What a great summer blockbuster. It's unashamedly dumb and cheesy. It just goes for it. And it's amazing for it. Over 25 years removed, it's also easy to forget how big of a deal this movie was at the time. Now every super hero blockbuster blows up buildings and cities. When this movie came out, that level of destruction looking that real was something we hadn't really seen before.
@@SuperCeleste007 I've been subscribed to Minty for probably 3 years now. He likes a lot of the nostalgia films as me. So I watch a high percentage of his videos.
That Bill Pullman speech still gives me chills to this day. That and the Samwise speech to Frodo in The Two Towers are probably my top 2 favorite movie speeches of all time.
One of the first things I ever downloaded on the net, in 1996, was his speech. It blew my mind that I could do that. I'm not even sure the VHS was out yet, can't remember. But someone just had it on the net, and then I could download it. Seems so dumb now.
When I went to go watch this movie with my dad, my brother and my sister we showed up early to get our tickets and the line for the movie stretched all the way around the theater. One of the staff came out and said they only had enough seats open for 3 people and we got picked. I’ll never forget that moment and wasn’t disappointed at all.
*I remember when this movie came out. I was at the beach for the week and it rained the whole time. Saw it 3 times. It was that or the John Travolta is an angel movie*
Hey Mark, It was ONE the best films I had the opportunity to work on. Our department was tasked with creating all of the miniatures. From the AWACS, "Welcome Wagon", "Mother Ship", "City Destroyers", "Alien Attackers", to the pyro miniature of the White House. The "11th Thing You Didn't Know...". There was a production behind the scenes gag reel on VHS that was given out to everyone. I've got to find mine and post it. Great videos! Thank for keeping us entertained. For those in Anaheim, CA on 4-2-22 see you in WonderCon. I'll be a part of "The VFX of Doctor Who: You Can Do This!" panel.
When the laptop timer reaches zero and David says "...time's up..." I get chills, every single time. Even now, just thinking about it and the music that plays at the moment, the brass horns striking a wailing note... I'm getting chills now just thinking of it!
For those of you who don't know, there's an alternate ending where Randy Quaid's character, Russell, is *turned down* when he volunteers to fly. Major Whats-his-face takes one look at that drunk and says, "No thanks. Get lost." Russell then shows up at the final battle in his biplane with a missile strapped to the wing and rams the ship. This whole sequence was filmed with the biplane and everything, but was changed to Russell in an F-18. I am *very* glad the powers-that-be didn't use that biplane. Quaid's redemption arc would have been far less if all he did was crash the party (literally.) Also, we would not have gotten his line, "I picked the wrong day to stop drinking."
Agreed. What I liked was the launch system failed which is why he made the decision to crash his plane into the alien ship after looking at a picture of his kids, showing that was the moment he decided to die. If it had been the biplane, the moment he decided to strap the missile to it and fly off would have been the moment instead. Much more impactful.
@@gomahklawm4446 Well to be fair, when the aliens arrived he was able to say “See I told you!!!”, some of that craziness was no doubt his experiences with the aliens 👽 and nobody believed him…
Independence Day was the perfect example of all that was good about 90's action cinema, and Independence Day 2 was the very same of all that went wrong in action cinema since
Amen to that. They went the wrong direction in so many ways. It's like they didn't even watch the original, but instead someone gave them a brief description of it.
We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're not just doing this for money, we're doing this for a shitload of money!
I think this movie is so charming in its 90s cheese that it's infectious! I never thought of the War of the Worlds comparison until you mentioned it, but I can see the similarities. Also, the musical score is so lovely it adds to the charm. Great video, Minty!
I saw "Independence Day" at the cinema with my mother when I was 11 years old and of course I was very impressed. The effects were way ahead of their time and still look great today. 👍
I remember it well. I was in the navy out in San Diego. That day was amazing for me. Spent the first part of the day at San Diego Comic-Con then waited in line at an outdoors mall to go see this film.
I totally agree with you, Minty. I literally loved this movie a whole lot. I found it to be extremely exciting, action-packed, energized, and a lot of fun. The characters were very interesting, particularly Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman, the flying saucers were great detailed, I thought the aliens were truly threatening. And I do think that it does feels like "Star Wars" wannabe. It's way better than "Stargate". Yes, it got heavily criticized, but it was a great celebrated independent film. A strongly recommendation for me on the 25th Anniversary of "Independence Day". Independence Day (1996) 4/4 👍👍👍👍
No mention of "V" ? I always thought the ship's arrival style and shapes were a big retake on the old tv show. And then you realize they're not here to chit-chat like the lizards were. Instead they move straight on to annihilation. It was a nice wink and twist to the V fans in my eye at the time.
"V"The classic mini series movies from the eighties , were cool back in the day ,and a hot Elizabeth Mitchell made for a cool updated "V".A few years ago .
I saw this on opening weekend and it HUGELY hyped. Some parts were cheesy even back then but overall it was fun. War of the Worlds is such an iconic story that other stories are bound to borrow from it. I don't think it was a remake but more of heavily influenced by.
