Stop Using Plywood To Make Cabinets!

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  • @brettdrought6181
    @brettdrought6181 9 місяців тому +36

    I am a newcomer to your videos. This is the first one that I have watched and I find it so refreshing to see someone put craftsmanship into a project rather than assembly line construction. You explain every reason why you do something a particular way and it makes so much sense. I think I have found a new favorite woodworking channel.

  • @SuperBoppy
    @SuperBoppy 9 місяців тому +55

    Just checked prices at Home Depot. A 1 x 8 x 8 common pine board costs $17.33. Figuring 20% waste in machining the boards into your cabinet project, the pine costs $4.40 per SF. A sheet of 3/4" pine sanded plywood at Home Depot costs $51.78, or, figuring 10% waste (waste could actually be close to 0% if you dimension your cabinets in a way to eliminate waste), costs $1.78 per SF. This is not to mention all the additional time (and tools) needed to get the pine boards into a place where they can form the cabinet parts. You are looking at around 3 times the cost building the cabinets out of solid pine as opposed to using plywood. And thats for common pine, which will have a ton of knots in it. Bump that up to select pine and the costs will be astronomical.
    If you want to make your cabinets out of solid pine, great, but don't say that you saved all this money over using plywood - it's just not so.

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +10

      And the whole reason cabinets and other wood furniture is made with plywood or MDF as the core is because of the price and their stability in varying humidity conditions. That pine, especially the doors, is going to warp. But he did help by finishing the wood inside and out. And does good work. I just wouldn't have chosen pine. And the door center panel need to float in the rails and stiles for expansion.

    • @SuperBoppy
      @SuperBoppy 9 місяців тому +2

      @@steadyeddie7453 Righteo.

    • @johnburton2338
      @johnburton2338 8 місяців тому +4

      @@steadyeddie7453 Have made cabinets both ways. I do kitchen type cabinets from plywood for efficiency. |I make furniture cabinets from solid wood for satisfaction doing it as a high-end product. Have had a problem with using solid maple for a fairly small cabinet with the wood warping after it was finished. And that wood was well aged so it shouldn't have had that much moisture content. Grrrr.

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 8 місяців тому +2

      @@johnburton2338 I agree with everything you said. My biggest learning curve was not the machining of the wood products, it is knowing which wood to choose for a particular project. Knowing how that wood is going to expand and contract. I used to glue up solid everything I built. No longer. But basically long thin wood like for rails and styles that are secured on the ends only I go with very well seasoned wood to prevent warp, curling. etc. Drawers are always baltic birch sides w/ ply bottoms. Cabinet sides will be furniture grade ply or MDF laminated with a beautiful veneer. Guaranteed flat for years. Solid maple is beautiful wood but the hard stuff is extrememly dense. I always take small bites to avoid the heat and stress. And when I plane rough sawn to thickness I do it over a few days to let it relieve stresses overnight.

    • @Deja117
      @Deja117 21 день тому +1

      Exactly! I've been trying to revamp my space lately, and I'm planning to shove a table in with some shelves and drawer space to work on projects.
      I can do the table, complete with legs, trim pieces, and getting it delivered, all for around £60 and one day of work, I'll still have plenty left over for the shelves too (but I'm lazy, so I won't do them same day).
      The only downside is it won't look the best, so I'll need to spend 20-30 bucks more on some veneer to finish it off. But that still beats sitting there for a week or two glueing boards together, having an uneven wood grain, and just wasting time on something that I'm making only for myself. Plus, I live in an apartment, so it's a little hard to get all those tools in and keep the place clean if I was to do it this way, and like you said, it's way more expensive.

  • @acrocha1222
    @acrocha1222 9 місяців тому +72

    OMG Best Video Ever! Finally someone explains the steps to using solid wood for cabinets without glossing over too much and at the same time keeping the whole build simple and achievable for the average Joe! Bravo. Btw I really enjoy how you make your workshop look classy and functional!

    • @ScottWalshWoodworking
      @ScottWalshWoodworking  9 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the kind words!

    • @jenniepost7837
      @jenniepost7837 9 місяців тому +3

      Will you share the brand and color of stain please? Thanks.

    • @inmyimage1081
      @inmyimage1081 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jenniepost7837You need to tag him in your comment if you want to have any chance of him seeing it given it’s a response to someone’s comment. You really would be better off posting it as an original comment of your own though as someone else might know the answer, possibly based on finishes he has generally used in the past.

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 4 місяці тому

      @@inmyimage1081I actually did ask myself also. But no answer yet.

    • @inmyimage1081
      @inmyimage1081 4 місяці тому

      @@angellas.1314 Not sure the specifics you asked since my comment wasn’t in response to anything you asked, but if you check out the wood whisperer’s channel, he has several videos about different finishes. He rarely uses stain though so if you specifically wanted stain info you won’t find answers there but his finishes videos are still well worth watching. For what it’s worth, generally when I’ve seen people using stain, they generally have said that brands really don’t matter much, you just need to make sure you know how you can use oil based products with water/solvent based products IF you want to use one for stain and the other for a topcoat. The easiest takeaway is to use water/solvent based topcoats over water/solvent based stains or oil over oil.

