This AK was made possible by zack/AKGuy, but it was under strict instructions to follow the AK105 blueprints. The base rifle was a saga 5,45, which uses the semi auto version of the AK74M receiver (factory Kalashnikov), the barrel is the same barrel as the 74M, so are the bolt, carrier and trunnion. What Zack had to do was fit the factory AK105 parts kit (that i obtained from the motherland pre-war) to the saiga 5.45 and ensure my annoying specs were met, including doing things the hard way like relocating the gas port from the 74M position to the 105 position and angle drilling the port at the correct size. So extra attention was present to duplicate what Kalashnikov concern publishes for their blueprints (my sources are from KK directly), and using a Kalashnikov Concern base rifle that used AK74M/AK105 guts that Kalashnikov concern put together (or built). Therefore, the AK105 isn't put together using any alternative methods that would deviate it from factory specs, but rather it's a factory spec 105 shooting factory steel cased ammo.
2 AK's aced the practical test course. Goes to show Practice goes a long way. "Sure it matters who's got the bigger stick but it hell of a lot matters more who's swinging it" - Shepherd has a point.
@@felix4820 The action and manual of arms is very similar to the AK - Long stroke Piston, Rock and lock Magazine and the side charging handle is similar to the AK, so while not exactly an AK variant, it IS similar to the operation. The only thing that's different from one on the other is the safety, but otherwise, they're almost similar in operation.
I have experimented with AK's cut just in front of the gas block.......I had I 13.5 " 5.56 Saiga that I traded for a Vepr 12 and it was VERY accurate. Henry actually responded to a comment I made back then about it and mentioned a variant in 5.45......gentlemen I have come to believe that this barrel length is the perfect solution for the 5.45/5.56 AK's. The 7.62 x 39 maybe also, but I have not noticed as much of a difference. (although there is some improvement). I personally believe it is reducing that famous barrel whip shown in slow motion camera work. Perhaps this with some affect caused by the right chassis system, and we get some kind of magic. I'm no one special, just a dude that has built a few and tinkered with a lot of AK's.....my opinion is you are onto something with the mid length variants. I have had the same experience myself more than once. I even trimmed a FAL back to 14" once and with my hand loads it was comically accurate. I guess there is a sweet spot with every platform, it's over my head but I to have seen it.....good shooting my friends.
Generally same reason bull barrels are used for many precision guns, stiffer barrel is better, advantage to bull barrels is you can match their length to the powder load, ensuring fullburn which equals maximum velocity (that helps with drop and wind drift) ... So i would assume a longer stiffer barrel may perform even better (or should i say easier to shoot as well)
PWS used to make a mid-length gas piston AR(Think LWRC, not AK). I had Addax tactical get me one since they were friends with PWS guys. It had the double chrome lined FN barrel, and it shoots more accurately than should be possible, and it was pleasant to shoot. Just a magical combo. They went with the AK style piston now, but the other could have been a great dmr
I just picked one up without the furniture for 650 and couldn’t be happier with it. I’m still waiting for the 102 to come back in stock as well. Just a shame kuşa never got around to making the 5.45/5.56 guns, I need that real 100 series for clone nerd reasons and while the PSA 105 is very nice and feels much better all around than the old gf3 I bought years ago, it’s not a legit 100 series
@Xmara01 Interesting... thought I was blocked from Anyone seeing anything that I posted on eeau tobe. ( After all, I'm everything they Dont like ) Yet 9 hole won't touch their bad run on their parts kit PSL. Robski, & multiple others had vastly different results ( On 90's New rifles ) Including 3 I've owned. Yes, a decent DMR. A "Sniper " rifle it is not. I was just hoping for a response. That's all.
Beautiful run. When you guys mentioned how not all 105s were made at the same time with the same QC, I was literally thinking that whichever Ivan made this definitely didn't do it on a friday afternoon.
Monday, not friday. Russian men tend to drink friday, saturday and sunday and then they go to work with hangover. That is the reason why the most common day for russian men to die is monday...
@@ljubomirculibrk4097 russians have trough history been "kept in check" by the people in power with cheap vodka. Maybe city people drink less, but rural, low income people, the true working class, drink a lot. There was a book I read that stated that in one point in the modern history a russian could use a third of his monthly salary on vodka.
I knew at some point there was going to be a AK that would clear the course cleanly. The only question i had was if it'd be a 5.56 AK or a 5.45 AK. I used to(naively) believe that the AK could never be as if not more accurate than a AR. But over time, i realized the AK platform actually is more accurate when you give it a smaller bullet.(7.62x39 isn't bad and is capable, but the long range ballistics performance compared to the 5.56 and the 5.45 simply outperforms it.)
Honestly before seeing this I thought 5.56 was better at range too even though its ass compared to a full power cartridge but now I don't know. I know 5.45 shreds soft targets way better at closer ranges but I figured that range would be the compromise
Hi Henry and thank you! As an owner of Saiga MK03 I was really pleased to see how skillfully you demonstrated technical possibilities of my rifle. But this setup in your hands is not fully the same as I have. Yes, its the same receiver, stock and even fire control US Palm handle. But my barrel is different, its 341mm long instead of 314 due to civilian law restrictions. And my optics is Holosun 503 and the last worth to mention difference is that my ammunition is 223Rem instead of 5,45 ) But no matter, I also thought before (like many people) that shortened AK is for storm actions and CQB. After good practice experience I realised that I'm desperate enogh to conquer 300m distances. And only after your video I see now what kind of challenge my rifle is worthy. Thanks again and best regards from Moscow.
Shorter barrel means less barrel to flex. Cutting the barrel and adding a front sight/muzzle device combo was a common thing to increase [snicker] the Mini-14's accuracy [chortle].
Absolute killer run, especially considering its a 12.5". Runs like this just make me think back to that one Tavor you guys had on the show that took more than twice the rounds and didn't even make it to the 500 yard target. Also kinda makes you question what really makes a gun accurate.
