Hahaha thanks :) I’m only a ‘new’ channel, just over a year old now. I’m delighted with the quality of the subscribers. I don’t need 100k subscribers :) this is a part time thing fir me and I’m loving it. Thanks for your kinds words. Come join the discord. It’s where the community really lives :)
This is exactly what somebody should respect in a review, especially if you're buying, well... Anything over 50? Brutal honesty and transparency without any bias besides experience and knowledge on the subject. Dude didn't bash it just bc he has a nice direct drive setup but wasn't swayed by corporal endorsement/bribery.
Great to see a review that isn’t just a rant about the price and goes into detail about the changes. I especially appreciated the advice on adjustments you can make on how Truforce responds to game audio. I bought one in advance of my XBox Series X. I’m sure its going to be good enough for using in between driving my real cars.
WOW! I'm only a small channel but i guess it doesn't matter whether 10 people or 10,000 people are watching. I'm trying to make the content as good as I can, so your feedback has made my day. Thanks so much
im pretty suprised that logitech gave a free wheel for review to a small youtuber tho i tought you would have like 100k subs because of ur editing and stuff hope u get viral some day bud :)
you sir, are the pinnacle of true journalism. thank you for taking the time and effort to really put out a fair and balanced review based on EXPERIENCE, something money can never buy!
Thanks kouki! Yeah it’s never going to get the same views as a day 1 review but hopefully the content will help people who genuinely are considering buying one rather than just informing the masses. Thanks for the comment!
@@LaurenceDusoswa this helped me figure out whether or not upgrade my g27 to the new one. Ive done some simple mods to mine and helped the pedals feel much better with some progressive springs i added. Plus your LUT file guide for AC really helped make my g27 feel precise. Too bad they didnt include the shifter in the bundle. That was a bad move by logitech especially while charging more than what they used to for more value.
I’ve been through 2 g29 wheels and both of them had bad rotary encoders but I had never heard of anyone else having an issue. I’m glad I’m not the only one who has had issue with them
Hahaha thanks :) I’m not chasing big numbers. I appreciate that my videos give value to those who watch them so that’s all that really matters :) the numbers will come :)
Wow this is probably one of the most thorough reviews I've seen on this wheel! You explained true force better than most other channels! Currently this and the tmx pro are both $250 on US amazon. At this price point, what are the pros and cons of each wheel and which would you recommend and why? I'd love to see a review from you comparing the two!
Thanks for the feedback :) I haven’t spent time recently with the tmx and I’ve never had one for review so I don’t feel like my opinion carries much weight. The Logitech pedals are very good for the price point. The tmx uses belts as well as gears and is less noisy than the Logitech. I would still go with the Logitech but again, that’s just a high level opinion and the lack of a clutch on the tmx is a deal breaker for me. When it comes to the t300, the ffb is far better than the g923 but the t3pa pedals aren’t as good as the g923 pedals.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks for replying! I forgot to mention that the tmx pro comes with the tp3a pedals. I've heard that those are slightly better both in feel and control considering the fact that the tp3a is 10 bit (giving you more resolution when applying the pedals) do you know if logitech g923 pedals are still 8bit? My main hesitations with the logitech are 1) loud clunkiness and notchiness might sound and feel too much like a toy, taking away from the immersion/ reduce the feel and your ability to control the car. I've driven my friends tmx wheel (15-20 mins so not that long) and I worry that the "smoothness" is something I'll miss / greatly notice by going with gear driven wheels. I guess I'm looking for something that has quick feed back, and something that I can use and immediately feel "yes this feels like a real car" kind of experience... Also I'm looking to use this with assetto corsa, project cars 2, and dirt rally so I don't know if they can take advantage of "true force" yet This was kind of alot, thanks in advance 😅
This review helped me decide If I should invest in Thrustmasters eco system or go with the good ol Logitech Wheel , and I just got a great bundle . A G923 with the H-Shifter , a Handbrake and a Wheelstand for 400$ . Everything with original packaging and receipts , bought 2 months ago . My first wheel was a G27 and It Made me Fell in love with SimRacing and SimDrifting . Can’t wait to get the stuff delivered and hop on Assetto Corsa again :)
It's a tough choice, yeah :) Whichever one you choose you will be able to enjoy sim racing again :) If you loved your G27, the G920 is just like an upgraded version.
So I went to buy the G29 but where I live, it was out of stock but the store said that I could get the G923 for the same price in a month. So basically I'm paying less for more😂.
@@Pulsed101 Well it turns out the G923 was out of stock just as the G29 came in stock. But I can still give you my opinion because they are practically the same without a close look. Wheel feels different and this first time I used a force feedback wheel so I was 7-8 seconds slower because I was scared that my arms would rip off my shoulders. But then after a couple of laps and races, I was in fact 4 seconds faster than on controller. The leather on the G29 feels better than the wheel in my car. The brake was not so good I kept going into the wall because I wasn't pressing hard enough but then after that I kept locking up because I was braking too much. Now I'm fine with the wheel.
I recently got mine new for $300 off of someone who just didn't want it after getting it as a gift. I'm pretty happy. I can resell it later for near the same price for when I'm ready for a DD rig
after using it for about a week i love this wheel but i wouldnt spend 400 on it. i got mine for about the same price as the g29 is going for so imo 100 percent worth it
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I feel similar to a large extent. But the dual clutch and the better brake might sway me. Realistically I’d buy a second hand, but better setup.
Thanks for the additional information! i just bought one and i waiting for it to arrive, im really happy with all the features and the build quality in general. The trustmaster Tr300 here in argentina cost almost the double of a logitech g923+ shifter, so it was really out of my budget, but im happy that the wheel is good enough for the use im wanting to give it.
You situation are not far from Brazil, thrustmaster here is also 2x the price, I boght the G923, waiting for it to arrive too. Did you liked your G923, after 2 months ? Be sincere please
@@raf.nogueira yes I really liked it, it gives very good information, the feedback is good, and feels smooth. In some games like Forza horizon 4, it's not that good. But in proyect cars 2 and grid (2019) feels incredible, it's really enjoyable.
I own a g920 and looked forward to the new model. Very disappointing that they didn't add support for a handbrake. I already upgraded the springs in my pedals so overall I'll have to move up to a Fanatec.
Just bought the G923 and it will be my first wheel I have ever used for racing games. I am super excited to try it out as I love playing Dirt 4/Rally, Truck Sim, and want to check out iracing and GT Sport. I will be using this between my PS5 and custom PC with a 3080, 10850k.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Loving it!! So glad I did not spend the extra money on a fanatec DD. I am more than satisfied as a novice racer. Exceeded my expectations. A lot of youtubers had me convinced I needed belt or DD, but the G923 is more than adequate for my needs. Great entry point.
well, after being bored with all other genres of games, i ended up ordering a g923, next level react gt lite cockpit and logitech shifter. i sense myself going down a rabbit hole lol. thanks for the honest review. i'm sure i'll be happy as this is my first setup
Just picked one up in a Black Friday deal for £260 (and the gear shifter for £30), seems much better value than when this first came out. Looking forward to trying it out!
Best review. Watched a lot of videos on this steering wheel and glad to finally come across someone who actually used it and gave in depth breakdown. Hearing how Logitech treated you really helped to show that Logitech are serious about their wheels and what sim racers think. Really exciting for the future. I am now sold on this steering wheel as my future 1st sim steering wheel thanks to you 😊😊 Now to save up😅
Yeah it was a very tempting review to release too early but I learned about things that other reviewers didn’t pick up on and got to use it and depend on it for my races so I’m very happy overall. Enjoy the wheel when you get it! Very exciting. I remember my first wheel.
