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ThriveMind Gifted Coaching
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Lisa Natcharian, M.Ed., is a clever girl, curious crone, and solver of mysteries who now helps former gifted kids embrace their quirks, reclaim their self confidence, and unleash their genius. As a certified life coach, educator, and serial entrepreneur with 30+ years of experience, she specializes in support for intensely creative innovators and gifted adults seeking purpose.
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👪 FREE COMMUNITY
Join the Wayfinders FB Community
➡ groups/wayfindinggifted
🛠 DOWNLOADABLE TOOLKITS
FREE Discover Your Authentic Self guided journal
➡ thrivemindcoach.com/free-journal/
Overcome Impostor Syndrome toolkit
➡ thrivemindcoach.com/overcome-impostor-syndrome/
🔥 MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM
Transform your frustration into the success you always imagined with the Happily Clever After membership program
➡ thrivemindcoach.com/happily-clever-after-2/
👚 FUN MERCH
Celebrate giftedness with clever products on Etsy!
➡ thrivemindgifted.etsy.com
Realizing you're gifted late in life (and you're not broken!)
It's actually tricky to identify giftedness, so it's not surprising that many adults don't learn that they're gifted until later in life. When that happens, you can experience a roller coaster of emotion, from exhilaration that your struggles are finally validated, to relief that you're not broken after all, to grief over lost time. Here's how to handle each of those stages.
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FREE Gifted Challenges Playbook: Ten Surefire Solutions to Your Most Frustrating Hassles
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Transform your frustration into the success you always imagined with Happily Clever After
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👋 WHO AM I?
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Lisa Natcharian, M.Ed., is a clever girl, curious crone, and solver of mysteries who now helps former gifted kids embrace their quirks, reclaim their self confidence, and unleash their genius. As a certified life coach, educator, and serial entrepreneur with 30+ years of experience, she specializes in support for intensely creative innovators and gifted adults seeking purpose.
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00:00 - Intro
01:13 - Why are so many adults identified late in life
02:47 - Phase 1: Validation
04:03 - Phase 2: Clarity
06:26 - Phase 3: Relief
07:43 - Phase 4: Reframing
12:07 - Phase 5: Your New Identity
13:25 - Phase 6: Understanding Your Needs
14:12 - Phase 7: Grief at Lost Time
15:24 - Phase 8: Self Doubt
16:32 - Happily Clever After
#giftedness #formergiftedkid #giftedadult #giftedandtalented
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🛠 DOWNLOADABLE TOOLKITS
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FREE Gifted Challenges Playbook: Ten Surefire Solutions to Your Most Frustrating Hassles
➡ thrivemindcoach.com/free-playbook/
Transform your frustration into the success you always imagined with Happily Clever After
➡ thrivemindcoach.com/happily-clever-after-2/
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⭐️ CONNECT WITH ME
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🌍 Website - thrivemindcoach.com
👏 Instagram - / thrivemind_gifted_coaching
🔑 Facebook - / thrivemindcoach
🚀 LinkedIn - / thrivemind-gifted-coaching
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👋 WHO AM I?
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Lisa Natcharian, M.Ed., is a clever girl, curious crone, and solver of mysteries who now helps former gifted kids embrace their quirks, reclaim their self confidence, and unleash their genius. As a certified life coach, educator, and serial entrepreneur with 30+ years of experience, she specializes in support for intensely creative innovators and gifted adults seeking purpose.
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⌚️ TIMESTAMPS
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00:00 - Intro
01:13 - Why are so many adults identified late in life
02:47 - Phase 1: Validation
04:03 - Phase 2: Clarity
06:26 - Phase 3: Relief
07:43 - Phase 4: Reframing
12:07 - Phase 5: Your New Identity
13:25 - Phase 6: Understanding Your Needs
14:12 - Phase 7: Grief at Lost Time
15:24 - Phase 8: Self Doubt
16:32 - Happily Clever After
#giftedness #formergiftedkid #giftedadult #giftedandtalented
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I was diagnosed ADHD after the age of 40. But listening to you, I feel I fit the gifted category better. As well, a 4 of my children fall into at least one of these classifications
I was identified in 1973 at 7 years old. I was never told my I.Q. score. Psychologist decided it would damage my social development. That advice has given me a lifetime of pain and frustration. When i was 7 years old tests indicated that I was at a high school level. A wonderful teacher tried to get me moved to the ninth grade. School system said no and for a short time I ended up in a school for gifted children. Then back to public school. There I constructed a persona that could interact with the other children. The pain of rejection led me to bury my true self by hiding and camouflaging the "gift". After being "seen" by professionals who are gifted and called me out, I'm finally trying to become what I truly am. Hopefully, I will feel comfortable in my own skin and no longer experience alien syndrome. One day a new TV show brought me to tears. As it turns out the television show "Young Sheldon" was a comedy. Thank you for your work on this subject.
