Gray-haired Balding Naruto FREAK Reacts to Why Hokage VS Admirals Isn’t Close
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- One piece vs Naruto is constantly being compared to one another and today, I'm reacting to TOP TIER characters duking it out. The Hokage vs the Admirals.
• Why Hokage VS Admirals...
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"Madara can summon meteors with his eyes closed" fujitora is literally blind lol he's not had his eyes open in years lmao
Yeah and it seems like he can spam it too
Prime reincarnated Madara needed Susanoo weaving signs. Fujitora moves his cane-sword 3 inches
@@scottlueken4792 thats pretty big
@@poker2531 absolutely ginormous
😂😂
When you said to imagine Akainu punches a hole in Hashiramas chest and asked what that was gonna do, I was sitting here like
"... Does he know that when Akainu punched that hole in White Beard, he also pumped him full of magma too?? Hashirama is getting Magmapied.👀"
magmapied is CRAZYYY LMAO
Also the fact that akainu can literally travel underground as we saw in marineford and he most likely has future sight with his haki, even if Hashira drops an explosive jutsu it won’t land on him. Even if he did he most likely can recover cause he has a logia DF
magmapied LMAO
Magmapied 😂
@@alrmalikk all the admirals have future sight bt dubs and also if no escape armament for defense and hashrima can't weave his hand signs fast enough
You could use the logia argument because in One piece we have seen logia get blown up to nothing but regenerate from nothing they do not get hurt or effected unless it's there natural counter part or haki
I know right. It's not when they're physically touched by another human being that they turn into the element. And if you snuff aces flameout it doesn't kill him. You have to have the exact opposite / counter element or haki
what this one said
I believe it 💯 but we need examples for the people they not going to believe it I’ve watch all of both Naruto and one piece logias can beat Naruto characters 😅
@@ericguthrie7447 luffy vs enel is really the only example (i think) in the story so far. rubber is literally the exact opposite to lightning so luffy could actually hit him
Kizaru vs apoo on sabaody is a great example of this
Best part is that we haven't even seen the full power of the admirals yet lol
Yeah imagine Sakazuki going all out against Gear 5 Luffy that would be a good fight
@@abdurrahmandureng I don't think akaniu will fight Luffy I think akaniu will fight sabo
@Reynard Espeña yeah but I don't think we are going to get a full blown fight between them they will probably clash a couple of times but I feel like Luffy will most likely fight imu or the goriesa
@@savaory4217 Nah I think shanks will fight luffy in the future and try to stop him from going any further in his journey to becoming pirate king.
@@TheProphetLot Yeah and to avenge Ace
"What are they gonna do against the 1000 arm buddha"
Raining giant magma fists on top of it would be pretty effective.
Edit: you really sleeping on Hiruzen. In his prime he was called God of Shinobi just like hashirama. He's also been stated as the strongest of the hokage, surpassing Hashirama.
@Guns66hes taking about statements mentioning Prime Hiruzen, who we have never seen fight
@Guns66 That's why i said that we have never seen a Prime Hiruzen fight lmao
I like how he says fujitora summoning a meteor is not impressive because Madara does the same thing but I ask CAN HE DO IT CONSTANTLY.
Now that is true Madara can summon a meteor but Fuji could pull any type of meteor from space it could bigger than the planet we don't know and madara needs chakra to do so while fuji is just using his natural powers
@@thomaszimmer371 fujitora could literally obliterate any enemy instantly so long as he's fine with going down too. major oversight
@@kjalmar it's not an oversight...cuz he can change the gravity to whatever area he wants ..and can manipulate the speed of which the meteor falls..so you're definitely wrong
Yes, Edo sensei Madara could spam meteors if he wanted to.
@@jan-deez7 true but I think fujitora can do it basically is base form
The admirals have precog too lol. They actually all have future sight. You could say Fujitora hasn’t proved to have future sight, but considering he depends on observation haki since he’s blind, and he’s an admiral who hasn’t shown his true power. I think it’s a good guess that all admirals have future sight honestly. If not, basic observation is very common which is precog
and it is really known that fujitora can have the best vision haki in the series because he is able to feel the meteorites he chooses from space
Well, it wouldn't make sense that he just uses his ability and waits for his ability to hit something, surely he uses his haki to sense the meteorites in space and choose one, if characters with less control of vision haki have access to the advanced vision haki then it is obvious that fujitora has it
@@leonardopineda8650 shanks and yasopp exist
Saying all of them have future sight is a bold speculation
@@shadoow411 And a bold* one.
@@nowelltheowl5619 auto correction but thanks
Fujitora literally summoned a meteor and told law and Doflamingo, he was just testing them😂
yeah but MAdara in Juubi form legit spawn 25 meteors like it was nothing..in a panel of Naruto those meteors almost cover the surface of the planet earth tho.so yes Fuji can spawn more meteors but Madara's meteors and just bigger and stronger.
@@mouaadsafou7459 so can fuji and he summons meteors as big as an island with just one slash of sword
@@mouaadsafou7459 Madara is not hokage
One thing people seem to mistake is that logia have a "human mode" and an "element mode" but it is stated that devil fruit users are literally their powers. For example, Luffy is literally a rubber man and Akainu is literally made out of magma.
Well it was stated by Crocodile in Alabasta that inexperienced logia users can be caught off guard by regular surprise attacks and that it requires training to reflexively activate your logia powers. So they do have a "normal mode" when they are inexperienced, however this wouldn't apply here given that they're all very experienced.
if you equalize the versus, then someone who can summon and ocean of water in a dessert like kisame should render akainu useless, i haven't see akainu summon magma to that scale.
@@swipernoswiping3053 it dont matter if they get blitzed tho
@@swipernoswiping3053 man look what akainu and aokiji did at punk hazzard
@@swipernoswiping3053underwater magma exist
So in theory he can just get real hot to the point where he evaporated every water in the area
When he fight in his full ability he can change an island landscape into blazing hot island, in one of the aftermath of the island he fight in the ocean is literally on fire
"Madara can do that with his eyes closed" yeah well Fujitora does it WITHOUT any eyes 🤣🤣🤣
Fujitora stepping 😂
madara one shots fuji slime mans was SPAMMING METEORS
@@yungsneezy20fujitora destroys madara
@@Raijin254limbo clone sneaks up on Fuji and takes his soul out with rinnegan
@@g.x.a.t..6408
Fuji being able to see souls and has observation haki so strong he can search into space for meteors: 🤷🏻♂️
Fuji: melts the verse🤷🏻♂️
I mean the admirals are just casually broken.