I just ordered it right know, i love logitech and i had the old G25 for over 10 years without any problems. So it´s Logitech for me! I just can´t afford their top sim model, I would SO MUCH love that :(
Hey Laurence, thanks for the review! Do you have any noise issues with TrueForce enabled games? This is my first wheel set after almost 15 years - I'm basically a noob on newer generation models. I know geared wheels make noise but I have makes so much noise that it is almost impossible to play during night. Is this normal? I didn't notice it first because I was playing with headphones on.
It can make lots of noise yeah. What I used to do is turn down the kerb effects as they made the most noise. If you want a quieter wheel, you need something that’s not gear driven :(
Still using the same G27 iv'e used for a decade, looking for an upgrade, fanatec is to expensive for belt drive, and most direct drive is way to expensive. Time for logitech to produce a direct drive wheel, or at least a capable belt drive wheel.
Great review, clear, conscisce and answered my questions as virtually no one did a long term test on this. The launch price in the uk was £350 but has now reduced to £260. At this lower price point do you think this is a good first time entry level wheel and worth it over the g29 which is currently £180? I was thinking of combining this with the playseat challenge foldable cockpit. Thanks again for the great content.
Excellent choice. Yeah longer term reviews are important to me. You can’t get to know a product if you use it for a short period of time or in abnormal conditions. Thanks for the comment!
i purchessed this wheel new, its in the box it came in stored because of compatabilty issues back then, the wheel worked well with some of my games including drifting, sadly not all my sim games worked so i upgraded to csl elite, now its a spare wheel i will use if my csl breaks.
Perfect for the casual slim racer though as I did if you not in the need for the latest and best ffb then just get the 920 or 29 still perfectly fine and should be some price drops
ngl all the review got me leaning towards the t150 pro since the t300rs gt literally out of stock everywhere in my place but all the random reliability issues of the thrust master and came across a g923 deals without shifter for 340 definitely got me rethink of my decision
I can't see anyone being disappointed with this wheelbase and pedals to be honest. It's a great, honest, first setup and can serve you for many many years.
@@LaurenceDusoswa and funny enough the prices for g29 without shifter in where I lived was literally 25 cheaper than the g923 without shifter which makes the price difference debates became invalid
I'm done with Logitech myself. Started with a G25. Arguably their best iteration of the series, no real competition at the time. Gearbox broke quickly (but fixable). Died a noble death after ~7 years of use (lobsided steering thing and pedals spike...despite cleaning, the pedals ''broke'' after a day of use at best). Bought a G27. At the same time G910 keyboard, G502 mouse and G933 headset (back to those at end of post). G27 had pedal spike very early on and required cleaning every week (despite keeping them well covered). Wheel died starting with going lobsided then eventually stopped functioning alltogether. It lasted just over 2 years. Bought a G29. At least my G27 shifter worked (until that as good as died by not registering shifts). I actually liked the rubber thing in the pedals, of course nowhere near as good as load cells but much better than their old pedals. Sadly, the wheel lost it's centering and it was a few degrees off center after about a year of use. G933 started creaking after a few weeks of use. 2 of my friends had exactly the same issue. I moved country so couldn't get it replaced. Both my friends' replacements started to creak quickly, again. G910 whilst very nice, some of the key thingies broke off (they really are very thin). Recently, some keys are either not functioning or they recognize way too many clicks. Annoying. G502 no problems with and will buy the wireless replacement when needed. I've got mechanical sympathy, so it's not due to hard use or hitting things. The G923 is a sham. A rebranded G29 with a better spring. Bought a T300 RS with rubber mod which will arrive next week. Only for temporary use due to country I live in for the time being has bad internet and everythiing needs to be imported.
@@LaurenceDusoswa It's just a shame that apart from layout and a bit of rubber, the wheel hasn't changed since the G25...which of course at the time was ''top level''. The fact that they took sequential mode away from the gears is beyond me. Thrustmaster is a good alternative (for similar money) these days I reckon, and actual upgrades is another great reason to go with TM.
I have had my g27 wheel and shifter since 2012 without any problems yet. I have the inverted load cell pedal set and haven't had a problem with those either
I've been thinking that Logitech should up their game in simulation peripherals, especially sim-racing. Maybe make a Pro Series Driving Force wheel with swapable steering wheels, belt driven, and some add ons like handbrake.
Excellent and very thorough review, a lot of people will appreciate bringing up the rotary encoder. Overall logitech really put their soul into it, proper brake spring and faster ffb motors are definitely something which previous wheels lacked. G923 will definitely take small bites at the T300 but ONLY if the price drops...
Logitech is of great quality compared to others (hence the price forentrylevel gear, it's why we all MOD them when we start out lol, ) I've still got my old wheel from 2006 driving force wheel, they last for ever I also kept my g920 as if my TS XW plays up I know I've always got a good back up option that will always work!
Great review mate! IMHO, i was hoping the 923 would be a loadcell brake, its a $2 part, every other G series wheel has an aftermarket loadcell, its high time this was factory-supplied. I was curious if they were going to belt drive the G next wheel, but, not to be. And a magnet paddle-shift bracket, simple aftermarket add-ons, from the factory would be fantastic and little effect to the price point, yet a step towards adding better feel. If those few things were in it, it would easily justify the price point hke. That being said, its a step up, and not backwards, so there's that. Is it enough to replace my G920 for competition use? not really.
100% correct on all points dude. It would be relatively simple for sure. I just hope that they become a bit more active in sim racing. Surely they have to be working on other sim products too.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Agreed mate, however, thinking about it, you can't really put a loadcell in a set of pedals, mostly designed to fit under a drivers desk, lounge room, as in, you cant put 60kg of foot pressure in a set of pedals not bolted down in a rig, so i guess, there's that, being their target market. In saying that, I've not used the last 2 sets of logi pedals as i run aftermarket ones, but have enjoyed their lineage of racing wheels for ther relative quality and price point leather rims, decent amount of buttons, metal wheel rim, goof stock mountings, easy mode setup, and across the board compatibility with various titles. but, hall effect sensors, again, just little quality parts make a minimal price point, or at least, relevant to its new price point. As you mentioned, Logi could easily make a handbrake for the rally/drift guys too, as the shifter example sets. I'm really impressed you gave an honest drive of this wheel and pedals and gave a good relative review compared to your other higher-end spec kit. I'd like to think they should take a look at what existing logi sim drivers are cheaply adding to their wheels and make that factory parts, and even at this new price point, makes it easily worth it. even if logi themselves made these things as standalone option addon products, as higher-end wheels and pedals sets do. Again, great review mate! thumbs up. :-)
Thanks for the detailed feedback man! I think that all sim racing equipment deserves celebration. In fact, lower end gear usually has a bigger impact on people than high end gear. I want this channel to be inclusive. If I had more time and space I’d have a console setup too
@@LaurenceDusoswa Oh For sure mate!. Consoles do have a valid place in the culture of racing games, even if its mario kart, we all know what that is, and usually in casual conversations you'll always find someone who knows what gran turismo or forza is, so we can thank the console market for keeping sim racers supplied with sim gear. There was a time when it was only logi who were making sim gear (for consoles), and we didn't have all the fantastic options we do today. My first 'racing' console was a wheel sequential shifter and a pedal set plugged into a then current 'Colecovision' Console and the game 'Turbo', in the very, very 80's lol.