I wish I was gifted. I probably have ADHD.
Thanks for this ❤
Neurodivergent
please create more videos they’re really insightful and eye opening
thanks for your amazing videos Lisa we’re always want to hear more of you
What if you have a lot of interests, and you are always looking for overall connectedness in terms of your overall view of how the universe works? So you have a lot of interests, but you get less deep into it once you've connected it?
Sounds ADHD'ish to me lol
Dear God PLEASE use a closeup microphone. I’m intensely interested in what you’re saying and my volume is maxed. Your words deserve the gravitas of being heard loud and clear. :)
You could try headphones
@@Sarcasmarkus headphones were on. There’s too much ambient noise. Background is audio tech.
Not called "high functioning" any more. Now called "low support needs."
😆i was looking for this comment.
I'm gifted and ADHD. I suspect I'm autistic as well, but there's so much cross over that it's very difficult to be sure. Thank you for this video, it's very illuminating.
I was diagnosed with ADHD and gifted last year at 37 but I studied it's actually adhd and autism. I feel like my characteristics don't match that and I'm obsessed with figuring it out and finding a pattern. I feel like I can't figure out what kind of person I am because I don't follow patterns and that drives me so crazy. That's why I think it's autism because I shouldn't require myself to follow a pattern but I need it so desperately.
I find people finally understand what I’m saying when I tell them I operate like a border collie 😂
My son is gifted and he thrives in many ways but im always wondering if he needs support I am not providing.
Thats an inevitable part of being a parent, no parent can support all their child's needs as they grow up, trying to do that too much can create codependent relationships. People have to get their needs met from a community of people to thrive not just one or two.
Why do I identify with all 3 of these conditions?
Because she talked about a lot characteristics of all three and one or more characteristics of each are characteristics that you've identified as being characteristics of your experience of yourself that you identify with.
3:25 and piling on lots of activities that aren't challenging enough does not add up to a satisfactory challenge! (please tell me I'm not the only one who's lived this...)
Wow. Lisa in this one video, you succinctly hit the heart of what has been elusive, inarticulatable (a real word?!), invalidated, insatiable, and relentless for decades. Thank you!
I resonate with a lot of what you said in the video. Where I always feel disconnected listening to content about being gifted, is they're never really was any expectations put on me, it was more along the lines of he is smart so he will figure it out. Report cards filled with "just apply himself" I fell into underperforming so fast it wasn't funny.
I truly like this lady ❤ she’s genuine, positive and caring.
Glad I found this woman, I love everything about her!! Her demeanor, her presentation and knowledge are flawless. As an adhder I need you to grab my attention immediately and completely. ❤
Thanks for your kind words :)
At the end of the day, we are simply mutants. And that is the truth.
Mutant ninja turtles
@ why not? They have good souls
Are we using “gifted” here as a discrete term from the way it was used in schools in the 90s and early 00s? At that time it was a blanket term for kids who were “smart” in the ways that school measures, but having nothing to do with neurodivergence. Has it been categorically redefined now?
Divergence means to diverge, differ from or split off from whats more common, neuro meaning brain, so neurodivergent means a brain that differs from whats more common. High IQ is a different kind of Divergence because its not thought of as a disorder, but it does meet the definition of neurodivergent.
Me, staring hard at both my sons, who have ADHD diagnosis and are gifted. My oldest has been accepted into a gifted and talented program for high school. And my younger son has worked independently on his math to the point his is two grades above his peers, as well as being ahead in reading skills. I have little doubt that the younger one will be in the gifted and talented program as well. Now to wait on my youngest, who's only 15 months old.
The reason all these have been lumped as a spectrum disorder is because of their interrelatedness, overlapping, and degrees of manifestation of symptoms. To then revert to a more compartmentalised way of looking at each, both clarify and confuse the comprehension of the whole. On top of that, leaving out other symptoms and comobidities makes it easier for people not in the spectrum to understand but does not paint an accurate picture of what being in the spectrum really is.
The diagnostic criteria are actually fairly distinctive. The ADHD criteria are all about executive functioning issues, and the autism criteria are largely about issues in social reciprocity and comunication. There's a lot of overlap in people's subjective experiance of the two, and its not uncommon to have both, and even if a person only has one there are other features associated with both that aren't on the criteria that often overlap like sensory processing differences.
