The Truth About Game Genie Hardware...

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  • @itsgruz
    @itsgruz  Рік тому +234

    Just wanted to say thank you for watching my videos! Your support is absolutely amazing and inspires me to create better videos. You guys are awesome, much more to come! :)

    • @leeum20real
      @leeum20real Рік тому +3

      quick question. do i need the nes black cartridge holder thingamabob?

    • @IrisGalaxis
      @IrisGalaxis Рік тому +3

      Thank you for making them :)

    • @mokkachocolata
      @mokkachocolata Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I love making Game Genie codes!

    • @fritchoffnilsson2574
      @fritchoffnilsson2574 Рік тому

      Just stay true to your format and you will go far. 🤘

    • @eoinmcglinchey32
      @eoinmcglinchey32 Рік тому

      You welcome! It's a great pleasure! 😅😅😅

  • @natemead
    @natemead 10 місяців тому +163

    My mom bought it for me and I was in love with it. Then it disappeared and she said she didn’t want to promote cheating. I’m still devastated at 43

    • @Hellenicheavymetal
      @Hellenicheavymetal 4 місяці тому +28

      that's the most 90's mom thing I've ever heard

    • @ENNEN420
      @ENNEN420 3 місяці тому +2

      This was last week

    • @ROARROARROAR-w7x
      @ROARROARROAR-w7x 3 місяці тому +5

      Are you from a Christian family? 🤣

    • @clodolcmidnights837
      @clodolcmidnights837 2 місяці тому +21

      -buys product specifically made for cheating
      -claims she doesn’t want to promote cheating
      parent logic at its finest

    • @nexboygaming
      @nexboygaming 2 місяці тому

      @@clodolcmidnights837ah yes “logic”

  • @DisparityOfBeliefAndTruth
    @DisparityOfBeliefAndTruth Рік тому +284

    At the time, the NES Game Genie might as well just have been made of actual magic because it was a miraculous marvel to those of us who really sucked at video games.

    • @brian93724
      @brian93724 Рік тому +16

      And for people who tried to play games from the Nintendo Hard phase

    • @phoenixnoire2435
      @phoenixnoire2435 Рік тому +24

      In our defence, video games back then were really hard. Not like the 30 hour interactive movies we have today.

    • @toddlindsay8846
      @toddlindsay8846 9 місяців тому +2

      I had the NES, Super NES, Genesis and GameBoy Game Genies. They really helps me there.

    • @goldcanyon340.
      @goldcanyon340. 9 місяців тому

      Truer words were never spoken.

    • @mattmc5069
      @mattmc5069 9 місяців тому +1

      I suspect it could as the extra weight of the unit pushes down on the pins in the NES. But no real damage to anything else. I used game genie alot as a kid and my NES, which I got in 1989 was still working up untill around 2006

  • @jonathankulesa
    @jonathankulesa Рік тому +516

    Pro tips: You can use the SNES Game Genie to play pretty much every game with extended memory, such as SMW2 and SF Alpha 2, on clone consoles that normally wouldn’t play them, and it’s also a bypass to play Super Famicom games on US consoles…
    Also, on another note, similarly related, the N64 Game Shark would let you play Japanese games on your US consoles… ❤

    • @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro
      @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro Рік тому +46

      The Genesis Game Genie also removed the geo-restriction from Japanese and European copies of Mega Man: The Wily Wars, which didn't get an American cartridge release until _2021._

    • @teranokitty
      @teranokitty Рік тому +7

      Is there an SNES Game Genie model that has a passthru for the extra pins on games like SMW2? Most Game Genies I have seen look like gruz's, which only has the one main set of contacts.

    • @johneygd
      @johneygd Рік тому +11

      But how could yoshi’s island work on the gamegenie if the gamegenie lacks those extra pins???
      Also for what i do understand is that certain games wouldn’t work with the gamegenie by simply checking the memory location and it it detects any data then it assumes that you’re playing on a copy device and thus will refuses itself to load.

    • @exodous02
      @exodous02 Рік тому +12

      Wow, my mind is blown. I didn't know the Game Genie was so useful outside of cheats. I remember there were adapters in the back of game magazines to play import games but if you had a Game Genie or Game Shark you didn't even need one.

    • @evdestroy5304
      @evdestroy5304 Рік тому

      Wait, how does that work

  • @FezTheSpaceBiker
    @FezTheSpaceBiker Рік тому +233

    The Flap on the SNES Game Genie is actually meant to lock into the cartridges where original shell carts usually engage with the power button lock.

    • @miker2876
      @miker2876 Рік тому +27

      thank God someone said this. Nintendo changed the lock design after awhile, but yea

    • @Lomotilian
      @Lomotilian Рік тому +13

      Yeah, Nintendo was faced with legal action over the locking mechanism for their carts, so they redesigned the carts to not lock into older consoles, and the locking ridge was removed from newer consoles. Starting with the GameBoy Color cartridges on their handhelds did away with the locking feature too.

    • @calebcooke6703
      @calebcooke6703 3 місяці тому

      I came here to say the same thing. The lock got discontinued, but you can see the notch on the game genie that locked it into the SNES as well.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL 3 місяці тому +1

      200th like

    • @mute_fish
      @mute_fish 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MASTEROFEVIL 1st like

  • @AmaroqStarwind
    @AmaroqStarwind Рік тому +1245

    This reminds me of the myth that sitting too close to a TV would burn your eyes out. The real reason parents were advised not to let their kids sit too close to their TVs, or for too long, was because a very specific model of CRT television back in yesteryear had defective shielding and was putting out ungodly amounts of x-rays.
    Edit: Now I realize there’s more to the story.

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark Рік тому +131

      Pretty much the first ever color TVs made had that problem, as shielding isn't such a concern on black and white TVs due to their lower operating voltage.

    • @southernflatland
      @southernflatland Рік тому +117

      That wasn't just one specific model of TV, that was more like most models made before around 1970, before they started measuring and regulating the amount of X-rays they would emit.
      Back before then, a common tweak TV repair shops might do would be to tweak the high voltage levels up just a little bit to get a brighter picture, but nobody really knew the amount of additional X-rays this would cause.
      So basically it was a two-fold problem, partly bad design decisions, and partly repair shops ignorantly doing a quick hack when the customer would complain their picture seemed a little dimmer than they'd like.

