The most extreme air rifle pellets in existence.. Ceramic hybrid tipped Gamo lethal!
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2024
- Testing some silicon nitride ceramic tipped Gamo lethal air rifle pellets against the h&n hornet steel tipped lead pellets
The hornets are a phenomenally accurate lead hunting pellet ,will the ceramic tipped gamo lethals be accurate or are they just a gimmick
the gamo derived pellets are fully lead free
i test again how tough are the budget safety glasses with quite surprising results
here is part 1 of the lead free pellet testing against the safety glasses
• How dangerous are lead...
and here is the first time i used the H&N hornets
• Shooting through a sni... - Спорт
Yet again we see some Snake Oil type gimmick pellets... The Gamo are stunningly inaccurate, terrible for clean kill, yet they'll be marketed as the ultimate vermin killer
Great review 👍
Yeah they aren't the best 🫣
I do like the concept though... Maybe as technology moves on something more advanced will emerge.🤔
Gamo pellets, a gift that keeps on missing.
I cannot believe how bad some Gamo ammo is. Inconsistant,, inaccurate, laughable at times.....and, Gamo doesn't seem to care.
Are their rifles as inaccurate as their pellets 😂
@@calchedz Yes!
@@calchedz I have 13 air rifles, 6 of which are Gamo’s and I haven’t had any issues with them at all including accuracy. I personally think they’re really nice 🤷♂️. The lethal are in accurate at long range for sure but if you read between the lines they are a home defense pellet for close range.
@@moldypizza8808 you need a Glock for home defense not an air rifle
The beauty of the "Hornet" is (at least in my experience): 1) it's superb accuracy, compared to other "penetrators" (namely: Polymag and Metalmag) ; 2) the compatibility with wide array of guns - I have emptied many cans of them, in caliber 177, 22 and 25, from 5 different brakebarrels and 2 PCPs (Artemis M16 /.22, Snowpeak PP750 /.177), and, in terms of "grouping" they performed almost as nicely as an average "paper target", flat nose pellet. And they PENETRATE like a spear! The best choice for pest control/hunting, if one is not "on a budget" (yes, these are expensive).
Yep not cheap, but a very well made pellet ,if that's the sort of thing you want. There's a new short version due , I guess following the polymag shorts. I'll get some and do a comparison 😆
Thanks for braving the cold to shoot this brilliant pellet test, fun and informative 👍
Hoping to get out today for the first time this year, damned cold but no rain or wind 😁
I've been struggling to shift a cold over Christmas mate, was the first day out for a few weeks and it felt freezing after being stuck in for a while ☹️
Roll on the spring eh..
Morning chap, all the best for 24, quality informative review as usual, cheers buddy, Jon 👍 Hawkes Eye TV 👍😁
Cheers Jon, it's going to be a busy year on the channel here. I've a lot planned,just need to find the time.
Excellent review again with the Best conclusion being.... A win for the Screwfix Perspex Safety Glasses!!!
Maybe inadvertently you have proved the glasses are an excellent bit of Safety kit when using BB Pistols/Rifles at short ranges
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Happy New Year T.G., nice to see some one else braving the baltic-ness.
Cheers mate ,and you 😉
It's been so windy here since pretty much late October it's really made it hard to get stuff filmed☹️ the cold isn't fun either
Aye, 42 days / nights worth...
Yet Canada has no snow and geese still on the ground!
Excellent. Just what I needed. Still weak and wobbly from something nasty I caught a week or so ago, its zero and below with a wicked wind and it may be awhile before I get out again.So thank you for gettingout anyway , agood test with good humor. Keeps me going . All the best keith
Hope you're on the mend mate. I've been rough all over Christmas myself so this was the first time out and it was bitter cold.. it was great to get out, film and have a laugh 😉
In the real world of shooting the most important qualities of ammo are: accuracy, consistency and, if used for hunting, penetration. The Gamo Lethal pellets appear to be sadly lacking in the first 2 categories and I've yet to encounter a rabbit wearing safety glasses so the only thing that test proves is that even cheap safety glasses provide excellent protection.
hello . mr gunstock , i think tose composite pellets , its marketing , nobody needs them ,not with airguns , use only matchgrade pellets made out of lead
Hi 😉 I absolutely agree. However... I feel there could be some further development into some sort of composite, maybe even 3d printed🤔 outer skins with maybe a lead core.
Our traditional lead pellets are so fragile and vary quite a lot in size, these gamo plastic bodies are almost indestructible and feel so nice to load. That's the only good qualities 😆 but as technology evolves maybe the concept is worth further investigation.. maybe 😆
@@tillysgunstocks plastics are just as bad as lead. Hard metal or other material used for pellets are dangerous for shooter and public
I recently bought some preditor metal mags and nearly half were unusable , the skirts get baddly bent as they are pure lead and very very soft , I was using the cap of a pen to round out the skirts the best I could , then someone turned me on to pellet head sizers which most people think is obsolete now , that little tool saved every pellet in the tin it works great for rounding out the skirt to where you cant tell it was ever damaged . I highly recommend them , I originally bought them because the H&N rabbit magnum 2 is head sized way too big , actully jammed one in my 25fpe pcp crosman Icon 22cal , after dislodging the jam I put a whole tin thru the sizer and the feed great soooth like butter , resizing an entire tin took me 3 days of sitting for 30 min each time just doing it in a mindless fashion. @@tillysgunstocks
@@tillysgunstocksWe had Prometheus pellets years ago similar to these... another idea that fell by the wayside 😉
Sabot pellets are known to be good penetrators on certain materials because of the light weight/extra speed & hard tips but the cost and for the most part accuracy is not really appealing unless your thing is to break stuff with lower power airguns
Neither of these is a sabot pellet. A sabot leaves the missile after firing. These are composite pellets.