I'm 62. I was in gifted programs all through school, but I remember getting in trouble for talking too much and not paying attention in grade school. In high school, the trouble I got in was usually due to my stepping in and speaking up where I saw unfairness or injustice towards other people who weren't loud mouths like me. I was diagnosed years ago with bipolar disorder, and some of the symptoms of ADHD or autism I've always experienced were blamed on that/depression. So now I wonder if between having a bipolar diagnosis and my masking superpowers (I am a performer), what's ACTUALLY going on was passed over as irrelevant. All I know is I'd sure like an answer that will help me figure out how to cope with this annoying brain!
You can be both. It's called being twice exceptional, or 2E. Happens way more than people want to admit.
The outcome of the election was very disappointing. The level of ignorance in our electorate is shocking. I’ll leave it at that. 🙂
When she talked about Aspergers, I immediately thought of dr. House, lol
House is an astute observer of social cues and understands social norms well, but he chooses to ignore them. I think he's more an uber genius, and maybe little ADHD from the needing stimulation and risk taking behavior. He doesn't stick to social norms because he thinks they're stupid but he isn't confused by them like someone on the spectrum.
At 36 I was diagnosed with ADHD (earlier this year, so very recent) but your definition of GIFTED was what resonated with me the most. Hmmm 🤔
I think the current science doesn’t take into consideration the female experience of being highly socialized as infants and children which can affect how one copes with stress and having sensory overload. In addition, prior to Millenial parenting, we were told to essentially m, "suck it up", when having meltdowns, or sensory iverload, and therefore became experts at masking meltdowns, and other social awkwardness. By these definitions, I would be gifted, but on analysis of my behaviors as per autistic criteria, I experience but supress autistism. I do experience meltdowns, hate being interruption m, but was expected to get over it, and found ways to deny my own needs.
Well why not just all 3 for maximum fun?
A smart person understands, a gifted person gains insight into the subject.
I thought my giftedness was autism but now I'm learning it was actually giftedness this is very helpful.
All of the above. Throw in bipolar, early childhood trauma, and CPTSD
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I have every single issue with regulation and task initiation youve described here. In fact, other than being fairly literate regarding social interaction i have every single difficulty you discussed in this entire presentation. I attended gifted school from second grade onward and got my ADHD diagnosis in third grade, but as I've gotten older I think I'm probably on the Aspergers end of the Autism spectrum. Like, cool I basically have intellectual super powers but it is SO difficult for me to function within normal society, and I live in constant fear that my life will fall apart around me. Again. Thanks for sharing this, just feeling like I'm not the only person that has to deal with this is a comfort ❤
All 3 can coexist.
this is a fantastic video. so easy to listen to, too:) thankyou
Did you seriously just use trains as your example of autistic hyper focus? Good grief, folks this woman is deeply ableist and has no real understanding of ADHD or autism. Unbelievable and, despite neuro diagnoses she clearly has no inside info.
There is nothing contradicting between being gifted and being on the spectrum. On the contrary.
I’m both gifted and neurodivergent (ADHD type 2/ADD) This is a tiring combination, I hyper focus all the time on nerdy topics and I am both in a flow state and it’s like an addictive trance, and outside stimuli is damp and I can’t process it correctly so when someone tries to talk to me when I’m like them I usually try to let them know I’m having trouble switching or paying attention and literally can’t understand them Also being high achieving and having executive function and time perception issues just kills esteem I also have other conditions like anxiety depression, gender dysphoria disorder, and what I call “mild” chronic illness Also I overcompensate and mask so much but as I get older it gets harder, I literally regressed from academic and household stress at around 8 I have tried very hard in school constantly check behind myself and make tons of plans because I would forget things, people correlate this with OCD from the outside but it’s not OCD, it’s a specific mechanism to counteract ADHD symptoms I had to work so so so much harder to do the same or more I felt like I was at the bottom of the gifted kids and my overexertion closed the gap, idk why school was so hard when I have a high iq etc, but I’m not a math person I am very good at abstract reasoning, and analyzing rather than “logic” I am quite intellectual but lean towards humanitarian and philosophical fields, I’m also an INFJ and my MBTI reflects this, all in all a very very draining combination qwq I literally am at the point where dispute being high functioning I feel disabled and am scared of work even tho I have to try and don’t got it like that, but I literally feel disabled to the point of like needing to be taken care of which I don’t want, I like being independent 😭 Edit: I have a very curious mind in need of both mental and sensory stimulation/dopamine, so hyper focus feels almost like an addiction mixed with extreme curiosity, but I’m not addicted to anything rather it’s just a brain state I get into sometimes
Haha, no wonder I never really know what's up since I have all three and they all have the same issues in different ways. Every single thing that was mentioned I experience on a regular basis. Anyone have had any success in making life easier? I keep hearing Mindfulness meditation but I just can't get myself to even start. I hope someday it will get easier.
