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He was an intelligent , courageous and righteous man . Unlike most of lazy , big mouth keyboard warriors sitting in their little holes and scribbling their little "comments "
My entire bloodline fought for the Yugoslav Partizans. I was 8 when my immediate family escaped from Sarajevo during the Yugoslav civil war in the 90's. Unreal how much unrest there is in this world. I wish everyone love and peace !
Džaba brate oni kao bolje znaju od nas kako je bilo.... To što su našli prošli u što nas uče nije istina samo je istina to što ovi vole da seru i kao uvek su upravu
My grandpa was a factory worker in the Macedonian region of Yugoslavia. When the axis occupied it, him and other workers thought of as slavs were set to be executed. But then last minute a another worker (friend of my grandpa) convinced the officers that they were bulgarian and they were left to live. :)
I'm glad that you have a video that discusses the Ustashe's crimes. I was absolutely stunned to learn about this a few years ago and even more floored that nobody ever talks about it. It's legitimately difficult to find documentaries on the subject. Everyone is too preoccupied with the Nazi Party when in reality there were many such smaller, similar groups that did equally bad if not WORSE things to people. I actually decided to include knowledge of the Ustashe in a novel I've been writing, which is an alternate history novel, just because I want to keep alive the history that happened there with the Serbian and Croatian peoples, and let other people who eventually read it know that this stuff happened. My hope is that if they are wondering what the heck I'm talking about, they'll look into it for themselves and learn about the historical horrors that took place there. I salute you, Mister Armchair, for covering this sort of stuff in an unbiased, highly informative manner. Your videos are great overviews of the history of the world with each subject you cover.
@@milandjordjevic7225 As Croat we also know about them, and thankfuly most of us dont suport that ideologi in 21 cen.. in Slavonia old Croats also have some bad stories bcs of ustase,looting, killing, ustase turn weapons on own civilian population and thats why never gona have suport from majoriti... not gona defent ustase, but think what Serbs did to neigbhours, what četniks were doing last 20 years before ww2, great Serbia ideology?
I'd love to see an I depth look at the Yugoslavian resistance. All I can find are 5 to 10 minute bullet point videos where as the French resistance has many hour long documentaries.
Its because it was the communist that managed the resistance and the west has a big hate boner for communism that they choose to ignore it for so long. And yes as someone who's from the former state of Yugoslavia myself I see the french resistance as the biggest joke of WW2 trailing even further then the meme that was Italy.
It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but the book "Tito: A Biography" by Geoffrey Swain has very detailed information on the Partisan resistance. It doesn't exclusively focus on it, though.
yep, 5 to 10 min usually of poorly researched work, this one is 20 min of fox news and bad cartoons after grammarly intro. only thing worse than fake news is the fake history....which leads to more fake news and history repeating itself based on soundbites like this.
My grandad was a baker in Serbia at the beginning of the war and was put on a train to Dachau, fortunately his aunt bribed the SS officers with gold to get him off it. After this he joined up with the partisans since at the time he believed in communism and would gain the rank of Major in the baker devision after being injured on the front. He would later on leave Yugoslavia due to becoming disenfranchised with communism move to Scotland start up a bakery and meet Peter 2 and acutely became good friends. And that’s the very brief story of my grandad
@@williamsmeds1368 Man was an absolute legend our family made a book out of his life since it was wild. Only wish I was old enough to fully understand his life before he died
@@ReySchultz121 Going by his book that was a rather interesting time for him not only because of the war but because he was promoted because his previous major was sent to a punishment battalion for burning bread so needless to say he never burnt any bread when he was in command.
One very important notice: prince Pavle (Paul) was never interested or atracted by politics or statemanship. He was an artist. His brother, Aleksandar was a true king and the one who was really into the whole business. For quite some time Aleksandar tried to atract Pavle to some state work, but Pavle was absolutely not compliant. As the king Aleksandar was killed in 1934. in Marseilles, prince Pavle found himself in an unenvious position. That is one of the reasons why he performed relatively poorly in conducting foreign and domestic affairs.
pavle was close to milan stojadinovic whos government was notoriously fasist. and he didnt have the strenght, unlike aleksandar, to oppose pressures from the orthodox church. and serbian orthodox clergy was borderline fasist with nikolaj velimirovic leading the way during the 30s and 40s...
@@anangel2618 He wasn't if anything Aleksandar f$%&d Serbs most out of all the ethnic groups. Firstly Croatia and Slovenia where never countries before WW1. Slovenia was taken from Austria and Hungary that territory wasn't even a thing before Alexander gave it to the Slovenians, and Croatia was part of the Hungary. The Serbian Nationalists wanted to get what we now think of as Great Serbia with whole of Bosnian and Serbian majority parts of Croatia with part of the coastline. Montenegro would be an Autonomous territory within Serbia but they would get parts of Albania that where historically Serbian. Slovenia would have remained Austrian with parts of what is now Croatia that where always Austrian. Italy was to get a bigger part of the coastline then they got because Alexander send military to protect the theritory, and the rest of Croatia was to be Hungarian as it gas always been. But Aleksandar being a Yugoslav wanted to unite all the Slaves under one rule, he even wanted to be the King of Bulgaria. If you look at the facts before Yugoslavia Zagreb was a smaller city than even Subotica but given how much independence Aleksandra gave it it became a sudo capital city and grew more than any city in Serbia. Aleksandra was so in love with Slovenia that he built most of his personal castle's there.
@@anangel2618 well technically he was dictator toward serbs too after the abolishement of parlament after 6january dictatorship. modern serbian reactioneries argue he did everything to make serbia weaker. he was playing the balance game between serbian nationalists and croatian separatist, and ended up hated by both. im not a fan of the karadjordjevic dinasty or monarchy in general, but all around he was a positive historical figure.
Who else but the Balkans, lol. > invaded by an existential threat > bands together to liberate their lands > immediately starts to turn on one another, inter-ethnic, ideological, and religious civil wars and genocides while still fighting the existential threat
@@Jerry-tg7zx yeah reminds me how maratha and Sikh Rajputs clapped Mughals and other nawab's and nizams only to start bickering just 5 year later though atleast indians finally learned lesson after fighting non stop invasion for 2500 years lol
Except there was basically 6 seperate civil wars going in within the big civil war in Yugoslavia from 1941-1945. Each country/region in Yugoslavia had its own mini civil war going on during this time.
My grandpa served in WW2, he was a partisan. he died many years before i was born (not in a battle but of a heart attack some time after) and he didnt really tell my father what it was like in the war. i only know in which brigade he was and when and am currently trying to find out in which battles he served
Croatian situation.. Funny thing that my grandfathers were on opposite sides and both fought for the "right" cause, both escaping death several times, both lived over 80...in 1975 on my parents wedding they didnt even shook hands...heh it's kinda a creepy to find out how many stuff happened just to make ME live
With more and more information coming to hand, even 70 years after the war, you feel and understand why factions and leaders had decided to collaborate and hopefully minimise the bloodshed. Yet the Yugoslav history is just so deep and in depth this video has done some justice to explain this. My grandfather was a partisan, his brother was part of the Royal Yugoslav army. Differences were healed as they wanted to leave anyway for Australia where both families descendants live today.
An Arab perspective of ww2 would be a really fascinating topic to be honest. It saw many battles and minor axis powers in play in this region. Plus, it is pretty obscure compared to fronts such as the Eastern front or the Pacific theater.
Correction: Josip Broz Tito was a Slovenian and Croatian born in a town in Croatia that today is a super suburb of Zagreb. There is no ethnic identity called Serbo-Croatian. Great program. Good addition would be an understanding of the leadership who fought Franco and fascism in Spain. These volunteers were just like Hemmingway in their idealism where they made international connections.
You have no idea...Tito (eng. Agent Walter) was a Polish agent inserted into the Comintern by Churchill...The real Josip Broz (Croat) was killed in Siberia so that the fake one could take the IDENTITY of Josip Broz and become the head of the communist party Yugoslavia after the assassination of General Secretary Gorkić in Spain 1936-39 (Civil War in Spain)
Calling someone Serbo-Croatian is a simple way to navigate around the complicated bullshit that is the names of ethnicities. And the language is already called serbo-croatian so why can't there be a people too? Because of religion and writing systems?
@@remi609 The language was a compacted construct, similar to the Esperanto movement in the visionary days of creating the EU. If you want to be polite, you wouldn't be, if you are talking to someone from former Jugoslavija, who is neither Serb not Croat. Better to be ironic and say something funny, like are you from the former Republic of Jugo-Nostalgia? Or are you Balkan? Or are you from former Jugoslavija? While there were idealistic people who believed in making the fiction up for practical reasons and to make an internationally influential state, the late 80s have rise to coopting the good intentions into a greater Serbia. This had real consequences that affected the lives of millions of people living in the Balkans and outside of the Balkans. You can estimate that it affected, personally, 30M to 40M people worldwide. For each person from former Jugoslavija living there there is ~1 living abroad. So calling someone a Serbo-Croat would certainly not be something I would suggest to someone visiting my town who is Hungarian from Vojvodina, Kosovar, Muslim from Bosnia or Croatian from Vukovar. And I didn't even scratch the surface.
@@adrianosverko6601 well im 2/3 things you mentioned and everyone in Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Serbia can understand eachother when they speak so is it really that far fetched to say it's the same language? Calling it different languages is like saying American English is it's own language separate from British English, or that Mexican Spanish is a different language from European Spanish. The point I'm trying to make is with these languages such as Spanish and English there might be slight differences in certain words but in the end all of the people understand eachother on a base level so why would it be so difficult to accept it's the same language
The situation in Yugoslavia during WW2 can only be described as a series of civil wars within a civil war. For example in Bosnia and Croatia you had Ustashe vs Chetniks vs Partisans. in Kosovo you had Albanian balisti vs Partisans (who were mainly but not exclusively Serb). In Vojovidna you had Hungarian occupation forces vs Serb Partisans. In Macedonia you had Bulgarian + Albanian Balisiti vs Macedonian partisans vs Chetniks. In Sandzak region you had Muslims (even here you division between pro-Albanian Muslim and pro-Ustashe Muslims) vs Chetniks vs partisans .... just a complete mess.
Thank you for this armchairhistorian My grandfather(father side) was a partisan he was a explosives expert ,and my grandmother(mothers side) as well was a partisan she was 15 when she used to put up partisan posters wich was punishable by death Im trully proud of my ancestors
Great video, but you used the wrong flag for Croatia. What you did is the equivalent of using the modern German flag for Nazi Germany in WW2. The Ustase Croatian flag has no "crown", has the opposite checkered pattern and has a big U in the top left. Very different from today's flag.