    • @shutupandwatch69
      @shutupandwatch69 Рік тому +43

      It's too keep your head out of the way 😂

    • @jirikajzar3247
      @jirikajzar3247 Рік тому +31

      Oh, my grandma was also saying that and also added that there is lead in the TV. Like I'm gonna get poisoned by it just by being too close...

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark Рік тому +36

      @@jirikajzar3247 You weren't licking the glass or the circuit board? That's the only way lead could be a concern.

  • @Nolano386
    @Nolano386 Рік тому +124

    Fun fact, as far as the NES goes, if you have an NES that has trouble reading games, a game genie sometimes can make the difference and allow you to use it without replacing the 72 pin connector.

    • @audaxdreik
      @audaxdreik Рік тому +19

      This was my first thought on seeing the video. I don't think it ever crossed my mind to blame the Game Genie for ruining my system, but I had a handful of well-loved games that couldn't make a solid connection without the GG. It was a life saver, even when I wasn't using it!

    • @hostileX7
      @hostileX7 Рік тому +12

      None of my games worked properly without the Game Genie! I always thought it was the universe's sick joke that the thing that(WE THOUGHT) wrecked our systems in the first place, was the only thing capable of making it work 😅!

    • @witecatj6007
      @witecatj6007 Рік тому +4

      I know this works with the SNES one. I have a copy of Actraiser that was damaged and the Game Genie made it playable. Sure you can only use save slot 2, but it worked!

    • @ShadowAngel-lt8nw
      @ShadowAngel-lt8nw Рік тому +6

      @@hostileX7 That usually means that your cartridge connectors are dirty. Nintendo consoles are really finnicky compared to every other consoles (My Sega consoles eat everything for example, even my completely broken Eternal Champions, which was just the PCB, scratched and dirty) when it comes to dirt on the connectors.
      The best way to get games going: Rub the connectors down with Isopropanol. Insert the cartridge and pull it back until it's right on the console edge (toward you)
      And remember: NEVER blow the connectors. While that is a myth that "worked", it actually screws up the pins, as your blowing will just drop a lost of saliva onto them, corroding the pins.

    • @UniqBlue
      @UniqBlue Рік тому +3

      I think the reason was because of How jank it went into the system. And as a Result, Just stuck closer to the Pins than the normal games.

  • @jessperson9750
    @jessperson9750 Рік тому +51

    Been using a game Genie for NES for over 25 years & i got that NES out of a truck bed & dumped water out of it. I've had zero problems with the NES & game Genie over the years. Kinda makes me believe if the water & the Game Genie combined haven't killed the NES that there is absolutely no chance a Game Genie could mess up an NES on it's own.

    • @phoenixnoire2435
      @phoenixnoire2435 Рік тому +6

      Ah... the days when products were built to last... Good times.

    • @ironhell813
      @ironhell813 9 місяців тому +4

      Once found a genesis in garbage can and it worked fine

  • @Aurochhunter
    @Aurochhunter Рік тому +122

    After noticing that level cheats for Battletoads only differed by one letter, I was able to discover the cheat code to get to the final level where you fight the Dark Queen, as it wasn’t listed among the other codes.

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer Рік тому +19

      Related to this, you could also "swap" certain letters with specific other letters, say, Z for X. So you'd find one of the listed codes for a game but instead of entering X as the manual showed, you'd instead enter in Z. Doing so would sometimes change nothing or yield unintended consequences. I remember doing this on a particular code for Blades of Steel and it ended up giving us infinite fight where even after all of our energy points were gone, it wouldn't drop us back to the game.
      Good times.

    • @Lastjustice
      @Lastjustice 9 місяців тому +9

      I did the same as a kid, you either change the first or last letter to go to every stage of the game from base password in battletoads. I had it all written down as a kid as I mapped them all out all 13 levels. My lil brothers would use the code is left out to easily beat games. I'd tinker passwords as I'd look at the pattern of the codes in the manual, and see what part remained consistent between the lines. I'd change the parts that was the variable and see what happened. I'd find some fun results like making your character in TMNT 2 so powerful you could one shot almost any enemy, aside from the last two bosses, Shredder and Kraig. They died in 2 hits instead.

    • @fatalfngrz6831
      @fatalfngrz6831 7 місяців тому +2

      I swear that game was unbeatable without a game genie

    • @johnsmith6217
      @johnsmith6217 3 місяці тому

      ​@@fatalfngrz6831 I think I passed the second level once when I was a kid. Now I have homebrew and can save whenever I want.

  • @DumbBunny5328
    @DumbBunny5328 Рік тому +224

    If you’re concerned about your game genie messing up your NES, there’s always the blinking light win cartridge connector which eliminates pressing down on the cartridge entirely

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Рік тому +17

      Good luck getting a blinky light win. They are sold out and haven't been able to get one for years.

    • @magicmike618
      @magicmike618 Рік тому +4

      The game genie bypasses the lockout chip anyway, you could always clip the leg on the chip

    • @exodous02
      @exodous02 Рік тому +8

      The blinking light was caused by the lockout chip. If you have a NES look into disabling it, you will never get that again and it doesn't really do anything but make sure you are playing legal NES carts.

    • @DumbBunny5328
      @DumbBunny5328 Рік тому +5

      @@exodous02 disabling the 10NES chip only prevents the blinking light however it won’t cause games to boot perfectly every time especially if the cartridge connector is damaged

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Рік тому +5

      @exodous02
      That is because it doesn't make the proper connection between the cart and the system to read the lock out chips. So even if you do cut the leg still doesn't fix the problem 100% because the pins are a major problem. Those after market 72 pin connectors suck balls. I have gone through 2 of them.

  • @ekahnoman7331
    @ekahnoman7331 Рік тому +44

    The flap, on the SNES Game Genie, was there to "lock" on to the SNES cartridge.
    Earlier released titles, like Pilotwings and Super Mario World, had a different design on the front of the cartridge. This was to keep it more secure while inserted in the console.
    That flap took advantage of this design and later SNES carts removed it completely.

