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It indeed was stated that without the sharingan constantly draining Kakashi's chakra, he was able to use more of his chakra reserves, and still remembers all of the jutsu he had copied when he had his sharingan.
@@SosukeTYBW minato has multiple sealing jutsu and rasengan variations. both are more than enough to either kill or neutralize sukuna. but tbh he doesn't even need that. he would just blitz sukuna and cut his head off in one clean swipe. sukuna would be dead just like that. even if sukuna expanded his domain, minato could just teleport outside of it's range. sukuna loses. cope harder.
@@SosukeTYBW we literally see that minato could insantly place a seal on obito and that he could apparently place the eight trigrams seal on top of the reaper death seal on Naruto insantly you only need setup if you aren't good at sealing ......sukuna would insantly lose the soul tug of war because it's based on power not that minato would ever use the reaper death seal on him anyway besides sukuna needs his hands to make a gesture for cleave in the manga we see that during his cleave against jogo the next panel shows him using a hand gesture
@@SosukeTYBW .... literally watch the video and scaling man sukuna needs of react to heal plus rct doesn't mean anything if you get decapitated instantly sukuans slashes could not decapitate gojo in one hit as shown by it only partially slicing through gojo neck before he heals it if you take it out in one hit sukuna is dead
I love Jujutsu Kaisen being a lot closer to real life in its scaling. But it's so funny whenever he's compared to the Big 3, especially Naruto, it just makes them look like little bro being bullied by big bro.
@@Dave_of_Mordor It's set in the real world, using references to modern calculations for its own scale of power right down to the decimals of seconds to fractions of the speed of sound.
Rest in pieces for sukuna. He is out of his league in terms of speed here and in terms of battle iq. At best he might catch a couple of the weaker ones lacking but the rest destroy him.
@@SosukeTYBW Gojo’s teleport is spatial teleport at best Minato’s transcends space and time(stated in databooks) And Minato is able to move in between teleportation putting him at immeasurable speed Naruto has mftl+(billions times faster than light) scales too They’re blitzing the fuck outta overhyped fodder
@@blackmanwithcomputer sukuna at best only has a vaguely ftl reaction speed feat via kashimo's beast form. There isn't alot of travel speed feats in jjk in general, once you get near the relativistic speeds.
@@SosukeTYBW it can kill them, but it'll never land. All the kage are minimum ftl in all aspects of speed, with their travel speed being something sukuna never dealt with. The 2nd and 4th's flying raijin just neg sukuna, and all the kage have good forms of sealing like hashirama's gates. Naruto and Kakashi also just have better hax and way better raw stats.
Sukuna getting a spacial slash with a limited range and being able to react to a hugely telegraphed FTL attack means we've entered a whole new era of glazing from JJK fans. Now instead of glazers claiming Go/jo can solo any verse with made up or exaggerated feats, it will be Sukuna. Glad that Sukuna is finally getting respect from the fan base but the glazing is already getting ridiculous. 😂
He would still have really good reaction speeds but yeah movement/travel speed feats are gonna be completely made up until he actually moves that fast outside of reacting to a tell lol
No it does not make him ftl if theres a huge telegraph for the attack. That's like claiming a regular human is a bullet timer because they reacted to a gun being pointed at them and they moved out of the way before the trigger was pulled. He has good reactions aided by a tell, he is not keeping up with characters that both move and attack at those speeds casually.
@@pspsmallz Okay so if dodging light 1” from your face doesn’t make you FTL when light covers 3e+8 METERS PER SECOND… then tell me WHAT does it make you? Bc even with a telegraph your synapse still have to be moving FTL to make your body mass doge that close.
Honestly I'd Hunter X Hunter would be better match ups for JJK characters. Naruto has honestly just reach DBZ levels of nonsense at this point, hard to call any of em ninja tbh
Not really, he’s there’s aliens but now Boruto is more condense on using Taijutsu instead of giant avatars and such if you read two blue vortex it’s mostly just throwing hands
Haven’t even watched the entire vid, but he ain’t beating the Senju brothers, Minato, Kakashi and Naruto. Even with (imo bs) the ftl scaling from Phantom Beast Amber Kashimo.
Kakashi has to be the most overrated Naruto character, he would get packed easily like at best he has kamui and its not even something he can use more than 3 times at best. People like to scale him using that one specific moment where Obito literally had to power him up and even there he would still get packed.
I definitely feel like Sukuna would be atleast able to grasp how to control and use chakra if the verses are equalized. His ability to analyze and break down techniques and then turn them into his own if they’re good is pretty busted. Also how far would he get if he managed to change his vessel into one of the main story ninjas?
People ragging on you for using the term "equalized" lmao. It's pretty clear what you mean, even if it's not the right word. "If Sukuna were born in the Naruto verse," "if he magically got a chakra network," etc etc.
This is cope af. The same reason everyone downplays the Narutoverse is the same reason verse equalization doesn't work. Sukuna "grasping" how to use chakra and what it is doesn't matter, because chakra isn't something natural to humans in the verse. It's an alien energy source that only decendents of kaguya and people who hagaromo gifted chakra to have. He actually just can't use chakra lmao.
Honestly a better crossverse video would be something like "what if the jujutsu high main trio, and/or heavy hitter trio participated in the chunin exams?" Itd be interesting to see how far those 6 could get.
@@BANGKITAS agreed. Each team could replace one of the teams of sound ninja (Dosu gang, and/or Kabuto gang) pretty seamlessly. Or MAYBE Guy's team for the heavy hitters.
@@SosukeTYBW I can send you the speed calcs, sukuna isn't really doing anything here, Gojo is like literally the only person that makes the jjk verse a threat to other verses
him and gojo are reinforcing their bodies with CE so you cant hold them to the same candle as normal people from what weve seen the only time sukuna was worried the whole fight ws for UV and Hollow Purple which he still amanged to survive You definitely need lethality on top of brute strength
People simply don't understand that an anime can have a great power system that operates on a lower range. JJK and Demon Slayer are both examples of that.
He slams everyone except Naruto and DMS Kakashi (if you give him that) .We don’t need extra powers this video doesn’t incorporate how Sukuna fights, his battle IQ, etc. Sukuna in character cuts them in half upon looking at them with his cut that cuts infinity. Quite literally the only thing stopping that is Kamui and Naruto plot armor
@@baonemogomotsi7138 I mean he did cut INFINITY. Explain how they beat that? He literally is cutting time space and it’s stated he could cut the planet and that’s AOE. This doesn’t consider if he concentrates that into AP. It took Naruto (and friends) how long to deal with pain almighty push/pull then kamui? Sukuna dealt with similar (arguably better abilities) in one fight. And now he’s starting off the death battle with said ability to cut. Minato and Naruto are their only hope.
@@SosukeTYBW Cleave cannot target anything without Cursed Energy, unless it's slash that cut the world, which needs movement, which Hashirama just dodged
Kakashi as hokage is stated to be stronger then in the war arc. He cancles multiple country level attacks and has baltantly better feats and this is actually after him being hokage
You really think hokage Kakashi is stronger than a version of him who was spamming kamui which is literally the most op jutsu in Naruto plus with dual Ms pulling out the strongest susano that speed blitzes kaguya
@@ObitoUchiha-er5cvwell it’s stated he’s stronger than he was during the war which can be interpreted in two ways, including DMS or not including DMS. Most (including myself) believe it’s referring to War Arc Kakashi without the DMS since that seems to be more logically consistent with what we’ve seen in the story
Naruto : Domain Expansion ! Solitary Swingset ! ( basically "talk no jutsu" ) Sukuna : WHAT'S HAPPENING ?! It's like his words cut deeper than any blades ?! Yuji / Megumi : "retakes control on his body"
Sukuna is a bad mf but putting him against casual continent busters is doing my boy dirty, he just fought off the fraud allegations barely with Big Raga’s assist coming in clutch.
@wolfkingomega1405 Bro, naruto reaches multi solar - universal at the end of shippuden. Bro, hashirama is easily multi continental while holding back. Bro, tailed beasts alone are already planetary - multi planetary.
@@VenWhoVian cry abt it sukuna is city at best Deku is large country-continental Read all of jjk And they dont get any higher Those cut the world statements are hyperbolic He has no planetary feats Stop overrating the fodder It seems you guys think bad fandom= weak and struggles with demon slayer verse
@@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv um about the demon slayer statement, yeah not even mahito would struggle with them(Mainly because of his curse technique idle transfiguration, and the fact that he's a lot faster than a whole bunch of demon slayer)
Nah cause like, I'm 100% sure neither Naruto or Hashirama would be able to defend themselves like Yuji, not cause they did something fucked up but cause they just so silly😭😭😭
Only characters from JJK that can solo Naruto verse are -JoGoat, the king of Vulcanos -Riko Amanai -The fire extinguisher -The grasshopper curse(He was very smart)
Hashirama summoning his Thousand-Armed Buddha Statue would just completely and utterly obliterate Sukuna’s Malevolent Shrine. Considering that it made Kurama look like a normal sized fox, and fully intact Kurama is over 100 meters (328ft) tall. That’s the minimum estimate. Just summoning that thing (not that he would need to) would destroy his domain lol.
Mind you, that eas Kurama before he got split into two by Minato, and when we look at how smaller he got, he got at least 3. 1000 hands literally dwarfed mountains
Hashirama - Is taking Sukuna through a walk in the park. Tobirama - Will have a rough time but will get the job done. Sarutobi - Never seen him while being young and in action. Giving this one to Sukuna but barely. Minato - Same as Hashirama, taking Sukuna through a walk in the park in the moon light. Tsunade - She will need to bring out everything, with her healing abilities and great strength it can go either way. Kakashi - My man of 1000 jutsu. If he has both Sharingan, he can do it. One sharingan, maybe. No Sharingan? He will put up a damn fight but I see him losing this one in alot of cases. *Naruto* - He's fucking Sukuna up....Simple. Believe it.
@@XilPrivChannel Only reason why I dont say slaughtered is because he has more chakra in reserves now that the sharingan isn't draining him. And he even knows some of the eight inner gates.
@@XilPrivChannel kakashi is still WAAAAAAAAAAY faster than Sukuna without Sharingan. I think in one of the novels it was stated that Kakashi was leaps beyond his War Arc self in terms of strength, so even without Sharingan kakashi would slap. Sarutobi is def debatable cus we never seen him do much and I dont see Tsunade winning.
@@yourcreepyuncle1135 I would like to say so, but because Sarutobi suffered from the part 1 power scaling syndrome he seems way weaker compared to the rest and despite what is said about him. But because he is so old and hokage I know for he is resourceful
Shikamaru isnt holding a candle to Sukuna. He already showed he doesnt even have to move to use cleave and dismantle against Jogo and the sliced and diced sisters. Shikamaru gets no diffed.
Shikamaru is one of the weaker ninja even in his own verse. Hes all strategy and doesnt have any durability or speed feats. One of the few named ninja that Sukuna can definitely beat who is low mid in a head on 1v1. Shikamaru with prep could probably win though since he is smart enough to beat people considerably stronger than him but a straight forward fight should be easy for Sukuna.
@@jon_ovo3653 Yeah but Ten Shadows are literally fodder to Shikamaru it´s basically giving him more shadow material to work with at best, or straight up hijacking the tecnique and summons and make them do his bidding instead. And this can also apply to mahoraga himself. Sukuna going Heian is definitely more than enough to handle Shikamaru tho even 15 finger yujikuna can probably do the same but meguna using 10S is getting whacked.