  • @brokenglass849
    @brokenglass849 9 місяців тому +296

    For the average guy, this is the kind of video that is the most useful. Most of us have a limited assortment of wood working tools, limited space and are left to work with poorer quality wood. Thanks for the great tips and showing how to do some woodworking without 25K worth of state of the art equipment in a three car garage LOL.

    • @jameshuggins4300
      @jameshuggins4300 9 місяців тому +25

      Yeah I suppose I might be deranged or cheap, but I love pine. I like the challenge of taking something cheap or looked down on and turning it into something nice.

    • @contestwill1556
      @contestwill1556 9 місяців тому +9

      yeah the thing I hate about working with pine is I always manage to drop it or whack it on something denting the hell out of it

    • @Arterexius
      @Arterexius 9 місяців тому +4

      @@contestwill1556 That can at least be avoided by learning to be careful. The think I hate the most is all those damn knots in the wood from old branches. They can be pretty, but they're a b*tch to work with

    • @shawnhowell156
      @shawnhowell156 9 місяців тому +32

      Yeah like having a joiner, a 12 or 14 inch planer, or that expensive dowel jig, not to mention that really nice table saw and router table. I forgot to mention the shoulder plane that even he said was expensive. Most people have a jobsite table saw, chop saw or regular circular saw for the average guy! And I guarantee you that it's ever bit of 25K worth of tools he's using!

    • @brokenglass849
      @brokenglass849 9 місяців тому

      LOL I just got done working on a pine project, and had to fill in some dings. I wondered how much damage was done to that panel he dropped. A smashed corner is the worst.@@contestwill1556

  • @saliyalokeshwara
    @saliyalokeshwara 9 місяців тому +27

    This has to be one of your best videos. I’ve been following you for quite a while and I really appreciate how you teach in a different manner. It’s actually really refreshing to learn things rather than hearing the same mantra

  • @pibblesnbits
    @pibblesnbits 8 місяців тому +15

    These are far nicer than most household cabinets that I have seen. Great work! Love it!

  • @froste.9863
    @froste.9863 9 місяців тому +7

    From my 15 years of experience in cabinet making, it’s way easier to completely assemble your cabinets, hang doors and mount hardware, while still on your bench. When it’s time to hang cabinets, pop doors off, hang your boxes then just snap doors onto hinge plates. It saves you from having to mess around with clamps, and measuring for hinge plates in awkward positions. To each their own. Good work.

  • @RobertJBallantyne
    @RobertJBallantyne 2 місяці тому +2

    I really enjoyed seeing you create this. The workmanship is excellent, the advanced planning for the various steps is informative, and the result is the traditional design that I like and so seldom see these days. I appreciate the list of tools, parts, etc. in the details included in the ‘more’ text beneath the video. I’m impressed by the thought that went into the video production - it is tutorial on how to produce a fine UA-cam episode. Well done!

  • @spkay31
    @spkay31 9 місяців тому +5

    When you just "make my own shelf pin hole jig" and you crank something out that is both fully functional and versatile aligning in multiple scenarios, you know this is not your first carpentry project. Nice work and nice demonstration of being a thoughtful self-sufficient woodworker. Now just finding the right place to store the jig for future use.... but I digress.

  • @jonnybritnorth7966
    @jonnybritnorth7966 9 місяців тому +15

    love it! I have a forest of pine. I was toying with the idea of making kitchen cabinets entirely from pine from the forest. Now I know it will be doable and look great. Have sawmill, will saw! Thankyou you saved me a TON of cash in plywood casings. great video

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 4 місяці тому

      Have you made the cabinets? Will they support a quartz counter top?

    • @Possimpablee
      @Possimpablee Місяць тому

      Are you kidding me? Why would pine be weaker than mdf o ldf cabinets? If your house is built with pine why couldnt it support a counter top 😂?​@@angellas.1314

  • @QuintenLansu
    @QuintenLansu 9 місяців тому +9

    It's fantastic how you go over each step in such detail, and point out the mistakes you have *prevented*! And it must be said, the end result looks amazing!!

  • @u2bist
    @u2bist 9 місяців тому +60

    Having grown up with plywood being cheaper than solid lumber, the new paradigm is weird to me. But making panels out of pine is actually really fun. I've been doing it using a biscuit joiner for years and years. Two new things you taught me in this video: the I/O trick (one of those "why didn't I think of that?" ideas) and doing a quick hand planing to clean up unevenness in the joints. I've always just sanded, but hand planing seems like a time saver. Great video!

    • @lavransmathiesen9099
      @lavransmathiesen9099 9 місяців тому +7

      It's only cheaper if your time has no value.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 9 місяців тому +4

      @@lavransmathiesen9099 Really the cheapest plywood is 30 dollars a sheet. There is never a need that you should have to have high grade plywood for cabinets. A simple quick sand on a large belt sander machine and a spray on the inside is really all you need.
      Those people who would rather spend 80 dolllars a sheet for sanded plywood for something that is not going to be seen is beyond me.

