The Weirdest Weapons of the Ukraine Conflict
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2023
- The Ukraine Conflict has led to a massive proliferation of weapons. Unproven systems that up to this point hadn’t been tested are now being vetted to the highest degree. In today’s video we look at the weirdest and most common firearms currentlymin corculation.
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The Mosin-Nagant trying to retire challenge (Impossible)
Same with the m1911
NEVER!!!😈
Don’t forget the Maxim machine gun 😂
MP40💀💀💀
My ass watching the martian separatists dome a space x coprorate enforcer with a mosin nagant made in 1899.
The fact that ww2 weapons are still being used in this war is both scary and ironic.
Even ww1 weapons like the maxim gun which is absolutely insane. That’s a little over 100 years still being used.
The fact trench warfare is still a thing too is bonkers in my mind
I suppose it’s simply the case that anything that can throw a bullet really fast will have to do!
7.62x54r and 8mm are both just as deadly as they were in ww2.
It is also a testament to their ruggedness.
I've been serving in the French military for 18 years and did many missions in Africa and Afghanistan, I can tell you the FN FNC and the FN FAL are VERY COMMON in Africa. I don't know why but I never encountered rebels with French FAMAS or US M16/M4, but they nearly all used either some sort of AK variant or a FN Belgian assault rifle FAL or FNC... For a small country, Belgium managed to sell their excellent firearms worldwide !
I was in the Australian military from 1985-1988 and I loved my SLR, as you'll no doubt know, the commonwealth version of the FN FAL but semi-auto only in most models. It was bloody heavy but it was a beautiful thing. We'd argue about who'd get to carry the squad M-16 on exercises, because it was so much lighter but, and as history has proven wrong, we all assumed the heavier bullet had more punch. Ok, it does have more punch - the 7.62 would go straight through the sides of our M113s, where the .556 would bounce, but as we all now know, most contact ranges are in the low hundreds of metres and you can carry more .556 for the same weight, not even including the weight of the rifle. Anyway. Like most people of my generation and background, the FN FAL holds a special place in my heart. And I remained the company champion at stripping and reassembling the SLR blindfolded for the entire time I was serving. Possibly being a guitarist gave me dexterity on both hands that some didn't have :D My time was over before the Aussteyr became a thing.We didn't even have helmets.
Oh, and Vive la France! Love the place and the people. Before brexshit, I was planning on retiring to the Bearn. But after the Poms went and shat the bed, we decided we'd go back to Oz instead. We could possibly still retire to France but it's much much more difficult and as we've had a life in the UK for 25 years, I wouldn't want to lose that to get French citizenship. Assuming we could. We were even taking lessons in Francais before 2016, but stopped when it looked like we wouldn't be moving. I've had too much coffee this morning, I think.
dont' surprise me what uve found(with some expcetion for the fnc i supposed was less common...)fn fal is well know spreaded worlwide almost the ak, id add paris foreing policy something had done in the past for the famas,- being me italian withouth criticism i ve heard about some horn of africa nation that had italians bm 59, & ar 70 -.ive seen tv footage with shown some m 14 (somalia..)but in centrall africa i'd bet fal and ak are the masters of battlecamps...
Its bcs they are reliable. We don’t make unreliable guns.
The FN FAL is the largest commercial succes we ever had when talking firearms. The FNC is often considered archaic looking and outdated.but it is an accurate and very reliable rifle, the perfect lovechild between the AK and M16 systems.
@@claudyfocan731 sinderely the world largest amount of specimen done is the ak 47 akm 74etc ,follows fn fal is the biggest western success-i dont see how fnc could be considered archaic,(it was also in "heath" the movie with de niro and al pacino),is quite more modern as cartridge and looking than the l1a1/fn fal altough this one is legenday
The FAL is the western analog of the AK for a reason. It's ubiquitous and everywhere
In the Yugoslav war the Bosnian military basically had nothing but my dad got an old PKM with long range optics and he swears on his life that this gun was better than anything else he could have gotten. He could beat some snipers in accuracy at several hundred meters. He would still tell me stories of shooting off caps off of chimneys while his marksman buddies were in awe of the gun's accuracy.
Tzv Ceca ili Sijač smrti definitivno bolje od m53 svi kažu da ima dosta zastoja a na 84 si mogao otegnuti redenik koliko hoćeš i neće zakočiti
I like Russia Z O V
@@peroceketic3451 prićaj nekom ko nije radio na M53... održavanje i to..
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To me the weirdest weapon of the Ukraine war has been weaponized social media.
you ain’t wrong
I’m still upset our tax dollars pay for billions in equipment we can’t buy without special taxes, permits, wait times (if you can even obtain the items) yet they hand them out to anyone willing to take them overseas….
@cody
Literally supplying the war that's an example of why we also need them.
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My grandfather was with the 7th Infantry, 73rd Heavy Tanks during the Korean War. They called the ppsh41 “the burp gun,” and it would turn guys into “Swiss cheese.” He never said anything else about that weapon, but the way he talked about it left me with the impression that it was universally hated.
Hated to face but loved when used. A lot of Nazi and American soldiers liked to use it once they could get their hands on one.