People don't understand ADHD when they say it's 'dopamine' seeking. That has absolutely nothing to do with what ADHD is. They seek STIMULATION. This can be something interesting, or it can be something pleasurable. Am I getting dopamine reading about cane frogs all night? No. My mind is engaged though, and that means that it's ramped up production of neurotransmitters. Do I also eat excessively because of ADHD, and the stimulation I get from it? Yes. But it doesn't mean I'm dopamine seeking, it just happens to be the easiest route to get that stimulation most of the time.
Dopamine is the brain chemical released from stimuation, its brain doctor language for the same thing. Serotonin is the big happy brain chemical, dopamine is the needing stimulation brain juice.
@Sarcasmarkus there's more involved than just dopamine seeking behavior. There's other neurotransmitters.
@@truckywuckyuwu yes 100% definitely. Dopamine is the one brain juice they've found a critical difference in with ADHD'ers. Just like serotonin is the one brain juice that depression has problems with but depression isn't being deficit in serotonin uptake inhibitors, and its far more than just their brain juices. Its a person's belief system, their self talk, their self care, diet, exercise, their biology and their environment. ADHD is a complex thing as well. Dopamine is just one of the critical elements on the biology side of it.
@@truckywuckyuwu @truckywuckyuwu yes 100% definitely. Dopamine is the one brain juice they've found a critical difference in with ADHD'ers. Just like serotonin is the one brain juice that depression has problems with but depression isn't being deficit in serotonin uptake inhibitors, and its far more than just their brain juices. Its a person's belief system, their self talk, their self care, diet, exercise, their biology and their environment. ADHD is a complex thing as well. Dopamine is just one of the critical elements on the biology side of it.
Absolutely amazing explanation of all. I definitely think I have all of these. Thank you Looking forward to learning how to use my gifts to create a life I can actually thrive in. So grateful for the amazing guidance here. 🤍
My theory. You can be gifted without autism. But you can't be subject matter expert level without some touch of tism allowing you to hyper focus for extended periods on the same subject for years. People with ADHD tend to have waves, they only go so deep before they turn for another topic. But we do get an advantage with pattern recognition which is essentially IQ. Autistic with self managed ADHD utilizing top down control. I'd like to add that there is a delay in verbal compared to the neurotypical. It's not a delay per se. We just learn how things operate before we ask for control. These videos are great for us who still like to learn about our quirks. No matter how well you fit in and hide it. There are occasional hiccups like needing a random shut down time. Which isn't typically accepted. But I'm a big boy, who trains MMA, I like to be calm and nice. Not frustrated and tired.
Good theory = good boy > keep working on your self, in time maybe change mma for yoga when mma becomes too much on your body.
My diagnosis process is finally coming to a formal conclusion, and the therapist is already confident that I fall within those 5%. This video provides such a clear perspective on all three conditions! Thank you so much for helping me gain a deeper understanding of myself. I’m seeking every bit of guidance I can get, and this video was a real gift.
I’ve technically had four ASD diagnoses-two from the same psychiatrist ten years apart and two from different psychologists. I didn’t get a plaque to hang on the wall, and I actually don’t even believe in these classifications. I am sensory tuned and pattern focused. I can say I am gifted because I cannot stop doing things that make me better. I was put in art class at age 5 because I was seen as gifted. But the reality is that I was just stuck in a world. Also, over years, when you do the same thing over and over again, you get good. I am 52 and a Senior artist in game development, where you find a lot of “gifted” people. I don’t believe in “gifted”… I believe in limited interest and dopamine seeking from that thing you are passionate about. A lot of people change interests, but I get good at things because I am addicted to doing the same things, like drawing turned into tech drawing, and 3D modeling, and concept art, and AI art, and coding, and sculpting, and music, and classical guitar, and music theory, and on and on and on. Etc. Right now, my girlfriend is watching Netflix, and I am watching a documentary on gable roof truss evolution over time and how it shaped the American McMansion. This followed on from hundreds of hours on building codes and concreting. I also just transposed a stack of Christmas carols into keys for guitar techniques and my voice range. My Ded Dead Redemption Character is level 300 and I have played about 1600 hours online and wouldn’t say I am bored yet although I switched to Diablo 5. So yeah, I am not sure I believe in gifted. Addicted to specific interests over sustained time maybe.
Autistic difficulty with routine and predictability is frustrated burn out at doing it wrong. They are conservative and need to learn detechment of short term priorities
I wish you could help me figure out what’s going on with me
You're having a human experience. Take it one day at a time and give yourself some grace. ❤✌️
I wish I could know what’s happening and what my diagnosis really is! I don’t trust or believe in process anymore!