You hit on a point I'd like to expand. The similarity Minty talked about is more between Independence Day and the 1953 film adaptation, rather than the H.G. Wells 1898 War of the Worlds novel. Moving the setting from Britain to California (and Nevada), while using manta ray ships that fly instead of tripod walkers are what does it for me.@@hellkey002
I'm always amazed by people who say this movie didn't take itself seriously. How do you come to that conclusion? It had one of the largest movie budgets ever. They put together a very good cast. And for it's day, they were using both practical effects, and very good ahead of it's time CGI. And it's a good script when you really look at it. It has a first, 2nd, and 3rd act. And has several great action scenes, with the final climax happening at the very end, not halfway through. The film took itself very seriously.
"Imagine what it would it be like if you woke up one morning to see 15 mile wide spaceships hovering over major cities." This is exactly the premise of the original V mini series
I was in the theater when it opened. It was a awesome movie! It literally got a standing ovation from the audience at the end of the movie! Still one of my favorites.
hell yea a guilty pleasure of mine… saw it in late ‘98 when my dad bought the vhs tape. and have loved it since. will always remember and cherish the time my dad said (in spanish) “hey let’s watch this movie and i’ll let you have some popcorn.” scared the shit outta me. but then had a better understanding of sci-fi. the rest is history.
I remember when my dad took me to the cinema "Colosseum" in my hometown Vienna to watch the movie ID4 on the big screen. As a kid I was hugely impressed and later got the VHS with a 3D-cover. By writing these words I'm getting nostalgic of the 90s and my childhood.
I love this movie! Despite it being the top grossing movie of 96 it took 20 years to get a sequel. Why? Because it wasn't supposed to get one. Yet, 20 years later they made one by retconing much of the original. This is the main reason why the sequel failed in the box office. It also had bad writing, acting and bad fx where most fx were just cgi. Compared to the practical fx of the original, the cgi pales in comparison and makes the movie feel small and boring.
@@burgersbeansandchips While you are correct, I'm talking about the visual of the ships hovering above cities and other locations which was taken from V.
One of the best speeches in a movie of all time. The first half of the movie when the ships are first entering the atmosphere are great and iconic. It gets cheesy in the 2nd half, but still a great movie overall.
Oh, YEAH!! GREAT review, Minty... LOVED this one! I love your final point about being able to watch a movie and just have some good, clean, silly FUN without worrying about pompous critics shredding it. THAT'S what movie fun is all about. Keep up the great work, man!
I first saw this movie on the day it opened, in cynical, blase Manhattan, and the entire theater stood up and cheered when the movie ended. The dude next to me yelled, "I love New York!" Such a fun movie!
I know right my best friend convinced me to bie this the second movie and watch it sed it was amazing it is pure trash and he's like no man it's sooo sooo good lol
I recall seeing the trailer for the first time. I was at MEPS in the process of joining the Marine Corps. They had a TV room because you were there at least 1 full day, and nothing to actually do for a good position of it. I wasn’t watching TV but the trailer caught my attention. It was a highly anticipated movie at the time.
The Oscars were on Sunday, you uploaded on Friday..wow!! Mad props to you for research, creating, editing, uploading this in less than 5 days..you the man !!!
I loved this film as a kid, and I still do now. I remember seeing it at the cinema and the line outside was o long it was comparable to the lines Star Wars had in 1977, so my brother said.
I honestly love all of your "things you didn't know" videos. Brings back a ton of memories from the past of when these movies came out and makes me want to start a movie night with the wife. Thanks again for the excellent content !
I love ID4. It's still my favorite "aliens come to attack Earth" movie. Not a fan of the 2nd one, was so disappointed. I always saw ID4 more of a re-imagining of War of the Worlds myself. Love your work Minty 💜
I know that critics panned this and not everyone liked it, but I love this movie, and have watched it so many times, I can't remember. It's such an uplifting movie. People band together and the President is such a great guy. I kind of want to watch it now. Thank you, Minty!
I went to go see this movie when I was 7. At the time I was playing Resident Evil and I had seen Alien, Aliens, Predator, Predator 2 multiple times owned them all on VHS along with all the Fridays and Halloween's up to that point etc and was obsessively watching The X-Files every week as they aired and this is the movie that scared me at 7yrs old... I think because it is such a global destruction movie and how easily we were taken out. How they used our technology against us and our best weapons were useless. It was also a very uplifting movie. My Dad was a Vietnam Vet so it was really cool to see Randy Quaid as a crazy Nam Vet that saved the day... I went with my Mom because my Dad couldn't handle the crowds or the tight spaces in movie theaters because of PTSD but when we got it on VHS he really liked the movie. I mean he was the one that introduced me to all that other Awesome stuff. Growing up it was like if I could watch the news then I could watch/play anything else. Either way that was my personal experience with this movie it left you feeling very patriotic when you left the theater like we could accomplish anything if we work together. Damn times were so different back then and it wasn't even that long ago... EDIT: Yes I had the PS1 game and yes it sucked just as much as everyone else says it does, I actually still have it in my PlayStation disc holder in pretty good condition. Never feel nostalgic for it though it's that bad.
The plot hole of how they hacked the mothership was perfectly explained in that deleted scene: We stole our computing systems & tech from the aliens via area 51, thus they were compatible.
No, it's still completely asinine. You can't write a computer virus for one system that will work on another. Even if you use that logic, it wouldn't explain why a virus written for Windows doesn't work on a Mac. In fact, at one point Apple advertised that they were less likely to be infected by viruses than PCs, and stopped it when hackers specifically wrote viruses for them. When 90%+ of computers were PCs, most hackers just didn't write them to infect Macs. Also, if they'd already figured out the technology well enough to create our own modern technology on it, the military would not have needed Jeff Goldblum to decipher a simple countdown. The government was completely unaware of it until he crashed the White House and told them. So, no, that doesn't perfectly explain it.
