A word of thanks to the many who have viewed this video, recommended it to fellow guitarists, and shared comments and observations. I was playing this music when it was new and returned to it as my "roots" in the months before this video was created in 2014. The video itself was a quickly and casually made one -- just put forth on the fly to share the things I was discovering about how to get "that sound" that I knew so well, but with modern and easily found gear. That so many have found it helpful thrills me -- as do other's comments about the tricks and tools they have learned to use to make the music we so love. So, thanks again. And do, please, subscribe to my channel to see the other surf videos I have made and shared. ua-cam.com/channels/HNVzMRX7FIdpFV8c5TwGSg.html
Hi Don! LOVE that Jaguar! With that said; If my memory serves me right...On the original version of PIPELINE, there isn't any reverb on the lead guitar, nor on the electric keyboard track. It's only the on the 1st Rhythm guitar track. I use the term 'track' only to describe the instruments as the original cuts were made on an AMPEX multi-track, located in the 8' X 10' back room (Studio) at Wetzel's Downey Record Store:13117 Lakewood Blvd, in Downey CA (where many of us started our early recording days). Oh! Along with the Fender (spring) Reverb, we also used a Dynacord Echocord tape loop machine for tape reverb & echo effect. Just the same, Thumbs Up on your video!
Thanks for sharing that inside information. "Pipeline" was truly unique, and wonderfully so IMO. I always loved that the lead guitar -- so intrinsic to the song -- was ever slow slightly buried in the mix, balancing it with that other intrinsic quality: The texture of the whole. And indeed creating just that: a "whole." I know of no other song that so effectively did that. Putting the emphasis on just that -- the song. In doing so Pipeline left an indelible mark on the music of the era! :)
I have a lil Peavey Vypyr 15watt & I got a Tele & I dialed in a "surf" tone that was Spot on Verb & Slapback delay & a super fast delay repeat. with the Twin setting. That was $89 amp new. 32bit SHARC card same one used in the High dollar modeling amps.
Great! You have discovered on of life's hidden secrets.. How good the new modeling amps are . Yes, Including some of the smaller less costly one. Enjoy!!! :)
A few guys had a secret weapon though ... an Ecco-Fonic tube tape delay. They were avail before the Fender Reverb tanks were. Who used them in the mid to late 1950's ? How about Elvis's Scotty Moore, Joe Maphis, Chet Atkins, Larry Collins of the Collins Kids, AND Hank Garland on Patsy Cline's "I fall to pieces" on the opening riff !!! In the mid 1950's Echo-Sonic amps came on the market. They had a tube delay built into the amps... but they were expensive $ 500 !! So hardly any were built. Then in 1958 the stand alone version became avail .. called the Ecco-Fonic. Then lots of the serious studio guys started using them. Check out these links ! ua-cam.com/video/1X9ilF1wiQ4/v-deo.html OR www.guitarplayer.com/miscellaneous/1139/ecco-fonic-tape-echo2/15695
Thanks for the in-depth explanation. To those who think he talked too much: Knowning how something is done is only part of the process; knowing why is just as important. This explanation explains the "why" very well. It gives you the insight that you can use to build on for making your own sounds in the future. This man found a valuable process and was willing to share it. He could have just created a boutique, $400 pedal that does the same thing, and made you pay for it instead of giving the knowledge away for free.
I'm not really into Surf Rock but I kinda like it, so I watched a video a while ago where some guy explained that the only pedal that truly can emulate 'the drip' is some Boss pedal that emulates a Fender reverb tank, it even has the Fender logo on it but it's discontinued and some people actually pay hundreds of bucks for it. Now just recently I bought some cheap reverb pedal, the brand is called MOSKY (or MO SKY) Music Audio, it's one of those Micro sized pedals, the model is just called Spring Reverb, it's pink/lavender and has some cheap, odd graphic on top that looks like a bar code but it's probably supposed to be a spring. By coincidence I noticed that when you crank the 'mix' and turn the 'dwell' down it actually produces a quite decent drip sound ...and it was less than 30 Euro on Amazon!
Never thought I’d see Jack Nicolson giving me guitar lessons 😂 just messing with ya man but this was a WONDERFUL breakdown of how to get that surf sound with modern equipment
I was Dick Dale’s Roadie 78’-90’. Strings Ernie Ball 14, 2 16s, 38, 48 and 58. Used 60 when he was younger. UA-cam Messer Chups have the old reverb drip sound perfect. Good luck!
Very educational video! Its interesting how all the pieces of the puzzle are put together throughout the video, and how the drip sound is greater than the sum of its parts.
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH DON!!!! FOR REVERB/SURF MUSIC LOVERS, THIS QUEST FOR PURE REVERB, AND GREAT TONE, IS VITAL!!! ....THAT "JAGUAR" IS AWESOME!!!!.....
Thanks for uploading this, it's really useful. You're right in pointing out that the recording process - valve mics, analogue preamps, analogue outboard, tape machines, the tape itself, mastering to vinyl etc all colour the sound hugely. Plus, the instruments and amps they used were different. However, you prove you can get pretty close by using your ears and what's available to you. I'm fiddling around with some baritone surf music at the moment, so enjoying emersing myself in the whole thing. Jack Nitschze, Duane Eddy etc. I'd been using spring verb and tremelo, but I'll try your slap echo and modeling suggestions. Thanks again for the upload.
The echo can be simply done with delay pedal. Set time to 0.3-0.5 sec and and quick decay. Plus some spring reverb. You don't need expensive gear at all.
I've piddled around with the guitar over the years but I just can't get my fingers to work. However, even not being a musician and certainly not having a good ear for this, I surely appreciate the discourse on how to create this beloved classic sound.
I'm glad you enjoyed watching it Richard. And I hope it encourages you to keep working at and enjoying that guitar. The personal pleasure making music can give is its greatest gift. Much more so I think that being "good" in the eyes and ears of others. Have fun. Enjoy! :)
He doesn't mention Dick Dale who invented the music from his love of surfing and listening to the sound of surfing waves, working with Leo Fender to come up with the guitars, the big stacked amps because he used to play hard and fast and make the amps go up in smoke and paved the way for heavy metal.
Get a stand alone Fender reverb unit. That's the key. Along with a Fender Bassman box. I was in an LA surf garage band in the mid 60's and our lead was Dick Dales nephew and we nailed it.
+Gus Baldwin Yes, I have a lovely TR. And sitting next to it a `63 two-piece Tremolux. Both are used. Is it odd that I play through a DuoVerb when playing surf? Perhaps. It is certainly atypical. Some say we should trust conventional opinion. I prefer to put confidence in my ears and 50+ years of personal experience. In ad speak "YMMV." :D
HI Don,I built a Fender 6G15 "stand-alone" reverb unit...the tank I got was made in the USA before they went overseas to have them built...sounds great. I also built an amp w/5F2 circuit but reverted to the 5F2A and built it in a tweed cabinet...ditto for the 6G15.......HANG TEN !