Hats off to you guys! Thank you for showing the world, that it is not that much about the rifle, but mainly about the one, who is using it. Not just with thisone, but also with all the other rifles you shoot.
i find the special forces setups with ak 12 rifles pretty interesting. from a few interviews they really start to love the rifle , it has some minor problems left wich most are fixable in field. I am really happy seing the ak 12 getting more and more love. a big plus is also that the ak 12 aftermarket is geting huge.
The AK-100 series uses a slightly thicker receiver than the AKM or the AK-74 based rifles (1.25mm versus 1mm). I wonder if that contributes to increased accuracy you've noted in the AK-100 series rifles. Regarding the gassing and decreased recoil versus a standard-length AK-74... I think it's fair to note that Zach would have needed to re-drill the gas hole for the shorter barrel, and that Zach's work may be more precise than a factory that turns out hundreds (if not thousands) of rifles a day on an assembly line. Anyway, I am very impressed with the run and super jealous of the build. You and Josh have also improved a lot as a shooter/spotter team.
Yeah its not just Zach from AKG that is more precise, it's gonna be the drill press he's using to drill these and even the drill bits are definitely going to be higher quality than what you'd find in a 3rd world AK factory. I don't know but he might even be using a bridgeport mill to drill these and they're very controllable with the DRO and such. The receiver thickness probably doesn't have much to do with the accuracy. It probably has more to do with the fact that this was built by a high end custom AK builder. Honestly, the barrel is mounted to the front trunnion not the receiver directly so I think the receiver probably has very little to do with the accuracy. Maybe though? What do I know.
@@skepticalbadger I think there are only two main types of izhmash ak receiver today: one for 5.45 and another for 5.56 and 7.62x39, cause that was the idea behind the ak unification in 90s. So every ak 100 in 5.45 should have the same receiver.
@@trofchik9488 the AK-105 would need a slightly larger gas port than the AK-74M, due to the shorter barrel and reduced dwell time. This rifle started life with a 16" barrel, so Zach would have needed to increase the gas port diameter as part of the conversion process. But perhaps Zach's work is likely much more precise than a factory-built AK-105 from Russia. So it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.
I think the "AKs are inaccurate" thing is in reference to the mass use of really out AKs with shot out barrels with crappy/old ammo. Modern machining and ammo makes a big diff.
We met some marines that said there pistols weren't much good after 25yards we then pointed out that a 70year old guy on u tube regularly hits a metal gong at 80 yards with dozens of different guns (Mr Hickok) this makes me feel that with practice more people could shoot better and I wonder how the average shooter does on this course and how much Henry's skill makes a difference between different models and did he just get a good example.? Love to see a random selection of these range tested out of the box 👍
Well people that eat crayons usually won't get a proper competitive pistol and push it to the limit. It's probably what they heard in boot camp and they're just parroting the info. I can reliably plink large IPSC poppers even at 100 metres with a CZ Shadow 2 with irons. If you learn to not jerk the trigger and compensate for bullet drop you can get alot of range out of a good pistol
Sure, Hicock can hit a large gong at 80 yrds (not always on first shot) in his backyard.... hitting a person (often moving or partially obscured behind cover) with effective shots during combat past 25yrds with a pistol is going to be tough for most anyone..... Im sure they didnt say or imply they couldnt possibly hit a target past 25yrds on a flat range.
When you are shooting with a pistol for fun,yes why not .But in a war situation I wouldn't bet my life with a pistol.first about the lethality of the bullet,with today's vests.good enough in case you are caught with your pants down and you don't have anything else handy.otherwise it's an extra weight.in the war situation where dust ,mud ,rocks ,sand are present,my first preference for an assault rifle it is the AK.battle rifle,SCAR,FN FAL,G3.as for the M4 it is finicky in battle situations because of the dirt factor.if I had to ,I will choose a HK 416.it eliminates all the problems with the AR platform
Ok boys - there are collections of tomes to unpack here about AK accuracy in this utterly fantastic video... However, I won't delve into all the accuracy enhancements that can be done to the Kalashnikov, particularly when it's built, but I think the unsung hero is the round and even this type of ammo. The 5.45 is ballistically more efficient than a 5.56 - which they didn't mention but should've when they referenced the AK Niner. This is also Russian ammo in a barrel built by Russians in a factory and barrel designed for that Russian ammo - home run there. This is rather exceptional performance for the ammo - even given all other variables, including Henry's obvious skill and experience. I think if they researched ammo more and shot as many groups as they could (short and long range) this thing could have performed a little bit better, believe it or not. I get respectable groups out of my 5.45 rifles with all kinds of Russian or whatever post Comm Bloc ammo... But if they shot Hornady or some other precision 5.45 (if that even exists...), the accuracy could've been better - which is even more remarkable given the "platform" and it's inherent limitations regarding accuracy.
Check out SSG 82 East German police sniper rifle. It's chembered for 5,45x39. I've read an article in Polish press about that rifle, and there was mentioned, that the owner had to make his own handloads, carefully measuring and weighting each projectile and powder load for each cartridge. But after this ordeal, he printed impresively tight groups.
The first AK kit build I had done was the AK105. Since then I've gotten 3 more different AK's built and bought another 8 factory built AK's. The 105 is still my favorite.
I have been following your channel for a long time and I have to say that your professional expertise is very high. I was born in East Germany and served in the former NVA. I have previously shot an AK47 and therefore know the strengths and weaknesses of this weapon. And what is very important - I still learned how to sight using the rear sight and front sight. Nowadays, shooting is almost exclusively done with diopters or optical sights. That's why I'm impressed by their shooting skills, especially with AK series weapons. You are an absolutely objective weapons expert. Congratulations.
I would expect Finnish RK to be built with tight enough tolerances to reach that accuracy but seeing Russian build do that was more surprising. The base operating systems tend to be more accurate than shooters when built properly no matter if it is long stroke, short stroke or internal piston...
