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The League of Biblical Enthusiasts
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Приєднався 15 лис 2009
This channel features discussions about a wide range of Biblical and theological issues. We talk about Biblical archaeology, Bible translations, New Testament, Jesus and Gospel studies, interesting books and authors, biblical interpretation, past and current issues, personalities, and church history.
Chester Beatty and his fabulous collection of early New Testament papyri codices
Explore the fascinating life and contributions of Sir Alfred Chester Beatty, a pioneering collector of ancient manuscripts. In this video, we delve into his invaluable collection of early New Testament papyri codices-P45, P46, and P47. Learn about their historical and textual significance, how they have shaped modern New Testament textual criticism, and their impact on contemporary Bible translation efforts. Whether you're a scholar, a student, or simply curious about biblical history, this video offers an insightful look into one of the most important manuscript collections in Christian history.
Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more content on ancient biblical manuscripts!
For further study:
Wikipedia on Sir Alfred Chester Beatty: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Chester_Beatty
Wikipedia on Sir Alfred Chester Beatty papyri collection: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Beatty_Papyri
Wikipedia on p45 (Gospels and Acts): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_45
Wikipedia on p46 (Paul's letters and Hebrews): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_46
Wikipedia on p47: (Revelation)
Website for the Chester Beatty Collection: chesterbeatty.ie/
View the Beatty collection online: viewer.cbl.ie/viewer/index/
View the collection of digitized manuscripts at the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts website: www.csntm.org/
View the images of p45 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P45
View the images of p46 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P46
View the images of p46 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P47
Brent Nongbri's book, God's Library (discusses the Beatty collection): tinyurl.com/5n6jj34j
Sir Frederick Kenyon's The Chester Beatty Biblical Papyri (Vol 1): tinyurl.com/mrx4ycmv
The Chester Beatty UA-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@ChesterBeattyDublin
#Chester Beatty Library
#Sir Alfred Chester Beatty
#New Testament manuscripts
#biblicalmanuscripts
#Papyrus 45
#ancienttexts
#Papyrus 47
#Ancient Christian texts
#Codex Beatty
#Papyri collection
#Early Christianity
#Biblical archaeology
#Ancient Greek manuscripts
#Manuscripts of the New Testament
#Biblical textual history
#Gospel papyri
#Christian manuscript studies
#Early Church writings
#Biblical Manuscripts
#New Testament Manuscripts
#Early Christian Texts
#Papyri Collection
#Early New Testament History
#Biblical Text Preservation
#Ancient Manuscripts
#History of the Bible
#Chester Beatty Papyri
#Pauline Epistles Manuscripts
#Gospel Manuscripts
#Early Church Writings
Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more content on ancient biblical manuscripts!
For further study:
Wikipedia on Sir Alfred Chester Beatty: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Chester_Beatty
Wikipedia on Sir Alfred Chester Beatty papyri collection: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Beatty_Papyri
Wikipedia on p45 (Gospels and Acts): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_45
Wikipedia on p46 (Paul's letters and Hebrews): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_46
Wikipedia on p47: (Revelation)
Website for the Chester Beatty Collection: chesterbeatty.ie/
View the Beatty collection online: viewer.cbl.ie/viewer/index/
View the collection of digitized manuscripts at the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts website: www.csntm.org/
View the images of p45 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P45
View the images of p46 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P46
View the images of p46 at the CSNTM website: manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/Group/GA_P47
Brent Nongbri's book, God's Library (discusses the Beatty collection): tinyurl.com/5n6jj34j
Sir Frederick Kenyon's The Chester Beatty Biblical Papyri (Vol 1): tinyurl.com/mrx4ycmv
The Chester Beatty UA-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@ChesterBeattyDublin
#Chester Beatty Library
#Sir Alfred Chester Beatty
#New Testament manuscripts
#biblicalmanuscripts
#Papyrus 45
#ancienttexts
#Papyrus 47
#Ancient Christian texts
#Codex Beatty
#Papyri collection
#Early Christianity
#Biblical archaeology
#Ancient Greek manuscripts
#Manuscripts of the New Testament
#Biblical textual history
#Gospel papyri
#Christian manuscript studies
#Early Church writings
#Biblical Manuscripts
#New Testament Manuscripts
#Early Christian Texts
#Papyri Collection
#Early New Testament History
#Biblical Text Preservation
#Ancient Manuscripts
#History of the Bible
#Chester Beatty Papyri
#Pauline Epistles Manuscripts
#Gospel Manuscripts
#Early Church Writings
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My Amazing Trip NYC to View Ancient Biblical Manuscripts
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My Amazing Trip NYC to View Ancient Biblical Manuscripts shows my visit to the Jewish Theological Seminary Reading Room, The Met and the Morgan Library Reading Room. For further research: Friedberg Geniza Project (where you can view Geniza fragments online. Register for a better experience): tinyurl.com/mut3k4kb Jewish Theological Seminary in NYC: www.jtsa.edu/ The Metropolitan Museum in NYC: w...