@@LaurenceDusoswa my first wheel was an 80 dollar one with 270° of rotation, and I credit that with being the reason I've been looking into a direct drive as soon as I can afford it, so you're spot on
Crazy how in this video he talks about how bad the price is and the competition is laughing. TM had a similar launch to the T248. Today I bought a G923 on eBay for $300. Which is about the average price of a used G29. And $200 less than the T300.
@@LaurenceDusoswa i have t300 and g29, i think t300 has very elastic ffb and doesnt make much sense, the g29 provides good ffb for the important parts of the corners to ffb information to me that makes sense, i think with this g923 i could create some good ffb settings but im not planning on buying one at the moment
@@jamesi2018 that’s great info. Yeah I think the t300 is capable of stronger ffb than the Logitech wheels but I do prefer the Logitech wheels in general.
@@LaurenceDusoswa that belt becomes slack too easily, they really need to have better quality materials in the wheel. when i first got t300 it felt just as direct as the logitech except it had a little bit more fidelity. this is because the gears in g29 create a gap as they turn, i.e. a small gap between the rotar and gears but when at the edges of the wheel while turning there is no gap and therefore no deadzone. this trueforce likely overcomes that weakness. the t300 lost its fidelity within 30 minutes of use
Man im hearing so much mixed reviews about the logitech wheels, some saying they break within a few months and others saying they last for more than 5 years
I love logitech because their products are amazing also they give me the chance to experience of driving simulation for low value as the covid19 is around job hours have been low it's perfect driving wheel for a driving rig too
Great review and would like to pick this up on a Black Friday sale. Logitech needs to make more leap in their next model to compete with Thrustmaster and Fanatec. Good entry level wheel but that’s. Also would love to see a handbrake but Logitech.
Greetings, thank you for the great review. As far as I can understand, if I buy this driving wheel, its recommended to upgrade the firmware at the first moment right? Can I upgrade the firmware straight from an xbox series or do I need to plug it on a PC with windows just for the upgrade? Do I need to have a windows lying around for any additional tweaking? Thank you!
I have the Logitech G923 and I have been having problems using it with different games which are supposedly supported. I made it work with Dirt Rally, but I haven't had any luck with Forza Horizon 3 and 4. I am about to install F1 2019, and I hope to have better luck.
Amazing video. Bought the G923 new for 270usd, I have no idea how. The store must've screwed up the price and perhaps wanted to drop the price on the G29 instead... Who knows.
Anyone think the G29 pedals are better with a rig though? Because you'll be able to press as hard as you want, as intended without the pedal base slipping across the floor? If I'm correct, the reason for the progressive spring in the brake pedal this time round was due to the consumer feedback from the G29 brake rubber stop pedal. Being the pedal base slipping across floors as a result of having to involve more pressure when applying the brake, due to the rubber stop (which I think with a rig it gives a more realistic breaking experience my theory is) in the G29 model. The progressive spring with the new model just provides a lighter resistance as I can only guess statistically most users have the pedal bases on their floors which means less chance of the pedal base sliding or moving across the floor or carpet or whatever, maybe? Therefore, as I have a rig to securely bolt the pedal base to, I propose maybe using the G29 pedal set with the G923 wheel for a more optimum experience if you have a rig ? Or do you think the progressive spring is just simply better, thoughts please?
@@LaurenceDusoswa @A Tribe Called Cars Cool, I just brought the G923 so shall happily embrace the progressive spring version, in good haste kind sir as well I may add! Although I would love the thrustmaster TG 2, but it's slightly more than double the price of the G923. But I'm just a bin man budget sim racer anyway, when compared to today's standards.
@@LaurenceDusoswa yeah I don't even know why people still buy it, the wheel itself is super tiny, the pedals are just complete garbage.. for $599 now people can get a whole direct drive from Moza set up with pedals that are load cell.
ah that is the terminology I was trying to think of. Arcade use compared to sim. I think I am looking more for arcade use, playing less complicated racing games like dirt 5. Thinking the T300 rs gt is a good spot.
I was dealing with the same drivers issues in project cars 2 this weekend. No matter what I did - I could never get the calibrate wheel function to work. I tried a bunch of stuff with no good results. Uninstalled ghub, instaled older versions of it. Unplugged and deleted devices out of registry, rebooted, plugged devices back in, etc. Maybe I didn't find the magic order of operations required to make this work. I installed the AMS2 demo, same deal. Also same engine and I guess same devs? I think I know where the problem lies....
I have both the G29 and G923, its $15 for the same Brake Spring to make the G29 Pedals same as G923 Not enough Games support TrueForce properly to justify the price difference
Is it worth upgrading from a G29/G920? No, that's why Logitech got the backslash. If they only increased the power by 50% or more, this could have been a meaningful upgrade.
Great review :-). Did you try it/hear anything about it with Automobilista 2? It’s not on Logitech’s website 8 month’s after AM2 was released, and it’s a game i’d like to start playing more. Thanks.
Hey man great review gonna be picking up one of there soon could you do me a favour though what handbrake are you using as I had one picked for the g920 but can't seen to find one for the g923
I returned this shitty thing, it did work on most games but due to some weird software bug in it the steering lock wasn't available. So I'm going for the well supported G920. Oh and trueforce isn't worth it.
Hey, sorry, only discovered your channel and this video now. Would you recommend this wheel as an entry level? I have never had a sim wheel before so if I buy this, it would be my first. I was looking at the thrustmaster T300 gt but can't find any stock, so this is the only one left price wise. Thanks for the great content as well
You’re very welcome. No need to apologise :) I like when people find/subscribe AFTER I’ve given them some value rather than just getting loads of subs from people who don’t care about the content ;) I definitely highly recommend the Logitech products. Pricing is somewhat high but Logitech wheel and pedals sets are a solid investment.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Hahah thanks for the quick response and definitely going to sub. Thanks for the advice. Will definitely go for it then. Will maybe upgrade to belt driven in year or so when they are more available. Thanks a lot, really appreciate it.
In project cars 2 on the ps4 it recognises the G923 wheel as the G29. Is there away around this? Also which is the better buy the G923 or the Thrustmaster T300 Rs GT? Great extended review.
@@LaurenceDusoswa id say get a T300 RS GT before any logitech products.. or the CSL ELITE. from fanatec. both are much better wheels.. i mean shit.. my t150 pro with an upgraded motor to the DC 775 motor made my T150 act like a T300.. force feedback wise atleast lol. way faster centering and shite
I'm kinda new to sim racing but after reading they changed the brake, I went for the G923 instead of G29. Love it. Except for the noise... Wish I went with the T300 simply because of that.
is this wheel really noisy as someone reports in reviews? Would you still advise to buy this over another entry level like thrustmaster T150, which seems far cheaper (170 vs 300€)?
@@LaurenceDusoswa i have the g29, got it like a month ago and if the progressive spring is avalibe i wanna try it, but i really really like the rubber brakes on the g29, for rallying ita very good but for formula type of races well not so much but i can make sensitivity settings
torn between buying this and thrustmaster tx leather edition, this wheel is good, but thrustmaster feels more stable and more better feedback, and also features addon wheels, primarily for me it would be the open wheel as i play f1 mostly. neverthless cannot wait to get a wheel start racing sim, spent too much time racing with a controller.
