The Downfall Of Red vs. Blue

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  • I, DoktorSkipper. Discuss The Rise and Fall of Red Vs. Blue, which is a popular machinma series made by Roosterteeth productions. We discuss from Red Vs Blue season 1 to the dissapointing, Red vs. Blue: Zero.
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  • @DoktorSkipper
    @DoktorSkipper  2 роки тому +1895

    Whats your favorite season?

  • @r10101
    @r10101 2 роки тому +5811

    Also note the fact that the RvB Series on Netflix only has seasons 1 through 13.
    That kind of speaks volumes to me.

    • @gpproject1548
      @gpproject1548 2 роки тому +86

      Yup

    • @KingChiggy
      @KingChiggy 2 роки тому +472

      I actually had no idea it was on Netflix

    • @Frightknight15
      @Frightknight15 2 роки тому +443

      @@KingChiggy same,last I checked they removed all of them

    • @acavatar2590
      @acavatar2590 2 роки тому +121

      @@Frightknight15 still the case sadly

    • @acavatar2590
      @acavatar2590 2 роки тому +190

      But they are re-uploading entire seasons to UA-cam so there ya go I guess

  • @miraclewhipped5068
    @miraclewhipped5068 2 роки тому +2606

    The “ain’t that a bitch” speech is quite possibly my favorite ending to a show ever period. Carried so much weight especially because church was my favorite character since the very beginning.

    • @JARG09631
      @JARG09631 2 роки тому +57

      I cried with that ending

    • @brian3634
      @brian3634 2 роки тому +52

      Mine was the “I forget you” speech.

    • @eaglekiller888dragon2
      @eaglekiller888dragon2 2 роки тому

      The cake headed boy got a birthday cake so huge it crushed him alive, he’s said to still have cake all over him covering his entire face except one eyes with the most despised looking boy that had the same look as when a kid drops his ice cream.
      ua-cam.com/video/StCAcI1w1gg/v-deo.html

    • @millertime7275
      @millertime7275 2 роки тому +44

      Naw the ending to season 8 was best. The entire if you're gonna live in a memory make it a good one and going back to the beginning of the series

    • @marcotellez603
      @marcotellez603 2 роки тому +16

      @@JARG09631 same. I watched the entire series (seasons 1-15 at the time) in the span of a summer and I connected with the characters. I, someone who finds it nearly impossible to cry, teared up and nearly broke down during Church's speech. It just goes to show how much love was put into the the show, even if some argue that it should have ended earlier than 13

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +940

    I think it's pretty impressive that RvB managed to take so long to go down the gutter. A good chunk of other series could only _dream_ of hitting 13 good seasons.

    • @aeoncalcos7830
      @aeoncalcos7830 Рік тому +34

      Yeah it's hard to keep an audience tuned in for a really long time. 13 seasons is big! I big time HBO series fell down around season 9 or 10, but RT managed to keep their audiences happy for a longer duration, and they're not even as popular as HBO.

    • @adil0028
      @adil0028 Рік тому +6

      When you think about it, each season's only 1-2 mainstream show episode long. So only 2 season's worth of episodes, in 2020s

    • @user-uu7fe9wi2k
      @user-uu7fe9wi2k 11 місяців тому +28

      Eh it's not really 13 seasons of TV though, the seasons are only like an hour and half. It's more like 13 good movies. Which is still damn impressive.

    • @Toopydroppymoopy
      @Toopydroppymoopy 11 місяців тому +8

      I’m gonna say it season 14 was pretty good I loved a lot of the episodes. Especially the ones that take place before blood gulch

    • @TRG_R17
      @TRG_R17 11 місяців тому +3

      Reply 5

  • @cryx4
    @cryx4 2 роки тому +887

    Caboose is a great example of how good rvb was. He was so annoying, but in a way that made me feel like i was one of the Reds and Blues. Every time caboose said something dumb i groaned along with all the characters. It was great like that.

    • @hiddendesire3076
      @hiddendesire3076 Рік тому +105

      And that is the brilliant part, he wasn’t just some dumbass. He was the Harvard graduate in engineering who was born on the moon, could lift more than Agent Texas, had brain damaged from his helmet’s oxygen supply issue, and was well-meaning to the end. I loved him as a character.

    • @incognitopotato3516
      @incognitopotato3516 Рік тому

      @@hiddendesire3076 wait caboose was a hardvard grad. I thought he was an idiot savant

    • @hiddendesire3076
      @hiddendesire3076 Рік тому +38

      @@incognitopotato3516 When they visit a museum, he gets in with a student discount and the front desk worker comments on him being a fellow Harvard graduate. When asked he mentions that Yale was his backup.

    • @rancorusia
      @rancorusia Рік тому +5

      i still make comments about caboose when talking about my dnd party, luckily the DM is the only one who knows what im talking about 🤣

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 Рік тому

      ​@@hiddendesire3076 It's been awhile since I've watched the series, but when does that happen?

  • @thewooz7398
    @thewooz7398 2 роки тому +2401

    Your "Wasn't even one yet" comment just made everyone who spent their childhood playing Halo CE feel their age +10.

    • @influencer20XX
      @influencer20XX 2 роки тому +64

      haha yup, getting real close to 30 .....

    • @lwillimas
      @lwillimas 2 роки тому +32

      @@influencer20XX gut punch im almost 31 😥

    • @phantom31017
      @phantom31017 2 роки тому +53

      34 here. I remember downloading the QuickTime videos off the old site.

    • @viktorvaughn8192
      @viktorvaughn8192 2 роки тому +13

      Thank God I only got hand me down consoles cuz I'm only 16 so I dont feel the age but do feel like an outcast. I grew up with the "newer" episodes. Halo ce was the shit and halo 2 was better

    • @gungrave254
      @gungrave254 2 роки тому +7

      Hits like a truck.

  • @yeet-qi7ys
    @yeet-qi7ys 2 роки тому +2159

    For anyone who doesn’t know, monty made a lot of the fight scenes pretty much on his own at the start. Burnie said monty regularly slept at the office and would actually wait for a nearby coffee shop to open in the morning.

    • @MattBailz
      @MattBailz 2 роки тому +289

      Seriously, Monty was the life blood of the animation studio of RT. His passing set all of their projects back 10 fold. I couldn’t watch RWBYs animation after it lost Monty’s influence. I still go back and watch their tribute video to him. Brings a tear to me eye.

    • @thepodcastcrew1113
      @thepodcastcrew1113 2 роки тому +67

      @@MattBailz Honestly same, I goback and watch it every once in a while, and whilst I never met him, there's always that pang of someone who wasn't finished, he left behind so much and it affected everyone at the company so deeply

    • @javonyounger5107
      @javonyounger5107 2 роки тому +44

      He did have a friend he often collaborated with though I can't remember his name. He was a skilled animator in his own right. Still, since he was never officially part of the team after Monty died, he was pushed to a sort of advisor role where he was rarely listened to until he was eventually pushed out entirely.

    • @tactikiller
      @tactikiller 2 роки тому +14

      @@javonyounger5107 you mean Shane Newville?

    • @Xeonerable
      @Xeonerable 2 роки тому +29

      His passion for it paid off as he was really good, but then can't help but feel he was being over-worked.

  • @micahdude8235
    @micahdude8235 Рік тому +694

    Bill Watterson(the writer of Calvin and Hobbes) refused offer after offer to sell the copyrights of his work which likely could have made him 10s of millions. After 10 years of writing the strip he felt it was time to retire it at its peak. Later he explains he retired his work and didn’t sell it cause he didn’t want Calvin and Hobbes to coast into half hearted repetition. Probably one of the wisest yet rarest practices we see in entertainment today.

    • @TheNapster153
      @TheNapster153 Рік тому +23

      While it is indeed noble, you have to understand that not everyon can get that kind of success from inherent talent and skill. I'm not trying to downplay Mr. Watterson, I just feel its relevant to point out one can be just as successful by selling the license to their work.
      I mean, it did work out for Tom Clancy for one.

    • @TheCBoysDotCom
      @TheCBoysDotCom Рік тому +6

      @@TheNapster153Tom had some dubs and some Ls in the representation of his works though. The earliest movies may have been profitable but I’m not sure they’re quite as good as some of Primes attempts. And vice versa. But absolutely, what an artist chooses to do with their intellectual property is their choice and sometimes selling it or giving it to others is the best choice. Like how when things enter the public domain we see thousands of different interactions of classic figures, and some of them become just as unique and cherished as the source

    • @tuankhangcaonguyen5545
      @tuankhangcaonguyen5545 Рік тому +1

      @@TheNapster153 It's more likely that he can already smell the rotten core of rooster teeth animations start spilling out which is as the original commenter said "very wise". Hence, why he keep refusing their offers to sell the license. Saying that it is noble is imo a bit of an understatement

  • @degeneratephoenix8889
    @degeneratephoenix8889 Рік тому +139

    The biggest and most heart breaking thing for me is RWBY. It was Monty's brainchild, and I don't believe that the direction it went after his passing was even remotely what he had planned. Additionally, he was very vocal about it always being available for free forever, and RT had echoed that sentiment until this year when they announced the newest volume will be exclusive to Crunchy Roll.