That Glock 18 type ROF really sucks downrange.
the Russian climate is generally harmful to the British
@@wolfheardt4169 And the russians loved to get their hands on MP-40's. It's a classic case of "the grass is always greener in the neighbor's yard"
Koreans used to call ppsh-41 as 'ddabal chong(따발총)', which means it can shoot lots of rounds. The word 'ddabal chong' has now become an common pronoun which stands for every full auto firearms. It was definitely an impressive firearm for all soldiers and civilians in Korea at the time...
STG coming like
“I’ve…returned”
And the reason The PPSH is so controllable is just the science behind how they made the muzzle break
It’s 3 holes there isn’t one on the bottom so all the gas just goes out the top so when dealing with a gun firing at the rate of “oh dear lord I’m already out of ammo” instead of it rising from recoil it dips down keeping you on target which takes accuracy by volume to a new level
This is quite possibly the most interesting video of yours I've ever seen, hearing about all of the behind the scenes of the conflict is extremely interesting
Belgium - sends 5k FNCs - gets mentioned.
Poland - sends 10k MSBS Grot A2 and a lot of A0 and A1 - no mention.
Sad polish noises.
unfortunately no examples that I know of currently in the USA
@@GarandThumb 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think arms of America will be importing some in the future, they already sell the magazines and import for the polish manufacturers.
@@GarandThumbcome to Poland!
@@GarandThumb isn't the grot just a polish acr?
I bought a PPSH41 awhile ago from a militiaman and he showed me some videos and pictures of him using it during night raids on isis positions in Iraq, truly a terrifying weapon when it comes to CQB
it can even be more scary if u used a supressor , a gru foregrip and a dual 30rds mag( up n down taped), leave the drum behind, pain in the ass to reload for a 2 sec magdump aint worth it
Hey I know you! I've seen a lot of your Reddit posts, nice seeing you here and nice PPSH.
@@TheCrimsonZ_Hunter hahahaha never thought that one day someone would reply to my comment on UA-cam and say hey I know you! Thanks mate, it’s nice seeing you here
@@sargera1 I totally agree, I only got the drum mag for the aesthetic but it’s really not practical in active combat
@Ethan Hunt mag fiil time is unimportant before combat starts but drums have other problems like usually poorer reliability
Great video, very informative! I have watched way more combat videos of the conflict than I want to admit, but like you said, its something everyone should learn about and understand. War sucks, I hate it but I would rather understand it than not.
dude the format of this image and the lense aperture is insane ... your photo director is so great.
Former Swedish soldier here, the Ak5 series are basically license produced FN FNCs. Can't say a lot of good things about the Ak5C either. It's heavy, it's really sensitive to cold (ironic for a weapon used by the Swedish military) and the plastic magazines used for it didn't fit our standard MOLLE pouches. Though I guess the latter isn't really the weapons' fault.
What if we change the world and hire people who see the man in the field as themselves?
Was in Stockholm in January and got to see the Changing of the Guard ceremony. All that M90 camo and the AK5’s… 😮💨😮💨😮💨 so hot
Stop with the “As a,” Former here,” it’s getting really annoying seeing these comments tbh.
Could you use aftermarket mag pouches or you were forced to use those mag pouches where the mags doesn't fit?
@@poster5887 stop with the "stop with the comments" here. This comment format is older than you. It's tried and true. It's never going away. As a youtube commenter, I should know
The STG 44 even made a big appearance in the beginning of the Syrian Civil War.
They are also prevalent in West Africa too.
And Libya, they had a ton of them.
@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it They still have friggin stenguns in West Africa. And Lee Metfords.
@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it considering that the allies promised to not export the seized german weapons to their colonies after ww2, im marveling at the frequency of their use in former allied colonies
@@CAARLcseditsandmore the Soviets exported them to Syria. Not a colony of theirs, didn't count
Your content creation is so beautiful, these videos are so informative and put together so well, so much content in one video! The dramatic drill edits, music, audio and video quality are fantastic. All of that on top of the little history lessons on calibers and firearms.
familar pfp, i think its from some 8bit rpg
So much love for the PPSh for that insane rate of fire and that STG44's beautiful mechanical sound as it cycles. I'd give anything for either of those.
stg44 : hello there , we meet again
ppsh41 : yo.... hello old pal , still remember me on july 1944
Fun fact: one of the Ukrainian soldiers was wearing the waffen SS Russian division patch
@@anglishbookcraft1516 Reality check: Russian troll-nazi calls Ukrainian fighters a "nazi"
sad, but still funny that this time they are on the same side - used by the ukrainian national guard (territorial forces, whatever)
@@putinhuylo5404 man he's not trolling you. just look at this patch on this vest at 10:54. this is the emblem of R.O.A (Russian liberation army) which fought on the hitler's side and consisted of russian collaborators
@@ju5ts0l1dd4 He doesn't troll you either, his job on UA-cam is to be a kremlin troll... I answer him, according to his kremlin duties...🤣🤣🤣
Regarding the AK-12, there are now newer variants of it, called the AK-12SP and AK-12SPK, mostly in use by special forces for now, they have no 2 round burst and the new mlok handguards are now made of aluminium. Basically they went back to zenico-lite setups after realizing the plastic handguards weren't the greatest.
There is also the AK12M1
And they utilize magpul folding stocks lul
Honestly, I really like the newest version of the ak12, and I really didn't care for the older version. The oldschool prototype was the most aesthetic though.
