BASIC OBEDIENCE TRAINING WITH MY BELGIAN MALINOIS PART 2! HEEL/ SIT/ DOWN/ STAY!
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2022
- What's up everyone!! This is PART 2 to a video I published several months back, The Basics! I demonstrate HEEL, SIT, DOWN, STAY with my one year old Belgian Malinois, Freddy! These basic commands are the Foundation for everything Freddy will have to do in the French Ring Sport. If you haven't already, check out part One so you can see the progression!
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Music credit: Let Us Down - Cushy - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
i am on my day 2 of training our 1.5 yrs old belgian malinois, haha, it is not easy, he is soo excited and your advise about "basics" are so helpful!
How did it go?
Szia! Kitartás! Türelem! Értse meg te mit akarsz! =SIKER! 👌
I have a 1yr old black lab who is also off leash trained. The other day I noticed his recall wasn’t as perfect as usual so I felt really down on myself about it. I bear myself up thinking ‘I must have messed up. I thought he had it down’. Andy, you saying he can never be too good for the basics’ made it click with me. Going back to basics now and then isn’t a bad thing it’s apart of having a working dog. Thank you ❤️
Absolutely!
Just like Michael Jordan never stopped practicing free throws 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Got to say. I went into town today to get my oil changed . took along my 6 month old Malinois.
First time riding in my van. she was a little edgy and a little nervine on the ride over. we went for a WORKING walk. she did awesome. Very calm on the ride home. when we get in the house the dogs start typically start rough housing NOT this time. Thank you Andy!
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Moral of the story: The dog is very smart and wants to please you so he will try to anticipate what you want, and may actually do what you do not want if he anticipates incorrectly. So mix it up so he is less comfortable anticipating.
I love how your daughter mimics your moves. A future dog trainer in the making.
Seeing how happy and excited the dog is makes me happy! I can tell he loves listening to you
Just a fact to get a one year old dog to heal that good is amazing. But I think what people are also missing is there's a freaking camera man sticking a camera in this dog's face and still heals this good amazing
Yes! Thanks for noticing that! Definitely makes things harder for the dog! 🙌🏻
Andy I just watched this and I absolutely loved how you include your family. The part were your daughter handed you the dumbell is absolute gold and it just goes to show EVERYONE wants to be part of Andy's world. Absolutely fantastic to see how you are stopping the dog anticipating actions and your video on advanced training is just such high quality. Thank you for giving us these gems. Big thumbs up!
That’s a great compliment, thank you very much 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I verry seldom turn on notifications on youtube but now I have. Thank you so much.
I am a new dog owner and own a gorgeous swiss shepherd. I need to learn a lot more than my dog does.
Your content is verry valuable.
Thank you very much 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I had many dogs in my life but Sparkle is my first Malinois. She's 13 months old and very excited, very smart, super energetic and very VERY affectionate! These basics are helpful and well presented. My compliments!
I love how well trained your dog is
Thank you. We are getting there slowly but surely! Still a lot of work to do 🙏🏼
Awesome info! Thank you!
Smooth i enjoy the training. Thanks for your time.
Beautiful work! Your dog looks truly happy and relaxed -that is so nice to see.👍🐶🐕❤️
Needed this video. Great advice on constantly training the 'Basics! Thank you.
Yes!! 🤙🏼
Thanks for the help
Excellent video. Love your daughter during training for a distraction . Thanks
Super valuable video Andy - these little insights into preventing the dog anticipating what a next is helping me work my dog’s brain and make him concentrate which is all making him more reliable in his obedience. He’s an 18 month dog I took on at 7 months and his progress has been great and steady, he is a fantastic dog and now it’s time to work on less giddy ball drive during these basics sessions as he just LOVES training and together time, and I needed to hear this reminder that it’s not always about toys and being jacked up! We love your Patreon 👌
I'm glad to have found your channel. This is a life goal of mine.
Another great one from you andy! I love your unique approach!
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I’m on my 5th rescue that’s smarter than me. Constantly anticipating me. Love your shake up anticipation w planned randomness
Great video
Amazing work, thank you for sharing your knowledge and hard work with us
I appreciate that 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks Andy. I dog sit for my son when he is away and really enjoyed the lesions you give here. Hopefully I’ll have my own Malinios someday.
