for a long period of time and its works !!
I just bough one 3 weeks ago in prep for PSVR 2 and Gran Turismo 7. Being my first steering wheel I couldn't be happier.. I Don't even cranck up the force, as to me feels unrealistic for a car with power steering. Still trying to understand why people like the force feedback so strong. I tried it and was very hard to turn.. which at least in my real car is not that hard.😅
Its more about the peak torque and feeling more detail. Also, a race car with power steering outputs way more torque than an average road car
The new logitech dd wheel produces 11 Nm torgue.Yeah the g923 nice especially true force supported games like grid 2019.
@@ozgurkuzu2202that's more from these 5Nm or 9Nm from Fanatec. But not necessarily important in full setup force for gaming purposes.
Well even in Race cars you have some power steering including rally cars or just F1. The main thing is that ffb in gaming racing wheels aren't especially reflecting the reality because it can play a faulty unit in a real car on the track where these forces you can actually feel with highest speed even when cornering. Old racing cars were producing lots of forces but not necessary today in modern racing cars. So for me watching all these people demanding enormous shakes and forces from the wheel is just a little bit of a parody. With these huge forces actually no one will survive long time real Race not to mention 24h endurance.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 not only Grid but the actual GT3 king like Assetto Corsa Competizione and play well on this wheel.
I’m going to pick one up today for $150! I’m pumped !
The only problem I have with my G923 is the noise - I just can't play late at night and early in the morning :) This is the only reason I want to upgrade to some DD wheel. However, as I'm really into GT7 I find more reasonable to get a nice stiff solid cockpit. I assume upgrading a cockpit will improve my racing experience way better then upgrading to a new wheel.
Well, in my country, its have a same price as t300rs, so no
I bought the G923, shifter and AXC truebrake. They were only "OK". The wheel is loud and clunky. The AXC improved the brake but not by much. Switching to Fanatec CSL elite V2s was night and day vs the AXC.
The shifter is terrible, every time you touch it you know you are feeling a toy. The pedals also feel like a toy, and the wheel feels slightly nicer than the pedals but is also not good. The wheel is smaller than it should be, has weak force and makes loud noises.
In AC - I tried everything, LUT file, no LUT file, every recommended FFB setting I could find, etc. I used FFBclip app, all kinds of stuff really.
I never could get the FFB feeling good.
I replaced the G923 with a VRS DFP wheelbase and a nice steering wheel. Now I can enjoy sim racing.
I am going to sell off my G923, it was only useful for letting me know that I enjoyed simracing... and that I should spend more money to get the proper gear.
That is an interesting experience you have shared, as I use a G29 and think the force feedback tells me everything I need to know. Even when I play ACC, a sim notorious for its FFB being subpar for low detail consumer grade wheels, I am able to keep the car on the track most of the time. Perhaps the G923's "trueforce" makes the wheel produce worse force feedback compared to an original G29 model?
@@bubbleman2002 No it doesn’t.Fun fact:ACC has worse ffb than IRacing.On the other hand,trueforce isn’t worth it,don’t buy the g923 buy t300rs gt instead
@@bubbleman2002 For ACC w/ my Logitech, I set my settings according to that FFB video that Aris.Drives put out.
The FFB felt ok, I haven't had a chance to setup ACC for my new DD so I don't have anything to compare it to.
I watched a review of the G wheels by callsign before I bought my G923. What he said was correct - I was able to feel understeer/oversteer/etc thru the wheel.
My main complaint is more about the overall feel of the wheel I think. I play in VR and I am trying to remove anything that lessens immersion / add items to increase immersion.
The loud clack/clunk of the FFB with the Logitech really drove me crazy. Also when driving feeling the gear lash was pretty annoying.
I kept getting things from the Logitech that made me realize "You are not driving a racecar, you are sitting in your room playing pretend."
My first post was maybe a little too harsly worded, I would recommend a Logitech wheel to someone wanting to dip their toes in - with the caveat that if they do like the hobby they will get the itch to upgrade and lose a little cash in the process.
The shifter I would not recommend. The SHH shifter is a much better product for just a little more $$ (assuming PC player vs console that is).
Thank you for the review, won't waste my money on another "toy".
I have a T300RS and G923 to go with PSVR2 GT7. Negatives aside, you get what you pay for but man the g923 is A LOT MORE FUN in VR! T300 although more refined felt empty
Good to hear - I just ordered the G923 to pair with PSVR2/GT7, can't wait!
Congrats on buying a bad VR headset and using Gaystation.
I’m debating on a wheel. And I too have the psvr2. Gran turismo looks awesome n VR
@@Devildog81 Quierdo
@@fireskydiver7not everyone can afford a £2000 plus pc set up
Great video, I bought the Logitech G923 two days ago. Is it normal that when turning to the right, it sounds like a drill, but there's no noise when turning left? This happens in Gran Turismo Sport. I'm paying attention, and if not, what could it be? Thanks for your response. 😅
I get this on GT7 when turning hard left or hard right. Awful rattle noise even when turning down the vibration settings. Its awful, will be getting rid of it soon, really regret buying it as apparently this is what they are like.
What is the best setting for this wheel
Let’s hope so because I still use the g29
Not mentioned the dual clutch feature..
Grid (2019) has pretty good Trueforce support on PC
On sale with shifter for $280. Was the purchase worth it?
I had to settle getting mine without the shifter and paid about that price, usd.
My logitech g923 evertime i turn on the trueforce. The wheel pulling to the leftside. I dont have idea
ive had the G27 And The T300 if youre interested in Sim Drifting the Logitech Wheels arent that good because their Force Feedback isnt strong enough to spin them really fast
And it’s loud as shit
Did you tried DDPro ?