Ancient Manuscript Discoveries At Oxyrhynchus
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We discuss the amazing papyri discoveries found in Egypt from 1896-1908 by Grenfell and Hunt. Wikipedia, The Oxyrhynchus Papyri: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyrhynchus_Papyri (this article covers a wealth of information - you could spend all week with the links for research) The Earliest NT Manuscripts (includes p52): biblearchaeologyreport.com/2019/02/15/the-earliest-new-testament-manuscripts/ An e...
GrenfellAndHunt
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In this episode we discuss the life and careers of BP Grenfell and Arthur S. Hunt, manuscript hunters who brought to light the vast trove of ancient Greek manuscripts found at Oxyrhynchus, Egypt. Wikipedia article on Grenfell: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Pyne_Grenfell Wikipedia article on Hunt: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Surridge_Hunt Find a Grave for Grenfell: www.findagrave.com/memorial/8...
James Rendel Harris: Biblical Manuscript Hunter
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This episode discusses the life and career of James Rendel Harris, who made many manuscript discoveries in the field of New Testament and early Christianity, including the Apology of Aristides and the Odes of Solomon. Resources for further research: Wikipedia article on JR Harris: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Rendel_Harris James Rendel Harris: a Bible scholar on a quest for manuscripts, an article ...
The Cairo Geniza
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We cover the story of Solom Schechter, his life, connection to the Sisters of Sinai, and his work in the Cairo Geniza. General articles: Wikipedia on Solomon Schechter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Schechter On the Cairo Geniza: www.cam.ac.uk/stories/discarded-history-treasures-of-the-cairo-genizah UA-cam video on Highlights of the Cairo Geniza: geniza.princeton.edu/jtsviewer/ Wikipedia on the...
Solomon Schechter and the Sisters of Sinai
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The Sisters of Sinai made other discoveries besides the Syriac palimpsest. We describe them as well as their relationship with Solomon Schechter, who visited the Ben Ezra synagogue in Cairo and made an outstanding discovery. Wikipedia on the Sisters of Sinai: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Smith_Lewis_and_Margaret_Dunlop_Gibson#Academic_work Wikipedia on the Syriac Sinaiticus: en.wikipedia.org/wik...
The Sisters of Sinai 1 of 2
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The Sisters of Sinai travel to St. Catherine's Monastery and find an ancient Syriac manuscript of the gospels. Why and how they did this is the focus of this episode. Wikipedia on the Sisters of Sinai: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Smith_Lewis_and_Margaret_Dunlop_Gibson#Academic_work Wikipedia on the Syriac Sinaiticus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Sinaiticus The Sinai Palimpsests Research Site (n...