@@srddnrsmn7320 problem for Russia is that now they can't mass produce it because of all the sanctions
Does the dust cover hold zero this time?
@@Penigale I wouldn't say that. They're still producing, just not exporting a lot of those resources. They can still get minerals and polymers regardless of western sanctions.
Crazy to see WW2 weapons to be used again together with the new variations . It’s like grandpa and grandson shooting together . Nice video
Loved this vid. First time I’ve seen your channel. Very laid back, casual, entertaining, and educational. I’m a vet from Texas but I learned a lot from this. Air traffic controllers in the Navy don’t shoot a lot of guns but we did have basic training and got to shoot several firearm systems on the range.
Ветеран чего? Ветеран войны там, где тебя не звали? навязывал свою лживую демократию?
The irony is if they could actually sell those guns in the US they could buy a lot more modern weapons lol
>selling guns in the US
Sir, do you not care about the safety of software engineers in coastal cities?
@@PunchySonichu 😂. No.
@@PunchySonichu software engineering isnt Real engineering change my mind
I'm no expert so I might be wrong here but I think it would be more expensive to ship them over there and ship us rifles back as well than to just manufacture them at home. Ak's are much easier to manufacture than Ar's.
@@tomt4588 how so? It’s not exactly a humanities or a science
The fact that he can just stand there and hit shots at 220 meters irons just causally is impressive
The beauty of editing
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ People don’t like us Christians bc people like you spam quotes from the Bible
@@Josh-jw3go he served in the military how’s that editing?
@@t-1114 Edits out a majority of the misses
He was Special Warfare JTAC in the Airforce, TACP operator. I would assume he is a very capable marksman.
It might be an overlooked detail, but the audio on this video is out of this world. Mike knocked it out of the park.
Is this Micah’s alt account
Never thought that the PPSH would still be used today. Very cool content!
I loved seeing the first real assault rifle, the stg 44, sending automatic fire downrange and it still looks contemporary after 79 years.
Why is it first assault rifle, is it because it is not good in defense? BTW Fedorov's AF-1916 was a first in that class of weapon that calls actually an "Avtomat", since WWI.
@@RussianThunderrr An auto rifle is not an assault rifle. Otherwise we'd have to say the Italian Cei-Rigotti predates the Fedorov and we'd have to call the BAR an assault rifle, which it is not. You also have the fact that the Fedorov was primarily designed as a semi-auto single shot weapon, because it couldn't handle the heat generation of full auto. The weapon has more in common with an FN FAL than it does an STG-44.
@@Edax_Royeaux wrote: "An auto rifle is not an assault rifle."
-- Agreed 100% that auto rifles such as Soviet AVS-1938, US of A M-14 and Belgium FN FAL are all full size rifle, and not "carbine"(like AF-1916 and STG-44) designed to use full size/power rifle cartridge, with a possibility of not so accurate/controllable fully automatic fire of no more then 3 rounds burst(there after continuing firing auto burst is shutting up the sky). Neither an "Avtomat" or an "assault rifle"!
@@Edax_Royeaux wrote: "You also have the fact that the Fedorov was primarily designed as a semi-auto single shot weapon, because it couldn't handle the heat generation of full auto. The weapon has more in common with an FN FAL than it does an STG-44."
-- Do I? I'm sure I'm NOT, since I know history of this weapon making and also, I can find on the website of "Forgotten Weapon" manual for AF-1916 written in 1923, where its explains what an "avtomat" is, and its primary mode of fire in full automatic mode, but not in the same long fashion like a heavy MG, because it's a carbine, so sparing full auto bursts are highly advised to preserve ammo, weapon longevity and weapon overheating(but it is not forbidding to empty full magazine on full auto mode). And also unlike BAR which is LMG(Light Machine Gun or Russ. Ручной Пулемёт(Hand-Held Machine-Gun)) like Lewis LMG, Degteriev's-1928 or Kalashnikov's RPK(that featured in this video) which is Squat fire support weapon, and not an "Every Squat member" personal weapon, like AF-1916 or STG-44 or AK-47. In case you wondering what "A" means in Russian abbreviation of Soviet weapons, yet it does not exist in a SMG(Sub Machine Gun) class weapons, because PPSh-41 or PPD-40 or PPS-43 are not classified as an "Avtomat" because it uses "pistol" round, hence "Пистолет-Пулимёт" similar to German MP(MaschinenPistole). So that is where you got this wrong.
@@RussianThunderrr I read it was recommended that the weapon be fired in semi-auto primarily.
This was absolutely one of my favorite video thanks guys😂❤
It feels surreal to see two professional armies in our lifetime fight each other, back then, it was mostly Irregular forces vs regular forces, now they’re more recognized, more organized, and better armed than before.
Edit: wtf happened in the replies? It's like Bakhmut in there.
You think that Ukraine has a professional army?
@@johntobias3376 I mean they were trained by NATO even before the war started. Because instead of finding a peaceful resolution to the Donbass conflict both Ukrainian govt and NATO wanted a war with Russia.
@@johntobias3376250.000 people before the invasion
@@johntobias3376 I mean the fighting in the North of Ukraine and Kharkiv operation shows it has.
