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Yes, it's very nice and light but TBH I'm a cold sleeper too, and I often wear a puffy in the sleeping bag if the temperature falls below zero. I don't have a problem with this, as I have the puffy with me anyway. The newer Thermarest pads are lighter than mine.

@longsufferinghiker OK thanks. Can you remember where you purchased the quantum 350? Are they a UK based company? Thanks Tom

It’s made by Criterion. I got it from Ultralight Outdoor Gear; they’re brilliant.

@longsufferinghiker I've read a few reviews about the quantum 350. One said that when the mercury dropped to around zero, he started to feel abit cold and put some more clothes on. I'm wondering if this aligns with your experience? It is rated as -5 comfort. Only 350g of fill. I'm after a all rounder that can get me through abit of winter camping plus I'm generally a cold sleeper........I'm thinking maybe go up to the 450 quantum to be on the safe side. Still only 800g

I agree. Probably a safer option

Thanks! Glad you found it useful 🙂

Glad it was helpful!

Hi Tom. Hope your trip was good fun. The Falls of Glomach was a bit scary but not technically difficult. I think I had to turn to face the rock once while I clambered down. Mostly I was worried about slipping, so I concentrated on looking where I was stepping! But the alternative routes aren’t much fun either, and the Falls are spectacular and well worth seeing. The Scarp is a fabulous tent; I’m a bit jealous! Personally I hate Bothies; they are always damp and gloomy, and I don’t like to share the space; there’s always someone staying up late chatting and drinking, or snoring, or getting up early while I’m trying to sleep. So I prefer to sleep in my tent nearby. I did that at A’Chuil, Maol Bhuidhe, and Shenavall. I have honestly never had problems with blisters in my Trail Runners. I found a type that fit my feet well, and wear very good quality socks. I have Compeed plasters with me, just in case I need preventative measures if a ‘hot spot’ develops on a foot. I do put on medicated foot powder every day, but that’s to prevent too much odour! 😉.

@longsufferinghiker hi charles. Thanks for input re falls of glomach and trainers v boots. Tbh, I've had a love hate relationship with bothies. I used to think they were great but like I say I've never slept well in them . I actually think they are cold and unhygienic places. Great in an emergency but massively overused. I am warmer and sleep better in tent. Yes I'm looking forward to scarp arriving, looks a very good tent with very positive reviews. Fingers crossed 🤞

Thanks! Actually no, I don't use any extra stakes. In fact, one of the main benefits of my system is that you don't need any stakes for the inner tent because it shares the stakes with the outer tent. The inners guylines are connected to the outer guylines

@@longsufferinghiker There's something i don't understand... in the video at 6:09, you can see that you only put a stake for the corner of the inner tarp...

Ah, I see what you mean. Let me explain: In this video I pitch the tent much as it arrives from the factory. And the factory setting, as I understand it, is for 5 stakes to be used for the inner, plus the outer stakes. I followed this for this particular video, but I think it is unnecessary extra weight. So I also have a video explaining how I think the tent can be improved. In this case I attach the inner guylines to the same stakes as the outer guylines. This saves weight, makes pitching easier, and helps achieve a good pitch. Check out the video: ua-cam.com/video/G_jP3JjWHFU/v-deo.html

@@longsufferinghiker Hi, the package includes 9 stakes, so I imagine 5 are for securing both the outer and inner tents at a single point, 1 for the front guyline, and the other 3 for the 3 side tensioning guylines. The problem is that with 9 stakes, I can’t set it up as well as you do. The sides bend, it doesn’t form a perfect pyramid, the floor doesn’t stretch properly, and the bathtub edges stay loose. I suppose it’s just a matter of practice, but it’s not as simple as I thought, and it’s making me want to sell it.

Thanks! I hope that some of them work out well for you 🙂

ROFL That's got to be the funniest comment so far 😂

I sent resupply parcels to Shiel Bridge and Ullapool. But I sent too much. The ‘dry’ weight of my pack (exc food, gas, water) was around 9kg.