Sukuna can resist his soul being pulled out or manipulated. Ofc these are statements in the story and he hasn’t been shown doing so, but by statements only sealing would work
@@saucekay6793 JJK seems to only give soul protection to HR users, Mahito's entire thing is manipulating souls, but if you can damage the soul your are his natural enemy, Sukuna has Yuji as his perfect prison.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 he couldn’t harm sukuna or yuji because sukuna was protecting his own, the only reason it’s so effective in modern times is because sorcerers aren’t used to protecting their souls, and it seems the only sorcerers aware of the soul were sukuna, gojo, and yuki. Yuji would remain unnaffected even without sukuna, he can see the outline of mahito’s soul. Mahito says so. So yuji can protect his with CE, even Nanami protects his but he can’t do it a lot
@@saucekay6793 you're talking about soul resistance, I'm talking about soul protection. Anybody aware of the soul has soul resistance, but Toji and Maki have their souls protected. If Kenjaku absorbed Sukuna, just like Mahito, he would be a mindless puppet like Mahito, at best he would be able to talk.
Tsunade might punch Sukuna’s head off when she sees him throw up his hand signs for domain expansion. She punched through madara’s susanoo armor so Sukuna’s defense is butter to her.
I actually thought you were gonna pin Gojo against the Hokage. The subject Satoru Gojo is closed. May he rest in peace. Sukuna is still alive and kicking, I don't think we've seen the entire scope of his abilities yet
Infinitety gives an easy win against most hokage. The only one with a work around possibility is Kakashi if we use his strongest self, and I'm not misunderstanding how Infinitety works
@generalgarchomp333 Truth seeking orbs work by being all chakara natures they'd do nothing to infinitety Bit of a joke. I genuinely forgot that the Reaper Death Seal existed, so add Minato since I'm not going hypothetical prime 3rd, and I'm blanking on if others would have it
Even though I agree that the Naruto verse scales higher, I think you’re underestimating Sukuna and the JJK verse. Tsunade wouldn’t be able to survive Malevolent Shrine, he wouldn’t even need to use his flame. The only reason Mahoraga was able to walk through Malevolent Shrine was because he was partially adapted against his attacks and Mahoraga’s regeneration is superior to Tsunade. Tsunade’s durability isn’t particularly impressive, yes she is physically very strong, and has great regeneration, but I don’t think Sukuna would need Malevolent Shrine against her. She can’t blitz him, he can regenerate just as well as she can, and his attacks are more lethal. Hokage Kakashi is a different story because he is faster and has a lot more flexibility. He is likely to sneak attack him like he did to Kakuzu. Sukuna has insanely good instincts and senses, but he can still be caught off guard, especially if he doesn’t know of Kakashi’s clone ability. I’d give this fight to Kakashi. Hiruzen, at least from the Chunin Exam arc, is insanely versatile… but he doesn’t have the insane mobility that Kakashi or any of the stronger Hokages have. He would not be able to blitz Sukuna, I’d say 15 fingers Sukuna beats him. Prime Hiruzen should be able to face 20 fingers Sukuna though. Tobirama is a significantly more difficult opponent for Sukuna than all the previous ones, and is the first character who could escape Malevolent Shrine thanks to his teleportation. With that said, Sukuna is able to handle teleporting opponents like when facing Gojo’s rapid teleportation, or Todo’s Boogie Woogie. With that said, I’m betting on Tobirama on this one. Minato is even more difficult for Sukuna, and wins. He didn’t have Kurama during his life, so in this fight he shouldn’t have him either. Just with his teleportation, sealing, and rasengan, he should beat Sukuna. With that said, a single large rasengan won’t be enough. Sukuna survived many strikes which are way more lethal than a large rasengan (multiple hollow purples especially). His durability is insanely underrated. Still, Minato wins by sealing him. Hashirama is more powerful than all the previous Hokage, so he would have an advantage, but I’d say he is not guaranteed a win here simply because he has no counter to Malevolent Shrine. Naruto talks no jutsu win in 5 minutes. Even if that fails, he still wins the battle. Shikamaru loses though. I’m sorry bro, Sukuna can use dismantle even without moving, and Shikamaru has no way of knowing or sensing it.
Bro what? Any hokage scales higher than Sukuna, they have fought stronger and faster opponents than Sukuna. I bet you think sukuna is relative to madara. Sukuna barely scales above part 1 naruto characters.
Sukuna is getting dogwalked by practically any hokage 1v1. Just the speed difference between the verses is a deciding factor in itself. The fastest characters in jjk are around mach 3, and Naruto high-top tiers are many times faster. Even if we equalize speed, the hokages are generally just physically stronger and more durable. I don't know if Sukuna can even trap any of them in his domain long enough to do anything significant. Most of the hokage can either tank it and heal: Hashirama, Tsunade, teleport away before anything happens: Tobirama, Minato, Naruto (may as well be teleporting), or do some hax BS and just substitute jutsu their way out. Sorry Sukuna, but you actually trapped a log in your domain. RIP.
First off, these dudes are great. This is the first video I’ve seen of either person but I’m liking them a lot and I’m only 14:49 into the video. Definitely gonna keep up with them for a while, but have they watched either show? They are really good at talking to keep you from getting bored and the results they come up with are alright. They way they get to the results sound insane if you listen to the whole video and I’m pretty sure they break their own rules from the jump.
These guys literallygot no clue what theyre talking about theyre talking like pure amateurs from the naruto and jjk side they just arent getting so many facts right
Hashirama: has constant passive RCT active, and the true thousand hands in his pocket, practically fondled Madara throughout their lifetime. Tobirama: Has one of the highest battle iq in the verse, has the flying raijin in his pocket and one of the highest proficiency in water jutsu in the verse. Hiruzen: Has mastery of the 5 elemental jutsu, has the adamantine staff, and the reaper death seal. Minato: The fastest shinobi, just behind Naruto. One of the fastest showing of reaction time, and the rasengan in his pocket. He also has the afformentioned reaper death seal, and if you really want to fuck Sukuna up, Minato also has the kurama chakra mode. Tsunade: Probably has the highest raw attach power of all the Hokages, and has a pseudo infinite RCT. Kakashi: If we go by DMS Kakashi, Sukuna is not doing anything to him, even with Mahoraga, DMS Kakashi can snipe it's head off. One sharingan Kakashi still has a 1000 jutsu in his pocket, plus one of the highest battle iq in the verse. Naruto: Naruto can fart in Sukuna's general direction and fondle him.
@@SosukeTYBW What part of infinite constant RCT did you not get. Plus, I don't think Sukuna can get one of his slashes in, majority of the Hokage can speed blitz him before he could even think of slashing
@@SosukeTYBW firstly if all em waves are only light speed ina vacuum secondly sukuna could see the spark of ce thirdly a zero tail early Naruto could react to hakus light speed mirror trick personally I don't like using that scaling since it's just as inconsistent as the sukuna light speed scaling but hey if you give him that outlier you gotta give the Naruto verse the outlier feats as well
@@tachimesan6133 so considering sukuna can damaged mahito would mean sukunas attack damage soul and neither hashirama nor tsunade show ability to heal soul damage so so none of them are really going to tank sukunas attack well sadly first 3 hokage blitz sukuna too hard considering there are statement that would put adult raikage on level of minato in speed would mean doesnt have much channce , if you use edo tense minato , he never show ability to break free from control of orochimaru so he would just stand there unable to do anything i mean she would just try to tanked the attack and die , there isnt much tsunade can do considering DMS kakashi is fusion of kakashi+obitos spirit , you cannt even consider it his form , its their form so cannt really be used naruto blitz
@@randomdude6446 so edo haku (weaker than alive) blitz war arc kakashi , this war arc kakashi was shown to be relative to kcm naruto in their jinjuriki vs jinjuriki fight , which either mean you think kid naruto is faster than kcm , or you know that haku was holding back and was exhousted when they react to him and so they doesnt scale and just want to lie to eveyone and hope they wouldnt find out
@@lukaskrivda9374I literally mentioned how inconsistent but so is the higher end of jjk scaling I literally said if you give jjk that weird outlier that naruto gets it's weird outlier as well ...haku literally had no reason to hold back or be that exhausted either as for soul damage literally every Naruto character can see and interact with souls as proven when Edo pain tried that soul stealing ability
The only reason Gojo did as well as he did against the Akatsuki is his Limitless and the stun effect of his Domain. Sukuna is not able to do that, so he has no way to prevent attacks hitting him, so the only way he can survive is Reverse Cursed Technique, but that won't last long
Using the mid range of scaling for both, that Sukuna scales to Gojo’s earthquake he caused which is calced to island+ to small country level (obviously), and that the Hokage are bare minimum mountain++ to island level for scaling to Bijuu. And assuming speed is equalized otherwise the Hokage blitz. 1) He beats Tsunade, she can tank shrine but then a fire arrow obliterates her. 2) Old man Hiruzen doesn’t have the stamina. 3) Minato stomps 4) Tobirama stomps 5) Hashirama stomps 6) Kakashi stomps 7) Naruto stomps EDIT: since y’all included Shikamaru, in the novel where Shikamaru catches all the Kage in shadow paralysis, he later tries to use it on a tree and can’t break it and he realizes that the 5 Kage just let him act big but they would’ve slapped him. So he can’t do shit to Sukuna.
Kakashi doesnt slap. If he had the sharingan he takes sukuna out ez pz, but this is hokage Kakashi. Hokage Kakashi is not only fearless, but his chakra nature gets nerfed by sukunas weapon, that literally negs lighting. You would have to hope the EM wave feat is disproven so Kakashi speed blitzes, because Kakashi cant survive any of sukunas attacks. In Naruto, a Kunai can take out a high level ninja, and Kakashi isn't one of the few durable characters (like 3 on this list).
@@zedantyorant if cutting someone in half is enough to kill them he won’t heal. Like she blew huge portions outta madara of all people. Like the entire half of his body was gone from one punch
This is an interesting match up. I just think there's poor analysis of how the fight would go out. I can't tell if you were serious or just simply joking around.
Honestly Minato is as fast as Toji and Sukuna is probably faster than that. This is a lot of hyperbolic bs, when you said someone from Naruto is light speed you completely lost any credibility you had.
@@SosukeTYBW 1. Kakashi is light speed as adult, he can trade blows with semi Supressed WM Obito and react to Jinchuriki who at this point should>>>>>Raikage. Moreso, Kakashi can react and fight on same tiers as KCM Minato, as we see how they reached the same place at the same time when Zetsu remerged 2. Every Hokage is Light Speed and mid+ tiers as well
@@SosukeTYBW 1. She matched her blows with light speed at 2. Lower tier of FTL feats, lmao. So nah, doesn't mean shit. Hashirama blitzes 3. Oh, so giving him 10S but with World Slash? Even tho Mahoraga died before he obtained it? What is it? Some kind of composite Mahoraga? Anyways, Edo Hashirama would stomp with that. 4. It targets invidual atoms, doesn't mean it always destroys them. Naruto's characters atoms>>>>>to that
Do You think if sukuna was put in a situation where he wasn't the strongest that he would be willing to train to become the strongest again and how do you think he would feel about that?
He would definitely train to get stronger. He literally used his fight with Gojo to get stronger. Thats how he learned how to cut space in the first place. His adaptability, skill and technique are ridiculous.
It’s his narrative that’s why he’s slamming all the hokage except Minato and Naruto. Mahoraga is symbolic to his philosophy as a sorcerer. Noticed they never talked about how he cut infinity right? That’s for a reason 😂
@@CrazyXay exactly what I said they can’t damn heal on tsunda can and idk if she can heal limbs lol and repeating getting slashed would kill any of them a fucking kunai ends the dudes lives
@@jon_ovo3653 the nine tails heals Naruto, tsunde healed form getting cut in half, madara said said hashirama could heal without hand signs and was better then tsunade.