The thing that one pieces always have a upper hand on is insane durability and strength.
Believe me, these people will tank nukes
Considered most of them are Logia, no need to tank. No diff between nuke and summer breeze.
emphasize "nukes", plural
Pell solos with his nuke surviving feats
Whitebeard's quake punch is much stronger than a nuke and akainu got back in 5 minutes after taking it point blank
@@HyakuJuu_no_Kaido 3 of them*
The only times we've seen Madara summoning meteors (as far as I'm aware) is when he was in Edo (Unlimited Pool of Chakra) and as the 10 tails Jinchuriki (Near Unlimited Pool of Chakra), so saying he could "Do it with his eyes closed" is unlikely. Fujitora however can summon meteors relatively easily, and with seemingly little to no stamina loss. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
And the 5 kage he used the meteors on struggled to deal with it too
Dressrosa arc Fuji was summoning multiple meteors with no signs of fatigue at all.
Also Fuji's eyes are literally closed.
He pulled down 3 while eating noodles and levitating a battleship.
Pan Apple. The chakra is unlimited in Edo, you are completly right about it. Yet while reanimated (Edo) they are nerfed. So alive hokages where stronger. The only two charachters that may be stronger in Edo are Itachi Uchiha and Kimimaro.
“PLANETARY DEVASTATION!!”
Fujitora: “back up there you go”
Madara: 😮
The 😮 had me laughing ngl
then Madara ''would u like theses clones to use Susano or not?'' then Fuji ''oh mbd''.
@@mouaadsafou7459
Akainu: nah you’re good fam. Just stand back while Kizaru speed blitzes him.
@@mouaadsafou7459 Fuji: Do you want my meteors to descend upon you at the speed of sound, or light?
The thing is that we are using Naruto feats and statements from the final arc and One Piece feats from one of the last pre time skip arcs lmao💀 Also imagine the devil fruits awakened🗿
fr😭☠️
🗿💀
Well considering those homage are dead and are not in the current level of boruto u can’t really complain lol
These are the hokage whom been capable of the same thing before their death (except minato nine tail buff) on top of being characters who never advanced after Naruto not shippuden. 🤣 while all those admirals lived after having to jump white beard who was already sick.
P.S
If I’m wrong about the hokage not receiving buffs then tell me when did they train, if dead? And don’t say the Edo Tensei buff because it only gave infinite chakra not new skills 🤣🆗
And final arc is not strongest form.
No even Hashirama jutsu’s wouldnt affect Akainu. Maybe in this match up, which they specifically state they aren’t using the fact that Logia’s cant be damaged. However in an actual battle with the lore INTACT, Logias cant be hit no matter what you do unless you have Haki
We literally have a scene of Kizaru being engulfed by an explosion and it did nothing because you literally can’t harm a Logia unless you have Haki or unless you have a counter to their ability like how using water on Crocodile negates his sand logia.
Once you get more into One Piece you’ll see more on how Logia’s are literally just undefeatable without Haki.
Also, using Shadow Clones is useless because Observation Haki also operates as a “sense” ability so they can tell if thats the real person or not. Plus, Precognition means nothing since Observation Haki literally can let you see into the future as well as simple precognition
I see, thanks for the information regarding logias
So yall basically saying the only way akainu winning is because logia body thats terrible for the admirals ngl
@@mu2495 He's also much faster and has more stamina feats
armament haki is spiritual energy
chackra is the combination of physical and spiritual energy
literaly everyone in naruto have haki
Oda said that if akainu was a pirate he wouldve found the one piece in only 1 year! In comparison it took Roger 3 years, and currently, Luffy has been a pirate for 2 years
Not if akainu was a pirate but if he was the mc
That's taking into consideration he had his actual power and a lot of manpower, not starting from scratch
Roger did it in 1 year actually, but he was already well established as a Pirate before that
@@johon127This makes sense. For the most part.
@@Dredey04 That's because that was what Oda tried to convey, Akainu is a top 5 character in the verse, if he had made the MC a top 5 character in the verse from the start they would just breeze thru everything up until the yonkous, and with MC plot armor and all that stuff they'd just need to power up a little and win then claim it
Oda said that in the sense of serialization not in terms of powerscaling completely.He was trying to convey that if he made a op character the mc the series would be axed in a year because seeing a character succeed without struggle isn't engaging story.
Hashirama's getting mopped bro, I like him as well but yeah Naruto implements a lot more versatility into it's fights but One Piece's brute strength and speed are overwhelming.
I see that now from reading all these comments 😭
I think supernatural things like the Reaper Death Seal or the Totsuka Blade would be effective against the Admirals though, coz that's sealing your soul....if the opponent can get a hold of you tho😅
Maybe genjutsu's the way to win...
@@A.M_slime but then again genjutsu works on people with chakra, but sealing just works on anything or anyone.
@@damarionthomas701 it's insert charka to the opponent
if people without charka network come in contact with charka with malice
they burn and be poisoned supernaturally
even with charka network it's still happen
that is not true bro...there's way more impressive feat in term of strenght and speed in Naruto than op. lets be realistic
They can't do all the admirals because we don't have enough information on all of them yet, just the main four
We also have greenbull but so far he’s only revealed in the manga
There’s also not 7 admirals
Disrespecting Jiraiya has to be the best April fools joke ngl
yeah it was a good bait
Dude, admirals stomp.
@@rowlanddavid1576 did I say anything about admirals or hokage?