Sinaiticus: The Manuscript Described
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In this episode we describe the physical and textual characteristics of Codex Sinaiticus found by Constantine Tischendorf in the Monastery of St. Catherine. This Biblical manuscript has been dated to the 4th century AD and contains a near complete copy of the entire Bible, plus two additional texts: The Letter of Barnabas and The Shepherd of Hermas. Resources for further study: Wikipedia on Tis...
Tischendorf and Sinaiticus
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We discuss how Tischendorf recognized the importance of the Codex he found at the monastery of St. Catherine in the Sinai desert. We trace its history from the monastery to Russia and then its sale to the British Museum in 1933. Wikipedia on Tischendorf: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_von_Tischendorf Stanley Porter's work on Tischendorf: tinyurl.com/3h8znuah James Bentley's book on Tischendor...
Tischendorf Early Career
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This video deals with the early life and academic career of Constantine Tischendorf. We discuss his education, marriage, motivation for his work and early success with Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus. Next week we will take a look at his discovery of Codex Sinaiticus and its story from Mt. Sinai to Russia and to England. John Reumann, The Romance of Bible Scripts and Scholars: tinyurl.com/yfvmbffe Wi...
Curzon searches for New Testament manuscripts at Mt Athos in Greece
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Curzon searches for New Testament manuscripts at Mt Athos in Greece
Richmond Lattimore and his New Testament
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Richmond Lattimore and his New Testament
1946 The Movie and the RSV (mis)translation? "homosexuals" in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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1946 The Movie and the RSV (mis)translation? "homosexuals" in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
The Great RSV Controversy (Episode 1 of 2)
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The Great RSV Controversy (Episode 1 of 2)
Kenneth Taylor and The Living Bible
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Kenneth Taylor and The Living Bible
Are Literal Translations Really Literal?
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Are Literal Translations Really Literal?
A longer version of this video that features the photographs of the objects in the museum will go live this Sunday, January 12th at 9:00AM EST. Check back then and tune into the League of Biblical Enthusiasts. Hope you enjoy it.
NLT does mess up in Genesis 3:16. Just be aware.
What’s the problem with the NLT here?
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So interesting and fascinating this series about manuscripts hunter, doing a great job here, thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was visiting Dublin a few years back, and was just touring around and literally stumbled into the museum with the Chester Beatty exhibit while looking for a public toilet 😂 So the family and I spent the rest of the day there at the museum and especially looking at all the manuscripts they had on display. Fascinating collection.
That’s amazing! Bucket list for me. Hoping you enjoy the channel. Happy New Year
@@g0thamite enjoying it very much, I see I missed a few of your most recent vids but looking forward to watching them
Welcome to the new episode and thanks for watching and subscribing! See the playlist for "Manuscript Hunters" here: tinyurl.com/45dyxdzv
I wish the thumbnail didn’t have the devil on it. Might make some think there is something wrong with the NLT and not even listen to the video. Or make bad assumptions.
I would be curious to see you compare the NLT and the NIV. My understanding is they are both intended to be more readable, but I’m not sure what the differences are.
The NLT is more “free” in its rendering while the NIV is more constrained or conservative. Some would say that the NLT was more interpretative than literal.
NLT also has some excellent study Bibles. The Filament App enables ones, the Illustrated Study Bible, and the Chronological Study Bible.
Yes, very good point.
Thank you for such an in depth review 🙏 I really appreciate your channel.
Thank you so much! I am working hard to make it both educational and enjoyable. More to come soon
Thank you
You are quite welcome. I hope you are enjoying the content. Happy New Year!