@@johntobias3376Do I think that Ukraine has a professional army? Yes
Do I think Russia has a professional army? No
Personally, I think the vehicles being used in Ukraine are weirder than the small arms. You’ve got 122mm rocket tubes from BM-21 Grads attached to civilian trucks, a collapsible communications tower on a UTE, commercial drones of all sorts performing roles ranging from artillery spotting to guided munitions, and all manner of modifications on both sides to MT-LB artillery tractors. All of these are (to me at least) far more interesting than “ha ha, old gun being used in 2023.”
Exactly. This is just a shameless likewhore video, would be far more interesting to hear about the actual weird shit being used in this war. Hell they don't even call it a war on this channel.
If you find a video on that topic, please tell us! I'm already intrigued!
@@TheZampa This video is a good beginning ua-cam.com/video/dgnb8g2U8pE/v-deo.html but I do recommend you dig deeper yourself.
I hear ya but hahaha look that old gun in 2023!
The fact that those old guns are still used shows how well they're made.
One funny thing about the AK situation in Ukraine is that under Ukrainian law, an AK-74 is a military weapon and illegal for civilians to own, but an AK-47 is not, so those 7.62 AKs popping up in photos are probably at least in part personally-owned weapons.
You're completely fucking wrong. The caliber doesn't matter. Just like in Russia, civilians are permitted to own non-fully automatic rifles and shotguns.
Both calibers are illigal for civilians if it`s full auto. But the frightened government distributed weapons to everyone (mostly criminals). And those nights in Kyiv were very scary, now everything has improved, although they could not take away the weapons from the criminals
Do you often make up stories?
@@rizhikoviktor I smell bullshit on this one
😂 Ви навіть поняття не маєте про що пишете,🫣.
Nice thing about the Krink is that it’s piston driven as well, super easy to clean and hella reliable
We kept finding STG44s in Iraq. I'd love to know what happened to those, no doubt they're hanging on some senior officer's walls somewhere... Another superb vid, Mr. Thumb!!
Shouldve taken a few back to the US :(
@Rando Numba 9 I was with British forces mate, but I like the way you think!! 🤙🏻
There were a lot of them reproduced after WW2, many of those repros found there way to Africa.
Sadly, most were destroyed. 😭
@20 Acre Life I'm in Northern Ireland here bro. Our laws don't suck balls like the English ones do!!! 😉🤙🏻
This needs a part 2, they are still using maxim guns, mosins, f2000s, all sorts. But awesome video, definitely makes me admire all these weapon systems more, especially the ww2 weapons still competing
dude the maxim gun is such a timeless platform. Over 150 years old and still being used *effectively*, especially against drones. Like it's just so crazy to me that the world's first machine gun is being used to hunt down modern weapon systems such as drones.
@@zippyparakeet1074 Accuracy by fire works doesn't matter if its a 150 years old. Of course it's still impressive nonetheless.
@@zippyparakeet1074 GAZ-AAA (4M); 4 Maxim's machine guns linked together and mounted on the back of a truck. Used to shoot down planes. Need I say more?
@@zippyparakeet1074137, not 150 years.
As a Ukrainian who serves in the territorial defense, I saw one of my comrades come with a Browning M1918 machine gun. Among the regular troops, such outdated weapons are not officially used, this is the initiative of some military personnel.
Chapters/timestamps:
00:00 Intro + Sponsor
03:07 AK-74 (Ukraine)
04:12 AK-74M (Russia)
05:28 AK-12 (Russia)
07:40 Overview of the main 3 rifles in the conflict
08:02 AK-104 (both sides) and AK-105
09:54 "Krinkov" AKS-74U
10:17 RPK
11:08 PKM (Russia)
12:28 Tiger / SVD
13:15 NATO Weapons
13:28 StG 44 (Ukraine)
14:22 PPSh-41 "the garbage rod"
16:53 CZ BREN 2 (Ukraine)
18:16 Battle rifles
18:30 FN SCAR-H (Ukraine)
19:49 M4
20:14 FN FNC
22:03 The rest of the video
I love how he knew, and shown why one shot with PPSH is a joke, the weapon is a bullet hose and trigger just gets out of the way of it working , it is very hard to do one shot with it
Honorable mention to the MG-3 & the mp-40. Both have been seen on the battlefield in Ukraine as well.
Ukraine just loves german stuff from a certain era.
The mg-3 actually showed up at 14:44 while they were taking about the ppsh
They use the "Maxim" also. The great grand-daddy of all automatic weapons.
оружие фашистов в руках фашистов )) всё на своих местах , обожаю как сша убивает украинцев своими руками
also, some Polish MSBS Grot rifles have been sent there.
Brandon Hererra looks and sounds a lot different in this episode of "weird weapons being used in Ukraine"
I thought Ian had gotten some kind of weird ass makeover
It’s crazy that Ak guy was not in this video
far less homoerotic vibe too
@@T0tenkampf As you seek, so you shall find.
Going full MilSim larp gear does that apparently.
“You missed every single shot”
“That’s not possible I was aiming right at it”😂😂😂
You have to lay your hands on the MSBS Grot in 5.56 NATO (it already has a 7.62x39 variant and 7.62x51 NATO is also in the making). MSBS stands for Modular Firearm System and Grot means the Spearhead. It is the newest service rifle in Poland and it also has been shipped in large numbers to the Ukraine. How to get it? I dunno, ask Ian. He also tested a bullpup conversion of it.
you mean the Promet
Let's all take a moment to appreciate just how much money, time, and resources it took to gather all these firearms for one video in the Era of import bans.