@@kklightning5693 he's not lying though
@rowlanddavid1576 no they don't Hashirama solos all the admirals alone
Well to put this simply, Law can cut an entire island in half in one swing without breaking a sweat, just flexing on his opponent.... This was a while ago so he was much weaker. He awakened his devil fruit power as well
The Admirals mid diff Law, and Yonkos low Diff Law.
i think i would argue that the admirals excluding fujitora could take most of the Yonkos
@Jonas Sorensen Yeah...No. Buggy and maybe Big Mom and Luffy, but they can't touch Shanks, Kaido, or Blackbeard
@@kdawgtb bruh buggy solos the navy
@@CrazyAce777777 I don't know, I think Jango and Helmeppo could take Buggy on
@@kdawgtb bro, akainu literally soloes shanks, and is on par with kaido
He did 18x150 since Zoro was dodging the pastifcas light beam attacks and the pastifcas are 18 Times the speed of light and haki is a 150 times multiplier
so we just spouting random nonsense now?
@@adam-dn3hi go debunk their calc then
@@mrwhite5630 the pacifistas are never stated to be 18 times the speed of light and haki is not a multiplier
@@adam-dn3hi Not the pacifistas, Zoro dodging their light beams and they explained the power boost of haki and low balled to get a multipler. They could have just said because haki it's 300 times stronger or something stupid like that but they showed evidence.
@@theoneguywhoisatalk6331 Not going to lie, it completely amazes me how power scaler so casually tack on the phrase "speed of light" on some feats when that is not true at all. Just because a character dodges a light speed attack does not mean that they are "light speed". In almost all cases these characters are only reacting at percentage of the speed of light. Unless there is physical proof that characters are able to literally keep pace or move faster than a beam of light, then they are not faster than light.
Say for example a light beam is being fired at a random person. The person begins to dodges when the laser 9 meters away and moves a total of 0.75 meters before the light beams hits the spot where they were standing before. This tells us that the person is reacting at around 8.3% the speed of light.
How did I get this magic number? We get this by using the relation of D=VT where D is distance, V is velocity, and T as time. In this case, the T would be the same as it takes the exact same amount of time for the light beam to move 9 meters as the person to dodge 0.75 meters. Using this, we can rewrite the equation as T=D/V. Since T is equal to each other, we can rewrite it as D/V=D/V. Now we can plug in our values. The light beam moved 9 meters at a velocity of 299,792,458 meters per second while our person dodged 0.75 meters at an unknown velocity so now we can write it as 9/299,792,458 = 0.75/x where x is the unknown velocity. Solving for x, we get x = (299,792,458*0.75)/9 which comes out to x = 24,982,704.83 meters per second. And what do you know, our character is only 8.3% the speed of light.
TLDR: Get your physics and math correct before you start arguing light speed feats.
6:40 it actually is impressive since he can spam it because devil fruits don't use physical stamina unlike Chakra
some devil fruits do use stamina, but i don't think logia do
yes some devil fruits do for example laws devil fruits consumes his stamina
@@kjalmar only fruits that uses stamina is paramecia and zoans. logias dont use stamina whatsoever
@@olly213gotta be on the slow spectrum. Of course it consumes stamina because most logia users attacks require using their logia 😱🤦🏽♂️
@@4thking331 ay that was me back when i was at the alabasta arc bruh i already know that logias does consume stamina
'What will they do against the thousand armed Buddha?'
I mean... Ryukugyu isn't on the list but... a Forest Logia devil fruit. Easy win.
Or just Akainu's Magma fruit.
I think you're hard underestimating the importance of speed. Hashirama is so much slower that he literally doesn't have time to think before he's dead. Doesn't matter which of the admirals he's fighting, it'd be true for all of them.
So much slower bruh stop it prime sage mode hashirama is the same speed as alive ems prime madara who’s mtftl nice try
@@too_official6194did you watch the video? If not then please do, there is literally statistical evidence and numbers shown if you get confused
I extremely agree, you can’t really enter sage mode and then use true thousand arms kanon if you’re dead within a single second
@@jackrabb1t791 u obviously don’t watch Naruto I watch both verse’s multiple times buddy face it they get mopped 😭😭
@@too_official6194 mftl 💀naruto is the slowest of the big 3 wallahi
One thing I'd like to point out is that chakra acts like a type of fuel for attacks. You can use it a lot but eventually it'll run out. Haki is different. The more you use it in battle the stronger it'll get. Meaning that as the battle goes on longer, the Hokage will slowly get weaker but the Admirals will slowly get stronger.
Haki can also be depleted too! Sure it's rare but it's directly tied to how much stamina a character has , if someone gets too tired out they can't use their Haki , Haki is more like a sword than an energy source, you can swing it as long as you don't burn out
@@nicholasaugello2534 no it can not i think ur thinking of when luffy could not use haki cuz of gear 5 but thats because its depleting his lifespan stated by Reighly, fujitora has been literally using advance obsvation haki to see for years and so has katakuri since his always seeing the future so u cant run out of haki
@@Mazdhagod that had to be nauseating for katakuri at first lol
@@Mazdhabruh u tb observation haki not armnament, think.
We only know Luffy to run out of energy using Haki because he pushes his Haki to the limit for 10 minutes straight. Everyone else uses it in moderation and we haven’t heard of anyone doing what Luffy has. It’s simply a way for him to increase his dmg and defense output but it’s a double edged sword and not worth it for many since once you’re out you’re hakiless for 10 minutes minimum.
17:04
Let me just say some things here.
1.) Observation Haki would most likely be able to see through the wood clones, basically like a better Byakugan.
2.) Akainu also has insane endurance and stamina, given the fact he fought with Aoukiji for ten days straight without any time to rest.
3.) Akainu most likely has comparable BIQ to Hashirama, given the fact that he is the fleet admiral, and he would need high BIQ to do that job effectively (more or less speculation) and he also knows how to effectively provoke enemies, as seen with Ace.
19:15
Also, it’s most likely all the Admirals have Advanced Observation Haki, which essentially allows them to see into the future.
Yep. Not just precog that helps you anticipate the future, but outright future telling if it's not interrupted by the user.