    • @istoppedcaring6209
      @istoppedcaring6209 4 місяці тому +8

      not that anyone would want to see it

    • @Yayaloy9
      @Yayaloy9 4 місяці тому

      @@istoppedcaring6209 season 1 to 3 was great. Now it is so stupid. Fking white became a useless summoning princess when she can literally dance clap a fking knight by herself. Red is just a meat shield that can't do fuck all. So much useless crap

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 3 місяці тому +3

      Hell Burnie was probably the only one that might have been able to save the writing for RWBY post Vol 3...

    • @nokachi3339
      @nokachi3339 3 місяці тому +2

      RWBY had so much potential and they drove it into the ground with shipping and poor writing

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview 2 роки тому +2277

    This video hit home but it's a welcome pain. RvB just won't be the same without the original guys

    • @jeffday4005
      @jeffday4005 2 роки тому +5

      Ayyy glad to see one of my favorite GOT you tubers, oh my god ignore the pain, is a RvB fan

    • @demonxkiller1
      @demonxkiller1 2 роки тому +2

      I didn't know my favorite GoT UA-camr was a big RvB fan as well.

    • @ebayerr
      @ebayerr 2 роки тому +7

      RedTeamReview: Fun fact: Elijah Wood was the voice of "Sigma" in Season 10

    • @Utonian21
      @Utonian21 2 роки тому +4

      You can thank RT's poor, greedy, management for chasing most of the VO's away...

    • @ha-kh7ef
      @ha-kh7ef 2 роки тому +1

      @@Utonian21 among other things. RT is honestly stained with all the recent issues. I haven’t been able to watch their videos for a while

  • @olly123451
    @olly123451 2 роки тому +2144

    It’s great to see a series that only got bad after season THIRTEEN. I struggle to think of any series that got to that many seasons without being multiple seasons past “bad”.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 2 роки тому +173

      Well, to be fair, each 'season' is only 2 hours long. That's only 2 episodes of a normal show. So realistically RvB compared to other shows is maybe 3 seasons long? Got bad after 2. Since if we did make it comparable we'd split it into maybe 12 episode seasons, each episode an hour long so the first 'season would be 1-6, great season, then the second season would be 7-13 also great. Then it all went to shit after that.
      Having a show with 2 great seasons is still good though, i mean there plenty of shows out there that ended after 1 or two seasons that are held up in high regard.

    • @olly123451
      @olly123451 2 роки тому +102

      @@Noobie2k7 definitely a reasonable theory, but an episode isn't just ~10 minutes of the season, it is a self contained episode with a start, a middle, and a finish. The amount of actual time is less important than the story within, and it's the story that suffers with later seasons more than anything.
      I honestly think it's most impressive that they managed to get 7 great seasons with as many episodes as they did!
      Edit: definitely true about shows held in high regard that were cancelled after 1-2 seasons, Firefly comes to mind immediately, and usually that's because of corporate meddling or simply running out of money.

    • @deferencetodusk
      @deferencetodusk 2 роки тому +4

      It got bad before Season 13

    • @crapcase3985
      @crapcase3985 2 роки тому +15

      @@deferencetodusk examples?

    • @curtisshaw1370
      @curtisshaw1370 2 роки тому +20

      @@crapcase3985 I can't speak for anyone else, but I stopped watching after season thirteen and I wish I had stopped watching after season six. I just didn't enjoy the show after that. I held out hope, but by the time I quit, I felt it was already more bad than good. I'm not going to claim it sucked and in some regards-such as production-it definitely improved, but there were other issues. I originally enjoyed the more serious tone, but there is a cost. I'm willing to accept silly things like ghost in a fun dumb comedy, but I'm more critical of a more serious story. It felt cheap to kill Alpha-Church just to bring in Epsilon-Church. I hated Carolina. She felt like Tex 2.0 who later repeated Wash's character arc. The more serious the show got, the more pretentious it felt and the more it felt like the creators were buying too much into their own hype. Then again, as they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." If people liked those seasons and remember the series fondly overall, good for them. For me though, it's just one of many shows I stuck with too long and now remember as more bad than good on the rare occasions I think of it-such when YT decides to put this video in my recommendations and I click on it out of boredom.

  • @Aigis31
    @Aigis31 Рік тому +118

    Monty's animation style is so incredible that it still holds up today. Even now, revisiting RWBY Volume 1 & 2 where the average animation was decent, the fight scenes stand out so well. He had such a great understanding of fluidity in motion, his animations were always completely crazy in the best of ways. It's still mind boggling to think most of the animations we know him for nowadays were solo projects.

  • @brandonhughes4076
    @brandonhughes4076 Рік тому +84

    Man, as a huge fan of both RvB and RWBY, evey time a video brings up Monty it just hurts. The s8 fight between Tex and the Reds & Blue was my introduction to RvB, and it remains one of my favourite videos on the internet. Monty's animation and fight choreography captivated me in a way that I can't really explain. When I found out that the reason RWBY and RvB has declined in animation was that he had passed away, it was hearbreaking. Rest in Peace, Monty, thank you for everything

  • @bennycostello2472
    @bennycostello2472 2 роки тому +246

    The episode where they accidentally teleport to a multiplayer match will always be my favorite

    • @tangerinepaint3643
      @tangerinepaint3643 Рік тому +31

      You mean the one where Sarge and Caboose find themselves in Battle Creek?

    • @trevoreagar4092
      @trevoreagar4092 Рік тому +29

      ITS A LEGITIMATE STRATEGY

    • @Comkill117
      @Comkill117 10 місяців тому +9

      “I regret nothing! I lived as few men dare to dream.” -Red soldier who stole the Blue flag.

    • @metallord6960
      @metallord6960 8 місяців тому +2

      Sarge: Can you hear what they're saying?
      Blues: KILL THE REDS! KILL THE REDS! KILL THE REDS!
      Caboose: You're not gonna like it.

  • @ChrisOfTheDead
    @ChrisOfTheDead 2 роки тому +1254

    Just to point out a slight nuance: 10:27
    In Season 12, when animation was re-introduced after Season 11's attempt to try a classic Blood Gulch feel with no animation, Monty was still alive but was primarily working on RWBY. He passed away between the release of Season 12 and 13.
    I know because I was brought on, at first, to provide all of Season 12's animation while Monty was busy. I got to know him a little in that time, and he was such a great person. We did end up bringing back a former animator to do S12's fight scenes because I had never animated fights and was not doing them any justice and wouldn't have gotten them done in time.

    • @AvaaSlays_Swiftie
      @AvaaSlays_Swiftie Рік тому +66

      Thanks for the info and thanks for helping the series end with heart before it became what it was. I’m sure it’s not easy doing the job you guys do and it sucks when something goes downhill despite you doing what your supposed to do. Hope your doing something good now.

    • @hossdelgado626
      @hossdelgado626 Рік тому +26

      If it means anything, while we get upset as fans over watching something, we love hit the fan.. most of us don't blame the people doing animation, sound, etc first. We always look at the company and wonder how did the execs fk it up. Only a few people doing the work ever killed a project (think Ren and Stimpy art director, he was known to make many people dread doing their job with his mere presence... or creeps like Dan Schneider, though he was a proper director, and basically a top brass on set .. I just wanted to mention the feet fiend, tbh.) Me personally, I say thanks for at least trying. You seem to know your limitations and without me doing more research, I'll take you at your word on these things. So thanks for the memories, and have a great one.

    • @Dylan-xx2tk
      @Dylan-xx2tk Рік тому +19

      Honestly yeah, the animation doesn't stack up to Monty, but it's unfair to compare your work to his, especially considering you had never done animated fights; and, even if you did have experience, Monty's work was really a step above the average animator.
      You and the other animator brought your own style to the show and it came out pretty good. I remember almost ten years ago when Season 12's trailer dropped, I was so damn hyped to see animation returning (In fact, my actual comment on the trailer said they were looking "Sharper and better than ever!"). Actually watching the season, I always knew the animation wasn't quite as fluid as the past seasons, but I never once thought it was bad.
      Hope you're doing well these days.

    • @tankprohp
      @tankprohp Рік тому +6

      Season 12 and 13 are some of my favorites storywise and animation

    • @picassoflex1832
      @picassoflex1832 Рік тому

      Stop lying Jesus Christ.
      The information of Monty’s passing was widely known at the time. It was big news.
      You’re here pretending that you knew him personally on this video trying to get attention because you’d assume that people now wouldn’t know much about it.
      I work in the animation industry. You’re saying that you were brought on to animate but you couldn’t sit hey basically brought someone else to do the job…
      First of all, you’d would have been fired. Can’t animate? What are you even doing there, you would bet even get hired because you’d have to take a fucking TEST.
      Rooster teeth wasn’t even a major company like “Hollywood” why the hell would the waste a whole salary?! Lying ass mf.

  • @weirdowithacello3481
    @weirdowithacello3481 2 роки тому +91

    Small correction: Monty's time with RvB didn't end because of his passing. After season 10, he created and directed RWBY, and died during production for season 2.

  • @thedeltadriver1438
    @thedeltadriver1438 Рік тому +58

    this video made me so nostalgic. man i used to LOVE rooster teeth and achievement hunter. would watch every video. and. rvb. it’s really disappointing to see how far it’s fallen. i love this show sooo much it made me cry to remember it again.

