I love this exploration of the US market before the watch market became globalised. It makes it über vintage in today's globalised world! The UK watch market from 50s-70s could also be an interesting video subject as 9ct gold was unusually popular here and import tariffs meant that many top-tier Swiss watches had Swiss movements and dials but cases made in the UK. That made for some unique models for the UK market. They are often astounding value these days because they're small and gold and because of the tradition of giving solid gold watches as company gifts for long service or retirement persisted well into the 70s meaning plentiful supply on the used market. Interestingly the retiring employees were seemingly very conservative in taste so there are loads of date-only sub seconds models to be had. E.g. Longines 6922 still being given as retirement gifts in the late 70s!
Wow, just love reading your comments. haha That's right, about 9k gold cases were UK models. When I can find an excellent example, I'll make a video about it and add it to my "imported models" playlist on the channel. Currently, I have an RAF Omega video that I recently uploaded: ua-cam.com/video/J-_bOhlpnaM/v-deo.html
Support channel on Patreon: www.patreon.com/omegaenthusiast website: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com Instagram: instagram.com/omega_enthu... ---- Contents of this video ---------------- 00:00 - intro 00:51 - MODEL F6212 02:15 - MODEL B6237 03:40 - MODEL F6231 05:03 - MODEL G6232 06:26 - MODEL F6238 08:12 - MODEL BX6550 09:36 - MODEL F6249 11:00 - MODEL G6250 12:23 - MODEL N6259 13:47 - MODEL GX6260 15:13 - MODEL GX6250 16:39 - MODEL C6274 18:02 - MODEL 9082 19:29 - MODEL H6280 21:25 - MODEL LL6287-1 22:49 - MODEL KL6312 24:11 - MODEL LLU6289 25:35 - MODEL D6650 26:56 - MODEL KM6610 28:20 - MODEL C6336 29:40 - conclusion Here is a link to the Norman Morris catalogue from 1955: file:///C:/Users/DK/Downloads/1955%20Norman%20Morris%20Omega%20Catalogue%20Part%201.pdf
I have questions in regards to MODEL LL6287-1 . I havnt been able to find one with that dial at all. what do i have to search to better find that exact dial look? all the ones i find have a solid color but the one you have here int he video is like a brushed appearance
3:40 F6231 in solid gold, 37 mm wide, and 100 m WR could easily be my "one & done" watch. My $30 Casio is good enough for swimming. The F6231 could cover everything else. Pity Omega does not make anything like that today.
Thank you for the comment, and also input your opinion. I would say a 37mm example would be a great size as it will work well between many wrist sizes.
Crosshair dial is just one variation. I would not know the year of your watch without knowing its movement serial number. But here is an example of one with its technical details: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1958-omega-seamaster-automatic-14
Hi, I found a vintage Omega watch on ebay. Ebay offers an additional Expert Verification for $80.00 on watches between $1-2000.00. Do you feel this is a service that can give an accurate evaluation ( not value)
Honestly, I do not know whether their experts are actual expert. A recent incident that happened was the buyer received their watch with the crown and stem missing, after going though the verification. To me that is a lousy job and an expert does not need to remove the stem and crown of a watch to authenticate it. Self knowledge is vital or ask someone who really know their craft. And remember that there is no "expert" that know in deep about every watch brand. You can become an expert in 2-3 brands, but not every brands. Try asking on the Omega forums in the future, I am sure someone there will be able to assist you there. Unfortunately, due to my busy schedule I can only assist with questions related to the product that I have for sale on my site.