@longsufferinghiker OK. Any idea what it was with food gas ie fully loaded.....14kg?

The full breakdown of my 8.7kg pack weight is here: lighterpack.com/r/brviub The weight including food & gas would be around 10kg. Never as much as 14kg!! If your pack weights that much then somethings wrong. Reducing the weight will make a huge difference, especially because there's a lot of ascent & descent on the CWT. You don't need to carry much water; there are streams and lakes all over the place :-) If you do plenty of test & training trips then you'll be able to work out the optimum set up.

@longsufferinghiker thanks charles. Great to compare kit lists. As it happens I'm on a training mission the next few days. I'm heading to glenfinnan on the train and doing a thru hike to Inverie on knoydart!

@siraidanofmayo7678 wow that sounds fantastic. Have a wonderful time!!

Hi Tom. 1. Tent; the Lanshan 2 is certainly great and I would use it if I was going to do the CWT again. But I would choose the standard version, not the Pro version, because it means condensation is much less of an issue. That’s going to be important on a long walk in damp conditions; I had rain on 14 days. 2. Footwear. Yes, definitely go for trail runners not boots, and embrace the wet feet. And definitely not goretex ones; once they’re wet inside and out the goretex is useless and in fact dries slower. Similarly I would not use waterproof socks. Use the best merino wool socks you can; I had Darn Tough but these days I prefer Silverlight. They are comfortable and are warm even when wet. Plus they dry out pretty quickly. There are lots of stream crossings, so dry feet are impossible! 3. Time of year. I chose to start in early May because it offers the best chance of good weather without the risk of Midges. I have since done the Skye Trail and the Hebridean Way at the same time of year. Late September might mean worse weather. Everyone you ask will have different opinions, but these are my personal thoughts. The most important thing is to be prepared and do lots of training and practice walks to fine tune your setup. Do serious miles of ascent and descent training with a full pack; if you’re not physically ready then you won’t be able to enjoy the Trail!! Good luck

@@longsufferinghiker wow! That was a quick reply! Thank you for your input. How come the Lanshan 2 pro is more prone to condensation? Not enough ventilation? Is the standard just a mesh inner? Thanks for your footwear advice. You might have a point about April but I do love the Highlands in October. BTW where is a good place to buy the Lanshan? Definitely agree about training for it. Did you manage to enjoy it? Thanks . Tom

Oh and before I forget. Big question! How did the standard Lanshan 2 perform in windy or very strong winds? Also rain driven by strong winds.....did that get in? Thanks again. Very important to get this right. Did you bring a spare walking pole in case of breakage?

The Lanshan Pro is single skin. Condensation is inevitable in humid cool climates like Scotland, but it forms mostly on the flysheet, so the standard version with an inner makes life drier and easier. The Pro is slightly larger inside and made of different fabric, but dealing with condensation is a pain I can do without! Walking poles are much stronger than any tent poles can be, so that’s not a worry. pitching it is a knack, and it makes all the difference. I’ve made a specific video about how to do it; ua-cam.com/video/Pt-QUHMw2v0/v-deo.htmlsi=D04C8dErgOraINC2 The Lanshan can be set higher or lower according to the conditions, so in heavy rain or wind you can have a smaller gap under the flysheet. I’ve never had a problem with rain being driven in. You can see my various pitches with it in my other videos. I did upgrade my pegs to deal with soft ground and strong winds. There are several wise easy modifications that will make a big difference. Again I’ve done a video about these: ua-cam.com/video/b95uPpaorBo/v-deo.htmlsi=3L8ZrODHXCBNpcku then it will certainly be ok in strong winds. There’s nothing lighter, more spacious, or better value IMHO

I recommend buying from Colin Pollard; outdoorgearessentials.co.uk/

Yes

So I’m not the only one who prefers wild camping in winter, then!! 😁

​@longsufferinghiker your videos with the lanshan are excellent. I am waiting for mine to be delivered, can't wait to get out and start wild camping!