I think the funniest interaction with Kakashi and Sukuna would be Kakashi using Kamui on malevolent shrine. And on him being powered up later on ... I don't think any amount of power will save him from Six Paths or Baryon Mode naruto. Truth Seeking Orbs completely negate rct and bypass defenses. Now Maharaga could theoretically adapt, but that doesn't really help much when it literally deletes his head from existence.
Stop talking out your ass lol sukuna would read them and wash them especially weak kakashi should’ve been dead long ago but Naruto verse just can’t finish the job sukuna always finish the job Lkashi gettting washed
hashirama has sage art/mode that makes him sense sukunas attack coming. tobirama, minato, who are sensory type users where naruto, who is best in using sage mode giving example when he was able to dodge light attack and sense madara's limbo.
@@dominicwoodford5711 No, it's stated and implied quite a lot that domain expansions use far more CE than the amount used for CE reinforcement, CT's and attacks imbued with cursed energy. Nearly 0 sorcereres can activate domain expansion multiple times in a day, apart from characters with absolutely massive amounts of CE (sukuna) or characters who have practically infinite amounts (gojo, hakari). So this means if characters did use the same amount of CE for attacks and CE reinforcement they'd only be able to fight for very short amounts of time. Ds characters would easily dodge their maximum of 3 attacks (Most ds humans better stamina feats than jjk humans) and one tap them easily. It's also stated that CT burns out immediately after domain expansion (with yuta, even after a little while, his CT hadnt come back) . In jjk, characters use their cursed techniques multiple times in a fight, one example being mahito and their cursed energy doesn't seem to burn out even after tens of uses. After one domain expansion however, Uro and yuta couldn't use their cursed techniques after one domain expansion. Keep in mind yuta not even that long ago had his cursed energy replenished by rika. Also, there's jogo himself, who right after using domain expansion couldnt use RCT to heal his body (unless beheading slows it down or stops it for curses, as gojo says that beheading can stop RCT for sorcerers at least, idk if it applys to curses since they are naturally better at RCT) after gojo beheaded him. So basically, characters don't scale to their domain in terms of AP and durability.
SUKUNA IS NOT MOUNTAIN LEVEL. He's max large city 💀 Domain are just projection of their inner self not an actuap creation scaling. Dagon has fucking sun in his Domain, does that mean he scales to star level? HELL NO. Creation feats should scale how big their domain is from the outside not inside
Sometimes, I listen and check in on these videos, and even after Naruto, being my first anime, I watched through completely... I have to wonder how much time and effort people put into scaling for, no reason whatsoever, I don't mean Operator and Ronin. I just mean overall, I watched Naruto through and through, and yet some of these statements are just like, a big giant question mark to me.
No exaggeration, post chunin exam kid Naruto low diffs Sukuna. Low balling, weightless Lee was moving at Mach 20+, and we know that Sasuke was said to be relative to weightless Lee. Naruto in base was similar to Sasuke in bass in terms of speed. Even if you wanna say Sasuke was faster, it wasn’t by much. So kid Naruto IN BASE is Mach 20+. Sukuna has no feats of being even above Mach 8. This is an insane speed blitz.
@@SosukeTYBW 1. Prove Kashimo is faster than lightning 2. He doesn't move at light speed, he shoots light speed attacks. Congrats, bro might be as fast as Random Anbu number 56
You guys lowball sukuna so much, im not saying he wins the fights but these things need to to clear 1. His dismantle and cleave are light speed(proved when kashimo couldnt dodge this and his attacks and body had properties of EM waves which is light speed) 2.his domain literally cuts and disintegrates everything in range tsunade cannot survive limbs being chopped off 3.sukuna only couldnt tank lightning because he was very exhausted from the gojo fight and after he awakened he no diffed kashimo Sukuna doesn't need time to adjust cleave, it auto adjusts itself to the opponents level and his cleave recently cut space time itself so all he needs to do is fire off one slash and most of them die
1.lol even if u wank that feat it dosen't really matter since haku in part 1 was stated to be light speed and all the kage are massively massively faster than him 2 we literally saw gojo tanked and heal while being cut up by the domain unless your implying gojo has better durability and healing than someone like hashi or naruto which he dosen't minato and tobirama teleports to another country with ftg so no dice there and if they were edos malevolent shrine does actually nth 3 bud sukuna couldn't even properly tank a city block level hollow purple that wasn't even focus at him without losing half his body what makes you think he can tank attacks that bully bijuus
@Qbone_ just cause he told him to dodge dosent mean it will magically make him faster, he still needed to perceive the attack coming and move his body out of the way, even if he lost a limb Naruto characters are blatantly faster than Kashimo so they would just dodge it completely.
That is what happens when you turn powerscaling into a sudoprofession, you start to take hyperbolic statements as facts: Haku is lightspeed and so is kid Sasuke since he hit him, even tough Itachi is incapable of reacting to REAL lightning of Kirin! Kishimoto like to use hyperbole to make his character look cooler but when you start to count Ls we see that most characters are still vulnerable to live steel of all things. Also, saying Kakashi is lightning speed because of Haikiri while ignoring the main selling point of the sharingan is the foresight it grants in disingenuous. Kakashi doesn't need to be as fast as lightning to anticipate with the sharingan. Finally, saying Minato and Tobirama could easily defeat Sukuna if you shove a cable up their ass and control then is one thing, but in character and ignorant about Sukuna's capability they are both toast. There is no way Minato's rasengan has greater output than Gojo's Red, and sukuna survived getting his back blow by one. The moment Sukuna pull his Domain they are both as good as dead as they will only get wise about its sure-hit effect after they are subject to it. it is a perfect counter to the flying thunder god.
In all truth I don't understand what this video was abt🤔 like they just neg anything Sukuna had for him. It's like they don't see him as a character per say but just look at the verse itself like bcse Sukuna is from jjk he can NEVER defeat any one from the Naruto verse let alone the kages like WTF😂😂😂. Honestly and in all respect this video felt so childish😅
I can understand the scaling and all, but what actual concrete value would having shadow clones add into the fight? We've seen that shadow clones are usually taken out in one hit, and cleave could just auto target onto the clones which shouldn't be an issue for Sukuna.
it depends on the strength of the enemy or how strong they decide to make the clones. Naruto sent multiple across multiple battlefields in the 4th great ninja war, who all fought full length battles.
Naruto practically ended the war by sending one shadow clone to each battlefield and helped if not downright beat up some of the strongest reanimations by himself. The one that defeated the Third Raikage was a Naruto clone. And that Naruto clone later on went to smack the Second Tsuchikage with a Rasengan and then helped in fighting Madara before being taken out. Even in early Naruto, his clones could take a few hits before disappearing
@@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686 Not strong hits though, i'm 99% sure it was stated in at least one of the fights you referenced that he had to be especially careful because if he took one bad hit he (the clone) would disappear. That said, overall I do agree with your points and think Naruto's shadow clones don't get enough credit for their efforts in the war
Short answer no sukuna can’t beat any of the kage. The best speed scaling comes from Kashimo and even then it’s iffy. most people agree. He’s not even a dodging the attack, but I am dodging so he wouldn’t even scales to the speed of the attack. The FTl arguments aren’t too good and all the kage can be scaled to at least relativistic if not higher. Also, all the Kage have the AP to put Sukuna down in one attack Sukuna cannot win.
1.) Kashimo scaling isn't iffy, it's fairly consistent. 2.) No not all Kage are relativistic, Hiruzen is like Hypersonic or some shit, Minato and higher are all relativistic+ 3.) Sukuna cannot be put down in one hit unless that hit comes from Naruto and it's straight to his head. Sukuna has RCT plus crazy dura feats
Tsunade has arguably the strongest ap aside from naruto, hashirama, and boruto kakashi. I honestly think she will one shot him especially if she can see cleave and dismantle lol. They are also not using the higher scalings for the kage
@@SosukeTYBW she has healed from worse. Like a lot worse. And she is decently faster. Plus if she guts cut in half Katsuya will easily defend and help her. Only reason it took so long to heal her against Madara is cause she was out of chakra and healing the 5 Kage from close to death. She survived what Gojo didn’t and still was healing people. It really want kill her. And slash won’t work on katsuyu since she just breaks apart and spits acid on Sukuna. The stat difference is to high. She will blow a hole in him. And she is faster… and plus it looked like Kashimo saw it, like he literally did cause he called it out before it hit him
@@SosukeTYBW no she needed help cause she was drained from fighting Madara and healing the Kage before healing herself. Sukuna is no where near madara and it’s a good chance sukuna wong get her to the point where madara could. Also you acting like a dura neg slice is THAT crazy. If that was the case Kakashi with Kamui would be the strongest character. Plus Kashimo saw the slices coming
Bros forgetting what hashira a did to madara and nine tails.. the violation was wild 😂😂😂 kurama got grabbed like a stuffed toy and madara got back shotted by Hashirama😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like people turn their brains off with JJK vs videos. I get it’s popular right now but I see people out here saying PTS Naruto beats Sakuna and Gojo. . . Like homies please lmao
That's just false with verse equalization Naruto can sense and fight Madara's limbo clones that are imperceptible as they occupy a seperate plane of reality Every senjutsu user Naruto, Hashirama, Tsunade, Minato will all be able to perceive cleave and dismantle Sharingan Kakashi will be able to see it like gojo can Hiruzen and tobirama can probably also perceive it as they probably have senjutsu but i'm not sure, yet it doesn't matter because they blitz him regardless
Gojo definitely could, and about Naruto it's not about seeing Cleave or dismantle. It's about sensing the attacks. He couldn't see the limbo clones, but his ability to perceive danger is so acute he was able to fight transdimensional beings that could not be perceived. Cleave and dismantle ain't touching him @@SosukeTYBW
I'm honestly shocked at how these narutards think Naruto characters would even hold a finger to Sukuna. Sukuna's cleave is literally instant. Cleave happens even before Naruto could finish saying ka in kage bunshin no jutsu.