  • @DanielTGaming
    @DanielTGaming 2 роки тому +2209

    I haven't heard anything about Red vs. Blue in so long, and it's nice to see people still talking about it. Wonderful video, man.

    • @doomedbringer
      @doomedbringer 2 роки тому +26

      There’s a reason for that. RvB zero is rather depressing in comparison

    • @ExelArts
      @ExelArts 2 роки тому +9

      Once warner brothers bought them they went down hill

    • @doomedbringer
      @doomedbringer 2 роки тому +16

      @@ExelArts thats most seen in how they used to average 1,000,000 in their most popular video series, now those same videos can barely break a 100,000. As the saying goes, they went woke so they went broke (so to speak)

    • @ExelArts
      @ExelArts 2 роки тому +15

      @@doomedbringer the WB brought these woke people into rooster and teeth the founders never shouldve agreed to sell shares to them

    • @doomedbringer
      @doomedbringer 2 роки тому +5

      @@ExelArts thats probably why all the original team of lets play is pretty much gone, they either quit or are barely present anymore, really only 2 are left. Most of the founders have either quit, got fired or are no longer talent and work behind the scenes

  • @carlcarlington7317
    @carlcarlington7317 2 роки тому +579

    It’s so cool that halo 3 had tools specifically designed to make machinama easier. A big game developer adding things to game for a niche online fan community is something you just don’t see anymore

    • @tankprohp
      @tankprohp Рік тому +4

      Arma 3 Left everything open for any creation you could think of other than that no one else

    • @liquidgarfield8523
      @liquidgarfield8523 Рік тому +14

      Halo 2 also has a button combo that lowered your weapon and removed your cross hair

    • @alexbowman4392
      @alexbowman4392 11 місяців тому +4

      I love the fact that Bungie brought in RT to do a cameo in Halo 3.

    • @Comkill117
      @Comkill117 10 місяців тому +3

      They also added the detail of the Warthog tires being labeled “Puma” in reference to RvB.
      Later in Reach there was a whole secret room near the end of the game you could access in co-op on legendary that payed tribute to a ton of fan stuff like RvB, the Warthog jump video, and so on. Definitely miss the soul of that era, ironically Halo lost it before RvB did.

    • @alexrobertson1472
      @alexrobertson1472 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Comkill117 Even in halo infinite you can choose "lightish red" as a colour for your AI

  • @kylec8240
    @kylec8240 Рік тому +33

    I worked at Gamestop back when they started carrying RvB DVDs and got to go to a conference where RT was. Got a signed CD (which was sadly stolen out of my car shortly after) but got to meet a few of the guys. Very down to earth, they were excited to be there as much as me. I miss those days, honestly, RvB was a big part of my life.

    • @based980
      @based980 11 місяців тому +5

      what was the thief's skin color

    • @karmiccj1911
      @karmiccj1911 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@based980 red... this has red team all over it

    • @evarchavex4800
      @evarchavex4800 29 днів тому

      @@based980 "what was the thief's skin color"
      Yours

    • @based980
      @based980 29 днів тому

      @@evarchavex4800 ermmmmm racist much? lmao

    • @evarchavex4800
      @evarchavex4800 28 днів тому

      @@based980 Are you really that fucking re***ded you can't spot how racist your comment was?

  • @Stallnig
    @Stallnig 2 роки тому +25

    monty had very good understanding of all the animation principles and incorporated them expertly.
    The series "ending" scene with churches speech was very impactful.

  • @chrishamby86
    @chrishamby86 2 роки тому +639

    The first couple seasons are incredible. Being late highschool and early college they hit hard. The sticky grenade on his face at the end of one episode had myself and my friends crying from laughter

    • @kbcarroll
      @kbcarroll 2 роки тому +30

      There's this thing on your face.
      Is it a spider? Get it off!
      No, it's like this blue, pulsating thing.
      You mean like a blue spider? Get it off!

    • @chrishamby86
      @chrishamby86 2 роки тому +8

      @@kbcarroll still makes me laugh

    • @jasechurch5124
      @jasechurch5124 2 роки тому +9

      They embraced the gamer and halo culture. The og rvb was like living in a halo meme.

    • @allenstanley3418
      @allenstanley3418 Рік тому +3

      That doesn't sound much better than a spider! The quotes used to be so memorable.

  • @SquashGuy02134
    @SquashGuy02134 2 роки тому +722

    Monty was lightning in a bottle. I remember listening to the podcast when they announced what happened. An allergic reaction to a minor surgical anesthetic if my memory serves, all around tragedy, especially for his wife and child.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +5

      tbh, I think the allergic reaction thing was a cover-up imo

    • @SquashGuy02134
      @SquashGuy02134 2 роки тому +29

      @@broden4838 for what? maybe a drug overdose, he did work insane hours.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +39

      @@SquashGuy02134 idk, but more and more have been suspecting foul play

    • @SquashGuy02134
      @SquashGuy02134 2 роки тому +31

      @@broden4838 I won't say corporate sabatoge is impossible, but it seems unlikely.

    • @Fox_Olive
      @Fox_Olive 2 роки тому +166

      @@broden4838 fuck outta here with conspiracy shit. Monty died. thats the fact.

  • @Black_Dragon_Studios
    @Black_Dragon_Studios Рік тому +13

    my favorite part of this entire series is seeing church evolve over the years and his character development

  • @pineappleginseng1557
    @pineappleginseng1557 10 місяців тому +14

    Season 1 to 5 is peak for me. I'd come home from middle school in the early-mid 2000s and just laugh my ass off for hours, rewatching over and over. My dad would come into the room one day, as Tex says, "Oh great, you broke my voice filter. You c**k-biting f***tar*s".

  • @TheMysticalTank
    @TheMysticalTank 2 роки тому +1050

    RvB was so successful that it’s main continuity about AI research became partial cannon in Halo. Both Bungie and 343 loved to include RvB in their games. It’s so sad to see something so great, along with the company, fall so far.
    Time has really killed mine and many others’ childhoods.

    • @unknownwill4th549
      @unknownwill4th549 2 роки тому +175

      Hell 343 made a reference to lightish red in the halo infinite beta. So sad tbh

    • @RoughNek72
      @RoughNek72 2 роки тому

      Yeah.

    • @stephlevesque9972
      @stephlevesque9972 2 роки тому +41

      The only thing we have left of the best time for gaming and gaming focused content are the memories of the times. Which is one of the most depressing things of 2021.

    • @mentalist1310
      @mentalist1310 2 роки тому +60

      The AI stuff in RvB is based off of what was already established in Halo. Almost every concept other than fragmentation of emotions and characteristics of an AI was in Halo before RvB.

    • @christopherkraemer4023
      @christopherkraemer4023 2 роки тому +38

      @@mentalist1310 true. From smart AI being taken from human subjects to rampancy

  • @fantiu1
    @fantiu1 2 роки тому +548

    God, mentioning Monty Oum was such a bittersweet gut punch, it was a shame that he passed away but it was also beautiful to hear the respects given for his effort on his work in RvB choreography.

  • @duckingtonreads5156
    @duckingtonreads5156 Рік тому +25

    I remember watching the whole series on Netflix, and the fight scenes were awesome, and the writing was amazing. The fact I can go back to seasons 1-13 and still enjoy them shows how well made they are.

  • @zeromech1450
    @zeromech1450 11 місяців тому +20

    Yo. They just retconned seasons 14-18. And are going back to the end of corvus. Written by burnie again. This may be a return to form. For the final season

    • @bigmanrobert3610
      @bigmanrobert3610 8 місяців тому +1

      real? where can i get more information

    • @zeromech1450
      @zeromech1450 8 місяців тому

      @@bigmanrobert3610 yeah they announced it shortly before I made this comment. I forgot what it's called. Just look up red vs blue final season trailer. All those seasons are now simulations church was running.

    • @Church-of-the-grim-reaper
      @Church-of-the-grim-reaper 2 місяці тому

      This shit aged like milk

    • @TheTurt
      @TheTurt Місяць тому

      @@Church-of-the-grim-reaper What happened? I've heard about the return of Burnie, but I haven't heard anything else since.

    • @PredatorHun87
      @PredatorHun87 21 день тому

      @@TheTurt Roosterteeth got closed down.

  • @illusionofglory6371
    @illusionofglory6371 2 роки тому +698

    The tonal shift towards serious arcs was an adjustment but honestly I feel like it was still watchable up until the last few seasons. It’s a real shame it continued because season 13 was the perfect ending point.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah, it was weird when RvB got "serious"

    • @Valiguss
      @Valiguss 2 роки тому +18

      @@MALICEM12 I don’t think it was weird, it was actually really good I think but when it stopped being comedic as well was the problem

    • @HarmlessOSRS
      @HarmlessOSRS 2 роки тому +6

      I loved the fight scenes tho

    • @supersonic20121
      @supersonic20121 2 роки тому +10

      The end of season 13 made me cry and now I want my years back...

    • @DannoHung
      @DannoHung 2 роки тому +4

      I stopped watching when it got “serious”. I just wanted funny Halo man’s making dumb jokes.