@@koja69 not all Croatians were Ustaše, more Croats were Partizans, than Ustaše! Tito was Croatian, and Croatian(especially Dalamtian)Partizans are to be thanked that Tito survived battle at Sutjeska river!
Nobody who is not from these parts can imagine the amount of respect our parents and grandparents have for Tito. My dad literally has his picture in the living room. And the alias Tito literraly translates to you- that, as in you do that
@@drstevej2527 Many YU people loved and still love Tito not necessarily for Communism but for the stable and peaceful life they enjoyed. Don't be an illiterate six-year-old everywhere, this is pathetic.
As someone who’s family comes from Cephallonia it makes me very happy to see someone mention the massacre. I feel like it is not mentioned enough so thank you for that.
As an Italian who visited Cephalonia(and so went to the memorial) recently I appreciated that too, it's a very overlooked event in WW2 history. Never forget the men who died there
I am from ex Yugoslav republic of Montenegro. My great grandfather was one of many who were recruited into the Chetnik movement not long after the war began. He was fighting under general Draza Mihailovic all the way until 1944, when he changed sides and joined Tito's Partisans because many Chetniks began to question the passiveness of their movement and lack of any real action against the Axis by that time. He survived the war and lived until late 90s, dying a couple years before my birth. Sadly, he got to witness the bloody collapse of the country he fought for before he passed away.
Damn, i can't imagine what a sorrow and devastation he had when he could only observe this collapse of that great country. Of course there were problems, but their solution dooesn't consist in disintegration of the country, speaking as member of post-soviet country. Would u like to see all the countries united under 1 flag, but with more libereties for each member? Is it possible? How much hatred people still have to each other?
@@ygobah1915 I think it would be pretty cool but I don't think it would last anywhere near as long as last time. Tbh I don't know the best because my Great Grandad fled to the UK and my whole family has lived there ever since
@@ygobah1915 Many of us in countries of former Yugoslavia would not have problem with this. Lot of us don't have hatred no matter for civil war. But, I believe that this is bad idea because again some extremists will cause the problem with hatred. So it is better for everyone to have its own country and hopefully to live in eternal peace.
My grandfather, born in 1932 in Slovenia, saw colums of Axis soldiers retreating in last days of war to Poljana near Bleiburg/Pliberk, and he told me that Ustashe (and they brought their families with them) were killed in an emotional athmosphere that demanded revenge, let me explain. Germans got away,becuse of British army, but their collaboratores (Ustashe,Tchetniks, Vlasovs, Banderas, Tcherkezs,...)were here...and were all killed, soldiers, women, children, elderly, everyone. Other colums of refugees of collaborators, that were taken prisoners before they reached Austrian border, met simmilar fate, but there were some exemptions, for example, children younger than 17 were taken away from parents. Some kind of fast jury trials were also conducted, but mostly with same result. If you looked wealthy, you were collaborator, because everybody else were poor, so many were killed. At that time most of ordinary people were satisfied, that this killing took place, nobody shed a tear, because these collaborators lived 4 years of luxury while all other suffered weight of wartime. I was so provoked when my grandfather told me this, because he use these words: ˝Ubili so čisto ta prave!˝ meaning : They killed exactly the right ones! ( he was gentle man, never served an army, had two daughters, loved my grandmother until 88 years of old, he never hit andbody or swore and curse on anybody, so his statement was in sharp contrast to his character) I was stronglly discusted by the acts of partizans, but my point of view begins 50 years later, from different circumstances so it doesnt count., but the most people right after the end of war demanded it,so that it can all end. greetings from Celje, Slovenija
It reminds me of the ending scene of "Come and See", a Soviet classic from the 80s, and definitely the most powerful and greatest anti war movie ever made. What people there went through.. It just could not have ended fairly for the bad guys
Поздрав из Србије! How remarkable and honest comment. That was definitely part of our ex Yugoslavia history. I think that you grandfather was right. I grow up whail watching old partisan films. My grandparents was suffering during WW2. Bulgarian fascist burned their home totally. They were starving after. Many people in western part of Serbia supported chetniks, but in the end of the ww2 partisans came and people were happy because they were free of all of them. Gratings from Serbia!
@@alexdragacevac >Bulgarian fascist burned their home totally My family on my mother's side has no written document prior to my grandfather's generation because their village was burned by the Bulgarians while they were on retreat so all the older documents about the families living there are gone now.
They were killing ordinary people. Not just Ustashe. What are school children and unborn children guilty of? Killers were mostly ex-Chetniks previously working for fascists. They changed uniforms in the last days of the war.
A good introduction to the subject. There are some oversimplifications and errors which should be amended, but the video is overall good to help outsiders understand a very complex history.
Although there are a few omissions every now and then, like rebellions in Montenegro and southern Serbia, ethnic cleansings in Slovenia and post-victory guerilla warfare in Kosovo, this is very well documented and made video. Even most of the pronunciations were correct, which only added more to enjoyability of the video. Liked and subscribed.
@@gamewizardthesecond the ironic thing was that iirc invading Yugoslavia was originally the Italians' idea: they wanted to use it to get supplies into Greece
Small correction at 7:10, tito wasn't a serbo-croatian, he was a croat-slovene, his hometown was up in northern croatia in proximity with slovenia. Also the usage of the flag of modern day croatia at 12:43 as opposed to the flag that was used back in the day is disrespectful, not only because it wasn't historically accurate (imagine using germany's nowadays flag to represent nazi germany) but also because the flag was specifically changed in order to retain half a millenia old symbols whilst distancing the country from the fascist regime of ww2. In short this inaccuracy could mislead people into thinking modern day croatian institutions are using fascist symbols while they are not.
It is so weird to think that Tito was a Croat-Slovene, but hey, he at least liberated these lands! Also I agree with you about the modern flag of Croatia being used to represent fascist Croatia.
@@rastlonadjalin9455 I think you mean 'Yugoslavian nationalists and fascists that benefitted from the genocide of native ethnic groups and German regime.'
in then end we can all say Yugoslavia was like china of Europe, where there was a rivalry between nationalists and communists during the presence of a foreign invader ending in the victory of communists.
Actually the whole WW2 was a civil war. All the fractions where native to Yugoslavia. The Germans where from Banat and the Italians were from the coast that was part of Italy. There where 5 SS Divisions that where from what was Yugoslav territory before the war. The Croatian SS, the two Muslim division's Handschar and Kama, the German Prince Eugen for Banat and the Albanian Skenderbeg mostly from Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro. There was also the Italian allied Montenegro forces that controlled Montenegro, the NDH forces, the Backa Hungarian forces that where locals that joined Hungary, the Serbian Nedic occupation government and his Cetniks different from Mihailovic, the local Bulgarian VMRO in Macedonia.
My opa was an ethnic German living in Slovenia and was drafted at 16 in 1944 to fight the partisans. He was always surprised about the perseverance and determination of soldiers. He was later captured by the partisans and was imprisoned, the rest of his squadron was shot but since he was so young they spared him and he fled to the united states.
glad your opa was able to escape the madness. half of my family is from Maribor, Slovenia. My opa /who was half hungarian, half austrian/ worked on an estate of a german noble or something. after the war, he was given the estate by the communists but few months later gave it back as it wasn't his. My sister married an ethnic german (I believe his family was from serbia). they had to change the surname but managed to remain and had a decent life.
There's a whole sad sad story, of people named Gotschewar's. That was german exclave in south Slovenia up to the ww2, living peacefully side by side with Slovenians. Your grandad was left alive, probably because some partisan knew your family, and knew he was forcefully drafted. Story is so sad, as your people were forcefully relocated in 41, on command of Hitler himself. So after the war, they lost everything. I'm glad your grandad survived, as did mine, that was 18 when war started, but was fighter on partisan side, and was born in that part of slovenia, same as yours.
Ex-yugoslav territories were never united culturally to begin with. Since the dawn of the idea of yugoslavia there were many who opposed it. Always will be. It's an idea of a country that physically cannot exist in reality, much like the idea of perfect communism and such.
WRONG!!!!!! IT WAS HEY IF YOU MENTION WHAT CROATS AND OTHERS DID YOU WOULD BE IMPRISONED,BEATEN TO DEATH OR SIMPLY EXECUTED!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING TAHT MENTIONED ANYTHING OR JUST SIMPLY CRITISIZE TITOS WAYS OF DOIN THINGS WOULD MAKE YOU DISAPEAR,BE IMPRISONED OR PUBLICLY EXECUTED SIMPLY BCS ANYTHING WAS SEEN AS A DISRUPTION OF THE PORPAGANDA OF BROTHERLY UNION AND LOVE!!!!!!!!!!! TEH SO CALLE BROTHERLY UNION AND LOVE WAS A PROPAGANDA SCEME TAHYT TITO AND HIS PARTY CAME UP WITH FOR THE SAKE OF HOLDING POWER!!!!!! AND WHILE GERMANY AND MANY GERMAN GENERALS/COKMMANDERS WERE TRIED THE USTASHI/CROATIAN AND COMMANDERS AND SOLDIERS OF CROATIAN,BOSNIAN MUSLIM EXTREMIST AND ALBANIAN SS DIVISIONS WERE ALL SPARED !!!!!!!! UNDER THE GUISE OF BROTEHRLY UNION AND LOVE........ EVEN THOU SERBS YET AGAIN LET IT GO UNDER THE RUG AND JUST SIT NAD STAYED QUIET FOR TEH GREATER GOOD OF THE ALREDY DEPLEATED POPULATION SERBS WERE STILL SEEING IT AS BEING UNFAIR AND UNJUST CBS MANY PEOPLE WHO COMMITED ETHNIC CLENSING AND GENOCIDE OVER SERBS WERE LET FREE TO LIVE WITHOUT ANY WORRY AND SERBS WERE FORCED T OPRETEND LIEK NOTHING HAPPENED AND ALL IS GREAT......YET ANOTEHER SLAP IN THE FACE AND AT EXPENSE OF TEH SERBS.SAME WITH TERRITORY THING AND WAY IT WAS DONE. KOSOVO SITUATION WOUDL NEVER HAVE BEEN PROBELM IF TITO DIDNT PURSUE TO TRY AND GET ENVER HOXA EIGEHR AS ELLY AND INTEGRATE/ANNEX ALBANIA INSIDE YUGOSLAVIA EVEN GOING AGAINST BOTH WESTERNA DN EASTERN WISHES.(TAHST ONE OF THE MAIN CRACKS BETWEEN STALIN NAD TITO).IST WHEN TITO REFUSED TO LISTEN AND DID STUF WHIMSLY ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY CONSUL. STALIN HAD PROBLEMS DUE TO THAT BCS WESNERN POWERS SAW THAT AS SSSR/STALING BREAKING TEH AGREEMENT THAT HE WONT MOVE/WONT MAKE HUGE MOVE INTO BALKANS. TITO LITTERALY WAS WILLING TO GIVE WHOLE MODERN BORDER OF KOSOVO PROVINCE AND EVEN MORE TO ALBANIA (WITHOUT CARING WHAT SERBS SAY) IN EXCHANGE OF ALBANIA JOINING/MERGING INTO YUGOSLAVIA. BASICALY TITO WAS TRYING YET AGAIN ON EXPENSE OF SERBS TO GET MORE TERRITORY,GET MORE POWER. HE WAS SORTA STARTING TO CREATE MINI EU/MINI NATO SO TO SAY IN BALKANS WITCH NEIGEHR POWERS LIKED!!!!!!!!!! WEST NOR EAST LIKED IT HENCE WHY THERE WERE LOST OF BACK AND FOURTH AND UNDERMINING OF TITOS MOVES HENCE WHY TITOS ATTEMPT TO CREATE SOME KIND OF HIS OWN EUROPEAN UNION/NATO NEVER CAME TO FRUITION IST DUE TO BOTH WESTERN AND EASTERN (MAINLY USSR) NOT WANTING THIRD ENTITY TO BE A MARKET COMPETITION AND HAVE POWER SAY IN THINGS.....