    • @lavransmathiesen9099
      @lavransmathiesen9099 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@kameljoe21 well- by the time you run it through the wide belt, get it in a spray booth, seal, sand, and finish coat (not to mention paying for the finish and sandpaper), even $110/sheet prefin maple is cheaper than a shop-grade plywood. There is no $30/sheet ply available in Seattle. Even the MDF is $35/sheet or more.
      Now, if it's the pine option, then the cost for that here is $12.72/board for 1x6, making it $114.48 for 32 square feet (equal to a sheet of plywood).
      It's way more fun to build with solid stock, though. Just not cheaper than plywood.

    • @Ashitaka1110
      @Ashitaka1110 9 місяців тому +3

      I honestly don't know what he's talking about. Cabinet grade plywood is about $65 for a full sheet where I'm at. Those S4S pine boards are like ten bucks a pop at the same store for an 8ft long, 4.5 inch wide one, and they aren't flat and have loose knots and sap pockets etc.

    • @fishhuntadventure
      @fishhuntadventure 8 місяців тому

      @@lavransmathiesen9099
      You are entirely correct!
      With the exception of certain work the $35-$40 1/2” ‘sande’ plywood at homerdespot (maybe more $ now?) is fantastic for carcass and face frame construction. Solid wood is for furniture and trim imho, or when you require the esthetic.
      Probably you’re thinking same, but I’d have a plywood carcass ready for five minutes of assembly before getting boards prepped to drill for dowels. And I’d never dowel a carcass or door stiles and rails when other methods would do it in seconds while being just as strong or stronger.

  • @jonathanzj620
    @jonathanzj620 9 місяців тому +31

    Actual woodworking tips and not just more UA-camr BS. Another banger from Scotty B Walsh

  • @КириллКузьменков-г9и
    @КириллКузьменков-г9и 8 місяців тому +2

    Definitely one of the funniest and revolutionary carpenters on youtube still able to gain as much views on the old topic like cabinet! Yours is posh!!!! sharp jokes and relaxing approach - super!

  • @michaeldoto4673
    @michaeldoto4673 9 місяців тому +5

    That beaded shiplap is stunning! I’m a huge fan of how beautiful aged pine looks.

  • @howardsmith5474
    @howardsmith5474 9 місяців тому +17

    Tip since you use it elsewhere - I have discovered that putting a piece of painters tape on my finished piece and then marking layouts on that, instead of the piece (like you did for hinges) is faster than erasing layout lines

  • @e-vd
    @e-vd 8 місяців тому +2

    I've been thinking about making cabinets out of edge-jointed, solid wood for a while now. Seeing this video has revived my motivation to give it a shot. Thanks, Scott Walsh! 👍🏻

  • @LLOR
    @LLOR 9 місяців тому +10

    You always take the time and effort to make all your projects beautiful no matter what materials you use. Looks super professional

  • @gregtaylor3432
    @gregtaylor3432 9 місяців тому +107

    FWIW: Pegboard cut into strips makes a good positioning jig for shelf pins

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 8 місяців тому +1

      If you don't care about the standard 32mm spacing. Jigs aren't all that expensive.

    • @gregtaylor3432
      @gregtaylor3432 8 місяців тому +5

      @@kwilliams2239 The pegboard I used had 1" spacing: 32mm is a little more than 1- 1/4". As long as the spacing is consistent (IE don't mix 1" and 32mm) I don't think it matters?

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 8 місяців тому +1

      @@gregtaylor3432 Depending on the application, maybe. Standards are there for a reason. Templates can he had for $10. For $10, there is no reason not to use the standard spacing and setbacks.

    • @disco_falcon1895
      @disco_falcon1895 8 місяців тому +6

      If I recall correctly, the 32mm standard was created because that was as close as whoever came up with it could get the heads of the pin drilling machine. Sometimes (not to say frequently) the reason for the standard isn't a grand master plan, it's some practical limitation to somebody long ago.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 8 місяців тому +1

      @@disco_falcon1895 OK, Some say that the standard rail gauge is 4' 8-1/2", which has been used for hundreds of years, has it's history (arguably) going back to the Roman's chariots. It doesn't really matter how it got here, it's not called the "Standard Rail Gauge" for nothing.
      If you want to use standard hardware, use the standards. Now, why are there both 1/4" and 5mm holes?😁

  • @nathanielkswas
    @nathanielkswas Місяць тому

    That shelf pin jig is brilliant. Love the use of the plunge router and collar.

  • @JasonWWallace
    @JasonWWallace 9 місяців тому +4

    Just found this channel thanks to the magic of the algorithm. Thanks UA-cam!! Great channel. Very nice sound and video quality.
    Also, never would have thought to make panels out of pine to build cabinets instead of ply. GENIUS!

  • @FracturedNinja
    @FracturedNinja 8 місяців тому +1

    I recently started a project building custom shelving in my walk in closet and when I was pricing wood sanded plywood was cheaper than similar pine in my area (Nashville TN). Especially when you take into account the time savings associated with the plywood vs glue ups etc. And when using plywood no cupping issues etc.

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful job Scott!
    And always a good thing to see the dowelmax get a workout!
    Speaking of which, for future reference, you can you use your dowelmax to make a shelf pin jig and have very accurately spaced holes.
    Catch you on the next one!