It was an enjoyable watch but the Mac scene took me out of the fun since I am in IT. They should have left the deleted scene in if it explains how it was hacked.
Yeah but we really didn't. Saying we did is an insult to all of the people that worked to develop the technology we use today. The guys that invented the first transistor were living in my home town when they did it. Then a couple decades later Dennis Ritchie of C and UNIX fame grew up in my home town too. I grew up next door to Bell Labs. They were all strange birds but they were human.
It was an explanation, but definitely far from “perfect.” They we’re making a huge assumption that the alien technology would never be advanced. Just look how far humans have advanced in the past 20 years. If the aliens had stolen some of our tech even back in the early 2000’s, then invaded us now with a plan to hack our computers based on our old tech, it wouldn’t work.
@@Dark_Mishra how much progress have we really made in the past 20 years? Lately I've seen a lot of change just for change sake. I wouldn't call any of it progress though. Me from 20 years ago would be very familiar with what I'm doing right now.
Great video, Minty. I always liked the movie, but the immediate parallels to V were obvious because there you have about 50, mile-wide ships hovering over each large, Earth city. Aliens with a motive to destroy, whether it be insidious or a right-out KA-Boom! were arriving on Earth to be the antagonist.
Yes, I was waiting for Minty to talk about V, but he never did. The whole beginning of the aliens arriving is basically the same as the beginning of the aliens arriving in V. Large saucer alien ships going toward landmarks and they did a countdown as well.
@@zsming absolutely. It’s line they took A.C Cripin’s book, and cut out the subterfuge (because the ID4 aliens were after the planet, not the food and water), dialed up the action to 11, and said, “Nah, we didn’t steal anything… oh look over there… EXPLODY things!”
A far more stronger resemblance can B found in Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End" -- a classic sci-fi novel in which an Earth on the brink of full-scale nuclear war is interrupted by the silent appearance of enormous alien motherships, each of which arrives to hover directly over a major metropolis. At 1st, no messages R sent out by the motherships, & all attempts to attack them fail. The comparison to "Independence Day" is so obvious that Clarke himself wondered if the screenwriters had simply lifted the whole premise directly from his book....
The ID4 release was huge. I lived in SoCal at the time and got off work just in time to go see it opening night. Theater was full but I lucked out because I was alone. Later that night the local news was running the opening as its lead story, probably since L.A. was featured prominently in the aliens' attack. I had a free screensaver on my PC that counted down the wait time until the movie's opening, and played an alien destroyer blasting the Empire State building.
Boy do I remember this when it came out. I was on Deployment for the Navy and this movie was following us when it was released. We would pull into a foreign port and on the day we would leave it would premier. It went on for several months until we hit a small city in Austria and FIANLLY got to see it in a very small local HS theater. It would be until we got to Hawaii on our way home to see it in a Full theater.
Great video! I am curious about the deleted scene related to the computer virus. Connecting to an alien computer was one of the silliest parts of the movie. A joke at the time was: "The reason Jeff Goldblum was able to so easily connect to the aliens' computer is the aliens, like everyone else in the universe, were forced to use Bill Gates' monopolistic Microsoft Windows operating system."
That deleted scene is included in the blu-ray "extended version". When everyone is first shown the crashed ship at Area 51, Jeff Goldblum is asked to study its controls, to see what he could find. Jeff notices that the ship's computer uses the same code as the one used in the countdown, discovered in the satellite signals. Still a stretch.
I remember going to see this as a double feature, at the last remaining seive in in the county my ex wife and I lived in. Opended with ID4, followed by the last screening if Twister for that seive in. Cooler, futon mattress in the truck bed, snacks from the grocery store, and the remote speakers from behind the seat on the tool box, and the sub vibrating it. Epic pair of movies, for that set up, on a warm summer night. Current wife and I still get her, her current, and her kids together with us, head to one of the two in our area, and break out the lawn chairs, truck mattress, and treat them to something the 4 of us grew up with. Her boys and our daughter love it.
I don't care how long it's been out, how old I get, or how many countless times I've watched this movie the speech Bill Pullman gives is the best movie speech ever
It just feels... real. Like a sleepless angry President actually ad-libbed it. "Today we celebrate our Independence, Day" reads stupid on screen but is absolutely earned after getting to that point
From the special effects that still hold up to one of the most iconic speeches from a fictional president, I'm surprised this vid hasn't been doesn't yet! I saw ID4 in theaters and thoroughly enjoyed it! It's probably the second film that led me to enjoy the disaster movie genre more than other genres, the first being The Great Los Angeles Earthquake.
Lots of facts I never knew about this movie, this is one of my favourite channels now, found you by accident and was so surprised as it is full of the kind of shit floating about in my head that keeps me from remembering things like my kids birthdays. Minty you are a legend.
You're spot on with the comparison to 1950s movies. Author Harlan Ellison HATED this movie because he said it's a knockoff of Earth vs. The Flying Saucers.
Now that's what I call a close encounter. Will Smith knocking out an Alien. I remember when this movie came out on July 4th weekend in 1996, Will Smith started laying claim to this weekend for his future upcoming movies. It was also the 2nd movie after The first Mission Impossible (also 1996) to use the UK's Sky News in the news show clips.