Well, almost all guns are more accurate than the shooter is capable of.. There are guy's that can take a 9mm handgun out to 150+ yards with his Dan Wesson DWX accurately like freaking ex. Seal Chadd of 3 of 7 project's site.. and Hickock .45 hits his gong out there at around 75 yards or so all the time..
@@tullo5564just hope ammo comes back down in price one day. I know 7.62 isn’t the only inflated ammo price, .223 is as well. Just sucks to be a fan right now😢
Dude. Yes. We shoot off my back deck of the ranch out to some crazy distances. .22lr out to 400yards on cow patties. Centerfire cartridges accomplish ridiculous feats. .22lr never ceases to amaze me even after shooting them daily since dirt was dust. Get a nice rimfire rifle with a ffp grid & 40moa mount and run the course for me.
That reference came from the 7.62x39, Hence why the Russians came out with the 5.45x39 in the first place, was to compete with the 5.56x45 round at longer ranges as the 7.62x39 does start having a lot of bullet drop after 300 yards/M compared to the 5.45 and 5.56, like double the drop, if I remember right. If you are a great shot you can shoot out to 600 yards with a 7.62x39, but as you see in video footage of people such as Rob at AKOU hit out to 600 yards , but the bullet looks more like it is being launched like a mortar round.. 300 and under though the 7.62x39 has considerable energy though. That being said I have a 7.62x39 AK, but with the current cost and availability of 7.62x39 and especially the 5.45x39 it defeated the whole reason I bought my AK to begin with, cheap rifle and cheaper ammo, neither are true anymore sadly.. Yeah ,if you are wealthy and a collector I guess it is not such an issue, but for me I am seriously thinking of getting rid of my AK and the 2500rnds of ammo I have just for the reasons I mentioned alone... My AR has widely available parts and ammo and aftermarket support is way beyond that of an AK.. That being said I have a Cheap PSA GF3 that I modified a little, but was pleasantly surprised when I first shot it with the original furniture and just the Iron sights as, first of all the front sight was not canted at all and it was right on at 100 yards shooting 4in clays laying against the 100 yard berm, so I would guess it was more like 120-125 yards out and I am not what you consider a good shot, being I get very little practice in at .50 cents per round and I like to shoot at least 300-500 rounds when I go to an out door range, so it cost a minimum of $150 with just shooting the AK, not including the pistol ammo, The only thing I can go crazy on is my little Ruger 10/22.. 😂 Perhaps one day I will be able to afford training regularly..
This has more to do with Henry being an absolute monster behind the trigger than how good a specific platform is .. this man can really shoot .. especially with irons 😳
The shorter barrel might actually be more mechanically accurate than a longer one. The shorter barrel will be more rigid, and that may make the difference
Seeing that 105 takes me back to a time in my life that was much more interesting then my current day to day. Edit: that said, the ones we used had folding stocks not fixed stocks. And no one says "da da da" one would say "da kanishno".
Great video for many reasons - thanks guys! And I love the exact attention to detail for the build (I actually read the whole video description). I would really like to use an unmolested Saiga 5.45 build and go the 105 route... So sexy and as accurate as you can get.
Definitely unexpected but a pleasant surprise. Spotting and shooting in this episode was something else. It feels like 9-Hole can start looking back at the old runs and do justice for some of the rifles. ;) Bonus round definitely should be a factor for clean runs now on.
People like to dump on the ak platform it has been a very effective weapon system for a long time with a good not great shooter behind it is more than capable of reaching out to 500 meters thanks for providing evidence of it keep up the wonderful videos
Please consider taking two common often compared opposites like the AR and AK, And do something like an average. Where you take each, say 5-10 Times to the range on different days, at the end of which you average their score and publish the results!
There was a rumor that a lot of AK-105 were produced in Russia to fulfill Venezuela's military contract. And traditionally, foreign military contracts have the best quality-control in Russia. But this exact contract was canceled what ended up in converting a lot of ready military rifles into civil variants and selling them wherever it's possible. Lore really fits your results.
According to the weapons legislation of the Russian Federation, trace formation on civilian and military weapons should be different. Therefore, it is very doubtful that the barrel from a military AK would end up on a civilian Saiga. I also note that users of civilian Saiga in Russia have shot at targets at 500 meters or more more than once. There are many videos on UA-cam on this topic.
@@Dima-cx7gv Yep, they just add a special pin to the barrel what makes traces on the bullet different(and could potentially ruin accuracy). Simple civillian Saiga in Russia usually is a pretty crappy rifle. It's a common thing for domestic products. I've heard a lot of complaints about Zastava in Serbia, while abroad they considered decent AK-based rifles.
I hear you say the words "this is not an ideal precision rifle set up" but yet here we are with what looks like to be an ideal precision rifle set up. 😅
@@skepticalbadger really? thank you sir! i guess i skiped that part. I mentioned the rifle had a "АВ" and "ОД" inscripted on the reciever. So i thought that was actual AK. For the russian civilian market Kalashnikov produces Saigas with only S (safe) and ОД (semi) mode only. so the selector doesn't have an additional choice.
I don't think the AK platform will ever recover from its general level of misconception in the U.S. mainly driven by the terrible kit-builds put out by Century, IO Inc., etc. It's more or less an ignored platform and sadly will now remain as such with the steady increase in cost of the ammo, particularly 5.45x39. The days of a nice $500 dollar SGL-31 Saiga fed by cheap 5.45x39 is gone...long gone.
Well this made me reconsider turning my 223 saiga into a 102 instead of a 101. Especially since i just got my first suppressor and realized how heavy it gets out front with light/ laser/ suppressor.
Very nice analysis! 2 questions: 1. How would the accuracy of the AK-105 be under 400m if you held the handguard hard (since it doesn't have a free floating barrel)? 2. How would the accuracy, handling, etc be on an AK-104 be compared to this and other rifles?