Yeah but you do realize the reason why he's playing the Line 6 is because it has multiple amps in one box...Line 6 is not bad for clean sounds, it's actually really good. The reason why everyone hates Line 6 is because of their high gain tones (From the past anyway) -- the latest stuff, Helix, etc. is actually very good across the board.
Don't know if I'll ever get to play this, but the fact that this guy would take the time to explain and show his interest in this style is incredible. Thanks
I've played since '94 but just now getting into pedals and trying to understand them. I listen to all kinds of music from Punk, Rockabilly, Surf, Thrash, old Metal, etc, etc. My love for 60's surf- Dick Dale came from growing up on The Ramones, which I'm saving up for a Marshall JCM800 to go with my Marshall Cab to play Ramones tunes. I've always just plugged straight in the amp or with a overdrive but now being older, and actually really able to buy head now, I'm really working on my amps, guitars, basses plus pedals and processors for both as Im wanting to really get all the different sounds I've always loved. You Sir are a genius. Very helpful video! I also plan to get a Fender Twin Reverb to be able to play The Sex Pistols and The Cramps where I just change guitars and swap an overdrive with a fuzz. Is the Standard Fender Twin Reverb loaded with a spring reverb? Can I rely on the Fenders reverb for drip? Or need a separate Reverb pedal that's better? Sorry for the mini book. I'm just so excited to finally be getting all the gear I want and get so inspired by vids like yours. Thank You! Edited- rewatched your vid and noticed you mentioned the Fender modeled Reverb pedal......I also can't figure out which delay pedal you used in this video? Also, do you think the modeled spring Reverb pedal would be better for Rockabilly rather than using the Reverb on the Fender Twin? If so, that'll be 2 genres I could pull off using it. I found a few on ebay. I can use any info you can give me. Thanks
I think if you just turn up the spring verb mix and crank the dwell, you're way closer than adding delay. Dick Dale cranked the hell out of it, and he dripped all over the place. Also a much, much bigger cab would add so much body to the verb sound. I also think a Strat is an equally excellent guitar choice. The tremolo is a cool touch (authentic too), but doesn't really add to the verb.
Its been said (by Shakespeare) that "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." I've found names and brand judgments an easy trap. Not absolutely useless, but often limiting and sometimes even misleading. I personally try to judge things (yes, and people too) by what they themselves actually do, not a preconception based on a name. Does the Duoverb sound good? It sure does to me! In fact I sold several classic amps (Fender and Marshall) after getting the DV. You, of course, are free to make your own judgment. But I'd suggest doing so with your ears, not a preconception about a brand. :)
I've watched this video several times to help me in getting the "drip" sound. Slap-back echo was a great tip. The best, however, was the tremolo suggestion. Mimicking the ocean. Awesome suggestion for such an elusive tone. I'd like to see more videos like this from you, if you have the time. You do a very good job of explaining things step by step.
I'm glad you found this helpful. I'm no longer generally posting on UA-cam because thy make me watch long ads now even to comment on stuff I, myself, have posted. -Something I will not do.
Paul Ecoli Canyon alone can make drip? I just ordered it, partially because I want to use slapback mode with my reverb unit to get right sound, but does Canyon's reverb mode do this alone?
It does actually. That's what I was referring to when I originally commented. ALL the modes on the canyon are amazing, but the reverb delay will definitely get you there.I won't lie though. There's a lot of trial and error with this pedal. Getting to know the secondary button is a big one for this.
I can never remember. I set it on the fly. ua-cam.com/video/kPvWDj0wdRg/v-deo.html Bill Rupert gives a great demo of this pedal though. If I recall correctly, he shows how to do it.
If anyone has a boss katana amp, you can get a great drip sound by downloading spring reverb, and using a delay set to the highest speed possible (press the little grey button as fast as you can)
Good tutorial, thanks. I have no idea why I watched it, but you broke down the drip echo nicely. If I ever want to play surf guitar, I'll use these tricks. Thanks!
Love the Jag! I got a '62 AV Reissue. It was my first big guitar purchase in my teens. Saved most of my money for a good year or so. Fabulous guitars, great for surf!
Don, you are right on. I have the 63 fender reverb pedal along with a fender delay. I just added a bit of tremolo to all my surf songs and it sounds terrific. Great idea!
Well some of us go back to when reverb was "new" and we never heard it pronounced as it is today. Never even thought about it. My first reverb amp was a then brand new Fender Vibroverb. We pronounced that Vi-bro-VERB. Accent on the last syllable. Same with the Ampeg Reverberocket. We pronounced that Re-VERB-erocket, not RE-verb-erocket. Did we mispronounce those amp's names? And thus "reVERB." May indeed be "wrong," but then again I've heard so, so many ask for a Lowenbrau saying LOW-in-BROW when what they should have said is LOYV-in-Broy. And, wonder of wonders, yet they still got the beer.. ;-) ua-cam.com/video/zZ3fjQa5Hls/v-deo.html
Considering the derivation from the word reverberation, Don Sucher is correctly pronouncing it and we are not. I would not say REE-verbaration, but re-VERB-eration. Somebody mispronounced it and everyone picked up on it. It's like people say "I could care less" when they really mean "I could NOT care less."
Thanks for your help. I'm getting very close using the following set up: Fender 60th Anniversary Classic Player Stratocaster , Rockburn delay (£29 new) ,Joyo Tremolo (£30 new) into used Marshall JTM30 with it's spring reverb close max. The little Marshall has 5881 valves (tubes) like on old Fenders which helps it's cleanliness :-)
one of the best videos of youtube?congratulations,you are the best teacher of surf sound that i see in years,greetings from MIRAMAR BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA!!!!!
AWESOME, DON !! I can tell you're an AUDIOPHILE , like me . I love learning about the "elements" of classic analog recordings , tube amps & effects , guitars etc ..... Keep the "SOUL" of modern post modern music alive !
I just recently bought myself a brand-new Boss Katana 100 Mk II 1 X 12 digital modelling guitar amp, going to see if I can recreate the classic 60's Surf Rock tone on it and see how it sounds compared to what you're getting in this video.
Thank you Don. Ive had the reverb pedal for a while now and it sounded pretty good but adding the slight tremolo made a really nice difference. Like it much better now. Thanks again.
1966 Vibrolux reverb here... second owner since 1968. Bright switch on, reverb 6, it becomes a time machine to take back to WET. The old springs and their driver coils in the reverb do that slap echo drip.
Thank you so much! I've always wanted to know what effects to use to get that awesome surf music sound. I also wanna say thanks for showing and explaining each effect! This video was put together very well!!!