Brilliant, was looking at some different pellets to buy for garden squirrels, and the very occasional rat.. Think you've answered my questions.. Gonna stick with the 13grn QYS for the 19mtrs I'll be doing it over... ( OK, may try the Hornets at some point) very good vid..
I've swapped over my nv rig to run the hollow point jsb, purple tin jobs..the name escapes me right now..i did a vid on them, they hit hard!
If your pellet is hitting with 10 foot pounds kinetic energy it has 120 inch pounds of energy, so a penetration of one inch would give an average impact force of 120 pounds. Those pellets are going into the glasses about a tenth of an inch at most, so you must be hitting those glasses with 120X10 = 1200 pounds of force!
That's almost half a ton of force! Good polymer glasses. Nice video.
Blimey... The maths is a little above me mate but I'll definitely agree the cheap safety squints are much more stout than I expected they would be.
I want to get my mates to have a few shots with some fac power stuff to see how they hold up...😎
They looked to have a pretty unstable nature to them, but they certainly hit hard into that tray. I guess the ball tip design will limit penetration to some extent. Glad you are trying them out rather than me though!
I've not had the weather for any proper testing of late mate so thought I'd do something fun. Definitely wouldn't recommend trying them out unless you get really bored 😆
Like fancy fishing floats, they catch more Fishermen than Fish!
I can agree with that mate . 🎣
Interesting test Sir - H&N produce a lot of fun projectiles and those hornets looked like being a good ones.
Have you tried H&N terminator pellets ?
Thank you for sharing 😊
Hi mate,I've not tried the terminators yet but they do look fun to try..
The hornets are very good and there's a new short version just being released.i guess similar to a polymag short.which are also surprisingly good in my barrels... 😉
We use to muck around with webley tempest in 1987-1990..and we use to use tic tacs breath mints and they worked a beaut to lol
😆😆 what calibre is a tictac?
Have you tried the Gamo Rockets? Same idea, but not plastic and with a standard copper (I think) bb in the tip. I feel like those would do some serious work on the goggles and DEFINITELY the bacon tray. Probably shoot pretty straight as well. A .22 Rocket coming out of any decently powered rifle should have some fun results going against any well made pointed pellets. I actually just ordered a tin with a new rifle that should fire them out +/- 1k fps and I'm quite looking forward to see how they work.
Strikes me that if you're out there hunting for the elusive barn door, these may be the pellets for you! My cylinder bored 12 bore has less spread than these ceramic tipped things seem to manage.
Yeah they're a bit dodgy tbh. Fun nonetheless but good job they aren't available to buy 🫣
So Funny pellets have already been perfected , but we all keep looking for the little something special , Im as guilty as the next guy , bought every gimmicky pellets out there except the exploding pellets , they cost a dollar per shot if you buy them from ebay in America, I recently pulled the Flint out of a lighter and made some Flint tipped pellets , the flash wasn't visible to my eye but you could plainly see them on Video , even funnier is I was shooting at an old truck tailgate and the flash was visible in a different area than the impact , I think I'm seeing the flash as the pellet bounces off , I have some content and posted if you care to look . I used Appolo 25 cal slugs and a Bic lighter Flint, it fits almost perfectly but does have to be pushed in a half millimeter to get it seated , the Flint is completely buried in the lead so no chance of barrel damage . Nice video great job
We just can't help ourselves at times 😆 I wasn't expecting much but they did give me a good laugh which is the important thing
The H&N hornets are by far my favorite but I can guarantee you the crosman fast flights will beat both hornets and Gamo lethals.
Hi mate,I've not heard of them before. Are they any good? Any suppliers in the UK? I'm keen to try all the stuff that comes highly recommended
they will put a hole through a frying pan
@@redauwg911 yes, very accurate..
@@tillysgunstocks Amazon
How about a PolyGraphite Carbon Fiber Pellet with Sharp Pointed Carbide Tip. Is it possible, and what would be the results and what would be the cost? Then if successful could that be applied to bullets. Been kind of looking into alternatives to Lead on and off for 15 years, had settled on Fool's Gold Cores, Brass Jackets, Aluminum Tips, and Bronzium Casings. Now I got a new idea.