@@yummyKFCstuff soft target wound channel is also far nastier Banana ballistics did a shoot out between them and the 5.45 not only tumbled far more but it shed the friggen copper jacket and it shot off into a separate wound channel. I rather be shot by 5.56 up close any day
Well the 5.45 was designed after the 5.56 to counter it, and they dumped the heavier 7.62x39 so That would make some sense, better range and they can carry twice the ammo for given weight of each round.. I know I would rather have a more affective round and be able to carry twice as much of it also given the weight of a a 7.62x39 being 123-124 grains compared to a 55-60gr projectile that has more range, more effective and less than half the weight..
Both Wolf and Tula ammo have preformed well for me in a bunch of ARs. I have gotten better groups at 100 yards with this ammo than some of the expensive stuff
What mount and riser combo is that? I’m attempting to line up an ACSS Pegasus with my EXPS2 and precise info on centerline heights is difficult to find for many magnifier mounts. Lower 1/3rd is all over the place between manufacturers. HELP!
now get yourself hands on ak 200 and current gen ak 12 and do a spetsnaz video on them. the ak 12 is really starting to get popular under sf guys after some modifications , and the new one from what i heard they are easpacially excited
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This AK was made possible by zack/AKGuy, but it was under strict instructions to follow the AK105 blueprints. The base rifle was a saga 5,45, which uses the semi auto version of the AK74M receiver (factory Kalashnikov), the barrel is the same barrel as the 74M, so are the bolt, carrier and trunnion.
What Zack had to do was fit the factory AK105 parts kit (that i obtained from the motherland pre-war) to the saiga 5.45 and ensure my annoying specs were met, including doing things the hard way like relocating the gas port from the 74M position to the 105 position and angle drilling the port at the correct size.
So extra attention was present to duplicate what Kalashnikov concern publishes for their blueprints (my sources are from KK directly), and using a Kalashnikov Concern base rifle that used AK74M/AK105 guts that Kalashnikov concern put together (or built).
Therefore, the AK105 isn't put together using any alternative methods that would deviate it from factory specs, but rather it's a factory spec 105 shooting factory steel cased ammo.
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Beautiful.
Is this a stock barrel or a custom one?
Once again, rifle and ammunition are a weapons system. Dial it in and it will perform.
@@old_rocker3642factory Russian izhmash everything
The thing I love about these two is Henry is such an Army Officer in that he cannot stop talking, and Josh is such an NCO trying to keep him on track.
You want me to include a slide deck for these debriefs?
@@9HoleReviews Perun has shown that there are people who love a good slide deck.
"Jumping off what you said..."
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As an AK fanboy I'm extremely happy about this
47-74 union represent👊🏽
I have an Arsenal SGL31 and I know how capable it is. I have some 70 gr. HP WOLF that gets in the 2" or better MOA.
I love the stabilized camera shots because you can clearly make out vapor trails way better than non stabilized.
I kind of liked they old shaky cam because it made me a better spotter.
2 AK's aced the practical test course. Goes to show Practice goes a long way.
"Sure it matters who's got the bigger stick but it hell of a lot matters more who's swinging it" - Shepherd has a point.
Americans slowly realizing Russia is winning with way less costs.
The STG 90 is not an AK
@@felix4820 It literally is an AK variant. Same way Galil is an AK variant.
@@felix4820 The action and manual of arms is very similar to the AK - Long stroke Piston, Rock and lock Magazine and the side charging handle is similar to the AK, so while not exactly an AK variant, it IS similar to the operation. The only thing that's different from one on the other is the safety, but otherwise, they're almost similar in operation.
AKs get a bum rap, an undeserved bum rap. My only gripe with it is that 5.45 isn't domestically supported in the US.
100% agreed 100 series is absolutely peak performance and perfect base for "alpha" builds
I have experimented with AK's cut just in front of the gas block.......I had I 13.5 " 5.56 Saiga that I traded for a Vepr 12 and it was VERY accurate. Henry actually responded to a comment I made back then about it and mentioned a variant in 5.45......gentlemen I have come to believe that this barrel length is the perfect solution for the 5.45/5.56 AK's. The 7.62 x 39 maybe also, but I have not noticed as much of a difference. (although there is some improvement). I personally believe it is reducing that famous barrel whip shown in slow motion camera work. Perhaps this with some affect caused by the right chassis system, and we get some kind of magic. I'm no one special, just a dude that has built a few and tinkered with a lot of AK's.....my opinion is you are onto something with the mid length variants. I have had the same experience myself more than once. I even trimmed a FAL back to 14" once and with my hand loads it was comically accurate. I guess there is a sweet spot with every platform, it's over my head but I to have seen it.....good shooting my friends.
Generally same reason bull barrels are used for many precision guns, stiffer barrel is better, advantage to bull barrels is you can match their length to the powder load, ensuring fullburn which equals maximum velocity (that helps with drop and wind drift) ... So i would assume a longer stiffer barrel may perform even better (or should i say easier to shoot as well)
PWS used to make a mid-length gas piston AR(Think LWRC, not AK). I had Addax tactical get me one since they were friends with PWS guys. It had the double chrome lined FN barrel, and it shoots more accurately than should be possible, and it was pleasant to shoot. Just a magical combo. They went with the AK style piston now, but the other could have been a great dmr
Hello, I am also not aware that the range long barrel is more than short barrel and if according to you short barrel is more than 5.45*39 B length?
Alright AK haters... lets hear it. I'll wait... No one? Didn't think so.
We’re punching air right now. Leave us alone!
Dude they're silent af I've read through the comments AR fans are acting like they've never heard of this channel on forums
I absolutely love the 100 series AKs. Great job guys.
AK-100 series rifle is the Gold standard in AK’s IMO
Chad RAS47 > beta Ak 100 series
Sad ak12 noises
for some reasons ak74m is preferred by some on the battlefoeld
@@hippoaceit’s the ballistics that’s preferred. More point and shoot and less hold under/over and shoot
I can see the point since the 100 series 5.45 is only offered as a shorty.