I saw Independence Day in the theaters when it came out, and I had a blast watching it. Yes, it’s cheesy, but people seem to always think cheesy is a bad thing. Sometimes you just need to watch a film that is entertaining. Movies today take it so seriously that it verges on melodrama, especially superhero movies.
I was working at a movie theater when this came out! It was so busy! It had to be run in two of the 8 theaters in the multiplex. It sold out over and over, and I watched it 3 times! Needless to say, we sold A LOT of popcorn 🍿!!!!
President Pullman would have been great on the microphone if he would have been in the WWF during the Attitude years. I have a feeling Vince McMahon used him for inspiration during some promos lol.
This movie blew my mind back then. I was like 8 or 9 when it came out and I fell in love with it. But yeah as an adult now I see why critics didn't like it. Despite that I have a soft spot for it.
What a great summer blockbuster. It's unashamedly dumb and cheesy. It just goes for it. And it's amazing for it.
Over 25 years removed, it's also easy to forget how big of a deal this movie was at the time. Now every super hero blockbuster blows up buildings and cities. When this movie came out, that level of destruction looking that real was something we hadn't really seen before.
I remember seeing it in the theatre when the destruction begun and during it there wasn't a single sound in the audience.
What the fuc did not expect you to be commenting on this video
@@SuperCeleste007 I've been subscribed to Minty for probably 3 years now. He likes a lot of the nostalgia films as me. So I watch a high percentage of his videos.
The visual effects were what won this movie an Oscar that year
@@YavorM-Yash because of the dark music. Such a masterpiece that music is.
That Bill Pullman speech still gives me chills to this day. That and the Samwise speech to Frodo in The Two Towers are probably my top 2 favorite movie speeches of all time.
One of the first things I ever downloaded on the net, in 1996, was his speech. It blew my mind that I could do that. I'm not even sure the VHS was out yet, can't remember. But someone just had it on the net, and then I could download it. Seems so dumb now.
I still wanna salute him. 😍😍😍
Will Patton in Remember The Titans was a good one.
Gotta put Mel Gibson's speech from Braveheart up there!
My thoughts exactly. I cried the first time I saw it and if I watched it today I would cry.
When I went to go watch this movie with my dad, my brother and my sister we showed up early to get our tickets and the line for the movie stretched all the way around the theater. One of the staff came out and said they only had enough seats open for 3 people and we got picked. I’ll never forget that moment and wasn’t disappointed at all.
*I remember when this movie came out. I was at the beach for the week and it rained the whole time. Saw it 3 times. It was that or the John Travolta is an angel movie*
@@nova2512 Michael
But you list four people...
@@avnrulz8587 I’m old and sometimes I can’t count
@@ghostraven3749 Don't worry I saw the original Star Wars in the theater, so I am also.
Hey Mark,
It was ONE the best films I had the opportunity to work on. Our department was tasked with creating all of the miniatures. From the AWACS, "Welcome Wagon", "Mother Ship", "City Destroyers", "Alien Attackers", to the pyro miniature of the White House.
The "11th Thing You Didn't Know...". There was a production behind the scenes gag reel on VHS that was given out to everyone. I've got to find mine and post it.
Great videos! Thank for keeping us entertained.
For those in Anaheim, CA on 4-2-22 see you in WonderCon. I'll be a part of "The VFX of Doctor Who: You Can Do This!" panel.
Thanks for your hard work on making this a modern classic!
Can I poop in your hand?
When the laptop timer reaches zero and David says "...time's up..." I get chills, every single time. Even now, just thinking about it and the music that plays at the moment, the brass horns striking a wailing note... I'm getting chills now just thinking of it!
For those of you who don't know, there's an alternate ending where Randy Quaid's character, Russell, is *turned down* when he volunteers to fly. Major Whats-his-face takes one look at that drunk and says, "No thanks. Get lost." Russell then shows up at the final battle in his biplane with a missile strapped to the wing and rams the ship. This whole sequence was filmed with the biplane and everything, but was changed to Russell in an F-18. I am *very* glad the powers-that-be didn't use that biplane. Quaid's redemption arc would have been far less if all he did was crash the party (literally.) Also, we would not have gotten his line, "I picked the wrong day to stop drinking."
Yeah I was wondering why he didn’t include that in this list. I knew about it, but I’m sure the majority of people out there didn’t
Agreed. What I liked was the launch system failed which is why he made the decision to crash his plane into the alien ship after looking at a picture of his kids, showing that was the moment he decided to die. If it had been the biplane, the moment he decided to strap the missile to it and fly off would have been the moment instead. Much more impactful.
That dude did end up going crazy though. Squatting and all kinds of crazy stuff.
@@gomahklawm4446 Well to be fair, when the aliens arrived he was able to say “See I told you!!!”, some of that craziness was no doubt his experiences with the aliens 👽 and nobody believed him…
Independence Day was the perfect example of all that was good about 90's action cinema, and Independence Day 2 was the very same of all that went wrong in action cinema since
ID2 was awful, god knows what they were thinking with that sequel.
Amen to that. They went the wrong direction in so many ways. It's like they didn't even watch the original, but instead someone gave them a brief description of it.
@@usnavyguy4454 Whoever greenlit that movie needs to be sacked, and need to find a new career.
totally agree.
Lol great post. I agree.