I would like to mention there is no better counter to Akainu's element of logia then Ice and that still did not cancel him out
@@thomaszimmer371 cause he took the leg of the bloke who tried😭😭😭
@@rowlanddavid1576 Poor bloke 🥲
Oh…I take it back then
They massively highballed the Hokage by saying the Raikage is light speed. If he was actually light speed, then Naruto dodging Madara's light fang wouldn't be impressive but they act like it is. The one piece characters are highballed too imo, but not nearly as much
I think Admirals were lowballed tbh they going crazy in manga rn barely showing off what they can ACTUALLY do
@@marquesperez942Tbf this reaction vid was like 6 months ago and I think the actual video is close to a year ago so it’s out dated atm. But the admirals are finally getting their time to go all out so it’ll definitely be a sight. Will also make people stop shitting on them
The 18 came from zoro's speed feet against the 18x light speed beam
One Piece fans are really dumb.Flashy light doesn't mean Light speed.Light speed takes 0.13 sec to travel around entire earth.(it can go around earth 8 times in 1 second).And you jokers making your own happiness like 2000x faster than light.If you're faster than light,it's just faster than light.(still light speed).It will not be 2x of light speed.The funniest thing is you don't realize how much gap between Light speed and 2x light speed.And never forget Luffy can't even run through the ocean.If he's fast enough he easily can.
OK, the titles are really getting so out of hand that I don’t even know what to say and I’m still laughing at it😂🤣😆
Can’t wait for the next one
😂😂
bro is SLOBBERING Hashirama😫😫😫💀💀💀
Logias can basically regenerate infinitely and only be hurt by a counter element.
Hashirama: can regen better than 1000 healing jutsu as long as its not evaporized
Logia: can regenerate from nothing
And his counter element was aokiji and still won after fight 10 days straight, and if they awaken their df, rip
@@nongmaithemcentury7587 they both kinda cancel each other out
@@nongmaithemcentury7587water evaporate fire but on the other hand water can put out fire
So they are not a counter element
Im suprised they didnt mention that akainu and aokiji fought for 10 straight days on punk hazard
not going to lie, ive seen some of these titles and I'm subscribing because these things are funny as f***
Ayyy thank you!!😂
Honestly, at the current stage, OP’s big hitters can take the shinobi world as of the war. The only thing beyond OP’s strongest right now is Naruto’s peak, wherein characters would be sitting at Moon Level thanks to The Last, and even then, I’d say not to count them out too quickly, because there’s still some series to go. (Note: Not including Boruto because that’s basically the GT of Naruto at this point)
The Last is a movie and isn’t cannon. Also destroying the area around them isn’t going to kill them. Doesn’t matter how potent Naruto’s attacks are because you can’t destroy matter. Even if you give Naruto Advanced Conquers, Armament, and future sight haki. It would just end with whoever’s faster. That being the admirals
@@Jt18718The last is LITERALLY the only canon movie. Movie doesn’t instantly equal “not canon” and who else has said it’s not canon cause this is a first for me?
Akainu and Aokiji fought for 10 days straight
And on the Island they were fighting on they perminently changed the entire ecosystem to be a half frozen wastland and half burning hellscape.
exactly. the hokage just can’t keep up with the admirals. straight up
for the hashirama shadow clone thing its uselss obv haki can show who is real it allows it plus future sight is a thing
Yeah obv haki can sense the real person by there will alone
you think shadow clones or wood clones would work on people who can literally see the future not just standard procog also the ability to sense people’s feelings and intent so clones via advanced observation haki? Also Akainu and Akoji both fought each other for several days so Hashirama’s stamina isn’t exactly going to help him against a opponent who is faster has better attacks and has future sight and insane durability
hashirama has max fought Madara for 1 hole day where we see them both tired and madara lying on the ground and hashirama kneeling but Akainu and Aokiji faught for 10days and PERMANETLY Terra formed the landscape unintentionally Punkhazard has been half cold and half magma fro two years after the battle
@@MazdhaWe got a small show case of what the admirals could do when they got serious. Don’t forget they turned the island into a donut too 💀
Hashirama will not be able to hit Akainu purely because of the speed difference
Yeah but we also don't know Sakazuki's full power yet.
Sakazuki imo is probably above old whitebeard cuz he held back during Marineford
@@Touchmygrass Akinu literally almost died to that Whitebeard , I'm sure he got stronger since then but like Old WB was still cracked
He drops the thousand arm Buddha. Akainu can counter by turning the entire Feild to lava on some broly movie shit. Without the worry of destroying their home island these boys can output enough of their Element to coat huuuge areas of space
madara can do that with his eyes closed
me: fujitora is legit blind LMAOOOO
There’s a lot wrong with the video and a lot I don’t agree with but the 1 thing I can agree on is that the admirals DESTROY the hokage, personally I don’t think it’s close at all
They’re stronger in basically every single way, much higher physical stats and much better hax, only exception is that the hokage are smarter
Fujitora got lowballed and still would slam Hiruzen
Bro desperate to get Hashirama a win 🤣🤣🤣
The sad reality is that they are all logia users so all physical attacks would just go right through the admirals cuz they can manifest themselves as the element itself. That’s why I think that tobirama would probably carry the fight because genjutsu is their go to and also if ninjutsu works against logia hax, his really powerful water style jutsus could counter the strongest admiral (Akainu who has the magma magma fruit).
Not really tho
Magma still can evaporate water. So Akainu can just spam attack before Tobirama rans out of chakra
@@silhouette9699 facts didn’t think about that one. That means that the fight isn’t even close
for genjustu to work they need to have chakra which they dont if they did cuz of Verse equalization that would mean that admiral cold just use there haki to negate the effects of the genjustu
@@silhouette9699have you seen what magma looks like submerged under a abundant amount of water? 😭
@@4thking331it's still burning at the deepest coldest parts of the ocean. It can get encased in a shell but he can create an infinite amount
Hashirama vs Akainu is the closest we get. They both are so undiscovered yet that I can't have any confident answer but let me say one thing....yk how strong luffy is now? I can't see him 1v1 Akainu yet because that man is way more of a monster than kaido or whitebeard because HE FREAKING ACTS LIKE A MONSTER. Kaido and whitebeard are kinda chill as kaido will tell you some weird ass story after defeating you before he kills you, whitebeard is not killing most likely but that man will make you fall down....and will freaking melt your family and friends on you so that their melted corpes fall on you causing you death by heat. That man will fight hashirama for a whole month and even more until he kills him
"Madara can do that with his eyes closed." So can the literally blind guy Fujitora lmao.