My PSA 105 is an absolute laser beam with that same type of ammo.
got mine with a Midwest Alpha rail and a Lage side folder stock. toss on the Wolverine and while she's a bit hefty it's a phenomenal rifle
I just picked one up without the furniture for 650 and couldn’t be happier with it. I’m still waiting for the 102 to come back in stock as well. Just a shame kuşa never got around to making the 5.45/5.56 guns, I need that real 100 series for clone nerd reasons and while the PSA 105 is very nice and feels much better all around than the old gf3 I bought years ago, it’s not a legit 100 series
Old fudds: Ak inaccurate
Henry: *clears course no misses*
Among his other talents, Henry has a not-too-bad Russian accent.
DA!
& you are an EXPERT @ this... Because ???
@@soundpainter2590 cause I'm russian. And i confirm that.
True, becaue he's a Russian spy) Тем более он больше похож на бурята, чем на китайца.
@Xmara01 Interesting... thought I was blocked from Anyone seeing anything that I posted on eeau tobe. ( After all, I'm everything they Dont like ) Yet 9 hole won't touch their bad run on their parts kit PSL. Robski, & multiple others had vastly different results ( On 90's New rifles ) Including 3 I've owned. Yes, a decent DMR. A "Sniper " rifle it is not. I was just hoping for a response. That's all.
Beautiful run. When you guys mentioned how not all 105s were made at the same time with the same QC, I was literally thinking that whichever Ivan made this definitely didn't do it on a friday afternoon.
Monday, not friday. Russian men tend to drink friday, saturday and sunday and then they go to work with hangover. That is the reason why the most common day for russian men to die is monday...
@@henrihamalainen300Realy nice of you to notice such things.
But russians drink less than most europeans, perhaps even "sober" americans.
@@ljubomirculibrk4097 russians have trough history been "kept in check" by the people in power with cheap vodka. Maybe city people drink less, but rural, low income people, the true working class, drink a lot. There was a book I read that stated that in one point in the modern history a russian could use a third of his monthly salary on vodka.
@@henrihamalainen300search “Russia alcoholism documentary” here on UA-cam.
@@itsjustmehi Imperial Russia, and then the Soviet Union, literally had state-run vodka producers. They've kept Russia addicted to vodka, literally.
I knew at some point there was going to be a AK that would clear the course cleanly. The only question i had was if it'd be a 5.56 AK or a 5.45 AK. I used to(naively) believe that the AK could never be as if not more accurate than a AR. But over time, i realized the AK platform actually is more accurate when you give it a smaller bullet.(7.62x39 isn't bad and is capable, but the long range ballistics performance compared to the 5.56 and the 5.45 simply outperforms it.)
Honestly before seeing this I thought 5.56 was better at range too even though its ass compared to a full power cartridge but now I don't know. I know 5.45 shreds soft targets way better at closer ranges but I figured that range would be the compromise
Hi Henry and thank you! As an owner of Saiga MK03 I was really pleased to see how skillfully you demonstrated technical possibilities of my rifle. But this setup in your hands is not fully the same as I have. Yes, its the same receiver, stock and even fire control US Palm handle. But my barrel is different, its 341mm long instead of 314 due to civilian law restrictions. And my optics is Holosun 503 and the last worth to mention difference is that my ammunition is 223Rem instead of 5,45 ) But no matter, I also thought before (like many people) that shortened AK is for storm actions and CQB. After good practice experience I realised that I'm desperate enogh to conquer 300m distances. And only after your video I see now what kind of challenge my rifle is worthy.
Thanks again and best regards from Moscow.
Shorter barrel means less barrel to flex. Cutting the barrel and adding a front sight/muzzle device combo was a common thing to increase [snicker] the Mini-14's accuracy [chortle].
Watching Henry ace the course with an Ak *sniffles* It's beautiful!
That rifle is legit beautiful
As Robski says, if you can't hit with an AK, is it the AK or you? Most likely it's you.
As Robski says "seven six two by turd nine"
"Turd nine" you're killing me bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@YourGrandMomy
Absolute killer run, especially considering its a 12.5". Runs like this just make me think back to that one Tavor you guys had on the show that took more than twice the rounds and didn't even make it to the 500 yard target. Also kinda makes you question what really makes a gun accurate.
Yeah, I remember that, Tarvor used to be my primary weapon, and after I saw that video, I wasn't happy, now currently using Taurus 4 rifle
The Tarvor gave out at around 250-300yrds, only good for close quarters
Americans slowly realizing Russia is winning with way less costs
@@ulrikerudel6859 Nah. ARs beat the pants off AKs any day of the week and twice on Saturday and Sunday.
Oh boi!@@DocMitchell69
Hats off to you guys! Thank you for showing the world, that it is not that much about the rifle, but mainly about the one, who is using it. Not just with thisone, but also with all the other rifles you shoot.
None of your guy's vids ever disappoint!
This is one great channel.👍
Congratulations great video. This AK 105 worked amazingly well.
i find the special forces setups with ak 12 rifles pretty interesting. from a few interviews they really start to love the rifle , it has some minor problems left wich most are fixable in field. I am really happy seing the ak 12 getting more and more love. a big plus is also that the ak 12 aftermarket is geting huge.
The AK-100 series uses a slightly thicker receiver than the AKM or the AK-74 based rifles (1.25mm versus 1mm). I wonder if that contributes to increased accuracy you've noted in the AK-100 series rifles.
Regarding the gassing and decreased recoil versus a standard-length AK-74... I think it's fair to note that Zach would have needed to re-drill the gas hole for the shorter barrel, and that Zach's work may be more precise than a factory that turns out hundreds (if not thousands) of rifles a day on an assembly line.
Anyway, I am very impressed with the run and super jealous of the build. You and Josh have also improved a lot as a shooter/spotter team.
Yeah its not just Zach from AKG that is more precise, it's gonna be the drill press he's using to drill these and even the drill bits are definitely going to be higher quality than what you'd find in a 3rd world AK factory. I don't know but he might even be using a bridgeport mill to drill these and they're very controllable with the DRO and such.
The receiver thickness probably doesn't have much to do with the accuracy. It probably has more to do with the fact that this was built by a high end custom AK builder. Honestly, the barrel is mounted to the front trunnion not the receiver directly so I think the receiver probably has very little to do with the accuracy. Maybe though? What do I know.