  • @JamesStripling
    @JamesStripling 9 місяців тому +37

    I will never stop using plywood. And I would use it over pine any day of the week because it's stronger, less prone to warping, and I can get a selection of veneers to match the doors and drawer fronts. I prefer oak for doors and drawer fronts for its looks and durability. Pine is too soft to take the abuse of a kitchen cabinet door or drawer front.
    Cheers.

    • @Ogilla
      @Ogilla 8 місяців тому +1

      Exactly, pine is fucking trash lol. It's soft, fragile, get's scratched or dented easily, doesn't stain or paint well, etc.

    • @CharlieGroh
      @CharlieGroh 7 місяців тому +4

      Not to mention the ungodley amount of time he's spending!!!

    • @johnhogan3810
      @johnhogan3810 7 місяців тому +1

      At least look at the price of hard maple. Many times I have been able to save money verses clear pine. It is way more durable and can look amazing.

    • @deltasquared7777
      @deltasquared7777 7 місяців тому +1

      Home depot stocks various widths of birch at relatively reasonable prices that are really good for small solid cabinet door fronts and for stiles&rails for the larger doors with use of thin plywood sheathing insetted for the panels. I still like pine for cabinet sides, again with plywood sheathing in a rabbet for cabinet backs

    • @lonewolftech
      @lonewolftech 4 місяці тому

      The fuck do you guys get this ignorance from? Plywood is never going to be as superior to even cheap garbage solid wood… you’re fucking stupid to think like this!

  • @gideonkroll5573
    @gideonkroll5573 9 місяців тому +1

    Ever since I got into doing some furniture making, I don’t know why more beginners use pine? It’s cheap, it is soft but cheap! Great way to practice. I love the back panel btw!

  • @tonnyvi
    @tonnyvi 9 місяців тому +3

    Great video! Everything is to the point, I’m a professional carpenter and this is how we do the high end cabinets for those multi million dollar homes, no plywood just hardwood (white oak), what a good job man, keep it up!

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 4 місяці тому +1

      Would these pine cabinets be good enough for a kitchen?

    • @tonnyvi
      @tonnyvi 4 місяці тому

      @@angellas.1314 yes they are

  • @matthysloedolff
    @matthysloedolff 9 місяців тому +3

    Those cabinets look really nice 👌 seems very approachable for an average person with not too many tools in their arsenal. I like those panels on the inside of the cabinets.
    Some may say these are too nice for a workshop; however, I also like having nice-looking cabinets in my work area. So much so that I have had people remark that my workshop looks more and more like a kitchen every time they see it.
    Thanks for the video, Scott!

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 4 місяці тому

      And why not be in a nice environment day in and day out. It sure helps the spirit and mind.

  • @jeffpicken5057
    @jeffpicken5057 3 місяці тому

    Loved your mini planer sled trick to remove the cup from your panel. I need to lock that one away in memory for later use. I also really liked what you did with the bead and miter joints on your rails and stiles. Another trick I need to lock away. Thanks.

  • @CastorBate
    @CastorBate 9 місяців тому

    Have to say, this is the first video I watched from you, and it definitely has the most comedic value than any other woodworking/how-to/DYI/etc. I have watched😄 Also it feels very down to earth type of doing. Very good👍🏼

  • @Ekuahx
    @Ekuahx 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic! Pre glued pine boards is basically the only readily available lumber where I live, except for construction lumber.

  • @RichardRecupero
    @RichardRecupero 9 місяців тому +1

    First time watching your content. Can’t say I’ll make cabinets this way but I’m blown away with what you can do in a small area. Like wow.

  • @JesterSpeed3
    @JesterSpeed3 9 місяців тому +13

    Awesome to see a Canadian woodworking YT channel doing great content.

    • @uneartheros
      @uneartheros 9 місяців тому +1

      No offense to Scott…but…Rob Cosman?

    • @JASinIL2006
      @JASinIL2006 9 місяців тому

      Canadians who are good at woodworking? Who would have thought? Wood is so rare in Canada… 😂😂

    • @PeterSnowden-q9c
      @PeterSnowden-q9c 9 місяців тому +3

      Canadians also invented the Robertson screwdriver and screws.

  • @RachWagner
    @RachWagner 9 місяців тому +2

    Man, Sundays are my favourite. All my woodworking UA-camrs post videos. Great vid! You are absolutely the best for entertainment and engagement. Love your stuff

  • @jeffpicken5057
    @jeffpicken5057 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting dowel jig. I’m going to look into that. That said, I’ve never understood why people use sooo much glue to fasten boards together. All that squeezeout is just waste, creates extra work to clean up, and creates stain and topcoat issues. Additionally, putting glue on the dowels, which are really just small tenons, creates even more glueing issues. Just put glue in the holes/morteses and the dowels/tenons will force the glue *into* the whole instead of being rubbed *off of* the dowel as it’s inserted into the whole. In 20 years of woodworking I have never had a joint fail with the amount of glue I use. The Rockler silicone glue brush does a perfect job of applying just the amount of glue needed *on one side of the board*. Anyone that’s telling you to apply glue to both boards or so there’s a bunch of squeezeout has a glue sponsorship.

  • @SteveM0732
    @SteveM0732 7 місяців тому +1

    In my area (Oregon) pine seems to cost as much as oak or maple. The cheap woods are big leaf maple, alder, and poplar. Seems like this would work just fine with any of those woods as well.