@@karloveliki5373 Much like the idea of perfection, period. There is nothing in the world that can really be called perfect unless you're working with something designed by man with perfection intentionally woven into it as an achievable goal. (A test, for example)
In light of your "world wars from different countries perspective series" I was actually advocating for WW1 from Serbian perspective, since the war started and, arguably, ended on the Serbian front, but nobody talks about it, but this video came as a nice surprise about the same Balkan region.
Where are you from since you have the picture of the Illyrian Roman Emperor Justinian the Great? WW1 started in Serbia but ended in the western front in Germany which surrendered in November 1918. Serbs were on the fringe of extermination in WW1 if western allies wouldn't have won.
@@adolphbismark4331 WW1 was ended by Serbs on the Thesaloniki front,who on 15th September 1918 broke the Bulgarian forces which were already tired of war,and in September,October and November 1918 in less than 2 and a half months,Serbian army from Thesaloniki front,which was thought to be dead,kicked Bulgaria out of the war,liberated all of Serbia and Montenegro from Bulgarian and Austrohignarian occupation,and even crossed north and west into territory occupied by Austria Hungary,which already started to collapse,and Serbian army speed up the process of Austro Hungarian collapse.Later,Austria Hungary would surrender,and after that,Germany.Serbian army would liberate many territories from Austria Hungary and form Yugoslavia.German Kaiser even said that he can't believe that 60.000 Serbia soliders are ending the war.
@@adolphbismark4331 And without Bulgaria, Turkey, Austria Hungary, who is protecting wast and long southern borders of the Reich!? There was no German troops left for that new front, so surrender was inevitable!
@@adolphbismark4331 the vardar offensive from Macedonia broke the Bulgarian army and then threatened the ottomans from the west sufficiently to force them out of the war too. The coalition force, which mainly contained the Serbian army, then crossed into Serbia directly and began to march the full length of Austria Hungary, spelling the death sentence for Austria as even if it could stop the Italians it would not be able to stop an allied offensive marching straight through its heart. Once Austria Hungary capitulated and collapsed, Germany was left facing that same allied army coming up from the south. They knew that even if they somehow held the west (which they couldn't do anyway), they did not have the manpower to stop the coalition force invading Germany via Austria and Czechoslovakia. The importance of Serbia in those final days is of course up for debate, but its role was still critical in ending 3 of the 4 central powers and ensuring that Germany was truly lost. Kaiser Wilhelm is noted as saying '62000 serbs decided the war' when he heard the news, and the day Bulgaria gave in the German command told the government that their military situation was hopeless
For the last 10 genertetion every man on my dad's side of the family was involved in some kind of war on behalf of Serbia. In this i had 2 great grandads who were fighthting for the Chetniks and Partisan respectfuly, and both of them got a medal for the war and the one in the partisans a war pension. They even saved each other on some ocassions depending on wheather the village was held by the chetniks or partisans, lol. Just goes to show you how even people from the same house could have been on 2 different sides but still love each other.
My last name is Yugoslavian. As you can see it's difficult to pronounce in english (the L is silent) so I'm asked about it often. Less and less people know of or about Yugoslavia so I appreciate these videos that much more. Keep up the great videos!
@@mamutakada and others... By Rusini, do you mean Ruthenian? People of the Trans Carpathian region. Ie Muchachevo (sp?) This region was once part of Hungarian Empire, Czechoslovakia Ukrainian SSR Am I correct? My Roman Catholic parents attended a Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church and the people there and history were amazing.
Birulkin doesnt sound Yugoslavian. Also, in Yugoslavia, all letters are read, theres no silent bullshittery like in some languages.
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Where did you find the information about 200,000 killed partisans in Case Black? The combined Axis forces were around 120,000 and they outnumbered partisans at the rate 6:1, so it's even technically impossible that partisan casualties outnumbered Axis forces. There were around 7,000 partisan combat casualties in total (killed in action or liquidated as POWs and captured wounded fighters), and if you found some higher figures, it could be possible only if the slaughtered civilians in the battlefield zone are counted in too.
My great grandfathers were big heros during the war, one of my grandpa was in the partisan artillery brigade and helped a lot during the war, he survived soo many awful things even survived the battle for belgrade, he was given as a reward a huge plot of land where he started his farming part of life unfortunately it was hard for him because he got shot twice on the leg during the war. I have more stories but il keep them for next time.
I've been both to Užice and Memorial of the Battle of Neretva, aswell as Memorial on Sutjeska. I'm just completly amazed by the sucsess of Partizans during the time.
Great show! Thanks for bringing this topic on these days commemorating victory in the WWII! Doing a great job, drawings are awesome, especially nailed King Peter II, Regent and Draza. All the best and keep on making great shows in time to come! Cheers!
And he used a wrong flag for croatia, and failed to mention, i mean he did kinda but still not enough, last battle in eu was between ustase and partisans in slovenia which shows how thin the line is between nazism and pure fear, and third I know balkan is dangerous but stating 250 to 750 is a half million difference... I know hes trying to keep his head above the water here but still, a bit more work and perfect but again balkan..., pretty brave that he did the video at all
Well he could not heave been Slovene-Croatian either, because he consider himself ethnic Croat. You can find many proofs of that on internet, from his own words, not from "historians".
My great grandfather was a yugoslav partisan during WW2,he was wounded on the back of his head,while trying to detach a german train,he survived the war and died in the 1980s.
Awesome video, not many people talk about this! But I do have one complaint… The flag you used at 12:50 is the flag of modern croatia, not the collaborationst one
@@pasoska_kontrola These are not neo-nazis, they are simply mainstream Croatian public. Usual everyday crowd, but they support so called Independent State of Croatia from WW2.
An interesting side story to this is that the royalist forces aided downed Allied pilots that were completing bombing runs on Ploesti in neighboring Romania. Eventually, the OSS staged a massive airlift to rescue the pilots out of Yugoslavia.
@@heasne1738 Yes. OSS Misson: "Halyard" . Soldiers of Yugoslav Army in Fatherland under command of Army General Draza Mihailovic rescue more than 500 US pilots out of Yugoslavia. In 1946. Tito`s Court sentenced to death Gen. Mihailovic because he was collaborator (?!).
You chetniks are something else, what did the USA give you in 1999 bomed the hell out of Serbia and Montenegro thats how much the americans cared for us slavs the same goes with Draza serbs in NDH were dying while he was killing civilians in bosnia and herzegovina but he “cared” for serbs
200.000 slaughtered after battle of Sutjeska? Where in the hell did you get that number? There were several thousand killed after the battle (mainly those left behind - wounded and villagers), but not 200.000...
During the WHOLE war, in B&H around 180k people were killed so the 200 000 number doesn't factually make sense. I rewatched the video 3-4 times and it's full of errors like this. It needs a definite rewrite.
@@ThrowawayModeller It's anti-axis hysteria. There were no good guys in WW2, just really bad guys (western allies) and worse guys (Nazis and communists).
Two of my Great Grandfathers were fighting on different sides, one was enlisted in SDK (which worked together with the german army against communists). and one was in the Yugoslav partisans, and at the end of the war, when they found out the SDK grandfather was working with the germans, he was imprisoned, by then my other grandfather (now a captain in The Department for People's Protection or OZNA) had to get him out by faking some documents about how he wasn't working with the germans.
Great video, very educational! I would only like to add one thing. Although the USSR and Western Allies showed support for the Partisans, both mostly did it out of a hope to hold great influence in the post-war Yugoslavia. Soviet Union tried to claim it is helping Tito subjugate it's ''strong borgeoisie'' and the British we're willing to use the King and exiled government as long as they could to gain some leverage. Churchill was actually very upset when the Partisans liberated Trst/Trieste and Gorica/Gorizia before they could arrive there. The west used the unsettled post-war western border of Yugoslavia with Italy to pressure Yugoslavia in an alliance with them. It was only in the 50's when both sides of the Cold War developed good relations with the SFRY. But all in all the aid and support which the Partisans recieved from Allies was still very helpful. The video very good and I learned many new facts
I am from Montwnegro, and my great grand father was a Montenegrin Partizan. He was known for being kind to every one, even saving desperate wounded Četniks. He would get visited by the Montenegrin president after the War
Tbh issue with Yugoslavia and lack of recognition comes from what i would describe "wild west" nature of front which combined war of liberation, revolutionary war and civil war (on both ethnic and ideological lines) which leads to extreme complexity which is hard to understand even for natives.
Thank you sir for shining light on this part of history that all of us from the former Yugoslavia can be very proud of. One thing not mentioned is that Drvar operation was under command of Otto Scorzeny who liberated Mussolini and was an interesting character to say the least :))) I don't need to say much about Tito we know how great a leader he was during the difficult times. One interesting thing about him is that he spoke English, German and Russian and was a charmer. Tito had a young secretary 30 years younger as a lover during the whole war, she died unfortunately at the very end of tuberculosis probably because of all the hardship they went together with partisans.
Otto Scorzeny was offered command for that operation, but he declined it, since he didn’t have part in operational planning and the plan in place was faulty. His role was more of advisory.
My father told me stories of how the men in the village would to go door to door gathering to go fight and at times there would be one rifle for five men
Yugoslvs and Soviets were the true heroes of WW2,,what you guys did is unthinkable. 😅😅Nothing would shock German soldiers than to see a gunless partisan charging towards their line,,that kind of will, patriotism, courage and selflessness is scary
The New Zealand 2nd Division actually had a six week confrontation with the Partisans for control of Trieste at the end of the war. Many Croats and some Royalists could not go back and ended up in Auckland.