    • @BrandonHann
      @BrandonHann Рік тому +5

      To add on to this, early versions of the console used that notch in the early games to lock the cartridge into the console when the power button was slid up. Apparently, kids and parents would try pulling games out while the unit was on and lots of people ended up broking this lock mechanism, so Nintendo just did away with it in later releases.

    • @lyianx
      @lyianx Рік тому +1

      @@BrandonHann Which begs the question, WHY were they trying to remove the game with the unit on? thats just dumb.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Рік тому

      1991-1993 Cartridges had this little Oval in the Cross section. 1993-1997 Cartridges had the Rectangle.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Рік тому

      @@BrandonHann I remember. The Change Occurred in March 1993. I got SNES for Christmas in 1991. I remember each Cartridge made its first two years having a little Oval Design on its Cross section.

    • @ekahnoman7331
      @ekahnoman7331 Рік тому +1

      @@lyianx
      Because kids are careless and destructive.

  • @MotherKojiro
    @MotherKojiro Рік тому +47

    I used to love that compartment with the code book on the back of the Game Gear version; I never knew that the Game Boy version had something like that, since my first Game Boy was a Super Game Boy.

    • @abigails4088
      @abigails4088 Рік тому +1

      SGB was one of their best ideas, wish it had been better integrated and executed.

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O Рік тому +1

      With a bit of modification you could actually run the Game Genie with a Super Gameboy and it would work just fine

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O Рік тому +1

      @@abigails4088 Like the WiiU was for the Switch, the Super Gameboy was sort of a precursor to the Gameboy Color

  • @MisterAzathoth
    @MisterAzathoth Рік тому +27

    I bought a Game Action Replay for NES when it was first released years ago. The instruction manual had directions for taking a pair of pliers and removing that metal strip that holds the cart in place. I specifically remember a quote in the manual saying that strip was there to prevent you from using devices like the Game Action Replay.
    I didn't think twice about it at the time, but it's pretty off the wall in hindsight.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 9 місяців тому

      I wonder if that's where Apple got their ideas?... 🙃

  • @darktetsuya
    @darktetsuya Рік тому +110

    I kinda figured the worst thing that might happen is corrupting your save data on certain games with the wrong code (that or the pins thing I never considered originally) it definitely sounded like a smear campaign by nintendo cus you know how much they *hated* the damn thing. even today I see new codes being discovered all the time to do the craziest stuff, so the GG definitely still has its fans.

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P Рік тому +5

      YEAAAA, the Game Genie, and various other cheating devices, all have a special place in many people's hearts, so it really doesn't surprise me that they still have a dedicated following.

    • @Anomaly188
      @Anomaly188 Рік тому +11

      It's a basic hex editor. Nearly all 8 and 16-bit emulators have game genie functionality built in to the program and all you need to know is the correct codes. I for example have several cheats saved to run when playing Zombies Ate My Neighbors like unlimited lives and bazooka ammo, because the game is long and balls-out hard so I'd rather not torture myself trying to get through it.

    • @iamtheb
      @iamtheb Рік тому +6

      My GameShark killed my Diddy Kong Racer save for 64. I think like all the textures disappeared. I had put a lot of time into that save and 12 year-old me was crushed.

    • @Eener1000
      @Eener1000 Рік тому +6

      Displaced Gamers is a channel about how NES games were coded and sometimes also offers Gamegenie codes to fix some original bugs or wonky coding which is quite cool.

    • @abigails4088
      @abigails4088 Рік тому +3

      @@iamtheb yeah, I've played start *TO FINISH* (but never actually COMPLETED) Final Fantasy 7 like... *FOUR TIMES* over the years...two times the save data was corrupted by my using a gameshark (playthrough 1 was legit, but I used a multi-memcard and several of its "pages" failed, notably my 80% complete FF7 saves) ... My 2nd and 3rd playthroughs were using a GS to skip the "grindy-grind" parts I'd done on playthrough 1... but the GS and I guess some of the codes I used, corrupted both of those saves... my 4th playthrough I did literally everything except fight Sephiroth... all chars 99, all materia including grinding master sets the hard way XD and I kept backups of that save. I just got... SATISFIED...

  • @PixelatedH2O
    @PixelatedH2O Рік тому +31

    I remember there was a subscription service for updated code books. I don't remember how many I ended up getting but the Gameboy books were especially difficult to keep track of because of their size.

    • @Lastjustice
      @Lastjustice 9 місяців тому +2

      I got a few extra books, but they were really thin. At some point gamign magazines would include codes so they covered it.

    • @jesternario
      @jesternario 9 місяців тому

      Really? I kept the book in its built-in holder for the gameboy model. I still have it, book intact. Now the NES one, THAT is one I need a code book for.

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball Рік тому +105

    The NES Game genie is what taught my brother to read. He was 3 and he would always ask me to put in his codes for him because he couldn't read. One day I got fed up with him asking and said no. About 30 mins later he comes to our mom with the codebook and goes "Mom Mom, That says Infinite". By the time they tested him in Kindergarten he was reading at a grade 7 level.
    Now here we are 31 years later and he's a Teacher Librarian and assistant coach of his schools E-Sports team.

    • @Ckbtony1983
      @Ckbtony1983 Рік тому +17

      Bro was unlocking trophy's long before it was a thing

    • @rockfresh1993
      @rockfresh1993 Рік тому +5

      Faxx my bro got tired of putting GTA codes in for me too 😂😂 😑 but I could read tho since 5

    • @TheTrueRman
      @TheTrueRman Рік тому +6

      You gave your bro the Konami Code to Life

    • @dcsniper4637
      @dcsniper4637 Рік тому +1

      You're brother belongs to Anonymous now 😂

    • @svdzcbshf6912
      @svdzcbshf6912 Рік тому +1

      And then eeeeveryyyyybooooooodyyyyyy clapped

  • @kevinmeyers7821
    @kevinmeyers7821 Рік тому +24

    The game genie for NES is actually stackable. I only had 2 of them, but it was fun to be able to put in 6 codes instead of just 3.

    • @brian93724
      @brian93724 Рік тому +3

      i was curious what would happen if you put a mega stack of game genies and one game into an nes

    • @robtoodope8270
      @robtoodope8270 Рік тому

      Same with the SNES and Genesis

    • @marscaleb
      @marscaleb Рік тому +2

      @@brian93724 You could start re-writing the game code!