I Am in here in the USA where at this time we have no power restrictions' I own three gamos two Benjamins one Hatsan . they all like different Pellets my Gamos are set At one pound Eight Ounces My Swarm Fusion AT ten Yard Will Put gamo Rocket in the same hole that the .177 one . My Hatsan loves JSB .22 my Gamo Mach 1 loves JSB 13.4 Grn Redesigns Best. Gamo red fire speed was 1038 fps the predator polymag was1007 fps and just as accurate more damage with the red fire, deeper penetration with with the polymags. the Crosman 10.5 grain from the box is just a hair more accurate than JSB and H&N . any way those are my finding . as far as the HN hornet they use a brass tip that one reason they cost more the Game Lethal shoot ok but they brake the sound barrier. but if I git attacked by some .06 T6 Aluminum I will be ready.
The Hornets are super accurate and super badass 😮
Yep.. not my normal ammo by a long way,but very cool and they run well through my barrels...I like giving them a run out every so often😉
Going to stick to good old tested lead never let me down since the 1980s
Nothing beats H&N Hornet in .177 for penetration. I've tried them all. The Hornet is a skull drill though I do have to correct you. They are brass tips not steel.
I remember the first steel tipped plastic slugs, they would mostly bounce back,or the tips would penetrate and flip the plastic off. They were a disappointment, these don’t look any better.
Good for taking out glass
In Bulgaria at the European championships, they had 40° at 55 yards
nice video
what scope is that ?
Thats an optisan CP . The 32mm objective version. Lovely compact scope. I like it..
You got any of the rws powerball?
I believe so mate. I've loads of weird and wonderful stuff here. When it warms up I'll do as many of the oddball stuff as I can get my hands on into ballistic gel. That should be fun if I can slow the footage down 😉
i wouldnt bother with rws superfields they have changed the spec now and are 8.3gr and none are the size they are meant to be i sized 100 pellets most were 4.50 and under!
The safety glasses was well worth seeing, even the cheap goggles did really well. Even two shots on top of each other didnt make it through, and they were direct hits not ricochet. the chances of you standing there and getting shot in the eye once let alone twice is hopefully very slim. Well worth wearing. But yea the novelty pellets are totally crap. Just stick to the regular domed type.
Try crosman powershot fast flights. They might work.
The colder it gets the harder it gets
is the lead pellet ban still coming in cos i mentioned this yesterday and no one beleived me cheers
We as air rifle shooters have been lucky for the moment. There's to be no restriction for the foreseeable future on lead pellets.🥳🥳
Silly gimmick, we don't need armour piercing airgun pellets LOL
True mate. But it was great fun getting out and having a play 😆
Isn't the h&n hornet a brass tip? Not steel? Also, I find they are actually very good and accurate in my guns
Yes mate they are brass tips. I likely got muddled up as the gamo are a copper (looking) plated steel tip and core.😉
Cheers for the reply. I use them Hornets in my Edgun, they group even at 60 yards for me, like you said, not a gimmick at all. @@tillysgunstocks
There's a new short version due soon I believe.i guess going off the popularity of the poly mag shorts h&n want a bit of the action. I think they are called a pistol version🤔
Id put a ceramic tip in a broad domed heavy .177….how? Well I’d get an 1/8 drill in a hand mandrel and centre mark the top of the pellet then super glue the ceramic tip in and I bet it would be a different story.
How do you think that plumbers putty would react against a rimfire I wonder ??
I dunno,but if you try it...let us know 😉
@@tillysgunstocks I am thinking layer of Kevlar, layer of that putty and another layer of Kevlar might make an effective solution....I think Kevlar is available at reasonable prices now in sheet form ??
If i owned a gun like that, I wouldnt put those pellets through it.
Try linseed oil putty, if you want to see the penetration
Over the years iv spent a couple hundred quid on the latest and greatest pellets my conclusion money wasted back in the 80s eley wasps where the go to now il stick with AA diablo. What rifle is that im after a new light weight hunter and that looks ideal 👍
Hi mate ,it's an airmaks katran. It's a tiny little thing. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I like it😉
The old Ely Wasp worked as well as anything with good quality springers ! I always liked DN’s “Hobby” flatheads for accuracy.
Both gimmick and Gamo start with G
And Gamo is pronounced like ham, it’s a Spanish company and the letter “a” in Spain is always pronounced as ah, “e” is eh and “I” as ee.
Do you remember the Sussex sabo,🤔👍
I do indeed, i might try and get some for a laugh .. 🤔
I bought a tub of Sabo (.177) back in the early 80's. Still got them but only about 30ish left.
They proved to be terribly inaccurate and the plastic fouled the rifling.
@@tillysgunstocks,I think blackpool air guns had some 🤔
I dont think id want to put those gamo things in my barrels! entertaing vid though.
Yep they could have potentially damaged the barrels,so kept the posh gear at home so I wasn't tempted to run them through the 9015
Why are you pronouncing Gamo as gaymo?? The owners of the company do not pronounce it like that at all
I think it's their nickname 😂
could not hit a cows arse at 10 yards with these!
Maybe one of them huge genetically modified bulls...from 5ft 😆
Another retake on the old sabo ammo from the 80s. Not great and very inaccurate.
The old sabo was a lethal pellet not sure if they were banned 🤔🤔
LOL, guess they'd be handy if your small game was wearing a ballistic vest. God, what garbage.