Its pretty awesome having access to all this extra information to the second world War. I wouldn't be hearing about any of this otherwise as I don't put the time into reading books about these smaller parts of the war. These videos are done so well
Brilliant! Well done, I did not expect that someone who is not from this area would handle such a complicated topic so well. Bearing in mind that even most people from the former Yugoslavia do not know how to draw the right conclusions. It should be noted that the British intelligence service and diplomacy had a great influence on the military coup, which annulled the alliance of Yugoslavia and the Axis powers. Also, the German campaign in the Balkans in the spring of 1941 prevented Germany from attacking the Soviet Union a few months earlier, and therefore during the Barbarossa campaign they failed to reach Moscow before the start of the rainy season and winter.
" It should be noted that the British intelligence service and diplomacy had a great influence on the military coup, which annulled the alliance of Yugoslavia..." In other words the British paid some corrupt Serbian generals to get rid of Serb Prince Paul and the Yugoslav govt in Belgrade. The result was the invasion of Yugoslavia by Nazi Germany, a Yugoslav civil war and a million dead Yugoslav citizens. "Also, the German campaign in the Balkans in the spring of 1941 prevented Germany from attacking the Soviet Union a few months earlier" Nazi Germany attacked Yugoslavia in April 1941. Nazi Germany had to wait for late June to invade the Soviet Union because of the heavy spring rains in the Soviet Union which turned their dirt roads into mud ( in Russian its known as the "Rasputitsa "). So the invasion of Yugoslavia never made any difference to "Operation Barbarossa" the invasion of the Soviet Union.
I am so happy that you and your team finally made a video that touches upon Yugoslavia! Yugoslavia is probably the most underrated country in the Second World War and its almost criminal they are never talked about in mainstream war studies. Again thank you for doing this.
@@Thejghostodst you'd be surprised :D sure they're pretty old folks, but i personally know quite a bunch alive and kicking. keep in mind people joined the partisan movement as kids back then.
Fun fact: Tito was probably considered the craziest mother trucker in the Eastern Bloc after WW1. He had massive balls and did not care. Stalin tried to kill him in many ways but he survived, after surviving many close calls with death, and the many KGB agents that were caught; He ended up sending Stalin a letter stating. "Stop sending people to kill me. We’ve already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle…If you don’t stop sending killers, I’ll send one to Moscow, and I won’t have to send another." Also Stalin sent him a jar full of rice or something in that nature and stated: "Try to count us all." Tito sent back a jar full of the hottest peppers and stated: "Try to handle us all." I believe thats what they said or something in that nature. Crazy son of a gun I tell ya.
The Polish Partisans also achieved just as much success but without any outside support as it found itself stuck between the Brutal NKVD Army of Rokossovsky in Vilnius. 2 Million Partisans were in the Armija Krajowa (AK). Im glad for you making videos on unheard groups and you should make one about eastern Poland! Keep up the work! 🇵🇱
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- Recent coup d'etat
- Failing economy
- Unprepared, smaller and outdated army
- Completely surrounded
- Ethnic tensions
- Still manages to defeat the Italians
the italians had weak logistics
@@shutup7957 enough of Italian apologism, they sucked. End of story
@@shutup7957 and a lack of NCOs in command
too angry to die
@@shutup7957 the italians are italians
It's impressive how the people of the Balkans managed to fit in a bit of infighting and civil war even in the face of German occupation
it wasn't a choice but circumstances.
And it wasn't a bit ... pretty sure the casualties were higher from the civil wars, than from fighting Germans.
a bit lol, 80 percent of casaulties is inner fightings and civillian massacres from eeach side to each side, not fighting with the germans
A bit is understatement.
@@dole7959 Each side to each side ? It is not something You could compare. Please, check Jasenovac...
Tito, the only man to stare down both Hitler and Stalin, and the outlived both of them.
Yup I love the story about his threat to stalin telling him that he could have a assassin kill him and not have to send another
@@kyleshiflet9952 It's fiction, but good propaganda I have to say.
@@greyngreyer5 true but knowing how much he hated Stalin I wouldn't be surprised if he had a plan like that in mind
Tito was a chad
Smoking a Cuban in the white house after being told not to
I never knew Tito had so much plot armor through all those close-call fights.
He not have armor under uniform !! This video are full of ignorance and its a BAD ONE!!
@@hrvojebalen5365 you don't know what plot armor is don't you?
@@hrvojebalen5365😂😂😂😂😂
That's called commie propaganda.
He was an intelligent , courageous and righteous man . Unlike most of lazy , big mouth keyboard warriors sitting in their little holes and scribbling their little "comments "
My entire bloodline fought for the Yugoslav Partizans. I was 8 when my immediate family escaped from Sarajevo during the Yugoslav civil war in the 90's. Unreal how much unrest there is in this world. I wish everyone love and peace !
I was 13. From Grbavica, Sarajevo.
није успео пројекат братства и јединства а? жао ми је што вас нису побили муслимани
BRATSVO I JEDINSTVO!
@@jasamameba4396 p o f a f a s t i malo dj o k u ..
@@machinegun3133 Bratstvo i jedinstvo, Otvoreni Balkan...do sledećeg rata. 😢
7:10 Tito's father was Croatian and his mother was Slovenian, not Serbian. Also his name was Josip Broz. Tito is an alias, not a surname.
Džaba brate oni kao bolje znaju od nas kako je bilo.... To što su našli prošli u što nas uče nije istina samo je istina to što ovi vole da seru i kao uvek su upravu
@@stefanmiloradovic5819 normalno da nije istina. Kod nas svaka strana laze u svoju korist. Ovo je bar najneutralniji video o ovoj temi koji ces naci.
@@saellenx3528 bogami meni se ne čini da je baš neutralan stav
@Complexus isto ne sposobni kao ti u pisanju. Baš smiješno 😂
Also, you used the current Croatian and Slovenian flags, not historical.
My grandpa was a factory worker in the Macedonian region of Yugoslavia. When the axis occupied it, him and other workers thought of as slavs were set to be executed. But then last minute a another worker (friend of my grandpa) convinced the officers that they were bulgarian and they were left to live. :)
Not much convincing needed
@@dayanbalevski4446 wdym?
I totally believe you
but why did he live in Yugoslavia
@@macloniasbattles8076 Idk probably was born there or something
I'm glad that you have a video that discusses the Ustashe's crimes. I was absolutely stunned to learn about this a few years ago and even more floored that nobody ever talks about it. It's legitimately difficult to find documentaries on the subject. Everyone is too preoccupied with the Nazi Party when in reality there were many such smaller, similar groups that did equally bad if not WORSE things to people. I actually decided to include knowledge of the Ustashe in a novel I've been writing, which is an alternate history novel, just because I want to keep alive the history that happened there with the Serbian and Croatian peoples, and let other people who eventually read it know that this stuff happened. My hope is that if they are wondering what the heck I'm talking about, they'll look into it for themselves and learn about the historical horrors that took place there.
I salute you, Mister Armchair, for covering this sort of stuff in an unbiased, highly informative manner. Your videos are great overviews of the history of the world with each subject you cover.
Serbian people know it well, belive me
Ustasha did some nasty crimes, but numbers are hugely overinflated. Btw from 1942 Ustasha and Serbian chetniks were allies most of the time.
This docum. about Jasenoac is the most famous:
ua-cam.com/video/Qs-lx8Bp3Dk/v-deo.html
@@milandjordjevic7225 my history teacher in the netherlands didnt even know about it he had to learn it from a 14 year old at the time (me)
@@milandjordjevic7225 As Croat we also know about them, and thankfuly most of us dont suport that ideologi in 21 cen.. in Slavonia old Croats also have some bad stories bcs of ustase,looting, killing, ustase turn weapons on own civilian population and thats why never gona have suport from majoriti... not gona defent ustase, but think what Serbs did to neigbhours, what četniks were doing last 20 years before ww2, great Serbia ideology?
I'd love to see an I depth look at the Yugoslavian resistance. All I can find are 5 to 10 minute bullet point videos where as the French resistance has many hour long documentaries.
Its because it was the communist that managed the resistance and the west has a big hate boner for communism that they choose to ignore it for so long. And yes as someone who's from the former state of Yugoslavia myself I see the french resistance as the biggest joke of WW2 trailing even further then the meme that was Italy.
It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but the book "Tito: A Biography" by Geoffrey Swain has very detailed information on the Partisan resistance. It doesn't exclusively focus on it, though.
yep, 5 to 10 min usually of poorly researched work, this one is 20 min of fox news and bad cartoons after grammarly intro. only thing worse than fake news is the fake history....which leads to more fake news and history repeating itself based on soundbites like this.
yeah, and it sucks. hopefully the armchair historian will make a video on that.
@@Azra2769 I'm glad it's not just me 🥲
12:28 OMG the way that you make meme cameos in your videos is outstanding
Other memes I noticed:
3:41
4:40
6:22
18:46
@@gizmo285 what about 15:33 with the NFT?
@@gizmo285 thank you for your commitment
No bitches?
@@kaiser_Haux Thats what I'm wodering as well
My grandad was a baker in Serbia at the beginning of the war and was put on a train to Dachau, fortunately his aunt bribed the SS officers with gold to get him off it.
After this he joined up with the partisans since at the time he believed in communism and would gain the rank of Major in the baker devision after being injured on the front.
He would later on leave Yugoslavia due to becoming disenfranchised with communism move to Scotland start up a bakery and meet Peter 2 and acutely became good friends.
And that’s the very brief story of my grandad
Your grandfather was awesome! You should be really proud!
*Baker Division*
Your grandad's a fuckin' badass.
@@williamsmeds1368 Man was an absolute legend our family made a book out of his life since it was wild. Only wish I was old enough to fully understand his life before he died
@@ReySchultz121 Going by his book that was a rather interesting time for him not only because of the war but because he was promoted because his previous major was sent to a punishment battalion for burning bread so needless to say he never burnt any bread when he was in command.
@@explosivefiend9008 In his book, his previous Major basically committed a warcrime against *BREAD.*
Da smo bar nešto naučili iz te krvave povijesti ali eto nismo pa se ponovila i usput sjebalo i moj život. Baš je lijepo ovo čovječanstvo.
Great to see this as my great- grandpa was a hero of Yugoslavia in ww2. We still have his statue in my hometown!
Be proud! Be very proud!
My man
aw, that's awesome, what's his name?