  • @fuginibob2766
    @fuginibob2766 2 роки тому +438

    Not enough people recognize how great the Chorus Trilogy was. It really was a great way to end the series, finally concluding all the character development that needed to happen without losing too much classic RvB charm.
    Honestly, the humor isn't as great as past seasons and the animation just is not good again until season 13; however, the writing and plot were phenomenal, and the maturity of those elements really matched the maturity of the characters themselves. It all culminated in the finale, which I will admit made me cry the first time watching through. Church's speech at the end was the PERFECT way to end such a beautifully crafted series, and the show absolutely should have ended there

    • @DylanoRevs
      @DylanoRevs 2 роки тому +3

      Though my one critique of it is that the end credits for season 13 is not that good compare to Season 10's end credits. The latter felt like it was the end of RVB

    • @PlainOlSoapBar
      @PlainOlSoapBar 2 роки тому +20

      @@DylanoRevs RT also completely screwed over the season 13 end credits in their two part reuploads by replacing it with their "hEy GuYS mAkE SurE To LiKe AnD Sub!"

    • @hossdelgado626
      @hossdelgado626 Рік тому

      Same here, I was blubbering like a baby. I hasn't even know there was more to the show. Glad in one way, sad in another. Either way. I hope you have a great one, whoever is reading this.

    • @vermin5367
      @vermin5367 Рік тому

      ​@@PlainOlSoapBar ooooh hell naw 😭

    • @Fadaar
      @Fadaar Рік тому

      It's no surprise that RT went down the shitter after 2015 with Ray leaving AH and Monty passing

  • @nicholasharvey5628
    @nicholasharvey5628 2 роки тому +23

    Shit dude, this is everything I have thought and more. My favorite season is 6. It takes all of our characters that we know and love and flips it on its head. The dialogue between the counselor and the chairman is riveting and it has a healthy mix of humor and dark scenes. I get chills every time I hear Tex's crash. I HATED THAT WE GOT NO CALL BACKS TO HOW THEY ESCAPED IN SEASON 14. I felt like RVB had a missed opportunity to show an amazing show opener. Thanks for making this video. I watch/listen to Red vs Blue all the time and this just validates my feelings on the show.

  • @Merlithemimic
    @Merlithemimic 11 місяців тому +9

    I'm glad they're retconning anything after season 13 and Burnie is gonna write the last season

  • @pergys6991
    @pergys6991 2 роки тому +376

    I lost interest in the series when they decided to focus less on characters(or really, make terrible character arcs) and more on plots instead. I honestly think it’s why people love S6-13 and why many people consider one out of those three arcs to be the best in RvB. They always managed to create an intriguing plot that was driven by excellent motivation and good character conflicts. Conflicts only existed because some characters didn’t see eye to eye with each other, not because of some god or terroist group forcing them to fight.
    I think it says something about RvBs emotional core when the most memorable and impactful moments were not it’s fight scenes or character deaths or arc tie ups, but characters getting the closure by simply talking.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle 2 роки тому +4

      Hey.
      Yeah?
      You ever wonder why we're here?

    • @sumbuddy4088
      @sumbuddy4088 2 роки тому +6

      Unsurprisingly, the best thing about red vs blue was, well, the red versus blue.
      That’s probably also why I got cheery each time the main cast went back to their roots and did some standing around shenanigans in whatever team-segregated bases they set up.

    • @TheKingsPride
      @TheKingsPride 2 роки тому

      Man I remember when people despised the Chorus trilogy. I still love it though. Felix and Locus were way more iconic to me than The Meta.

    • @pergys6991
      @pergys6991 2 роки тому +1

      @@sumbuddy4088 exactly. The new series just don't seem to grasp the core of the RvB cast which is, their a group of unlikely friends who care, not a bunch of idiots. Its why I only liked a few parts of S15 and stopped after that. S15 focused too much on the villain and other characters without taking the time to include and make sure to give depth to the RvB cast.

  • @averageoverlord8982
    @averageoverlord8982 2 роки тому +477

    I grew up with rooster teeth, hell, they were the first show I ever got hooked on on the internet. I used to mow lawns and listen to the drunk tank podcast. I remember the day Monty died, I got one of his quotes tattooed on my ribs. They used to be a community, their community site was a way to interact with people with similar interests from around the world. They were some of the first social media to exist. It’s depressing to see what they have fallen to over the years but I will always be so thankful for their part in my life. If you haven’t seen red vs blue all I have to say is,
    “Hey, have you ever wondered why we are here?”

    • @jondoe230
      @jondoe230 2 роки тому +12

      Started listening to the old drunk tank podcasts again only to find out they removed the first 100 off youtube and then like another 60. Use the like the podcast but stopped liking it years ago.

    • @kiice7189
      @kiice7189 2 роки тому

      It's one of lifes great mysterys.

    • @shanedawndusk3290
      @shanedawndusk3290 2 роки тому +1

      Rest in Piece, Monty.

    • @blakesaywhat6729
      @blakesaywhat6729 2 роки тому +3

      OG fan as well, found RVB around 2004ish probably, all snowballed from there watching the rest of RT, drunk tank, shorts and all. Monty was a huge inspiration for me growing up, I was never particularly talented in any way doing art but Monty was able to make a Webseries of all things look like that. I’m finally on the right track with where I wanna go with art, it’s a shame I was never able to meet Monty man. He gave me hope. Rest In Peace brother.

    • @ComfortablyDumb42069
      @ComfortablyDumb42069 11 місяців тому

      @@jondoe230 I'm late af but all of the drunk tank is on spotify, I relistened to all the great eps from 1-100 recently 🔥

  • @migultantamco
    @migultantamco Рік тому +10

    I felt that S13 had could’ve had the best send-off. Epsilon, the last living this connected to the Alpha and the Director, dies and finally giving them a final death. The Reds and Blues have experienced so much and have been transformed from live training dummies to actual war heroes, able to inspire others as well as maturing themselves. Carolina and Wash, both who’ve lost everyone and everything find a new place to belong with the reds and blues. Hell I would’ve been fine with an epilogue episode where it shows them just retiring like how they did in S15, something like Grif and Simmons saying the iconic first lines, putting in some joke in there, and the camera pans over showing everyone just living their lives without being worried of being shot at, killed, or being dragged into another misadventure while the classic RvB intro plays in the background.

  • @jodycwilliams
    @jodycwilliams Рік тому +7

    Church was the heart of the series for me. The less he was involved, the less I cared. I think I haven't seen anything since 13. I'm rewatching it all now though, and loving it. The first few seasons are my favorite. The comedy was top notch.

  • @jimbojamjames
    @jimbojamjames 2 роки тому +244

    I remember one day i saw a tweet/blog/comment made by one of the producers of RvB: Zero that said "we didn't make the show for the fans we made it for us and what we like and what we wanted to do" and that gave me all the answers i needed about that season

    • @memecake9890
      @memecake9890 2 роки тому +17

      Damn really? Smh.

    • @slimkickens
      @slimkickens 2 роки тому +13

      Which like, cool, but don't be a fucking whiny brat when everyone hates your shit. It's like a toddler running third shift at McDonald's and putting ketchup in the ice cream. I'm glad you like it, but the customers are getting pissed.

    • @fz7788
      @fz7788 2 роки тому +8

      Monty was one of my idols bro rooster teeth oh boy you done goofed

    • @redrover1172
      @redrover1172 2 роки тому +12

      That's actually been roosterteeths style forever, they make things that make them laugh or that they wanna do or see.

    • @anafu-sankanashi8933
      @anafu-sankanashi8933 2 роки тому +40

      @@redrover1172 but burnie made it specifically for the people who wanted to watch it. they will undoubtedly do what they want but the tweet reeks of contempt and miscommunication.

  • @BusterCorp
    @BusterCorp 2 роки тому +1109

    Nice to find someone else who loves The Chrous Trilogy as much as me

    • @AyStar
      @AyStar 2 роки тому +6

      Joe Bingham sends his regards.

    • @pontiusporcius8430
      @pontiusporcius8430 2 роки тому +38

      It's their final hurrah.

    • @InquisitiveImmortal
      @InquisitiveImmortal 2 роки тому +3

      Omg yes

    • @wortwort1699
      @wortwort1699 2 роки тому +33

      The Chorus era is 100 % underrated, I always enjoyed it

    • @space_racc
      @space_racc 2 роки тому +19

      Honestly at the least I'd call it a sequel to RvB, but it's prime RvB to me as much as seasons 10-13

  • @theoriginalemim
    @theoriginalemim Рік тому +8

    First few seasons are still my favorite. So many great jokes and the voice acting is so good. They all had such distinct voices

  • @nssmith2000
    @nssmith2000 2 місяці тому +2

    Losing Monty was genuinely the loss of someone special in all of humanity. I still believe that he would've gone on to be a huge name without rooster teeth

  • @azariyelvarro6271
    @azariyelvarro6271 2 роки тому +688

    Ah. I remember the good old days. Being young, watching people older than me make something fun.
    Now I'm watching a UA-cam video by someone whose three years younger than me.
    So, this is what adulthood feels like.