Facts
Probably got brandon to supply a couple
@@julianthursky-moore2438 was 'bouta, probably Brandon over there off camera lol
Pay, pay, pay to kill, kill, kill. I’m sure these leaders pocket some money. Let’s call it cooking the books.
@Julian Thursky-Moore When Flannel Daddy was talking about how hard it was to get an AK-12, all I was thinking is "Brandon Herrera has one...and you know him."
Portuguese Army just recently moved away from the G3 (7,62) to the SCAR! About 3/4 years they started fielding the SCAR to the forces that are deployed in NATO or UN missions. Army basic training is still done with the G3 and after basic training you get to learn to use the SCAR. Portugal has a lot of G3 (and I mean a lot), our Marines still use the G3 with the Spear upgrade kit, but our Marines are just plain crazy because the say nothing kills like a 7,62!
Well the killing power of the 7.62 NATO is true.
But we Marines know that nothing kills Marines like the A-10. With the notable exception of the Marine in March of 2003 that had part of his ass shot off by a 30MM round from an A-10. He’s the odd man out.
We still love A-10’s. But don’t trust them until after the first gun run.
I'm a big fan of 7.62 x 51, that's why I have a Tavor 7 as one of my main battle rifles.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 The Tavor 7 is the best semi-auto .308 I've ever fired.
Great info! I'm a fellow Portuguese, born in the USA.
Laughs in 30-06
LOL @ Micah somehow not knowing that the PPSH-41 he loves so much actually has a semi auto setting.
What a cool ass video! I like how you showed off several diferent guns and shot a bunch of them. Doesn't get much cooler than that!
Guys, the mg3 was left out and that is an amazing weapon. Hope you can do a video about that legendary machine gun in the future
yes
Also the Malyuk. Was really looking forward to hearing more about it!
I think there was only like 3 or 4 of them imported into the US and they cost a fortune.
@@poeticalvision you probably mean the mg42? mg3 is different and widely used in nato states
@@poeticalvision they aren't m82a2, besides there are kits to make the mg42 fire the 7.62 nato. You should doble check your data, they are uncommon, but not to that degree. Lastly, Brandon Herrera has one if my memory serves
The SCAR is also a Belgian rifle! I commented on how heavy it was and the soldiers told me yeah just be happy you don't have to carry the previous guns (FAL and FNC) as they have a lot more metal in them
The FAL is stupid light for what it is lol.
But the heaviness Of the FNC makes it super EZ to keep sighted in on target and put those rounds down range accurately.
Lots of FALs being used too
Carried a FAL during a training exercise all day and it sure as fuck isn't as fun to carry as an M4 not to mention the weight difference in carrying a shitload of magazines
The new US service rifle is like several pounds heavier and worse in pretty much every way to the SCAR... pretty the soldiers will love carrying it, lol.
The production level of your videos has always been good but it's out of this world for a gun channel now days. LOVE IT
Very informative video.
Gotta ask, what jacket are you wearing?
I think it's interesting how we switched to the new sig spear as a response to the engagements in Afghanistan, and worried it may not be applicable to a near peer conflict. With the resurgence of battle rifles in Ukraine it may go to show that the sig spear was actually the right move
Not really the smaller caliber rifles are doing well. Most engagements are at close ranges. I would not want a battle rifle in a trench or urban fight. Plus you can carry double the combat load
plates that stop .308 are so prevalent nowadays it's a no-brainer to make sure there isn't an over-reliance on strictly 5.56 anymore
I agree I would rather have a shorter rifle than a more powerful rifle that’s longer and those smaller rounds still kick a punch I mean it’s still a bullet
@@flynnbean2595 I think the difference between killing and wounding is pretty huge. Espescially in a modern conflict with modern medicine.
And Russia isn’t using ceramic plates half the time anyways due to logistical problems
I followed a few of the volunteer forces early on that were given FNCs and a lot of them hated them and had reliability issues. They were pleased with the Bren 2 as a replacement.
The Bren 2 is outstanding.. The FNCs in use were prob 40 years old lol
The Bren 2 is a great rifle.
I think I prefer the Galil Ace, but the Bren 2 is totally acceptable.
I haven't been shooting in months...5:15 has me fiending for the range, that was so clean
You should probably include an MSBS/Grot in the next part (if you're planning to do one), Ukraine received thousands of those as military help.
He cant include guns he dont have access too..
Where do you insist he get it from? They're not importing them into the US last I checked.
@@1DEADBEEF1 They are easily available commercialy in Poland, you just have to import one to US which isnt cheap
@@bohen6702 it’s not even the cost, it would have to be sporterized to only accept single stack mags, a barrel with no threads, and a thumbhole stock in order to be imported. Then they would have to change out parts in the US because there can only be 10 foreign parts on the rifle for it to be legal. It’s pretty much impossible for him to get his hands on currently
@BoheN bro full auto guns and illegal in united states unless made prior to 1986.... even semi auto guns that are moderatly easy to convert to full auto are illegal- anything open bolt is illegal...
FNCs performed terribly in Moschun 5-12 march that I was there. Westerners were issued these rifles and they had feeding issues as well as them getting filled with sand and just failing at every turn.