It's so jerky and clunky, you really have to fiddle with those settings all the time. Once you set it up to your liking it's not bad, it takes couple of days to figure it out.
Is there any vids I can watch to setup the wheel different like what u said in the video?like to not use the audio mode for the trueforce and use something else
most sim racing equipment reviewers use products for just a few hours. I replaced my regular sim gear for an extended period. It’s definitely a longer term review than most :)
So true! Wish reviewers regularly used for longer like you did before rushing out a “review.” There are so many things you can’t just pick up in a few hours.
That’s exactly how I feel. All my reviews are extended use. You need to live with the product as if you own it and it needs to take priority over all your own equipment, in my view. Otherwise you can’t truly look through the eyes of a prospective buyer. Don’t get me wrong, many reviewers are great at getting their info in a matter of hours but I try not to watch other reviews or even read the detailed specs of equipment before I am finalising my script.
I am about to buy one wheel next week... Since the T3000 is very hard to find, I am hesitating between the G923 and the TMX pro, I know most say the TMX pro is better than the G920-29 but what about the G923? And also I heard many complain about the TMX durability
@@backcountryadventure1813 plz cancel if possible. The g923 is an utterly horrible value. The t300 gt is hands down orders of magnitude superior for the same price and for 100$ more you can get the entry level csl elite combo which is in a different universe from the g series. The g29-923 r barely better than the t150 pro which is 150$ cheaper
gulfcoaster210 Well best buy delivered the package destroyed and I have footage so I took it back and they asked if I want another one I was no So I returned it In the near future I will pick up some thing maybe from fantastic or maybe theres a new release of thrust master or something who knows but it will be after holiday This year alone I’ve bought razer 17 pro 4k Switch v2 Preorderd quest 2 Xbox series c Playstaion 5 And new tv And accessories for all of them That’s enough I will do the wheel next year lol But it will be better wheel than this one This
The steering wheel on the grass was the prime selling point for me, bro it's a steering wheel on grass what else can you say😁
Hahaha 😂 not having a studio means that I need to be creative 😂
Time to drive the earth 😈
@@tjam. lool xD
@@LaurenceDusoswa that's beautiful mate
@@LaurenceDusoswa Studio is overrated, too many are using it now days.
why do you only have 4k subscribers? This content is genuinely top tier quality.
Hahaha thanks :) I’m only a ‘new’ channel, just over a year old now. I’m delighted with the quality of the subscribers. I don’t need 100k subscribers :) this is a part time thing fir me and I’m loving it. Thanks for your kinds words. Come join the discord. It’s where the community really lives :)
So happy you kept the long intro for this! Love it, great final review and think its a great upgrade from earlier models
Thanks Chris! Yeah I owed the product a proper review covering the important parts that everyone is wondering about :) cheers for the comment!
This is exactly what somebody should respect in a review, especially if you're buying, well... Anything over 50? Brutal honesty and transparency without any bias besides experience and knowledge on the subject. Dude didn't bash it just bc he has a nice direct drive setup but wasn't swayed by corporal endorsement/bribery.
haha thanks for the kind comment and I'm sorry for the delayed response. Glad it was informative!
I had the old one but I noticed an improvement in response. I like the wheel so really that is all that matters. I am no expert just like gaming
Exactly! Enjoy it man ❤️ there will always be better and worse out there but neither will guarantee more joy. Thanks for the comment :)
Great to see a review that isn’t just a rant about the price and goes into detail about the changes. I especially appreciated the advice on adjustments you can make on how Truforce responds to game audio. I bought one in advance of my XBox Series X. I’m sure its going to be good enough for using in between driving my real cars.
Thanks Roger, that was my goal here. It needs to be appreciated for what it is and I thoroughly enjoyed using it.
Waiting for Logitech to build a direct drive, and a set of super rigid load cell pedals.
oh man imagine... I'd love if they did. Imagine what that would do to the DD market :o
And a handbrake add on
I think you make the highest quality sim racing content on UA-cam...not sure why it has taken me so long to discover this channel
WOW! I'm only a small channel but i guess it doesn't matter whether 10 people or 10,000 people are watching. I'm trying to make the content as good as I can, so your feedback has made my day. Thanks so much
Laurence Dusoswa Yeah man, I don’t see any other sim UA-camrs with this MKBHD level production value
im pretty suprised that logitech gave a free wheel for review to a small youtuber
tho i tought you would have like 100k subs because of ur editing and stuff
hope u get viral some day bud :)
You and me both. Although I do have to return it. But they took a risk on me which is really great to see.
Great review! Covered all the important bits. Thanks to Logitech too for looking after LD
Cheers @Arcshaw! Again they read these comments so your comment means a lot to me :) glad you enjoyed the review :)
you sir, are the pinnacle of true journalism. thank you for taking the time and effort to really put out a fair and balanced review based on EXPERIENCE, something money can never buy!
Thanks kouki! Yeah it’s never going to get the same views as a day 1 review but hopefully the content will help people who genuinely are considering buying one rather than just informing the masses. Thanks for the comment!
@@LaurenceDusoswa this helped me figure out whether or not upgrade my g27 to the new one. Ive done some simple mods to mine and helped the pedals feel much better with some progressive springs i added. Plus your LUT file guide for AC really helped make my g27 feel precise. Too bad they didnt include the shifter in the bundle. That was a bad move by logitech especially while charging more than what they used to for more value.
I’ve been through 2 g29 wheels and both of them had bad rotary encoders but I had never heard of anyone else having an issue. I’m glad I’m not the only one who has had issue with them
I try to do as intensive a review as possible and find these things out :D
Just discovered your channel while looking into getting this wheel and this was an amazing review you deserve a lot more credit
Hahaha thanks :) I’m not chasing big numbers. I appreciate that my videos give value to those who watch them so that’s all that really matters :) the numbers will come :)
After this video I ended up buying one thank you
Nice review. I digged the overall presentation of the review, especially the outdoors b-roll footage of the wheels
haha thanks :) that's my 'thing' :p it's an easy way to identify my reviews
Brilliant, as usual, such clear concise information. Solid testing, covered everything brilliantly
Thank you good sir :) Cheers for taking the time to comment!
Subbed to the channel due to the great, well presented review. If all your videos are like this, your channel deserves to grow fast.
Thank you kindly James. Apologies for my delayed response :)
Wow this is probably one of the most thorough reviews I've seen on this wheel! You explained true force better than most other channels!
Currently this and the tmx pro are both $250 on US amazon.
At this price point, what are the pros and cons of each wheel and which would you recommend and why?
I'd love to see a review from you comparing the two!
Thanks for the feedback :) I haven’t spent time recently with the tmx and I’ve never had one for review so I don’t feel like my opinion carries much weight. The Logitech pedals are very good for the price point. The tmx uses belts as well as gears and is less noisy than the Logitech. I would still go with the Logitech but again, that’s just a high level opinion and the lack of a clutch on the tmx is a deal breaker for me. When it comes to the t300, the ffb is far better than the g923 but the t3pa pedals aren’t as good as the g923 pedals.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks for replying!
I forgot to mention that the tmx pro comes with the tp3a pedals. I've heard that those are slightly better both in feel and control considering the fact that the tp3a is 10 bit (giving you more resolution when applying the pedals) do you know if logitech g923 pedals are still 8bit?
My main hesitations with the logitech are
1) loud clunkiness and notchiness might sound and feel too much like a toy, taking away from the immersion/ reduce the feel and your ability to control the car.