TB, others have pointed that out as well. Sorry to rock your brain. "Back when" he never heard it said at all. It was simply something new -- first on stand alone units, then built it to amps. (My first was Fender's first such -- the 1964 "Vibroverb".) And the accent as that name was pronounced, as with Ampeg's "Reverbebrocket" was always on the 'verb' part. Perhaps that is how the pronunciation habit formed. Alas, as with a person with a regional accent, I don't hear the mispronunciation myself. But it does seem to disturb others.
Don Sucher - All my life, people have asked me where I got my accent - where I'm from. I'm just an (old now) boy from California, and for the most part it's Californians who ask. They say I sound like I come from somewhere else - where God only knows - but naturally I can't hear it. So I can relate. Fortunately, I found a woman who thinks my voice and speech are sexy as hell - so I'll take it. I guess that's why ice cream comes in different flavors. All the best to you - and thanks for the fine video...
I like this video not only because of the informations about the surfsound but also by the way of your teaching in the best meaning of the word - encouriging your 'students' to think on oneself from step to step that makes it easy to hit the target at the end of the line - talent by nature or a teacher for years thats the last mystery that reamains ;) Thanks a lot.
Thank you for those kind and encouraging words Tom. This was my first video. I basically turned on the iPhone camera and simply started talking. Yeah, I knew WHAT I wanted to share -- and I suppose that enthusiasm for the material comes through -- but I wish, now that it has sort'a established itself "out there" that I'd prepared my presentation a bit. The word slips and redundancies are a bit embarrassing. Oh well, 'tis life. And words like your are much appreciated! :)
Wow. Great video, I really learned a lot. You're a great guitarist, and a good teacher as well. Some people can be one or the other-you're both my friend. Keep shredding!
Great tutorial! I’ve been achieving a similar aesthetic with a Gretsch hollowbody through a Vox ac15 with on-board reverb / tremolo, and a delay pedal (the EHX canyon to be specific)
What I also find interesting (as a non-player) is Don's technique. His string damping means the effects take over after the attack to make a quite distinct sustain sound. It's two sounds in one.
You got the essence of drip and much closer than I've ever gotten. That slapback makes a huge difference. I wish you would've also shown the Tremelo by itself to hear that setting but great and informative vid. Thanks!
Thanks for this video mate! What a beautiful Jag, my favorite guitar Fender ever made. Believe it or not I never played surf music on my Jaguar until I saw this and you’ve inspired me.
I'm not into surf per se, but was acquainted with a lot of it when a kid. Being a guitarist who owns an early 70's, Teisco built, Japanese Jag knock-off (which was probably designed for this kind of music), I find this quest for 'drip' interesting. It's amazing how we guitarists are always in the search for that perfect tone we either grew up with, or hear in our heads. Very cool video. Peace.
Danelectro makes a really cool spring reverb pedal called the ‘Spring King,’ it’s got a full spring reverb tank built in so it’s the real deal! I bet you could get a hell of a drip from it. Plus it’s got a kick pad so you get the sounds of hitting the springs! King Gizzard used one on their track “Hot Wax” for those crazy spring hits. Great video by the way! I promise I won’t make a joke on your pronunciation of reverb, lol.
Thanks Don! I used your advice to model me some Surf with a Fender GT40 Modelling Amp. My favorite model is a Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb, Stereo Tape Delay, and Vintage Tremolo. This is matching fine with my Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar. I'm dripping surf!
Love how excited he is to be letting us in on this. Seriously just subscribed for the enthusiasm and knowledge he has. Haven’t even watched a second video.
I have an Azor mini analog delay that can give me a decent slap back that combined with the spring reverb on my Peavy Bandit 112 Red Stripe gives me bit of drip. Not authentic by any means, but decent.
Thank you so much for this, it was extremely helpful :) the slapback is fantastic and so simple. The care in adding just a bit of each effect is the mark of a pro, it totally came together with the light tremolo at the end!
@@donsucher5412 I've got this downloaded on my playlist plus it's the first video with my surf tunes. You remind me of my Best Bud from high schools Dad I love like my own
@@johnhareiel5118 In truth, John, I've found myself going back and forth in my preference. Leo Fender listened to a host of surf guitarists as he made redesigns in the Jazzmaster to creat the Jaguar. A brighter, more percussive sound via both the pickups and the shorter scale. The added tone control that removes the lower end. Even the rarely used mute was put there for them. But in the end I think that the type of guitar is less important than the playing technique, or for that matter, the amplifer and it's settings. The change is scale (i.e., neck length) works for some people, but not for others who prefer the Jazzmaster's traditionak Fender scale neck. I do, though, love having the Jag's 22nd fret! :)
@@donsucher5412 thanx for the info. Now just trying to find folk here in MS that would play Surf Rock with me lol. It's the same thing trying to do a Punk Band here (Ramones- Sex Pistols- The Cramps). Everyone wants to play Skynyrd here. You ever listen to The Cramps?
The newer fender vaporizer gets perfect drip with no added effects.... also the fender super reverb.. reissue or an original gets perfect drip with no added effects. There may be others but I have only have experience with the ones I mentioned. I think some of the difference is units that have tube driven spring reverb. The vaporizer you can turn the tone and volume knobs all the way down and turn the reverb all the way up you actually play straight through reverb and it has the best liquid drip I’ve ever heard.
I never heard the real "drip" sound once in this video. Only one in ten Hammond reverb units had it. I worked on hundreds of them during my amp shop years. Note: Fender wasn't the only company to use Hammond reverb spring units.
In the '60s I used flat wound strings through a Twin or Super reverb with the Reverb all the way up then palm mute and I got that super cool surf snap back and it worked with a Firebird as well as a Strat or Jazzmaster.
Hi Don, I have to wonder (not the bread) how many of these internet experts (a drip under pressure) could actually pass the Pepsi taste test? ...they think that talking trash about modeling amps (Line6) makes them appear to have talent and high standards, desperate to compensate for a lack of both as well as having achieved nothing as a human being. So, let's see if they can actually tell the difference. I love my Fender Mustang, I have no need to try to impress others with expensive toys, 68 Les Pauls, pre CBS Strats, blaw blaw blaw... what matters is it works, and that you are having fun.