" This blind guy doing that is not too impressive, this other guy that single handedly fought an entire army could do it with his eye closed "
I recommend that you better see the youtuber "Steinixos" versus, he makes versus well explained and relies completely on the context instead of relying on things like guides, he is very well explained and makes you understand why a certain character has that power or why a certain character beats the other
23:17 wow what a thought , the first think hokage's gonna notice watching akainu would be ," omg , its akainu , he is like a even though he looks like a kekegenkai user , we should seal him" tf u thinking
Being that I saw kizaru legit get blown in half and be completely fine and ace legit saying that a normal logia wouldnt be affected by a fire attack(bb fight), I quite sure elemental advantage and haki are the only outs
the only way the kage are winning is if they have the exact element to use against the admirals. idk what you'd use against akainu, but darkness against kizaru and lava against kuzan. idek if kuzan can be countered because he fought akainu, who uses the magma fruit, for days. I would assume he'd have lost a lot more than a leg if akainu didnt even have to use haki
@@kjalmar akainu and kuzan are counters to eachother
Kuzans ice is too cold to be melted by anything except magma
Akainus magma is too hot to be put out by anything other than extreme cold
It’s also useful to mention that Kuzans fruit, the Hiya Hiya no Mi, isn’t actually an ice devil fruit like people think….it’s moreso just *cold* in general
@@Kurotama11 I actually didn't know that about his fruit. I thought it was ice for the longest time
@@kjalmarnope his a cold Human and his fruit is the chilly chilly fruit he also reach absolute zero in the beginning and when he fought jozu he went beyond that
@@firefistace5230 He has never reached absolute zero, when has that ever been stated? Also, you can't go beyond absolute zero.
All the hokage feats been locked in but for the admiral’s we still haven’t seen them go all out
Explosions aren't going to hurt logia but I think with a sealing jutsu even a basic one they might win. But a few atomized the lava it doesn't hurt him. Unless you counter his Element no matter what you do to his element it will not hurt him.
the sealing could be true but not the gates he was talking about i mean what is stoping akainu from just going underground and popping up somewhere else he is freaking magma afterall.
@@Zeblon44 very true.
Only if you use verse equalization can the Hokage damage the Admirals. And if that’s the case then, the Admirals get stomped. Without verse equalization, the Admirals win.
U do realize One piece characters could fight for days and even weeks right?
Stamina and durability is mad crazy in OP
No I didn’t tbh
@@alrmalikk most devil fruits is very spamable and you won't use any stanima for using attack.
Aokiji fought against for 10 days bro
@@alrmalikk akainu fought with aokiji for 15 days creating punk hazard the island thats half ice half magma forever(the fight changed the terrain forever, one pieces earth is a dwarf star so the country that was created during the fight is near the size of narutos planet, not to mention he is 2,7kx times the speed of light is a lowball. the highball is 50kx the speed of light. he will magma pie inside of hashirama's anus go back slap him 60 million times nut and hashirama would not even notice a thing. speedblitz
The 18 was the bare minimum he could multiply to get the admirals speed. So he could’ve went for a higher number but he opted for the lowest possible.
Titles are godly lmaoo
😂
The thing about logia is that the user becomes the element. So if they’re magma and get nuked, nothing happens since matter can’t be destroyed nor created. So therefore they can transfer back. Also it’s shown that Akainu gets chunk cut out of him and instantly refills that area.
the biggest problem are the logia's in one piece. 2 people that are essentially unstoppable are kizaru and enel both represent subatomic particles being photons and electrons, there so tiny that it can barely be affected/ touched, nukes wouldn't do a single thing and we've seen this in film z where kizaru got hit with a nuke that destroyed an island point blank, like right in his face, and he came out unscathed, same with enel, even one of the strongest jutsus the atomic dismantling jutsu wouldn't work as its made to dismantle the bonds of 2 or more atoms have and since there smaller there subatomic there unfazed,
what's crazy is even with a conceptual attack by scratchman apoo ( for yall bleach fans u know what im talking about illieo bario vs the mirror) no one was able to hit kizaru until scartchman technique that harms anyone that listens to his music be it mutilation or explosion except even that didn't affect kizaru.
now the other op df user is aokiji he has the freeze fruit which isn't an element but an actual concept which is crazy cut how do u beat freeze its one thing if hes ice but he's freeze ???
now this is what made me realize the logia are bit too op they have reliant regen, meaning depending on there element they rely on a certain area to regenerate at basically it's like creating a spawn point, we've seen this multiple times,
akainu got vaporized by ivankovs death wink, i thought aww shit its going to take him forever to pick up all the pieces, but nope he regenerated/spawned in a new spot area, like wtf thats more broken than having ban from 7 deadly sins regen as u dont have 1 body u choose anywhere to become reborn,
aokiji as freeze is better than akainu as he can relay anywhere to regen be it air water or land he just freezes the moisture in the air
while akainu is the weakest at regen as he can only spawn via ground he cant make the air into lava no he can turn the ground into magma,
kizaru is also as broken as aokiji since hes light and there's photons everywhere he can spawn in the air ground or water, as even the ocean acts as a mirror for light,
Greenbull the new admiral also showed this spawn regen he got blasted by a beam of fire and just chose to respawn at another area.
fujitora is the only bum here as he has zero regen but but hes like pain and madara where he controls gravity/ the preta path he has so much prison that he can pinpoint rubble on top of thousand of citizens and carefully picking it up he has a really good sage mode sense lol, he can also effortlessly summon meteors, he did it while eating ramen while carrying a whole fleet of ships behind him like thats some star wars shit.