    • @brian93724
      @brian93724 Рік тому +1

      @@marscaleb what

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 9 місяців тому +1

      You'd have to be fairly careful with that arrangement, though. Once you've got a long enough stack of cartridges hooked up to the cartridge slot, you'll be drawing too much power from the console and might fry the power supply circuitry. ⚠
      To work around that risk you could use a homebrew power injector which breaks-out the VCC lines to the cartridge bus and provides external power for the stack from e.g. a USB power supply. Remember though that data lines back to the console are signalled relative to ground, so this means you have to have the external PSU *and* the console connected to the same GND (0v) and this might pose risks of its own.
      YMMV and AYOR, but HTH! 😇

  • @TVsMrNeil
    @TVsMrNeil Рік тому +15

    4:02 I see what you did there.

    • @s0cializedpsych0path
      @s0cializedpsych0path 2 місяці тому +2

      Took me a couple rewinds to see what you meant. 😂😂😂😂

  • @BlankSpacePub
    @BlankSpacePub 9 місяців тому +4

    As you mentioned, the NES Game Genie will bend the pins out of shape, but before you go buying a new pin connector piece, you can just bend the pins back in place yourself using a thin flathead screwdriver or even a knife. I did this to my NES about a year ago and it plays like brand new.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 місяці тому

      Yes, that's the only one I can see actually damaging the hardware. The other ones have negligible impact on the systems themself.

  • @CacheXt
    @CacheXt 8 місяців тому +1

    The SNES flap was also a locking mechanism. Some of the cartridges have a slot instead of a slope which prevented the cartridge from being removed while the power was on. The on switch moved a slider forward.

  • @natr0n
    @natr0n Рік тому +21

    The snes flap was to lock in the game which has a notch for the genies peg. Later games removed that peg lock to save on plastic cost most likely.

    • @teranokitty
      @teranokitty Рік тому +5

      Yeah, I think that part of why later games removed the peg lock was to save on plastic like you said, but I think another big reason was because there were probably some North American gamers who complained about not being able to pull the old peg-style cartridges out without using the eject button. The later "peg-less" cartridges can be pulled out of the SNES without the eject button.

    • @danbosch-
      @danbosch- Рік тому +5

      people kept breaking their systems by not using the eject button in the middle of the console.
      so the later release games took the lock notch out of the cartridges.

    • @pyromethious
      @pyromethious Рік тому +2

      @@teranokitty Yeah, I remember yelling at younger kids to not pull the cartridge out while the system was still running because of that! >.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 9 місяців тому

      @@teranokitty the eject button launching your games was the best part though, why would anyone just yank them out?!

  • @blakegriplingph
    @blakegriplingph Рік тому +10

    There also existed a Famicom version of the Game Genie made by the company whom Codemasters contracted to manufacture them. They're incredibly rare though, and I imagine it would command a pretty penny on eBay should one show up.

  • @WhiteJarrah
    @WhiteJarrah Рік тому +10

    One great benefit of the Game Genie for Genesis is that it allowed your imports to work on a 32X. For whatever reason, the Magic Key adapter to play imports doesn't work with the 32X attached, but you can use the Game Genie to achieve the same bypass effect.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 місяці тому

      That's probably a bug, or possibly because by the time the 32x came out, the Saturn was only a few months a way and just about any sales for the system were worth getting. Also, international trade of such things wasn't as well-developed as it is now.

  • @Ysmir_The_Ancient
    @Ysmir_The_Ancient 9 місяців тому +4

    The flap you are talking about @ 3:40 is to lock on to the SNES cartridge!!

  • @stephensteele2844
    @stephensteele2844 Рік тому +4

    One of my most treasured possessions is a local
    Store was giving away a game genie backpack when you bought a NES game genie, I still cart my MTG decks around in the backpack to this day!

  • @alleycatjack4562
    @alleycatjack4562 Рік тому +1

    By the time I got a NES Game Genie, my 72 pin connector was already messed up. I used to just jam a hot wheels in on top of the game carts to make it work. After I got the Game Genie, I didnt have that problem. One of the plastic tabs on top of the Game Genie broke, and it has just lived inside my NES since.

  • @Marc_Araujo
    @Marc_Araujo Рік тому +9

    I love the Game Genie and think no respectable collection is complete without its respective Genie. I have one for the NES, SNES, and Genesis (they're also the same ones I had as a kid). Thank you for the memories, Galoob!!

  • @SwapPartLLC
    @SwapPartLLC 9 місяців тому +2

    I used to stack 3 NES Game Genies for certain games and it allowed me to use up to 9 codes.😂 It was necessary to put something under them, like a couple of books, to support them

  • @theSato
    @theSato Рік тому +3

    Dang, its so cool to see your videos doing so well and hitting triple digits now. You've been here for a long time and you've always been a chill dude, so it makes me happy to see.

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar 4 місяці тому +1

    I've got a few notes on this. For one, the SNES Game Genie didn't have any passthrough for expansion chip pins used in a number of games like Star Fox, Yoshi's Island, or Super Mario RPG. As a result, it's incompatible with almost all games that use expansion chips. I have to recommend getting a Pro Action Replay (preferably the Mark III) for the console instead. The Mark II and III both resolve the expansion chip issue by accepting ALL the pins from those games and passing them through, and the III even allows full circumventing of region locks. It's thorough enough it'll even lie about what video mode the system is using to bypass certain later games that software checked to ensure they weren't being played in the "wrong" region.
    The NES Game Genie PCB is in fact thicker, though it's hard to tell by eyeballing it. Calipers do the trick. This only really becomes an issue when attempting to use it in the redesigned top loading NES, where it struggles to fit without using a special adapter you could mail in for. Yes, you plugged your adapter into an adapter.
    I had heard rumors that the Genesis version ALWAYS corrupted any game with save data, but I hadn't experienced that myself. I think perhaps the most popular games on the console are just especially easy to accidentally code in ways that corrupt the save data.
    Lastly, the Game Genie is, at the end of the day, hex editing the game. It just doesn't look like it because they decided to use a special "encoding system" that converted the hex code into letters that were supposed to resemble "magic words", for that Game Genie branding. I think this was the biggest mistake they made. Hex editing is so much clearer in what you're doing, in many cases, than this disguised cryptograph nonsense. I think that's the one thing they shouldn't have done in the design of these things. Oh, and the SNES expansion chip issue.