You’re welcome. Unfortunately, I do not know who in the US will sell you watches like these. But feel free to visit my website to view all the available pieces. Link in the description box
Can you enlighten me: I have a c.1969 Omega Cosmic Automatic, & I am trying 1) to determine the proper seconds hand to use, as Omega originally manufactured the reference in 1969, & 2) where I'd have the best success trying to acquire a seconds hand for my watch? Bonus: I also need a new Hessalite, or acrylic crystal. Any ideas? I love what you do; you & I share a similar reason for our passion for vintage timepieces. May The Force Be With You -MasterVanDer
Good day, and thank you for the comment! A project watch or a watch with improper parts is always not a fun watch to work with. But if you have the patience to source the correct parts, go for it. Honestly, the best and easiest method is to locate another exact watch in poor condition to use the hand. You will not be able to buy a new set from a supply house. Other methods would be to ask around from other collectors or possibly wait for one to appear at an auction site such as eBay. The hands are usually interchangeable with other models with the same movement calibre. Since your 1969 piece probably carries a calibre 565, any 550 series calibre with similar hands will work on your watch. You can learn about all calibres belonging to the 550 families in my playlist. Unfortunately, the crystal would be the same.
Coincidentally I just happen to be wearing my 1964 omega Seamaster DeVille manual wind date only on my left wrist today. Each day I change the watch on my left wrist. Thanks for the video. It was both enjoyable and educational.
And keep the same watch on for your right wrist? haha. Kidding. A 1964 SeaDV is a nice slim watch. Sounds like a 136.020 model and takes a calibre 610/611. Since it is an early-mid 1960s SeaDv, the case back most likely has the Sea Serpent emblem.
It seems many of the introduced models are gold and goldfilled and not many with 24 jewels for the US market at that period! While my collection 90% of over 100 pieces are in stainless steel and many may be fitted with 24 jewels which are my favourites!
That's correct. Gold-filled is affordable. The solid gold version is 14k instead of 18k. Only the chronometer pieces are in 24 jewels for the US collection. There is a steel version under reference FX6040. Here is a link: www.omegaenthusiast.com/OMESEABLKOEBSFTGFull.html
You have a really great channel. Being an Omega vintage watch enthusiast, I have learnt a lot from you videos. In my opinion, one of the best Chanels when it comes to Omega vintage watches. Wishing you every success and I will certainly keep watching.Many Thanks.
Great video. I have an Omega G6267 caliber 354. It was cased by Ross in NYC. It looks very similar to the G6232 shown in this video but without the drilled lugs. Vintage Omegas are my favorite watches to collect, such great history, and variety of models.
Another great video! I’d love to have a collection like that one day. My favorite is #19, but #6 and #14 come close. Thank you for the info about the OXG marking. Solves a minor mystery with my ‘66 Seamaster 600!
I have the Seamaster Deville KM6610 with the exact same dial! With the original signed crystal with magnifier! I can't believe you have one, there are so few photos of it online, it's crazy! One of my favorite dials. They really did something special with it since there's zero patina.
Nice! Usually when the dial has no luminous or the case is well sealed (proper crystal, crystal ring, and crown gasket), nothing from outside can enter to cause patina inside. :-) If you're looking for unique stuff that you don't see elsewhere, this is the channel to follow! Cheers!
Wow, thats a lot of great information. Definitely need a bumper in my collection some day.. What a great collection of 50's Omega's . Appreciate your time putting this video together!!!