he also has one of the strongest moves in one piece, remember how fast and strong was might guy ? he was the 1st character to be acknowledged as the strongest human by madara why because he bent space and time itself, he moved so fast and created so much force that he warped madaras body and as soon as space returned it violently ripped him apart, nearly killing madara
now fuji did the same thing but aoe version on 2 mountains, he hit luffy with it and man is luffy lucky because since he's a rubber man he didn't get ripped to shreds like Madera lol, it's called fierce tiger,
fujitora is a craazy ass dude like he loves nuking himself, remember how madara told kabuto were lucky we got reanimation cuz the meteors aimed right at us,
well fujitora did this against law and doffy he stood there and spammed meteors to see if they can cut it and when it blew up in his face he just used gravity to shield himself
now whos surviving well the god of shinobi has lasted with madara for 24hrs straight whenever they fight were told to get ready to redraw the maps, as mountains get blown and craters are shown, hashirama has insane regen so much so that the damn verse uses his cells for everything lol, they gave naruto a new arm cuz of hashirama cells they were able to make sharigan work on non sharigan users with hashirama cells,
the only ninja that was comparable to hashirama was the 3rd raikage who fought for 3 days straight against 10 thousand ninja,
no other ninja came close to that stamina lvl, now for admirals theres 2 particular that done the same as hashirama vs madara they both fought at a secluded island and rewritten the map for the island, they fought for 10 days straight, in which it permanently changed the ecosystem of the island half of it is molten lava with the ocean burning having flames on top the other half is an ice age, it's crazy how they turned standard mountains into active volcanoes, u know how deep u gotta go into the earth's crust to make a volcano u gotta break the continental crust which is about 25 miles deep, then to the 1st mantle layer which is 416 miles deep like wtf ???
and whats crazy is they both did this in the 1st day the moment they reached the island they strolled to the center and just there commute alone permanently changed the island, now i won't give kizaru or fujitora that 10 day stamina, but green bull has been shown to never tire as he's a forest man and represents mother nature, he just uses the solar energy, he was so lazy he didn't eat anything for 2 years,
that's absolutely nuts as for fighting he fought the 9 scabbards with them using haki and he did not tire he kept regenerating and using the sun as energy this is kinda unfair lol, but it reminds me of naruto and 9 tails when naruto is busy fighting the 9 tails is storing chakra.
After 1 day the only fighters left standing will be hashirama, akainu and aokiji, now 7 more days and i just don't see hashirama continuing. He fought for 24 hrs using sage mode against madara tiring themselves out 9 more days idk about that.
as for true one thousand hands both akainu and aokiji have shown awakenings, which allows u to change the area u touch into ur element, changing wood into lava or earth into ice, the fight will bea rinse and repeat of this,
now if u think they're too small to affect all of hashiramas wood i understand but aokiji has shown wild feats he's froze over 3 islands worth of ocean, each island is 30 miles across 90 miles total,
hashirama's true 1 thousand hands statue is calced to be 3,200 meters tall thats 1.9 miles long thats huge but still 90 miles of ocean in 1 second... even if it took him a min he has 10 days to spam this
and that's the problem with logais there not just broken in the naruto verse but broken in the one piece verse no one has killed a logia user, oda was inspired by terminator not by how dangerous it is but by how it can keep getting back up, the fear of the undying is terrifying, if it was commanders in one piece yea i can see hashirama winning but logias awww man
So logais again are like obitos intangibility kinda like suigetsu except regen and respawnabiity
The titles are just keep getting crazier and crazier 🤣
Bro can't accept that Akainu washes Hashirama 😂
as someone who loves both, i think one piece power scaling just goes far beyond the kages. Most of the admirals we have yet to even see their full power yet and simply put observation haki alone lets them keep up with most if not any speed types like might guy without them even moving.
the issue with power scaling the two verses is that the one peice earth is 10x bigger than naruto eqarth so a small island in onne piece like amazon lilly is the size of an entire nation in naruto so while we have ppl in one pice destroying those with ease there are ppl in naruto that kan summon meators of the same lvl and it jus makes it konfusing and hard to powerscale the two
Something very important to know about Devil Fruit users is that when they use their powers, it's not the same as a jutsu. You're not 'using chakra' the devil fruit is a part of your body. Akainu IS magma, he doesn't 'use mana' or whatever to summon the magma, he 'IS' the magma.
I can’t remember everything u said but for shadow clone akainu got obs haki and just so u know akainu fought aokiji the ice admiral for 10 days straight so they also got insane Stam like hasirama
"madara can do it with eyes closed"
issho: and i don't have eyes
brook: same here yohohohohohoho
17:32 akianu can tell the difference because he has observation haki
I'm not rolling with that 18x the speed of light calculation 🤣
8:08 He really paused it and tried to read it 💀
Him trying to use Haki as a speed multiplier was dumb too tbh….he tried to justify it by doing the math of power needed to destroy a wall with a normal arrow vs haki, but doing so ignores the fact that Haki (armament) literally just makes things harder
The arrow becomes harder than the wall, allowing more damage done to the wall with the same force applied by the arrow
@@Kurotama11 Yeah, I understood the logic behind the Haki Arrow calculation, but I don't agree with applying that to speed.
@@jadedcode8953 can see that on the arrows part. But I see where they are coming from, with the standpoint of haki imcreasing speed. Especially with the claims of Haki fighters getting stronger when fighting stronger opponents. This is definitely true with power and speed. The best examples of this are with Luffy imo with his battles with Katakuri and Kaido. He got faster during the battles when his haki improved. However do I agree with the 150x multiplier from the arrows calcs……not really. The best bet would be to 1st of all scrap the arrows calc lol😂, then 2nd of all leave it up to interpretation for now. Which i could put at a 10x amp. But maybe advanced conquerors level could get crazy, and be at that over 100x amp. I can buy that.
@@DeProvodo it’s NEVER ONCE stated that Luffys speed increases with his Haki in the Kat fight
In fact, the whole point of Snakeman was that he *explicitly needed a boost in attack speed* which was specifically done by the constant redirection of his attacks
Same with the Kaido fight. Luffys *speed* never changes. He’s able to “dodge” the Thunder Bagua the second time because he uses future sight and literally sees it coming. For the rest of the fight Luffy doesn’t even do anything speed based…he’s taking damn near every hit Kaido throws at him. There’s even a moment where Kaido *copies* the movement/speed of a snakeman attack and Luffy is caught completely off guard.
Haki has three type which have very specific effects. Armament/Hardening is exactly as it’s named. It’s an armor that hardens things it’s applied to. Observation, the same, it heightens how much you can observe. The only Haki that’s a straight multiplayer is Adv.CoC and even that doesn’t apply to *speed* as far as we know. I think a lot of these assumptions ignore the fact that one piece characters are just physical beasts when they want to be generally.
Even without that Haki calc Luffy was already mftl at whole cake. And that Luffy would be slower than the Admirals.
