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As someone who grew up in the Mormon/LDS church I can tell you that his beliefs and the way he preaches in the book is not how most members treat these things. He's a special kind of weirdo.

You can also point to a lot of this, especially the light binding and sun/darkstone and point to where he stole everything from Brandon Sanderson... without understanding why Brandon us actually good. Including characters names and roles

The having no memory and learning about himself that way would also just make the title of the damn thing make more sense. Js Oh... and "age of con is 14"... but he's the emperor. He chose that

Shadiversity's power fantasy is to grape hundreds of young girls... but he knows that's supposed to be bad so attempts to make his fantasy "self aware"

16:21 my car is red and I know why ❤

Holy shit she read it in 14h? loll it took me like over 25h... To my defense english isnt my main language 😅

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People hating on this book years after it has been released is one of my new favorite booktube niches

I am conservative and right leaning, but I absolutely hate everything Shad has produced and think every take he has is deranged. And this weirdo book he made kind of illustrates that perfectly.

Hmmm 2000 years later people still have odd rituals... so a battle 300 years later to pick a leader is fine.

This William is THE William??? OH EM GEE!!!

“His legs were grotesque in their muscularity, his flaccid penis dripping between them.” Was possibly the grossest line of text I have ever read.

It might be a stretch but the ammount of sex and pedofelia not only in this book but also in his old DnD stuff gives me a sneaking suspicion that it's him venting his dark mind

Girl not you flipping out about him misremembering names and then you saying Henry Gold (Gregory Gold) and Daniel Davies (either Daniel Coleridge or Donald Davies) and Jonathan Darby (Derby) 😂

I would recommend Nuestra parte de noche / Our share of the night by Mariana Enriquez; I'm currently a little over 60% but this discussion and some of the comments made me think of it! I really enjoyed Gods of Jade and Shadow by Moreno-Garcia, so I'll probably still check out Mexican Gothic xD Some day...

I only watch yall on 2x speed and when it reverts back to 1x it feels like you're drunk 😂

22:25 Judge Dredd your describing Judge Dredd

It was just the eugenics that did me in. Couldnt be plain racism, had to be extra colorful racism! The moment i read it I just skimmed the rest hoping it would pick up but nope. And all the gothic theming fell short because its all coming back to genes and worth, blah blah blah.

The only book I read of Sanderson is Elantris. And while I like the bones of it; the actual text is unnecessarily wordy. What can be said in a sentence, takes at least 3 paragraphs.

Returning to this book through this podcast has reminded me of just how much I *adore* this book. But on the subject of the ending-- I do agree that it feels long but I don't think it's unresolved without reason. Piranesi's reintegration in my mind doesn't get resolved because it's something that he as a character (or three) will never be able to resolve. He will never be without Piranesi, without Matthew, without the House so he can't truly be apart of reality either. Much like how that third self will never be a Child of the House because he wasn't born of it, only born of it's absence, the third self can never be truly of reality, because he is both the House and it's absence, reality, and it's absence. Just in the same way Piranesi would never be able to fully return to the House and be the way he was before, the third is stuck between the two worlds in a way that no one else is and never will be again with the exception of Raphael who, while not experiencing it herself, is able to get as close to understanding as she can through Piranesi.

If you think this book is obsessed with sex you should listen to female comedians, they suck

It would be interesting to hear your views on 'Starling House' by Alix E Harrow, another fairly recent gothic romance type book about a creepy house. Personally I enjoyed it a lot, but I DNFed 'Mexican Gothic'.

I still advise Will to read “Bimbos of the Death Sun”. Would be extremely interesting what he'd make of that title. The book is awesome, BTW.

Hey, can you folks roast IN THE VALLEY by Autumn E. Knight? I'm the author, and I love your channel. I'd love to see my book roasted; I promise I have a thick skin and wouldn't get upset. In fact, the reader feedback would mean the absolute world to me.

After the comment about "why did they not send a man to investigate this creepy family situation," i just thought - why didn't the author just set it as the protagonist having to investigate a suspicious nunnery/convent? 1) character - would explain why a girl is sent. Boys not allowed. Also potential for girl to display agency on the choice. 2) visual - a family and protagonist who derives their fortune from making bright, colorful textiles must swap it out for drab black and white. 3) theme - the idea of culture vs religion, individually vs group think, colonial dominance. even though both the family and the nuns practice catholicism, the nuns imposition of their house, their rules = colonial themes, because their house is on your land, but your land doesn't matter. 4) come on, a nun monastery in 1930s Mexico, with a british, french, belgian, whatever inspired architecture - where the people dress alike, walk alike, and move about in black, murmuring prayers under big habits... that is ripe for creepiness. Just my two cents. I wonder why the author didn't do that. The nuns could be a sect / cult, and not even catholic so the author could not go so far to criticize the church.

To me this book is so much better than spinning silver. Im picky about first person pov, much less like 6 first person povs or whatever it was. Its absurd. I think Maria would like daughter of the forest

Whenever someone describes Pratchett's works as 'broad humour' I know they have missed a shit load of historical, philosophy and literature references, puns, puns within puns, all the fun language play. They are like cryptic crossword puzzles in novel form.

Sounds like it should be called "Mushroom Gothic" instead.😂

HOW, after three years, are we still letting Will get away with saying "prose" like it's plural?

I don't know I would have to read the book for myself to see if I agree with these people. What bothers me about this review is that it seems to have this idea that a story from non-white perspective should be solely about racial, cultural, or colonial issues in order for that story to have merit. I'm seeing this trend even in progressive circles, where focused representation is seen as the only legitimate representation for non-white characters. And I have to be honest, the book community does have bad reputation on how they treat authors of color who don't conform to rigid standards, Amélie Wen Zhao's Blood Heir is textbook example of author of color being stifled by the book community.

