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After listening I choose Elac Debut 3.0 DB63 and ordered, Now waiting for....

B&W definitely have a sound that's an acquired taste in my opinion. I've only ever listened to the 600/700 series and a brief demo of the Formation Duo. The treble was too much for me right away. Not just a tilt in the treble like Monitor Audio, Focal or even Klipsch, but to a degree that made it unpleasant. The last five years consumers have become much more aware of speaker measurements primarily thanks to ASR and more recently Erin H. There's of course pros and cons to this, but a lot of manufacturers have shown improved engineering. B&W certainly has the ability to make these models sound better while still being unique to their brand. I'd like to see them put more focus into the engineering in these series.

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Thanks for the review. A nice follow up to your unboxing video. To answer your questions, I did try these speakers and their matching stands in Rosenut. They look beautiful and the build quality is top notch. I had the same issues. The mid base was a little sucked out and they were too sibilant for my old guy ears. I also had the 702 S2 in Rosenut. Again beautiful and very detailed. The mid base was better but still too sibilant. The other issue was that while well recorded music was very detailed, live music sounded flat and lifeless. I recommend the Revel PerformaBe M126Be stand-mounts, which is what I still have in my listening room. The beryllium tweeters sound detailed without sibilance. The mid base with the bass element is excellent. They cost about the same but much better sounding in my experience. They are equally beautiful and well built. Also I can play all my music including live albums and they rock. Highly recommend. Rock on!

Showroom treble. Ew.

Elac better than q350?

I absolutely agree with you. I find the treble of the 700 s3 models with the tweeter on top to be too loud and emphazising on the treble. The models with the tweeter inside the cabinet have a much more balanced and pleasant sound. In fact I think those models sound very, very good. So good that I bought my own pair of 704 s3 floorstanders, which I use together with two Rel T5X subwoofers. One subwoofer connected to each speaker. I also expanded the setup with a pair of 707 s3 standmounts and a HTM 72 center channel for a home cinema setup, and I'm very happy with it.

B&W's are ultra bright. See if you can get hold of a pair of PS Audio FR5's. Thanks for an informative review.

you did a review of kef R3 meta not long ago. Are these B&W really better imaging than them? in what way?

Great review. Sad to hear about this 705 frequency response. I believe the sound will be fatiguing. I've the 685 but have been surpassed by newer technology and more cost effective speakers. I like the look and size of the 705 though.

Why not EQ them?

Very nice review! I don’t understand why you never look at the camera

I sold Hi Fi 40 years ago, B&W has never changed. All sizzle, no steak...

I believe this is the signature sound that B&W has that many people talk about.

I’m sorry for almost $2000 the driver should be better built then that.

I totally got your points. I own the 607 couple years ago and those pairs have such a pin-point precision that I ever experience. And yes, definitely sounding bright, and also kinda thin, at least with my 607.

IMO this is a very "real world" review & truthfully. IMO, this hobby (speakers & equipment) reminds me a lot of watches, there are "many" $2,000 and below watches that are equally as good-looking and perform the same as watches that cost $2,000 to $1M, I believe the same goes for Audio equipment these days, which is due to trickle-down technology, better manufacturing & made in China.

What do you think about the Edifiers R100T4? got them a little while ago, first ever good speakers i've ever had. The brand and the model are pretty popular here in brazil arround the "budget audiophile builds"

I don't care about all the measurements, to me my ears are the judge! I cannot hear any difference at all between these two speakers, why spend so much more when you can buy the Elac 3.0's at $449.00 all day long! Thanks for the video!!!

Just picked up the Klipsch! my main usage is home theater, so I wanted something on the brighter end of sound. I could imagine how purists would go for the more neutral elac though

Hi, kef Q3 meta or polk r200?

You say these are better than Sonos but I wonder if they sound better than Sonos 5s. In stereo they do sound well. Not nearly as nice as my 888s that I just got but at 1/5 the price plus no amplifier or streamer needed they seem like a good deal for a smaller room.