Says fujitora is weaker than the other admirals lol fujitora -"hold my supreme grade blade!"
Logia works like suigetsu in naruto. How karin punch throw his head and he reshape.
To damage hin you have to use specific elements like lightning.
Its the same with logia vs other verse matchups ❤
It doesn’t matter how big your brain is if your opponent moves 2000x faster than u
akinu is very big as well so like if he punched hasirama thats like half if not his entire body gone because hes mare than half of whitebeard height who stands at like 22 feet tall
ma man don't know about AWAKENING THE DEVIL FRUITS IN ONE PIECE
My problem with this versus is that they take a lot of liberties with naruto, I explain:
They take as a basis to explain the power of the first hokage who fought against Kurama and take the information from Kurama that says "he has locked up the power that can turn the world to ashes" but that guide of course is totally exaggerated, Kurama to this day It has not shown anything close to being a planetary level, in the same guide it says that Temari can destroy the world with an attack or that a certain character can kill a god, these are titles that exaggerate things and should not be taken seriously, but these subjects take it as something real, the problem is the context, the same context and what each character has shown must be taken into account and not just exaggerated titles of a guide
Yeah context is a very important thing when it comes to guides, in the case of the Naruto Databook in particular it's extra important due to a lot of titles and descriptions in there being Hype Statements that aren't meant to be taken literally. The Naruto Databooks are also filled with mistranslations, so you end up having to search up the original Kanji to make sure it's *correctly* translated, otherwise you end up with dumb shit like Omnipotent Kakashi or Outerversal Pein 😅
how i view that is kurama having the power to "turn the world to ash" is destroying all life on earth, not blowing up the planet. If that makes sense
Plus at that point in time the best feat was calced to country - Continental.
That's why I never believed the 9 tales was planetary, it's literally half of the 10 tales chakra , half a planet would be (guessing multi continental) cuz like the 10 tales's appearing was like really bad for the planet alone his AP is probably higher but the regular 9 tales pales in comparison
brother called himself gray-haired balding naruto freak LOL
its been shown in the manga sabo was on an island that got blown to nothingness and survived it because of is logia devil fruit sooooo DATS TUFF
It isnt confirmed that he survived tho?
@@niilo8481 sthu
@@niilo8481 well i guess it is now
@@niilo8481it is confirmed that he survive
these titles getting more and more wild
15:55 I think ur missing the point of what a logia is. They are legit that element and can't take damage. So even if you blow them up or obliterate them, you can keep attacking the puddle of lava (in this case) until u get bored and then they just form back cuz they legit took 0 damage. Without haki u can't damage them.
This is why I think these anime character comparison are lame. To many special abilities and rules in every series for them to be compared...
13:07 he put the leader of the admirals vs the first hokage, he put them like this because they're the top dogs:)
how are any one piece characters ftl when narratively kizaru is the fastest character in one piece and he is exactly the speed of light so every other characters is below the speed of light. These power scalers really be pulling numbers out of thin air. The guy in this video said because sanji dodged a beam that is apparently 18x the speed of light and when you attack haki to an arrow it gets 150x stronger suddenly anyone who is as fast as pre time skip sanji and has the haki of a random girl with the weakest haki in one piece you are 1800x the speed of light😂😂.
I'm a massive one piece fan but this is a massive stretch. W vid btw
Kizaru is suppose to be the fastest that true however what's also true is that there are attacks from characters other than kizaru that are stated to move at the speed of light. I don't think it's crazy to say that one piece characters are flt when you have guys like enel, foxy with his slow slow beams, kuma who all have abilities/techniques that move at light speed. Infact kizaru could probably move faster than light if he really wanted to due to him probably being awakened his devil fruit and we know for a fact that haki does increase strength and speed as in luffy vs kaido luffy was barely able to dodge kaido's thunder baguwa when he unlocked advanced conquer's haki then when he masters it he's able to dodge and counter attack. He literally showed where he got the numbers from you said so yourself. Also you have to take into account the characters base speed just having strong haki or haki in general doesn't make you faster than light as seen with zoro dodging Kuma's speed light attack you don't need haki to be faster than light
Yeah those numbers where definitely pulled out of his ass. Though capping the verse at LS through Kizaru doesn't make sense when many fruits are not limited to what their natural counterparts irl are. There's nothing capping Kizaru at lightspeed so theres no reason to assume that's his maximum speed, just like Akainu's magma isn't just the temperature of ordinary magma. Even Mid Tier characters have LS Statements and Feats let alone Kizaru, who may have increased proficiency in his fruit or a possible awakening.
@@elviswilliams1131 true but no way is any op character anywhere near 1800 times the speed of light. At best they are 2 or 3 times
@@150Hello true but there’s no reason for anyone in op to be above LS. I prefer to scale based on what makes sense narratively farther than using maths because maths in anime never works. No character other than kizaru has any 100% proof of LS. Also out running a laser is not proof of LS since lasers are typically way slower than light in not just anime but general media for example in og dragon ball 12y old goku being able to match the speed of lasers or in Star Wars people blocking lasers when obviously they are not LS
@@bud_of_old I think you're underestimating one piece its is fictional after all they don't have to apply to real world physics so way can't they move a 1000× the speed of light it sounds crazy but it's not impossible but even if it's not they are wayy faster than 2 or 3 times thats just downplaying one piece
I wise man once said"We shall never understad how power scalling in anime works, nor why tf people keeps calculating frames."
The scaling in that vid was goofy but admirals do stomp.
bro you saying it like akainu would just stand there and watch the tailed beast bomb instead of dodging it
The explosion radius is MASSIVE THO
@@alrmalikk yeah but like he said in the video akainu can be scaled to light speed
@@alrmalikk True but in naruto attacks are more flashy than powerful in one piece they dont shoot out giant blast theyre more contained
power scaling has always been dumb imo and makes no sense. honestly i dont really think we should even try to power scale characters from different animes. ppl just pull out the most insane numbers and scale ppl to others with feats they might not even be able to do just because they beat them in a fight. its a waste of time no one actually knows its all just speculation and guess work and bias usually plays a huge role. its interesting to watch ppl go to this much effort though to prove their characters are the strongest. lol
i have seen people try to downplay the one piece verse and say that there is only one person who is ftl
Yeah that’s crazy and lowkey hating. The one piece verse is hella strong
Their argument is "Kizaru is a light man so no one can be FTL" and this argument doesn't work because you can't just ignore all of the other blatantly FTL feats, Statements and Multipliers that happen throughout the series, especially in a series where elements are not restricted to what their naturally capable of doing irl.