@@SosukeTYBW ignoring the fact that even a random anbu could blitz tf outta Sukuna yh the Kage probably could just see through his technique and it wouldn't even hurt them unless he uses the slash he used against Gojo. So if you argue that world slash is a one shot it makes no difference because all the Kage can one shot him and theyre leaps and bounds faster
@@SosukeTYBW sukuna is most certainly not ftl. And... So what? Random jonin are stated to be Lightspeed. All the hokage are easily mftl and would blitz sukuna no difficulty
Typing this as I go, the glazing in this video is nuts, I'm not saying Sukuna wins every fight, but god damn my boy is getting shot. 1.) I feel that Tsunade gets packed up pretty quick by Malevolent Shrine, just because even Gojo couldn't keep up well with healing from that kind of onslaught, which I compare high level RCT to like 3/4 the healing power as 100 healings imo(RCT heals quicker, but 100 healings is shown to be able to heal much graver wounds). You bring up Mahoraga healing through DE, but he didn't heal, he just adapted and negated the sure-hit altogether. 2.) Another Tsunade one, what is her speed? I mean Sukuna scales to like, 2-3x FTL with the Kashimo fight? Which forgive me being an idiot on Naruto scalings, but like, only people like Minato and Naruto/Sasuke can even compare to that, Minato with hax ofc, and Naruto and Sasuke through shear speed and minor hax(like Amenotejikara). I just see Sukuna blitzing people like Kakashi and Tsunade. Yes I know Kakashi has the lightning bolt feat as a kid, but Sukuna was able to dodge EM waves(which are light speed, while lightning bolts are not) with moderate difficulty, which keep in mind, was right after his fight with Gojo, so he was beaten and fatigued, and still dodging light speed attacks. 3.) How are we equating Jutsus to Cursed Techniques? If we're equating them to two sides of the same coin, it stands to reason that Jutsus would be disabled within a Domain Expansion, as Cursed Techniques are nullified within another persons domain. Also Kamui is a once or twice time move for Kakashi that he cannot aim well, it seriously strains him and lowers his chakra reserves. Also the whole Ten Tails snipe is irrelevant to this convo unless we're using DMS Kakashi, as we don't know how having the second MS amps his Kamui hax, we know he could use Kamui a ton more once he got the other eye, and he was using Kamui shuriken for that scene anyways. 4.) I'm gonna be straight, there is so much glazing going on here in this video, it's making my head spin. Hiruzen gets packed and sent home, cause fuck the jutsus, he doesn't even have the speed to match Sukuna. Sukuna has RCT and durability to tank, and fuck any kind of defense Hiruzen has because World-Rending Slash sends his ass back to the Reapers stomach. Speaking of the Reaper Death Seal, Sukuna has soul knowlege, so it's as simple as cutting his soul where Hiruzen grabbed him, and then RCTing his arms back, it's been done, Hiruzen doesn't have, in the words of Big Raga: "Any pack he ain't smoke yet". 5.) Finally, a character I can see posing a decent challenge out of sheer stats and versatility alone. Tobirama Senju, has a shit ton to his name, Flying Raijin, Shadow Clones, the works. However there are a few reasons I can see Sukuna pulling through a dub here. Firstly speed, while Tobirama has FR, it's directly stated that he cannot use it as well as Minato can, but I see him probably keeping up with the Fraudulent one. As for dura, Tobirama is going up against World-Rending Slash so his dura is irrelevant. Sukuna tanks most because of RCT(again) and other than him taking off his head(which I don't see being that easy, I mean Mahoraga tried it and Sukuna legit made a mouth where the blade made contact and used the mouth to shatter the blade), I just don't see Tobirama inflicting more damage in one hit than an attack that **destroys space at an atomic level** like Hollow Purple. 6.) Minato blitzes, lets get that out of the way. You will get no argument from me that Minato aboslutely negs Sukuna in terms of speed, but then again, one good Malevolent shrine packs him up, especially if like I said earlier Domain Expansion disables Flying Raijin, then he's double fucked. Rasengan works very well, and could kill him, provided his head is destroyed. Once again I don't see Reaper Death Seal working here, so I think Minato poses a decent challenge, but not enough to send home the King of Curses. Unless we're talking war arc Minato, which 9/10 times packs Sukuna up and sends him crying home to Mommy, Sukuna can do damage because he directly strikes the soul(as shown when he attacks Mahito) so no Edo-tensei healing here, but Bijuu-Chakra cloak Minato just sends him home packing with power and speed. Thats pretty much it from me, Hashirama and Naruto pack up Sukuna fairly neatly, with the only gripe I have is that Hashirama doesn't have the speed feats to stack up to Sukuna, and Senjutsu doesn't sense Dismantle and Cleave. I'm generally not a JJGlazer, but I couldn't watch my boy get done this dirty.
I didn't read this wall fo text in its entirety, but you're missing many things about Kakashi, for example. He could use Kamuo more times than just 2 in the War(even before getting chakra from Naruto) and he was super precise with it. He literally Kamui'd a Rasengan and even in the Pain Arc he managed to Kamui a nail before it hit him. The Ten Tails Kamui happens before getting his second MS, it only ends cause Obito negates it with his own Kamui but otherwise he would have taken the head of the Gedo Statue off.
Sukuna. Where do I begin. I'm sorry for you my pokie bear. You've just beaten yujo. waffles the speedy one, biceted the honored one, sparked the one blessed with the sparks, yet is completely outclassed by a bunch of sandal wearing ninjas. My nightmare, my pookie cookie, you are cooked.
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Please do Sukuna vs all the bijus.. because some dumbasses try to do it and it's laughable and delusional.
What if Sukuna Feed his figure to Uzumaki or Uchiha.
You're putting him up against the strongest kagay that just proves his strength
This video was Fax🔥 nicely done
@@Nishom0926😅
I love how the video basically starts with “sukuna gets washed by the weakest hokage. Okay, only 6 more ass whoopings to go!”
Sakuna would be getting the flashback as soon as Naruto, Tobirama or Hashirama moved their hands
Minato too
Don’t forget Minato, Hiruzen and Kakashi. 💀💀Hell seeing Tsunade walk through Sukunas DE would be crazy asf😭😭.
@@electron9820 bruh stfu tsunade aint doing shit
move their hands? he would be lucky if he even sees their faces on panel before he's in a flashback wondering what happened 😂
@@tnsxpmi honestly feel like Naruto fans are delusional
So basically.. "Do you want these clones to use kcm too or not?" Lol
😂😂😂😂
It indeed was stated that without the sharingan constantly draining Kakashi's chakra, he was able to use more of his chakra reserves, and still remembers all of the jutsu he had copied when he had his sharingan.
Yeh but he can't land high-speed attacks without sharingan. This is why he doesn't use raikiri now
also it was implied he has six paths chakra as well now
@@TheMilkMan907no tf he dosnt and it was never implied 💀 He got Dms from Obito that’s it that’s all
@@BobHarliehe can just not chidori which requires the sharingan to be used
@@PapaNivk24yup that’s why he made purple lightning
Guys please pray for my boy Sukuna. He's just fought the fraud allegations and is quite fatigued already.
He wasn't fatigued. Author gave him full restore offscreen as well as the power to do a REALLY, REALLY big slash. 😪
He still missing a finger too
@just4universe219nooo
@@leonel9110lol no
@just4universe219yea flaming ash smoke jutsu
Fans definitely gotta understand just because Gojo lost doesn't remove the a$$whooping he put on Sukuna. Minato would literally send Sukuna crying😭
minato also wouldn't conveniently forget that he can teleport for 98% of the fight and not use it when he needs to most unlike gojo.
@@SosukeTYBWliterally watch the vid he can seal him or use a large rasengan and again the gap in power and speed is immense
@@SosukeTYBW minato has multiple sealing jutsu and rasengan variations. both are more than enough to either kill or neutralize sukuna. but tbh he doesn't even need that. he would just blitz sukuna and cut his head off in one clean swipe. sukuna would be dead just like that. even if sukuna expanded his domain, minato could just teleport outside of it's range. sukuna loses. cope harder.
@@SosukeTYBW we literally see that minato could insantly place a seal on obito and that he could apparently place the eight trigrams seal on top of the reaper death seal on Naruto insantly you only need setup if you aren't good at sealing ......sukuna would insantly lose the soul tug of war because it's based on power not that minato would ever use the reaper death seal on him anyway besides sukuna needs his hands to make a gesture for cleave in the manga we see that during his cleave against jogo the next panel shows him using a hand gesture
@@SosukeTYBW .... literally watch the video and scaling man sukuna needs of react to heal plus rct doesn't mean anything if you get decapitated instantly sukuans slashes could not decapitate gojo in one hit as shown by it only partially slicing through gojo neck before he heals it if you take it out in one hit sukuna is dead
I love Jujutsu Kaisen being a lot closer to real life in its scaling. But it's so funny whenever he's compared to the Big 3, especially Naruto, it just makes them look like little bro being bullied by big bro.
what are you talking about? how is it closer to real life in its scaling?
@@Dave_of_Mordor It's set in the real world, using references to modern calculations for its own scale of power right down to the decimals of seconds to fractions of the speed of sound.
@@demod2080 how do you know all this?
@@demod2080 show me your math work or you're full of crap
@@Dave_of_Mordor I watch the show and read the Manga, obviously lol
Rest in pieces for sukuna. He is out of his league in terms of speed here and in terms of battle iq. At best he might catch a couple of the weaker ones lacking but the rest destroy him.
Sukuna has FTL speed.
@@SosukeTYBWHe’s getting blitzed and oneshot long before he has the chance to use that
@@SosukeTYBW Gojo’s teleport is spatial teleport at best
Minato’s transcends space and time(stated in databooks)
And Minato is able to move in between teleportation putting him at immeasurable speed
Naruto has mftl+(billions times faster than light) scales too
They’re blitzing the fuck outta overhyped fodder
@@blackmanwithcomputer sukuna at best only has a vaguely ftl reaction speed feat via kashimo's beast form. There isn't alot of travel speed feats in jjk in general, once you get near the relativistic speeds.
@@SosukeTYBW it can kill them, but it'll never land. All the kage are minimum ftl in all aspects of speed, with their travel speed being something sukuna never dealt with. The 2nd and 4th's flying raijin just neg sukuna, and all the kage have good forms of sealing like hashirama's gates. Naruto and Kakashi also just have better hax and way better raw stats.
Sukuna getting a spacial slash with a limited range and being able to react to a hugely telegraphed FTL attack means we've entered a whole new era of glazing from JJK fans. Now instead of glazers claiming Go/jo can solo any verse with made up or exaggerated feats, it will be Sukuna. Glad that Sukuna is finally getting respect from the fan base but the glazing is already getting ridiculous. 😂
I mean, technically everything is telegraphed with spark which means the verse is featless for speed because lol spark
He would still have really good reaction speeds but yeah movement/travel speed feats are gonna be completely made up until he actually moves that fast outside of reacting to a tell lol
Even if it’s telegraphed his synapses fired FTL+ if he’s able to move his body FTL point blank, which still makes him…FTL….
No it does not make him ftl if theres a huge telegraph for the attack. That's like claiming a regular human is a bullet timer because they reacted to a gun being pointed at them and they moved out of the way before the trigger was pulled. He has good reactions aided by a tell, he is not keeping up with characters that both move and attack at those speeds casually.
@@pspsmallz Okay so if dodging light 1” from your face doesn’t make you FTL when light covers 3e+8 METERS PER SECOND… then tell me WHAT does it make you?
Bc even with a telegraph your synapse still have to be moving FTL to make your body mass doge that close.
I love the idea that Shikamaru waits for him to summon Mahoraga just so he can hold Sukuna in place while Mahoraga beats him.
Honestly I'd Hunter X Hunter would be better match ups for JJK characters. Naruto has honestly just reach DBZ levels of nonsense at this point, hard to call any of em ninja tbh
Meruem solos the verse
@@testandrecognise8176 Old man Netero's having a field day with sukuna.
@@fidelisitor8953netero would dust him so bad
naruto verse reach dragon ball power keep dreaming
Not really, he’s there’s aliens but now Boruto is more condense on using Taijutsu instead of giant avatars and such if you read two blue vortex it’s mostly just throwing hands
Haven’t even watched the entire vid, but he ain’t beating the Senju brothers, Minato, Kakashi and Naruto. Even with (imo bs) the ftl scaling from Phantom Beast Amber Kashimo.
The Light speed stuff is pretty accurate ngl
Spatial dismantlement and or Domain if it’s too icky
@@Nolimitsbestfriendthe tsos can destroy a spacetime which naruto has easily kicked away, because of spsm
Kakashi has to be the most overrated Naruto character, he would get packed easily like at best he has kamui and its not even something he can use more than 3 times at best. People like to scale him using that one specific moment where Obito literally had to power him up and even there he would still get packed.
Pre hate is crazy 😂😂😂😂
I definitely feel like Sukuna would be atleast able to grasp how to control and use chakra if the verses are equalized. His ability to analyze and break down techniques and then turn them into his own if they’re good is pretty busted.
Also how far would he get if he managed to change his vessel into one of the main story ninjas?