The AK-74M is part of the 100 series. Presumably it has the thicker receiver too?
Zach might have simply drilled smaller hole, didn't he?
@@skepticalbadger I think there are only two main types of izhmash ak receiver today: one for 5.45 and another for 5.56 and 7.62x39, cause that was the idea behind the ak unification in 90s. So every ak 100 in 5.45 should have the same receiver.
@@trofchik9488 the AK-105 would need a slightly larger gas port than the AK-74M, due to the shorter barrel and reduced dwell time. This rifle started life with a 16" barrel, so Zach would have needed to increase the gas port diameter as part of the conversion process. But perhaps Zach's work is likely much more precise than a factory-built AK-105 from Russia. So it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.
AK bros taking a huge W today.
I think the "AKs are inaccurate" thing is in reference to the mass use of really out AKs with shot out barrels with crappy/old ammo. Modern machining and ammo makes a big diff.
Also just very poorly trained guys!
Facts bro. Anyone who says the Ak is inaccurate doesn’t know how to use it properly.
Never as accurate as a well built ar though.
The quality very much depends on the specific sample, but in general, AKs for the foreign market are of higher quality.
4-5 moa is inaccurate compared to a 1-2 moa AR or bolt gun
We met some marines that said there pistols weren't much good after 25yards we then pointed out that a 70year old guy on u tube regularly hits a metal gong at 80 yards with dozens of different guns (Mr Hickok) this makes me feel that with practice more people could shoot better and I wonder how the average shooter does on this course and how much Henry's skill makes a difference between different models and did he just get a good example.? Love to see a random selection of these range tested out of the box 👍
Well people that eat crayons usually won't get a proper competitive pistol and push it to the limit. It's probably what they heard in boot camp and they're just parroting the info. I can reliably plink large IPSC poppers even at 100 metres with a CZ Shadow 2 with irons. If you learn to not jerk the trigger and compensate for bullet drop you can get alot of range out of a good pistol
Sure, Hicock can hit a large gong at 80 yrds (not always on first shot) in his backyard.... hitting a person (often moving or partially obscured behind cover) with effective shots during combat past 25yrds with a pistol is going to be tough for most anyone..... Im sure they didnt say or imply they couldnt possibly hit a target past 25yrds on a flat range.
When you are shooting with a pistol for fun,yes why not .But in a war situation I wouldn't bet my life with a pistol.first about the lethality of the bullet,with today's vests.good enough in case you are caught with your pants down and you don't have anything else handy.otherwise it's an extra weight.in the war situation where dust ,mud ,rocks ,sand are present,my first preference for an assault rifle it is the AK.battle rifle,SCAR,FN FAL,G3.as for the M4 it is finicky in battle situations because of the dirt factor.if I had to ,I will choose a HK 416.it eliminates all the problems with the AR platform
Very impressive shooting of the AK, still love the AR.
Can you try the Aug-3 on the speed course?
AUG A3 SF inbound sooner than you'd think!
@@9HoleReviewshell yeah!!
VHS2 !!
Would love to see you invite Robski having a shootout and discussion (amiably) with and about a couple of AKs.
And yeah, bring Brandon as well. 🙂
It would be noting but amiable. The “feud” is completely in viewers minds.
@@509Gman Yep. Neither one has anything to prove. 🙂
Don’t forget to invite Sonny Puzikas
Second that, Sonny puzikas would be great!
it was the best assault rifle/carbine service rifle run ever, im shocked about that results
Ok boys - there are collections of tomes to unpack here about AK accuracy in this utterly fantastic video... However, I won't delve into all the accuracy enhancements that can be done to the Kalashnikov, particularly when it's built, but I think the unsung hero is the round and even this type of ammo. The 5.45 is ballistically more efficient than a 5.56 - which they didn't mention but should've when they referenced the AK Niner. This is also Russian ammo in a barrel built by Russians in a factory and barrel designed for that Russian ammo - home run there. This is rather exceptional performance for the ammo - even given all other variables, including Henry's obvious skill and experience. I think if they researched ammo more and shot as many groups as they could (short and long range) this thing could have performed a little bit better, believe it or not. I get respectable groups out of my 5.45 rifles with all kinds of Russian or whatever post Comm Bloc ammo... But if they shot Hornady or some other precision 5.45 (if that even exists...), the accuracy could've been better - which is even more remarkable given the "platform" and it's inherent limitations regarding accuracy.
Check out SSG 82 East German police sniper rifle. It's chembered for 5,45x39. I've read an article in Polish press about that rifle, and there was mentioned, that the owner had to make his own handloads, carefully measuring and weighting each projectile and powder load for each cartridge. But after this ordeal, he printed impresively tight groups.
Hornady used to make a ballistic tipped 5.45 round, but I haven’t seen it in a few years
The first AK kit build I had done was the AK105. Since then I've gotten 3 more different AK's built and bought another 8 factory built AK's. The 105 is still my favorite.
Certified awesome shooter. Wow, what a performance!
I have been following your channel for a long time and I have to say that your professional expertise is very high.
I was born in East Germany and served in the former NVA. I have previously shot an AK47 and therefore know the strengths and weaknesses of this weapon. And what is very important - I still learned how to sight using the rear sight and front sight. Nowadays, shooting is almost exclusively done with diopters or optical sights. That's why I'm impressed by their shooting skills, especially with AK series weapons. You are an absolutely objective weapons expert. Congratulations.
I would expect Finnish RK to be built with tight enough tolerances to reach that accuracy but seeing Russian build do that was more surprising. The base operating systems tend to be more accurate than shooters when built properly no matter if it is long stroke, short stroke or internal piston...
Well, almost all guns are more accurate than the shooter is capable of.. There are guy's that can take a 9mm handgun out to 150+ yards with his Dan Wesson DWX accurately like freaking ex. Seal Chadd of 3 of 7 project's site.. and Hickock .45 hits his gong out there at around 75 yards or so all the time..