    • @th3thatguy631
      @th3thatguy631 2 роки тому +24

      Hey dude these youtubers are my age actually doing something and I'm just sitting here

    • @Fox_Olive
      @Fox_Olive 2 роки тому +20

      @@th3thatguy631 Do something then. Take a half hour out of your day to learn something. And it doesnt have to be every day, if you arent feeling it, thats cool too. But always work towards something. I'm learning game dev while working a dead end security job. But I'm doing something, anything is better than just existing.

    • @th3thatguy631
      @th3thatguy631 2 роки тому +13

      @@Fox_Olive well I am passing time till I join the navy but it just feels empty. Like I'm only joining cause I don't know what else to do and I'm hoping it'll guide me a bit, but I'm able to get a relatively comfy job so that's nice

    • @jc8153
      @jc8153 2 роки тому

      Dont remind me

    • @Skeptycx
      @Skeptycx 2 роки тому

      Right there with ya. Feelswierdman

  • @oliviagrammar6079
    @oliviagrammar6079 2 роки тому +103

    i believe in my heart that the show’s canon ended in season 13. the ending was soooo good aaaaaa

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +1

      10 is where it ended

    • @anafu-sankanashi8933
      @anafu-sankanashi8933 2 роки тому +7

      13 was damn good. nearly cried at church's speech.

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica 2 роки тому +8

      @@broden4838 Seasons 11 through 13 were a really good arc and unlike 10 they didn't set the Reds and Blues up for new adventures. They set them up for a story we'd never see, one where we'd just hsve to hsve faith. That's why Season 15 had to pretend that scene never happened to begin with

    • @Freaky1347
      @Freaky1347 2 роки тому +2

      8, 10, or 13 could have been great end points. Still love the Chorus Trilogy tho.

    • @AptMantis2278
      @AptMantis2278 2 роки тому

      I firmly believe that and I completely agree

  • @kevinmahaffey4417
    @kevinmahaffey4417 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you for making this, I was sad to see the ending because I don't ever feel that I get the closure of an interpreted ending as one that's made by the writers, but I really am glad that it ended as amazing as it did

  • @Subo23
    @Subo23 Місяць тому +2

    Lost touch with RvB for years but when I caught up to Restoration and Grif said so long to Simmons and Caboose at the end, it was pretty great.

  • @MadDadLad
    @MadDadLad 2 роки тому +313

    For me, Chorus was the definitive end of the story of these lovable space idiots. The first 6 seasons did a lot of world building, and then from Revelation onwards with the late great Monty Oum at the helm, some of the best fight choreography I've ever seen was on full display with a fantastic story which then became the Freelancer Saga (my personal favourite out of the lot) and the the equally amazing Chorus Trilogy. It galls me Burnie and Joel are gone now from the company, effectively killing any hope for Church and Caboose forever from coming back. I have those amazing memories though from that awesome period and they'll never be taken from me.

    • @schleepyairman6670
      @schleepyairman6670 2 роки тому +4

      Wait Burnie isn't with rooster teeth anymore?

    • @MadDadLad
      @MadDadLad 2 роки тому +9

      @@schleepyairman6670 he's been gone for a while bud not sure exactly when he left but I think it was just before or during the mass exodus from the company.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle 2 роки тому +4

      Everything has an end.
      I hope Halo's end is long after I'm gone though.

    • @schleepyairman6670
      @schleepyairman6670 2 роки тому +2

      @@MadDadLad damn I didnt even know

    • @MadDadLad
      @MadDadLad 2 роки тому +9

      @@schleepyairman6670 yeah it sucks hard to be fair bud :(. The Rooster Teeth I discovered as a teen is long long gone unfortunately. And back then, it felt like a proper community and that the people there weren't out of reach and easy to communicate with. They're in a different universe now today sadly but at least there's the memories to look back on.

  • @khalilpontikes7293
    @khalilpontikes7293 2 роки тому +290

    Red vs Blue for me ended at season 13, season 14 was fun and provided some nee details to previous lore, and honestly I would've been fine seeing more of these spinoffs, watching Locust's and Felix's animated episodes were fun and provided us more background on the characters. When season 15 came out I tries to get into it but just couldn't, felt forced just to do a new season. The true end for me is season 13.

    • @AquaticLotus7552
      @AquaticLotus7552 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah, I get what you mean, but for me I was fine for season 15, it felt like an epologue movie, where you get to see the "where are they now?" answers and have one last plot that finally ties the rest of the loose ends of the Reds and Blues. But all in all, thats my opinion

    • @void-master9077
      @void-master9077 2 роки тому +6

      I personally see season 15 as much needed closure, just wish it would’ve ended after they killed or integrated the blues and reds into their group, would’ve added so much extra story to the world of rvb, but season 14 would’ve been the perfect season to end on.

    • @dusanradojkovic8190
      @dusanradojkovic8190 2 роки тому +1

      I haven't seen the last couple of seasons yet (or however many there are now since they started getting back to the main story again). I started watching the one with the journalist and such. I think I was maybe reasonably enjoying it, but I still need to come back to it and see the rest.
      Honestly, I don't know if it's that I entered my high school years at this point and grew up somewhat, or if I just had prophetic eyes, but the first signs of any decline to me were actually seasons 9 and 10. From what I recall, it felt like neither the present nor the prequel's story (especially the prequel's story, being the more narratively important and action-packed one) was getting enough screen time to really feel like it was fully done. I remember feeling like I only got small snippets of the freelancer storyline, and that the only few-minute run time of each episode was just becoming far too short and underwhelming for me. I think, when you start introducing even bigger plot and detail like that, you gotta start giving more time to the whole thing, otherwise it just feels rushed. And that's how it felt to me: rushed. Plus, from what I recall, I didn't really like the season 10 conclusion. That also felt rushed and underwhelming to me at the time, but I never rewatched it.
      Then, Seasons 11, 12, and 13 shift to a brand new story, mostly. I kept thinking they were gonna tie this back in to the freelancer plot somehow, because of all the nods to it at points, but it never really happened. That disappointed me too. And I ended up feeling disappointed with every season of the Chorus trilogy, mainly that the story and main threat in it just didn't seem as grand as the whole freelancer arc. Plus, it was all just coming out of nowhere, thrusting you in with no built-up lore like the Blood Gulch Chronicles did with the freelancer storyline.
      That's my summation for now, mainly from many years ago, having viewed seasons 9-13 fully only once (season 9 possibly more than once), really. I'll admit: seasons 9-10 had some really cool action scenes. I have rewatched some of those at times. Again, for the freelancer prequel stuff, it was more about not having enough time given and perhaps pacing. Seasons 11-13 felt more like a shot in the dark to another direction just for the sake of continuing the series. I guess it makes sense narratively, somewhat, that they could move on from the freelancer stuff, but it just didn't seem that interesting with the narrower scope of it all. You either continue with the freelancer angle that started it all, perhaps expanding on the alien aspect (from the Blood Gulch Chronicles) along with it, or you build up a threat even grander to top it off, but the show did neither at this point.
      It's amazing to me that some people only started thinking the show was faltering after the Chorus trilogy. For me, by the time season 11 had ended, I had definitely been less fond of the series than I once was. To me, it was kind of obvious that Red vs Blue was not like it once was already, but for some people, they're just catching up to that idea now, I guess. I still enjoy some of the content, and I'll eventually get back to whatever I've missed so far, but it doesn't have that gravitas like it once did for me.

    • @Eulsam_FZ
      @Eulsam_FZ Рік тому +2

      I would have loved to see more stories of Locust and Felix done in the style of their S14 episode. Their first job, how they got the armor and so on. So much potential. Would have been a better season than Zero and that atrocity that is Family Shatters

    • @TRG_R17
      @TRG_R17 11 місяців тому +2

      Reply 5

  • @Vlonethugs999
    @Vlonethugs999 2 роки тому +7

    I remember sitting on my living room floor watching this show being about 12 or so and my mom saying that I shouldn't be watching it bc it was not appropriate. I finally found all the seasons and its feels so good to watch the seasons again

  • @42stTC
    @42stTC 11 місяців тому +3

    Red vs Blue just announced a new season‼️

  • @jonathanpham9243
    @jonathanpham9243 2 роки тому +339

    "[The animation] holds up well even today, especially compared to the new seasons." is a SCATHING and underrated condemnation of the new stuff. Basically saying Monty's work is at least a decade ahead of its time, and reflexively, new RvB looks like cow plops compared to something made a decade ago. There was so much flavor and spice in that one throwaway line.

    • @nicheman4455
      @nicheman4455 2 роки тому +36

      In all fairness, Monty was a gifted man and it is a great tragedy to lose his talent and more importantly him at such an age.

    • @ISesseriI
      @ISesseriI 2 роки тому +29

      @@nicheman4455 Its crazy how absolutely skilled Monty was at fight choreography, his fights have no been matched since he sadly passed away.

    • @SmoothTurtle840
      @SmoothTurtle840 2 роки тому +8

      I will admit, the animation looked pretty damn good, but it felt odd. Its sudden inclusion was quite jarring, and as a result, the show lost a lot of its identity (at least, the identity that I was familiar with). It started to introduce way too many characters that I didn’t care about around that time (most of the freelancers, aside from Maine, Washington, and I guess Carolina, even though she wasn’t very likable and more just essential to the plot). But I know most fans don’t agree with me, because choreographed fight scenes are what they think is at the core of RvB (while I , on the other hand, believe the machinima aspect is its core).