That's not how equalization works. We aren't letting them pull new abilities out of their ass, only letting shit like soul reapers be seen.
The stat difference is the big problem. Not him learning how chakra works.
People ragging on you for using the term "equalized" lmao. It's pretty clear what you mean, even if it's not the right word.
"If Sukuna were born in the Naruto verse," "if he magically got a chakra network," etc etc.
This is cope af. The same reason everyone downplays the Narutoverse is the same reason verse equalization doesn't work. Sukuna "grasping" how to use chakra and what it is doesn't matter, because chakra isn't something natural to humans in the verse. It's an alien energy source that only decendents of kaguya and people who hagaromo gifted chakra to have. He actually just can't use chakra lmao.
cope. I love JJK. But no.
Honestly a better crossverse video would be something like "what if the jujutsu high main trio, and/or heavy hitter trio participated in the chunin exams?"
Itd be interesting to see how far those 6 could get.
Wait, that would be cool asf
@@BANGKITAS agreed. Each team could replace one of the teams of sound ninja (Dosu gang, and/or Kabuto gang) pretty seamlessly. Or MAYBE Guy's team for the heavy hitters.
I agree and it’s not as much of a blatant beat down
Megumi as soon as he gets hits by sasuke "With this treasure I summon"
@@yashaoftheflames8475 and then Gojo stops him. Much like how all the Jonin stopped Neji from killing Hinata. Or Guy stopped Gaara from killing Lee.
If Tsunade hit Sukuna flush his head is getting obliterated, I don't disagree with y'all conclusion though.
That’s right. Completely destroy him
@@SosukeTYBWHer punch would put him to sleep though
@@SosukeTYBW Tsunade is faster than sukuna sir
@@SosukeTYBW I can send you the speed calcs, sukuna isn't really doing anything here, Gojo is like literally the only person that makes the jjk verse a threat to other verses
him and gojo are reinforcing their bodies with CE so you cant hold them to the same candle as normal people from what weve seen the only time sukuna was worried the whole fight ws for UV and Hollow Purple which he still amanged to survive You definitely need lethality on top of brute strength
How delusional can you be after this guy explained that jjk verse cant win for 20 min and you still want to argue by saying that sukuna is universal🤓
People simply don't understand that an anime can have a great power system that operates on a lower range. JJK and Demon Slayer are both examples of that.
Hunter X Hunter is another example. @@raducora7159
It'd be so funny, Tsunsde casually walking through his Domain, and then sucker punch him to the face.
@@SosukeTYBW
Which ain't happening 😂
@@UNKNOWNL3G3NDit's even funnier that she'd run at him in heels and one tap him 😂
@@SosukeTYBWfunny how she probably speed blitzes him
Wouldn't happen
@@VenWhoVian Naruto is like Universal+ He Clapping JJK
sukana vs Naruto would play out like Giriko vs Kenpachi, Sukana would be talking all this shit and just get one shot mid monologue
i feel like we still don't know enough about Sukuna even with his recent fight with gojo/kashimo.
Same. Sure, he doesn't HAVE to be a lot deeper - maybe we've seen his best abilities. But he defo COULD have a lot more up his sleeve.
He slams everyone except Naruto and DMS Kakashi (if you give him that)
.We don’t need extra powers this video doesn’t incorporate how Sukuna fights, his battle IQ, etc. Sukuna in character cuts them in half upon looking at them with his cut that cuts infinity. Quite literally the only thing stopping that is Kamui and Naruto plot armor
@@dominicwoodford5711 Sure, Sukuna beats Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato (with KCM). Whatever helps you sleep at night fam.
@@baonemogomotsi7138 I mean he did cut INFINITY. Explain how they beat that?
He literally is cutting time space and it’s stated he could cut the planet and that’s AOE. This doesn’t consider if he concentrates that into AP.
It took Naruto (and friends) how long to deal with pain almighty push/pull then kamui?
Sukuna dealt with similar (arguably better abilities) in one fight. And now he’s starting off the death battle with said ability to cut. Minato and Naruto are their only hope.
@@dominicwoodford5711lmaoooo
Sukuna before fighting the kage: Nah, I'd win.
Hashirama sending a single wood clone that tears him to shreds: Stand proud Sukuna, you are strong
@@SosukeTYBW Cleave cannot target anything without Cursed Energy, unless it's slash that cut the world, which needs movement, which Hashirama just dodged
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 dismantle
@@Donovan_Berserk
He would tank it
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 even gojo with six eyes couldn't tank it
Kakashi as hokage is stated to be stronger then in the war arc. He cancles multiple country level attacks and has baltantly better feats and this is actually after him being hokage
You really think hokage Kakashi is stronger than a version of him who was spamming kamui which is literally the most op jutsu in Naruto plus with dual Ms pulling out the strongest susano that speed blitzes kaguya
@@ObitoUchiha-er5cvwell it’s stated he’s stronger than he was during the war which can be interpreted in two ways, including DMS or not including DMS. Most (including myself) believe it’s referring to War Arc Kakashi without the DMS since that seems to be more logically consistent with what we’ve seen in the story
Name one “country level attack” that Kakashi has ever blocked, ANY version of him EVER
@@boomynoteattacks from obito, obito can manhandle naruto, naruto can swipe away bijuu bombs like dodgeballs
But he can't even block half a meteor I really doubt hokage kakashi is stronger than dms
Naruto : Domain Expansion ! Solitary Swingset ! ( basically "talk no jutsu" )
Sukuna : WHAT'S HAPPENING ?! It's like his words cut deeper than any blades ?!
Yuji / Megumi : "retakes control on his body"
Sukuna is a bad mf but putting him against casual continent busters is doing my boy dirty, he just fought off the fraud allegations barely with Big Raga’s assist coming in clutch.
None of them are continent busters lmao
@@wolfkingomega1405 on actual crack
@@wolfkingomega1405 cope and seethe
@@wolfkingomega1405 Bro musta watched Saruto 💀Naruto is casually planetary, Hashirama is continental - planetary, DMS Kakashi is at least continental.
@wolfkingomega1405 Bro, naruto reaches multi solar - universal at the end of shippuden. Bro, hashirama is easily multi continental while holding back. Bro, tailed beasts alone are already planetary - multi planetary.
"Stand proud fraudkuna, you are strong"
0:37 yep, because shikamaru is the pinnacle of ninjutsu
Yeah, I’m gonna be real and say the clones from most of these guys are mopping him up
The sukuna meatride is wild lately get this fodder past deku victim first😭😭🙏🙏🛐🛐
Please learn a bit about the characters you talk about before you try and shit talk them lmfao
Stand Proud Midoriya you are cooked💀-Sukuna
@@VenWhoVian cry abt it sukuna is city at best
Deku is large country-continental
Read all of jjk
And they dont get any higher
Those cut the world statements are hyperbolic
He has no planetary feats
Stop overrating the fodder
It seems you guys think bad fandom= weak and struggles with demon slayer verse
@@Zoroislostagaian stand proud sukuna your my victim-deku
@@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv um about the demon slayer statement, yeah not even mahito would struggle with them(Mainly because of his curse technique idle transfiguration, and the fact that he's a lot faster than a whole bunch of demon slayer)
Higaruma would put Tobirama on trail for racism and political extortion
Nah cause like, I'm 100% sure neither Naruto or Hashirama would be able to defend themselves like Yuji, not cause they did something fucked up but cause they just so silly😭😭😭
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954buddy
naruto and hashirama could be sleeping and still tank all of yujis attacks
@@heisenberg368 I meant as in defend in court
Bro this is a crazy vid, I ain’t even watched it yet I just know u wilding😂
real
@@VenWhoVianmf watched 20 mins of explanation of why sukuna is getting destroyed and is still out here glazing him
Only characters from JJK that can solo Naruto verse are -JoGoat, the king of Vulcanos
-Riko Amanai
-The fire extinguisher
-The grasshopper curse(He was very smart)
Valid don’t forget miwa
@@lir134
True, can't forget about God of seas Dagon and The Waffled one Kashimo too🗣️💯🔥
Daddy mahoraga?
@@anujmane2005
If he joins forces with Mommy Agito he stands a chance
sakura solos jjk
I think most ninja would be able to see curses, without verse equalization, given the fact that Chakra is a spiritual substance
Hashirama summoning his Thousand-Armed Buddha Statue would just completely and utterly obliterate Sukuna’s Malevolent Shrine.
Considering that it made Kurama look like a normal sized fox, and fully intact Kurama is over 100 meters (328ft) tall. That’s the minimum estimate.
Just summoning that thing (not that he would need to) would destroy his domain lol.
Mind you, that eas Kurama before he got split into two by Minato, and when we look at how smaller he got, he got at least 3. 1000 hands literally dwarfed mountains
Hashirama - Is taking Sukuna through a walk in the park.
Tobirama - Will have a rough time but will get the job done.
Sarutobi - Never seen him while being young and in action. Giving this one to Sukuna but barely.
Minato - Same as Hashirama, taking Sukuna through a walk in the park in the moon light.
Tsunade - She will need to bring out everything, with her healing abilities and great strength it can go either way.
Kakashi - My man of 1000 jutsu. If he has both Sharingan, he can do it. One sharingan, maybe. No Sharingan? He will put up a damn fight but I see him losing this one in alot of cases.
*Naruto* - He's fucking Sukuna up....Simple. Believe it.
I agree, but I think no sharingan Kakashi gets slaughtered.
@@XilPrivChannel Only reason why I dont say slaughtered is because he has more chakra in reserves now that the sharingan isn't draining him. And he even knows some of the eight inner gates.
I like this list, lore wise i bet young sarutobi can do it, but old hiruzen maybe not
@@XilPrivChannel kakashi is still WAAAAAAAAAAY faster than Sukuna without Sharingan. I think in one of the novels it was stated that Kakashi was leaps beyond his War Arc self in terms of strength, so even without Sharingan kakashi would slap. Sarutobi is def debatable cus we never seen him do much and I dont see Tsunade winning.
@@yourcreepyuncle1135 I would like to say so, but because Sarutobi suffered from the part 1 power scaling syndrome he seems way weaker compared to the rest and despite what is said about him. But because he is so old and hokage I know for he is resourceful
Sukuna would just use his anti Hokage technique from the Hien era
"Ah yes... my anti Hokage technique... I haven't used that since the heian era..."
There's no way these jjk glazers even think he can beat hiruzen💀
Why cant we just accept that both animes are great? And stop comparing ....I know that your ass aint even surviving in jjk nor naruto...Like chill out
@@hh_vectoretc8751 yeah I'm just a human being like your dumb ass your not evolving or a god or something smh
bruh realistically hiruzen actually does have a chance of losing he is so overrated
like the enma wank was crazy af here😭
@@heisenberg368 horizon slams
Before I even start the video, sukuna gets no concept diffed, but let's see what makes him even 1/10th of what any hokage is
Finally...someone that recognizes Minato's sealing abilities way beyond just Reaper Death Seal. Thank you, and have my like!
Kakashi sends Sukuna to the literal shadow realm
Sukuna: KAKASHI. DONT LEAVE ME HERE. KAKASHIIII HELP ME
Dude, I love your guys script and the vid/picture overview. Really well done
Shikamaru isnt holding a candle to Sukuna. He already showed he doesnt even have to move to use cleave and dismantle against Jogo and the sliced and diced sisters. Shikamaru gets no diffed.
Exactly like wtf common sense
Shikamaru is one of the weaker ninja even in his own verse. Hes all strategy and doesnt have any durability or speed feats. One of the few named ninja that Sukuna can definitely beat who is low mid in a head on 1v1. Shikamaru with prep could probably win though since he is smart enough to beat people considerably stronger than him but a straight forward fight should be easy for Sukuna.
