Should You Cancel Your Engagement?

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
  • Elizabeth addresses if a woman should go through with her wedding despite discovering her fiancé's porn addiction during marriage prep. Elizabeth offers compassionate advice on navigating this difficult situation, exploring the essential aspects of engagement, and the importance of freedom in marriage. If you're facing similar challenges or need guidance on engagement and marriage, this video is for you.
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    01:02 This Is Scary
    02:01 What Do You Vow to In Marriage
    04:19 If You DON'T Feel Free
    05:33 If You DO Feel Free
    06:49 Would It Actually Be Easier?
    08:41 Being Catholic Doesn't Divorce Proof You
    10:29 Seek the LORD
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  • @deannajunkin3696
    @deannajunkin3696 Місяць тому +16

    This is 100% good advice. I know from personal experience.

    • @laur5486
      @laur5486 Місяць тому +4

      Yes! I have seen people in my life go through the same - not with the porn addiction specifically but with going through with the wedding even though they had hesitations.

  • @ev_green_
    @ev_green_ Місяць тому +6

    We also should have said and asked, how deep is his addiction? And how long? That MATTERS

  • @anna-katehowell9852
    @anna-katehowell9852 Місяць тому +15

    Just did two weeks ago. 😢

    • @deannajunkin3696
      @deannajunkin3696 Місяць тому +7

      I was in a situation where I felt obligated to marry my now ex-husband. I am Protestant and did not know any of these teachings at the time. I did pray for God to do something to stop the wedding from happening. I don't know your situation, but I hope you feel peace with the decision to end your engagement. I did not have the nerve to end it for many of the reasons described in this video.

    • @strawberrysmile2212
      @strawberrysmile2212 Місяць тому

      How are you feeling? I am wanting to end things but I am so afraid of mine and his pain.

    • @anna-katehowell9852
      @anna-katehowell9852 Місяць тому

      @@strawberrysmile2212 part of me wants to die and part of me knows I dodged the biggest bullet of my life

    • @anitaklara7428
      @anitaklara7428 Місяць тому

      @@strawberrysmile2212I had to break my engagement due to a serious reason that I found out once we got engaged . It was painful and teary but I had to do it. It was right thing to do and I asked God foe help. Pain had disappeared with a time and I found a right man to marry. If I could advise is: engagement is NOT a marriage. It’s better to break engagement then later on marriage. It will be painful but pain will go away and now when I look back I can only tell you it was a right decision and I’m happy I took it and did it. Have courage !

  • @strawberrysmile2212
    @strawberrysmile2212 Місяць тому +3

    This video comes like another sign from God to me. I am in a now 5 year relationship and since two years I want to break up, but in the beginning of that somehow my boyfriend convinced me we fit good together and it's better to be lonely together than lonely alone. But now I just feel so anxious about breaking up, because I really don't want to hurt him. He truly loves me and is so sweet towards me. But on the other side I can't give this love back to him. I tried sooo often but it's just not the right fit. I know I should break up, I really do and I told him, but I just can't do it. Today is another day where I said to myself: Today I will break up. But it is possible that again I will get cold feet. And it really drives me crazy. I already feel the stress in my physical health going down the road (since a few months I suffer reflux and I am only 23 years old). I already talked to so many people, to my spiritual director, to many close friends, to my mother and went to confession so often and talked to priests. God please help me and let me drink this cup.

    • @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
      @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable. We're praying for you, sister! Feel free to reach out to Elizabeth directly on Instagram @discerningmarriage

    • @strawberrysmile2212
      @strawberrysmile2212 Місяць тому

      ​@@TheologyoftheBodyInstitutethank you so much for your support and your prayers! Unfortunately I can't log in in my old Instagram account. Would an email contact be possible?

    • @mariemunzar6474
      @mariemunzar6474 3 дні тому

      If something's telling you to break up, I think that means something. I think you wouldn't be constantly questioning it if it was the right relationship for you. Maybe take some time off and if the thoughts continue you may need to end it. From personal experience when I got thoughts like that something really was off about the relationship even though I couldn't consciously identify it at the time because I was blinded by the relationship. You may also feel he is in love with you but there is something about you that is not wanting the relationship to continue, maybe it isn't the love you need. He also shouldn't have to talk you into being in a relationship with him, you should be naturally wanting the relationship for yourself. He probably can sense that something is off and that you are not fully happy. You are young and 5 years is a long time for you have been reflecting on the relationship.

  • @land1238
    @land1238 Місяць тому +4

    Is someone with a porn addiction able to get married? I don't think someone with a porn addiction is free and faithful. In my opinion he could not marry because he could not promise fidelity and he does not own himself. You are saying we need to be free and faithful for the marriage to be valid.

  • @IS-kf4nr
    @IS-kf4nr Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for this video. Would love to hear more about what entering into a marriage freely looks like.