    • @RipzCritical
      @RipzCritical 2 роки тому +3

      @@SmoothTurtle840 I respectfully disagree. I get where you’re coming from, but after 8 seasons it was the only logical next step. The fact that they kept the machinima side as the majority of the show, and the animations were sooo well done, makes me think that was RvB hitting its stride. The show flowed perfectly until… recently. Imo the Recollection and Freelancer sagas were equally incredible and I followed since season 3.

    • @Usernamesdontmatter1
      @Usernamesdontmatter1 Рік тому

      ​@@nicheman4455 while he was extremely talented it's not like what he did was impossible to recreate. They didn't even copy his style right after his death. Momentum was the key to all his fight scenes. Noone was flying and changed directions in the air. Every time you saw a character speeding through the air was because they were propelled by some sort of force.

  • @bowenorcutt78
    @bowenorcutt78 2 роки тому +131

    19:21 Okay, here's actually something funny about that: Remember 9 and 10? The Freelancers actually do bob their heads slightly on occasion. For reference, go rewatch the scene in 9 with Wash and North right before the 3 on 1 fight with Tex. We don't really notice it too much because it was actually integrated into their normal movements.

    • @MrMikellsof88
      @MrMikellsof88 2 роки тому +6

      Compared with their attempts in Zero. I mean ... I watched half of Zero before I couldn't stomach it anymore and the head bobbing seemed smoother which gave away that it had been animated in, rather than machinima'd.

  • @MedaMatchaElite
    @MedaMatchaElite 11 місяців тому +4

    …this video will become an interesting topic in the following future

  • @mmmhhm
    @mmmhhm 2 місяці тому +4

    implying joel was an innocent bystander in rooster teeth's dramatics is quite bad reporting. he always had a history of being abusive on twitter, including towards other staff members, and what got him ultimately fired was wishing harm on Gavin (gavin at that point already had an insane fan break into his home and threatened him with violence, so joel's tweet was just a low blow). joel did face a lot of bullshit from fans and staff, so it's quite understandable why he was so bitter, but his firing was cause of his actions alone.

  • @chickuna7854
    @chickuna7854 2 роки тому +297

    Finally, a “the downfall of” video that isn’t 3 hours long

    • @kanaka118446
      @kanaka118446 2 роки тому +2

      biggie cheese

    • @ImJustEman
      @ImJustEman 2 роки тому +3

      biggie cheese

    • @H20No
      @H20No 2 роки тому +6

      Don’t get why people hate long videos they give time to cover as much as possible in as much detail as possible

    • @chickuna7854
      @chickuna7854 2 роки тому +1

      @@H20No I personally dont hate longer videos I just dont tent to watch them as much due to my terrible attention span

    • @H20No
      @H20No 2 роки тому

      @@chickuna7854 that’s fair

  • @Jayozranger
    @Jayozranger 2 роки тому +203

    “Hey people are saying we are creatively bankrupt.”
    “Yeah, what completely new never before concept can be used”
    “You ever seen doctor who”
    “Yeah”
    “What if we did that bad”

  • @rbvfeehfbudenrj
    @rbvfeehfbudenrj 2 роки тому

    thanks for making this video, it introduced me to the videos. and i gotta say i enjoyed them.

  • @FuZackWasHere
    @FuZackWasHere 11 місяців тому +3

    Anyone seeing this video now after seeing the trailer for the final season? Seeing them retcon the hell out of s14 to 19 and seeing Burnie and Matt's name and thinking thank God and please make this end well?

  • @HydraMann
    @HydraMann 2 роки тому +629

    As a child it was red vs blue now its "Bloods VS Crips" smh

  • @DitisEmile
    @DitisEmile 2 роки тому +115

    I agree that the end of Season 13 would have been the best place to end it, for sure.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +3

      10 should have been it. everything beyond that is just a feeble attempt

    • @Fox_Olive
      @Fox_Olive 2 роки тому +18

      @@broden4838 nah dude, the chorus trilogy is amazingly well written. Season 13's last episode justifies any bad moments teh series had.

    • @anafu-sankanashi8933
      @anafu-sankanashi8933 2 роки тому +1

      @@Fox_Olive 12 was a bit rocky but 11 and 13 were great.

  • @soupsonton7348
    @soupsonton7348 Рік тому +5

    Surprisingly enough, my first introduction to red vs blue was in an Oscar’s parody dvd that actually had some really funny jokes and screens with Simmons getting locked out or caboose just talking on and on to some random person and literally just A bomb being a nominee. It was cool but it made me want to watch the rest.

  • @yorkfoxtrot1296
    @yorkfoxtrot1296 11 місяців тому

    That's one finely crafted video you made there. I'd show this to my friends just to get a recap of RvB

  • @Saiku
    @Saiku 2 роки тому +111

    For it's time, this wasn't jank. This was quality. The early 2000s were good times.

    • @ryanforsyth5189
      @ryanforsyth5189 2 роки тому +13

      Yeah, I'm only a couple years older than this guy and it's totally beyond me how he's pretty down on the early seasons but Chorus is his favourite? Seasons 1-5 were way better than Chorus, which itself if good but not great.
      But on the whole he seems to get it.

    • @brandonhughes4076
      @brandonhughes4076 Рік тому +2

      Even now it holds up

    • @damir_van_kalaz
      @damir_van_kalaz Рік тому +7

      That's the thing, it *was* jank. The 2000s was the embodiment of things being jank in a way that was cool. Newgrounds games, machinimas, YTPs, hell even the AMVs and GMVs that were way more popular then than they are now. It was back when the internet as we know it today was still getting established and people just kind of did whatever the hell they felt like doing. Back before every social media platform was catered exclusively toward pushing political agendas, and everyone's creativity had to fall within the confines of what advertisers are comfortable with.

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 Рік тому

      @@damir_van_kalaz i miss those days
      i remember seeing some really good AMVs there, some really good fan fiction videos
      all the fake halo 4 trailers, some music videos where the CGI was great at the time, but looking back now are pretty dated.
      Seeing so many old memes be created like leroy jenkins.
      man i miss those days

    • @damir_van_kalaz
      @damir_van_kalaz Рік тому

      @@enviousgaming3250
      Same here. Those were good times. Back then you could even find an entire anime series uploaded on youtube in glorious 360p, compared to now where people get copyright strikes just for using a 5 second clip for review/commentary purposes.

  • @hudsonk1racer
    @hudsonk1racer 2 роки тому +292

    I still recommend watching Season 14 for the fact it's just one big bonus features season, and introduced some pretty funny characters and moments for the still technically canon episodes.

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah, it had some good qualities.

    • @thallan
      @thallan 2 роки тому +37

      Like the backstory of how church got a biological body, which also tied up the whole situation with private Jimmy and beating people to death with their own skulls.

    • @zimnylech527
      @zimnylech527 2 роки тому +20

      Hell yeah, I still sometimes rewatch the "Merc Trilogy" (episodes 9-11). They're just SO good.

    • @TheXehanorto
      @TheXehanorto 2 роки тому +6

      If there is one set of episodes from that season that I absolute hate, it's the Triplets episodes. Project Freelancer had always been portrayed as this black ops group that was one of many potential magic bullets to win the war. These soldiers were supposed to be some of humanity's best and in the context of Halo's lore, these would've been soldiers who didn't get dragged into the Spartan III program. And then...the Triplets completely shit on this perception, these were people that were less competent than some of the Sim Troopers that we saw over the course of the series.

    • @Galactipod
      @Galactipod 2 роки тому

      Season 15 was also alright. It wasn't good, but it wasn't that bad either. It definitely went downhill after Season 13, though. Season 16 was bad. Zero had zero RvB in it.

  • @spheal608
    @spheal608 Рік тому +3

    You literally have my exact take on RVB with chorus being your favorite arc and hating the new seasons. The Chorus arc ending is one of my favorite endings of all time, and I still think about it every now and then. The ending was so good that I decided that it would be the ending of me watching RVB regardless of the quality of the later seasons. And after watching this, I am EXTREMELY happy I left it where I did

  • @goodsirj.8672
    @goodsirj.8672 4 місяці тому +2

    RT recently released a teaser video for a new season of Red vs. Blue, showing that everything that happened after season 13 was nothing more than a simulation that Epsilon Church created between the ending of Season 13 and the credits. its fucking insane how far they've gone and how they are now trying to retcon it.

  • @the-t-doggames1553
    @the-t-doggames1553 2 роки тому +76

    The machinima tricks in season 11 was amazing, having cabooses mark V have a broken helmet with the black visor to show it was off was brilliant.

  • @kodredcud
    @kodredcud 2 роки тому +66

    "I wasn't even 1 when they made this series" oh my god..

    • @justinmielsch5924
      @justinmielsch5924 2 роки тому +8

      Shit I feel old now

    • @Pooh0Bear8
      @Pooh0Bear8 2 роки тому +1

      The same thought went through my head; you are not alone.