Great cast, developed characters, special effects that still hold up... No reservations about calling it a true classic
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Jeff Goldblum playing a nerdy scientist. Big shock!!!
@@anubusx um, Brundlefly?
Agreed!
Still on of my favorite movies til this day and I still get emotional during Bill Pullman's speech.
@SAMCA San Andreas Trump, would have been better in the role!
@SAMCA San Andreas Indeed!
We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're not just doing this for money, we're doing this for a shitload of money!
@SAMCA San Andreas his performance showed more guts than our potus or his handlers ever will
@@DMSProduktions AMEN
I used to work at Blockbuster and when ID4 was realised, It was the first time 1 film filled a whole section of shelf space in the store.
Saw this in theaters on the 4th the day after it came out. Pullman's speech got a standing ovation.
In europe nobody gives a shit about president speeches ....gladly
@@deg6788 lol
@@deg6788 and that is one of many reasons nobody in the States gives a shit about Europe.
I think this movie is so charming in its 90s cheese that it's infectious! I never thought of the War of the Worlds comparison until you mentioned it, but I can see the similarities. Also, the musical score is so lovely it adds to the charm. Great video, Minty!
When I was in high school my friend and I made a stop motion claymation parody of this movie called “Independence Clay.” 😹❤️
I see what you did there.
Weird flex but ok
@@cylersmiley5259 serial killer much?
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 I don't think he was flexing but okay
@@bigkmoviesandgames it was a joke lol
Chris Rock should’ve said “now that’s what I call a close encounter!” After the slap. What a missed opportunity.
Damn right
I love the scene where Will Smith hits the alien in the face for talking about his wife and then says Welcome To Earth!
Was the alien also sleeping with his wife?
eyyyyyyy! _-oo-_
Well played
Lmao
“Keep my wife’s name out your f-ing mouth, wherever it is”
It's been 26 years and bill Pullman's speech still gives me chills and goosebumps
I saw this in theaters. One of the handful of fond memories with my dad thanks to this movie.
I saw "Independence Day" at the cinema with my mother when I was 11 years old and of course I was very impressed.
The effects were way ahead of their time and still look great today. 👍
I remember it well. I was in the navy out in San Diego. That day was amazing for me. Spent the first part of the day at San Diego Comic-Con then waited in line at an outdoors mall to go see this film.
I totally agree with you, Minty. I literally loved this movie a whole lot. I found it to be extremely exciting, action-packed, energized, and a lot of fun. The characters were very interesting, particularly Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman, the flying saucers were great detailed, I thought the aliens were truly threatening. And I do think that it does feels like "Star Wars" wannabe. It's way better than "Stargate". Yes, it got heavily criticized, but it was a great celebrated independent film. A strongly recommendation for me on the 25th Anniversary of "Independence Day".
Independence Day (1996) 4/4 👍👍👍👍
Not disagreeing with your post, but it wasn't an independent film. It was a big budget 20th Century Fox production
I was born in '96, so thanks for making me feel old. 😂
@@monsterhanna6691 So am I.
No mention of "V" ? I always thought the ship's arrival style and shapes were a big retake on the old tv show. And then you realize they're not here to chit-chat like the lizards were. Instead they move straight on to annihilation. It was a nice wink and twist to the V fans in my eye at the time.
I thought of V when I first saw it as well.
"V"The classic mini series movies from the eighties , were cool back in the day ,and a hot Elizabeth Mitchell made for a cool updated "V".A few years ago .
V was better!
The classic or the reboot ?
@@jonathanbarker1016 I watched the reboot and I dont really remember it tbh. No still talking of the original.
I saw this on opening weekend and it HUGELY hyped. Some parts were cheesy even back then but overall it was fun. War of the Worlds is such an iconic story that other stories are bound to borrow from it. I don't think it was a remake but more of heavily influenced by.
I concur
My favorite double feature is The War of the Worlds (1953) followed by ID4. Back in 1996 and 1997, I used to watch both on VHS.
You hit on a point I'd like to expand. The similarity Minty talked about is more between Independence Day and the 1953 film adaptation, rather than the H.G. Wells 1898 War of the Worlds novel. Moving the setting from Britain to California (and Nevada), while using manta ray ships that fly instead of tripod walkers are what does it for me.@@hellkey002
Man, Will Smith really SLAPPED that alien good in this movie.
"Keep my planets name outtaya fuckin invasion plans!!"
If he knocked out an alien but not Chris Rock .....don't mess with Chris Rock!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍😍😍
I'm always amazed by people who say this movie didn't take itself seriously. How do you come to that conclusion? It had one of the largest movie budgets ever. They put together a very good cast. And for it's day, they were using both practical effects, and very good ahead of it's time CGI. And it's a good script when you really look at it. It has a first, 2nd, and 3rd act. And has several great action scenes, with the final climax happening at the very end, not halfway through. The film took itself very seriously.
"Take my planet's name out of your f@cking mouth!!!" PUNCH!
"Imagine what it would it be like if you woke up one morning to see 15 mile wide spaceships hovering over major cities." This is exactly the premise of the original V mini series
Smith punched out the alien yet Chris Rock didn't bat an eyelid which means Chris Rock is tougher than an alien.