Bren 2 is an absolute gem of a rifle. Been running it for almost a year. It's just a better Scar.
appreciate the input!
@@GarandThumb holy shit Senpai noticed me
Wasn't familiar with the Bren 2, but it reminds me of a Galil Ace 2
That's the main reason that the Nicaraguan National Guard chose the Galil over the FNC and FAL
@@giloro85 it's always the ones you don't expect to fail that do. Scar16 that I had in Severodonetsk bent. Barrel literally bent. For the price of that rifle, it certainly doesn't live up to the expectation.
Micah's semi auto accuracy and shot time has improved so much in the last couple of years! Good job dude!
A little True Detective "Time is a flat circle" philosophy thrown in.
it's still wild to me that there are people using both the Mosin Nagant and Maxim gun in this war. I know you didn't go over either since they're probably not very popular, but it's crazy that they're even being used at all.
It's mostly security detail checking traffic. I'd prefer to be struck by 9x19 than be asploded by a 54R tumbling from a debored mosin. Deer shot close from a corroded mosin show "explosive" terminal effect. Like a fallout 2 critical animation.
What about a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?
12 gauge autoloader
Da Ooozie Nein Millimeda
Hey just what you see pal
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Oww be Bach
Only bad thing about the 7.62x25 Tokarev round used in PPsh41 is that no one make a modern pistol using this round. Its a real shame too as it is a peppy little round I believe more shooters would enjoy if there was a modern pistol for it instead of a 70year old CZ52 or even older TT33.
you just never used the Tula tokarev (TT). too powerful cartridge. the gun can withstand no more than 800 shots, after that it breaks. This cartridge is not suitable for semi-automatic pistols.
@@nickspistolsfl9736 Unfortunately I do not have a TT33 in my collection. I do have a CZ52 that takes 7.62x25 Tokarev round. The Czech's designed it to take a hot load and it handles 7.62x25 without any issues. I have shot several hundred rounds through it, both surplus and new rounds from Prvi Partisan, Fiocchi and Sellier-Belliot. Only fault I have with the CZ52 is it holds only 7 + 1 rounds.
@@nickspistolsfl9736 I should of added that the 7.62x25 ballistically is similar to .357 Sig which used to be my EDC round in my Sig P226.
@@actionjackson1stIDF as a cartridge for a 7.62x25 pistol, it does not make sense due to excess power and too high penetration. Shoot the enemy and someone else behind the wall.
Etoko caliber pistols were forcibly imposed on the Czech industry after the capture of the Czech Republic by Soviet troops. But after the Second World War, the TT and SZ were withdrawn from service and replaced by the 9x18 Makarov pistol.
And it must be borne in mind that Czech weapons have always surpassed Soviet ones in terms of workmanship
@@actionjackson1stIDF this is a matter of taste and love for historical weapons. I really love the m1 carbine and the 30 carbine cartridge, but this does not mean that you should regret the departure of these weapons from the scene. Other gunpowder, other materials, other bullets and other tasks for weapons.
I really like the thumbnail, the way he holds both PPSh-41 and STG-44
First vid ive seen from you guys and it was dope! Seems like yall would be some cool friends
It’s been going on for close to 9 years.
It bears repeating, I'm typically startled when I'm reminded of it.
I’m surprised you didn’t include the MCX. There were a lot of Ukrainian special forces using these in a certain configuration
true - we tried to not make the video 2 hours long however
@@GarandThumb I and many people would watch you talk for 2 hours. What about a part 2?
@@user-jl4ql7nx2t don't join a dumb war.
@@user-jl4ql7nx2t no you go join Wagner you tankie
Were, now theyre toast lmao
Very nice video from your team !!!
My Grandfather fought as a German in Ww2 in the württembergisches-Badisches 25. Infanterieregiment. He fought with the stg44.
I think the Gen 3 AK12 has a steel upper handguard that's mounted onto the gas tube to prevent wobble
I think they've ditched the 2rnd burst and also added a thumb selector on the left side of the receiver
Pointless comment I know
not pointless, you are correct that the modern ak12 generation made awesome upgrades. I just haven’t seen them fielded in significant numbers
@@GarandThumb Definitely these 1st gen ones are seen the most you're correct
@@GarandThumb most seemed to be lost during the first month of the war when the VDV got dick slapped at the airport
@@platapus112 you kidding? A they did fine at Antonov and B they have way more than 200 AK12s lol
That was great context.
Hey Garand, off topic here, but thanks for telling us your neck injury symptoms. I realized from what you told us I had them too, and wound up getting cervical spine fixed. ‘Preciate you man.
Disappointed you didn't have a Malyuk. Otherwise, great video! Very informative and interesting.
The M27 isn't even a support weapon. it is simply a 416 with a marines requested accessory block. The open bolt functionality it was originally touted to receive was scrapped which made it just another 416.
Just few years ago, the MG3(the 7,62mm nato sister of the MG42) was the sevice weapon for German Gunners.
And it is still one of the best machine guns in 7,62mm nato.
There are a lot very good guns from WWII.
Mosin Nagant, PPSH, Colt 1911, Mauser k98, Tommy Gun, Tokarev, I would say all of these and much more are still good today.
M3 grease gun is somehow still being used and soldier’s say it’s still effective
Mosin primary grease gun secondary will always be big dick load out
@@AdonijahFinch
Yes, I think the list for crappy guns fom WWII is shorter.