Love your videos! I could use your help with my 20 month malinois. Your vids are very helpful- I picked up a lot of good ideas thank you
Love the technique . 💪
Fantastic job 👍
Thanks
I think Freddy and the baby were just ready to play. I like the psych op with the dog , always training.
He’s definitely ready to play at all times!
But also knows there is always work to be done! 💪🏼
Andy, the way that Freddy watches and moves with you is amazing, you are a fantastic trainer.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Fabuloso video
Se aprende mucho
Muchas gracias Andy
Desde Tabasco Mexico
doing great my overly hyper friend!
Haha thank you
Yah vibrant indeed 😂
thank yoouuuu sir, great video as allways! Will for sure put it in practice!! Much Love from Portugal Mondioring
Heck Yes!! Awesome! 🤙🏼🇵🇹
Nice job! 👍
Sei bravissimo complimenti ❤
Oh my this is Awesome, good training! i love the unpredictable this dog super smart amazing! i admire this dog and kudos to you who train your dog i am going to learn great lessons here for our dog as well. Thnak you for sharing us how you train your dog this is very helful and i love the fact that you said you will teach that sit, heel and stay foerever,
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I totally agree the mix match control system,,the right dog trained from the basics correctly should have no trouble instantly reprogramming command it showes leadership and control of a very well trained and obedient mate,, I ssay mate as it's for life not for five minutes in the park.
THANJS Andy love the vidio,,
County Wexford Eire 💯💞
Great video Andy. I am new to train, and I feel like I get stuck, like 'what's next?' You give me new aproach with the basics. Thank you!
Love hearing that, thank you! 🙏🏼
Thank you
Bro tengo un perro de 1 año y tus videos me han servido demasiado gracias por hacer videos tan interesantes
Gracias 🙏🏼
I’ve worked around Mals as EOD and always found them to be amazing. Recently we had an opportunity to rescue one that some people found to be too much. Sadly, we were not able to get him. Now through watching your videos and knowing how much work and attention they do need, I’m eager to find one and work. Love the videos!
I just got a 1 year old Belgian malinois in u where very helpful
Last week I finally figured out putting the lead behind me instead of crossing over the front. 😅 Great info as always?
Yep. Good move 👍🏻
I don’t know why people are offended. I appreciate your info and if it’s the E-collar/ prong collar then that’s their problem. Reality is some dogs need it, sometimes or all the time depending on their energy levels and environmental stimuli etcetera. So thank you and please continue what you’re doing. You have no idea how much of a huge help you have been.
Funny you say about working on these basics until he retires. We’ve already experienced this issue with our 6 month old Cané Corso. He was doing so well with the basics and so we let up on his daily training for a bit and now he is a hot mess. Which is what brought me here. Bc of his breed type, he’s in his teenage years and now testing what he can and can’t get away with so we’ve found ourselves working harder to get him back on track with the basics and now the main and biggest struggle is his recall. But we do have some long lines to work with so we’re going to get back to the basics and use his kibble to get this sorted. And from here on out we’ll keep it as a part of his daily exercise as I realize mental exhaustion is just as good as physical so combined with his daily walks and play session’s he should be good. 🤞🏽
Que show, estou passando dificuldades com meu Malinois de 8 meses super ansioso, uma pena que não sei inglês, mas você é fera. Parabéns.
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Also amazed by the work you do! Have to say, since taking your advice on not hurrying to move on to the next cool thing, my dog is so much stronger and clearer in his behaviors🙏 Also never noticed before how you hold the leash behind you and in the far hand for heeling-going to do it this way now!
Oh yeah! 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Andy, William here from South Africa thanks for videos, I've recently been tasked with training 3 x 2 and 1/2 month old Mallies for antipoaching on a private game reserve and definitely will follow your vids. Busy with basic obedience first. I would love any advice you can offer. I have 3 females Malaika, Izzy and Marchosaiz.
Easily your best video yet Andy! Watching this I picked up so many simple concepts I've been overlooking.