I was in the theater when it opened. It was a awesome movie! It literally got a standing ovation from the audience at the end of the movie! Still one of my favorites.
hell yea a guilty pleasure of mine… saw it in late ‘98 when my dad bought the vhs tape. and have loved it since. will always remember and cherish the time my dad said (in spanish) “hey let’s watch this movie and i’ll let you have some popcorn.” scared the shit outta me. but then had a better understanding of sci-fi. the rest is history.
You don’t know what guilty pleasure means.
I remember when my dad took me to the cinema "Colosseum" in my hometown Vienna to watch the movie ID4 on the big screen. As a kid I was hugely impressed and later got the VHS with a 3D-cover. By writing these words I'm getting nostalgic of the 90s and my childhood.
I love this movie!
Despite it being the top grossing movie of 96 it took 20 years to get a sequel. Why? Because it wasn't supposed to get one. Yet, 20 years later they made one by retconing much of the original. This is the main reason why the sequel failed in the box office. It also had bad writing, acting and bad fx where most fx were just cgi. Compared to the practical fx of the original, the cgi pales in comparison and makes the movie feel small and boring.
...and why I refused to see it in the first place.
The thing that made old cgi fx something that still holds up today is that directors knew when not to use it.
I think the main reason the sequel failed is the writing. Garbage story telling
Independence Day has the Best Speech ever delivered in any movie!! Bill Pullman nails it. Goosebumps!
The idea of huge circular spaceships hovering over major cities was taken from the 80s mini series V.
Much older than that, try 1950's sci-fi pulp fiction, giant saucers everywhere.
@@burgersbeansandchips While you are correct, I'm talking about the visual of the ships hovering above cities and other locations which was taken from V.
Arthur C. Clarke kicked off that trope in "Childhood's End".
One of the best speeches in a movie of all time. The first half of the movie when the ships are first entering the atmosphere are great and iconic. It gets cheesy in the 2nd half, but still a great movie overall.
Oh, YEAH!! GREAT review, Minty... LOVED this one! I love your final point about being able to watch a movie and just have some good, clean, silly FUN without worrying about pompous critics shredding it. THAT'S what movie fun is all about. Keep up the great work, man!
I first saw this movie on the day it opened, in cynical, blase Manhattan, and the entire theater stood up and cheered when the movie ended. The dude next to me yelled, "I love New York!" Such a fun movie!
I loved this movie, I remember going to the theater 3x to watch this film. Too bad the second Independence Day film was an abomination.
I know right my best friend convinced me to bie this the second movie and watch it sed it was amazing it is pure trash and he's like no man it's sooo sooo good lol
Ha ha ha, a huge resounding Amen.
Just like the 3rd Rush Hour movie. That was crap
I remember seeing this on the opening day. This is the only movie I have ever gone to that the audience Stood up to clap and cheer.
Yes, this happened when we went also. It reminded us that the good old fashioned Americsn spirit is still alive and well! 🇺🇸
I recall seeing the trailer for the first time.
I was at MEPS in the process of joining the Marine Corps.
They had a TV room because you were there at least 1 full day, and nothing to actually do for a good position of it.
I wasn’t watching TV but the trailer caught my attention.
It was a highly anticipated movie at the time.
I saw the trailer before a showing of Down Periscope. I was more excited Bout that than Kelsey Grammer for sure.
The Oscars were on Sunday, you uploaded on Friday..wow!! Mad props to you for research, creating, editing, uploading this in less than 5 days..you the man !!!
I loved this film as a kid, and I still do now. I remember seeing it at the cinema and the line outside was o long it was comparable to the lines Star Wars had in 1977, so my brother said.
GAWD I love that Bill Pullman speech!
One of my all-time favorite movies! Thank you so much, Minty. 😍😍😍👽👽👽
I honestly love all of your "things you didn't know" videos. Brings back a ton of memories from the past of when these movies came out and makes me want to start a movie night with the wife.
Thanks again for the excellent content !
I love ID4. It's still my favorite "aliens come to attack Earth" movie. Not a fan of the 2nd one, was so disappointed.
I always saw ID4 more of a re-imagining of War of the Worlds myself.
Love your work Minty 💜
Smartest moves of Will Smith's career: saying yes to the original, and saying no to the sequel
You wanna know what's more disappointing? That I spent $20 on the sequel that I was so excited to see on DVD. 😂😭💔
@@monsterhanna6691 i bought a bootleg dvd for a buck on vacation...i couldnt even finish watching it...it was aweful
You're right, that sequel was soulless and boring.
I remember back in 1996, the scene when the ships started floating over the cities reminded me of the early 80s TV miniseries V
Greatest speech in movie history
I know that critics panned this and not everyone liked it, but I love this movie, and have watched it so many times, I can't remember. It's such an uplifting movie. People band together and the President is such a great guy. I kind of want to watch it now. Thank you, Minty!
Minty you couldn't have chosen another film man. The comments are gold.
Hmm...Men in Black, Bad Boys...
I went to go see this movie when I was 7. At the time I was playing Resident Evil and I had seen Alien, Aliens, Predator, Predator 2 multiple times owned them all on VHS along with all the Fridays and Halloween's up to that point etc and was obsessively watching The X-Files every week as they aired and this is the movie that scared me at 7yrs old... I think because it is such a global destruction movie and how easily we were taken out. How they used our technology against us and our best weapons were useless. It was also a very uplifting movie. My Dad was a Vietnam Vet so it was really cool to see Randy Quaid as a crazy Nam Vet that saved the day... I went with my Mom because my Dad couldn't handle the crowds or the tight spaces in movie theaters because of PTSD but when we got it on VHS he really liked the movie. I mean he was the one that introduced me to all that other Awesome stuff. Growing up it was like if I could watch the news then I could watch/play anything else. Either way that was my personal experience with this movie it left you feeling very patriotic when you left the theater like we could accomplish anything if we work together. Damn times were so different back then and it wasn't even that long ago...