Amazing vintage models! Lovely video ✨🙌 Mate be careful with these vintage timepieces, most of them don’t have any lume, but those which do are probably radium ☢️ you’d better make sure with a Geiger counter before opening them. Take care my friend,
Thank you for the comment. With regards to radium. I believe the scare of how dangerous it is has been spread by modern watch collectors, dealers, and promoters. Yes, radium is dangerous, no doubt about it. However, it is also essential to understand how dangerous it is. I know of many retired watchmakers, and they all tell me the same thing, when you work on a watch that carries radium, don't break the dust and inhale it. It is good to work in a shop with good ventilation as well. But if you're going to wear the one watch with radium, it's not going to affect you in any way. That said, I have conducted a test myself. I put 100 watches with radium in a room of about 100 square feet for a week. On the Geiger, the reading is very high. However, the radon released in that room is shown below my radon detector's dangerous/cautious level. This is the measurement of 100 watches in such a small space not to forget. So if you're planning to wear a single watch with radium, it will not be enough to even harm the hairs on your wrist. Even if you have 5 pieces resting on a tabletop inside your room is not going to harm you. I would say wifi in the house is more dangerous than a dozen radium watches. That's my rant on this topic. haha.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I don’t disagree with you my friend. But my caution is not about wearing the watches that have some radium. It’s not the radiation on the wrist that are dangerous, from what I researched these are mostly alpha rays that are stopped by the skin, indeed. The concern is when opening the watches, or with vintage timepiece that are in bad shape and not sealed. In these mentioned cases they are radium decay and dust that are released in the air, and those are extremely dangerous when inhaled, ingested and when in contact with your mucosa! Just opening a caseback car liberate radium dust and this is very dangerous and can have an irreversible impact on your health. This is always my concern when wearing radium watches, I am always afraid to bang into a door frame, brake a crystal in liberate tons of radioactive particules…. Don’t stress out people but be conscious of what your are holding and what you should be cautious for. Cheers
Yes, I understand that and why that was what I am trying to explain. The reading for radium is high during my test on the Geiger. However, it is considered safe on my Radon detector. These are two different devices I am referring to. Radium itself is dangerous if we break it up and inhale the dust. But more concern is the radon released while working on the watch. But once inside the case, the amount of radon releases become very little, and if you test on the Geiger, almost no radium is detected from the case back. Radon can gets its way out from the crystal side bit by bit, but not able to from the case back through the metal sealed case. There is also a long video on UA-cam that you can search up explaining that. This is why you don’t hear the many older watch collectors out their complaining or worries about radium watches. Only guys making a big fuss about them are you know who. At the end of the day, it is important to buy what you like. If a person is worried about wearing a watch with radium luminous paste on the dial, then best to avoid buying any watches before 1963 with luminous paste dial.
Dont know anything about value omega watches or any watches for that matter but what i know majority of sellers on ebay are ripping of people with prices there charging charging from 6 hundred pounds to thousand pounds for gents omega watch worth only two hundred twenty pounds
Thank you so much as always for your comment and kind words! Some of my straps are handmade at the shop. I am the local supplier for most of the others, but no longer sell them to clients during this time. However, some of the best straps made for vintage watches that I have purchased to fit on my own watches are from this Japanese dealer: curious-curio.jp/watch-bands/accurate-form Check them out!
It's from my collection. A lot of people have been looking for this piece as well. It is full set and I've always refused to sell it. But I think it's time for me to give it up. If you're interested, can email me on my site to discuss further.
Thanks
Thank you so much for your generous support!
Super interesting! I love these kinds of details! Thanks!
Anytime! Appreciated for the comment.
I love this exploration of the US market before the watch market became globalised. It makes it über vintage in today's globalised world! The UK watch market from 50s-70s could also be an interesting video subject as 9ct gold was unusually popular here and import tariffs meant that many top-tier Swiss watches had Swiss movements and dials but cases made in the UK. That made for some unique models for the UK market. They are often astounding value these days because they're small and gold and because of the tradition of giving solid gold watches as company gifts for long service or retirement persisted well into the 70s meaning plentiful supply on the used market. Interestingly the retiring employees were seemingly very conservative in taste so there are loads of date-only sub seconds models to be had. E.g. Longines 6922 still being given as retirement gifts in the late 70s!
Wow, just love reading your comments. haha
That's right, about 9k gold cases were UK models.
