the evil breakdown from 'PHANTOMS' by Meshuggah
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Time Consuming Ep #68 continues the 'Phantoms' episode from a few weeks ago: • Breaking the unspoken ...
'Phantoms' original song:
• Phantoms
the konnakol video:
• Explaining Meshuggah u...
Special thanks to Yoel Genin aka Shwesmo for the guitar recording !
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please do marrow next
He already tried some time ago, and decided to switch to another song for time consuming, mayb e he can manage this time
Yeah, I also remember him saying that he tried Marrow like a year ago. But he wasn’t successful to figure it out that time. He couldn’t find any reoccurring logic in it if I remember correctly. I would also love to see Marrow some day on this channel.
Could be an interesting livestream, the one showcasing "I" was cool
Yes please my favourite
The outro of marrow makes my pants wet
I would love to see you interview Dick Lövgren about how this tune was written. That dude came out of nowhere to write amazing tunes on the last two albums.
Hell yeah I'll be happy to !
I don't think he came out of nowhere :P he's been playing with Meshuggah for a very long time... so I'm sure he picked up a lot of things haha
God and I love this song and the album itself is amazing. It's still growing on me and I think it's my favorite so far and great work with your analysis.
Tomas Haake said they are currently not taking it into the live rotation because this song is "easy to fuck up" :D
boy oh boy do I understand that hahahahahhaha
I must say, this Meshuggah album has not disappointed. They Move Below is an absolute journey of a song, highly recommend giving that one a listen for anyone who hasn't. Super glad you covered Phantoms, very beautiful songwriting and soundscapes.
They move below is easily my favorite off this album
I literally cried of fear when hearing They Move Below for the first time
Track of the year for me. This song is so damn bad ass and epic!
Now I know why Jens makes “Those” faces, after trying to understand these all these song breakdowns, it was how my face looked
I love the "Nothing" feel of this riff (at least to me reminds me of Organic Shadow, kind of like how that riff in the middle of This Spiteful Snake gives me Catch33 vibes).
The Ligature Mark riff reminds me of Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave it Motion (maybe a little too much, a great song too as well, but I prefer Break Those Bones personally).
Yes, when the breakdown intro started, I was instantly back to “Nothing”
Wow mind blown. Great work. It's like the science of Meshuggah, and I've almost never seen anything more beautiful.
The transition from the first part into the second is so esoteric to my ears. Like a mountain with intelligence.
My sentiments exactly
That's so cool, the way you show everything in here is not for everyone but we, the ones who understand what you're talking about, really dig it and appreciate it.
One question, have you ever noticed a comment on your videos from any member of Meshuggah or have they ever been in touch with you due to your breakdowns? Because this is awesome, I mean is like someone telling the secret of a magic trick but, instead of been hidden, the trick is right there, waiting to be discovered and understood, like a message in a bottle.
I'm trying to get to them yes, but till now I didn't succeed. Will keep trying !
Another beautiful job! Well done 👍
Man, you're freaking insane! I love your videos
love your videos as always!
Great stuff, as always!
First Time Unconsuming video! Congrats!
Great analysis bro! They're super detailed and very visual. Please do Nostrum next \m/
awesome track, so freaking groovy. Thank you for making these videos. I dont generally think about the numbers when I listen to Meshuggah, i just try and feel it, but it is cool to see exactly what is going on
You're a legend, Yogi.
Hope all is well!
Loved the video. Phantoms is definitely my favorite off the new album.
He did it ! Thank you! You legend
Yessss, this is so good!
This riff is such an amazing meditation, staying in time and dropping conscious mind.
Love it!
Glad you enjoy it Amy !
Absolutely love your meshuggah vids. Learning so much. Hope we get straws pulled at random this may, can’t seem to count the verse.❤
Ohh thanks !! Will put in on the list !
"To craft a number of any system - patterns emerge"
My dad and I are both huge Meshuggah fans. Everytime you upload, I immediately send a link to my dad and we go nuts over how awesome these patterns are. Thank you for making these amazing videos
you guys rock !
best father son activities hahahah
Hey man, if you ever want to take a break from meshuggah, the album Panther from Pain of Salvation really surprised me with how much odd time signature parts it has, and my brain refuses to keep track of the rhythm in Accelerator for some reason. Not a track meaty enough for a full video on its own probably, but the album as a whole is just really cool
YEES +1 to this!
Leo, their drummer, does some really cool and groovy stuff with fun time sigs :D
Also, Gustaf Hielm was in PoS up until recently!
Yeah! Agreed. Pretty sure Unfuture uses a lot of 5 or 10
ohhh fosho ! what song ?!
@@YogevGabay Firstly, you doing more PoS is FIRE!
"Fandango", "Wait" or maybe "Accelerator"
.. not sure which has the most "info" to break down :D
@@milimaximus1624 Noted !
