Man you need to revisit this with a Striker. A Gold line and/or a Opto-Ice one (regular Opto isn't that similar for some reason) as it is really close to a Bear with a different hand feel.
Yesssss! Been waiting on this review! Im currently bagging both these molds love them. The saint pro almost feels like a os river. i have a orange vip ice bear and it is quite beefy very torque resistant for fh and bh both very dependable while still getting great distance
Thanks for the review. I bought a Grace recently and it's incredibly domey. It looks like the Saint Pro is similar in that regard. I'm personally not too big of a fan and prefer flatter discs.
Absolutely love the Bear. The vip ice are definitely flatter than the moonshine, prototype and the vip. The orange and red vip ice are the flattest of the bunch. The flight on all of them is great.
Interesting! My first Ice Bear review the disc seemed more stable than my second and or this review. (It couldn’t have been from use). KT Saint pro is a little tricky. Reminds me of a stable Escape. Thanks for the post!
I felt like the Bear was stable at first too. And I think I thought it was going to be less stable too. But, that stability is dependable. If you wanted less stable could go Escape, Stag, River or Saint (not pro).
@@BeaverBranch I got it because I was looking for something to fly straight or a slight turn and then fade hard at the end. Like my Votum, but faster. I may look into a Tesla. In the meantime, I'm just trying to throw my Votum harder. I do dearly love that Votum.
Man you need to revisit this with a Striker. A Gold line and/or a Opto-Ice one (regular Opto isn't that similar for some reason) as it is really close to a Bear with a different hand feel.
I REALLY want to get a couple Stikers! Hoping they become available in the US soon!
@@BeaverBranch you can find used ones, but new ones would obviously be easier to get in good condition 👌🏻
Yesssss! Been waiting on this review! Im currently bagging both these molds love them. The saint pro almost feels like a os river. i have a orange vip ice bear and it is quite beefy very torque resistant for fh and bh both very dependable while still getting great distance
Thanks for the review. I bought a Grace recently and it's incredibly domey. It looks like the Saint Pro is similar in that regard. I'm personally not too big of a fan and prefer flatter discs.
The VIP Ice Bear came out somewhat flatter. Or flatter than the VIP Moonshine Bears. The Saint Pro definitely has dome.
Dome = glide. Flatter is less glide and usually stable if the parting line is high(which it usually is when a disc is flat top)
Absolutely love the Bear. The vip ice are definitely flatter than the moonshine, prototype and the vip. The orange and red vip ice are the flattest of the bunch. The flight on all of them is great.
100% agree! Dependable and useful!
Nice review!
Thank you! Looking to compare the Grand Orbit Grace and the First Run Grace sometime in the next couple days! (Winter has compare/reviews on hold!)
@@BeaverBranch I hear that! We’ve been sticking to more gear reviews/comparisons through the winter.
Love the bear goes longer than i expect every time 😱
I agree you can put some power into it and get good distance!
So glad the Saint Pro is back in production. Even better it got the halo plastic treatment.
My vip ice bear is beefier, KT saint pro flippier than yours. Not nearly as similar.
Interesting! My first Ice Bear review the disc seemed more stable than my second and or this review. (It couldn’t have been from use). KT Saint pro is a little tricky. Reminds me of a stable Escape. Thanks for the post!
The Bear I have is crazy overstable. Doesn't fly at all how I expected
I felt like the Bear was stable at first too. And I think I thought it was going to be less stable too. But, that stability is dependable. If you wanted less stable could go Escape, Stag, River or Saint (not pro).
@@BeaverBranch I got it because I was looking for something to fly straight or a slight turn and then fade hard at the end. Like my Votum, but faster. I may look into a Tesla. In the meantime, I'm just trying to throw my Votum harder. I do dearly love that Votum.