EDIT: Yes I had the PS1 game and yes it sucked just as much as everyone else says it does, I actually still have it in my PlayStation disc holder in pretty good condition. Never feel nostalgic for it though it's that bad.
Such a shame that Chris Rock does not feature alongside in this movie
Will had PTSD and thought Chris Rock was one of those aliens talking bout his wife..
When Will really packed a punch. He just hits different now
He packs a slap these days
@@itwsntme Can’t drop Chris Rock though lol
@@NemeanLion- the attention he’s getting now is unbelievable! And his ratings are sky rocketing
@@nsasupporter7557 he deserves it. He handled it like a champ and didn’t even press charges.
I wish we had more Randy Quiad movies...we need him back again!
This movie kinda slaps you in the face lol
Yea the best part was when the alien sed shit about his wife then he punched it in the face.
Beat me to it!
🤣 I feel there are gonna be a lot of comments like this. Including mine.
Lololollllioooolll
Damn, this cracks me up.
I watched ID4 with my 9 year old just recently. He loved it and for me, even 28 years later, I still enjoyed it.
Are you from the future?
@@Bit2brain Uh…no. That’s an odd thing to ask. Are you from the future?
The plot hole of how they hacked the mothership was perfectly explained in that deleted scene: We stole our computing systems & tech from the aliens via area 51, thus they were compatible.
No, it's still completely asinine. You can't write a computer virus for one system that will work on another. Even if you use that logic, it wouldn't explain why a virus written for Windows doesn't work on a Mac. In fact, at one point Apple advertised that they were less likely to be infected by viruses than PCs, and stopped it when hackers specifically wrote viruses for them. When 90%+ of computers were PCs, most hackers just didn't write them to infect Macs. Also, if they'd already figured out the technology well enough to create our own modern technology on it, the military would not have needed Jeff Goldblum to decipher a simple countdown. The government was completely unaware of it until he crashed the White House and told them. So, no, that doesn't perfectly explain it.
It was an enjoyable watch but the Mac scene took me out of the fun since I am in IT. They should have left the deleted scene in if it explains how it was hacked.
Yeah but we really didn't. Saying we did is an insult to all of the people that worked to develop the technology we use today. The guys that invented the first transistor were living in my home town when they did it. Then a couple decades later Dennis Ritchie of C and UNIX fame grew up in my home town too. I grew up next door to Bell Labs. They were all strange birds but they were human.
It was an explanation, but definitely far from “perfect.” They we’re making a huge assumption that the alien technology would never be advanced. Just look how far humans have advanced in the past 20 years. If the aliens had stolen some of our tech even back in the early 2000’s, then invaded us now with a plan to hack our computers based on our old tech, it wouldn’t work.
@@Dark_Mishra how much progress have we really made in the past 20 years? Lately I've seen a lot of change just for change sake. I wouldn't call any of it progress though. Me from 20 years ago would be very familiar with what I'm doing right now.
I was 33 when this movie came out in theaters in the U.S.A. How time flies!
Great video, Minty. I always liked the movie, but the immediate parallels to V were obvious because there you have about 50, mile-wide ships hovering over each large, Earth city. Aliens with a motive to destroy, whether it be insidious or a right-out KA-Boom! were arriving on Earth to be the antagonist.
Yes, I was waiting for Minty to talk about V, but he never did. The whole beginning of the aliens arriving is basically the same as the beginning of the aliens arriving in V. Large saucer alien ships going toward landmarks and they did a countdown as well.
@@zsming absolutely. It’s line they took A.C Cripin’s book, and cut out the subterfuge (because the ID4 aliens were after the planet, not the food and water), dialed up the action to 11, and said, “Nah, we didn’t steal anything… oh look over there… EXPLODY things!”
A far more stronger resemblance can B found in Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End" -- a classic sci-fi novel in which an Earth on the brink of full-scale nuclear war is interrupted by the silent appearance of enormous alien motherships, each of which arrives to hover directly over a major metropolis. At 1st, no messages R sent out by the motherships, & all attempts to attack them fail.
The comparison to "Independence Day" is so obvious that Clarke himself wondered if the screenwriters had simply lifted the whole premise directly from his book....
He should have sued them
After all these years of not making music, Will Smith can still pull out a hook that really slaps!
He doesn’t make music imo. He samples pieces of old hits because he can’t produce any good beats himself.
I get it!
The ID4 release was huge. I lived in SoCal at the time and got off work just in time to go see it opening night. Theater was full but I lucked out because I was alone. Later that night the local news was running the opening as its lead story, probably since L.A. was featured prominently in the aliens' attack. I had a free screensaver on my PC that counted down the wait time until the movie's opening, and played an alien destroyer blasting the Empire State building.
oy Chris Rock, Welcome to Earth
Boy do I remember this when it came out. I was on Deployment for the Navy and this movie was following us when it was released. We would pull into a foreign port and on the day we would leave it would premier. It went on for several months until we hit a small city in Austria and FIANLLY got to see it in a very small local HS theater. It would be until we got to Hawaii on our way home to see it in a Full theater.