6:16 wtf? She says the surname perfectly, heck since she hyphenates it maria's saying of moreno-garcia is the correct way rather than the truncated moreno memillo used. Edit: 10:11 it's not an hacienda (ie a plantation or ranch manor) tho. Nor is it spanish. She is pretty clear what the place is & who it is built by; because it is based on real towns in the mountain forest region of mexico. The choice of site & mood kinda riffs on the other half of the author's nationality, the canadian bit. But the places are mexico, & your expectations of what "mexico" is is super racist actually! 10:44 read about the Porfiriato at the very least; before making snide comments about european imposition on mexico post independence. & like yeah her book sorta fails you if you read it & you arent left wanting to look into some of the details if the setting but being sarcastic to the point of sanctimony of "the british very famously subjugated mexico" is gross. But like "Taboada" is a spanish surname; the sort of textiles they sell are european style textiles; the place where she learns about cochineal is in fact an Hacienda. There are themes. There are themes to why the dad sends just a woman; themes about the relationship to the usa & europe. Will is being actually really reductive about a country he isnt in or know anything about.

First of all, if you have not seen the SEMINAL "emos contra punks mas hare krishnas" (lit: emos versus punks plus hare krishnas) you simply must Second: the book is very much akin to Del Toro's Crimson Peak Third: Silvia Moreno's name has no rolled r's (otherwise it'd be Morreno) the r is "rolled" because it can be sustained. it sounds a bit like an engine? I know a joke is meant but also, americans do do that joke a lot to the point it has peculiar feel But also: if you know the rolled r is the double r why would you deliberately mispronounce the author's name? What's the joke there? Or if you thought the short r is the rolled r... the joke is you got it wrong? I dont want to be acerbic but i really dont get why bring the rolled r up

It's a bit weird that the name Doyle is Irish, not English or even British... I can't tell if it's deliberate f-you to Europe or a lazy choice.

This could have been a much better book if it had cut the romance and focused on the relationship between Noemi and Catalina, like them vs the Doyle family. The whole healthy relationship she's trying to build clashes with the gothic horror atmosphere she wanted, it's too subdued and... well, normal. Gothic in books and film is mostly vibes, there's no clear definition for it, but no part of it ever inspires "healthy romance" imo. And yes, she did Francis so dirty. She made him the least Gothic love interest I could ever imagine.

I recommend "Pedro Páramo" by Juan Rulfo. Or the Netflix series based on the book. A true classic and true Mexican gothic. "Have you ever heard the dead moan?"

1:19:34 This is a great point and I think is the main problem, besides Shad’s Mormon values. With killing it is possible to do it accidentally, not that Daylen ever did, while it is practically impossible to accidentally… r*** someone. Killing is bad, but it should not be held to the same standard as “that”. Especially, when some of Daylen’s victims were children!🤢🤮

So funny @1:07:06

57:00 i think the commenting on weight was meant to be another wish fulfillment fantasy, "see? He doesn't want you to be skinny, he wants you to be happy!" while ignoring that 1) everyone is still slim af anyway and 2) it's still commenting about someone's body and trying to control their food intake, even if it's in the opposite direction

I feel like I would enjoy this book. The funny thing is that I avoid watching y’all’s good review videos (sorry)because I don’t want to spoil myself on good books, but surprisingly this video made me want to read from this author. I think I would’ve liked Mexican gothic to some extent

Have, but have not yet read, this newest book to go through the UTT shredder, so I had to stop watching after a while. Spoilers. But, if you take recommendations for books to hate on, have a go at The Starless Sea by Erin Morgenstern because, you know, ew...

Omfg Wills comment about connection the Mayan gods to Catholicism could actually be so interesting, like gothic horror through human sacrifice and cannibalism but about Jesus and simultaneously Christians alienating indigenous people and traditions by accusing them of those things. That could have been so interesting and good

I think it is common to misunderstand gothic literature as being about a set of tropes leading to a certain conclusion, whereas what universally unites the works we label as "gothic" all examine the ways in which the past influences and almost assaults the present. And in so so so so so many way Mexican Gothic is about almost everything except how the main characters are caught in the currents of the past, because neither Francis nor Noemi has played an active or integral role in the Doyles past. And upon closer inspection, the Doyles past is more of a plot device that part of any themes the book wants to examine, and all scrutiny is on the shallow side.

Maria, have you seen the Irish classic The Grabbers in your bad movie watches? I'm not sure if it's a bit too written by Ireland for Ireland but it's amazing

ThHow did the goths cane from europe to mexico

Not sure if its helpful after the fact but your Shadows of the conqueror video was my intro to you. I wanted to see different peoples opinions. (i haven't read it btw its a morbid curiosity thing)

I'm not doing this to myself. I'll skip this one (but will watch the next one, promise). Anyway, happy holidays guys! (If you celebrate)

It's interesting that the book mentions revolution/war because that would have been an actual way to bring other Europeans into the story since The Second Mexican Empire was promoted by France and have as monarch Austrian Archduke Maximilian of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine, who had ancestral ties to the rulers of colonial Mexico. The Doyle family (with a different last name) could have been a remnant of the period.

Oh no, I know Will didn't like this book so I'm disappointed that this was the book ye chose to read from her 😭 I think it would've been interesting for ye to have read a different book from her's like Gods of Jade and Shadow 🤧

As an aspiring writer your videos really helpful to me. My high school doesn’t have that many resources for creative writing so your videos are something I rely on. I would like to thank you three for getting me through this year and helping foster my creativity. Thank you to Maria for your great plot summaries and very witty cometary. Thank you too William for helping me read between the lines and see what does and doesn’t work for the certain books. And thank you Katie for helping deepen my appreciation for proper grammar. Thank you all so much doing this. I hope you all have a happy new year!