  • @HarmonyOmega
    @HarmonyOmega Рік тому +3

    I may have been born in 2002 but we had the top loader NES for some time. Asked for the game genie for my birthday at some point; it worked obviously but I remember it at some point getting stuck and the black plastic part breaking off because of that.

  • @Xellos357
    @Xellos357 10 місяців тому +2

    @3:30 the "Flap" was to help hold the games in the game genie. Without making a long and drawn out explanation, the older SNES games (FF2/FF4) had a little notch where that notch prong on the inside of the flap would connect to. Compare the notch with the newer games (FF3/FF6) which was no longer a notch, these are the games which the older version of game genie did not work on. Anyhow, if you have questions I can answer them for ya. I owned one of these bad boys as soon as they came out like 30 years ago! haha

  • @urbynwyldcat9131
    @urbynwyldcat9131 Рік тому +4

    The little code books are so cute! So glad to have a new Gruz video!

  • @jesternario
    @jesternario 9 місяців тому +1

    I remember trying to make my own codes with random letters. Found one for Fester’s Quest that made the enemies invisible. Fun times.

  • @codemonkeyattack
    @codemonkeyattack Рік тому +3

    It's crazy to see the OG Gameboy one, I had a Game Shark for my GBC and it was so much more compact. Did a U-Shape around the back to plug in your game.

  • @djvelocity
    @djvelocity 5 місяців тому +2

    I actually permanently screwed up a saved game in 1998 for the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time on Nintendo 64.
    My friend could not beat it, and I had a GameShark, so I beat it for him, by playing through with cheats, but then suddenly all sorts of weird stuff happened like he had 999 apples or he had -1 arrows which would not fire even though you could see the arrow in Links hands, it really kind of broke the game for him. He ended up having to start a new saved file. For my hard work, because it took me like 20 hours to play through with cheats, he gave me 10 Japanese Pokémon cards.
    This is so whatever but I actually still have them lol

  • @leigharalucier8220
    @leigharalucier8220 11 місяців тому +3

    Man I sure miss my gameboy and Super Nintendo. All my video game stuff went missing that I had when I was a kid. Just bought a Nintendo the other day so now I’m going to slowly build my collection back. Thanks for the great video. I’m 40 and to be honest I’ve never heard of a game genie until I watched your video 😮😂 thanks again 🎉

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 місяці тому

      Do yourself a favor and get the GameBoy Light if you get another. The backlight is great, and can be turned off when it's not needed.

  • @cerberus276
    @cerberus276 Рік тому +1

    Had most of these and never had a problem at all. Learned hex decimal making my own codes. Good times with my bros.

  • @FusionArmorX
    @FusionArmorX Рік тому +3

    Here's a fun thing: After losing the lawsuit with Galoob, the NES-101 (the top loader) was designed in such a way that the regular Game Genie would not fit into the cartridge port.
    Rather than make a revised Game Genie, Galoob instead released an "adapter" (which was literally just a passthrough with a shell) to solve the problem.

    • @mrh829
      @mrh829 Рік тому +3

      The passthrough adapter did have to change the angle of the cartridge edge that would insert into the console, since the top loader requires cartridges to go straight in, and the Game Genie's design had to mount that board at an angle so that it could interface with the front loader's ZIF connector without clicking the game down.

    • @FusionArmorX
      @FusionArmorX Рік тому

      @@mrh829 Huh, that explains why the stack of carts always sat at a slight angle.

  • @idonttext9783
    @idonttext9783 Рік тому +1

    I remember playing excite bike with this back in the day jumping off the screen.

  • @Geno2733
    @Geno2733 Рік тому +23

    In hindsight, galoob could have made the GG with a long cable with the pin connector lying flat on whatever the console is sitting on. This way the cartridge isn't flopping around and f'cking up the connectors on either end.
    Maybe 6 to 12 inches to allow the cartridge to lie flat beside the console (like a cassette tape shaped adapter for CD players)

    • @IrisGalaxis
      @IrisGalaxis Рік тому +3

      Similar to a HES dongle (the company HES made bootleg NES carts with a dongle for an original cart so that the lockout chip from the original cart can be used, they look pretty cool, pretty much like what you described)

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin Рік тому +1

      You can literally just bend the pins back tho...no need for replacement unless something else happened.

    • @abigails4088
      @abigails4088 Рік тому +5

      @@freedustin it takes a minute amount of technical understanding to do that though... to say nothing of how easy it is to slip and damage one of the connectors.
      but even repairing a damaged connector is easier than REPLACING THE ENTIRE COMPONENT... desoldering and then seating and soldering the new one in, having to control spillage of solder while desoldering/soldering on... how many connections did the NES cartridges use? 24? 30?

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Рік тому +5

      Don’t know if this affected the design, but Codemasters knew either they or Galoob would likely be submitting the NES Game Genie as an exhibit in court, a court that probably wasn’t all that familiar with video game consoles yet. The more the Game Genie looked like an inoffensive bit of plastic slipped between two pieces of official Nintendo hardware, and the less it looked like some sort of hardwire car-thief Frankenstein job hijacking the console for its own ends, the better.

    • @IrisGalaxis
      @IrisGalaxis Рік тому +2

      @@MegaZeta that's a good point

  • @XYGamingRemedyG
    @XYGamingRemedyG Рік тому +1

    I know this isn't the epic voice guy channel, but I'd love to hear you go "INCONCEIVABLE" because your voice sounds very reminiscent of that actor.