Most of us, at least at some point in our life, just accept what is commonly accepted and acho it. There is a "truth" about tube tone. But modern amps DO get that sound -- an amazing variety of sounds -- with out them. And some of these amps are amazingly moderate in price. I know one younger blues player who when he bought his "dramm" gigging amp chose a very modern (but not inexpensive) solid state model. For its tone along with lightness and reliability. Use what you love! And yes, have fun doing so. :)
A few words to those who question my use of a "Line 6" amplifier in this video... Few players know about these amps. Fewer yet have actually played through one. But the DuoVerb is not your "average" Line 6 amplifier. It was Line 6's attempt to go 'boutique' -- to spare no expense and thus break into the rarefied amplifier market. In the market it failed. The DuoVerb was, simply put, way to pricey to sell while be called a "Line 6." But in every other way it was, and remains, an extraordinary success. Quality of build. Sound. Design. Convenience. A true players amplifier. One whose capabilities far exceed what most -- even good and experienced -- guitarists will ever likely need. I saw the DuoVerb when they were just released and reacted as I think did many guitarists. "I'd love to own one of those, but at that price? Nope. Never!" But when, just a couple of years later, the company admitted the DuoVerb's failure in the marketplace and closed them out for a fraction of their original price I jumped. And when, a short time later, its matching speaker became available, I snagged one of those too. And I have never regretted it. The DuoVerb had a lot of computer speed and power. Far more than other modeling amps of its day. (Today some less expensive amps likely have such, and some perhaps even more. But not then. Back then such was just too costly.) With the DuoVerb Line 6 also addressed another thing that turned off many players-- especially ones who could afford such a costly amp. It was given a "normal" interface. No menus. No tiny LCD screens. Just comfortable and familiar knobs. And as an added plus the DuoVerb's knobs did, and reacted, just as did those on the specific amp being modeled. To all the above add its name claim to fame: DUO Verb. Yes, its two-amps-at-once capability. Each of the two with its own controls. Two amps that can remain separate, either stereo/side by side, over and under, or, if the user refers, may be blended into one unique sounding amp. As with any modeling amp one needs to learn how to get the most out of a DuoVerb. And few players, it seemed, were willing to do that. But those that did were rewarded with a sound, a feel and a range of tones so great that even some sparkling classic Fenders may sit unused. As mine often do. As the old saw goes "don't knock it until you try it." No, really, don't. :)
These Amps that "Mimic" other amps have some killer Reverb in then and highly adjustable to customize your sound. Been using a Johnson Marquis 120 for 20 years ,touring, and studio, and I am still using it today.
Nice. I recently bought a fender passport mini amp to practice on with my squire jag and one of the presets that it had on the amp was the classic surf reverb. Really close to the tone and you can also add post fx on to the preset through the fender fuse software and also create a whole different preset to save on the amp through the usb cable provided. I also found that using a compressor can also amplify it louder since it really works with a jag well
Great Video, thanks for sharing. Need to check out that Line 6 amp soon, sounds great. Been looking online for awhile for the Boss FRV-1 ( discontinued )that you use in this video, but they are quite expensive used, anywhere from $150-$200. So I purchased the Danelectro Spring King and Boss TR-2 Tremolo and now have a great 60's surf sound. That setup works with most single coil pickups that you will find on a Jauguar, Jazzmaster, Strat or Tele. I can get this sound through a Marshall amp as well. Keep up the great work, that Jaguar is stunning !!
Glad you enjoyed it Steve! Yeah, FRV-1 are selling at a premium. But I, too, have heard good things about that Dano! So glad to hear it is working for you! :)
A word of thanks to the many who have viewed this video, recommended it to fellow guitarists, and shared comments and observations.
I was playing this music when it was new and returned to it as my "roots" in the months before this video was created in 2014.
The video itself was a quickly and casually made one -- just put forth on the fly to share the things I was discovering about how to get "that sound" that I knew so well, but with modern and easily found gear. That so many have found it helpful thrills me -- as do other's comments about the tricks and tools they have learned to use to make the music we so love.
So, thanks again. And do, please, subscribe to my channel to see the other surf videos I have made and shared.
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Hi Don! LOVE that Jaguar! With that said; If my memory serves me right...On the original version of PIPELINE, there isn't any reverb on the lead guitar, nor on the electric keyboard track. It's only the on the 1st Rhythm guitar track. I use the term 'track' only to describe the instruments as the original cuts were made on an AMPEX multi-track, located in the 8' X 10' back room (Studio) at Wetzel's Downey Record Store:13117 Lakewood Blvd, in Downey CA (where many of us started our early recording days).
Oh! Along with the Fender (spring) Reverb, we also used a Dynacord Echocord tape loop machine for tape reverb & echo effect.
Just the same, Thumbs Up on your video!
Thanks for sharing that inside information.
"Pipeline" was truly unique, and wonderfully so IMO.
I always loved that the lead guitar -- so intrinsic to the song -- was ever slow slightly buried in the mix, balancing it with that other intrinsic quality: The texture of the whole. And indeed creating just that: a "whole."
I know of no other song that so effectively did that. Putting the emphasis on just that -- the song.
In doing so Pipeline left an indelible mark on the music of the era! :)
I have a lil Peavey Vypyr 15watt & I got a Tele & I dialed in a "surf" tone that was Spot on Verb & Slapback delay & a super fast delay repeat. with the Twin setting. That was $89 amp new. 32bit SHARC card same one used in the High dollar modeling amps.
Great! You have discovered on of life's hidden secrets.. How good the new modeling amps are . Yes, Including some of the smaller less costly one. Enjoy!!! :)
A few guys had a secret weapon though ... an Ecco-Fonic tube tape delay. They were avail before the Fender Reverb tanks were. Who used them in the mid to late 1950's ? How about Elvis's Scotty Moore, Joe Maphis, Chet Atkins, Larry Collins of the Collins Kids, AND Hank Garland on Patsy Cline's "I fall to pieces" on the opening riff !!! In the mid 1950's Echo-Sonic amps came on the market. They had a tube delay built into the amps... but they were expensive $ 500 !! So hardly any were built. Then in 1958 the stand alone version became avail .. called the Ecco-Fonic. Then lots of the serious studio guys started using them. Check out these links ! ua-cam.com/video/1X9ilF1wiQ4/v-deo.html OR www.guitarplayer.com/miscellaneous/1139/ecco-fonic-tape-echo2/15695
Jack nicolson on guitar
I'll see your Jack Nicholson and raise you one Back to the Future.
I'll trade you a working slap back echo pedal for a working Flux Capacitor!
That's good. Very good!
Jack Nicholson and Paul giamatti fused together.
Haha
I didn't know jack Nicholson played guitar
Propane and propane accessories there it is, wasnt the only one thinking it
He only gets this type of axe these days...
Propane and propane damn I was gonnanmake that joke lmao
Propane and propane accessories Nice Exchange ;)
He did back in '68 in "Psych-Out"
Thanks for the in-depth explanation. To those who think he talked too much: Knowning how something is done is only part of the process; knowing why is just as important. This explanation explains the "why" very well. It gives you the insight that you can use to build on for making your own sounds in the future. This man found a valuable process and was willing to share it. He could have just created a boutique, $400 pedal that does the same thing, and made you pay for it instead of giving the knowledge away for free.
of course i know nothing of the genre or sound, but i love this video lol. old dude who loves guitar and informs the shit out of me 10/10.