Question: I noticed you held your leash behind your back with your opposite hand. Can you go into a little more detail on this method? I started doing this early on in Zeus's heal training cause i found it was helping but stopped when my club president told me I should never do this but never really explained why or offered a working alternative.
Love hearing that! Thank you! 🙏🏼
I like the leash behind the back because if the dog understands leash pressure, it keeps him in perfect Heel position. Of course this only works if the command has been built with food properly first. I can then pressure or correct if I need to without my left hand/ the dog seeing it.
You could always go back to this method and just not do it at club! 😆🙌🏻
Good advice. My 11 month old malinois/Tervuren cross appears to be more focused on ‘playing’ ball and loosing focus on me. I will definitely go back to basics with not treats or toys, regain his attention!
Yep! You can make a behavior mandatory without killing the dog’s drive! Save the ball for jumps, send aways, recalls etc. Teach the dog that Heeling will lead to the reward somewhere else 🙌🏻
@@AndyKrueger Thank you. Tried this out, it’s completely thrown him 😂 Walks to heel for a few minutes then his looking at me then around wondering where the ball is!
@@convidtruthshallout Yep I believe it. I’d look to wean him off rather than cold turkey, but either way could work.
At the end of the day he needs to understand he is Heeling for YOU and not the ball 🙌🏻
Haha French commands great but songs like an habit when you live in France or maybe Belgium, hello from Belgium, good job
Hey! Thank you!
The dog and training was on point but the little girl in the video stole the show. Adorable!
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Thanks for these videos. It's been a couple decades since I went through basic training with my rotty. I've got a GSD now & definately, need the help! I like that you hold the leash behind you. When I learned, we had the leash in front & my rotty constantly had her head & right foot in my way. Leash behind would stop that, thnxs.
As would proper luring 👍🏻
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Love your channel. I have recently begun training with a trainer who also has done French ring from the Cincinnati area. Mike Kennedy. Ever heard of him?
Thanks!
Yep, I’ve trained with Mike in the past. He’s a great guy and trainer 🙏🏼
hi, good nigth, i like the german shepherd dog and think in get one, i lke if you do a video with the whole basic commands in english, i dont want the dog for commpetition or protection, i looking for for a dog for pet but with a little of obedience, please if you do a video like this it be a big help, and i follow for more content for beginners owners, thank you and keep doing this videos, they are big help for anyone
I am always going back to basics, at the moment I feel my Mali is in a fear period. She always had weak nerves, but right now it is.... not good at all. Current training is clicker loading, Box feeding, pressure into positions, indirect rewards and making play more fun
Nice! Sounds like a good training regiment! 💪🏼
@@AndyKrueger it is exhausting for me because I always overdo it a tiny bit. Still not able to see the best moment in training and end it there, but oh well... I see every dog like a piece of a ladder. Everyone has it's purpose in making me a better handler
@@sophia-mariapavelka3534 I understand. Take a few weeks off from training. Give yourself and the dog a reset. Just let her be, even if she’s scared and nervous. Sometimes they need to go through things mentally without our intervention. And it will give you time to de stress and come back with a fresh mind. Taking time off from training can actually make the dog better when you get back at it. Enjoy the dog for who she is instead of thinking how to ‘fix’ things. Just a thought! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@AndyKrueger Thank you! That has helped. What do you recommend doing on a walk when we pass other people and dogs. Engage in play?
That was good to hear from another dog friend and trainer I admire. Thank you for answering ♡
@@sophia-mariapavelka3534 I wouldn’t take on walks for awhile. Hopefully you have some yard space or somewhere you could go with no distractions for exercise. Eliminate the stress altogether. Reset 🙏🏼
Hungary,szuper vagy! Csak nézem, de nem értem!
Your very passionate about dog training and that encourages me, keep up the good work, and I have a question, and I want to hear your take on it. I saw a video once of a dog trainer talking about when you tell your dog to sit you don't have to tell him to stay, because sit means sit until you tell your dog to either come or stand, what do you think about that?
Thank you 🙏🏼
Yes I agreed with the implied stay 👍🏻
I use an additional stay command bc it’s required in the sport I compete in.
Great training! How long do I keep my dog in his crate?