When I can find an excellent example, I'll make a video about it and add it to my "imported models" playlist on the channel. Currently, I have an RAF Omega video that I recently uploaded: ua-cam.com/video/J-_bOhlpnaM/v-deo.html
Support channel on Patreon: www.patreon.com/omegaenthusiast
website: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com
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---- Contents of this video ----------------
00:00 - intro
00:51 - MODEL F6212
02:15 - MODEL B6237
03:40 - MODEL F6231
05:03 - MODEL G6232
06:26 - MODEL F6238
08:12 - MODEL BX6550
09:36 - MODEL F6249
11:00 - MODEL G6250
12:23 - MODEL N6259
13:47 - MODEL GX6260
15:13 - MODEL GX6250
16:39 - MODEL C6274
18:02 - MODEL 9082
19:29 - MODEL H6280
21:25 - MODEL LL6287-1
22:49 - MODEL KL6312
24:11 - MODEL LLU6289
25:35 - MODEL D6650
26:56 - MODEL KM6610
28:20 - MODEL C6336
29:40 - conclusion
Here is a link to the Norman Morris catalogue from 1955:
file:///C:/Users/DK/Downloads/1955%20Norman%20Morris%20Omega%20Catalogue%20Part%201.pdf
Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge! I have learned a lot from your videos 🙏
My pleasure. Always happy to hear that viewers/subscribers are learning something new from watching my videos
Trumendus work ! Well done, as usual.
Many thanks as always!
Omega,the best watch.💪💪💪
34mm is my ideal size for my 7 in wrist. I have a 1960s solid gold Omega Seamaster DeVille
You're lucky because 7 inches is like the universal wrist size to fit any watch
Thanks!
Wow! Thank you so much for your generous support! Much much appreciated!
Ur collection makes me Dizzy… ;D want it all
Haha. All that you need is one. 😊
I have questions in regards to MODEL LL6287-1 . I havnt been able to find one with that dial at all. what do i have to search to better find that exact dial look? all the ones i find have a solid color but the one you have here int he video is like a brushed appearance
3:40 F6231 in solid gold, 37 mm wide, and 100 m WR could easily be my "one & done" watch. My $30 Casio is good enough for swimming. The F6231 could cover everything else. Pity Omega does not make anything like that today.
Thank you for the comment, and also input your opinion. I would say a 37mm example would be a great size as it will work well between many wrist sizes.
any info (year, model, caliber, etc) for an omega watch that looks like model c6274 but with a crosshair design on the dial?
Crosshair dial is just one variation. I would not know the year of your watch without knowing its movement serial number. But here is an example of one with its technical details: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1958-omega-seamaster-automatic-14
I have an Omega Geneve automatic 1012, almost 50 years old, never worn, full factory packaging with box and papers. 💪💪💪
Nice! Take good care of it. This short video might be useful: ua-cam.com/video/dPuxiRUiX0I/v-deo.html
Some very lovely straps
Brother update
Hi, I found a vintage Omega watch on ebay. Ebay offers an additional Expert Verification for $80.00 on watches between $1-2000.00. Do you feel this is a service that can give an accurate evaluation ( not value)
Honestly, I do not know whether their experts are actual expert. A recent incident that happened was the buyer received their watch with the crown and stem missing, after going though the verification. To me that is a lousy job and an expert does not need to remove the stem and crown of a watch to authenticate it. Self knowledge is vital or ask someone who really know their craft. And remember that there is no "expert" that know in deep about every watch brand. You can become an expert in 2-3 brands, but not every brands. Try asking on the Omega forums in the future, I am sure someone there will be able to assist you there. Unfortunately, due to my busy schedule I can only assist with questions related to the product that I have for sale on my site.
Thank you for informative video. Could you advise retailer in USA. where I can buy these masterpieces. Thank you in advance
You’re welcome. Unfortunately, I do not know who in the US will sell you watches like these. But feel free to visit my website to view all the available pieces. Link in the description box
I noticed all watches have numbers 3 6 9 and 12, I have one with numbers 2 4 8 10 and 12.O Omega automatic, any info about it? Thanks
Sounds like one from the 1950s. Possibly a bumper automatic under reference 2577 or 2767.
Can you please do a vid on 50s geneve models with 266,267 movements.
That day will come. Just need to find a nice and clean example. :)
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Great video. What strap do you have on the the square D6650?
Most of my straps are from local supplier. There is no brand. But you can find similar stuff from www.hirschstraps.com
Thanks for this clip. How can I reach you?