HUGE PROPS for this video man! Loved it!
This song goes well with that show “Severance.”
Thank youuuuuu Yogev! This song has inhabited the soul since the day it came out. Sent the link to 4 fellow students of Meshuggah
Ohhhh yes !!!
Thanks! now i can understand this groove
Was waiting for it ! Noice
Amazing stuff, as always. Love the content, and even my wife doesn't mind, despite being married to a drummer :D
Any chance you'll take a look at some Intronaut?
Prehistoricisms, Valley of Smoke and Habitual Levitations are some of the albums of all time, for sure!
HOLY SHIT. this is insane!
One of the best breakdowns of all time imo.
Hey! LOVE your content. Thanks to your song breakdowns I learned to play some of my favourite meshuggah tunes on the bass. It helps me understand how the tabs fit into the song.
Also, will there ever be a chance to hear HAGO play live?
Rock on!
Yo sadly HAGO was a 1 time project so probably not?
The main writer from that album is Yoel Genin AKA Shwesmo and we still do a bunch of music together, hopefully some heavy tunes soon !
Fantastic as always! Would love to see some Car Bomb analyses!!!
I have one ! More to come !
ua-cam.com/video/_w7qpRWQ0kQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=YogevGabay
Immutable was the first Meshuggah album I took out of rotation after only two listens. Usually they stay in for like a year. I might have to revisit it after all these videos you have done.
You should, I think it's one their best works !
Took a while for me to get into it. It definitely has a different approach but once you get into it, Immutable has some pretty great stuff.
Thank you Meshuggah guy.
Yeah dude!
YES FINALLY
More importantly Yogev: Are you sponsored by Sharpie for some of that sweet sweet dank cashish?! 😅
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Thank you thank you tank you
I love what you're doing! Do you plan to make more Car Bomb analysis in the future? The Sentinel was so fun to watch. Also, do you think you could analyze the outro of One in my Head by Andromeda?
I like the idea of doing a car bomb analysis, my brain almost refuses to accept that there's any order to their music
@@jakeorel3406 Yet it is so satisfying when you finally figure something out when listening to them!
I'm gonna try to do another one yes. I'm on tour now, but aiming to try again when I'm back !
@@YogevGabay Nice! Thank you, and have a nice tour!
Wow you actually did the second riff analysis. Don't know if you were planning to do it or you did it because me and maybe others asked you, but either way thank you very much.
I think i know what was confusing me. This is a rare case of host and guest being very close in strength (in 2nd rep) and it makes me confused.
It was definitely because of you, he read your comment.
Dude your user name is gold.
@@YogevGabay mine?
@@guitaristssuck8979 i hope😂 mine's my actual name
@@guitaristssuck8979 Hell yeah yours hahahahah
This part is a straight 4/4 with a swing to it. A lot of beats come in just before or after the 1. So if in your head, you’re starting on 1 every time the riff “repeats”, it’s going to totally screw up ur perception of the groove. This is truly an amazing grove. I hate to say it because I like these videos, but I think that thinking of it as all these random time signatures really destroys one’s ability to hear the groove
I’d like to see you breakdown Vildjarta!
wow! very nice!
Yogev u meni kewl go for marrow!
sick
Hello. Do you tink meshuggah actually plans these things like how your described or is it just a feel thing?
Nah they definitely know what they are doing. It might not be as geeky as this (no insult meant..) but they’ve been writing like this for years. It’s just how their brain works.
my guess is they definitely know what they're doing.
But they've been doing it for so so so long that it became normal for them to compose such complicated music.
So it might look insane to us, but to them it's probably just another day at work
I personally don't think the concept of what they are doing is that difficult even though the execution obviously is. My guess is they mostly come up with a pattern they like, add some other layers and then problem solve how to fit it into a 4/4.
I would say that's what makes their music feel somewhat human afterall. It definitely sounds like a machine but it's not perfect, it's like a rusty engine that broke down and got repaired by some old dude using random scrap inside his garage.
I saw a studio clip of them writing I and they had a notebook they were looking at while playing so they could keep track of the song. Maybe thats just for I though cause that song is impossible to memorize
I don't know how they usually write, but I do remember one of them mentioning at some point that several of them had programmed drum pattern ideas for one of the albums which if nothing else strongly implies that at least those members know the rhythmic theory behind their riffs because you wouldn't "feel out" clicking hits into a drum machine. Some people really worship the whole "just go with the flow, music is magic maaaaan" idea but the simple reality is that if you want to write music with patterns this complex it makes a lot of sense to at least learn how to count first, there's nothing wrong with knowing what you're doing before you do it.
Another Meshuggah breakdown? Yes please.
Just awesome. I couldn't figure out the larger 3 and it really bugged me. Thanks for all your work.
you are genius and crazy mam, enjoy!