Where would you put the DB63’s at 1-10? You told me the Martin Logan b2’s were 8/10 and the 600m II’s were 6/10 I’m guessing maybe a 7 for the db63’s?

First time here, but nice work. Really appreciate the work in measuring and providing a sound comparison. Well done sir. BTW, I'd probably go with the R3's as well.

Still wanting a compare with Dali Oberon 3s.

That top-end is way too much for me. Lots of sibilance.

Great sharing.

The klipsch are too bright. They sound good when comparing to other speakers back and forth but that's about it. Fatigue kicks in when listening for long periods of time. IF you look up videos about the inside of the speakers, the Elac are better built hands down. I would not buy either jtbh.

Owned a pair last year. Offloaded them for a pair of Mission 770's. B&W's were way too bright & no much midrange. Also the made in China was a bit of a turn off.

Greetings from the Orkney Islands in Scotland. I've had my R3's for some time now and have loved them from the moment they arrived, but I was considering a move to the R3 Meta's. I just wanted to find out if the extra expense was worth it. Finally, in your excellent video, I found just what I was looking for! So, thanks for a great comparison. I look forward to seeing more of your videos now I've subscribed. Best wishes.

Klipsch and it is not even close, elac not worth money, you can go even better for less money, but at the end of the day bring the songs you listen all the time, play it in the store and hear what you like the most

Like many others here, I too purchased some B&W 705's from Best Buy, open box. Mine arrived in excellent condition. After a week of tweaking, I'm VERY VERY happy with the sound. Although, like any speakers, it's taken a while to dial in. In my room, setting my crossover (I'm using a SVS SB13 Ultra) to 57hz, and installing the "ring" style plugs really helped smoothing the mid-bass/bass transition. A little toe-in is good too.

What about long lasting of material in a front panel of elac?....

It is a great experience when you get toe-in correct and the imaging presents a 3-D stage that amazes the senses.

They look like very well made speakers. I hope you like them.

Possible giant killer.....bla bla bla

Thanks for the unboxing. I’ve purchased open-box from Best Buy too and have usually had a good experience when they are rated excellent. I bought a pair of the same B&W in the rosewood. Beautiful speaker and well built. Also had the matching stands. I ended up going with a pair of Revel PerformaBe M126Be instead for less money from a different dealer. The B&Ws were too sibilant to me. The beryllium tweeters on the Revels sound excellent to me and the midrange and upper bass was better too. I also tried the B&W 702 S2 and the tweeter sounds about the same as the 705s but with better bass. Enjoy your musical journey!

The ‘knock test:” . . . “The Elac just sounds like it’s a bit more solidly built of a speaker.” What a crock of s__t.

Great review. I have to admit, I remain a huge fan of Fritz Heiler's Carbon 7 SE Mk. 2. He's a small maker and uses high quality Scanspeak drivers and a very elegant crossover. Music sounds positively intimate and live -- no harshness but plenty of details. Much better than speakers 3x the price in my experience.

From what I heard, they kinda sound a little bright. UA-cam compression not doing any favors either. I would love to listen to them in person @Av-obsessed

The prices are bizarre, I bought my 805s for 2500 EUR back in 2005 and thought that was extremely expensive already. p.s. didn't keep them for long, ok highs, good bass, but very V curved (and from what I hear that's still the case for most B&W's)

705s3 Vs. 805 D4?

Hello, please let them play for a Week, they will change the Sound, your will see. Greetings Remy 🙂

Your local BB is questionable. Lol

How much did you get these for? Very nice loudspeakers.

The stereophile measurements scared me off of these. The treble response rises 10db from 2khz to 10khz.

Great channel mate really appreciate the effort and detail in your vids. Cheers.

i sold my Emotiva BasX-A3 because it’s not musical, doesn’t have the highs so it was missing notes. it’s not noticeable with compressed spotify, but is noticeable with a high quality lossless source such as Apple Music or blu-ray of the musical ‘Phantom of the opera’ starring Gerald Butler.

Anyone compared these to Emotiva XB2?