  • @note2owns
    @note2owns Рік тому +4

    There was an action replay that I bought for the PS1 and it featured a comparative search and you could actually edit or freeze hex addresses. There was a warning with it that you could corrupt your games. From what I read it was taken off the market due to this reason.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 9 місяців тому +2

      I doubt the AR could have done _permanent_ corruption to any games on the PS1 given the latter were pressed CD-ROMs and could not have been updated/re-written, but what was probably experienced was damage to game _operation_ caused by abnormal data in save files created when the AR was being used. 😇
      tl,dr; The AR would be perfectly safe to use on a PS1 with any game, but you should remove all routinely used memory cards from the console and - If you do want to save AR modified games - Use a *dedicated and clearly labelled* memory card for that purpose. 👍

    • @marcusbullock630
      @marcusbullock630 4 місяці тому

      i know the ones you're talking about, it actually was marketed toward people that like making cheats from scratch, and they used the tomb raider III climb any wall code as an example lol

  • @Ttw1976
    @Ttw1976 Рік тому +1

    I definitely made up my own codes for Street Fighter and was changing the color of Ken and Ryu's outfit & fireballs.

  • @TempAccount358
    @TempAccount358 Рік тому +9

    In MegaMan 2, one of the boss levels of Wily needed you to die because your crusher bombs run out. First you had to destroy walls, then die, recharge your crusher bombs while replaying the level, then destroy the boss cannons. Playing with infinitive health will prevent you finishing this level 😅

    • @throwbackswiththetechnodrome
      @throwbackswiththetechnodrome Рік тому +6

      I know the level you’re talking about and had tremendous trouble with it as a kid, but you actually don’t have to die! If you destroy the guns in a certain order and use I believe item 3 to scale a wall instead of blowing up one or two of the doors you actually have enough Crash bombs to beat the boss without replenishing

    • @marcusbullock630
      @marcusbullock630 4 місяці тому

      that's not a soft-lock, that's you being unable to beat a boss with the mega buster lol

  • @mresturk9336
    @mresturk9336 7 місяців тому +2

    4:18 the only thing that sucked about that toggle switch on the SNES version was it was very easy to accidently reset the game when using it. The SNES game genie had a very loose connection to the console, so after a little wear-n-tear even the slightest nudge could cause the pins to disconnect.

  • @TeacherGus
    @TeacherGus Рік тому +6

    So good to see you're finally gaining the traction you deserve, gruz!

  • @Inzoum
    @Inzoum Рік тому +1

    the NES game genie ruined the connectors on my NES as a kid. The explanation I got from the repairman was that the Game Genie’s PCB was just a few microns too thick and forced the connectors a little wider, and original games no longer worked unless used with the Game Genie, because they didn’t make contact correctly anymore on the gaping pins. so… yeah, not cool.

  • @elfguy4053
    @elfguy4053 Рік тому +4

    Great video. I happen to have gotten two game genies for the NES. I found out though trying it but you can daisy chain two or possible more together. It load each one separately while giving you 6 code lines.

    • @mrh829
      @mrh829 Рік тому +1

      I've known people who daisy chained up to 6 Game Genies; at that point, it was necessary to use supporting blocks/books to hold up the end of the NES cartridge, but that also gets to the point of being impractical because I can't think of too many games that I'd want to use 18 codes on at the same time.

    • @rollinontheboard
      @rollinontheboard 4 місяці тому

      @@mrh829 What if wAn't 2 (to) mmake mario Very mes mix i fyou know what i;m syaing

  • @bunnybreaker
    @bunnybreaker Рік тому +2

    Fun times with the OG Gameboy Game Genie. My friend and I were trying out random codes and seeing what happened and he magically made a code for Killer Instinct that skipped straight to the last boss.
    Feels crazy cheat codes are DLC now.

  • @trust-me-im-vik
    @trust-me-im-vik Рік тому +4

    3:13 now wonder, how does it look like with "Sonic and Knuckles" and "Sonic 3" cartridges

  • @charlescox290
    @charlescox290 11 місяців тому +2

    1:55 springy pins is not a design flaw. It is an engineering advancement that forces connections even in worn pins. Without the springy pins, if the connectors wear down they will eventually stop making a connection. With springy pins, the connection is made even with excessive wear.

  • @BlackFantasy470
    @BlackFantasy470 Рік тому +5

    Interesting video. I never used one myself on any old console myself. Wasn't there one for the N64 as well? I believe remembering advertising in printed magazines in the late 90s.

    • @itsgruz
      @itsgruz  Рік тому +3

      I believe there was a Game Shark for N64 that looked a lot like a Game Genie.

    • @BlackFantasy470
      @BlackFantasy470 Рік тому +2

      That might be what I remembered.

    • @siral2000
      @siral2000 Рік тому +1

      I had the 64 Game Shark, I liked it because it allowed you to make your own cheats. If I remember right you could get into the GS menu while the game was running. From there you could have it mark everything in memory that had a value. (Like lives or currency) Then you go back to the game and change the value somehow. Then you enter the menu again and update the value to narrow down what part of the memory represents what your looking for. You repeat until you only have one left and set it to what you want or freeze it. Sometimes finding cheats was more fun then the game.
      I never had a problem with it damaging the games I had, but I'm sure there were games that had anti-cheat or just didn't work well with it. One person in the comments said it bricked one of their games.

  • @nensondubois
    @nensondubois Рік тому

    There are only two issue with the Game Genies; one is that the Game Boy Game Genie units will not properly fit into a Super Game Boy / 2 without bending the pins, putting stress physically onto the pins potentially damaging both the Game Genies and the consoles. There was an adapter called, appropriately enough, the Game Genie to Super Game Boy adapter that was only avaliable via mail order. The second problem was with the NES top-loader systems that may permentantly cause the Game Genie to become stuck inside the console. Agian, this was resolved by way of an "official" adapter via mail order.

  • @Wflash00
    @Wflash00 Рік тому +4

    I just noticed that the Super Nintendo one doesn't have the extra pins for expansion hardware, like the Super FX or SA-1. It won't work with those games sadly

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 10 місяців тому +1

    1:26 Ah, you’re taking me back! I love it!

  • @staudinga
    @staudinga Рік тому +4

    Wow, I thought this was going to be a very short video, but you really went all the way. Nice analysis!
    P.S. I didn't know that Game Genies were made by Codemasters (or maybe I forgot about that fact). Very interesting!

  • @goldcanyon340.
    @goldcanyon340. 9 місяців тому

    Thanks! Game Genie was the best possible Christmas gift I received in 1991. I only saw the endings to so many of my games because of it.