LOL... Sten Mp
😁
It's still the standard MG of the German army. The MG 5 and MG 4 just fill a gap and are a try of HK to sell more weapons besides the fact, that the MG3 is until today the best you can get.
The CETME ameli is also a sibling of the mg42 in 556 and is super dope
Other weird guns that have been seeing combat In Ukraine are the Tavor and Galil Ace, manufactured by RPC Fort. I’ve also seen a lot of images of FN Fs2000s.
I wouldn’t consider the Galil weird, and the Tavor is only slightly weird. FN Fs2000s are definitely weird.
Keltec RDB also , speaking of weird bullpups
@@SilentButDudley Your totally right about that
Haven't seen any mention of the Polish MSBS rifle, but those are being used too
Galil ACE isnt really that weird.
Love Mikah defending the pps. It's a sweetheart of a gun and 7.62 tok is an underrated cartridge.
Outstanding Video!! You mention training. Can you give a few old Army first gulf war vets some remedial training.. Instruction in the new equipment that replaced the old LBE TA50 and complete kit. Modern shooting training ect? What would you recommend ? TIA
24:52 Villain's underligs when shooting at the main character:
Mosins have also been seen in the war as well. The bolt action rifle is just in every conflict regardless of the technology level
Yup, supposedly DPR/LPR conscripts and some Wagner cannon fodder were getting Mosins.
@@mrvwbug4423 Mosins were handed to LDNR mobiks manning checkpoints early in the campaign, Wagner using Mosins is UA fiction
They're cheap, reliable, simple, and everyone and their grandma can get their hands on them. Bolt-actions will forever be used in battle until bullets are ineffective against armor like in star wars.
The M14 has also been seen used by the Ukrainian army.
I know it's not the same but it's still pretty cool to see pictures of them on the actual battlefield.
@@DeadBeatDex Is that a thing? Is that why they use lasers? Thats awesome if so lol
Your channel has gotten really good.
Apparently AK12 has received an update based on the use in combat (a couple of weeks ago if memory serves me well) - I haven't seen the details yet, but Kalashnikov co. seemed to be very proud of it.
Yes, AK12(2023) received downgrades to make it closer to AK-74. They ditch 2-round burst and other features that they advertised few years ago as reason why to choose AK12.
oof@@kilijanek
They lack faith in their own design when the chips are down
12:30 We actually have the dragunov in the finnish military! They're being replaced by an AR-10 clone from Sako (called the M23). I handled one in our version of Scout Sniper school, but I wasn't personally trained on it. I don't feel comfortable going into more details as I had to sign an NDA but yeah 😂
Sako m23!! TORILLA TAVATAAN!
A Finn? Cool! Are you excited to die for NATO and Brussels?? 😂
@@AB0BA_69they've been willing to kill for them for decades.
@@allengordon6929 Doesn't sound like it with how scared Finland was to join NATO before. They only had the courage to do that after Russia was distracted in Ukraine. Don't piss your pants!!
What's there to hide? Garand Thumb did a full review on the SVD, including showing what the scope markings looked like. 😄 Well, maybe your country's military is more comfortable is that wasn't more widely known. XD
Saw STG-44s in Syria too and I just want to know where the hell these people are getting 7.92 Kurz from?
Several European manufacturers still make ammunition for it in significant quantities
That "I believe" at 23:40 for the win!
I think the Dr. Is right, the battle rifle could become even more popular in future conflicts because of upgrades to armor etc. Not to mention the .308 is just a gorgeous round. Ballistic tip all day.
30cal supremacy
Probably impossible to find right now but Ukraine actually has a number of domestic service rifles that are pretty interesting like the malyuk. Snipex alligator also looks cool.
Take a look at Snipex Monomakh)
I've got those very rare weapons in my collection it took me a long time but I finally found them
One weapon that surprised me was seeing the F2000 (if that's what it's actually called) I've only ever seen them in video games so seeing a whole Ukrainian squad rolling with them was pretty neat
FN2000
Most likely, it was not FN-2000, but a Ukrainian development called Vulkan-M or Malyuk. This is a reworking of bullpubs based on AК
@@moroka1577 Belgium gave us fn2000 and it was issued to Belarusian legion and some SF forces
Saw the gun in the "stalker" series back in 2008. Instantly knew if any war breaks out in Ukraine, they would use it - tho it is not "mass" amount, but they got some good numbers of these guns from Belgium.
@@moroka1577 nope. There’s thousands of FN2000’s in Ukraine right now. Belgium donated heaps
STG44 is my favorite ever gun. Just so ahead of it’s time and an incredible innovation medium center fire cartridges in a fully-auto/semi-auto package.
super solid video topic, I've been enthralled at not only the HD footage in abundance, but also the wild tactics and weapons being used. Lots to digest, analyze, and learn.
I took mental notes of the firearms I saw in Ukraine last year. No I didn’t go fight, but I went for other reasons. The first one was an AKS-74u that a Ukrainian soldier had slung around himself. Saw several AK-74s, a couple AKM rifles, an RPD, an unknown gun with a long barrel and a Makarov or two, but can’t confirm as I only saw the base of the magazine sticking out from under a holster flap. I did overhear a conversation about how this one soldier needed to get a “new holster for his Makarov”.