You can email me on my website: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com
I GOT MINES!
How much are Omega 15 and 20 watches?
15 may have been sold already. But you are welcome to visit my site to view all available pieces: www.omegaenthusiastltd.com
The second watch was my favorite.
Can you enlighten me: I have a c.1969 Omega Cosmic Automatic, & I am trying 1) to determine the proper seconds hand to use, as Omega originally manufactured the reference in 1969, & 2) where I'd have the best success trying to acquire a seconds hand for my watch? Bonus: I also need a new Hessalite, or acrylic crystal. Any ideas? I love what you do; you & I share a similar reason for our passion for vintage timepieces.
May The Force Be With You
-MasterVanDer
Good day, and thank you for the comment!
A project watch or a watch with improper parts is always not a fun watch to work with. But if you have the patience to source the correct parts, go for it.
Honestly, the best and easiest method is to locate another exact watch in poor condition to use the hand. You will not be able to buy a new set from a supply house. Other methods would be to ask around from other collectors or possibly wait for one to appear at an auction site such as eBay.
The hands are usually interchangeable with other models with the same movement calibre. Since your 1969 piece probably carries a calibre 565, any 550 series calibre with similar hands will work on your watch. You can learn about all calibres belonging to the 550 families in my playlist.
Unfortunately, the crystal would be the same.
❤
Coincidentally I just happen to be wearing my 1964 omega Seamaster DeVille manual wind date only on my left wrist today. Each day I change the watch on my left wrist. Thanks for the video. It was both enjoyable and educational.
And keep the same watch on for your right wrist? haha. Kidding.
A 1964 SeaDV is a nice slim watch. Sounds like a 136.020 model and takes a calibre 610/611. Since it is an early-mid 1960s SeaDv, the case back most likely has the Sea Serpent emblem.
It seems many of the introduced models are gold and goldfilled and not many with 24 jewels for the US market at that period! While my collection 90% of over 100 pieces are in stainless steel and many may be fitted with 24 jewels which are my favourites!
That's correct. Gold-filled is affordable. The solid gold version is 14k instead of 18k. Only the chronometer pieces are in 24 jewels for the US collection. There is a steel version under reference FX6040. Here is a link: www.omegaenthusiast.com/OMESEABLKOEBSFTGFull.html
You have a really great channel. Being an Omega vintage watch enthusiast, I have learnt a lot from you videos. In my opinion, one of the best Chanels when it comes to Omega vintage watches. Wishing you every success and I will certainly keep watching.Many Thanks.
Many thanks for the kind words and wishes. I will continue to upload more interesting videos. :-)
Great video. I have an Omega G6267 caliber 354. It was cased by Ross in NYC. It looks very similar to the G6232 shown in this video but without the drilled lugs. Vintage Omegas are my favorite watches to collect, such great history, and variety of models.
Thank you for sharing. That's correct; both of these models are indeed very similar.
Another great video! I’d love to have a collection like that one day. My favorite is #19, but #6 and #14 come close. Thank you for the info about the OXG marking. Solves a minor mystery with my ‘66 Seamaster 600!
Thank you for the comment and sharing your favourite three pieces!
As long as my viewers get to learn something, I am happy!
I have the Seamaster Deville KM6610 with the exact same dial! With the original signed crystal with magnifier! I can't believe you have one, there are so few photos of it online, it's crazy! One of my favorite dials. They really did something special with it since there's zero patina.
Nice!
Usually when the dial has no luminous or the case is well sealed (proper crystal, crystal ring, and crown gasket), nothing from outside can enter to cause patina inside. :-)
If you're looking for unique stuff that you don't see elsewhere, this is the channel to follow! Cheers!
@@TimelessHistoryChannel That's a good point! Yes definitely, thanks!
Very nice watches.
Wow, thats a lot of great information. Definitely need a bumper in my collection some day..
What a great collection of 50's Omega's . Appreciate your time putting this video together!!!