I hope you love it!!

Hi. The Vango is certainly an interesting alternative. I particularly like the extra space over a Lanshan 1 because it uses 2 poles. But I don’t understand why they don’t give it full doors on both sides. And it is significantly heavier, too. Personally I’d take a Lanshan 2 in preference to the Vango; similar weight, much bigger inside, and it has 2 identical vestibules. And slightly cheaper too 🙂

Thanks mate, it's really kind of you to say so. I like your channel too :-)

Thanks. That’s a great price; well spotted!!

Wow. Nice work!!

Oh my, well spotted!! 🙂 I hadn’t got around to doing that yet, so in the video they’re just looped together like the factory does. But Yes, I’m going to be adding the bungee loops because the 6 guylines will _always_ get tangled up otherwise. TBH I was planning on a video of mods for any lightweight tent, including that…

Thanks for your nice comments. If you use walking poles already then the Lanshan is best. It has more space and bigger vestibules. And the walking poles are always stronger than the flexible aluminium tent poles.

​@@longsufferinghiker Спасибо, да, когда хожу в походы, я использую палки для ходьбы. А когда путешествую на велосипеде, найти пару деревянных палок в нашей местности не проблема. Я сделал заказ, после получения буду следовать вашим модернизациям.

That's great. Good luck!

@@longsufferinghiker А можно полюбопытствовать, сколько вам лет? Я 1968 года рождения.

Thanks Phil; much appreciated :-)

Thanks Steve. I gave up on the OMM chest pod; it wasn't waterproof, which was a real nuisance because I use it for maps and phones etc etc. The new one is from Tread Lite gear. It is much better and very well made: www.treadlitegear.co.uk/Hill-And-High-Street-Chest-Pack---Multi-Carry-Bag Similar ones (without so many compartments) are available from Wild Sky Gear: www.wildskygear.co.uk/dcf-evade-waterproof-chestpack--6in1--51g-1590-p.asp

I would definitely start with the factory footprint; it’s relatively light and durable. To save weight you can make your own from Polycro. If anything, slightly smaller is better. If the footprint pokes out beyond the inner then it can collect rainwater, which partially defeats the object. Good luck!

@@longsufferinghiker Thank you for the insight sir! Love your vids 🙏🏻 Regards from Singapore

Thanks!! 🤩

Thanks mate. Sorry about the delay; bloomin’ summer holidays, family stuff, etc.

There will always be condensation if the weather conditions are cool and humid, no matter how many people are in the tent. But good ventilation can help to reduce it.

It’s well worth it! Yes; a shiny new Exos 58. The old one died about 1 week after I posted the 1000 mile review!

That’s great to hear!! 🙂

Aw thanks. I really appreciate you sharing that; it means a lot to have such nice comments.

The 3 season inner has always had an inverted T zip, but now the 4 season inner has one, too. Pleased to hear that you aren’t experiencing sagging on the inner; having the pole set high will be definitely helping.

Thanks! I started with a 3 metre length, which allowed for the knots and the return to the cleat, but still means that the peg is a good distance away from the tent

Glad it was helpful!

The short answer is no. It is usually nice and tight, but I also wrap the bungees around the pole once to give extra tension and keep them in place. I have hear of people replacing the bungees with thinker stronger ones, just in case.

@@longsufferinghiker Thank you

I agree. I'm also looking at winter rated sleeping mats like the Lighttour R7.5 Can I DM you?

As The Churchill Dog says… “Oh no no no no no” 🙂

@longsufferinghiker would you say it's a proper 2 man tent big enough to put 2 full size mats in?

It depends… The inner is 120cm wide. My Thermarest Xtherm is 64cm wide, so you couldn’t fit two side by side unless your pads are narrower. Having said that, there’s lots of headroom, and there’s two large vestibules.

Glad you liked it! 🙂

That was a great bargain!

Good question! But the floor of the Yunchuan is only 80cm wide, so I’m not sure how much bigger it really is. The tent has got a lot of negative comments, especially in comparison to the Xmid that it’s based on, but it is certainly an attractive price and I’m tempted to try it.