One soldier I saw on two or three occasions carried an AR-15 Carbine, but am unsure if it was select-fire or not. It had an A2 front sight, Magpul flip up rear sight and in my opinion looked like the Springfield Saint, but with key mod options. Also the barrel appeared to be 12.5” long.
I noticed the Ukrainian men tended to have AK-74s with the folding stocks and the women carried ones with fixed stocks. Both AKM rifles had wood furniture and fixed stocks.
All those billions and no new weaponry? Learn up, and keep "voting"
Informed conjecture on my part but men carrying folding stocks and women carrying fixed stock AK-74s is probably because the men do the assaulting while the women would more likely be shooting from a fixed distance. In Iraq back in 2006-2007, I was actually one of the first to be able to buy a Magpul variable length stock and threw it on my SBR M4 while doing urban assaulting for better handling. In an assault, I'd set the stock to "stubby" mode, or retracted all the way in, if I were tasked with being the point man or second-man-in for that day. Folding stocks were never popular in the US military because Hollywood tended to depict folding stocks as something criminals used to hide a weapon. Plus a number of states in the US have an outright ban on them, including where I live.
@@Kaleki935Russbot, is that you stirring division again? 😂
There are other pictures that have been around for over a year showing other weapons brought in from the allies. One post on UA-cam does not describe every available weapon in Ukraine.
Also, it makes sense to have more AK's since the manual of arms would be more familiar.
@Yep 🙄 "Russbot"? Yeah, everyone that doesn't believe the lies of the govt and media about Ukraine are "Russbots"🙄
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Hello,
what kinda patch is that on your backpack?
Excellent presentation
By the way, the Kalashnikov concern has now corrected the loss of the aiming point when interacting with the receiver cover by dividing the weapon into an upper and lower with a rigid attachment of the barrel and the picatinny rail to the upper. His name is AKV-521
akv-521 isn't for sale yet. Also, it's only for civilians.
@@datrushkevich I'm just glad that for the "run-in" of new weapons and error correction, weapons are given into the hands of professionals and not the military
@@electrodaniru3368 You are right👍
14:50 That man is like: "I feel like ol´gramps!"
Would love to see a video like this but about equipment used in the war like helmets and plate carriers
They work. I've seen a guy showing off his armor with 4 impacts to the chest. He was in existential awe that he was alive
A lot of 6B47, 6B23, 6B45, 6sh117, SSH-68 on the Russian side
@@rzr2ffe325 don't forget the airsoft vests and helmets
You should 100% do a video on modern trench fighting tactics and considerations. Don’t rule out doing reviews of combat footage either. Love the videos man.
Maybe not? There is no fun in looking combat footage. This channel is more about the guns than about the war
Or sure if he has an experience
@@Niki4oR1987 yes, with all respects, but I think someone of usual ukrainian infantry men with 3-4 month of battle experience knows much more about trench warfare than Garand Thumb
Just to add something. There was one recent near-peer conflict: Armenia vs azerbajain. It was mostly drones vs T-72 and kind of foreshadowed what we're seeing in Ukraine.
Azerbaijan war was the opposite of Ukraine. In Ukraine, no sides have clear air superiority. In Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan had clear air superiority. Ukraine is a slow attrition war. Azerbaijan war was a fast blitzkrieg. Ukraine is being invaded by Russia. Azerbaijan was freeing its UN recognized lands under armenian invasion.
What do you mean? It's not really anything like that conflict. Russia has superior artillery, tanks, a navy, and an airforce, as well as more drones. Ukraine hasn't even been able to effectively use the drones that they have been given. Though, they have no navy, airforce, and not as many tanks and most importantly, artillery.
2nd Karabakh was near-peer in the loosest sense of the word. It was 44 day Bayraktar exhibition,armenians were getting bombed like Wehrmacht in '45 (in their infinite wisdom they embezzled the cash designed for AA modernisation.)
Azerbaijan was clearly a higher tier than Armenia, I’d hesitate to call it near-peer
@@ianhines2302 I guess technically before the war most of us would also have put Russia in higher tier than Ukraine. Clearly, though, training, doctrine and command decision making matter A LOT. (And Russia's are hilariously bad, more than we thought)
"you missed every single shot" " Thats not possible I was aiming right at it." lol every first person shooter online when you get pinged online xD
can’t ignore how clean that intro was
The gloves make it look like he's got black painted nails that are sharpened to a point. Fierce.
Glad we finally got a follow-up review for the CZ Bren
Garand thumb is the only guy who buys a whole bunch of tactical gear while making videos it’s awesome af
12:27 damn he's really slapping that trigger
Excellent video. It would be interesting to see an in depth comparison between the Stg44 and the M4 or any of the modern rifles that you have shown.
Stg44 vs mcx or scar would be cool
Throw the 7.62 AKs in there. The caliber is similar (but not the same) and the timeframe both were developed is pretty close. With how much the AK platform is still in use today, would be interesting to see how it's closest alternative would do.
There's also some ex-FDF Chinese Type 56's that were sent there in the first aid packages sent from Finland. Some snipers also use Sako TRG's.
Hi Michael, Poland has provided so far over 10k units of MSBS Grot Rifle in v.A1 and v.A2 - would U be able to give some opinion on that rifle?
Honestly the fact that there was a prop plane that dogfight a drone was crazy enough