LOL! :D
I'm not really into Surf Rock but I kinda like it, so I watched a video a while ago where some guy explained that the only pedal that truly can emulate 'the drip' is some Boss pedal that emulates a Fender reverb tank, it even has the Fender logo on it but it's discontinued and some people actually pay hundreds of bucks for it.
Now just recently I bought some cheap reverb pedal, the brand is called MOSKY (or MO SKY) Music Audio, it's one of those Micro sized pedals, the model is just called Spring Reverb, it's pink/lavender and has some cheap, odd graphic on top that looks like a bar code but it's probably supposed to be a spring.
By coincidence I noticed that when you crank the 'mix' and turn the 'dwell' down it actually produces a quite decent drip sound ...and it was less than 30 Euro on Amazon!
Never thought I’d see Jack Nicolson giving me guitar lessons 😂 just messing with ya man but this was a WONDERFUL breakdown of how to get that surf sound with modern equipment
I was Dick Dale’s Roadie 78’-90’. Strings Ernie Ball 14, 2 16s, 38, 48 and 58. Used 60 when he was younger. UA-cam Messer Chups have the old reverb drip sound perfect. Good luck!
Gotta add some r'verb to impress m'lady
At 6:56, the happiest man ever seen on the internet.
enjoyed your enthusiam. "whats missing!?". id say you nailed the drip. thanks for the video
Very educational video! Its interesting how all the pieces of the puzzle are put together throughout the video, and how the drip sound is greater than the sum of its parts.
"rehverb"
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH DON!!!! FOR REVERB/SURF MUSIC LOVERS, THIS QUEST FOR PURE REVERB, AND GREAT TONE, IS VITAL!!!
....THAT "JAGUAR" IS AWESOME!!!!.....
Thanks for uploading this, it's really useful.
You're right in pointing out that the recording process - valve mics, analogue preamps, analogue outboard, tape machines, the tape itself, mastering to vinyl etc all colour the sound hugely. Plus, the instruments and amps they used were different.
However, you prove you can get pretty close by using your ears and what's available to you.
I'm fiddling around with some baritone surf music at the moment, so enjoying emersing myself in the whole thing. Jack Nitschze, Duane Eddy etc. I'd been using spring verb and tremelo, but I'll try your slap echo and modeling suggestions.
Thanks again for the upload.
The echo can be simply done with delay pedal. Set time to 0.3-0.5 sec and and quick decay. Plus some spring reverb. You don't need expensive gear at all.
I'm blown away with the tone I mean DAMN!!! its perfect!
I wish I had a Jagwhah
I've piddled around with the guitar over the years but I just can't get my fingers to work. However, even not being a musician and certainly not having a good ear for this, I surely appreciate the discourse on how to create this beloved classic sound.
I'm glad you enjoyed watching it Richard. And I hope it encourages you to keep working at and enjoying that guitar.
The personal pleasure making music can give is its greatest gift. Much more so I think that being "good" in the eyes and ears of others. Have fun. Enjoy! :)
Thanks dude! It's people like you uploading this stuff that have taught me how to play. Very cool informative video. :)
always play a sample at the beginning - we tune out otherwise
That is a good suggestion. Thank you rythmosrythmos.
He doesn't mention Dick Dale who invented the music from his love of surfing and listening to the sound of surfing waves, working with Leo Fender to come up with the guitars, the big stacked amps because he used to play hard and fast and make the amps go up in smoke and paved the way for heavy metal.
Get a stand alone Fender reverb unit. That's the key. Along with a Fender Bassman box. I was in an LA surf garage band in the mid 60's and our lead was Dick Dales nephew and we nailed it.
clarkewi I think
You mean a showman, a Bassman wouldn’t be clean enough for surf
Dick Dale used a bassman. No reverb.
Has vintage twin reverb. Plays line 6. smh.
+Gus Baldwin Yes, I have a lovely TR. And sitting next to it a `63 two-piece Tremolux. Both are used.
Is it odd that I play through a DuoVerb when playing surf? Perhaps. It is certainly atypical.
Some say we should trust conventional opinion. I prefer to put confidence in my ears and 50+ years of personal experience.
In ad speak "YMMV." :D
HI Don,I built a Fender 6G15 "stand-alone" reverb unit...the tank I got was made in the USA before they went overseas to have them built...sounds great. I also built an amp w/5F2 circuit but reverted to the 5F2A and built it in a tweed cabinet...ditto for the 6G15.......HANG TEN !
Yeah but you do realize the reason why he's playing the Line 6 is because it has multiple amps in one box...Line 6 is not bad for clean sounds, it's actually really good. The reason why everyone hates Line 6 is because of their high gain tones (From the past anyway) -- the latest stuff, Helix, etc. is actually very good across the board.
50+ plus years doesn't show in how you play the guitar. maybe another 50+ and you will get there.
line6 is a great amp.. I only disliked it because other people said it was bad.. until I played through one..
Respect the drip
I know this is old but I’ve been going mad trying to get that drip sound out of my Tone King Imperial. Now I know why! Thanks!
So glad if you find it helpful James!
Don't know if I'll ever get to play this, but the fact that this guy would take the time to explain and show his interest in this style is incredible. Thanks
I've played since '94 but just now getting into pedals and trying to understand them. I listen to all kinds of music from Punk, Rockabilly, Surf, Thrash, old Metal, etc, etc. My love for 60's surf- Dick Dale came from growing up on The Ramones, which I'm saving up for a Marshall JCM800 to go with my Marshall Cab to play Ramones tunes. I've always just plugged straight in the amp or with a overdrive but now being older, and actually really able to buy head now, I'm really working on my amps, guitars, basses plus pedals and processors for both as Im wanting to really get all the different sounds I've always loved. You Sir are a genius. Very helpful video! I also plan to get a Fender Twin Reverb to be able to play The Sex Pistols and The Cramps where I just change guitars and swap an overdrive with a fuzz. Is the Standard Fender Twin Reverb loaded with a spring reverb? Can I rely on the Fenders reverb for drip? Or need a separate Reverb pedal that's better? Sorry for the mini book. I'm just so excited to finally be getting all the gear I want and get so inspired by vids like yours. Thank You!
Edited- rewatched your vid and noticed you mentioned the Fender modeled Reverb pedal......I also can't figure out which delay pedal you used in this video?
Also, do you think the modeled spring Reverb pedal would be better for Rockabilly rather than using the Reverb on the Fender Twin? If so, that'll be 2 genres I could pull off using it. I found a few on ebay. I can use any info you can give me. Thanks
I think if you just turn up the spring verb mix and crank the dwell, you're way closer than adding delay. Dick Dale cranked the hell out of it, and he dripped all over the place. Also a much, much bigger cab would add so much body to the verb sound. I also think a Strat is an equally excellent guitar choice. The tremolo is a cool touch (authentic too), but doesn't really add to the verb.