  • @logicplague
    @logicplague Рік тому +4

    Genesis Game Genie + Sonic and Knuckles + Sonic 3 = Skyscraper

    • @Traumaqueenamy
      @Traumaqueenamy Рік тому +1

      LOL I have all three and have done that. 😆

    • @mchenrynick
      @mchenrynick Рік тому +1

      Bump it ever so slightly and your game resets :/

    • @seancdaug
      @seancdaug Рік тому +4

      For extra credit, have the whole tower inserted into a Genesis with the 32X attached. 🙂

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague Рік тому +2

      @@Traumaqueenamy I loved that Sonic and Knuckles gimmick, also worked with Sonic 2 I believe, you could play as Knuckles.

    • @adamh9077
      @adamh9077 9 місяців тому

      What happens if you hook a game genie into another game genie and then a game? Two sets of coding could possibly be used 🤷

  • @hiramjew1523
    @hiramjew1523 Рік тому +1

    I still have my game genie for gameboy from the summer of 93 with the booklet still in there. Sadly the galoob logo and button labels have completely faded away but the unit still works. I thought having the booklet stored in the unit was awesome but sadly as newer games came out I didn’t know the codes for half my games lol. By the time Pokemon Red/Blue came out I was able to use the game genie to get Mew. Some of the kids at school would approach me to unlock Mew for them on their file. Great memories!

  • @mmmmmmmmmmm10
    @mmmmmmmmmmm10 Рік тому +4

    1:10 i love how we call connections male or female based on whether its like a penis or a vagina. Who was the first person to come up with that naming convention? Essentially the NES is a female, and our cartidges are male.

  • @Leahi84
    @Leahi84 Рік тому +1

    I have such fond memories of my NES Game Genie. Used it to finish so many games as a kid, I never would have been able to otherwise.

  • @dominick253
    @dominick253 9 місяців тому +3

    0:05 no

  • @YaGirlJuniper
    @YaGirlJuniper Рік тому +1

    3:20 The "flap" on the SNES Game Genie actually locked the cartridges into place if you had the older type of cartridge, which had a pill-shaped groove that the SNES would slide a tab into, locking it in place and keeping you from pulling it out of the system while the power was on. This was eventually phased out for the newer type of cartridge, which had a flat and open surface underneath where the lock would normally be. This unfortunately rendered both the game genie's flap and the SNES' locking mechanism useless, except as a means of helping the games contact the pins.
    Presumably, these locking mechanisms cost a lot of plastic when making cartridge bodies, and were primarily an anti-piracy feature. Once it was no longer effective as an anti-piracy feature, these sorts of cartridges stopped being manufactured to save plastic.

  • @halogamer8600
    @halogamer8600 Рік тому +3

    plz dont say what you said at 01:16 as that is very transphobic =] thanks

    • @THE_CARBON
      @THE_CARBON Рік тому +1

      🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @halogamer8600
      @halogamer8600 Рік тому +2

      @@THE_CARBON found the 7 year old using mommy's computer :3

    • @XtremeGamerRPG
      @XtremeGamerRPG Рік тому

      @@halogamer8600 They typed it quick cause she wants it back

    • @charlieasalgadosalgado1369
      @charlieasalgadosalgado1369 9 місяців тому

      Oh be quit I don’t see anything wrong with females plus that just proves that you don’t like women

    • @charlieasalgadosalgado1369
      @charlieasalgadosalgado1369 9 місяців тому +1

      @@halogamer8600 dude shut up you’re actually pretty sexist for getting mad at him, saying she

  • @lordjaraxxus5418
    @lordjaraxxus5418 Рік тому

    That explains why my cousin's NES never really worked whenever I was there to play it. There was a Game Genie left in it for years and it was never removed whenever I was there.

  • @howardsternssmicrophone9332
    @howardsternssmicrophone9332 7 місяців тому

    I remember getting this for NES, and SNES back in the day. It was pretty awesome, but some of the codes for some games worked better than others. It was great for Super Mario Bros 3. I always used the permanent Hammer Bros costume. I remember even saving money, and ordering the extra books with more codes in it for other games. Took like 6 weeks to get them, but those were the days.

  • @defresh3339
    @defresh3339 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video about game genie! I saw one here in Texas at a Half Price Books store once, and we own an OG NES system, and I still regret NOT buying that Game Genie to this day.... 😢

  • @AshaTheGameGenie
    @AshaTheGameGenie Рік тому +1

    I didnt know about the code on and off switches! You did a great job showing these off in a compact fashion. Good stuff! 😊

  • @QueenSunstar
    @QueenSunstar Рік тому +1

    I had the game genie for the original gameboy. I loved creating and testing my own codes.
    I wish I could find my code book with my codes written down. I had a code for making Link impervious to damage, and able to walk on water.
    That game genie and my original gameboy kept me busy while receiving my chemo, and entertained me during hospital stays.

  • @Sasavicz
    @Sasavicz 9 місяців тому +1

    Fun fact, you can use 4 + NES game genies in series to get 3 codes each ;) (I cant remember every game but some games can't get power if you use too many I swear I have a memory of use using 6 on a game lol) (we used a tupperwear cup to hold up the end on the game tower)

  • @turduckengaming1594
    @turduckengaming1594 9 місяців тому +1

    Closed video at 3:55 because he didn't use the flap properly. The cartridges made at the snes gg's release window were different and the flap would Pop into the game cartridge thus securing it. The game cartridge design was eventually changed to a smooth design to dissuaded cheaters as the non-secure holding of tge cartridge would cause the gameplay to glitch and frequently freeze altogether if a little shaking was introduced to the environment.........

  • @Angryhelder
    @Angryhelder 9 місяців тому

    The flap on the SNES version was designed to lock into the first generation carts where there was a slot that the SNES would lock into when the power switch was turned on preventing accidental pulling the game out while it was on. This design was changed on newer carts where that flap was useless.

  • @PrinceSilvermane
    @PrinceSilvermane 9 місяців тому +1

    One of the rumours I remember hearing about was that certain codes could break your game or console. I'm pretty sure that the most that might happen out of that would be save corruption or causing a crash if you were writing values to places you shouldn't.