  • @rawkth5996
    @rawkth5996 Рік тому +7

    You know I watched RvB as a kid and I watched all the way up to season 13 as that was all of the seasons and to be honest I don't regret that I was wholly and still am wholly satisfied with it and will always call season 13 as of right now the last *true* season of RvB.

  • @Terra-Quattuor
    @Terra-Quattuor 2 місяці тому +1

    2 years after this video (finally seeing it), and RoosterTeeth, is no more.

  • @benjyzf1976
    @benjyzf1976 2 роки тому +70

    "Are you related to griff’s family ?"
    "Well I had relations with his sister"
    I just love that line 🤣

  • @SirSpitsAlotable
    @SirSpitsAlotable 2 роки тому +94

    When Gavin and Michael play games together like when they played “cursed halo” I get the feelings I did again when Roosterteeth was at its peak.

  • @solaireofastora3146
    @solaireofastora3146 Рік тому

    This is so sad. Just had to reopen wounds with your truthful video.

  • @tarquin2731
    @tarquin2731 Рік тому +2

    Honestly this is the best review if RvB that I've ever seen. I get I'm a year late to the party here but this is my first time seeing your channel and I appreciate everything you've done here. Not just completely discarding all the Halo 4 stuff was a well needed view in the community, and the ability to actually see what made my childhood what it is remember today as something genuinely good and well crafted in terms of finishing one of my favourite shows / series' is something I truly appreciate so much. Thank you. I'm gonna go re-watch RvB now.

  • @JodieWithanIEOfficial
    @JodieWithanIEOfficial 2 роки тому +250

    My first serious boyfriend and I used to wait patiently every week for the new episodes to drop on my old crappy Dell computer with AOL dial up. During that time period, Burnie Burns was at a convention and I ended up going and surprising my boyfriend for our anniversary that year with an autographed Rooster Teeth mousepad. Sad to see the state of Rooster Teeth today, but as you said, all good things must come to an end.

  • @blakheart2158
    @blakheart2158 2 роки тому +117

    After recently binging the entire series from S1 to S14. I can indefinitely agree S13 is where it should have stopped, Even as someone only watching it now I can agree with the impact and quality of it in it's purer form. Excellent video reviewing it, short, concise, honest and unrestrained.

  • @gameoverlordN7
    @gameoverlordN7 3 місяці тому +3

    DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE MUSIC. Trocadero made all of the classic songs. And Jeff Williams made great stuff.
    As well as bits for RWBY that bled into RvB like "caffeine"

  • @theDemolisher13
    @theDemolisher13 Рік тому +4

    I will say this much about season 17 I actually really enjoyed the Washington scenes seeing him go through his life and trying to piece things together before ultimately having to make a sacrifice worse then death this actually was the first time I cried for a fictional character before. I think this touched home with me due to the fact I truly value my mind as I put a lot of time and effort into trying to build it up and the thought of not only losing it but having to willingly give it up to protect something else I love while knowing I'll live but never the same again is terrifying to me.

  • @Dwolfin
    @Dwolfin 2 роки тому +89

    Same thing happened to RWBY... RWBY Volume 1-3/ Red Vs. Blue Season 1-13 forever in our hearts.

    • @thedumbassCloudy
      @thedumbassCloudy 2 роки тому +1

      what is RWBY?

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +7

      @@thedumbassCloudy Monty Oum's show, but when he died, his "friends" Miles and Kerry took over and desecrated it. Now that Rooster Teeth is about to go out of business, people want to take revenge on both of them and their fans, along with a whack-job writer who came along 2 years ago

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому

      Volumes 1-2 and Seasons 1-10 imo, since Miles Luna is nothing more than a opportunist with a much more darker side to him

    • @thedumbassCloudy
      @thedumbassCloudy 2 роки тому

      @@broden4838 Oof

    • @gjtrue
      @gjtrue 2 роки тому

      @@broden4838 Going outta business for real?!

  • @lockitty7263
    @lockitty7263 2 роки тому +225

    Seasons 1-5 = Perfection
    Seasons 6-7 = Perfect sequel
    Seasons 8-9 = Badass Spin-Off
    Seasons 10-13 (Also my personal favorite arc) = Still pretty damn good
    Season 14 - Wtf is this
    Season 15 - It’s decent
    Season 16 - FUCK GO BACK
    Season 17 - Okay, it’s ending on a decent season, now we can move on
    RvB Zero - ….. No words …..

    • @Drkrchngl
      @Drkrchngl 2 роки тому +35

      Completely agree with you. 15 had a good concept and when you sum it up, it actually sounds like a good season (the execution was a bit off but still enjoyable), 16 was horrible and we move on from it, and 17 gets a lot of shit but when you consider that it had to fucking scrape the shit 16 left behind, 17 is a really good season too, taking the concepts that 16 left it with and focusing it down to make a better setting. Then Zero came along and everyone hated it

    • @Pooh0Bear8
      @Pooh0Bear8 2 роки тому +1

      Perfect summary!!!

    • @theamazingmeh1759
      @theamazingmeh1759 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah pretty much accurate.

    • @rileylmao1218
      @rileylmao1218 2 роки тому +16

      i agree with everything u said besides season 14 I think that was a pretty good spin off I just think that it shouldn't be called a season it should be like a mini series or a spin off series or smth

    • @togerino-senpai448
      @togerino-senpai448 2 роки тому +4

      Im gonna be real, Atlus and the last 3 or so episodes of Season 16 are the only things that are keeping me from vehemently hating that season.
      Haven't watched Zero yet and I'm only tempted to do so out of morbid curiosity.

  • @Uzarran
    @Uzarran 11 місяців тому +4

    Hopefully the upcoming final season will be a return to form, and give us all the closure we want from this series.

    • @MugenHeadNinja
      @MugenHeadNinja 9 місяців тому

      Burnie Burns is returning to as writer for the final season, he was the creator of the series and writer for the first 13 seasons as well as contributing to season 14.
      At the very least, I trust this season to be better than 15 - 18.

  • @rougeegamer98
    @rougeegamer98 Рік тому

    Listening to all their podcast up until mid-late 2016 over the span of a couple of months was a holy experience

  • @smugsy6130
    @smugsy6130 2 роки тому +160

    Legitimately pains my heart and is always a big kick to the balls whenever I am reminded of what Roosterteeth is nowadays, spent nearly half my life watching them. The views they're getting now is just tragic to look at

    • @StarTrekGeek47
      @StarTrekGeek47 2 роки тому +8

      I finally had to stop watching their new stuff recently. It makes me sad to say, but they just no longer feel authentic or funny to me.
      They feel like co workers now rather than friends.
      I still listen to red web, but that's it.

    • @alcohosh
      @alcohosh 2 роки тому +7

      That's what happens when you go woke

    • @thunderbutt357XD
      @thunderbutt357XD Рік тому

      the views theyre getting is their own damn fault. they sold out, theyre getting their just desserts. fuck em.

  • @gustavchristiansen8386
    @gustavchristiansen8386 2 роки тому +41

    This reminds me of when i watched the very first animated sequence of Wash getting hit by the car. My jaw was open for the rest of the episode, and i was literally out of my chair in sheer excitement. I also agree with the Chorus ark being good, it definatly had an awesome, almost bitter-sweet, ending. After that i was just dissapointed

  • @maxgoldstein6309
    @maxgoldstein6309 2 роки тому +8

    I'm so glad that when I watched it, season 13 was as far as it existed and since it was such a strong conclusion I never checked if there was more. It'll always have a special place in my heart but it hurts a bit to now see what they did with it.. finding out it kept going hurts about as bad as Boruto, and that's saying something

  • @Khornecussion
    @Khornecussion Місяць тому +3

    " Most of them were 16 year olds in their rooms making what they want. " You didn't have to call out Lyle McDouchebag / Rath like that, dude. Dang. Lol.

  • @lebendigesgespenst7669
    @lebendigesgespenst7669 2 роки тому +49

    I’m still amazed at how well they were able to thread the writing of such complex plots to still be mostly coherent and entertaining back then. It’s a tragedy how far it has fallen

  • @elijahstewart3377
    @elijahstewart3377 2 роки тому +5

    To be honest, the whole conflict with Washington in 14-16 was actually very compelling, at least in my eyes, and went a long way toward redeeming those seasons.

  • @PELTIER5
    @PELTIER5 Місяць тому +2

    The scene comparison you made for Tuckers voice reminded me of when H20 Delirious tried to improve his mic but everyone agreed that he should just stick with the crappy one.

  • @mauriceisaac3646
    @mauriceisaac3646 2 роки тому +47

    I agree. The Chorus trilogy is my favorite RvB saga as it brought everything full circle and should’ve been where the story ended. Season 14 is okay as a bonus season, but it was all downhill from there.

  • @ProwoodStuff
    @ProwoodStuff 2 роки тому +28

    I remember hearing from someone that they thought Zero's characters had as much depth as porn characters.
    That quote is gonna be the thing I say when I die.

  • @lnAmberClad
    @lnAmberClad Рік тому +4

    Damn dude I remember watching this back in '05 with my friends and laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. I'm scared to go back and re-watch it because I know there's no way as good as I remember.