Wait he doesn't? I was under the impression he just did it too fast for them to see.
Sliced and diced sisters lmao
@@jon_ovo3653 Yeah but Ten Shadows are literally fodder to Shikamaru it´s basically giving him more shadow material to work with at best, or straight up hijacking the tecnique and summons and make them do his bidding instead.
And this can also apply to mahoraga himself.
Sukuna going Heian is definitely more than enough to handle Shikamaru tho even 15 finger yujikuna can probably do the same but meguna using 10S is getting whacked.
I think Sukuna would be getting the tailed beast treatment. Either his soul be pulled out like with Kurama or he's going to be sealed away.
Sukuna can resist his soul being pulled out or manipulated. Ofc these are statements in the story and he hasn’t been shown doing so, but by statements only sealing would work
@@saucekay6793 JJK seems to only give soul protection to HR users, Mahito's entire thing is manipulating souls, but if you can damage the soul your are his natural enemy, Sukuna has Yuji as his perfect prison.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 he couldn’t harm sukuna or yuji because sukuna was protecting his own, the only reason it’s so effective in modern times is because sorcerers aren’t used to protecting their souls, and it seems the only sorcerers aware of the soul were sukuna, gojo, and yuki.
Yuji would remain unnaffected even without sukuna, he can see the outline of mahito’s soul. Mahito says so. So yuji can protect his with CE, even Nanami protects his but he can’t do it a lot
@@saucekay6793 you're talking about soul resistance, I'm talking about soul protection. Anybody aware of the soul has soul resistance, but Toji and Maki have their souls protected. If Kenjaku absorbed Sukuna, just like Mahito, he would be a mindless puppet like Mahito, at best he would be able to talk.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 1. Your point is pointless because sukuna is a human.
2. Geto can resist kenjaku, you think sukuna couldnt?
This mf gonna step up against Minato and it’s gonna immediately cut to Sukuna in an airport with Uruame 💀
"So, how was the yellow flas-?"
"wtf?! I got no/low diffed?!"
Tsunade might punch Sukuna’s head off when she sees him throw up his hand signs for domain expansion. She punched through madara’s susanoo armor so Sukuna’s defense is butter to her.
Not even butter, that shit is one ply toilet paper.
Depends on whos faster cuz sukuna is ftl and i dont know what tsunade is
@@Tau5439dodging kashimos abilitys in there fight
He’d bisect her before she could bounce her melons
@@SosukeTYBW precisely
Adult Shikamaru is blitzing Sukuna and cutting his head off.
19:20 that was Naruto's Chakra not even kurama's 😂
I actually thought you were gonna pin Gojo against the Hokage. The subject Satoru Gojo is closed. May he rest in peace.
Sukuna is still alive and kicking, I don't think we've seen the entire scope of his abilities yet
Himkuna is un-fuk-witable
Gojo would probably win a lot more of these fights thanks to his hax
Infinitety gives an easy win against most hokage. The only one with a work around possibility is Kakashi if we use his strongest self, and I'm not misunderstanding how Infinitety works
@@bashamd96I'm willing to bet that truth seeking orbs would be able to bypass infinity. If not he just gets Reaper death sealed.
@generalgarchomp333 Truth seeking orbs work by being all chakara natures they'd do nothing to infinitety
Bit of a joke. I genuinely forgot that the Reaper Death Seal existed, so add Minato since I'm not going hypothetical prime 3rd, and I'm blanking on if others would have it
Even though I agree that the Naruto verse scales higher, I think you’re underestimating Sukuna and the JJK verse.
Tsunade wouldn’t be able to survive Malevolent Shrine, he wouldn’t even need to use his flame. The only reason Mahoraga was able to walk through Malevolent Shrine was because he was partially adapted against his attacks and Mahoraga’s regeneration is superior to Tsunade. Tsunade’s durability isn’t particularly impressive, yes she is physically very strong, and has great regeneration, but I don’t think Sukuna would need Malevolent Shrine against her. She can’t blitz him, he can regenerate just as well as she can, and his attacks are more lethal.
Hokage Kakashi is a different story because he is faster and has a lot more flexibility. He is likely to sneak attack him like he did to Kakuzu. Sukuna has insanely good instincts and senses, but he can still be caught off guard, especially if he doesn’t know of Kakashi’s clone ability. I’d give this fight to Kakashi.
Hiruzen, at least from the Chunin Exam arc, is insanely versatile… but he doesn’t have the insane mobility that Kakashi or any of the stronger Hokages have. He would not be able to blitz Sukuna, I’d say 15 fingers Sukuna beats him. Prime Hiruzen should be able to face 20 fingers Sukuna though.
Tobirama is a significantly more difficult opponent for Sukuna than all the previous ones, and is the first character who could escape Malevolent Shrine thanks to his teleportation. With that said, Sukuna is able to handle teleporting opponents like when facing Gojo’s rapid teleportation, or Todo’s Boogie Woogie. With that said, I’m betting on Tobirama on this one.
Minato is even more difficult for Sukuna, and wins. He didn’t have Kurama during his life, so in this fight he shouldn’t have him either. Just with his teleportation, sealing, and rasengan, he should beat Sukuna. With that said, a single large rasengan won’t be enough. Sukuna survived many strikes which are way more lethal than a large rasengan (multiple hollow purples especially). His durability is insanely underrated. Still, Minato wins by sealing him.
Hashirama is more powerful than all the previous Hokage, so he would have an advantage, but I’d say he is not guaranteed a win here simply because he has no counter to Malevolent Shrine.
Naruto talks no jutsu win in 5 minutes. Even if that fails, he still wins the battle.
Shikamaru loses though. I’m sorry bro, Sukuna can use dismantle even without moving, and Shikamaru has no way of knowing or sensing it.
Saying that hashirama loses just proves that you are on drugs
@@eze1196 i need that drug... I NEEED IT wtf
Bro what? Any hokage scales higher than Sukuna, they have fought stronger and faster opponents than Sukuna. I bet you think sukuna is relative to madara. Sukuna barely scales above part 1 naruto characters.
Any hokage out scales Sukuna by far in stats and they all can basically one shot him. Only person who struggles against him is tsuande
Sukuna is getting dogwalked by practically any hokage 1v1. Just the speed difference between the verses is a deciding factor in itself. The fastest characters in jjk are around mach 3, and Naruto high-top tiers are many times faster.
Even if we equalize speed, the hokages are generally just physically stronger and more durable. I don't know if Sukuna can even trap any of them in his domain long enough to do anything significant. Most of the hokage can either tank it and heal: Hashirama, Tsunade, teleport away before anything happens: Tobirama, Minato, Naruto (may as well be teleporting), or do some hax BS and just substitute jutsu their way out. Sorry Sukuna, but you actually trapped a log in your domain. RIP.
fun video, nice collab
Now that JJK has ended, it's crazy seein the panels of 20 finger sukuna from the same fight but from more than a year ago, what the fuck
First off, these dudes are great. This is the first video I’ve seen of either person but I’m liking them a lot and I’m only 14:49 into the video. Definitely gonna keep up with them for a while, but have they watched either show? They are really good at talking to keep you from getting bored and the results they come up with are alright. They way they get to the results sound insane if you listen to the whole video and I’m pretty sure they break their own rules from the jump.
These guys literallygot no clue what theyre talking about theyre talking like pure amateurs from the naruto and jjk side they just arent getting so many facts right
Sukuna my boy wouldn’t even be in the top 100 from naruto 😭🙏
Not even top 1000
Hashirama: has constant passive RCT active, and the true thousand hands in his pocket, practically fondled Madara throughout their lifetime.
Tobirama: Has one of the highest battle iq in the verse, has the flying raijin in his pocket and one of the highest proficiency in water jutsu in the verse.
Hiruzen: Has mastery of the 5 elemental jutsu, has the adamantine staff, and the reaper death seal.
Minato: The fastest shinobi, just behind Naruto. One of the fastest showing of reaction time, and the rasengan in his pocket. He also has the afformentioned reaper death seal, and if you really want to fuck Sukuna up, Minato also has the kurama chakra mode.
Tsunade: Probably has the highest raw attach power of all the Hokages, and has a pseudo infinite RCT.
Kakashi: If we go by DMS Kakashi, Sukuna is not doing anything to him, even with Mahoraga, DMS Kakashi can snipe it's head off. One sharingan Kakashi still has a 1000 jutsu in his pocket, plus one of the highest battle iq in the verse.
Naruto: Naruto can fart in Sukuna's general direction and fondle him.
@@SosukeTYBW What part of infinite constant RCT did you not get. Plus, I don't think Sukuna can get one of his slashes in, majority of the Hokage can speed blitz him before he could even think of slashing
@@SosukeTYBW firstly if all em waves are only light speed ina vacuum secondly sukuna could see the spark of ce thirdly a zero tail early Naruto could react to hakus light speed mirror trick personally I don't like using that scaling since it's just as inconsistent as the sukuna light speed scaling but hey if you give him that outlier you gotta give the Naruto verse the outlier feats as well
@@tachimesan6133 so considering sukuna can damaged mahito would mean sukunas attack damage soul and neither hashirama nor tsunade show ability to heal soul damage so so none of them are really going to tank sukunas attack
well sadly first 3 hokage blitz sukuna too hard
considering there are statement that would put adult raikage on level of minato in speed would mean doesnt have much channce , if you use edo tense minato , he never show ability to break free from control of orochimaru so he would just stand there unable to do anything
i mean she would just try to tanked the attack and die , there isnt much tsunade can do
considering DMS kakashi is fusion of kakashi+obitos spirit , you cannt even consider it his form , its their form so cannt really be used
naruto blitz
@@randomdude6446 so edo haku (weaker than alive) blitz war arc kakashi , this war arc kakashi was shown to be relative to kcm naruto in their jinjuriki vs jinjuriki fight , which either mean you think kid naruto is faster than kcm , or you know that haku was holding back and was exhousted when they react to him and so they doesnt scale and just want to lie to eveyone and hope they wouldnt find out
@@lukaskrivda9374I literally mentioned how inconsistent but so is the higher end of jjk scaling I literally said if you give jjk that weird outlier that naruto gets it's weird outlier as well ...haku literally had no reason to hold back or be that exhausted either as for soul damage literally every Naruto character can see and interact with souls as proven when Edo pain tried that soul stealing ability
All of the Hokage at once vs Sakuna one second and he’s dead.💀
The only reason Gojo did as well as he did against the Akatsuki is his Limitless and the stun effect of his Domain. Sukuna is not able to do that, so he has no way to prevent attacks hitting him, so the only way he can survive is Reverse Cursed Technique, but that won't last long
Imagine he makes someone like Hashirama as a vessel, things would get interesting.
Everyone will have to pack their bags up at that point 😂😭
Couldn't they just a seal to stop sukuna?
Bros gonna summon a forest just so he can chop it all down with his domain lmao
nah, Sukuna would be the vessel of Hashirama
@@l.lawliet2821 that would be absolutely busted with hashiramas 100healings, and Sage Art 😭
Using the mid range of scaling for both, that Sukuna scales to Gojo’s earthquake he caused which is calced to island+ to small country level (obviously), and that the Hokage are bare minimum mountain++ to island level for scaling to Bijuu. And assuming speed is equalized otherwise the Hokage blitz.
1) He beats Tsunade, she can tank shrine but then a fire arrow obliterates her.
2) Old man Hiruzen doesn’t have the stamina.