Hi Andy, thanks for the videos! I'm got a Belgian Malinois that is about 18 months old. His name is Kaine and I got him from a dog rescue group. He apparently has had some training, but he is still very rambunctious as he CONSTANTLY jumps on me and other people. He also jumps on the door of the house too. Every night I bring him inside and put him in his crate. In the morning, when I let him out he bolts for the door and jumps on the door. My door and walls look like hell.
How can I break him of jumping on people, and jumping on the door? I feel that I need to quash this first before I can get into things like sit (he knows this), down( ok with this), and stay (nope, not good at all). He is food and toy driven. He loves to play fetch and will run and get a toy I throw, but won't bring it to me directly. I've been trying to give the toy to me by staying the word GIVE, but sometimes he gets it, other times he doesn't.
Your suggestions?
Completely change the lifestyle and every interaction you have with him. Dog training is NOT about stopping things, it’s about BUILDING. Especially with breeds that are not meant to be pets.
I’d watch all of my videos 👍🏻
Really appreciate the reminder to keep working the basics - I was wondering if you ever worked with standard poodles? Just curious, I was noticing at 5:51 in the video that Freddy appeared to be snapping at your hand; is that normal?
Yep I’ve trained poodles.
Sort of haha!
So your dog is Freddy Kruger? 😂👍
Yes! *Krueger 🙂
Hi, always amazed by the work of you guys do!
Noticed that when your dog heel's with you ,his ears are folded back and as soon as you are away from him, ears up paying attention to you. Mine does the same. Is it something wrong with that or it depends from dog to dog ?
Thank you 🙏🏼
Nope nothing wrong with that! I like my dog to be ‘at ease’ while heeling rather than a IGP style focused heel.
If my dog’s ears pop up in Heel, that usually means something got his attention other than me 👍🏻
@@AndyKrueger the ears back is seen in IGP as a sign of pressure on the dog, whats your take on that? Love your videos 💪
@@manueltaboadadetorres3399 Excellent question! Yes this style of heeling would not be desirable for IGP. But on the flip side, IGP style heel would not be desirable for French Ring! Ring judges are looking for a ‘natural’ walk. This is crucial to asses the dog and for the dog to be able to make it through an entire Ring 3 program.
An interesting point: if you watch an IGP dog walk normally on leash off of the field, their ears are usually back, unless of course they are aroused by something (squirrel, dogs, people, etc)
Ringsport sees an IGP heel as ‘unnatural’ and impractical. Don’t get me wrong, it definitely looks awesome! Just not suited for Ringsport.
As far as the pressure goes, ears back CAN mean too much pressure has been applied BUT does not mean too much pressure HAS been applied. If you study my dog’s body language, it’s clear that he’s bursting at the seams with drive and performing with heart and enthusiasm.
For example; a dog’s tail can be wagging right before they engage in play with another dog OR right before they attack another dog. So, tail wagging CAN mean ready to play but doesn’t necessarily ALWAYS mean that 🙏🏼
Muy buenos días. Son buenos tus vídeos pero me gustaría que también los pudieras traducir a español...
Great videos one question why french?
In first video, you had lead in front of legs...this one you have lead behind legs, is this because he has a consistent heel now?
Also how to you transition from doing engagement heel with puppies to working a heel like this?
I'm researching into starting to look for my retired Service Dog's successor. I found in CA, 2 male Malinois brothers at a rescue and adoption place. I thought I was going to relocate from where I am presently living since my plans of moving west was prevented when Covid happened. Waiting on other housing I still want to get started on training of new Service Dog. Finding the right dog is hard since here in New Mexico I'm without transportation since losing everything just before Covid. I'm wondering would you change anything in your obedience training shown in these 2 videos for someone like me training for a Service Dog? Watching your Malinois jump on you and grab onto the tugs I feel like the dogs are learning for the outcome of being guard dogs or patrol dogs for military or police work. Yet not all my thoughts are wanting a Service Dog just for mobility needs. During the Covid situation I and my Service Dog went through some serious life-threatening things to where I have PTSD from our threatening attacks, so having a Service Dog to have more training than my retired S.D. now. Although I never had to train the safeguarding of my life... she has several times in the 12 yrs. of her Service saved my life from attacks. She still is so in tune to life threatening problems she still handles it all, even at 17 yrs. in age she is still cares for me. For just the initial training for new Service Dog will take over a yr. to maybe 2 yrs. but with the other training for maybe like my other dog was so smart at detecting cancer cells way before my friend went to doctor for medical updates with testing for cancer. If you happen to know of any organizations that will do state to state transporting of rescue/adoption dog I wish to bring her to me in NM. I'd appreciate all help you can think of contacting.