Regarding single person Bible translations: 1. I think the Lattimore New Testament (NT) is a fine formal equivalence translation. I find Lattimore to be superior to, say, David Bentley Hart, even though Hart has his moments, viz., there are some stunningly beautiful as well as compelling and commanding passages in Hart that are well worth reading and savoring. Yet, all told, Hart is quite idiosyncratic, which isn't ipso facto bad, but arguably Hart tries too hard at the end of the day. By contrast, Lattimore is a more conservative translation compared to Hart and compared to others like Moffat and Knox. However each of these have a stylistic flair that's not in Lattimore. Overall Lattimore is a reliable, readable, and literary formal equivalence translation. 2. For single person translators in the functional equivalence vein, translating for the people, as it were, less so scholars, there have been a plethora. Recently Sarah Ruden and NT Wright come to mind. In the past, a couple of notable translations are the ones by FF Bruce and JB Phillips. In fact, I think Phillips is the best of the single person functional equivalence translations in terms of readability (clarity and naturalness) as well as literary style in the ordinary. One might wish to throw in Kenneth Taylor and The Living Bible - not to be confused with the more academically sound and contemporary NLT which is an excellent translation given its translation philosophy - but I think Taylor's original TLB is significantly closer to paraphrase than translation. Eugene Peterson's The Message is certainly colorful and noteworthy as well, but less reliable, edging closer to cultural commentary than translation proper in my view. 3. There have also been single person OT translations, especially by Jewish scholars. I find the most intriguing translation with the most potential for serious study is Robert Alter's Hebrew Bible. And Alter's Hebrew Bible is a sublime literary achievement to boot. I think Alter's Hebrew Bible coupled with Lattimore's NT would make for a fascinating Bible translation.
Very good points. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for listening to the channel. I hope it’s helpful. God bless and a Happy New Year!
Great job. Thanks for the Virtual Vacation.
You bet! Thanks
Thank you for this. I enjoyed the bio on Stern as well as the balanced critique.
Thank you very much for your kind comments. I’m glad you enjoyed it
Glad you had an edifying pilgrimage. Looking forward to your presentation.
@@kultus I think it’s rather bland but thought I’d give it a try for the channel
@@g0thamite In a world of hype and self-importance, I'll take bland. Some call it humility!
Tomorrow, Saturday, December 20th, 1pm EST I will air a 17-minute video of my recent trip to NYC to visit the Jewish Theological Seminary, the Met and the Morgan Library and Museum. I was admitted to the Reading Room of the JTS and the Morgan to view some ancient Biblical manuscripts. Here is a short teaser. Hope you enjoy the full feature tomorrow.
I know this is a different style of video than I usually post but since it was on topic to our current series on Manuscript Hunters, I thought it worthwhile. Please let me know if you liked the change of pace and if I should upload another one like it in the future. I make trips to NYC several times a year and have visited Israel, Rome, Pompeii, Herculaneum, Capri and have many pictures from those trips that reference Biblical sites and stories. If you would like to see pictures from those places, let me know in the comments. Here's a link to our current playlist for Manuscript Hunters: ua-cam.com/video/BLKAsUsCB6U/v-deo.html
I really liked the virtual trip video. Usually when I see manuscripts, I don't think of them as having a physical home. It is helpful to associate them with an actual library or museum. And yes, absolutely, if you have pictures from all those places, I strongly encourage you to share them!
This is an excellent series!
Thank you! I appreciate that. Much more coming soon. Please share with your friends.
I’m just getting into the NLT after shying away from it for a long time. I should have turned to this so much earlier! I often use this to clarify what I read in the NASB. I particularly love the usage of modern weights, measures, and dates. Thank you for a well-explained and cogent summary of the NLT.
Thanks for your kind comments. I agree with you!
AI is getting better at congregating me with my alikes
I learned about these two papyrus diggers/men today while listening to linguists debate the Bible while I’m researching Mormon history and its authentic ( or not) origins. So I’m so blessed to be finding your channel!!! I’m a hermit researcher who is following my curiosity down a rabbit hole…. Or maybe even a worm hole into the past. So Is this massive excavation of papyrus you cited, a direct source of Joseph Smith and his papyrus that he then mistranslated into the ‘Book of Abraham’ and then created the whole Mormon religion? Joseph Smith is known to have bought Egyptian papyrus from a man in Ohio who had many Egyptian papyrus and other loot. To then take what he had learned within the Freemasonry fraternity and create his own translation of the papyrus into A Book written and authored by the actual real man Abraham of the Bible… that is the claim! Years later after the papyrus and its characters/pictograms/hieroglyphics( excuse my ignorance) that Joseph Smith had were actually transcribed by many Egyptian scholars , it was revealed that the papyrus writings were only basic logs of funerals and other basic life events but absolutely nothing about Abraham, the name was absent and nothing similar to Joseph Smiths translations and interpretations. Subscribed and will be watching and following your interesting work! Sorry about the typos etc… I’m writing this by iPhone and not computer keyboard. God bless !