That’s a great suggestion. Why didn’t I think of that? 🙂

Lol. Don’t tell anyone! 🙂 Just like you, I have the Cloud Peak for the winter. The Lanshan can deal with most conditions but the extra interior space and the smaller gap between flysheet and ground makes the Cloud Peak preferable for bad weather. I just wish the inner had less mesh.

Aw, thanks. I’m really happy that the videos helped you. And it’s kind of you to let me know. I hope that you have many memorable nights in the tent 🙂

Thanks. I suggest starting with a 50cm length of bungee.

Exciting!! Hope you have a lot of great nights out in it 🙂

Thanks! Hope you like it and have many great nights out in it 🙂

Yes, it all adds up. The pegs especially. And I’ve found that keeping the tent dry also makes a big difference; my wet tent after being packed away in the rain weighed 400g more!

The ‘Pro’ version is single skin, and made of a slightly better material. + lighter + more interior space - more condensation inside - less versatile; can’t switch inners, or use the flysheet on it’s own, or split the inner & outer for packing and drying. The best choice will depend upon your height and the type of terrain and weather that you expect. I hope this helps!

Well you really don’t _have_ to do the modifications; they’re just ideas that might help to customise what’s already a good tent. I think the perfect tent doesn’t exist, and everyone has different needs and preferences, so it’s good to share ideas that might help others in a spirit of helpfulness and positivity

I leave the inner attached to the fly and pitch the Lanshan under a minute in stock configuration. I would get the Flames Creed 230 cm Plus version if I were you so you don't have to pull out the fabric to the max. And because it's under 1 kilo that day's riding becomes less hard. The pole should be 125-130 cm to get the inner nice and taut. Most people pitch it too low. The trick is to leave a really large gap at the front and set the pole at a slight angle. If there is lots of wind you can pitch it a bit lower. That is the thing about a single pole tent. It depends on the conditions how you want to pitch it. Than with a small 100x150 cm tarp from the loop on the top of the tent to a tree or something you can sit under it on a chair or picnic blanket. When I see people with low tunnel tents I feel sorry for them. Poor guys having to crawl like that. If you have one and we meet on a campsite I'll donate a couple of euro OK?

The Flames Creed is just another badge for the Lanshan 2, like Night Cat and 3F UL Gear. The 230cm version is single skin so, although it is longer and lighter, condensation is a big issue, especially in the UK. So I will stick with the 2 layer standard version. I totally agree about the critical importance of the pole height; it makes a huge difference and one of the great benefits of the Lanshan is that you can adjust the height to suit different conditions. Nice idea about the Tarp. But I never pitch amongst trees, especially if it's windy 💨😉

@@longsufferinghiker There is a Lanshan Plus version double wall with 230 cm inner.

From what I can see on Ali Express, the 2021 'Pro' (single skin) version has a 230cm long inner. The inner on the standard (double skin) version is 220cm long.

Good suggestion, thanks!! 🙂

😂 you are not alone! In fact, I would like to meet anyone who actually still uses the factory bag and hasn’t ditched it for a more practical stuff sac. How on earth they pack them is a mystery wrapped inside an enigma…

@@longsufferinghiker day 3: the lanshan has taken the kitchen, and making its way through the hall towards the door. i think it maybe be looking for the folding master in the distant lands. 😂 thanks though ill try and find a better sack.

😂 I see what you mean!!

Hi. Yes, I did the mod on all 4 corners. I find that it helps when the ground is uneven.

Thanks; I’m glad you found the video helpful 🙂 About ‘the knot’… I really wouldn’t worry about it, as the most common modification to the tent is to do away with the factory guyline setup with the infernal ‘rams head’ clip, and replace it with a standard guyline and door bungees. I detail this in my modifications video; Lanshan 1 backpacking tents - try these 16 modifications ua-cam.com/video/G_jP3JjWHFU/v-deo.html