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Great thorough review!! Thank you

I just got a lucid air vandal in the mail and can’t wait to try it!

The molds are all former protype molds from MVP as part of the over mold prototyping etc.. They licnce those molds to 3rd parties. But the do like 10,000 discs per run and the license holders the buy off that run. The rest are sold as REMIX. As per VODR.

A question I've never seen addressed is when is it time to step up in speed? ie. I'm lucky to get 230 feet with my Diamond and consistently get 190 plus with the Underworld. It makes me think a Jade is a waste of time for me at this point. Your thoughts?

Would love to se a review of these in premiumplastic 😊

The Longbowman has been the only disc that has not left my bag in the last 6 years. Most reliable and comfortable forehand disc in the bag

I wonder if the distance difference has to do with rim width. Truth is 15mm, trust is 13mm (and maybe should be labeled as speed 4)

Just got the retro. Horrible disc

Lonbowman has been my bread and butter disc for ages. I use it for skip approaches, and it's consistent fade for my forehand throws. Solid forehand disc

Are all Moonshine Disc glow?

Hey Bmo haven't seen you post anything in a while hope everything is well !

Great to see demo throws with different discs, Cheers!

Swan 2 in BT soft is $!

Interesting how these are flying for u. I hyzer flip my tursas to get a ton of turn. I have to power down and throw a little high or it will even end in a cut roll. I didn’t think I had a faster arm but ig I must. And I’m around 4,500 ft above sea level

Do the jury!

my seasoned bear stretches way out and comes back 2.5

I don't have a Stag, but I love my Saint. Your review on the River was good also. Love my River too. You make it look very easy lol. I subbed your channel.

Love my River but I only get about 225 feet. I'm older (61) and only been playing a year. Wish you had thrown some forehands with it. I throw RHBH and I really want to improve my forehand throw. Nice video. You make it look really easy getting out to 350. Wish I could do that!

Hi! Your content is really good - both the demos and the comments. Keep it up 😁👍 Best regards, Henric in Sweden

My benchmark for throwing putters (after grip/hand feel) is backhand turnover and flick approach shots. I found that if a putter feels okay in my grip when I'm throwing with power then most of them finish pretty close to the same distance, either a bit left, right, or straight. The make or break for me is when I'm throwing touchy turnovers and flicks on approach. Some discs definitely work better than others for these shots. Over a few years I've tried nearly every Trilogy putter that you have in this video. Much to my surprise the Judge has been the most consistent for me on approach, while getting really good distance driving. It also works decently well as an inside the circle putter. I guess there's a reason it's such a popular putter.

I've tried a lot of 7 speed discs, and the River is by far and away my favorite for anything but a headwind. Snapped out flat with power it will carve a subtle ess and float down with almost no fade, reaching amazing distances. I can flip one to flat off a gentle hyzer, or get a really long, pushing hyzer with a steeper angle. On anhyzer the River will just carve a beautiful glide to the right, floating to flat for extended distance. I found my first River lost in the woods off the side of a fairway, with no name and already a bit beat in. On a whim I tried it on the next hole, where it perfectly threaded a tight wooded line to slide up 15 feet from the basket for a birdie. Right there it bumped the Maverick out of my bag.

This is a beautiful course compared to what I've got to work with in nd. Looks very well kept. And solid arm man. I'm usually only good for one of 2 throws at each hole. Just picked up a couple new lucid ice plastics at the discount price. Raider and a trespass.

Any idea if the less stability for the Ice Orbit is true for the Evader as well? I’ve been looking to pick one up, and if it were slightly less stable it would be perfect

I was curious how fast the disc was throwing. Might want to invest in a radar tool for your videos.

Cool video and enjoyed the comparisons.

In a recent review from six sided discs, the lucid glimmer escape got like 50+feet more than the lucid. They were really surprised by that. I wonder how that one would compare with the Saint. Was your escape stamped as opto or opto glimmer? You said it has flakes in it, so I'm wondering if it's the same or different.

I recently got a zero soft Keystone as a second throwing putter and I’m loving it so far. It really wants to hold the angle you put it on and then just come to a dead stop without any weird ground play. I didn’t even think about using it from C2 but will try that next round. Nice review!

Great review. :)

I've got it made in the shade when I throw my Jade. 350' down wind

Tursas in premium plastic are all domey?? Love my base tursas and its flat... Would like a vip if it was flat top.

Regular truth vs claymore :)? Need some new reviews before the season ❤

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Any chance Beaver Branch is going to take a look at the new Lat 64 Brave? Would love to see that vs Maverick vs maul. I’m sure too flippy for your arm speed but you are good at powering down and showing how they fly for us slower arm speed dudes. I hear people saying it’s at least -2 turn but I don’t think it’s as flippy as the maul. Or it seems to fight back better anyway.

The Underworld is my favorite fairway driver for wooded courses. It effortlessly hyzer flips with minimal power. Perfect for 170’ - 250’ tunnels or narrow gaps, standstill shots, left to right backhands, etc. it won’t take much power without rolling but that’s what makes it so easy be accurate with it.

Bmo compare opto havoc to opto ice havoc. I use my opto as my distance roller just got an opto ice i swear it flys like a raider zero flip up bh or forehand so stable it seems to actually fly true to the -1, 3 in the opto ice. But the others its like -3 ,1 turn fade i was so astonished when i threw it

That was a very excellent review and really good camera work, setting in that the discs really showed well in their flights.

Hey brother just ordered a gold fuse with that dyemax of the little pixel guy and basket. Wish your discount code was still active 😂 wish me luck with it

Wish I could get myself a gold maul. Now I know why I can’t find them anywhere since you said the maul has been out of production for awhile

Hey big dawg, just had a pleasant surprise at a local shop with lat64 made disc kiosk. LAT64 dropped a fresh batch of zero medium classic Slammer, Spike, and Sinus! How about doing a vid on discs in that range of approach putters sometime. Or even comparing how the old Slammer is pretty much exactly the Discmania Tactic sans thumb track. Looking forward to your 2024 content regardless. Cheers.

You are living the dream! Just found out this is your home! Beautiful!

The Maul has sneaky distance when thrown on a hyzer flip line. The late turn you can get is so much fun. L64 have just restocked, which is awesome.

170g-159g=11g, not 20! barely a 6% difference. Could it be a placebo effect, influencing your throws?

Enjoyed your video.

You make excellent content my man. I appreciate that it leans more towards education and less entertainment. Format is perfect. Good job.

You should bag that opto disc loves you controlled it well making it predictable for bag

Happy holidays bmo

I was doing the same thing today. Trying to grab my first Ace of 2023😮. Merry Xmas! ⛄ !

Nice to see that course! Your videos are great, Happy Holidays!

as always a well detailed video. I just bought the stag, got the same flight on flat release. looking forward what else I cand do with this disc.

NOT the most deceiving flight numbers in Innova's staple. I would compare this, in that I have done this my-self to Innova Beast as that the flight path is close to the same only that The OPTO Saint definitely has more glide for about 260-280ft max distance drivers. So as a beginner this can be perfect straight disc driver with great glide. Reliable performance in all conditions. Recommend for any beginner as a good upgrade from using an Innova Beast. Great video!