Thanks for your kind words. I’m sure that Joseph Smith did Not acquire papyri from the Grenfell and Hunt expedition as it took place some 50 years after Smith died. I am not aware of his earlier purchases but if you find out more information please let me know. God bless.
@ thank you for the important date that answers my question about any direct pathway connections of remnants of that massive excavation finding its way into the hands of Joseph Smith. The whole of the Mormon religion is no longer a religious mystery but an intellectual curiosity…..being based on the papyrus Joseph Smith acquired from a traveling seller of Egyptian artifacts and to add to the mythology…. gold plates that were found by JS and transcribed into the rest of the religious traditions…. but then the gold plates ( by the’ first hand description’ 6x8x6 but if solid gold would weigh 200 lbs or more) were taken away by Moroni the Angel. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge … it’s very interesting and appreciated! God bless 🙏🏻🤓
@@g0thamite btw… your music should be put to a soundtrack for a proper and scholarly documentary if it’s not already… God bless 🙏🏻 🎶 😇
@HalfB You are quite welcome. I appreciate your curiosity to learn about these topics. God bless
I love my small, hand-sized New Living Translation NLT for quick on the run study. However it is not "grand" in language. And I do not like the change from the individual standing-for-all versus the COLLECTIVE-they. We live in an age that has a strong bias against the individual. We all are individuals, whether we like it or not. We don't have an natural identity with a generalized and watered down "they."
Thanks for your thoughts. Every translation has its own idiosyncrasies and we are fortunate to have choices. I hope you enjoy the new series on Manuscript Hunters. God bless
This was very interesting, balanced, and useful. Thanks a lot! 😊
@@nomcognom2414 Thanks for your kind comment! I hope you continue listening and sharing . God bless
Very well done. Thank you. Greetings from South Africa.
@@JacquesMare Greetings! I’m inn NYC today visiting the Morgan Library and viewing a few old Greek NT manuscripts. Thanks for your kind words.
The music is Too Strong! I had to stop watching.
@@Go-Dawgs Were you watching on a cellphone?
The music only really played for a little over a minute, from 2:45-3:55.
If you agree with this comment… feel free to turn down the audio of the background music. People love to complain. Ignore these silly comments and enjoy the video and interesting content!
Thank you and congratulations to the Dawgs for their SEC Championship.
Magi are zoroastrian occultists that did not worship the God of the Bible and could not have been wise men, as “the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” (Proverbs 9:10). The “wise men” were “from the east” and were not from the south and west of Jerusalem (Sheba, Tarshih, and Arabia) which many bible scholars claim. The wise men were looking to the scriptures at the prophecy by Balaam (who was located in Aram, Numbers 23:7 & Numbers 22:5) detailed in Numbers 24:17. The fact that the New Versions claim that these men were able to know where the Messiah was born by using sorcery is dangerous.
Very interesting and informative presentation. Great photos and maps. Excellent explanations. Thanks so much!
@@jamesmwood4544 Thank you! I appreciate it.
Lynching basically
@@HawkemCinco He was finding a modern culturally appropriate term
The Way was the Bible I used to read when I was a kid. Read it all the way through in middle school. When I got a bit older, I developed a taste for tighter, more precise translations. But I will always have a soft spot for the Living Bible.
@@Pedro-bk1ic Yeah, I am a little nostalgic for it. Brings back good memories. Thanks for sharing and God bless.