People say it’s weak but if you buy it and can’t pick up the box without problems then it’s gonna be strong as fuck because it is for me
I feel that is depend what I have, the Logitech is one of the best entry levels , pedals yes they aren’t there but for the price is worthy.
what is the wheel stand called that you are useing in the video
Theres a sale now, and I can pick this up for the exact same price of a G29. Cant wair for it to arrive!
Is it true that this wheel has more pedals than G29, in the back, near sequential shifter?
No.
US logitech wheels leather is nicely tightened up, while in the rest of the world is all wrinkled, i hate that
Thinking about getting the Logitech g923 but I only play forza & im not sure if the wheel would be compatible with nfs heat
I have it and it is worth it
Got a new open box. $180 shipped. Ebay.
Not even gonna watch the video,... had this wheel for a month now brand new,.... simple answer is yes. Payed $400 Cad. $300 USD. Payed $200 Cad., and got a steel racing frame from GT Omega also a no brainer. Having a blast!!!
Braking with left foot?
@@thousand-burgerdestroyer1613 yes
which is better the g920 or the g923
Atenção !!! Que esta é só a minha opinião.
Para quem está a começar em esta cena de volantes sff não liguem nenhuma a logitech na gama de entrada … ( só vale a pena a preço OLX ) querem um volante para começar no sim racing? Fácil compra um t300 e deixaste de merdas … depois agradece-me 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Atenção que está é só aninha opinião …
Causing heat problems thats why i go for g923 pal.
is that trueforce that you were touching at 1:04 while saying trueforce? or is it jump the clamp? if it's the clamp, how do you use it? this video gives more question than answer for beginner like me.
It’s worth it. But just know after 2 months you’ll be buy load cell pedals fanatec and a whole rig
Glad I avoided Logitech while getting into it, the T300 video helped me buy
This or T248?
Thank you for the great video! What is the game featured at the 4 minute mark?
I’m pretty sure it was forza horizon,
Hope this helped
@@omeratif3965 Awesome thank you so much Omer. I have not played Forza but holding for Forza Motorsport 8 to give it a shot! Thanks!
For me the wheel is like $600 nzd but i think all wheel are way more expensivce as the t300rs is 1k
Are you being paid by Logitech? Have you compared it to T248 which is the same price range but miles better?
Debatable imho. The G line of Logitech wheels when properly dialed in offer a remarkably smooth and detailed Ffb. A bit less dampened than the belt drives and the wheels are "faster" for a similar level of force. I used to own a T300 still own a DFGT and a CSW v2.5. Properly dialed in, the DFGT offers an experience on par with a T300 imho. Obviously weaker but within the same ballpark.
@@Heldermaior lmao are you seriously comparing a t300 to a dfgt? its leagues ahead, belt driven, basically double the torque, way faster, way smoother and more detailed ffb and its way quieter. Dont get me wrong the dfgt is a great value wheel, but it just doesnt compare to the t300
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 I am saying that although better, it is not that big a difference yes. That is what I found having owned both of them. And a G27 for a brief period of time. Gear wheels are faster than equivalent belt driven wheels. That is one of the differences
Hey Amir! Could you elaborate? In what terms is T248 better than g923? I would be thankful since I am considering both products. Is the force feedback really that crucial? Which one would be better for novice simracing and which one for novice drifting experience? Thank you in advance! :)
Best budget wheel in the market, but definitely worth it if you can afford the extra 300$ for the Fanatec bundle.
For mee this wheel sux compare to any belt driven wheel, great stuff as always!!!
well... 90 bucks off ebay, so it shouldn't be too much buyer's remorse if I don't love it. fingers crossed, lol.
Buy a Moza R5 bundle for $500 and get direct drive performance. If you need console support buy a brooks ras1ution converter.
Had a G29 for exactly 1 year, and felt the need to upgrade to a T300 RS GT. At least it felt like an upgrade and honestly is better. Loved my G29, great build quality but the ability to change wheel rims on the T300 is just too good. Now all I need is to get the SF1000 Ferrari Wheel and I'm golden xD
You selling yours? If so how much
@@SnipingWatermelon nah mate, sold mine immediately after I got the T300, and honestly nowadays for the prices that you pay for a G29 you're better off buying a direct drive, Fanatec has a great bundle and it costs less than a G29 which is baffling
@LordVaderPOR what fantec is cheaper then the g29?
is it compatible with ps5
If you get the ps version
For the price I think the T300/TX are better options.
I don’t think it’s worth it if it was mid 2000s the controller is better. Maybe if you actually have a cockpit it’s better
Lol literally just thinking about buying this wheel since my g920 broke
G29 for 250€ or G923 for 265€ for the bundles which one would you chose?
923. If the difference is small go for the newer model. Normally the difference is much higher than that.
@@randomcallsign thanks
Where did you find G923 with that price ?
@@ravall3051 Cdiscount, France.
@@ravall3051 just looked again its now 330£ for the bundle.
It is when you get it for $100
How many times have you done this video? Lol 😂
yes
No it's not. Not with all the cheap DD offerings right now.
brake pedal is a joke
Give me T R U E F O R C E
CRAP THAT WILL FAIL AFTER WARRANTY!!! PURE JUNK!!!
People shouldn't be buying gear driven garbage brand new in 2023
Trying to buy my first wheel, can u elaborate?
Can you recommend what we should buy then ?
Useless ass reply if you don't point people towards any alternatives. You might as well comment "I just shit my pants during dinner"; what are we supposed to do with that knowledge?
No it's not
300 dollar for that crap. No lore logitech here.
Only GT7 has decent True force? Nah man. That's BS I'm sry
300 dollar for crap.
IT IS A RIPOFF!!! FAILS AFTER WARRANTY!!!!