@@LiIGremlin His name was Simo Bjelajac. There were a lot of people from my area that were given the honors for heroic deeds.
Koji je to grad?
One very important notice: prince Pavle (Paul) was never interested or atracted by politics or statemanship. He was an artist. His brother, Aleksandar was a true king and the one who was really into the whole business. For quite some time Aleksandar tried to atract Pavle to some state work, but Pavle was absolutely not compliant. As the king Aleksandar was killed in 1934. in Marseilles, prince Pavle found himself in an unenvious position. That is one of the reasons why he performed relatively poorly in conducting foreign and domestic affairs.
pavle was close to milan stojadinovic whos government was notoriously fasist. and he didnt have the strenght, unlike aleksandar, to oppose pressures from the orthodox church. and serbian orthodox clergy was borderline fasist with nikolaj velimirovic leading the way during the 30s and 40s...
While Aleksandar Karađorđević may know how to rule a country, this still doesn't erase the fact that he was a dictator towards Croats and Slovenians
@@anangel2618 there doesn't seem to be any other way in these places...
@@anangel2618 He wasn't if anything Aleksandar f$%&d Serbs most out of all the ethnic groups. Firstly Croatia and Slovenia where never countries before WW1. Slovenia was taken from Austria and Hungary that territory wasn't even a thing before Alexander gave it to the Slovenians, and Croatia was part of the Hungary. The Serbian Nationalists wanted to get what we now think of as Great Serbia with whole of Bosnian and Serbian majority parts of Croatia with part of the coastline. Montenegro would be an Autonomous territory within Serbia but they would get parts of Albania that where historically Serbian. Slovenia would have remained Austrian with parts of what is now Croatia that where always Austrian. Italy was to get a bigger part of the coastline then they got because Alexander send military to protect the theritory, and the rest of Croatia was to be Hungarian as it gas always been. But Aleksandar being a Yugoslav wanted to unite all the Slaves under one rule, he even wanted to be the King of Bulgaria. If you look at the facts before Yugoslavia Zagreb was a smaller city than even Subotica but given how much independence Aleksandra gave it it became a sudo capital city and grew more than any city in Serbia. Aleksandra was so in love with Slovenia that he built most of his personal castle's there.
@@anangel2618 well technically he was dictator toward serbs too after the abolishement of parlament after 6january dictatorship. modern serbian reactioneries argue he did everything to make serbia weaker. he was playing the balance game between serbian nationalists and croatian separatist, and ended up hated by both. im not a fan of the karadjordjevic dinasty or monarchy in general, but all around he was a positive historical figure.
Who else but the Balkans, lol.
> invaded by an existential threat
> bands together to liberate their lands
> immediately starts to turn on one another, inter-ethnic, ideological, and religious civil wars and genocides while still fighting the existential threat
That is too based ngl
Basically India before the Bri’ish lol
@@Jerry-tg7zx yeah reminds me how maratha and Sikh Rajputs clapped Mughals and other nawab's and nizams only to start bickering just 5 year later though atleast indians finally learned lesson after fighting non stop invasion for 2500 years lol
Except there was basically 6 seperate civil wars going in within the big civil war in Yugoslavia from 1941-1945. Each country/region in Yugoslavia had its own mini civil war going on during this time.
THere was 40 years off peace..call "brotherhood and unitu"..but the moment communism was swith 2 democracy in 1990 things start roling
My grand-grand father was a partizan.
My grand mother was feeding and supporting the partizans as a child often in Macedonia.
BRO I LIKE HOW AT 12:27 THE IMAGE IS JUST A REMAKE OF "NO MAIDENS" BUT WW2 VERIZON
“NO BITCHES?”
My grandpa served in WW2, he was a partisan. he died many years before i was born (not in a battle but of a heart attack some time after) and he didnt really tell my father what it was like in the war. i only know in which brigade he was and when and am currently trying to find out in which battles he served
Wow, i'm impressed. You made the awesome Finland video only a week ago and already have a new video. Well done, Armchair team.
armchair went off with that Finland video
Croatian situation.. Funny thing that my grandfathers were on opposite sides and both fought for the "right" cause, both escaping death several times, both lived over 80...in 1975 on my parents wedding they didnt even shook hands...heh it's kinda a creepy to find out how many stuff happened just to make ME live
7:11 Tito was not Serbo-Croatian, but Slovene-Croatian. His father was Croatian and his mother a Slovene.
His source is serbian so... You can tell by what he talks.American can't know our history
@@cartman1311 in Serbian sources, nobody ever said that Tito was Serbian. Do they be a fool.
He was Croatian
@@cartman1311 Serbian sources say that Tito was a half-Serb? Haha interesting ... I'd like you to show me that source.
Nobody knows what devil tito was.
With more and more information coming to hand, even 70 years after the war, you feel and understand why factions and leaders had decided to collaborate and hopefully minimise the bloodshed. Yet the Yugoslav history is just so deep and in depth this video has done some justice to explain this. My grandfather was a partisan, his brother was part of the Royal Yugoslav army. Differences were healed as they wanted to leave anyway for Australia where both families descendants live today.
An Arab perspective of ww2 would be a really fascinating topic to be honest. It saw many battles and minor axis powers in play in this region. Plus, it is pretty obscure compared to fronts such as the Eastern front or the Pacific theater.
I agree.
@Land Of Aryans cool , don't care.
@@fastestfail2645 No islands?
@Dylan • why did they invade them?
@@user-op8fg3ny3j To establish a land route for the UK to supply the USSR and just in case Iran decided to invade
Correction: Josip Broz Tito was a Slovenian and Croatian born in a town in Croatia that today is a super suburb of Zagreb. There is no ethnic identity called Serbo-Croatian. Great program. Good addition would be an understanding of the leadership who fought Franco and fascism in Spain. These volunteers were just like Hemmingway in their idealism where they made international connections.
You’re right Croatian identity is a fake nationality cooked up in Vatican laboratories.
90% of croats are Catholic serbs
You have no idea...Tito (eng. Agent Walter) was a Polish agent inserted into the Comintern by Churchill...The real Josip Broz (Croat) was killed in Siberia so that the fake one could take the IDENTITY of Josip Broz and become the head of the communist party Yugoslavia after the assassination of General Secretary Gorkić in Spain 1936-39 (Civil War in Spain)
Calling someone Serbo-Croatian is a simple way to navigate around the complicated bullshit that is the names of ethnicities. And the language is already called serbo-croatian so why can't there be a people too? Because of religion and writing systems?
@@remi609 The language was a compacted construct, similar to the Esperanto movement in the visionary days of creating the EU.
If you want to be polite, you wouldn't be, if you are talking to someone from former Jugoslavija, who is neither Serb not Croat. Better to be ironic and say something funny, like are you from the former Republic of Jugo-Nostalgia? Or are you Balkan? Or are you from former Jugoslavija?
While there were idealistic people who believed in making the fiction up for practical reasons and to make an internationally influential state, the late 80s have rise to coopting the good intentions into a greater Serbia. This had real consequences that affected the lives of millions of people living in the Balkans and outside of the Balkans. You can estimate that it affected, personally, 30M to 40M people worldwide. For each person from former Jugoslavija living there there is ~1 living abroad. So calling someone a Serbo-Croat would certainly not be something I would suggest to someone visiting my town who is Hungarian from Vojvodina, Kosovar, Muslim from Bosnia or Croatian from Vukovar. And I didn't even scratch the surface.
@@adrianosverko6601 well im 2/3 things you mentioned and everyone in Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Serbia can understand eachother when they speak so is it really that far fetched to say it's the same language? Calling it different languages is like saying American English is it's own language separate from British English, or that Mexican Spanish is a different language from European Spanish. The point I'm trying to make is with these languages such as Spanish and English there might be slight differences in certain words but in the end all of the people understand eachother on a base level so why would it be so difficult to accept it's the same language
The situation in Yugoslavia during WW2 can only be described as a series of civil wars within a civil war.
For example in Bosnia and Croatia you had Ustashe vs Chetniks vs Partisans. in Kosovo you had Albanian balisti vs Partisans (who were mainly but not exclusively Serb). In Vojovidna you had Hungarian occupation forces vs Serb Partisans. In Macedonia you had Bulgarian + Albanian Balisiti vs Macedonian partisans vs Chetniks. In Sandzak region you had Muslims (even here you division between pro-Albanian Muslim and pro-Ustashe Muslims) vs Chetniks vs partisans .... just a complete mess.
nije sandzak nego Raska
Good lord WWII Yugoslavia was a mess, only beat by 1990s Yugoslavia.
@@Kaiserboo1871 nah, 90s was nothing compared to ww2
@@serbianwarrior9032 Raska je izmisljen pojam.
@@modricaninmodricki7559 Sta bre izmenjen 😂 uci istoriju..
Thank you for this armchairhistorian
My grandfather(father side) was a partisan he was a explosives expert ,and my grandmother(mothers side) as well was a partisan she was 15 when she used to put up partisan posters wich was punishable by death
Im trully proud of my ancestors
The nazis killed my grand father in a masacre in the Village of Draginac
@@Sirmatthaeus Which Nazis? there were several type of them.
@@xerxen100 the german nazis
@@Sirmatthaeus I see.
@@Sirmatthaeus Oh, I'm sorry for your loss man
Great video, but you used the wrong flag for Croatia. What you did is the equivalent of using the modern German flag for Nazi Germany in WW2. The Ustase Croatian flag has no "crown", has the opposite checkered pattern and has a big U in the top left. Very different from today's flag.
@@koja69 not all Croatians were Ustaše, more Croats were Partizans, than Ustaše! Tito was Croatian, and Croatian(especially Dalamtian)Partizans are to be thanked that Tito survived battle at Sutjeska river!
@@kresokresovski7515 tito was yugoslav not croatian
@@randomriku6774 if you have that logic then they were all yugoslav, even ustashe and chetnichs
@@randomriku6774 yugoslav ain't a ethnicity m8
@@randomriku6774 not by birth, but by his own choosing. Yugoslav nationality was established after WW II
Nobody who is not from these parts can imagine the amount of respect our parents and grandparents have for Tito. My dad literally has his picture in the living room.
And the alias Tito literraly translates to you- that, as in you do that
Yes because communism has worked so well in the world!
@@drstevej2527 It did work pretty well for a few decades. Also the communist ideology unified massive independence movements around the globe.
@@drstevej2527 Many YU people loved and still love Tito not necessarily for Communism but for the stable and peaceful life they enjoyed. Don't be an illiterate six-year-old everywhere, this is pathetic.
@@mottom2657
Meaning higher education is not for you. Under Tito there was stability because anyone who dared to speak out faced prison or worse.