  • @luftstolle
    @luftstolle 8 місяців тому

    This looks insane! So much work! If just one person built a machine that can do that instead, all of humanity would take advantage and nobody would ever have to do this manually again.

  • @Septicwoundz
    @Septicwoundz 7 місяців тому

    The sliding, sliding compound miter saw is just insane.. excellent content sir!

  • @nickkk420
    @nickkk420 8 місяців тому

    I know you keep saying they're "just shop cabinets" but so you're aware, I have 50 year old cedar cabinets in my kitchen which I absolutely adore and yours are infinitely better, congrats, subbed

  • @zxborg9681
    @zxborg9681 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice work. About 30 years ago I built a double dresser/cabinet piece from similar pine and used dowels everywhere like you did. It has survived three moves and is still holding strong, so I think your cabinets should hold up fine. Always enjoy watching your work.

  • @NickJames-t1u
    @NickJames-t1u Місяць тому

    Love your 'panel cutter'. A good upgrade on Norm's original which I have to replace after 15 years of service.

  • @Mondkuss_by_DS
    @Mondkuss_by_DS Місяць тому

    That "lazy planer sled" tip is golden. Instant Like for it.
    Are you a brand ambassador for King Canada? Lotsa King stuff you have there. It's so refreshing to see a maker who doesn't have a Sawstop. 👍

  • @crankstonshnord6591
    @crankstonshnord6591 7 місяців тому +2

    What kind of finish did you use? It looks really nice!

  • @anthonyseiver7000
    @anthonyseiver7000 9 місяців тому +5

    Dowelling frame and panel door is a great alternative to mortise and tenon joints for shop projects.

  • @glennlopez6772
    @glennlopez6772 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video!
    Is this pine wood treated for repelling termites?

  • @sapulpaorganics5402
    @sapulpaorganics5402 20 днів тому

    VERY nice build and I really like how you did the corners for the doors. I have never seem that method and will try it.
    Also like your choices of music!!

  • @deltasquared7777
    @deltasquared7777 7 місяців тому +1

    I find that a curved tip dental syringe is super for dispensing glue precisely and controllably where it is needed in the amount required. It is easy to fill and to cap up with a toothpick after dispensing the glue.... Dental syringes are very inexpensive and can be used disposably when you are not going to use them again for a long time. They are particularly useful for injecting glue under loose portions of veneer when repairing furniture.

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis 9 місяців тому +1

    Very nice! Great video, concise, many tips and--above all--practical all the way through.
    My only gripe is the handles: too modern looking for a traditional/rustic design. I guess, since these are intended for a workshop they may be preferred on reasons of practicality.
    One last thing: this was strangely relaxing for carpentry video which are usually very highly strung. I don't know why most carpentry videos are done that way but they definitely don't have to be as this one clearly shows!

  • @amaresch66
    @amaresch66 9 місяців тому +2

    The algorithm led me to your channel. I like your choice and reasoning for what you made. The pine looks nice and warm and the shiplap adds some understated elegance. Subscribed.

  • @Jakes2hot
    @Jakes2hot 4 місяці тому

    Can we just appreciate how you casually use a crosscut sled with the workpiece and fence on the front of the sled 👏🏽 I’ll assume this is for cutting wider boards without have to have a sled you need a forklift to move. Bravo and thanks for adding to my repertoire of jigs. PS. Not finsh vid yet, just had to mention before I forget 😂

  • @carlkidd752
    @carlkidd752 9 місяців тому +1

    Really nice-looking cabinets. I do not begin to have any of your shop tools, but the video was still fun and instructive. My last project was making a 4 shelf stand for holding my game consoles, CD player and the inevitable clutter with Purple Heartwood.

  • @EttVenterPhoto
    @EttVenterPhoto 6 місяців тому

    Hey dude, I only discovered your videos a week ago, and I just wanted to say that I love your vibe! You're fun to watch!

  • @k.b.woodworker3250
    @k.b.woodworker3250 3 місяці тому

    Your photography is amazing. A work of art. Great cabinet. Love it about the pine.

  • @kwilliams2239
    @kwilliams2239 9 місяців тому +23

    Plywood is expensive, sure, but where do you get pine cheaper?

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +6

      And the price of clear pine makes plywood an easy choice.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 9 місяців тому +4

      @@steadyeddie7453 I've found red oak cheaper than clear pine. Crap pine is more expensive than ply, and a lot harder to work with.
      Now, if the comparison is to Baltic birch? Well, you're way richer than I. I'd rather use walnut.😵

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kwilliams2239 Agree with you on the cost of red oak vs clear pine. Knotty pine isn't worth the frustration. Too many problems. But I am a snob for the Baltic Birch. Zero voids, zero knots, stays flat, machines easily. All the drawers I make are BB, along with many of the jigs over the years. Expensive, yes. But I wait for Rockler to have a sale then head to my new Fairfax, Va store to avoid the shipping.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@steadyeddie7453 was at Woodcraft this afternoon. A 2'x4' sheet of 3/4" *American* birch was $100. $400 a sheet?! For American?!
      I bought some American Birch from Rockler a while back (don't get there often). It wasn't nearly as expensive as the Baltic but it had voids in it. Sheesh.
      Might just as well stick with box store hardwood ply. Just remember not to sand the picture of wood off it.