I think you lost me at "Line 6"... I just can't get into those amps!
Its been said (by Shakespeare) that "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." I've found names and brand judgments an easy trap. Not absolutely useless, but often limiting and sometimes even misleading.
I personally try to judge things (yes, and people too) by what they themselves actually do, not a preconception based on a name.
Does the Duoverb sound good? It sure does to me! In fact I sold several classic amps (Fender and Marshall) after getting the DV.
You, of course, are free to make your own judgment. But I'd suggest doing so with your ears, not a preconception about a brand. :)
After building my Surf strat, this was one of the first videos I watched to learn surf guitar. Thanks.
Wot's so "surf" about it? You paint it foam green?
lipstick pickups
thats pretty surf dude
Michael Parent I built Tennis strat and the first video I watched was the Tennis strat guitar sound tutorial
I've watched this video several times to help me in getting the "drip" sound. Slap-back echo was a great tip. The best, however, was the tremolo suggestion. Mimicking the ocean. Awesome suggestion for such an elusive tone. I'd like to see more videos like this from you, if you have the time. You do a very good job of explaining things step by step.
I'm glad you found this helpful.
I'm no longer generally posting on UA-cam because thy make me watch long ads now even to comment on stuff I, myself, have posted. -Something I will not do.
"The Etymology of Drip" - by Don Sucher
:)
You're on to something here. Thank you for that robust explanation. I can dig a man who is thorough and contributes to the field.
Thank you Jason! :)
Electro Harmonix Canyon delay does a good job getting this sound. Trust me. I own one and go for this quite a bit.
Finding a tool that does is for you is great! Thanks for sharing!
Paul Ecoli Canyon alone can make drip? I just ordered it, partially because I want to use slapback mode with my reverb unit to get right sound, but does Canyon's reverb mode do this alone?
It does actually. That's what I was referring to when I originally commented. ALL the modes on the canyon are amazing, but the reverb delay will definitely get you there.I won't lie though. There's a lot of trial and error with this pedal. Getting to know the secondary button is a big one for this.
I also got this pedal, and it's amazing! But can you tell us the settings you use for the "drip" sound?
I can never remember. I set it on the fly. ua-cam.com/video/kPvWDj0wdRg/v-deo.html Bill Rupert gives a great demo of this pedal though. If I recall correctly, he shows how to do it.
The study of the drip
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the surf sound..very good to know a way of recreating that classic sound
If anyone has a boss katana amp, you can get a great drip sound by downloading spring reverb, and using a delay set to the highest speed possible (press the little grey button as fast as you can)
Good tutorial, thanks. I have no idea why I watched it, but you broke down the drip echo nicely. If I ever want to play surf guitar, I'll use these tricks. Thanks!
I love how enthusiastic you are! Great video!!
Love the Jag! I got a '62 AV Reissue. It was my first big guitar purchase in my teens. Saved most of my money for a good year or so. Fabulous guitars, great for surf!
Don, you are right on. I have the 63 fender reverb pedal along with a fender delay. I just added a bit of tremolo to all my surf songs and it sounds terrific. Great idea!
Love hearing that! Rock on! :)
Ree-verb. REE-VERB.
Exactly !!! It was killing me me everytime he said the word as well. Ha ! Ree-verb !!! I thought everyone knew how to pronounce it !!!
Well some of us go back to when reverb was "new" and we never heard it pronounced as it is today. Never even thought about it.
My first reverb amp was a then brand new Fender Vibroverb. We pronounced that Vi-bro-VERB. Accent on the last syllable. Same with the Ampeg Reverberocket. We pronounced that Re-VERB-erocket, not RE-verb-erocket.
Did we mispronounce those amp's names? And thus "reVERB."
May indeed be "wrong," but then again I've heard so, so many ask for a Lowenbrau saying LOW-in-BROW when what they should have said is LOYV-in-Broy. And, wonder of wonders, yet they still got the beer.. ;-)
ua-cam.com/video/zZ3fjQa5Hls/v-deo.html
Considering the derivation from the word reverberation, Don Sucher is correctly pronouncing it and we are not. I would not say REE-verbaration, but re-VERB-eration. Somebody mispronounced it and everyone picked up on it. It's like people say "I could care less" when they really mean "I could NOT care less."
Next someone is going to mention that he didn't call it a Fender JAG-wire! Toe-MAY-toe, Tah-Mah-toe, TORMATO! YES, I just did that!
When I say, "I could care less," what's implied is "...but it'd be dang near impossible."
Thanks for your help. I'm getting very close using the following set up: Fender 60th Anniversary Classic Player Stratocaster , Rockburn delay (£29 new) ,Joyo Tremolo (£30 new) into used Marshall JTM30 with it's spring reverb close max. The little Marshall has 5881 valves (tubes) like on old Fenders which helps it's cleanliness :-)
one of the best videos of youtube?congratulations,you are the best teacher of surf sound that i see in years,greetings from MIRAMAR BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA!!!!!
THANK YOU! I've been trying to sort this out for the longest time. Now I know why I can't get the right sound out of my built-in spring reverb.
This man made a great video. I felt like he built it all the way up in a very interesting way! i felt this video got the attention it needed. Cheers!
AWESOME, DON !!
I can tell you're an AUDIOPHILE , like me . I love learning about the "elements" of classic analog recordings , tube amps & effects , guitars etc .....
Keep the "SOUL" of modern post modern music alive !
"Modern post modern" -I love it! :D
I just recently bought myself a brand-new Boss Katana 100 Mk II 1 X 12 digital modelling guitar amp, going to see if I can recreate the classic 60's Surf Rock tone on it and see how it sounds compared to what you're getting in this video.
I bet you can do that, katana is pretty versatile
I just bought one too any tips for that surf rock tone?
Thank you Don. Ive had the reverb pedal for a while now and it sounded pretty good but adding the slight tremolo made a really nice difference. Like it much better now. Thanks again.
And this is how St. Anger was made.
1966 Vibrolux reverb here... second owner since 1968. Bright switch on, reverb 6, it becomes a time machine to take back to WET. The old springs and their driver coils in the reverb do that slap echo drip.
Man I really loved how you went through each step! It was really cool knowing the break down of every piece of creating this sound! Thank you! Subbed
Bravo. Never would've thought about slap echo & tremolo. Nicely done!
It’s fun to nerd out on surf rock.. I do they same thing :0)
Thank you so much! I've always wanted to know what effects to use to get that awesome surf music sound. I also wanna say thanks for showing and explaining each effect! This video was put together very well!!!