As someone who’s family comes from Cephallonia it makes me very happy to see someone mention the massacre. I feel like it is not mentioned enough so thank you for that.
As an Italian who visited Cephalonia(and so went to the memorial) recently I appreciated that too, it's a very overlooked event in WW2 history. Never forget the men who died there
I am from ex Yugoslav republic of Montenegro. My great grandfather was one of many who were recruited into the Chetnik movement not long after the war began. He was fighting under general Draza Mihailovic all the way until 1944, when he changed sides and joined Tito's Partisans because many Chetniks began to question the passiveness of their movement and lack of any real action against the Axis by that time. He survived the war and lived until late 90s, dying a couple years before my birth. Sadly, he got to witness the bloody collapse of the country he fought for before he passed away.
My great grandfather was also part of the partisans. Sadly he died of cancer in the 80s
@@gypsyslayer4224 I have question would you like to have a unified Yugoslav
Damn, i can't imagine what a sorrow and devastation he had when he could only observe this collapse of that great country. Of course there were problems, but their solution dooesn't consist in disintegration of the country, speaking as member of post-soviet country. Would u like to see all the countries united under 1 flag, but with more libereties for each member? Is it possible? How much hatred people still have to each other?
@@ygobah1915 I think it would be pretty cool but I don't think it would last anywhere near as long as last time. Tbh I don't know the best because my Great Grandad fled to the UK and my whole family has lived there ever since
@@ygobah1915 Many of us in countries of former Yugoslavia would not have problem with this. Lot of us don't have hatred no matter for civil war. But, I believe that this is bad idea because again some extremists will cause the problem with hatred. So it is better for everyone to have its own country and hopefully to live in eternal peace.
That "No Surrender?" poster absolutely killed me
My grandfather, born in 1932 in Slovenia, saw colums of Axis soldiers retreating in last days of war to Poljana near Bleiburg/Pliberk, and he told me that Ustashe (and they brought their families with them) were killed in an emotional athmosphere that demanded revenge, let me explain.
Germans got away,becuse of British army, but their collaboratores (Ustashe,Tchetniks, Vlasovs, Banderas, Tcherkezs,...)were here...and were all killed, soldiers, women, children, elderly, everyone.
Other colums of refugees of collaborators, that were taken prisoners before they reached Austrian border, met simmilar fate, but there were some exemptions, for example, children younger than 17 were taken away from parents. Some kind of fast jury trials were also conducted, but mostly with same result. If you looked wealthy, you were collaborator, because everybody else were poor, so many were killed.
At that time most of ordinary people were satisfied, that this killing took place, nobody shed a tear, because these collaborators lived 4 years of luxury while all other suffered weight of wartime.
I was so provoked when my grandfather told me this, because he use these words: ˝Ubili so čisto ta prave!˝ meaning : They killed exactly the right ones! ( he was gentle man, never served an army, had two daughters, loved my grandmother until 88 years of old, he never hit andbody or swore and curse on anybody, so his statement was in sharp contrast to his character)
I was stronglly discusted by the acts of partizans, but my point of view begins 50 years later, from different circumstances so it doesnt count., but the most people right after the end of war demanded it,so that it can all end.
greetings from Celje, Slovenija
It reminds me of the ending scene of "Come and See", a Soviet classic from the 80s, and definitely the most powerful and greatest anti war movie ever made. What people there went through.. It just could not have ended fairly for the bad guys
Поздрав из Србије!
How remarkable and honest comment.
That was definitely part of our ex Yugoslavia history.
I think that you grandfather was right.
I grow up whail watching old partisan films. My grandparents was suffering during WW2. Bulgarian fascist burned their home totally. They were starving after. Many people in western part of Serbia supported chetniks, but in the end of the ww2 partisans came and people were happy because they were free of all of them.
Gratings from Serbia!
@@alexdragacevac >Bulgarian fascist burned their home totally
My family on my mother's side has no written document prior to my grandfather's generation because their village was burned by the Bulgarians while they were on retreat so all the older documents about the families living there are gone now.
They were killing ordinary people. Not just Ustashe. What are school children and unborn children guilty of? Killers were mostly ex-Chetniks previously working for fascists. They changed uniforms in the last days of the war.
@@igcuric just stop with propaganday
A good introduction to the subject. There are some oversimplifications and errors which should be amended, but the video is overall good to help outsiders understand a very complex history.
Although there are a few omissions every now and then, like rebellions in Montenegro and southern Serbia, ethnic cleansings in Slovenia and post-victory guerilla warfare in Kosovo, this is very well documented and made video. Even most of the pronunciations were correct, which only added more to enjoyability of the video.
Liked and subscribed.
I was surprised that he didn't mention the independent state of Montenegro lasting barelly 24 hours
@@gamewizardthesecond Technically, it was called Montenegro Free State, but yeah, they were so useless that it's truly remarkable.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Italy man, they were better off sticking out of the war, the fascist regime would have definitely lasted longer
@@gamewizardthesecond good thing they didn’t then
@@gamewizardthesecond the ironic thing was that iirc invading Yugoslavia was originally the Italians' idea: they wanted to use it to get supplies into Greece
Small correction at 7:10, tito wasn't a serbo-croatian, he was a croat-slovene, his hometown was up in northern croatia in proximity with slovenia.
Also the usage of the flag of modern day croatia at 12:43 as opposed to the flag that was used back in the day is disrespectful, not only because it wasn't historically accurate (imagine using germany's nowadays flag to represent nazi germany) but also because the flag was specifically changed in order to retain half a millenia old symbols whilst distancing the country from the fascist regime of ww2. In short this inaccuracy could mislead people into thinking modern day croatian institutions are using fascist symbols while they are not.
Thank you very much, my mind is at peace now
damn here I was thinking croatia was a fascist regime now :/
@@suRGEangl lol
@@suRGEangl a bit disappointed tbh
It is so weird to think that Tito was a Croat-Slovene, but hey, he at least liberated these lands!
Also I agree with you about the modern flag of Croatia being used to represent fascist Croatia.
Fantastic video!
Thank you very much for making it!
tito was such a badass that when he went to the pentagon and told “we don’t smoke here” he just said “good for you” and continued smoking
He also sent every non comunist in yugoslavia to con. camp
@@rastlonadjalin9455 good, well deserved
@@rastlonadjalin9455 based
@@rastlonadjalin9455 more like niazis
@@rastlonadjalin9455 I think you mean 'Yugoslavian nationalists and fascists that benefitted from the genocide of native ethnic groups and German regime.'
12:30 has to be the funniest thing
Lol yeah
Yeah
No Bitches?
No Surrender?
No land past the Volga
12:23 nft Easter egg
in then end we can all say Yugoslavia was like china of Europe, where there was a rivalry between nationalists and communists during the presence of a foreign invader ending in the victory of communists.
Actually the whole WW2 was a civil war. All the fractions where native to Yugoslavia. The Germans where from Banat and the Italians were from the coast that was part of Italy. There where 5 SS Divisions that where from what was Yugoslav territory before the war. The Croatian SS, the two Muslim division's Handschar and Kama, the German Prince Eugen for Banat and the Albanian Skenderbeg mostly from Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro. There was also the Italian allied Montenegro forces that controlled Montenegro, the NDH forces, the Backa Hungarian forces that where locals that joined Hungary, the Serbian Nedic occupation government and his Cetniks different from Mihailovic, the local Bulgarian VMRO in Macedonia.
Hello Scorpo your videos are so good I enjoy them keep up the good work
The difference is that in Yugoslavia nationalists sided with invaders.
@@zeljosarajevic BS
@@FilipCordas 🤣👍
Bravo for the documentary.. beautiful
My opa was an ethnic German living in Slovenia and was drafted at 16 in 1944 to fight the partisans. He was always surprised about the perseverance and determination of soldiers. He was later captured by the partisans and was imprisoned, the rest of his squadron was shot but since he was so young they spared him and he fled to the united states.
The nazis killed my grand father in a masacre in the village of Draginac
glad your opa was able to escape the madness. half of my family is from Maribor, Slovenia. My opa /who was half hungarian, half austrian/ worked on an estate of a german noble or something. after the war, he was given the estate by the communists but few months later gave it back as it wasn't his. My sister married an ethnic german (I believe his family was from serbia). they had to change the surname but managed to remain and had a decent life.
There's a whole sad sad story, of people named Gotschewar's. That was german exclave in south Slovenia up to the ww2, living peacefully side by side with Slovenians. Your grandad was left alive, probably because some partisan knew your family, and knew he was forcefully drafted.
Story is so sad, as your people were forcefully relocated in 41, on command of Hitler himself. So after the war, they lost everything. I'm glad your grandad survived, as did mine, that was 18 when war started, but was fighter on partisan side, and was born in that part of slovenia, same as yours.
The Balkans when Tito was alive: Y'know what? Maybe it's nice to be nice to each other
The Balkans when Tito died: *Peace was never an option*
Ex-yugoslav territories were never united culturally to begin with. Since the dawn of the idea of yugoslavia there were many who opposed it. Always will be. It's an idea of a country that physically cannot exist in reality, much like the idea of perfect communism and such.
@@karloveliki5373 there's plenty of multi ethnic countries. it is possible, but several factors lead to the collapse of yugo
WRONG!!!!!! IT WAS HEY IF YOU MENTION WHAT CROATS AND OTHERS DID YOU WOULD BE IMPRISONED,BEATEN TO DEATH OR SIMPLY EXECUTED!!!!!!!!!
EVERYTHING TAHT MENTIONED ANYTHING OR JUST SIMPLY CRITISIZE TITOS WAYS OF DOIN THINGS WOULD MAKE YOU DISAPEAR,BE IMPRISONED OR PUBLICLY EXECUTED SIMPLY BCS ANYTHING WAS SEEN AS A DISRUPTION OF THE PORPAGANDA OF BROTHERLY UNION AND LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!
TEH SO CALLE BROTHERLY UNION AND LOVE WAS A PROPAGANDA SCEME TAHYT TITO AND HIS PARTY CAME UP WITH FOR THE SAKE OF HOLDING POWER!!!!!!
AND WHILE GERMANY AND MANY GERMAN GENERALS/COKMMANDERS WERE TRIED THE USTASHI/CROATIAN AND COMMANDERS AND SOLDIERS OF CROATIAN,BOSNIAN MUSLIM EXTREMIST AND ALBANIAN SS DIVISIONS WERE ALL SPARED !!!!!!!! UNDER THE GUISE OF BROTEHRLY UNION AND LOVE........