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +2

      @@kwilliams2239 I would guess that the American birch you are referring to is Appleply. I have yet to try it. From what I was told, when Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of BB skyrocketed. My local H.D. sometimes has decent hardwood ply, depending on where they get it. But make no mistake, it is never the quality of BB.

  • @ytbillybob
    @ytbillybob 9 місяців тому +1

    Dude! You're on your way to a million subscribers. Keep up the good work.

  • @jamessukup
    @jamessukup 8 місяців тому

    Just Wow, first of all you make fantastic videos. Just a pleasure to watch. It makes these projects just seem so approachable and fun. Second of all, the Cabinets look fantastic.

  • @DeSalvoLaw
    @DeSalvoLaw 9 місяців тому +4

    Is it really cheaper to use pine boards in materials cost?
    And when you factor in the time for joining boards...
    I like a back to square my cabinets.
    And I am a dowel convert. I used to try to build everything with pocket screws, but I like my dowel plus glue results much better.

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +1

      If you like dowels then try biscuits. A Porter Cable biscuit jointer costs about the same as the Dowelmax jig. And biscuits are 1000% easier to install. Dowels have to be dead nuts on with their mating holes. Biscuit slots allow for some movement for perfect alignment.

    • @ryanpetermorris
      @ryanpetermorris 8 місяців тому +1

      The wood might be a little cheaper but doubt that the saving compensates for the added time. First time I've seen this channel, video was good but yet another UA-camr that doesn't outline costs when making claims about savings 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @jasonshumake777
      @jasonshumake777 Місяць тому

      @@steadyeddie7453biscuits don’t add to the strength they just help alignment. Dowels make it stronger

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 Місяць тому

      @@jasonshumake777 Biscuits absolutely add strength to a joint. Yes, dowels can be stronger than biscuits depending on the stress angles on the joint, but biscuits are not just for alignment. And actually because the slots for biscuits are larger than the biscuit itself, alignment is not perfect. You still must tweak the joint into perfect position during assembly.

    • @jasonshumake777
      @jasonshumake777 Місяць тому

      @@steadyeddie7453 there are plenty of videos where they test biscuit joints and they are the weakest, with the exception of just butt joint.

  • @bryanrocker5033
    @bryanrocker5033 9 місяців тому +1

    If you want to try something different, I made drawers (6) by taking a 2x4x8 cutting into the proper lenghts, then cutting them down to 1/2" and using the left over piece for the bottom. Quick and fast and they hold heavy food items, and have for years. I attached them to full pull out drawer guides.

    • @ScottWalshWoodworking
      @ScottWalshWoodworking  9 місяців тому +2

      I've actually made drawers like this! Cheapest drawer ever! 😂

  • @jestork1
    @jestork1 8 місяців тому +1

    Fabulous work. The cabinets are better made and look good enough for kitchen cabinets. Nothing like solid wood construction.

  • @SherwoodBotsford
    @SherwoodBotsford 8 місяців тому

    One issue with pine and spruce however is that it doesn't take stain evenly. I solved this for one project by taking a can of dye based wood stain, and mixing it with equal volume varnish. In my case both were water based. Then applied a zillion coats, very lightly sanding with 600 grit wet sand paper between coats. The win was that with water based stain, I could put a coat on every 30 minutes. Using the paper wet, kept the dust down. Even so, I set up two benches -- one to sand on, and one to stain on.

  • @xXVintersorgXx
    @xXVintersorgXx 8 місяців тому +1

    finishing the inside of the cabinets is actually a good idea even though its a shop piece.. if you finish the outside and not the inside is possible to get massive cupping or twisting due to different moisture absorption rates.

  • @Ceen328
    @Ceen328 9 місяців тому +1

    Glad more people come around to use pine. Esp with lumber prices as they are. Sure you can dent pine with a fingernail, BUT, how often do you run around and try to damage your cabinets? I just made modern style doors out of pine, to freshen up my grandma's old kitchen. Added an off white stain and a small vertical router line. Some modern door handels, a bit of a round over and the kitchen looks as good as new_ish.

  • @woodcraftloop
    @woodcraftloop 4 місяці тому +5

    Now count the money you spent as time and material expenses and you'll quickly realize that you can get plywood for same amount, get a better material and save the your time.
    If your panels curve post glueing, then the material used wasn't dry enough and are likely to crack and delaminate later.
    But I think you know all that already :) .

  • @rockshot100
    @rockshot100 8 місяців тому

    First time I have ever seen you and I will be making mine the same way. to copy is flattery, so they say. I don't have space for much wood working and this doesn't require that many.
    I really like how you did everything.
    But as a youtube commenter I have to pick about the finish. Pine bleeds like crazy so the only thing that will keep these from getting brown orange, is to seal them with shellac, or shellac based primer ("Kilz Original", and some other one I can't pronounce or spell). Do NOT worry and waste your time what it looks like, just be sure to cover it all. Even if you are going to paint these, the sap will bleed right through your paint if not sealed.
    You might have used a clear shellac so just to warn others about it. Thanks and subscribed. I was going to ask if you can do the same thing for base cabinets but you just answered that. Thanks again.