"We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Minty Video Day!"
And then Will Smith slapped him.
one of my fav movies ever..watch it every year
Well this is right on time lol
This is one of my favorite movies. I was 14 and the hype for this movie was insane and Will Smith's shot to stardom.
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Great video! I am curious about the deleted scene related to the computer virus. Connecting to an alien computer was one of the silliest parts of the movie. A joke at the time was: "The reason Jeff Goldblum was able to so easily connect to the aliens' computer is the aliens, like everyone else in the universe, were forced to use Bill Gates' monopolistic Microsoft Windows operating system."
That deleted scene is included in the blu-ray "extended version". When everyone is first shown the crashed ship at Area 51, Jeff Goldblum is asked to study its controls, to see what he could find. Jeff notices that the ship's computer uses the same code as the one used in the countdown, discovered in the satellite signals. Still a stretch.
I remember going to see this as a double feature, at the last remaining seive in in the county my ex wife and I lived in. Opended with ID4, followed by the last screening if Twister for that seive in.
Cooler, futon mattress in the truck bed, snacks from the grocery store, and the remote speakers from behind the seat on the tool box, and the sub vibrating it. Epic pair of movies, for that set up, on a warm summer night.
Current wife and I still get her, her current, and her kids together with us, head to one of the two in our area, and break out the lawn chairs, truck mattress, and treat them to something the 4 of us grew up with.
Her boys and our daughter love it.
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One of the best evergreen movie! Thank you Mr. Minty to create this great content about it! Had some real surprises even for fans!
Saw this in theaters when I lived in NY back in the day.
Still epic. I watch it every July 4th
I actually enjoyed the sequel too
I don't care how long it's been out, how old I get, or how many countless times I've watched this movie the speech Bill Pullman gives is the best movie speech ever
It just feels... real. Like a sleepless angry President actually ad-libbed it. "Today we celebrate our Independence, Day" reads stupid on screen but is absolutely earned after getting to that point
From the special effects that still hold up to one of the most iconic speeches from a fictional president, I'm surprised this vid hasn't been doesn't yet!
I saw ID4 in theaters and thoroughly enjoyed it!
It's probably the second film that led me to enjoy the disaster movie genre more than other genres, the first being The Great Los Angeles Earthquake.
When Will Smith punched that alien in the face, i remember everyone in the theater laughing!
Lots of facts I never knew about this movie, this is one of my favourite channels now, found you by accident and was so surprised as it is full of the kind of shit floating about in my head that keeps me from remembering things like my kids birthdays. Minty you are a legend.
Steve: Welcome to Earth. Now that's what I call a close encounter.
I remember being 11 and watching this in theatres. It was so much fun and I Pullman's speech was and will always be epic to me.
I was 18 and this was a great movie!
You're spot on with the comparison to 1950s movies. Author Harlan Ellison HATED this movie because he said it's a knockoff of Earth vs. The Flying Saucers.
Nice one, Minty.
To this day I get goosebumps when Bill makes that speech, and cry at his sacrifice
Now that's what I call a close encounter. Will Smith knocking out an Alien.
I remember when this movie came out on July 4th weekend in 1996, Will Smith started laying claim to this weekend for his future upcoming movies. It was also the 2nd movie after The first Mission Impossible (also 1996) to use the UK's Sky News in the news show clips.
Can knock out an alien, but can’t drop Chris Rock lol
the hype was EVERYWHERE!!!
They told Will that the aliens were talking about his wife. Go get em Willie.
That’s speech at the beginning of the battle was amazing and gave me goosebumps
Ahh… how timely you pick a movie featuring Will ‘Slapper’ Smith
I saw Independence Day in the theaters when it came out, and I had a blast watching it. Yes, it’s cheesy, but people seem to always think cheesy is a bad thing. Sometimes you just need to watch a film that is entertaining. Movies today take it so seriously that it verges on melodrama, especially superhero movies.
AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SMELL?! 😂
Jada???
I was working at a movie theater when this came out! It was so busy! It had to be run in two of the 8 theaters in the multiplex. It sold out over and over, and I watched it 3 times! Needless to say, we sold A LOT of popcorn 🍿!!!!
Fact Number 11: Minty's head was used as a replica for the moon in the opening sequence.
I watch this every 4th of July 📀 🛸 🇺🇸 🎉🎊👽
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The premise of a bunch of alien spaceships over major cities was done in ”V” a tvseries in the 80s
and then the V remake lampshaded it by having some bystander comment that "no, independence day stole the idea from earlier movies"
My favorite movie of all times, fun as hell! 90s at max
It's one of my favorites, too! 😍😍😍
The sequel tho... Let's just pretend it never happened.
You need to watch more movies
President Pullman would have been great on the microphone if he would have been in the WWF during the Attitude years. I have a feeling Vince McMahon used him for inspiration during some promos lol.
Wez early....Cheers Aussie Fam !!
Should be close to bedtime there. Good night! Just woke up here in the Southern Appalachians.
I watch it every year on July 4th. I saw it back in the day with my youngest brother. I miss those good times.
I have the Independence Day Pinball machine.
Sick!
This movie blew my mind back then. I was like 8 or 9 when it came out and I fell in love with it.
But yeah as an adult now I see why critics didn't like it. Despite that I have a soft spot for it.