I've driven my friends tmx wheel (15-20 mins so not that long) and I worry that the "smoothness" is something I'll miss / greatly notice by going with gear driven wheels.
I guess I'm looking for something that has quick feed back, and something that I can use and immediately feel "yes this feels like a real car" kind of experience... Also I'm looking to use this with assetto corsa, project cars 2, and dirt rally so I don't know if they can take advantage of "true force" yet
This was kind of alot, thanks in advance 😅
Bought it and so far enjoying it. I am addicted to it now
Haha nice :) enjoy ❤️
This review helped me decide If I should invest in Thrustmasters eco system or go with the good ol Logitech Wheel , and I just got a great bundle . A G923 with the H-Shifter , a Handbrake and a Wheelstand for 400$ . Everything with original packaging and receipts , bought 2 months ago . My first wheel was a G27 and It Made me Fell in love with SimRacing and SimDrifting . Can’t wait to get the stuff delivered and hop on Assetto Corsa again :)
It's a tough choice, yeah :) Whichever one you choose you will be able to enjoy sim racing again :) If you loved your G27, the G920 is just like an upgraded version.
I did the opposite 😳 I went with a t300 rs gt, upgradability was the decider for me, absolutely love it so far (:
Wat handbrake did u get
@@robbiesmith1549 a no brand EBay USB handbrake
I just bought a g293 as my first wheel I can’t wait to give it a go on my next day off from work
awesome!!!
@@LaurenceDusoswa your video was great to watch! Thank you
So I went to buy the G29 but where I live, it was out of stock but the store said that I could get the G923 for the same price in a month. So basically I'm paying less for more😂.
NICE!
What are your thoughts on the wheel?
@@Pulsed101 Well it turns out the G923 was out of stock just as the G29 came in stock. But I can still give you my opinion because they are practically the same without a close look. Wheel feels different and this first time I used a force feedback wheel so I was 7-8 seconds slower because I was scared that my arms would rip off my shoulders. But then after a couple of laps and races, I was in fact 4 seconds faster than on
controller. The leather on the G29 feels better than the wheel in my car. The brake was not so good
I kept going into the wall because I wasn't pressing hard enough but then after that I kept locking up because I was braking too much. Now I'm fine with the wheel.
@@alexandrinestephanus3486 Nice 🙂👍
I was waiting to see a unbiased review on the G923, I have been interested in getting into racing sims!
Great! Welcome to the addiction :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa 1 question, how do you install it, do you plug it into the pc or is there bluetooth
Really good stuff as always man!
Love the footage 😂
Hahaha that was some good racing!
Instant like for the Primera intro
Hahahaha it’s such a great mod ❤️
I recently got mine new for $300 off of someone who just didn't want it after getting it as a gift. I'm pretty happy. I can resell it later for near the same price for when I'm ready for a DD rig
Awesome!!
after using it for about a week i love this wheel but i wouldnt spend 400 on it. i got mine for about the same price as the g29 is going for so imo 100 percent worth it
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I feel similar to a large extent. But the dual clutch and the better brake might sway me. Realistically I’d buy a second hand, but better setup.
Just got this wheel for my XBOX Series X while playing Forza Horizon 4 and despite it’s steep price tag, it KICKS ASS!
It's a good piece of kit. I like it :)
yeah its good wheel but makes too much noise.
Thanks for the additional information! i just bought one and i waiting for it to arrive, im really happy with all the features and the build quality in general. The trustmaster Tr300 here in argentina cost almost the double of a logitech g923+ shifter, so it was really out of my budget, but im happy that the wheel is good enough for the use im wanting to give it.
That's good news. enjoy
You situation are not far from Brazil, thrustmaster here is also 2x the price, I boght the G923, waiting for it to arrive too. Did you liked your G923, after 2 months ? Be sincere please
@@raf.nogueira yes I really liked it, it gives very good information, the feedback is good, and feels smooth. In some games like Forza horizon 4, it's not that good. But in proyect cars 2 and grid (2019) feels incredible, it's really enjoyable.
@@khalilveronessi4819 Thank you very much my friend 🙏🏻
I own a g920 and looked forward to the new model. Very disappointing that they didn't add support for a handbrake. I already upgraded the springs in my pedals so overall I'll have to move up to a Fanatec.
It’s a real pity we get forced out of the Logitech brand as almost everyone has fond memories of their g wheels.
Just ordered one, great review, thanks for making it.
Enjoy!!!
Just bought the G923 and it will be my first wheel I have ever used for racing games. I am super excited to try it out as I love playing Dirt 4/Rally, Truck Sim, and want to check out iracing and GT Sport. I will be using this between my PS5 and custom PC with a 3080, 10850k.
sorry for the delayed response! How are you enjoying it so far?
@@LaurenceDusoswa Loving it!! So glad I did not spend the extra money on a fanatec DD. I am more than satisfied as a novice racer. Exceeded my expectations. A lot of youtubers had me convinced I needed belt or DD, but the G923 is more than adequate for my needs. Great entry point.
well, after being bored with all other genres of games, i ended up ordering a g923, next level react gt lite cockpit and logitech shifter. i sense myself going down a rabbit hole lol. thanks for the honest review. i'm sure i'll be happy as this is my first setup
Hahaha you’ll love it!
Just wait till you you strap some bass shakers to your chair !
I would go buy this right now if it was $300. $400 is just crazy
Yeah I hear you. Maybe Black Friday? Not sure. It’s priced high for sure.
It's like 450$ or more in my coutry. That's 180$ more than a new G29/G920. The choice is obvious.
Picked up one for £130 luckily as pc owner couldn't get to work on their pc.
Just picked one up in a Black Friday deal for £260 (and the gear shifter for £30), seems much better value than when this first came out. Looking forward to trying it out!
Epic! That’s far better value!
I am looking for a wheel, I have never tried sim racing, so this looks like a great entry point.
It is. They pop up second hand for cheap but also keep an eye on black friday sales, prime day, etc.
Best review. Watched a lot of videos on this steering wheel and glad to finally come across someone who actually used it and gave in depth breakdown. Hearing how Logitech treated you really helped to show that Logitech are serious about their wheels and what sim racers think. Really exciting for the future.
I am now sold on this steering wheel as my future 1st sim steering wheel thanks to you 😊😊 Now to save up😅
Yeah it was a very tempting review to release too early but I learned about things that other reviewers didn’t pick up on and got to use it and depend on it for my races so I’m very happy overall. Enjoy the wheel when you get it! Very exciting. I remember my first wheel.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you man and greetings from South Africa 😊
@@Humshkin we’ve got some people from South Africa in our discord server :)
I just ordered it right know, i love logitech and i had the old G25 for over 10 years without any problems. So it´s Logitech for me! I just can´t afford their top sim model, I would SO MUCH love that :(
Yeah enjoy what you can afford! It’s a great setup still. I enjoyed it
Hey Laurence, thanks for the review! Do you have any noise issues with TrueForce enabled games? This is my first wheel set after almost 15 years - I'm basically a noob on newer generation models. I know geared wheels make noise but I have makes so much noise that it is almost impossible to play during night. Is this normal? I didn't notice it first because I was playing with headphones on.
It can make lots of noise yeah. What I used to do is turn down the kerb effects as they made the most noise. If you want a quieter wheel, you need something that’s not gear driven :(
Still using the same G27 iv'e used for a decade, looking for an upgrade, fanatec is to expensive for belt drive, and most direct drive is way to expensive. Time for logitech to produce a direct drive wheel, or at least a capable belt drive wheel.