3) Minato stomps
4) Tobirama stomps
5) Hashirama stomps
6) Kakashi stomps
7) Naruto stomps
EDIT: since y’all included Shikamaru, in the novel where Shikamaru catches all the Kage in shadow paralysis, he later tries to use it on a tree and can’t break it and he realizes that the 5 Kage just let him act big but they would’ve slapped him. So he can’t do shit to Sukuna.
Finally and ik for a fact you watch both series, thank you. Although i do think tsunade has some win cons
Kakashi doesnt slap. If he had the sharingan he takes sukuna out ez pz, but this is hokage Kakashi. Hokage Kakashi is not only fearless, but his chakra nature gets nerfed by sukunas weapon, that literally negs lighting. You would have to hope the EM wave feat is disproven so Kakashi speed blitzes, because Kakashi cant survive any of sukunas attacks. In Naruto, a Kunai can take out a high level ninja, and Kakashi isn't one of the few durable characters (like 3 on this list).
Tsunade ap is extremely high. She can put down sukuna and pretty much heal from anything
Tsunade can maybe break Sukuna’s torso,but he can heal pretty effortlessly from that kind of injury
@@zedantyorant if cutting someone in half is enough to kill them he won’t heal. Like she blew huge portions outta madara of all people. Like the entire half of his body was gone from one punch
This video needs updated after seeing what Sukuna has recently done.
Hokage still dog walk them
I just had a shower thought. Naruto is a world where everyone has a heavenly restriction.
This is an interesting match up. I just think there's poor analysis of how the fight would go out. I can't tell if you were serious or just simply joking around.
Facts
True, Sukuna wouldn't even be able to cast his Domain expansion
Honestly Minato is as fast as Toji and Sukuna is probably faster than that. This is a lot of hyperbolic bs, when you said someone from Naruto is light speed you completely lost any credibility you had.
"As fast as Toji"
Toji>=
@@SosukeTYBW
HOLY FUCK THEY MIGHT BE FASTER THAN KID OUT OF CHAKRA KAKASHI!(he literally cut Lightning in half while being nearly passed out)
@@SosukeTYBW
1. Kakashi is light speed as adult, he can trade blows with semi Supressed WM Obito and react to Jinchuriki who at this point should>>>>>Raikage. Moreso, Kakashi can react and fight on same tiers as KCM Minato, as we see how they reached the same place at the same time when Zetsu remerged
2. Every Hokage is Light Speed and mid+ tiers as well
Lmao Naruto was dodging lightspeed attacks since the war arc
@@SosukeTYBW
1. She matched her blows with light speed at
2. Lower tier of FTL feats, lmao. So nah, doesn't mean shit. Hashirama blitzes
3. Oh, so giving him 10S but with World Slash? Even tho Mahoraga died before he obtained it? What is it? Some kind of composite Mahoraga? Anyways, Edo Hashirama would stomp with that.
4. It targets invidual atoms, doesn't mean it always destroys them. Naruto's characters atoms>>>>>to that
Ok if tsunade bullies sukuna then I don’t know how someone could think that he beats any other hokage
TBH Wave arc Haku probably beats Sukuna if you take into account actual combat ability and ignore Haku's pacifism.
nah fr tho gojo was dog walking sukuna before he leant the slash
Do You think if sukuna was put in a situation where he wasn't the strongest that he would be willing to train to become the strongest again and how do you think he would feel about that?
He would love it
He would definitely train to get stronger. He literally used his fight with Gojo to get stronger. Thats how he learned how to cut space in the first place. His adaptability, skill and technique are ridiculous.
It’s his narrative that’s why he’s slamming all the hokage except Minato and Naruto. Mahoraga is symbolic to his philosophy as a sorcerer. Noticed they never talked about how he cut infinity right? That’s for a reason 😂
@@dominicwoodford5711 wait so you think minato beat sukuna but , first 3 hokage dont ? why
@@dominicwoodford5711his not beating no kages bro 2 of which out speed him.
Bro is creating his own happiness which is just sad. 😢 Kabuto solos that verse.
hahahaha
This man must hate sukuna Because this man put sukuna against the 5 kage
Yeah
It’s a slaughter for sukuna they can’t heal and he’d take their limbs and life easily
@@jon_ovo3653wdym they can’t heal 💀
@@CrazyXay exactly what I said they can’t damn heal on tsunda can and idk if she can heal limbs lol and repeating getting slashed would kill any of them a fucking kunai ends the dudes lives
@@jon_ovo3653 the nine tails heals Naruto, tsunde healed form getting cut in half, madara said said hashirama could heal without hand signs and was better then tsunade.
The Kage being stuck inside of a Space Cutting Malevolent Shrine:
mmmmm that meat taste good?
0:47
The one who is most fit to be hokage will be appointed. It doesn’t have much to do with the highest pinnacle of ninjutsu
I think the funniest interaction with Kakashi and Sukuna would be Kakashi using Kamui on malevolent shrine.
And on him being powered up later on ... I don't think any amount of power will save him from Six Paths or Baryon Mode naruto. Truth Seeking Orbs completely negate rct and bypass defenses. Now Maharaga could theoretically adapt, but that doesn't really help much when it literally deletes his head from existence.
Stop talking out your ass lol sukuna would read them and wash them especially weak kakashi should’ve been dead long ago but Naruto verse just can’t finish the job sukuna always finish the job Lkashi gettting washed
hashirama has sage art/mode that makes him sense sukunas attack coming. tobirama, minato, who are sensory type users where naruto, who is best in using sage mode giving example when he was able to dodge light attack and sense madara's limbo.
JJK characters don’t scale to world spaces they create in their Domains
Yes they do. JJK is a series that is AP and AOE combined. When you scale their feats they do scale to world spaces.
They literally get buffed in their domains lol
@@dominicwoodford5711 No, it's stated and implied quite a lot that domain expansions use far more CE than the amount used for CE reinforcement, CT's and attacks imbued with cursed energy. Nearly 0 sorcereres can activate domain expansion multiple times in a day, apart from characters with absolutely massive amounts of CE (sukuna) or characters who have practically infinite amounts (gojo, hakari). So this means if characters did use the same amount of CE for attacks and CE reinforcement they'd only be able to fight for very short amounts of time. Ds characters would easily dodge their maximum of 3 attacks (Most ds humans better stamina feats than jjk humans) and one tap them easily. It's also stated that CT burns out immediately after domain expansion (with yuta, even after a little while, his CT hadnt come back) . In jjk, characters use their cursed techniques multiple times in a fight, one example being mahito and their cursed energy doesn't seem to burn out even after tens of uses. After one domain expansion however, Uro and yuta couldn't use their cursed techniques after one domain expansion. Keep in mind yuta not even that long ago had his cursed energy replenished by rika. Also, there's jogo himself, who right after using domain expansion couldnt use RCT to heal his body (unless beheading slows it down or stops it for curses, as gojo says that beheading can stop RCT for sorcerers at least, idk if it applys to curses since they are naturally better at RCT) after gojo beheaded him. So basically, characters don't scale to their domain in terms of AP and durability.
@@landendrakethat doesn't mean they scale to them lol
The way No Op said Kamui kilt me ngl lmaooo
SUKUNA IS NOT MOUNTAIN LEVEL. He's max large city 💀 Domain are just projection of their inner self not an actuap creation scaling. Dagon has fucking sun in his Domain, does that mean he scales to star level? HELL NO. Creation feats should scale how big their domain is from the outside not inside
not only can hiruzen use enma he can literally make an indestructable cage out of him
Sometimes, I listen and check in on these videos, and even after Naruto, being my first anime, I watched through completely... I have to wonder how much time and effort people put into scaling for, no reason whatsoever, I don't mean Operator and Ronin. I just mean overall, I watched Naruto through and through, and yet some of these statements are just like, a big giant question mark to me.
Word
No exaggeration, post chunin exam kid Naruto low diffs Sukuna. Low balling, weightless Lee was moving at Mach 20+, and we know that Sasuke was said to be relative to weightless Lee. Naruto in base was similar to Sasuke in bass in terms of speed. Even if you wanna say Sasuke was faster, it wasn’t by much. So kid Naruto IN BASE is Mach 20+. Sukuna has no feats of being even above Mach 8. This is an insane speed blitz.
@@SosukeTYBW
1. Prove Kashimo is faster than lightning
2. He doesn't move at light speed, he shoots light speed attacks. Congrats, bro might be as fast as Random Anbu number 56
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954u made bro remove his comment
sukuna would explode on impact like a watermelon if naruto punched him in the face
I saw this video in my recommended and just started LAUGHING
You guys lowball sukuna so much, im not saying he wins the fights but these things need to to clear
1. His dismantle and cleave are light speed(proved when kashimo couldnt dodge this and his attacks and body had properties of EM waves which is light speed)
2.his domain literally cuts and disintegrates everything in range tsunade cannot survive limbs being chopped off
3.sukuna only couldnt tank lightning because he was very exhausted from the gojo fight and after he awakened he no diffed kashimo
Sukuna doesn't need time to adjust cleave, it auto adjusts itself to the opponents level and his cleave recently cut space time itself so all he needs to do is fire off one slash and most of them die
Bra it doesn't matter trust the guys who literally live on jjk for views and watched or read both series and I agree sukuna gets one tapped
1.lol even if u wank that feat it dosen't really matter since haku in part 1 was stated to be light speed and all the kage are massively massively faster than him
2 we literally saw gojo tanked and heal while being cut up by the domain unless your implying gojo has better durability and healing than someone like hashi or naruto which he dosen't minato and tobirama teleports to another country with ftg so no dice there and if they were edos malevolent shrine does actually nth
3 bud sukuna couldn't even properly tank a city block level hollow purple that wasn't even focus at him without losing half his body what makes you think he can tank attacks that bully bijuus
Space time cleave that Kashimo blatantly dodges. The Kage shit on sukuna badly.
@@z.e.d4037 barely dodged sukuna even told him to dodge and he still got hit by it. Look back at the panel he is missing his arm or something similar.
@Qbone_ just cause he told him to dodge dosent mean it will magically make him faster, he still needed to perceive the attack coming and move his body out of the way, even if he lost a limb Naruto characters are blatantly faster than Kashimo so they would just dodge it completely.
That is what happens when you turn powerscaling into a sudoprofession, you start to take hyperbolic statements as facts: Haku is lightspeed and so is kid Sasuke since he hit him, even tough Itachi is incapable of reacting to REAL lightning of Kirin! Kishimoto like to use hyperbole to make his character look cooler but when you start to count Ls we see that most characters are still vulnerable to live steel of all things. Also, saying Kakashi is lightning speed because of Haikiri while ignoring the main selling point of the sharingan is the foresight it grants in disingenuous. Kakashi doesn't need to be as fast as lightning to anticipate with the sharingan.
Finally, saying Minato and Tobirama could easily defeat Sukuna if you shove a cable up their ass and control then is one thing, but in character and ignorant about Sukuna's capability they are both toast. There is no way Minato's rasengan has greater output than Gojo's Red, and sukuna survived getting his back blow by one. The moment Sukuna pull his Domain they are both as good as dead as they will only get wise about its sure-hit effect after they are subject to it. it is a perfect counter to the flying thunder god.
In all truth I don't understand what this video was abt🤔 like they just neg anything Sukuna had for him. It's like they don't see him as a character per say but just look at the verse itself like bcse Sukuna is from jjk he can NEVER defeat any one from the Naruto verse let alone the kages like WTF😂😂😂. Honestly and in all respect this video felt so childish😅
Naruto Solos the verse
minatos rasengan scales to kuramas planetary beast ball my guy.
Idk we haven’t seen enough of Sukuna in his full power yet
seriosuly and unveiling yur CT already gives you a decent boost on top of that
can we keep bullying Sukuna? I kinda wanna see a video of him versus each of the Gotei Captains lmao
"Oh boy, I will go fight Kenpachi!"