EVEN THOU SERBS YET AGAIN LET IT GO UNDER THE RUG AND JUST SIT NAD STAYED QUIET FOR TEH GREATER GOOD OF THE ALREDY DEPLEATED POPULATION SERBS WERE STILL SEEING IT AS BEING UNFAIR AND UNJUST CBS MANY PEOPLE WHO COMMITED ETHNIC CLENSING AND GENOCIDE OVER SERBS WERE LET FREE TO LIVE WITHOUT ANY WORRY AND SERBS WERE FORCED T OPRETEND LIEK NOTHING HAPPENED AND ALL IS GREAT......YET ANOTEHER SLAP IN THE FACE AND AT EXPENSE OF TEH SERBS.SAME WITH TERRITORY THING AND WAY IT WAS DONE.
KOSOVO SITUATION WOUDL NEVER HAVE BEEN PROBELM IF TITO DIDNT PURSUE TO TRY AND GET ENVER HOXA EIGEHR AS ELLY AND INTEGRATE/ANNEX ALBANIA INSIDE YUGOSLAVIA EVEN GOING AGAINST BOTH WESTERNA DN EASTERN WISHES.(TAHST ONE OF THE MAIN CRACKS BETWEEN STALIN NAD TITO).IST WHEN TITO REFUSED TO LISTEN AND DID STUF WHIMSLY ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY CONSUL.
STALIN HAD PROBLEMS DUE TO THAT BCS WESNERN POWERS SAW THAT AS SSSR/STALING BREAKING TEH AGREEMENT THAT HE WONT MOVE/WONT MAKE HUGE MOVE INTO BALKANS.
TITO LITTERALY WAS WILLING TO GIVE WHOLE MODERN BORDER OF KOSOVO PROVINCE AND EVEN MORE TO ALBANIA (WITHOUT CARING WHAT SERBS SAY) IN EXCHANGE OF ALBANIA JOINING/MERGING INTO YUGOSLAVIA.
BASICALY TITO WAS TRYING YET AGAIN ON EXPENSE OF SERBS TO GET MORE TERRITORY,GET MORE POWER. HE WAS SORTA STARTING TO CREATE MINI EU/MINI NATO SO TO SAY IN BALKANS WITCH NEIGEHR POWERS LIKED!!!!!!!!!!
WEST NOR EAST LIKED IT HENCE WHY THERE WERE LOST OF BACK AND FOURTH AND UNDERMINING OF TITOS MOVES HENCE WHY TITOS ATTEMPT TO CREATE SOME KIND OF HIS OWN EUROPEAN UNION/NATO NEVER CAME TO FRUITION IST DUE TO BOTH WESTERN AND EASTERN (MAINLY USSR) NOT WANTING THIRD ENTITY TO BE A MARKET COMPETITION AND HAVE POWER SAY IN THINGS.....
@@suRGEangl It's amazing what one jar can do to a country.
@@karloveliki5373 Much like the idea of perfection, period. There is nothing in the world that can really be called perfect unless you're working with something designed by man with perfection intentionally woven into it as an achievable goal. (A test, for example)
In light of your "world wars from different countries perspective series" I was actually advocating for WW1 from Serbian perspective, since the war started and, arguably, ended on the Serbian front, but nobody talks about it, but this video came as a nice surprise about the same Balkan region.
Where are you from since you have the picture of the Illyrian Roman Emperor Justinian the Great?
WW1 started in Serbia but ended in the western front in Germany which surrendered in November 1918.
Serbs were on the fringe of extermination in WW1 if western allies wouldn't have won.
@@adolphbismark4331 WW1 was ended by Serbs on the Thesaloniki front,who on 15th September 1918 broke the Bulgarian forces which were already tired of war,and in September,October and November 1918 in less than 2 and a half months,Serbian army from Thesaloniki front,which was thought to be dead,kicked Bulgaria out of the war,liberated all of Serbia and Montenegro from Bulgarian and Austrohignarian occupation,and even crossed north and west into territory occupied by Austria Hungary,which already started to collapse,and Serbian army speed up the process of Austro Hungarian collapse.Later,Austria Hungary would surrender,and after that,Germany.Serbian army would liberate many territories from Austria Hungary and form Yugoslavia.German Kaiser even said that he can't believe that 60.000 Serbia soliders are ending the war.
@@adolphbismark4331 And without Bulgaria, Turkey, Austria Hungary, who is protecting wast and long southern borders of the Reich!? There was no German troops left for that new front, so surrender was inevitable!
@@adolphbismark4331 the vardar offensive from Macedonia broke the Bulgarian army and then threatened the ottomans from the west sufficiently to force them out of the war too. The coalition force, which mainly contained the Serbian army, then crossed into Serbia directly and began to march the full length of Austria Hungary, spelling the death sentence for Austria as even if it could stop the Italians it would not be able to stop an allied offensive marching straight through its heart. Once Austria Hungary capitulated and collapsed, Germany was left facing that same allied army coming up from the south. They knew that even if they somehow held the west (which they couldn't do anyway), they did not have the manpower to stop the coalition force invading Germany via Austria and Czechoslovakia.
The importance of Serbia in those final days is of course up for debate, but its role was still critical in ending 3 of the 4 central powers and ensuring that Germany was truly lost. Kaiser Wilhelm is noted as saying '62000 serbs decided the war' when he heard the news, and the day Bulgaria gave in the German command told the government that their military situation was hopeless
The war ended in 1918 with Germany surrendering in November.
Germany was hoping till summer that would change the course of the war.
For the last 10 genertetion every man on my dad's side of the family was involved in some kind of war on behalf of Serbia. In this i had 2 great grandads who were fighthting for the Chetniks and Partisan respectfuly, and both of them got a medal for the war and the one in the partisans a war pension. They even saved each other on some ocassions depending on wheather the village was held by the chetniks or partisans, lol. Just goes to show you how even people from the same house could have been on 2 different sides but still love each other.
My last name is Yugoslavian. As you can see it's difficult to pronounce in english (the L is silent) so I'm asked about it often. Less and less people know of or about Yugoslavia so I appreciate these videos that much more. Keep up the great videos!
birulkin has to be of russian or ukrainian origin. not sure about russian, but there was ukrainian minority in yugoslavia called Rusini (pl.).
@@mamutakada Rusini are not exactly Ukrainians. That is same as calling Ukrainians Russians :)
@@mamutakada and others...
By Rusini, do you mean Ruthenian?
People of the Trans Carpathian region.
Ie Muchachevo (sp?)
This region was once part of Hungarian Empire, Czechoslovakia Ukrainian SSR
Am I correct?
My Roman Catholic parents attended a Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church and the people there and history were amazing.
Birulkin doesnt sound Yugoslavian. Also, in Yugoslavia, all letters are read, theres no silent bullshittery like in some languages.
Where did you find the information about 200,000 killed partisans in Case Black? The combined Axis forces were around 120,000 and they outnumbered partisans at the rate 6:1, so it's even technically impossible that partisan casualties outnumbered Axis forces. There were around 7,000 partisan combat casualties in total (killed in action or liquidated as POWs and captured wounded fighters), and if you found some higher figures, it could be possible only if the slaughtered civilians in the battlefield zone are counted in too.
Most of his numbers are really off, like the murder toll was "250.000 - 700.000" DURING the war and not in the end. Numbers isn't his strong suit.
@@overlord165 Maybe he should hire an "Armchair Statistician"
@@NotVeryRandomDude hahaha
chetniks, partisans and other minor movements(villages) were in conflict too...so it might be from those skirmishes too.
Nedavno sam bio na Sutjesci tamo piše da je bilo 3300 i kusur žrtava ali je vodič rekao da je bilo oko 6000 žrtava
My great grandfathers were big heros during the war, one of my grandpa was in the partisan artillery brigade and helped a lot during the war, he survived soo many awful things even survived the battle for belgrade, he was given as a reward a huge plot of land where he started his farming part of life unfortunately it was hard for him because he got shot twice on the leg during the war.
I have more stories but il keep them for next time.
Say
Nice
When's next time
@@kingmuddy5898 when the time comes i guess, i have a lot but one is enough
Mt great grandfather took an AK and liberated France.He was then given a pension by the goverment and sadly died against the communists in turki.
Thank you for this amazingly transparent and accurate recounting of this difficult and complicated history.
I've been both to Užice and Memorial of the Battle of Neretva, aswell as Memorial on Sutjeska. I'm just completly amazed by the sucsess of Partizans during the time.
As someone from Ex-Yugoslavia, thank you for touching on this topic.
I agree, he covered everything with unbiased information. I would like to hear his view on the 90s too.
Yes..i thing best video on youtube..with out propaganda
Brilliant narration.
Everything is there, the content, the great voice, the cadence.
Thank you and your team for your hard work.
Your pronunciation of names of people and places is spot on. Well done!
You should do the same video about Greece. Greece also liberated itself, with the EAM-ELAS and KKE struggle.
I agree. Evkharisto poli.
Great show! Thanks for bringing this topic on these days commemorating victory in the WWII! Doing a great job, drawings are awesome, especially nailed King Peter II, Regent and Draza. All the best and keep on making great shows in time to come! Cheers!
7:09 Josip Broz Tito was a Slovene-Croatian communist, and not a Serbo-Croatian
And he used a wrong flag for croatia, and failed to mention, i mean he did kinda but still not enough, last battle in eu was between ustase and partisans in slovenia which shows how thin the line is between nazism and pure fear, and third I know balkan is dangerous but stating 250 to 750 is a half million difference... I know hes trying to keep his head above the water here but still, a bit more work and perfect but again balkan..., pretty brave that he did the video at all
Well he could not heave been Slovene-Croatian either, because he consider himself ethnic Croat. You can find many proofs of that on internet, from his own words, not from "historians".
@@DDZGRH yes but his mother senor
@@DDZGRH this does not mean he wasnt a Slovene-Croat...I could consider myself a German, yet I am still a Slovenian citizen
@@alexnovak3319 i belive you dont understand the meaning of ethnic, can I consider myself german cuz my family lives in austria?😑
Ironically exponentially more Serbs died than any other nationality in Yugoslavia...
My great grandfather was a yugoslav partisan during WW2,he was wounded on the back of his head,while trying to detach a german train,he survived the war and died in the 1980s.
Thank you for making these beautiful historical videos
Awesome video, not many people talk about this!
But I do have one complaint…
The flag you used at 12:50 is the flag of modern croatia, not the collaborationst one
Practically the same. Modern day Croats revere so called Independent State of Croatia from WW2.
@@aleksazunjic9672 No they don't lol. Curb your delusions.
@@andro7862 Crowds at Tompson's concerts tell another story :D
@@aleksazunjic9672 There are neonazis everywhere, not only in croatia
@@pasoska_kontrola These are not neo-nazis, they are simply mainstream Croatian public. Usual everyday crowd, but they support so called Independent State of Croatia from WW2.