Thank you for making this video Henry & Josh. I really enjoy demostration and the discussion. I really appreciate it.
Absolutely phenomenal shooting, Henry!... And fantastic spotting, Josh!
Gotta love adding another clean run to the leaderboard. ❤💪😎
Outstanding.
Every time someone tells me an ak is not accurate I will refer them to this video and walk away.
“Spetsnaz my friend, spetsnaz 👌🏼” 😂😂 good shooting henry! Awesome 105
That's wild. Almost got me thinking about getting an AK.
Being able to get one but not getting one is beyond me! Seriously you are not a gun lover if you’re missing on AKs
@@tullo5564just hope ammo comes back down in price one day. I know 7.62 isn’t the only inflated ammo price, .223 is as well. Just sucks to be a fan right now😢
@@N7mudkipBuy You can get AK in 223, it's just awesome! Feels really nice.
Sick run! These AK runs always make me so excited and this was spectacular!
Great run, spotting, setup, and discussion.
Dude. Yes. We shoot off my back deck of the ranch out to some crazy distances. .22lr out to 400yards on cow patties. Centerfire cartridges accomplish ridiculous feats. .22lr never ceases to amaze me even after shooting them daily since dirt was dust.
Get a nice rimfire rifle with a ffp grid & 40moa mount and run the course for me.
The legendary Kalashnikov kicking the M4 / M16 platform's ass again. Kalashnikovs will never be phased out.
I wouldn't believe this run is possible even on AR with 12 inch barrel. But here we are - short barrel AK does the job. This... thing scares me.
5.45 is just more stable round as it is longer than 5.56.
5.56 shines in longer barrels...
Very accurate carbine❤
We've been telling you guys aks rock, for years.
2nd Ranger Battalion SPEC-4 mafia ready to shame with 9 hole reviews...Cheers AND Merry Christmas
Darn AKs, aceing the Practical Accuracy course! Don't you know you're supposed to be ineffective past 300m!
That reference came from the 7.62x39, Hence why the Russians came out with the 5.45x39 in the first place, was to compete with the 5.56x45 round at longer ranges as the 7.62x39 does start having a lot of bullet drop after 300 yards/M compared to the 5.45 and 5.56, like double the drop, if I remember right.
If you are a great shot you can shoot out to 600 yards with a 7.62x39, but as you see in video footage of people such as Rob at AKOU hit out to 600 yards , but the bullet looks more like it is being launched like a mortar round.. 300 and under though the 7.62x39 has considerable energy though.
That being said I have a 7.62x39 AK, but with the current cost and availability of 7.62x39 and especially the 5.45x39 it defeated the whole reason I bought my AK to begin with, cheap rifle and cheaper ammo, neither are true anymore sadly..
Yeah ,if you are wealthy and a collector I guess it is not such an issue, but for me I am seriously thinking of getting rid of my AK and the 2500rnds of ammo I have just for the reasons I mentioned alone... My AR has widely available parts and ammo and aftermarket support is way beyond that of an AK..
That being said I have a Cheap PSA GF3 that I modified a little, but was pleasantly surprised when I first shot it with the original furniture and just the Iron sights as, first of all the front sight was not canted at all and it was right on at 100 yards shooting 4in clays laying against the 100 yard berm, so I would guess it was more like 120-125 yards out and I am not what you consider a good shot, being I get very little practice in at .50 cents per round and I like to shoot at least 300-500 rounds when I go to an out door range, so it cost a minimum of $150 with just shooting the AK, not including the pistol ammo, The only thing I can go crazy on is my little Ruger 10/22.. 😂 Perhaps one day I will be able to afford training regularly..
from your video,i realised that Ak74,105 are very beautiful and adaptable
Ni maww zawnga😂
The bonus round demonstrated excellent suppressive fire capability at longer range. The misses were still very close to the target.
If he had a longer range scope he probably hit 600 mtrs more accurately and even hit further targets.
This is impressive stuff, short barrel 545 with surplus corrosive ammo is insane!
I need an AK sooo bad in my life... and you got it in the right caliber ❤🙏🏻
Year 2 of waiting for AK104 alpha build practical accuracy! Thankful for the 105 tho:)
This has more to do with Henry being an absolute monster behind the trigger than how good a specific platform is .. this man can really shoot .. especially with irons 😳
I'm thankful that he's a good shooter, because that minimizes him from the equation of a gun's performance
Americans slowly realizing Russia is winning with way less costs
@@ulrikerudel6859 rusbot actually believes the 1990s $200 AKs were factory pricing lolol.
@@ulrikerudel6859nah Americans just have a bad habit of buying stupidly expensive stuff and the market has adapted accordingly
@@ulrikerudel6859no lol
The writing on the mag was noted and appreciated. Nice touch.
The shorter barrel might actually be more mechanically accurate than a longer one. The shorter barrel will be more rigid, and that may make the difference
It’s the 5.45 round which gives it the performance out of that shorter barrel, plus he is using a scope which helps with accuracy greatly.
Seeing that 105 takes me back to a time in my life that was much more interesting then my current day to day.
Edit: that said, the ones we used had folding stocks not fixed stocks.
And no one says "da da da" one would say "da kanishno".
That 105 Henry was doing the course with, is the sidefolder. There's a latch visible at back end of the reciever.
Contracting is better than civilian life but nothing ever comes close to "those" days.
Great video for many reasons - thanks guys! And I love the exact attention to detail for the build (I actually read the whole video description). I would really like to use an unmolested Saiga 5.45 build and go the 105 route... So sexy and as accurate as you can get.
Magnified EOTechs are lookin really good after this video 😮
Definitely unexpected but a pleasant surprise. Spotting and shooting in this episode was something else.
It feels like 9-Hole can start looking back at the old runs and do justice for some of the rifles. ;)
Bonus round definitely should be a factor for clean runs now on.
I love this channel!