  • @Hengry-hn7rb
    @Hengry-hn7rb 9 місяців тому

    Wow Scott’s woodwork shop has really grown. I remember when he was just getting started with used machinery.

  • @micmaxian
    @micmaxian 9 місяців тому +1

    Nailed it! Thanks for using dowels for the cabinets too, I have a cabinet plan I want to build and was unsure of the joinery method to use, this locked in dowels as the winner. Great video Scott

    • @steadyeddie7453
      @steadyeddie7453 9 місяців тому +1

      Before you go buy that Dowelmax, consider biscuits, also called a plate jointer. A little less expensive and perfect set up alignment is not necessary. Dowels and their mating holes have to be dead nuts on. Okay if you are doing a production run and have a jig. Biscuits allow for a little lateral movement when assembling the pieces.

    • @micmaxian
      @micmaxian 9 місяців тому

      I have the Jessem jig and have used it on a handful of panel glue ups so far, good alignment everytime, but I do agree it is likely less forgiving than biscuits.@@steadyeddie7453

  • @hdwoodshop
    @hdwoodshop 9 місяців тому +7

    I think all the Canadians are in cahoots on promoting the DowellMax.
    Great cabinets, scott! Look great.

    • @DamianDArienzo
      @DamianDArienzo 9 місяців тому

      A great Australian invention/company :)

    • @skampp
      @skampp 9 місяців тому +1

      Also of the Tim Horton's (which I do order down here in South Carolina).

  • @searchmanager9372
    @searchmanager9372 Місяць тому

    I really like the sold wood panels. However how are you leaving room for expansion? Are you leaving space inside the door panels? The end project looks great. Thanks for the video.

  • @shawnmurray7232
    @shawnmurray7232 9 місяців тому +12

    Save the real wood for the face frames, doors, & drawers. The reason that plywood is used, is it resists warping a bit more than solid wood, it's stronger overall, allowing for use of thinner & cheaper carcass material. It's a HUGE time saver, no glue-up of multiple boards to get the right size & no waiting for glue to set - just cut to size, sand, finish, and assemble - YES, I put finish before assembly. Plywood is also typically cheaper per board foot (prices will vary wherever you live so always shop around), costing me about $5/bf locally for Baltic Birch ($61.74 for 5ftx5ft sheet of 12mm / $92.37 for 5ftx5ft sheet of 18mm) and that is with 1 cut for transport, and including sales tax. There are only 11 species & thicknesses of lumber at my local 'hardwood' lumber yard that are cheaper... knotty pine (4/4, 5/4 & 8/4), knotty alder (4/4 & 8/4), poplar (4/4, 5/4, 6/4, & 8/4) & basswood (4/4 & 8/4). Most are only a few cents per board foot cheaper, with the exception of knotty pine being as little as $3.21/bf for 8/4 & $3.84/bf for 4/4 or 5/4.

    • @DaleDix
      @DaleDix 9 місяців тому +3

      Do you understand why he's doing it this way? It's on purpose.

  • @dont_wanna_tell
    @dont_wanna_tell 18 днів тому

    Finally some dowel love on UA-cam. Nice!

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 7 місяців тому +1

    The video is very interesting. Nice cabinets.
    Must be hard to work with the ceiling so low and those dark green walls, so dark in there. If the walls were whitish or beige or something...

  • @robthewaywardwoodworker9956
    @robthewaywardwoodworker9956 9 місяців тому +6

    Those jack mitres are sweet. Well done, boy!

  • @colemine7008
    @colemine7008 7 місяців тому

    I really like the use of solid pine. The more I use plywood the more I dislike it. This was a great video. I don't know how I missed it for that last two months. I wonder what else I have missed.

  • @bill4123
    @bill4123 9 місяців тому

    I made a pin jig very similar to yours years ago and color coded the corners so I could remember which way it needed to be oriented... For the same reasons you mentioned needing to remember the orientation.

  • @SolarTara
    @SolarTara 7 місяців тому +1

    Love watching Canadian content.
    You're awesome! Also what is that finish, it's gorgeous?!

  • @brucesearl4407
    @brucesearl4407 9 місяців тому +5

    Pine has never looked better! Great video and great work creating a beautiful set of cabs for your shop.

  • @bramweinreder2346
    @bramweinreder2346 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm actually using pine for a piece of furniture right now. Still cladding it with thin plywood though because it finishes better.

  • @C.S.Henderson
    @C.S.Henderson 8 місяців тому

    First video of yours I have seen, subscribed. Love the detailed step by step instructions and craftmanship

  • @eitantal726
    @eitantal726 9 місяців тому +1

    Remember: clamping with too much pressure will cause cupping. Use a ruler to check if there's bowing. If there is, reduce pressure on the clamps until it goes away

  • @jgalt1981
    @jgalt1981 9 місяців тому

    Those cabinets are clean and solid. Love this Scott !

  • @ronmurphy9819
    @ronmurphy9819 9 місяців тому

    This is the first one of your videos I’ve seen. I plan on a lot more because I’m very impressed by how you do things. Thanks for the inspiration and the education!