I am new too. Have a female Belgian Malinois 2 months and i need the full day of the dog broke down, 🙏
wake up?
Kennel time?
Water?
Food only for training at first
Also should i train in french,why not right? Just sounds better also the way the leash is behind you is way better!
Need more help then most!
Question: When it comes to teaching rear end awareness, do you strictly teach that in the barrier, or do you do any of that on a touch pad?
Touch pads are good for rear end awareness for sure 👍🏻
I heard you say that Freddy stays in a crate so being able to come out and work with you is a treat in and of itself.
I am training my dog but I live on a farm and she is never in a crate and she has a lot of room to run and etc. and have mental stimulation. Do I need to crate her while we go through a few months of training or is that a lifelong thing or what? Also, she sleeps on my bed or on the floor next to my bed at night, is this bad.
My goal is to have an obedient farm dog, I don’t do any sort of competitions.
I am amazed by the dog, trainer but I don’t know if it is showing me how to get my dog to learn the behaviors and what you do if they don’t do what your trying to teach.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Yes these videos are not step by step instructionals, but rather guidelines for training 👍🏻
First off, you have very informative videos. I do have a question. Why do you double command the dog? If sit means sit then why is there any need to command him to stay? Same thing with he down command.
Thank you 🙏🏼
I also like the concept of implied stay. I agree Stay is a helper/ double command. I train this way with Freddy to abide by the rules in the French Ring Sport.
@@AndyKrueger I was wondering if it was a Ring Sport issue. Both my Mali's come from KNPV lines. My male comes from Big Roy / Berry II. Female is Manni/Django
@@jerrodalford9708 Sounds like nice dogs!
Yep, in Ringsport you can give a stay command but technically I don’t think you have to. But since the handling requirements are so strict and so much control is required of the dog throughout, I take all the extra commands I can get!
Think of it like putting a car in park. If you stop it, and put it in neutral, you're probably good. But what if you're in a rush, and forget about/don't notice the grade/slope. You run off, and your car rolls down the hill, crashing into who-knows-what. It doesn't roll away if you put it in park, and you have to take it out to get moving.
Stuff happens fast, and comes out of nowhere. I like knowing my dog's not moving, until i want him to.
Hi Andy, great video great tips. I have a question for you. I didn't understand the "stay" command. When I send my dog to "sit", my goal is for him to stay there until he gets another command. to explain to him again that he should stay there does not make sense for me. I'm a big fan and many of your tips have made life with my malinois easier.
Hey! Great question! An implied stay is a good way to train as well! I train a verbal stay because it is required in the rules of the dog sport I compete in. But I like both ways honestly 🙏🏼
@@AndyKrueger that's what i like most about you and the reason i follow you. you give people and dogs the opportunity to improve, but you also give them the space to go their own way.🤙🤙🤙
@@marioklein1533 🙏🏼
Andy, at what point do you move to working your dog away from your home field? At that point, do you expect to need to back up your training to offset the distractions of a strange environment?
I train in many different places from day 1 🙏🏼
is there a high collar you recommend?
Do you have a video on the how to train or teach down, sit but from far away. So if he were to retrieve something and on his way back I say down, or sit my dog just keeps coming back to me. If I start him.in a down or sit position and I walk away he does a bit better but then gets up to comes towards me.
Which way is best to keep practicing or should I keep doing both.
If the dog has good positions close to you, adding distance should come easily. If the dog seems to have good positions close but can’t do them with distance, I’d say they are not good enough close 👍🏻
Then we will continue with basics up close...so we can nail the far away.. thank you for replying.. I enjoy watching your videos and always learning something new
Can I ask how you got the prong colllar fixed. It looks like the centre is round the side of the neck not the front.
Are Dutch shepherd hard to train
i have a belgian malinois, i he knows all the commands in this video, but i do you know how to make him less destructive?