Regards from Sweden
That was astonishing! To be a 12.5 with a magnified eotech, definitely not what I was expecting! 🤯
People like to dump on the ak platform it has been a very effective weapon system for a long time with a good not great shooter behind it is more than capable of reaching out to 500 meters thanks for providing evidence of it keep up the wonderful videos
Please consider taking two common often compared opposites like the AR and AK, And do something like an average. Where you take each, say 5-10 Times to the range on different days, at the end of which you average their score and publish the results!
There was a rumor that a lot of AK-105 were produced in Russia to fulfill Venezuela's military contract. And traditionally, foreign military contracts have the best quality-control in Russia. But this exact contract was canceled what ended up in converting a lot of ready military rifles into civil variants and selling them wherever it's possible. Lore really fits your results.
That is the funniest made up story I heard in a while.
This is bullshit, because the opposite is the truth
According to the weapons legislation of the Russian Federation, trace formation on civilian and military weapons should be different. Therefore, it is very doubtful that the barrel from a military AK would end up on a civilian Saiga.
I also note that users of civilian Saiga in Russia have shot at targets at 500 meters or more more than once. There are many videos on UA-cam on this topic.
@@Dima-cx7gv Yep, they just add a special pin to the barrel what makes traces on the bullet different(and could potentially ruin accuracy). Simple civillian Saiga in Russia usually is a pretty crappy rifle. It's a common thing for domestic products. I've heard a lot of complaints about Zastava in Serbia, while abroad they considered decent AK-based rifles.
FLAWLESS VICTORY!
I love how excited Josh was
I hear you say the words "this is not an ideal precision rifle set up" but yet here we are with what looks like to be an ideal precision rifle set up. 😅
I strongly recommend the use of side safety lever between series of shots. AK-shooters have it in their DNA. Apart from it - excellent run !
The EoTech 3-4 just became the Most Popular LOL
As a russian I appreciate your name written on the mag in russian!
That thing shot way better than the psl!
Nice that you feature there forgotten weapons
Daaa-aaa-aaa! Blyat! Tovarisch, you nailed it! btw was that real AK 105 or its civilian Saiga 033 version? Красавчики!
Made at the Ishvesk.
@@johndaugherty4127 both AK and Saiga are made in Izhevsk by Kalashnikov.
He says in the video that it was a Saiga 545.
@@skepticalbadger really? thank you sir! i guess i skiped that part. I mentioned the rifle had a "АВ" and "ОД" inscripted on the reciever. So i thought that was actual AK. For the russian civilian market Kalashnikov produces Saigas with only S (safe) and ОД (semi) mode only. so the selector doesn't have an additional choice.
@@skepticalbadger I guess my point is that they are basically the same.
I don't think the AK platform will ever recover from its general level of misconception in the U.S. mainly driven by the terrible kit-builds put out by Century, IO Inc., etc. It's more or less an ignored platform and sadly will now remain as such with the steady increase in cost of the ammo, particularly 5.45x39. The days of a nice $500 dollar SGL-31 Saiga fed by cheap 5.45x39 is gone...long gone.
Good looking gun I’m excited to get my 74’s from Meridian
Beautiful platform man. You do it Justice Henry…
Wow, the gun is beautiful and full of options, it is really well equipped and beautiful ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
5.45 is kinda spooky man
Impressive! Your high cheek weld baffles me...
Such a great run! Well done!
love love LOVE the heater! ONE AWESOME PIPE ya got there
When are we getting URGI practical accuracy?
Well this made me reconsider turning my 223 saiga into a 102 instead of a 101. Especially since i just got my first suppressor and realized how heavy it gets out front with light/ laser/ suppressor.
You have really cool mug Henry 😁 Greatings from Poland!
Very nice analysis! 2 questions:
1. How would the accuracy of the AK-105 be under 400m if you held the handguard hard (since it doesn't have a free floating barrel)?
2. How would the accuracy, handling, etc be on an AK-104 be compared to this and other rifles?
You should do a same day PA & Speedway with…
Best AK option
Best AR option
Sig 550
Bren MKII (.303) 😉
Excellent tir Bravo
Okay so with Henry being a high level shooter, this proves a modern AK build with a modern optic combo CAN 1v1 a modern AR build. The myth is busted.
Call me unpatriotic but I’ve felt for a while the 5.45 is superior to 5.56 Especially in short barrels
they ARE indeed ) penetration and BC of 545 is superior to 556
@@yummyKFCstuff soft target wound channel is also far nastier Banana ballistics did a shoot out between them and the 5.45 not only tumbled far more but it shed the friggen copper jacket and it shot off into a separate wound channel.
I rather be shot by 5.56 up close any day
5.45x39 has about 10-30% less kinetic energy than 5.56 NATO. FYI
@@moonman6359 yes but it tumbles and fragments faster after impact (7n6)
5.56 NATO and green tips have better armor penetration for that reason
Well the 5.45 was designed after the 5.56 to counter it, and they dumped the heavier 7.62x39 so That would make some sense, better range and they can carry twice the ammo for given weight of each round.. I know I would rather have a more affective round and be able to carry twice as much of it also given the weight of a a 7.62x39 being 123-124 grains compared to a 55-60gr projectile that has more range, more effective and less than half the weight..
Cleared with AK sbr with magnified Eotech and Wolf ammo ... the ammo is what I thought would hold you back .
14:15 that's one way to give your plants some nitrate❤
Oh yussss... That 105 Tarkovski magik
Both Wolf and Tula ammo have preformed well for me in a bunch of ARs. I have gotten better groups at 100 yards with this ammo than some of the expensive stuff
Not being an AK fan, this AK105 perfect run is "eye-opening" and educational
What mount and riser combo is that? I’m attempting to line up an ACSS Pegasus with my EXPS2 and precise info on centerline heights is difficult to find for many magnifier mounts. Lower 1/3rd is all over the place between manufacturers. HELP!
now get yourself hands on ak 200 and current gen ak 12 and do a spetsnaz video on them. the ak 12 is really starting to get popular under sf guys after some modifications , and the new one from what i heard they are easpacially excited