Thank you so much for this! I love my NLT so much for its clear language. The Bible needs to be understood!!! Lets face it. Im not going to read it if I dont understand it. TY TY TY and God bless you. 🙏🏻✝️📖
Agreed. Thanks for your kind comments and for listening and sharing. Much more to come. God bless
NIV = New Irish Version :)
Lol
these videos are fascinating thanks for making them
@@Sam-fp8zm you are welcome! I have two series already. Check them out and thanks for commenting and sharing!
Just imagine what happens when you get 144,000 Subscribers...
I am confident I will not be in that number
@@g0thamite What? No Marching In?!
@ lol
@@g0thamite 🤣🤣🤣🤣
WHOSE "contemporary English" are you talking about? Do you speak English this manner? I don't. I wasn't even aware of this degenerate usage. If one is going to stoop to cringe over every "archaism" that one encounters, the beauty and majesty of the English will be lost in favor of a debased, degraded, and smutty form of street language that no self-respecting and literate Bible reader would ever recognize as worthy of mention in the context of Biblical exegesis.
My name is Aden Moffatt, James is my great grandfather
That is wonderful. Thank you for sharing this with us and for listening! God bless
Very informative video. Just to point out something: the Textus Receptus is NOT a manuscript. It is just an edition of the Greek New Testament. That said, thanks for your engaging and informative video! 🙂
Correct. The TR is composed of relatively few and late manuscripts.
Thirty-two years ago (1992), I was an undergraduate taking some religious studies classes at UC Davis. Being a fly on the wall, I overheard a conversation between the professor (Dr. Lincoln Hurst) and another student. He mentioned that the dead scrolls had been advertised in the classified section of the newspaper - sandwiched between a Sears Stove and I don't recall the other advertisement. I'll look up those books you mentioned. Your content is just fantastic !
That’s so cool. Thanks for listening and sharing! God bless.
n short, these two codices are old simply because, first, they were written on extremely expensive and durable antelope skins, and secondly, they were so full of errors, alterations, and deletions, that they were never used by true believers and seldom even by their own custodians. Thus they had little chance of wearing away." John Burgon on Sinaiticus and Vaticanus Bing search
I wish it were that simple, but it is not.
@@g0thamite The fact is the orthodox Christians did not copy that type of text. Peace.
Gender of scholars should not play a factor in translations... identity politics should not play a part. We want the best- no matter the gender, ethnicity, or any other differentiations.
@@michaelshelnutt3534 There are many excellent women who are capable of doing great translations. This was not always the case.
@@g0thamite Ok, but the point remains, that it should not matter what gender the scholar is.
@@michaelshelnutt3534 My point exactly
Those who hold to identity politics should NOT be included. It is an aggressive ideology.
I picked up my copies of the RSV, one based on the 1946 text, another based on the 1971 text, and 2024 reprint of the 1971 text. Definitely a change. The copies of the NRSV I checked are different again. The 2011 edition of the NIV appears to have been updated.
@@richardvoogd705 There are usually some small differences as they go through revisions.
My first Bible was a Good News Bible. I like it because it's easy to read and understand. I don't hesitate to use a variety of translations. Sometimes, they bring out nuances and other shades of meaning that I might otherwise miss. (Edit: fix typo)
@@richardvoogd705 Very good point!
john 3:36 is a game changer in the Geneva. it changes salvation from belief to obedience. i am going to Hell then because I've failed God more times than i can count by these rules. i really hope this bible is not the real one.
@@trashgobbler5000 Faith if it has no works is DEAD being alone. This is Salvation 101.
Re: Isaiah 7:14 In my younger days (more years ago than I sometimes care to remember), I became aware of an expectation in some circles, that young people should save themselves for marriage, meaning that a respectable unmarried young woman was, by implication, a virgin. This would mean that harmonising the wording of Isaiah 7:14 with NT quotes from the LXX wouldn't be necessary.