You gotta do a breakdown for The Shaggs. None of them knew 'how' to play so they just made music however they wanted. It's fascinating and right up your alley.
You are a little trouble maker😮😲😱
Dude, the shaggs are the meaning of life. The essence of music and the force behind us all.
Just look at all those gorgeous 33s
The best song in the album in my opinion, a bit sad they didn't play it live. But the show was amazing anyway.
Will see them in Sept !
Pineal gland optics next for sure. Please
Great video dude! Also, how did you play the song and count along without UA-cam getting mad at you for c*pee-wright?
I'm flattered you ask this, I remade the track from scratch !
MIDI drums, and a friend playing guitar.
Yet still, YT has flagged it
All I hear is 4/4 when listening to Meshuggah. It makes life so much easier. You should try that. :)
I find it easier to count the 4 as a 4th note, and the small 3 as an 8th+16th.
The 2s I don't count but try to feel the Rest.
So I go: Note, broken-note, note, rest, note, note, rest, note, broken, repeat
VIOLENT SLEEP OF REASON
Love meshuggah need more car bomb tho n just to say your kundalini trio thing was brilliant
OHHHHH thanks !!!
Which car bomb song is next? i personally think you should tackle nonagon
Didn't decode yet, but your vote did register
Can you please do a Time Consuming for The Summoning by Sleep Token?? 🙏
I either saw you at the Boston Meshuggah show last night, or you've got a doppelganger out there.
Or both.
I was indeed there.
It was so tightttttttt
It's frustrating that I basically understand everything these videos are covering and at the same time I can't really wrap my head around it
Those big 3s look like Pacman
Can you do a breakdown on 2.59 on Haken's Puzzle Box?
Haken is definitely coming soon !
My brain hurts
How will it work? Do meshuggah guys play with these counts in mind or just memorize their parts? State secret?
I think they memorize it, but they're definitely aware of what's going on
sploosh
You gotta check out Fractalize if you haven’t already
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Could u analyse "Marrow" by Meshuggah? I think it's a pretty hard song, or just i am so dummy to these things
See, there's one problem with that.
I'd love to, but I have no idea whats going on there.
The intro is a group of 15, cool, the rest for the first half is something I can probably figure out, but the second half is a mistety to me !
Thanks for the answer! I love ur content :D
You should check out a band from New York called cryptodira. They do a lot of insane polyrhythm, and structure stuff I feel like you would appreciate. I’ve watched a video of the drummer break down a drum beat that was three different rhythms rhythms all at once.
On it
My poor brain haha
New Millenium Cyanide Christ. Please
This whole tune has this weird quality in that I can feel the beat, but I can't hear it.
Don't know if someone already asked for Faviidaee (Shwesmo), 'cause I don't have a fu@@@ng clue how to count .....
Ohhhh it's a cool track and I think it's in 13?
@@YogevGabay thank you! I try.... : )
What are the chances of breaking down First Steps by Cory Henry? That song seems to be an exercise in constantly playing but still remaining really subtle
Will listen !
@@YogevGabay thanks! I’m not at the point of figuring it out on my own yet. And as far as I can tell through searching no one has broken it down at all
This is another track from Meshuggah that seems like they just threw random feels to it. Again, we're proven wrong.
Thanks, Yogev.
Why’s the breakdown gotta be evil ?
So man, I really appreciate your over-analytical breakdown of this song- but I guarantee you the members of Meshuggah would laugh hard at this video. It’s all about feel and familiarity. I have no idea what the times are, but I can play the simple beat and baseline. They didn’t sit down writing math equations to create this song. I suppose some peoples left and right brain have a difficult time working in tandem……and that’s why they’ll always be critics over true musicians. It is what it is. Still interesting though- while most people are trying so hard to find the numbers, I FIND the groove.
The only thing worth laughing at is this comment. If look at the behind the scenes video of the "I" recording, this is almost exactly how Meshuggah themselves chart out the songs when recording them.
@@PontschPauPau3451 probably for your aforementioned ‘I’ which is the only song they won’t play live, this type of video would be necessary? Keep laughing.
Meanwhile will feel bad for you and your lack of feel. Maybe for a chaotic, horribly long song like ‘I’ I could sympathize, but perhaps that’s why they never play it? Get my point? Sometimes songs that have a groove don’t require such a complex analysis. This was absolutely not necessary. Perhaps he should have done ‘I’ instead? Or Sol Niger? LOL
Show me whatcha got wizard. Otherwise- shove it
What if I told you, the groove IS numbers. It's like how physics is really just math when you break it down, music too. Fun fact: You can make any possible sound in the universe simply by combining sine waves.
I really have no F idea why you complicate this. It’s simply 2s and 5s with some 4s in “breaks”. Still the best song from the album imo
That only accounts for how many times the pick hits the string; it doesn’t account in any way for the actual rhythmic breakdown or sense of timing.
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