  • @xjudertheduder8364
    @xjudertheduder8364 Рік тому +3

    Every time i re-watch RvB [seasons one through 13 and like a few episodes from season 14 specifically the locus and felix ones which arguably i feel are probably the last best thing to come outta RT] Church's 'aint that a bitch' speech always makes me cry like a baby because its just so good.
    I remember when it came out, and i binged the 'last season' at the time i was hysterical, in a good way. That speech has so much heart to it to the point i have to take year long breaks from re-watching the series because it just makes me cry.
    I've been a fan ever since i was born, literally, because of my mom watching it with me and I've been here this whole time watching it grow and flourish and then..just get disrespected and die.
    Its heartbreaking honestly to see how they threw it away like they did.
    I will forever love this series, and cherish it for what it achieved but always will condemn the fact that they didn't just end it where they should have.
    Ugh.
    You really put my thoughts about it all into words and i really appreciate this video for saying what needed to be said.

  • @GribbleGob
    @GribbleGob 2 роки тому +444

    Honestly Roosterteeth has always been cringey. and as soon as people who cared about making anything good left, the buffer that kept things watchable was gone.

    • @galacticquasaur2956
      @galacticquasaur2956 2 роки тому +14

      Disagree 100% with what you said but everyone has an opinion

    • @enlyr4069
      @enlyr4069 2 роки тому +76

      @@galacticquasaur2956 I agree. You have rich egotistical geeks parading around flashing their odd and aloof personalities, only being checked by older and more reserved staff who have distanced or left the corporation that used to be male friends in a bedroom.

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 2 роки тому +60

      To be fair, it was entertaining cringe which is what people liked. However, when pretty much every founder and writer left, the entertaining part was gone and only cringe remained.

    • @Jayozranger
      @Jayozranger 2 роки тому +1

      No, not really..
      It’s only cringe because now we would think this is cringe, it wasn’t really cringe back then

    • @zekeiwa5837
      @zekeiwa5837 2 роки тому +37

      It was endearing cringe, honest cringe. It was made by people who wanted to have fun and create something for the sake of doing it, it wasn't made by this corporate entity trying to be professional.
      That's what made early UA-cam videos special, even if they sucked

  • @trenchtierstudios554
    @trenchtierstudios554 2 роки тому +196

    The main problem is that RoosterTeeth really doesn't want to give up on their only cash cows. RvB and RWBY have made them tons of money; yet both have been in steady decline over the years. They also haven't been able to recreate the success of either. They had some short term success with Camp Camp and XRay and Vav; yet neither of those shows had a long shelf life. Gen:lock wasn't the breakout success story that they were hoping for and a lot of their other new content has been falling flat.
    Even Achievement Hunter; their offshoot gaming company; has declined in value. The Minecraft episodes really are not that great any more; with them trying different mods just to try and spice it up. Their GTA Online episodes have literally just become them doing the same game types over and over again and hoping that it is enough. Even their TTT content has begun to degrade; with everyone really just going through the motions.

    • @alexrobertson1472
      @alexrobertson1472 2 роки тому +27

      all the talent is gone, really doesnt help

    • @raging_gundam
      @raging_gundam 2 роки тому +14

      Never found the writing in RWBY to be that great honestly. 1-3 are just disappointments cause the build up is there but don't execute it right or at all. 4-8 are just bad and just tries to please hardcore shippers

    • @trenchtierstudios554
      @trenchtierstudios554 2 роки тому +23

      @@raging_gundam Yeah. The story itself was a bit clunky 1-3; yet the action scenes and the music were top notch. Yet it seemed that they were starting to get the story hammered out and improved come season 4. Then Monty passed and the show ended up getting worse each season.

    • @MasterHall117
      @MasterHall117 2 роки тому +5

      They should really pick back up on Nomad of Nowhere…

    • @Hentanimanga
      @Hentanimanga 2 роки тому +27

      Yeah man... fuck you've summed how I've felt. I've been with them since the early days, since the podcast was called Drunk Tank.
      I slowly lost interest in the main RT Podcast. Slowly stopped watching all of the main RT stuff, just AH stuff. I love Off Topic still, but only for Michael, Gave, Jack and Jeremy. But the actual content of the channel is not watcheable anymore... Minecraft is dead (Been watching since EP1) GTA is dead, (Watched all of everything from the days of GTA 4 vids)... TTT was the best of the new stuff, at first I wasn't into it, but it gave me too many good laughs, holy shit it was hilarious while they learned it. Then it started getting stale again...
      Then Ryan happened... Shit man... I just stepped away. I refuse to believe that noone else there knew. When the purge was happening people started making compilations of all the suspicious shit that Ryan said in videos, all of the stuff that we laugh about and said "Ah that's just Mad King Ryan being dark edgy and funny"
      I love them all too much to think the worst of them, but it's happened once now, it's hard to be blindly naïve. I understand why Burnie stepped away now. He created something beautiful, but it's self destructing and he's got his family's financial security to think of, and too much bad shit starts happening when you grow this large, ESPECIALLY in the gaming community.
      Look at Blizzard.
      Fuck I remember simpler times.
      When it was just the guys sitting around a table drunk talking shit.
      When it was just a bunch of guys in a box canyon in the middle of nowhere.
      When it was just a bunch of guys fucking around in Minecraft.
      When it was just a bunch of guys blowing shit up in GTA 4.
      When it was just a bunch of kids with cool weapons in a hogwarts-like school.
      When it was just a collection of hilarious fails and Halo clips sent from the community.
      When it was just about the new games around the corner, and not box openings for the millionth time.
      When it was just a bunch of guys trying to beat Ray at literally anything.
      Burnie was smart, but I feel bad for Geoff because he's or ride or die kind of motherfucker, and he'll ride this one out to the end... For better or worse. Love you Geoff, Michael, Gav, Jack, Jeremy, and Fredo. (In that order. =D )
      A distant high five for Gus.
      A hug for Burnie.
      A hug for Joel.
      A shitty pun for Barb.
      RIP Monty.
      And Ryan... kindly find a bridge.

  • @cappo1178
    @cappo1178 Рік тому

    I didn't even know there was mini series on Washington! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @DeFens1993
    @DeFens1993 11 місяців тому

    This is completely unrelated but I just wanted to say what you said at 15:09 really resonated with me. I’m moving about a thousand miles away for college in a couple days and it helped me realize that regardless of how much I’ll miss my friends or my family, it’s a good thing that my time at home is coming to and end. If I decided to not go to college, my life would end up more stagnant and stale from not getting the job I want, and it’s best to accept this change in my life. I guess I went on a bit of a tangent but thank you, even though you didn’t mean it in the context I speak of, your words really helped.

  • @ethanwest5765
    @ethanwest5765 2 роки тому +81

    "This was made back in 2003, I wasn't even 1 yet."
    I feel old. Born in 93, it feels weird that my gf born in 2k doesn't know what a floppy disk is.

    • @Loudest_Cricket_
      @Loudest_Cricket_ 2 роки тому +7

      '95.
      Pepperidge Farms remembers.

    • @EskimoCanadian44
      @EskimoCanadian44 2 роки тому +4

      '97 Represent.
      I remember stumbling across RvB as a kid, some way, some how, back in 05/06. Browsing Internet Explorer 6 on the family PC running Windows XP Professional. Looking back, those days could be described as the "Wild West" of the online era, back when broadband internet was in its infancy. To be completely honest, I have no idea how I even discovered RvB, but I instantly became hooked and binged the whole series up to the latest episode at the time, which was during season 4 or season 5. Personally, I think RT was at their prime from about 2008 to 2015, give or take a year or two. The main bulk of their best content was definitely produced in that specific time frame. I saw the imminent decline some years ago, and ever since I simply drifted away from RvB and RT altogether. They are going the way of Machinima (the company) and I would be very surprised indeed if they are still around in another 5+ years.

    • @jamesgutierrez4695
      @jamesgutierrez4695 2 роки тому +2

      '04 here.
      Early 2013 and i got my first Xbox and with it halo 3 after that stumbled on RvB, loved it then and now

    • @curtisjackson4090
      @curtisjackson4090 2 роки тому +1

      Whipper snappers

  • @AKMotions
    @AKMotions 2 роки тому +226

    The worst part about my hatred for rooster teeth is that I used to love them. it is no wonder Burnie left though, he probably wanted to be remembered for how he ran the company instead of sticking around and being blamed for all the current shit.

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +3

      He should have never hired Miles Luna, that way, Monty Oum would still be alive today

    • @zXPeterz14
      @zXPeterz14 2 роки тому +24

      @@broden4838 i thought he died of a severe allergic reaction

    • @broden4838
      @broden4838 2 роки тому +3

      @@zXPeterz14 I've had suspicions Miles was jealous of Monty's talent

    • @redrover1172
      @redrover1172 2 роки тому +79

      @@zXPeterz14 he did, this is one of those nutcases that like to push conspiracy theories.

    • @zXPeterz14
      @zXPeterz14 2 роки тому +19

      @@redrover1172 makes sense, people are very weird haha

  • @WyattKing.
    @WyattKing. 10 місяців тому

    Ending topped it off! Amazing.

  • @brovid-19
    @brovid-19 2 роки тому

    One of my favorite lines in a fight scene ever:
    "Protect me, cone!" _holds up and cowers behind a traffic cone_