  • @ImB4k4
    @ImB4k4 9 місяців тому +5

    Solid is cheaper than ply now? What a weird world. I like to use French cleats to install stuff like this -- no helper stand needed, and you get the leveling out of the way before the cabinet's even on the wall.

    • @lonewolftech
      @lonewolftech 4 місяці тому

      I can buy rough cut lumber half the price of plywood and all it needs it ran though the jointer and planer and it’s some of the best wood you can buy. Plywood is straight trash for everything it being cheap and fast.

  • @Grzsn_goes_brrr
    @Grzsn_goes_brrr 8 місяців тому

    Everything you did looks so weird compared to what we do in europe. We use metal pins to hold our shelves, and so on. Ikea has a pretty similar stile to these cabinets, even in colour.
    Even you method of the door hinge application is so different. Thank you.

  • @rryybass
    @rryybass 9 місяців тому +1

    Well I have to tell you, that I have been doing DIY for years, and watching video's, and I must yours is absolutely brilliant not only the wood working but with a funny side too, you might not think that but I you were great, cant wait to see more of them, and what a bonus, in real wood too yippeee. Keep up the good work, thank you

  • @TomFarrell-p9z
    @TomFarrell-p9z 9 місяців тому +2

    Great looking and love that you used pine, Scott!

  • @SleeperHoundDesign
    @SleeperHoundDesign 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome job Scott. It's a great weekend watching some of your build videos.

  • @guytech7310
    @guytech7310 9 місяців тому +1

    Looks like you spent a few hours to find those boards that did have many knots or cupping in them. Best option I found is to use solid pine for the draw sides, and good plywood for the draw bottoms & cabinet carcass. Other wise you spend hours & hours search for quality pine board, unless your willing to spend $50+ on a good premium Pine board imported from Chile, NZ, etc.
    What I really wish a US plywood mfg. would make plywood with solid pine boards glued together with a top & bottom plywood veneer so there is some solid wood for screws. This is available overseas, just not in the US (at least not any lumber retailer I've visited).

  • @WillieStubbs
    @WillieStubbs 8 місяців тому

    Freakin' amazing. I'm currently putting together some RTA cabinets for my kitchen. The Rustic Hickory came from the Amish and had nice jointery. My island cabinets came from Vietnam and the only good joints were on the drawers which were rounded finger joints. It's pretty eye opening at how different cabinets can be made. Luckily lots of glue and my brad nailer are helping fix the issues I have with their plywood construction.

  • @franklandwoodworking8972
    @franklandwoodworking8972 9 місяців тому

    Outstanding woodworking information and video production Scott. You are a natural. Your attention to detail and your problem solving skills are a great model for pros and hobbyists. Your choice of sponsors is solid as well: healthy nutritional supplements. We are betting that Dowelmax would be happy to sponsor you as well. Thanks Scott.

  • @JosephGiorgiDrums
    @JosephGiorgiDrums 8 місяців тому

    This is the first video of yours I've seen. I really enjoyed it. You gave me lots of great ideas. I appreciate it.

  • @theloneswiftman
    @theloneswiftman 9 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely stunning! What kind of finish are you using? :) Cheers from the cold north Denmark!

  • @amdenis
    @amdenis 7 місяців тому

    Great recommendation and good practice. For people needing a more time/labor efficient approach you might want to mention multi-layer softwood panels. Trade-offs...

  • @Logolth
    @Logolth 8 місяців тому

    Super cool project and video Scott! Love the structure of your videos, and they sound great too!

  • @WoLpH
    @WoLpH 9 місяців тому +2

    You don't need a back, but it's very convenient so stuff doesn't fall behind it :)
    And depending on the wall it makes your project look prettier

  • @kathrynnewton8721
    @kathrynnewton8721 8 місяців тому

    Love the dowel jig! Do you have a video on a simple cross cut jig perhaps - thank you

  • @DJ_K0D4
    @DJ_K0D4 9 місяців тому +4

    I'm having a really hard time understanding how S4S Pine being around 48 square inches per dollar, that you still have to edge joint, vs over 92 square inches per dollar for nice sanded plywood is better?

    • @tmx63
      @tmx63 9 місяців тому +2

      It's not.

  • @bobbg9041
    @bobbg9041 9 місяців тому

    Jig idea is perfect as long as someone don't flip it end for end, but you do have a way to drill a perfect jig you can flip.
    Use the Dowling jig to make it, then cut down the center of each last hole so the whole thing is the same end for end the most you'll be off is a few thou. Close enough for woodworking.

  • @bill4123
    @bill4123 9 місяців тому

    "I'm no longer tripping over as much stuff" 😂 story of my life. Tripping on stuff in the shop is my favorite hobby, some days it's all I do! Unless I'm taking breaks to drop stuff or knock stuff over.

  • @mbaker82
    @mbaker82 7 місяців тому

    Nice video! Keep up the good work. Question. Do you buy your lumber from a big box store or if not, where do you suggest others buy it from?

  • @haroldmorick2965
    @haroldmorick2965 9 місяців тому +2

    What a great video. So well produced and the content so clear and edifying. I get a lot of this channel.

  • @lachutequimarche8074
    @lachutequimarche8074 9 місяців тому

    Wow I’m so glad I found you! Totally reigniting my passion.