  • @Islandswamp
    @Islandswamp Рік тому

    Mine helped my NES cartridge tray wear out more quickly when I was a kid.
    My dad fixed it and he was my hero

  • @rockster1385jh
    @rockster1385jh Рік тому +1

    I've got a game genie for my 1989 Sega Genesis 12 years ago...
    love it

  • @gamelard1963
    @gamelard1963 Рік тому +1

    i had the action replay for my gamecube and a gameshark for the GBA lol loved them a lot

  • @Blink_____
    @Blink_____ Рік тому +1

    2:41
    The toughness of the connection between game genie and NES cart was likely manufacturing cost saving, and not a necessity. it's pretty evident by the fact Game Genie comes with a giant black pull tab you are supposed to use to help remove the entire assembly from the deck. You even demonstrated it in the video despite the top being off.

  • @deathsceane
    @deathsceane Рік тому +1

    What I'd like to know is if it'll work on a Japanese console via a 72-60 pin converter. For those who don't know Famicom the Japanese NES uses 60 Pin cartridges where as US NES has 72 pins.
    I'm guessing it'll most likely not work since its basically linking 3 carts together, 4 if you use the Top Loader adapter.
    One fun thing to mention about Game Genie, it was also another means of playing import games on Genesis and to an extent SNES. I know with some Genesis games it would require a code to bypass the region lock.

  • @mrmacross
    @mrmacross Рік тому +1

    I remember reading in EGM that Star Fox was not compatible with the Game Genie because Star Fox cartridges had extra wide contact boards that weren't replicated on Game Genies.

  • @ronaldclayton4232
    @ronaldclayton4232 Рік тому +1

    The NES game genie does fit way tighter in the pin connectors which makes a worn out system with loose pin connectors prone to a flashing screen will work every time with the game genie.Its a quick fix if you don't want to change the pin connectors and if you don't want to use it just skip the code screen.

  • @theowinters6314
    @theowinters6314 9 місяців тому

    The gameboy Game Genie also came with sticks for popular games that you could stick on the cart that had the most common codes. My copy of Tetris still has one it actually.

  • @danestegman155
    @danestegman155 Рік тому +1

    Good video! I have the NES Game Genie and the Sega Genesis and Game Gear ones too! They are handy to have.

  • @hdufort
    @hdufort 9 місяців тому

    Me and 2 of my friends used the Game Genie extensively, back in the days. We had a collection of magazines with codes, as well as photocopied lists exchanged with other friends, and a notebook. We used it on 3 different NES dozens of times. Never had any issue and never saw any degradation, wear or damage.

  • @patrickholt8782
    @patrickholt8782 18 днів тому +1

    I bought a copy of super Metroid and the story was that the game was corrupted by a game genie so the battery had to be removed to wipe the save file.

  • @getoe1
    @getoe1 Рік тому

    When I was a kid on my first deck the spring broke for the ejector in my NES . Beside using a second cartridge to hold the game down to start , the game genie came in clutch . As well as being able to use it for games with no cover and only the cart itself . I was only a kid and didnt know how to replace case or the spring.

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther Рік тому

    I had the SNES, Genesis, and GameBoy Game Genies. So many memories of screwing around with codes.

  • @zerosyks9255
    @zerosyks9255 Рік тому

    The flap on the snes gj was to help lock the old style cartridges in place. Later they changed the cartridge. So that's why there's two different looking carts on the snes.

  • @sdrape4964
    @sdrape4964 Рік тому

    The flap on the SNES cartridge was for original SNES carts from 1991 to early 1993. The bottoms of the front were solid, and SNES consoles had a locking bar that locked the cartridge in place while the console was on so you couldn't pop it out. Sometime in 1993, Nintendo said to hell with it and, not only discontinued the locking bar in the console, but also indented the cartridges so that, even if you had an original console, it couldn't lock the cartridge in place.
    It's an easy way to tell on early SNES games if you have an original release or a later version.

  • @bigguy7353
    @bigguy7353 Рік тому +1

    It did absolutely nothing to the three systems I used Game Genies on. F'ing awesome.

  • @douglastaylor43
    @douglastaylor43 9 місяців тому

    That little book with the gameboy brought back good memories

  • @SpaceCaptainLexi
    @SpaceCaptainLexi Рік тому +1

    The bit about the Game Genie patching MEMORY is wrong. The GG actually works by pass-through modification of ROM access, not RAM. It's more like patching tiny bits of game code or assets rather than memory values. It was the Pro Action Replay (and later GameShark) devices that worked by modifying RAM. Very different beasts.

  • @natee246
    @natee246 9 місяців тому

    With the SNES Genie, that flapping was to hold the snes cartridge in place. When you slide the power toggle up a lock pin would hold the cartridge in place. That flap acts just like that holding the cartridge to the genie.

  • @lobuzz311
    @lobuzz311 9 місяців тому

    I love that you had Battletoads footage showing when you talked about how difficult the games were. Game Genie was the only reason I ever got anywhere in that game.

  • @poolhall9632
    @poolhall9632 Рік тому

    My brother and I took our NES apart in the late 90s and refurbished it.
    We fixed all the pens and cleaned all of the contacts.
    It actually went to my cousins for a couple of years and somehow we ended up getting it back.

  • @brandonlynchock9553
    @brandonlynchock9553 Рік тому

    Loved and subscribed!
    My dad bought me the game genie for the NES to help with those punishing 8 bit games and gave me a whole new experience on the same old console.

  • @xIsaacCantu
    @xIsaacCantu Рік тому

    Dude this was so much fun to watch! I had a gameshark for the GBC and that was so much fun back in the day. I love this channel!

  • @bastiaan0741
    @bastiaan0741 Рік тому +1

    I had an action replay in the day. What an amazing add-on it was.

  • @burn1none
    @burn1none 9 місяців тому

    man I used that original NES one so many times as a kid. it was so cool being able to skywalk in Mario 3 or beat Willow when I was kid. cool video man!

  • @Astrovite
    @Astrovite Рік тому

    I still remember using my gba gameshark ALL THE TIME. The only thing I ever really used it for was Pokemon but still. I would get those gameshark code books from the book fair at school. Those were fun times.