Wouldn’t that be amazing. I wonder if they ever will. Do they care enough about sim racing?
@@LaurenceDusoswa I hope so, the great thing with logitech is there durable reliable and work a treat. ;)
Great review, clear, conscisce and answered my questions as virtually no one did a long term test on this. The launch price in the uk was £350 but has now reduced to £260. At this lower price point do you think this is a good first time entry level wheel and worth it over the g29 which is currently £180? I was thinking of combining this with the playseat challenge foldable cockpit. Thanks again for the great content.
Excellent choice. Yeah longer term reviews are important to me. You can’t get to know a product if you use it for a short period of time or in abnormal conditions.
Thanks for the comment!
i purchessed this wheel new, its in the box it came in stored because of compatabilty issues back then, the wheel worked well with some of my games including drifting, sadly not all my sim games worked so i upgraded to csl elite, now its a spare wheel i will use if my csl breaks.
It’s a nice spare to have 😅
You just made them one more sale. Thank you.
glad I gave you the info to make a decision! Thanks for the comment!
Best review i`ve seen so far
wow thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
I got the ocd- That plastic film left on the center of the wheel drove me crazy
Hahaha that’s a mark of respect for Logitech who sent me this wheel. I want to return it to them as they gave it to me :)
Perfect for the casual slim racer though as I did if you not in the need for the latest and best ffb then just get the 920 or 29 still perfectly fine and should be some price drops
Agreed. The previous g wheels are great value and lots of fun for all types of racing and simulation
ngl all the review got me leaning towards the t150 pro since the t300rs gt literally out of stock everywhere in my place but all the random reliability issues of the thrust master and came across a g923 deals without shifter for 340 definitely got me rethink of my decision
I can't see anyone being disappointed with this wheelbase and pedals to be honest. It's a great, honest, first setup and can serve you for many many years.
@@LaurenceDusoswa and funny enough the prices for g29 without shifter in where I lived was literally 25 cheaper than the g923 without shifter which makes the price difference debates became invalid
D-shaped wheels should be a second wheel type of thing. Odd they went with a d-shaped wheel when drifting is so popular.
Great video as usual.
Yeah it’s only a small D though… giggidy…
I’m thinking on buying g923 so I’ve been watching a lot of video
It’s a good purchase in my opinion. It’s easy to sell too when you want to upgrade
I'm done with Logitech myself.
Started with a G25. Arguably their best iteration of the series, no real competition at the time. Gearbox broke quickly (but fixable). Died a noble death after ~7 years of use (lobsided steering thing and pedals spike...despite cleaning, the pedals ''broke'' after a day of use at best).
Bought a G27. At the same time G910 keyboard, G502 mouse and G933 headset (back to those at end of post). G27 had pedal spike very early on and required cleaning every week (despite keeping them well covered). Wheel died starting with going lobsided then eventually stopped functioning alltogether. It lasted just over 2 years.
Bought a G29. At least my G27 shifter worked (until that as good as died by not registering shifts). I actually liked the rubber thing in the pedals, of course nowhere near as good as load cells but much better than their old pedals. Sadly, the wheel lost it's centering and it was a few degrees off center after about a year of use.
G933 started creaking after a few weeks of use. 2 of my friends had exactly the same issue. I moved country so couldn't get it replaced. Both my friends' replacements started to creak quickly, again. G910 whilst very nice, some of the key thingies broke off (they really are very thin). Recently, some keys are either not functioning or they recognize way too many clicks. Annoying. G502 no problems with and will buy the wireless replacement when needed.
I've got mechanical sympathy, so it's not due to hard use or hitting things.
The G923 is a sham. A rebranded G29 with a better spring.
Bought a T300 RS with rubber mod which will arrive next week. Only for temporary use due to country I live in for the time being has bad internet and everythiing needs to be imported.
Sorry to hear that. You’ve had a tough run of luck!
@@LaurenceDusoswa It's just a shame that apart from layout and a bit of rubber, the wheel hasn't changed since the G25...which of course at the time was ''top level''. The fact that they took sequential mode away from the gears is beyond me.
Thrustmaster is a good alternative (for similar money) these days I reckon, and actual upgrades is another great reason to go with TM.
I have had my g27 wheel and shifter since 2012 without any problems yet. I have the inverted load cell pedal set and haven't had a problem with those either
I've been thinking that Logitech should up their game in simulation peripherals, especially sim-racing. Maybe make a Pro Series Driving Force wheel with swapable steering wheels, belt driven, and some add ons like handbrake.
Yeah you're right. They really need to step up, otherwise they will become irrelevant soon
Excellent and very thorough review, a lot of people will appreciate bringing up the rotary encoder.
Overall logitech really put their soul into it, proper brake spring and faster ffb motors are definitely something which previous wheels lacked. G923 will definitely take small bites at the T300 but ONLY if the price drops...
Thank you very much! I think it’s all pretty exciting and hope we don’t have to wait another 5 years for their next move 😂😂😂
you didn’t have to put it outside on the grass for that one shot 😭
I totally did! It's my thing :p
@@LaurenceDusoswa love the dedication
congrats! well made video. subscribed .
Thanks so much ❤️
Logitech is of great quality compared to others (hence the price forentrylevel gear, it's why we all MOD them when we start out lol, ) I've still got my old wheel from 2006 driving force wheel, they last for ever I also kept my g920 as if my TS XW plays up I know I've always got a good back up option that will always work!
Very similar to my upgrade path :) I still have my g27 “just in case”
Great review!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it
im buying one of these second hand tomorrow, I'm fucking excited to start playing some sims without a gamepad!
WOOOO!!!! They're a great wheelbase for sure
@@LaurenceDusoswa Unfortunately that seller never replied after his first reply. Had to settle for a g920 and shifter. More than happy
You deserve my sub, great video :)
You’re very welcome. Comments like yours make the hard work worth it ❤️
Great review mate!
IMHO, i was hoping the 923 would be a loadcell brake, its a $2 part, every other G series wheel has an aftermarket loadcell, its high time this was factory-supplied.
I was curious if they were going to belt drive the G next wheel, but, not to be. And a magnet paddle-shift bracket, simple aftermarket add-ons, from the factory would be fantastic and little effect to the price point, yet a step towards adding better feel.
If those few things were in it, it would easily justify the price point hke.
That being said, its a step up, and not backwards, so there's that.
Is it enough to replace my G920 for competition use? not really.
100% correct on all points dude. It would be relatively simple for sure. I just hope that they become a bit more active in sim racing. Surely they have to be working on other sim products too.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Agreed mate, however, thinking about it, you can't really put a loadcell in a set of pedals, mostly designed to fit under a drivers desk, lounge room, as in, you cant put 60kg of foot pressure in a set of pedals not bolted down in a rig, so i guess, there's that, being their target market.
In saying that, I've not used the last 2 sets of logi pedals as i run aftermarket ones, but have enjoyed their lineage of racing wheels for ther relative quality and price point
leather rims, decent amount of buttons, metal wheel rim, goof stock mountings, easy mode setup, and across the board compatibility with various titles.
but, hall effect sensors, again, just little quality parts make a minimal price point, or at least, relevant to its new price point.
As you mentioned, Logi could easily make a handbrake for the rally/drift guys too, as the shifter example sets.
I'm really impressed you gave an honest drive of this wheel and pedals and gave a good relative review compared to your other higher-end spec kit.