*Next chapter starts with Mahoraga greeting him at the airport and asking how strong was Kenpachi*
17:40 he is a lot Faster then all hokages, except Kakashi and Naruto
But he has below tree Lvl AP
I can understand the scaling and all, but what actual concrete value would having shadow clones add into the fight? We've seen that shadow clones are usually taken out in one hit, and cleave could just auto target onto the clones which shouldn't be an issue for Sukuna.
it depends on the strength of the enemy or how strong they decide to make the clones. Naruto sent multiple across multiple battlefields in the 4th great ninja war, who all fought full length battles.
Shadow clones are nothing but a minor distraction for sukuna
@@boomynoteyuh no sukuna would die to itachi clone 😭itachi not even gonna fight him he gonna send like 2 shadow clones nd pack him up
Naruto practically ended the war by sending one shadow clone to each battlefield and helped if not downright beat up some of the strongest reanimations by himself. The one that defeated the Third Raikage was a Naruto clone. And that Naruto clone later on went to smack the Second Tsuchikage with a Rasengan and then helped in fighting Madara before being taken out.
Even in early Naruto, his clones could take a few hits before disappearing
@@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686 Not strong hits though, i'm 99% sure it was stated in at least one of the fights you referenced that he had to be especially careful because if he took one bad hit he (the clone) would disappear.
That said, overall I do agree with your points and think Naruto's shadow clones don't get enough credit for their efforts in the war
Short answer no sukuna can’t beat any of the kage.
The best speed scaling comes from Kashimo and even then it’s iffy. most people agree. He’s not even a dodging the attack, but I am dodging so he wouldn’t even scales to the speed of the attack. The FTl arguments aren’t too good and all the kage can be scaled to at least relativistic if not higher. Also, all the
Kage have the AP to put Sukuna down in one attack Sukuna cannot win.
1.) Kashimo scaling isn't iffy, it's fairly consistent.
2.) No not all Kage are relativistic, Hiruzen is like Hypersonic or some shit, Minato and higher are all relativistic+
3.) Sukuna cannot be put down in one hit unless that hit comes from Naruto and it's straight to his head. Sukuna has RCT plus crazy dura feats
Tsunade has arguably the strongest ap aside from naruto, hashirama, and boruto kakashi. I honestly think she will one shot him especially if she can see cleave and dismantle lol. They are also not using the higher scalings for the kage
@@SosukeTYBWright?
@@SosukeTYBW she has healed from worse. Like a lot worse. And she is decently faster. Plus if she guts cut in half Katsuya will easily defend and help her. Only reason it took so long to heal her against Madara is cause she was out of chakra and healing the 5 Kage from close to death. She survived what Gojo didn’t and still was healing people. It really want kill her. And slash won’t work on katsuyu since she just breaks apart and spits acid on Sukuna. The stat difference is to high. She will blow a hole in him. And she is faster… and plus it looked like Kashimo saw it, like he literally did cause he called it out before it hit him
@@SosukeTYBW no she needed help cause she was drained from fighting Madara and healing the Kage before healing herself. Sukuna is no where near madara and it’s a good chance sukuna wong get her to the point where madara could. Also you acting like a dura neg slice is THAT crazy. If that was the case Kakashi with Kamui would be the strongest character. Plus Kashimo saw the slices coming
yea the sword that was casually destroying mountains and not mere buildings @@SosukeTYBW
Sukuna survived 2 hollow purple, who tf is tsunade
14:35 I’m guessing Sukuna cleave and dismantle to the naked eye, huh…
I’m talking about 15 finger sukuna by the way…
Bros forgetting what hashira a did to madara and nine tails.. the violation was wild 😂😂😂 kurama got grabbed like a stuffed toy and madara got back shotted by Hashirama😂😂😂😂😂
So what you're saying is, Sukuna gets bodied 9 times out of 10 until Miwa shows up and picks up the slack?
Havent seen everything he can do yet
@@nicoflight3982He still gets pooped on by most of the Naruto verse
Its the opposite really,what’s some random Ambu gonna do against Sukuna
Hashirama accidentally one punch sukuna along with jjk
I feel like people turn their brains off with JJK vs videos. I get it’s popular right now but I see people out here saying PTS Naruto beats Sakuna and Gojo. . . Like homies please lmao
KCM1 is enough
Sukuna: Oh lord oh help me mahoraga!
The Hokages: Fight back bro fight back!
3 seconds later: The Hokages win!
W real
Sukana can cut anything and they can’t see his cleave…. And we know sukana likes to finish fights quickly imo he beats all of them
That's just false with verse equalization
Naruto can sense and fight Madara's limbo clones that are imperceptible as they occupy a seperate plane of reality
Every senjutsu user Naruto, Hashirama, Tsunade, Minato will all be able to perceive cleave and dismantle
Sharingan Kakashi will be able to see it like gojo can
Hiruzen and tobirama can probably also perceive it as they probably have senjutsu but i'm not sure, yet it doesn't matter because they blitz him regardless
Gojo definitely could, and about Naruto it's not about seeing Cleave or dismantle. It's about sensing the attacks. He couldn't see the limbo clones, but his ability to perceive danger is so acute he was able to fight transdimensional beings that could not be perceived. Cleave and dismantle ain't touching him @@SosukeTYBW
I'm honestly shocked at how these narutards think Naruto characters would even hold a finger to Sukuna. Sukuna's cleave is literally instant. Cleave happens even before Naruto could finish saying ka in kage bunshin no jutsu.
The question is how quickly does sukuna get one shot by any of the hokage and the answer is very quickly
@@SosukeTYBW ignoring the fact that even a random anbu could blitz tf outta Sukuna yh the Kage probably could just see through his technique and it wouldn't even hurt them unless he uses the slash he used against Gojo. So if you argue that world slash is a one shot it makes no difference because all the Kage can one shot him and theyre leaps and bounds faster
@@SosukeTYBW sukuna is most certainly not ftl. And... So what? Random jonin are stated to be Lightspeed. All the hokage are easily mftl and would blitz sukuna no difficulty
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@@Vid_21domain expansion is going to slaughter them except naruto and mayb kakashi
@@Vid_21your overwanking the fuck out of naruto
Typing this as I go, the glazing in this video is nuts, I'm not saying Sukuna wins every fight, but god damn my boy is getting shot.
1.) I feel that Tsunade gets packed up pretty quick by Malevolent Shrine, just because even Gojo couldn't keep up well with healing from that kind of onslaught, which I compare high level RCT to like 3/4 the healing power as 100 healings imo(RCT heals quicker, but 100 healings is shown to be able to heal much graver wounds). You bring up Mahoraga healing through DE, but he didn't heal, he just adapted and negated the sure-hit altogether.
2.) Another Tsunade one, what is her speed? I mean Sukuna scales to like, 2-3x FTL with the Kashimo fight? Which forgive me being an idiot on Naruto scalings, but like, only people like Minato and Naruto/Sasuke can even compare to that, Minato with hax ofc, and Naruto and Sasuke through shear speed and minor hax(like Amenotejikara). I just see Sukuna blitzing people like Kakashi and Tsunade. Yes I know Kakashi has the lightning bolt feat as a kid, but Sukuna was able to dodge EM waves(which are light speed, while lightning bolts are not) with moderate difficulty, which keep in mind, was right after his fight with Gojo, so he was beaten and fatigued, and still dodging light speed attacks.
3.) How are we equating Jutsus to Cursed Techniques? If we're equating them to two sides of the same coin, it stands to reason that Jutsus would be disabled within a Domain Expansion, as Cursed Techniques are nullified within another persons domain. Also Kamui is a once or twice time move for Kakashi that he cannot aim well, it seriously strains him and lowers his chakra reserves. Also the whole Ten Tails snipe is irrelevant to this convo unless we're using DMS Kakashi, as we don't know how having the second MS amps his Kamui hax, we know he could use Kamui a ton more once he got the other eye, and he was using Kamui shuriken for that scene anyways.
4.) I'm gonna be straight, there is so much glazing going on here in this video, it's making my head spin. Hiruzen gets packed and sent home, cause fuck the jutsus, he doesn't even have the speed to match Sukuna. Sukuna has RCT and durability to tank, and fuck any kind of defense Hiruzen has because World-Rending Slash sends his ass back to the Reapers stomach. Speaking of the Reaper Death Seal, Sukuna has soul knowlege, so it's as simple as cutting his soul where Hiruzen grabbed him, and then RCTing his arms back, it's been done, Hiruzen doesn't have, in the words of Big Raga: "Any pack he ain't smoke yet".
5.) Finally, a character I can see posing a decent challenge out of sheer stats and versatility alone. Tobirama Senju, has a shit ton to his name, Flying Raijin, Shadow Clones, the works. However there are a few reasons I can see Sukuna pulling through a dub here. Firstly speed, while Tobirama has FR, it's directly stated that he cannot use it as well as Minato can, but I see him probably keeping up with the Fraudulent one. As for dura, Tobirama is going up against World-Rending Slash so his dura is irrelevant. Sukuna tanks most because of RCT(again) and other than him taking off his head(which I don't see being that easy, I mean Mahoraga tried it and Sukuna legit made a mouth where the blade made contact and used the mouth to shatter the blade), I just don't see Tobirama inflicting more damage in one hit than an attack that **destroys space at an atomic level** like Hollow Purple.
6.) Minato blitzes, lets get that out of the way. You will get no argument from me that Minato aboslutely negs Sukuna in terms of speed, but then again, one good Malevolent shrine packs him up, especially if like I said earlier Domain Expansion disables Flying Raijin, then he's double fucked. Rasengan works very well, and could kill him, provided his head is destroyed. Once again I don't see Reaper Death Seal working here, so I think Minato poses a decent challenge, but not enough to send home the King of Curses. Unless we're talking war arc Minato, which 9/10 times packs Sukuna up and sends him crying home to Mommy, Sukuna can do damage because he directly strikes the soul(as shown when he attacks Mahito) so no Edo-tensei healing here, but Bijuu-Chakra cloak Minato just sends him home packing with power and speed.
Thats pretty much it from me, Hashirama and Naruto pack up Sukuna fairly neatly, with the only gripe I have is that Hashirama doesn't have the speed feats to stack up to Sukuna, and Senjutsu doesn't sense Dismantle and Cleave.
I'm generally not a JJGlazer, but I couldn't watch my boy get done this dirty.
I didn't read this wall fo text in its entirety, but you're missing many things about Kakashi, for example. He could use Kamuo more times than just 2 in the War(even before getting chakra from Naruto) and he was super precise with it. He literally Kamui'd a Rasengan and even in the Pain Arc he managed to Kamui a nail before it hit him. The Ten Tails Kamui happens before getting his second MS, it only ends cause Obito negates it with his own Kamui but otherwise he would have taken the head of the Gedo Statue off.
@@Awoken0 You are right I did forget a lot of the war arc Kamui feats, thanks for reminding me
Hmm some of the things you said are true, and I respect that …this is a fair take
sukuna is not ftl pls stfu he is at best light speed
Might guy will be asking for his name after the fight is over
Sukuna. Where do I begin. I'm sorry for you my pokie bear. You've just beaten yujo. waffles the speedy one, biceted the honored one, sparked the one blessed with the sparks, yet is completely outclassed by a bunch of sandal wearing ninjas. My nightmare, my pookie cookie, you are cooked.
YAYAYYAYAYAYA.....i have to walk home from work in 2 hrs.....thanks for my Wallin video...not a big Naruto fan..so I won't feel the need to "watch" insted of listening