Thank you! Appreciate your time too for leaving a comment. Have a wonderful weekend!
@@TimelessHistoryChannel You also have a great weekend!!
Amazing vintage models! Lovely video ✨🙌
Mate be careful with these vintage timepieces, most of them don’t have any lume, but those which do are probably radium ☢️ you’d better make sure with a Geiger counter before opening them.
Take care my friend,
Thank you for the comment.
With regards to radium. I believe the scare of how dangerous it is has been spread by modern watch collectors, dealers, and promoters. Yes, radium is dangerous, no doubt about it. However, it is also essential to understand how dangerous it is. I know of many retired watchmakers, and they all tell me the same thing, when you work on a watch that carries radium, don't break the dust and inhale it. It is good to work in a shop with good ventilation as well. But if you're going to wear the one watch with radium, it's not going to affect you in any way.
That said, I have conducted a test myself. I put 100 watches with radium in a room of about 100 square feet for a week. On the Geiger, the reading is very high. However, the radon released in that room is shown below my radon detector's dangerous/cautious level. This is the measurement of 100 watches in such a small space not to forget. So if you're planning to wear a single watch with radium, it will not be enough to even harm the hairs on your wrist. Even if you have 5 pieces resting on a tabletop inside your room is not going to harm you. I would say wifi in the house is more dangerous than a dozen radium watches. That's my rant on this topic. haha.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel
I don’t disagree with you my friend. But my caution is not about wearing the watches that have some radium. It’s not the radiation on the wrist that are dangerous, from what I researched these are mostly alpha rays that are stopped by the skin, indeed. The concern is when opening the watches, or with vintage timepiece that are in bad shape and not sealed. In these mentioned cases they are radium decay and dust that are released in the air, and those are extremely dangerous when inhaled, ingested and when in contact with your mucosa! Just opening a caseback car liberate radium dust and this is very dangerous and can have an irreversible impact on your health.
This is always my concern when wearing radium watches, I am always afraid to bang into a door frame, brake a crystal in liberate tons of radioactive particules….
Don’t stress out people but be conscious of what your are holding and what you should be cautious for.
Cheers
Yes, I understand that and why that was what I am trying to explain. The reading for radium is high during my test on the Geiger. However, it is considered safe on my Radon detector. These are two different devices I am referring to. Radium itself is dangerous if we break it up and inhale the dust. But more concern is the radon released while working on the watch. But once inside the case, the amount of radon releases become very little, and if you test on the Geiger, almost no radium is detected from the case back. Radon can gets its way out from the crystal side bit by bit, but not able to from the case back through the metal sealed case. There is also a long video on UA-cam that you can search up explaining that. This is why you don’t hear the many older watch collectors out their complaining or worries about radium watches. Only guys making a big fuss about them are you know who. At the end of the day, it is important to buy what you like. If a person is worried about wearing a watch with radium luminous paste on the dial, then best to avoid buying any watches before 1963 with luminous paste dial.
Dont know anything about value omega watches or any watches for that matter but what i know majority of sellers on ebay are ripping of people with prices there charging charging from 6 hundred pounds to thousand pounds for gents omega watch worth only two hundred twenty pounds
Brother
As always, love your content, thank you so much…where do you obtain your straps?
Thank you so much as always for your comment and kind words! Some of my straps are handmade at the shop. I am the local supplier for most of the others, but no longer sell them to clients during this time.
However, some of the best straps made for vintage watches that I have purchased to fit on my own watches are from this Japanese dealer: curious-curio.jp/watch-bands/accurate-form
Check them out!
Eye candy overload 😎. Watch number 13 is my favorite
I'm sure many people's favourite! haha
Watch nr 14 is the holy grail for me. I can't find anything googling "H6280". Can anyone help?!?
It's from my collection. A lot of people have been looking for this piece as well. It is full set and I've always refused to sell it. But I think it's time for me to give it up. If you're interested, can email me on my site to discuss further.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel is it the same email as the newsletter?