I'd like to think they should take a look at what existing logi sim drivers are cheaply adding to their wheels and make that factory parts, and even at this new price point, makes it easily worth it.
even if logi themselves made these things as standalone option addon products, as higher-end wheels and pedals sets do.
Again, great review mate! thumbs up. :-)
Thanks for the detailed feedback man! I think that all sim racing equipment deserves celebration. In fact, lower end gear usually has a bigger impact on people than high end gear. I want this channel to be inclusive. If I had more time and space I’d have a console setup too
@@LaurenceDusoswa
Oh For sure mate!.
Consoles do have a valid place in the culture of racing games, even if its mario kart, we all know what that is, and usually in casual conversations you'll always find someone who knows what gran turismo or forza is, so we can thank the console market for keeping sim racers supplied with sim gear.
There was a time when it was only logi who were making sim gear (for consoles), and we didn't have all the fantastic options we do today.
My first 'racing' console was a wheel sequential shifter and a pedal set plugged into a then current 'Colecovision' Console and the game 'Turbo', in the very, very 80's lol.
@@LaurenceDusoswa my first wheel was an 80 dollar one with 270° of rotation, and I credit that with being the reason I've been looking into a direct drive as soon as I can afford it, so you're spot on
Crazy how in this video he talks about how bad the price is and the competition is laughing. TM had a similar launch to the T248. Today I bought a G923 on eBay for $300. Which is about the average price of a used G29. And $200 less than the T300.
Yeah it seems it's pretty easy now to find a deal. When I released this video, the product was only just out and there were no bargains.
i had a shot in a shop and it felt pretty real to me
Yep. It feels good. I really enjoy it
@@LaurenceDusoswa i have t300 and g29, i think t300 has very elastic ffb and doesnt make much sense, the g29 provides good ffb for the important parts of the corners to ffb information to me that makes sense, i think with this g923 i could create some good ffb settings but im not planning on buying one at the moment
@@jamesi2018 that’s great info. Yeah I think the t300 is capable of stronger ffb than the Logitech wheels but I do prefer the Logitech wheels in general.
@@LaurenceDusoswa that belt becomes slack too easily, they really need to have better quality materials in the wheel. when i first got t300 it felt just as direct as the logitech except it had a little bit more fidelity. this is because the gears in g29 create a gap as they turn, i.e. a small gap between the rotar and gears but when at the edges of the wheel while turning there is no gap and therefore no deadzone. this trueforce likely overcomes that weakness. the t300 lost its fidelity within 30 minutes of use
Man im hearing so much mixed reviews about the logitech wheels, some saying they break within a few months and others saying they last for more than 5 years
I love logitech because their products are amazing also they give me the chance to experience of driving simulation for low value as the covid19 is around job hours have been low it's perfect driving wheel for a driving rig too
I completely agree. Logitech gives people access to sim racing
Great review and would like to pick this up on a Black Friday sale. Logitech needs to make more leap in their next model to compete with Thrustmaster and Fanatec. Good entry level wheel but that’s. Also would love to see a handbrake but Logitech.
I agree with everything you say
Greetings, thank you for the great review.
As far as I can understand, if I buy this driving wheel, its recommended to upgrade the firmware at the first moment right?
Can I upgrade the firmware straight from an xbox series or do I need to plug it on a PC with windows just for the upgrade?
Do I need to have a windows lying around for any additional tweaking?
Thank you!
Honestly I don’t know about console requirements for upgrading firmware. I presume you need to do it with a pc
Nice review, well done. Subscribed.
Woooo! Welcome to the mad house :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa lol! Thank you! Catching up on your videos at the moment whilst working :)
Nice :) I have some really cool ones coming in the next weeks and months
@@LaurenceDusoswa looking forward
I have the Logitech G923 and I have been having problems using it with different games which are supposedly supported. I made it work with Dirt Rally, but I haven't had any luck with Forza Horizon 3 and 4. I am about to install F1 2019, and I hope to have better luck.
You need to manually assign controls in some games. Read all the comments in this video, I’m pretty sure Forza is covered.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thanks a lot! I will scande comments to find a solution! Great day!
Amazing video. Bought the G923 new for 270usd, I have no idea how. The store must've screwed up the price and perhaps wanted to drop the price on the G29 instead... Who knows.
Wow!!!! Nice 😍
Nice channel mate im hooked
Glad you’re enjoying it :) welcome to the madness 😂
epic intro! and subed
Hahaha thanks :) it’s a fun intro. Thanks for the sub :) plenty more videos like this in my library :)
Anyone think the G29 pedals are better with a rig though? Because you'll be able to press as hard as you want, as intended without the pedal base slipping across the floor?
If I'm correct, the reason for the progressive spring in the brake pedal this time round was due to the consumer feedback from the G29 brake rubber stop pedal. Being the pedal base slipping across floors as a result of having to involve more pressure when applying the brake, due to the rubber stop (which I think with a rig it gives a more realistic breaking experience my theory is) in the G29 model. The progressive spring with the new model just provides a lighter resistance as I can only guess statistically most users have the pedal bases on their floors which means less chance of the pedal base sliding or moving across the floor or carpet or whatever, maybe?
Therefore, as I have a rig to securely bolt the pedal base to, I propose maybe using the G29 pedal set with the G923 wheel for a more optimum experience if you have a rig ? Or do you think the progressive spring is just simply better, thoughts please?
All pedals are better when they can’t move, and for me, a bit of progressive weight in the pedal is important
@@LaurenceDusoswa @A Tribe Called Cars Cool, I just brought the G923 so shall happily embrace the progressive spring version, in good haste kind sir as well I may add!
Although I would love the thrustmaster TG 2, but it's slightly more than double the price of the G923. But I'm just a bin man budget sim racer anyway, when compared to today's standards.
Thanks for your review
You’re very welcome :)
I’ll give you my 12 minutes review.. I bought it, started rattling like a crazy snake. Did a 5 minute google search and I returned it to the store.
They make a lot of noise sometimes. Every review mentions it
@@LaurenceDusoswa yeah I don't even know why people still buy it, the wheel itself is super tiny, the pedals are just complete garbage.. for $599 now people can get a whole direct drive from Moza set up with pedals that are load cell.
ah that is the terminology I was trying to think of. Arcade use compared to sim. I think I am looking more for arcade use, playing less complicated racing games like dirt 5. Thinking the T300 rs gt is a good spot.
Both are fine for arcade stuff too. If you can afford the t300 Rs gt or if it’s a similar price, get the thrustmaster.
I was dealing with the same drivers issues in project cars 2 this weekend.
No matter what I did - I could never get the calibrate wheel function to work.
I tried a bunch of stuff with no good results. Uninstalled ghub, instaled older versions of it. Unplugged and deleted devices out of registry, rebooted, plugged devices back in, etc.
Maybe I didn't find the magic order of operations required to make this work.
I installed the AMS2 demo, same deal. Also same engine and I guess same devs? I think I know where the problem lies....
Not sure tbh :( sucks to hear you have issues
@laurence...I'm purchasing my first steering wheel and as you said, the marketing hooked me instantly. Is this the best unit out there at this price?
At €400 it’s a bit expensive but at €300 or close to that price, I do think it’s a great purchase
I have both the G29 and G923, its $15 for the same Brake Spring to make the G29 Pedals same as G923
Not enough Games support TrueForce properly to justify the price difference
Is it worth upgrading from a G29/G920?