Yes, you’ll have to make some serious lifestyle changes! Crate, train, supervised playtime, repeat! Don’t let him off leash free roam your house 👍🏻
@@AndyKrueger I’ll do that, thank you for your help
@@ryanlee7267 👍🏻👍🏻
How would you start to teaching the heel command is it just walking with the dog alongside you or what somebody
Luring 👍🏻
Just rescued a 4 yr old male ill call a king Belgium Malinois.
King German Shepherd and Belgian Malinois.
100 lbs. No known training, boarding
shelter last two months. Neutered. healthy strong, using lunge, voice, feeding 4 meals per day. He bit me upper forearm on delivery. Harness only.
Can you point me to someone in this same situation. Btw this guy was only suppose to be a German shepherd.
Andy I am in a wheelchair. It’s difficult to train my dog and mimic how you train the heal command. Can you do a couple of session using a chair and not be able to bend over to reach your dog.
I need to go back to better eye contact. I get the brief look and then she looks away.
Hi Andy , Can you recommended any trainers in New Hampshire?
Sorry don’t know of any!
How long would you need to train a dog and be consistent for ?
Their whole life!
What is the right age to start a dogs training
You looked very concerned about the stick in the hands of the baby...
How do you train such focused obedience without treats?? It seems like my dog always had adhd and absolutely no attention span when training
What do you do if they have no toy drive?
Do you offer training that isn't for the competition feild?
Come, sit, stay...the holy trinity. Sprinkle in some leave/drop, and a wackload of exercise. That's the recipe for a good companion. Praise when they get it right, and consistent correction when they don't.
The dog knows how to do it all. You just have to calm down, and figure out how to tell him. Stay calm, confident, and consistent.
Exercise before training is a good formula, too. A tired dog is a more responsive dog.
Thanks for the comment! Great advice, I agree with everything except the last sentence! I believe a dog full of energy is just as responsive if not more responsive than a tired dog. But every owner and dog are different! 🙏🏼
I guess it's more beneficial if you're just starting (puppy/new-to-you) training your dog, or going to be working on new skills. Most I've seen are less distractable, more willing to take direction, if they're tired. But a trained dog, I will agree. There's probably not going to be a noticable difference.
Keep up the good work!!
@@downeastjd1711 Absolutely 👊🏼 Thank you for sharing! 🙏🏼
Do you have any tips/videos of how you start an older dog with 0 training on basic obedience?
Many videos like this on my channel.
@@AndyKrueger I will go thru them when I get a quiet min.... hard to find with 2 Mals haha
My shepherd did this..
Do you let him relax on a daily walk or do you have him in heel the whole time?
Wondering if that would be ok for my dutchie
You mean the ‘free’ command?
If a dog has very good heeling with a lot of experience I release them when appropriate. But a new/ young dog in training I completely separate structured walks from free walks 👍🏻
@@AndyKrueger got it. So free walk is what most people would do walking their dogs. Structured walk is training, in command, heel etc. do I have that right?
@@juandediosgarcia9606 yep 👍🏻
How do you train them not to smell around when they are in a stay?
Don’t build too fast
How would you stop your dog from sniffing the ground in a down stay?
I would first teach the word ‘no’, then use it in that situation 👍🏻
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@@AndyKrueger Andy bravo👏👏👏👏👏, so much love , effort , knowledge and dogs are phenomenal I have one I left to my family.
@@gladiatormaximus2663 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Gappay vest? Really? They're from my town, I buy their stuff too. 🙂
Mine is 2mts old when can I start heel command training?
Now!!
@@AndyKrueger thanks
He's very stubborn but progressing slowly
@@nimrodhenry9136 Oh no…you didn’t!
Stubborn?? NO SUCH THING SIR! A puppy!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
If you watch my videos, you’ll learn that there is no such thing as a stubborn dog, just uneducated owners. Saying ‘stubborn’ is blaming the dog/ puppy. It is not their fault that your attempted training methods are not effective. Having this mindset will set you up for a lifetime of failure and frustration with the dog. I think your training ‘ethos’ needs a MASSIVE overhaul! 🙏🏼🙏🏼