Thank you Kyle. May the music such techniques helps us create give you hours and hours of pleasure! :)
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. You are cool. You would make a great teacher most likely in any subject you would choose to teach. God bless you.
Thank you J.F. for the very kind and encouraging words.
Yes, the older 60s amps combined tremolo with reverb which is how these bands liked to set their sound.
Never heard anyone else say "re-VERB" - everyone else sez "RE-verb." Right? Don't know why - but it makes me crazy ever time he sez "re-VERB."
TB, others have pointed that out as well. Sorry to rock your brain.
"Back when" he never heard it said at all. It was simply something new -- first on stand alone units, then built it to amps. (My first was Fender's first such -- the 1964 "Vibroverb".) And the accent as that name was pronounced, as with Ampeg's "Reverbebrocket" was always on the 'verb' part. Perhaps that is how the pronunciation habit formed.
Alas, as with a person with a regional accent, I don't hear the mispronunciation myself. But it does seem to disturb others.
Don Sucher - All my life, people have asked me where I got my accent - where I'm from. I'm just an (old now) boy from California, and for the most part it's Californians who ask. They say I sound like I come from somewhere else - where God only knows - but naturally I can't hear it. So I can relate. Fortunately, I found a woman who thinks my voice and speech are sexy as hell - so I'll take it. I guess that's why ice cream comes in different flavors. All the best to you - and thanks for the fine video...
I pree-fer to call it "rev-herb" ... sounds more unique that way and I like the confused look on peoples' faces
I have only heard Americans say it that way, as in the video.
Sleipnir Blue
We legalized that Rev Herb up here in Oregon..... oh... not that!?!?!.. never mind.😉👍🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like this video not only because of the informations about the surfsound but also by the way of your teaching in the best meaning of the word - encouriging your 'students' to think on oneself from step to step that makes it easy to hit the target at the end of the line - talent by nature or a teacher for years thats the last mystery that reamains ;) Thanks a lot.
Thank you for those kind and encouraging words Tom.
This was my first video. I basically turned on the iPhone camera and simply started talking.
Yeah, I knew WHAT I wanted to share -- and I suppose that enthusiasm for the material comes through -- but I wish, now that it has sort'a established itself "out there" that I'd prepared my presentation a bit. The word slips and redundancies are a bit embarrassing.
Oh well, 'tis life. And words like your are much appreciated! :)
Exactly
Merci Don pour cette vidéo : vous avez cherché les secrets du surf sound et prenez tellement de plaisir à nous les révéler.
Wow. Great video, I really learned a lot. You're a great guitarist, and a good teacher as well. Some people can be one or the other-you're both my friend. Keep shredding!
surf is the reason i wanted an electric guitar
Great tutorial! I’ve been achieving a similar aesthetic with a Gretsch hollowbody through a Vox ac15 with on-board reverb / tremolo, and a delay pedal (the EHX canyon to be specific)
I love the sound of a Gretsch! (who doesn't?) :)
This is really good! Thanks for taking your time to tell us about all this... Bruce
Thank you Bruce. :)
thanks Bruce...
good on ya bruce
What I also find interesting (as a non-player) is Don's technique. His string damping means the effects take over after the attack to make a quite distinct sustain sound. It's two sounds in one.
People like Dick Dale actually used a reverb unit with his amp. Sonetimes he would use more than one.
You got the essence of drip and much closer than I've ever gotten. That slapback makes a huge difference. I wish you would've also shown the Tremelo by itself to hear that setting but great and informative vid. Thanks!
Awesome video! The best drip sound I've heard!
Thanks for this video mate! What a beautiful Jag, my favorite guitar Fender ever made. Believe it or not I never played surf music on my Jaguar until I saw this and you’ve inspired me.
Very nice. Having just joined a surf band this is really useful to me. Thank you Don.
Great about the band!
I love hearing that -- having so many memories of playing those songs "poolside" in the sixties.
Have fun!!! :)
fender stand-alone reverb box or (fender) built-in spring reverb does it easily, the more reverb the more drip!
I'm not into surf per se, but was acquainted with a lot of it when a kid. Being a guitarist who owns an early 70's, Teisco built, Japanese Jag knock-off (which was probably designed for this kind of music), I find this quest for 'drip' interesting. It's amazing how we guitarists are always in the search for that perfect tone we either grew up with, or hear in our heads. Very cool video. Peace.
We called it WET back in the day.
Thank you for feeding me knowledge. I'll remember you forever.
I own a boss's 63 pedal and I love the surf tone with my gretsch
Does it sound pretty close that classic mosrite surf guitar sound?
JO. O yes
Very cool! Rare to watch a video on UA-cam these days with out a million jump cuts.
Danelectro makes a really cool spring reverb pedal called the ‘Spring King,’ it’s got a full spring reverb tank built in so it’s the real deal! I bet you could get a hell of a drip from it. Plus it’s got a kick pad so you get the sounds of hitting the springs! King Gizzard used one on their track “Hot Wax” for those crazy spring hits.
Great video by the way! I promise I won’t make a joke on your pronunciation of reverb, lol.
Thank for the info mate i'm going to buy one tomorrow!!!
"King Gizzard used one"
Instantly buying one, then. Now if only I could buy six other friends, two dogs, and one kick drum to play the songs with.
I second this recommendation! It’s not a very versatile pedal, but the Spring King rips for playing surfy, or early psych type riffs.
Thanks Don, I've always wondered what was missing from my attempts of recreating this sound, now I know.
Glad it's working for you! :)
You remind me of the guy in the 1985 movie - Day Of The Dead!
Are you talking about Dr. Logan? lol
Thanks Don! I used your advice to model me some Surf with a Fender GT40 Modelling Amp. My favorite model is a Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb, Stereo Tape Delay, and Vintage Tremolo. This is matching fine with my Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar. I'm dripping surf!
Great tutorial man !
funny seeing you here
Love how excited he is to be letting us in on this. Seriously just subscribed for the enthusiasm and knowledge he has. Haven’t even watched a second video.
I didn't know John Lithgow played guitar
Love surf music since listening to the The Ventures as a kid. So that's how they make that sound. Excellent video. Thanks, surfs up!
I have an Azor mini analog delay that can give me a decent slap back that combined with the spring reverb on my Peavy Bandit 112 Red Stripe gives me bit of drip. Not authentic by any means, but decent.
I want that pedal so bad, they're totally sold out online at the moment, message me if you ever wanna sell it. :P
@@FretLevelMidnight They're in stock on Amazon right now bro.
Thank you so much for this, it was extremely helpful :) the slapback is fantastic and so simple. The care in adding just a bit of each effect is the mark of a pro, it totally came together with the light tremolo at the end!