No, that's why Logitech got the backslash. If they only increased the power by 50% or more, this could have been a meaningful upgrade.
Probably not worth upgrading as such, no. They did have the opportunity to make it something that people would love to upgrade to.
Great review :-). Did you try it/hear anything about it with Automobilista 2? It’s not on Logitech’s website 8 month’s after AM2 was released, and it’s a game i’d like to start playing more. Thanks.
I don’t know, to be honest! Sorry!
Hey man great review gonna be picking up one of there soon could you do me a favour though what handbrake are you using as I had one picked for the g920 but can't seen to find one for the g923
I use a fanatec handbrake on PC, using the USB adapter. On console you can use a handbrake using a drivehub system i think
The main problem is you can’t upgrade this well if I buy a thrust master I can always upgrade piece by piece
On PC you can upgrade whatever you like. Pedals, shifters, etc are all USB so you can mix and match whatever you like.
I returned this shitty thing, it did work on most games but due to some weird software bug in it the steering lock wasn't available. So I'm going for the well supported G920. Oh and trueforce isn't worth it.
thanks for sharing your experience. Sucks that it worked out badly for you :(
Hey, sorry, only discovered your channel and this video now.
Would you recommend this wheel as an entry level? I have never had a sim wheel before so if I buy this, it would be my first. I was looking at the thrustmaster T300 gt but can't find any stock, so this is the only one left price wise.
Thanks for the great content as well
You’re very welcome. No need to apologise :) I like when people find/subscribe AFTER I’ve given them some value rather than just getting loads of subs from people who don’t care about the content ;)
I definitely highly recommend the Logitech products. Pricing is somewhat high but Logitech wheel and pedals sets are a solid investment.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Hahah thanks for the quick response and definitely going to sub.
Thanks for the advice. Will definitely go for it then. Will maybe upgrade to belt driven in year or so when they are more available.
Thanks a lot, really appreciate it.
In project cars 2 on the ps4 it recognises the G923 wheel as the G29. Is there away around this? Also which is the better buy the G923 or the Thrustmaster T300 Rs GT? Great extended review.
If they're the same price, get the T300RS GT package ;) As for the ps4 PC2 issue, I'm not sure
At the end of the day, the G920 is still the sweet spot for entry-level. This isn't worth the price.
I have to agree that the price of the G923 is too high
@@LaurenceDusoswa id say get a T300 RS GT before any logitech products.. or the CSL ELITE. from fanatec. both are much better wheels.. i mean shit.. my t150 pro with an upgraded motor to the DC 775 motor made my T150 act like a T300.. force feedback wise atleast lol. way faster centering and shite
@@MassBred88
I understand the argument but the price difference is too big for someone that's never experienced a wheel to pay
@straatkever thats why you get the t300 and sell the pedals and upgrade to the tlcm from thrustmaster
Great video👍
I wish i could find stock at a reasonable price where i live
Ah that’s a pity. Where do you live?
I'm kinda new to sim racing but after reading they changed the brake, I went for the G923 instead of G29. Love it. Except for the noise... Wish I went with the T300 simply because of that.
It’s noisy yeah unfortunately :(
is this wheel really noisy as someone reports in reviews? Would you still advise to buy this over another entry level like thrustmaster T150, which seems far cheaper (170 vs 300€)?
It would be my personal choice, the Logitech. It is noisy though!
I cant stress enough how big a change that spring upgrade is. If you have a previous wheel, get that progressive pitch spring.
Yeah it’s massive. I wonder if Logitech will be selling it on its own. It’s should slot straight into the older pedals
if you find a link for the spring will you share it?
Sure, but I’d be surprised if they will sell it on their own. Other companies may sell similar though
@@LaurenceDusoswa i have the g29, got it like a month ago and if the progressive spring is avalibe i wanna try it, but i really really like the rubber brakes on the g29, for rallying ita very good but for formula type of races well not so much but i can make sensitivity settings
really nice review... u just made a man buy a new toy :P
hahaha enjoy it :)
another one bites the dust eyeyeye
torn between buying this and thrustmaster tx leather edition, this wheel is good, but thrustmaster feels more stable and more better feedback, and also features addon wheels, primarily for me it would be the open wheel as i play f1 mostly. neverthless cannot wait to get a wheel start racing sim, spent too much time racing with a controller.
Sounds like you want the thrustmaster :)
It's so jerky and clunky, you really have to fiddle with those settings all the time. Once you set it up to your liking it's not bad, it takes couple of days to figure it out.
It’s worth figuring out what you like yeah. Once set up correctly, they’re an excellent value wheelbase
Is there any vids I can watch to setup the wheel different like what u said in the video?like to not use the audio mode for the trueforce and use something else
I’m not sure, to be honest. Check out boosted media’s review as it goes into great detail
I have no idea why im watching this. I already own that wheel…
All that grassy b-roll 😅
One month later is not an “extended review,” thats a regular review! LOL
most sim racing equipment reviewers use products for just a few hours. I replaced my regular sim gear for an extended period. It’s definitely a longer term review than most :)
So true! Wish reviewers regularly used for longer like you did before rushing out a “review.” There are so many things you can’t just pick up in a few hours.
That’s exactly how I feel. All my reviews are extended use. You need to live with the product as if you own it and it needs to take priority over all your own equipment, in my view. Otherwise you can’t truly look through the eyes of a prospective buyer. Don’t get me wrong, many reviewers are great at getting their info in a matter of hours but I try not to watch other reviews or even read the detailed specs of equipment before I am finalising my script.
@@LaurenceDusoswa it's cool, because your reviews only get better from that and more independent👍
Nice review!
Thank you very much! Thanks for the comment
@@LaurenceDusoswa My pleasure friend!
I am about to buy one wheel next week... Since the T3000 is very hard to find, I am hesitating between the G923 and the TMX pro, I know most say the TMX pro is better than the G920-29 but what about the G923? And also I heard many complain about the TMX durability
I don’t have experience with the TMX. You will be happy with the g923. It can be noisy, that’s all. But it will last forever :)
Gotta say then telling modders to make their product better is an L. That is always an L. Just release a better product.
yep. Easier said than done I guess. I'd love to see more from Logitech.
Hey, I've been having issues with my games not being able to be controlled using the on wheel buttons. do you have any idea how to sort it out?
there's a pinned comment which deals with such issues. Have you tried manually mapping the buttons?
@@LaurenceDusoswa yes. That seems to work with the actual driving part but i have to navigate menus with the keyboard and mouse
I just ordered mine from best buy after watching this
Enjoy! These wheels give many years of gaming fun :)
Laurence Dusoswa
I hope I dont buy her and just make her collect dust 💨
@@backcountryadventure1813 plz cancel if possible. The g923 is an utterly horrible value. The t300 gt is hands down orders of magnitude superior for the same price and for 100$ more you can get the entry level csl elite combo which is in a different universe from the g series. The g29-923 r barely better than the t150 pro which is 150$ cheaper
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Well best buy delivered the package destroyed and I have footage so I took it back and they asked if I want another one I was no
So I returned it
In the near future I will pick up some thing maybe from fantastic or maybe theres a new release of thrust master or something who knows but it will be after holiday
This year alone I’ve bought razer 17 pro 4k
Switch v2
Preorderd quest 2
Xbox series c
Playstaion 5
And new tv
And accessories for all of them
That’s enough
I will do the wheel next year lol
But it will be better wheel than this one
This
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I did
Just bought a used g923 for $170 usd 🔥