You see this same type of nonsense with the "Only LS/Low FTL Dyspo" for DBS, when the verse literally had MFTL feats and scaling since Namek, SMH.
Even Mid Tier Fodders like Sanji's brothers have LS/FTL feats and statements 😂
@@150Hello mawww even dragon ball? THATS JUST PLAIN CRAZY
one thing about that first match up you and the original video didnt consider, hashirama combines earth and water style to create his wood style. he can use water and earth alone as well as wind lightning and fire. no way with at least basic knowledge of all normal elemental releases and his own wood type mastered he loses. especially when its already proven natural things like water can effect logias when luffy uses water(and then his own blood when he runs out of water) to make his punches connect to crocodile instead of going thru his sand body.
Dude, the scaling is wild, but generally, One piece characters are way faster. Just not near 2700xftl😂
Frrrrr I was like HUH??
"I never really cared about hiruzen"
Me: "yeah I get it neither did I"
"And jiraiya"
Me: "so you have chosen death?"
2:40
Melt it
Freeze it
Fry it
Options are plentiful…
Squish it :>
Plentiful just as you said
Bro the lighting man basic attack is basically a nuke💀💀
You can’t count dms for kakashi because he did not have it when he was hokage
Fair🥴
I just found your UA-cam channel today I already love your content keep up the great work
Welcome aboard!
I really don't get the point of videos like these
Short version: DBZ Chars > Bleach Chars > Naruto Chars > One Piece Chars
You can always debate about what is the better show pr whose the better character but saying that person is weaker than that person is not an argument.
Example: Sakura is infinitely stronger than Nami (duh), and yet Nami is about 100x better written
But sakura can take a blow from Zeus? I don't remember much about sakura, What do you think bro?
I don’t know about that to be honest nami seem physically stronger with her gags and in her cover pages with her gags she has all 3 types of haki and can punch luffy zoro and sanji off the ryugu palace and to be honest her gag are looking like they going to be a reailty.
in a cover panel in the beginning she beat a whole giant snake and in skypeia she was driving on a bean stock with luffy and gold on his arm she even punched luffy so hard in a giant snake mouth the snake was crying in pain but Sakura is definitely stronger than nami with her chakra and her 100 healing justu
@@kenzoog8349hell naw even the seraphim took damage from that one attack with flames on
Been watching your vid because of the title
Yes madara can summon meteors but last i checked in op meteors aren't scary and in naruto they are
Not to mention he can spam said meteors😂
@@ilikeredhairs4583 Wait so is fujitora using observation to sense the meteors in space or is he just shooting it out and praying cuz if its the former then thats fucking amazing.
@@Zeblon44 he senses the meteors using his devil fruit, you see he cant create meteors, for example hes literaly blind, but uses the gravity to actualy see without having eyes, for summoning those meteors he does indeed have to use the gravity on that scale to sense a random meteor somewhere n change its tragectory towards an opponwnt he must really hate 🤣
@@Zeblon44 i hope i couldve explained well
@@ilikeredhairs4583 He's actually using observation haki to see around him not the devil fruit itself.
Bro getting hella creative these videos titles bro 🤣
its all fun and games until you realize Hashirama has to use hand signs before he gets blitzed lmfao also a fist inside Hashirama? Akainu is the type of guy to not stop at a fist through someone, not only that, but he's not hitting you with a normal fist it's a Magma fist, and he's blowing you up from the inside lmfao. Hashirama gets stomped
All fun and games til hashirama puts him in a 4 crimson Ray formation strong enough to hold the 10tails and the use his poison flower to kill him gg😂
@@jaybronx98 All fun and games till he realize he needs 3 more ninja to do it 💀💀💀 and even then would still get blitzed before he could start it
@@toosmoofoyou that’s what his clones are for bozo😂😂 and no he wouldn’t get blitzed bruh dodged a bijuu bomb point blank and is capable of reacting to ems madara and kurama at the same time even before using sage mode.
@@jaybronx98 Wtf is a wood clone finna do to Akainus magma and again, Hashirama ain't no bitch to deal someone like that even if he could pull it off what 💀💀💀. Stop tryna make that man seem like he'd do some shit when he finna get rolled either way and so??? That's still slower than Marine Ford Akainu 💀💀💀
@@toosmoofoyou readings fundamental my guy lmaoo I just told you what he would do. Akainu magma ain’t doing shit to a dude who can regen instantly and have his wood golems catch bijuu bombs😂😂 prove he’s slower than marineford akainu. Don’t just say anything unless u can back it up bruh🤣
I love how this guy WAY after the 1st fight uses pointes that the other guy makes after the fight for example when the other guy says fugitora atamizes hiruzen he’s like hasharama atamizes Akianu ( for give my death spelling)😊
But do you think that Gear 5 Luffy can solo the 4 Hokages and Madara tho?
The ones listed there, probably. If they're fighting by a body of water, and the demon can use an actual source for his water jutsu, as opposed to chakra jutsu, it'll be a problem though.
The rest get stupidly clapped.
yes but idk about rinnesharingan juubidara tbh. Any other version yes
The new admiral disrespect is wild
Youre right, sealing jutsu is a nice counter to logia intangibility
What's the seal made out of Haki and Sea prism stones 💀
@@Anti-World_TheoryI don't think that matters since sealing jutsu can seal reanimated ninja, I think they could seal logia but it won't be easy.
@@abdurrahmandureng Im pretty sure if I'm not wrong sealing jutsu only works on things with chakra
@AbdurRahman Dureng The issue would be landing the seal because of the speed difference and Observation Haki, the Admirals could just pull a Kata and preemptively morph around the sealing attempts. So your right, it's not that it wouldn't work, it's just never realistically landing.
Kizaru may truly be untouchable to the seals though.
@@150Hello True
that title is outrageous 💀