+Oliver Denson So glad it is working for you Oliver! :) And my experience matches your own, That little bit of trem is like a touch of magic! :)
Sounding great on this end, thanks again :)
Thanks for this vid. I got a FRV pedal all cause of you
Glad you found it helpful! :)
@@donsucher5412 I've got this downloaded on my playlist plus it's the first video with my surf tunes. You remind me of my Best Bud from high schools Dad I love like my own
@@donsucher5412 which do you recommend for Surf, a Jaguar or Jazzmaster?
@@johnhareiel5118 In truth, John, I've found myself going back and forth in my preference.
Leo Fender listened to a host of surf guitarists as he made redesigns in the Jazzmaster to creat the Jaguar. A brighter, more percussive sound via both the pickups and the shorter scale. The added tone control that removes the lower end. Even the rarely used mute was put there for them. But in the end I think that the type of guitar is less important than the playing technique, or for that matter, the amplifer and it's settings.
The change is scale (i.e., neck length) works for some people, but not for others who prefer the Jazzmaster's traditionak Fender scale neck.
I do, though, love having the Jag's 22nd fret! :)
@@donsucher5412 thanx for the info. Now just trying to find folk here in MS that would play Surf Rock with me lol. It's the same thing trying to do a Punk Band here (Ramones- Sex Pistols- The Cramps). Everyone wants to play Skynyrd here. You ever listen to The Cramps?
The newer fender vaporizer gets perfect drip with no added effects.... also the fender super reverb.. reissue or an original gets perfect drip with no added effects. There may be others but I have only have experience with the ones I mentioned. I think some of the difference is units that have tube driven spring reverb. The vaporizer you can turn the tone and volume knobs all the way down and turn the reverb all the way up you actually play straight through reverb and it has the best liquid drip I’ve ever heard.
Thank you for sharing that Clayton.
I am unfamiliar with the Vaporizer. I'll need to check that out! :)
I never heard the real "drip" sound once in this video. Only one in ten Hammond reverb units had it. I worked on hundreds of them during my amp shop years. Note: Fender wasn't the only company to use Hammond reverb spring units.
In the '60s I used flat wound strings through a Twin or Super reverb with the Reverb all the way up then palm mute and I got that super cool surf snap back and it worked with a Firebird as well as a Strat or Jazzmaster.
Hi Don, I have to wonder (not the bread) how many of these internet experts (a drip under pressure) could actually pass the Pepsi taste test? ...they think that talking trash about modeling amps (Line6) makes them appear to have talent and high standards, desperate to compensate for a lack of both as well as having achieved nothing as a human being. So, let's see if they can actually tell the difference. I love my Fender Mustang, I have no need to try to impress others with expensive toys, 68 Les Pauls, pre CBS Strats, blaw blaw blaw... what matters is it works, and that you are having fun.
Most of us, at least at some point in our life, just accept what is commonly accepted and acho it.
There is a "truth" about tube tone. But modern amps DO get that sound -- an amazing variety of sounds -- with out them. And some of these amps are amazingly moderate in price.
I know one younger blues player who when he bought his "dramm" gigging amp chose a very modern (but not inexpensive) solid state model. For its tone along with lightness and reliability.
Use what you love! And yes, have fun doing so. :)
A few words to those who question my use of a "Line 6" amplifier in this video...
Few players know about these amps. Fewer yet have actually played through one. But the DuoVerb is not your "average" Line 6 amplifier. It was Line 6's attempt to go 'boutique' -- to spare no expense and thus break into the rarefied amplifier market.
In the market it failed. The DuoVerb was, simply put, way to pricey to sell while be called a "Line 6." But in every other way it was, and remains, an extraordinary success.
Quality of build. Sound. Design. Convenience. A true players amplifier. One whose capabilities far exceed what most -- even good and experienced -- guitarists will ever likely need.
I saw the DuoVerb when they were just released and reacted as I think did many guitarists. "I'd love to own one of those, but at that price? Nope. Never!"
But when, just a couple of years later, the company admitted the DuoVerb's failure in the marketplace and closed them out for a fraction of their original price I jumped. And when, a short time later, its matching speaker became available, I snagged one of those too. And I have never regretted it.
The DuoVerb had a lot of computer speed and power. Far more than other modeling amps of its day. (Today some less expensive amps likely have such, and some perhaps even more. But not then. Back then such was just too costly.)
With the DuoVerb Line 6 also addressed another thing that turned off many players-- especially ones who could afford such a costly amp. It was given a "normal" interface. No menus. No tiny LCD screens. Just comfortable and familiar knobs.
And as an added plus the DuoVerb's knobs did, and reacted, just as did those on the specific amp being modeled.
To all the above add its name claim to fame: DUO Verb. Yes, its two-amps-at-once capability. Each of the two with its own controls. Two amps that can remain separate, either stereo/side by side, over and under, or, if the user refers, may be blended into one unique sounding amp.
As with any modeling amp one needs to learn how to get the most out of a DuoVerb. And few players, it seemed, were willing to do that. But those that did were rewarded with a sound, a feel and a range of tones so great that even some sparkling classic Fenders may sit unused.
As mine often do.
As the old saw goes "don't knock it until you try it."
No, really, don't.
:)
3rd rocknroll from the sun.
Fascinating Don as you add each "ingredient". Many thanks.
Thank you Bob. :)
Why does he always look angry?
Because he’s concentrating so hard on that insanely hard riff. He used all four finger you know.
It's the eyebrows. Looks like he once committed a crime of passion.
These Amps that "Mimic" other amps have some killer Reverb in then and highly adjustable to customize your sound. Been using a Johnson Marquis 120 for 20 years ,touring, and studio, and I am still using it today.
Don, what a truly gifted teacher you are. As a relative newcomer to surfology, I think this is the best explanation I’ve found out there.
Thank you Wallace. I do love sharing my various enthusiasms. And getting a good surf sound sure falls into that category! :)
Nice. I recently bought a fender passport mini amp to practice on with my squire jag and one of the presets that it had on the amp was the classic surf reverb. Really close to the tone and you can also add post fx on to the preset through the fender fuse software and also create a whole different preset to save on the amp through the usb cable provided. I also found that using a compressor can also amplify it louder since it really works with a jag well
Great Video, thanks for sharing. Need to check out that Line 6 amp soon, sounds great. Been looking online for awhile for the Boss FRV-1 ( discontinued )that you use in this video, but they are quite expensive used, anywhere from $150-$200. So I purchased the Danelectro Spring King and Boss TR-2 Tremolo and now have a great 60's surf sound. That setup works with most single coil pickups that you will find on a Jauguar, Jazzmaster, Strat or Tele. I can get this sound through a Marshall amp as well. Keep up the great work, that Jaguar is stunning !!
Glad you enjoyed it Steve!
Yeah, FRV-1 are selling at a premium. But I, too, have heard good things about that Dano! So glad to hear it is working for you! :)