Great video, great photos behind you. :)
6:23 love how you made Hitler stand in the great Gatsby pose. Animation is amazing. Keep the content rolling.
I would love to see a video about the EOKA struggle in Cyprus during 1955-1959 period 🤙🏻
5:25 I like how the ping times here are accurate lol
Oooh, I love that someone noticed!
I am so happy you did this. People forget this.
An interesting side story to this is that the royalist forces aided downed Allied pilots that were completing bombing runs on Ploesti in neighboring Romania. Eventually, the OSS staged a massive airlift to rescue the pilots out of Yugoslavia.
There's a statue of Draza Mihailovic in Chicago because he helped those pilots
@@heasne1738 Yes. OSS Misson: "Halyard" . Soldiers of Yugoslav Army in Fatherland under command of Army General Draza Mihailovic rescue more than 500 US pilots out of Yugoslavia.
In 1946. Tito`s Court sentenced to death Gen. Mihailovic because he was collaborator (?!).
You chetniks are something else, what did the USA give you in 1999 bomed the hell out of Serbia and Montenegro thats how much the americans cared for us slavs the same goes with Draza serbs in NDH were dying while he was killing civilians in bosnia and herzegovina but he “cared” for serbs
The Forgotten 500 by Gregory A. Freeman
@@heasne1738 I didnt know that. Thats very cool!
The armchair historian makes the most amazing content, he's not only a historian, he's also a memelord
200.000 slaughtered after battle of Sutjeska? Where in the hell did you get that number? There were several thousand killed after the battle (mainly those left behind - wounded and villagers), but not 200.000...
During the WHOLE war, in B&H around 180k people were killed so the 200 000 number doesn't factually make sense.
I rewatched the video 3-4 times and it's full of errors like this. It needs a definite rewrite.
@@ThrowawayModeller the video is a fuul of serbians faschist propaganda..
@@ThrowawayModeller It's anti-axis hysteria. There were no good guys in WW2, just really bad guys (western allies) and worse guys (Nazis and communists).
@@ThrowawayModeller more than 350 000 Bosnian Serb civilians were victims of genocide furing ww2 so your numbers are off.
Just one note* His name was Josip, his surname was Broz, and Tito was his nickname
Two of my Great Grandfathers were fighting on different sides, one was enlisted in SDK (which worked together with the german army against communists). and one was in the Yugoslav partisans, and at the end of the war, when they found out the SDK grandfather was working with the germans, he was imprisoned, by then my other grandfather (now a captain in The Department for People's Protection or OZNA) had to get him out by faking some documents about how he wasn't working with the germans.
In-laws together strong.
@@onba7726 they were close after the war, like best friends.
Damn SDK is really the most embarrassing thing from Serbian side...
lol
my great grandpa was an ustasha and the other one was a partisan
Great video, very educational! I would only like to add one thing. Although the USSR and Western Allies showed support for the Partisans, both mostly did it out of a hope to hold great influence in the post-war Yugoslavia. Soviet Union tried to claim it is helping Tito subjugate it's ''strong borgeoisie'' and the British we're willing to use the King and exiled government as long as they could to gain some leverage. Churchill was actually very upset when the Partisans liberated Trst/Trieste and Gorica/Gorizia before they could arrive there. The west used the unsettled post-war western border of Yugoslavia with Italy to pressure Yugoslavia in an alliance with them. It was only in the 50's when both sides of the Cold War developed good relations with the SFRY.
But all in all the aid and support which the Partisans recieved from Allies was still very helpful. The video very good and I learned many new facts
I am from Montwnegro, and my great grand father was a Montenegrin Partizan. He was known for being kind to every one, even saving desperate wounded Četniks. He would get visited by the Montenegrin president after the War
Nice accuracy on the rakija glass
Armchair historian is the gold standard on UA-cam for history
I think that title could go to Potential History or LazerPig.
The chat at the start is so accurate
Edit: I screenshotted your NFT
China: our contributions in ww2 are the most ignored
India: no ours are
Burma: what about ours
Yugoslavia:
gigachad Yugoslavians don't give a shite about recognitions
They all were unrecognized
Philippines: *rotting underwater*
Tbh issue with Yugoslavia and lack of recognition comes from what i would describe "wild west" nature of front which combined war of liberation, revolutionary war and civil war (on both ethnic and ideological lines) which leads to extreme complexity which is hard to understand even for natives.
actually the Yugoslav resistance movement is well known in China.
The full example of “teamwork makes the dreamwork”
Well done job. Only a little detail. Tito was a communist alias, like Lenin or Stalin. Real name was Josip Broz, born in Kumrovec near Zagreb.
Its a nickname that he had since childhood.
Tito wasn’t exactly a communist either. He would even become a market socialist rather than a full communist.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 no one is a full communist that stuff is a fantasy
Thank you sir for shining light on this part of history that all of us from the former Yugoslavia can be very proud of. One thing not mentioned is that Drvar operation was under command of Otto Scorzeny who liberated Mussolini and was an interesting character to say the least :))) I don't need to say much about Tito we know how great a leader he was during the difficult times. One interesting thing about him is that he spoke English, German and Russian and was a charmer. Tito had a young secretary 30 years younger as a lover during the whole war, she died unfortunately at the very end of tuberculosis probably because of all the hardship they went together with partisans.
Otto Scorzeny was offered command for that operation, but he declined it, since he didn’t have part in operational planning and the plan in place was faulty. His role was more of advisory.
It was Rendulić, an ethnic White Croat from Austria
My father told me stories of how the men in the village would to go door to door gathering to go fight and at times there would be one rifle for five men
Yugoslvs and Soviets were the true heroes of WW2,,what you guys did is unthinkable. 😅😅Nothing would shock German soldiers than to see a gunless partisan charging towards their line,,that kind of will, patriotism, courage and selflessness is scary
Chokanjce for rakija on 7:11 made me laugh. Good detail!
The New Zealand 2nd Division actually had a six week confrontation with the Partisans for control of Trieste at the end of the war. Many Croats and some Royalists could not go back and ended up in Auckland.
Don't forget your hazmat suit, average balkan comment section ahead.
Yes! I have been waiting so long for this! We need more in-depth videos about Yugoslavia
Its pretty awesome having access to all this extra information to the second world War. I wouldn't be hearing about any of this otherwise as I don't put the time into reading books about these smaller parts of the war. These videos are done so well
Denver, Colorado. Perfectly said. 👌
Ikr
Its impressive and heroic that Yugoslavia independently fought the Germans and liberated itself in WW2
Greetings from Užice. I like your videos.
You know the video is good when the "Most Replayed" Part is only replayed because of the sponsor.
Brilliant! Well done, I did not expect that someone who is not from this area would handle such a complicated topic so well. Bearing in mind that even most people from the former Yugoslavia do not know how to draw the right conclusions. It should be noted that the British intelligence service and diplomacy had a great influence on the military coup, which annulled the alliance of Yugoslavia and the Axis powers. Also, the German campaign in the Balkans in the spring of 1941 prevented Germany from attacking the Soviet Union a few months earlier, and therefore during the Barbarossa campaign they failed to reach Moscow before the start of the rainy season and winter.
" It should be noted that the British intelligence service and diplomacy had a great influence on the military coup, which annulled the alliance of Yugoslavia..."
In other words the British paid some corrupt Serbian generals to get rid of Serb Prince Paul and the Yugoslav govt in Belgrade. The result was the invasion of Yugoslavia by Nazi Germany, a Yugoslav civil war and a million dead Yugoslav citizens.
"Also, the German campaign in the Balkans in the spring of 1941 prevented Germany from attacking the Soviet Union a few months earlier"
Nazi Germany attacked Yugoslavia in April 1941. Nazi Germany had to wait for late June to invade the Soviet Union because of the heavy spring rains in the Soviet Union which turned their dirt roads into mud ( in Russian its known as the "Rasputitsa "). So the invasion of Yugoslavia never made any difference to "Operation Barbarossa" the invasion of the Soviet Union.
So many memes & references in this video, keep it up its funny as hell.
As always, great work. I have a minor correction though: Tito was Croat-Slovene, not Serbo-Croat.
Source?
@@Linneom it was revealed to me in a dream
@@Linneom Seriously?
@@datboi7893 Hmm according to the “voices in my head” he was half Chinese
@@Linneom lies, according to the homeless man he was hungary
I love your poster behind you! To translate, ,,Serbia will not calm down" !
Correction "Serbia cannot be calmed down"
i am slovenian and i approve this message
6:26 is that a great gatsby reference?
I am so happy that you and your team finally made a video that touches upon Yugoslavia! Yugoslavia is probably the most underrated country in the Second World War and its almost criminal they are never talked about in mainstream war studies. Again thank you for doing this.
i think its cuz they sadly do not exist anymore
@@Thejghostodst but people who lived there still do :)
@@djubrestajic6021 as do people who fought in ww2
@@gelipterzg but arent the ppl who fought in ww2 mostly dead now?
@@Thejghostodst you'd be surprised :D sure they're pretty old folks, but i personally know quite a bunch alive and kicking. keep in mind people joined the partisan movement as kids back then.
Fun fact:
Tito was probably considered the craziest mother trucker in the Eastern Bloc after WW1. He had massive balls and did not care. Stalin tried to kill him in many ways but he survived, after surviving many close calls with death, and the many KGB agents that were caught; He ended up sending Stalin a letter stating. "Stop sending people to kill me. We’ve already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle…If you don’t stop sending killers, I’ll send one to Moscow, and I won’t have to send another."
Also Stalin sent him a jar full of rice or something in that nature and stated: "Try to count us all."
Tito sent back a jar full of the hottest peppers and stated: "Try to handle us all."
I believe thats what they said or something in that nature.
Crazy son of a gun I tell ya.
Partisans are very underrated, I am happy to see someone talk about them! The video is well done!
Chad Yugoslavian and Belorussian partisans vs Virgin French Resistance
The Polish Partisans also achieved just as much success but without any outside support as it found itself stuck between the Brutal NKVD Army of Rokossovsky in Vilnius. 2 Million Partisans were in the Armija Krajowa (AK). Im glad for you making videos on unheard groups and you should make one about eastern Poland! Keep up the work! 🇵🇱
Yeah Poland was just in the worst spot for self-liberation. Did all the work but too suppressed
I'm so proud of my homeland... the history of Yugoslavia is a really interesting topic to me.
and bloody
What homeland,to be precise? Yugoslavia does not in fact, exist anymore.
@@biglez32420 a country that was part of Yugoslavia
Ex Yugoslav countries history is more complicated and interesting then any other, change my mind
@@mingo7929 east asian countries