  • @danieltuckercatholic
    @danieltuckercatholic Місяць тому +1

    Elizabeth, I love your videos, and I look forward to each new one that comes out! I especially appreciate how they integrate so often and so thoroughly both the sacramental and the clinical sides of dating/relationships/marriage..."grace builds on nature," and all that. Please keep up your very fine work. Through the intercession of Pope St John Paul II, may God continue to bless you and everyone at the TOB Institute!

    • @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
      @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the positive feedback. God bless you, brother! Feel free to reach out to Elizabeth directly @discerningmarriage on Instagram.

  • @elenarewd9299
    @elenarewd9299 Місяць тому +2

    Be careful with therapists….some encourage pornography use and may tell him it’s ok once it isn’t “too much”. Instead, he needs to go to his priest for confession and guidance to stop it. They both need to cling to their faith and help each other become closer to God. I know someone who used to watch pornography before marriage and just stopped cold turkey because he loved his spouse. He doesn’t even allow himself to look at images or even at immodestly dressed women (he averts his eyes). He loves God before all else.
    This couple need to deep dive to see how much they love each other and God to determine if they should get married. If he has intense shame and a deep faith, they can work through it! If he is lukewarm (or even if she is lukewarm), they need to break it off. Pornography is damaging. The horror stories of marriages destroyed is enough for this to be viewed the same way as adultery.

  • @JewelBlueIbanez
    @JewelBlueIbanez Місяць тому +1

    The marriage is presumed valid until the Church declares it invalid after careful scrutiny.

  • @Justyouraverageguy172
    @Justyouraverageguy172 Місяць тому +2

    Honestly, I would break the engagement off if she was not as firm and agreement with me about not divorcing and working through all our problems together with each other instead of being against each other.

    • @BryanKirch
      @BryanKirch Місяць тому

      Exactly he shouldn’t marry her. She’s so young psychologically she won’t be able to handle real marriage. He needs to face his demons but she hasn’t even recognized she has anything about herself to repair.

    • @love...leah.
      @love...leah. Місяць тому +2

      it's easy to make excuses and say she would be at fault for leaving, but in a marriage that's open to life where children will be involved, they will follow suit. kids see everything, and imitate everything, whether you want them to know or not. it's something that needs to be addressed before any true intimacy should even be considered.

    • @Justyouraverageguy172
      @Justyouraverageguy172 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@love...leah.Yep. For us Catholics we must be with another Catholic, no divorce, and no excuses for infidelity and not openly communicating and discussing things as adults do.

    • @SavvyArtz
      @SavvyArtz Місяць тому

      Genuinely asking because I’m trying to make sure I understand your perspective- you’re saying that if in the course of considering the possibility of marriage, if it comes out that either partner is already acting unfaithfully prior to that commitment, both partners need to concede and deal with it?
      I agree that if it came out once the marriage had already been fulfilled, the couple needs to work through it together. But prior to making that commitment and being joined together, it seems wise to consider the cost and determine if the other person is going to be faithful as well. Entering into that relationship with the knowledge that one partner is actively emotionally cheating seems like poor planning on both ends.

    • @Justyouraverageguy172
      @Justyouraverageguy172 Місяць тому +1

      @@SavvyArtzIf there is cheating before the engagement or marriage in the relationship then it will not stop in marriage either and the wise thing to do is end it as there’s no excuse for it. But if it happens in a marriage, then I don’t believe in divorce myself but could leave as it’s justified grounds to do so.

  • @BryanKirch
    @BryanKirch Місяць тому +4

    He brought it up because he’s being honest. Now he’s being punished? Be careful getting advice from other people about what’s good. This UA-camr seems very psychologically young. I also think the person who asked this question is too naive and immature to get married.

    • @LeoneGalante
      @LeoneGalante Місяць тому +15

      I think she's on point.😀

    • @BryanKirch
      @BryanKirch Місяць тому +2

      @@LeoneGalante ironically Paul said marriage is for people struggling with lust. Someone who’s so naive to not understand what boys are facing with the demon of lust as Ai generates more loving and compassionate sudo wives. This guy is the only honest one in the situation everyone else is so blind to their own sin they can’t see that the fiancé is being brave by facing his sin. The girl and the yiutuber can’t even see they have any. Immaturity squared

    • @TonyHarrington25
      @TonyHarrington25 Місяць тому +9

      @@BryanKirchstop excusing lust. If this is a teenager struggling with porn, so be it. But this is a man called to lay down his life for the woman he loves. It’s not punishing him for being honest; it’s recognizing that he’s not ready to enter into the sacrament

    • @TonyHarrington25
      @TonyHarrington25 Місяць тому +6

      @@BryanKirchif a man can’t bring himself to not look at naked ai women, then he should evaluate what he won’t be able to do after he’s married

    • @BryanKirch
      @BryanKirch Місяць тому

      @@TonyHarrington25 yes that’s exactly why Paul said people struggling with it should marry. Have you read the Bible?