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Tony O'Connor
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2018 Christ’s College Under 18 8+. A and B crews.
In the middle of a 5km piece. These crews would come 1st and 6th in the 2018 National Secondary Schools Championships.
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Відео
Coaching kids (and their parents)
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Some of my thoughts about helping athletes teach themselves, dealing with parents and what sport is really about. Again just my opinion!
NZ M8+ Mike Brake 1x
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August 2020. Also in background are Phil Wilson and Stephen Jones.
NZ M8+ October 2020 . Nice little headwind all the way home.
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Everyone working on some simple individual tasks. For those who have not been on Karapiro, this is about 7 km from home heading back towards the shed. We have approx. a round trip of 45km on the lake. (Take a packed lunch!)
NZ M8+ Trials March 2021 Regatta course Karapiro
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NZ M8 Trials March 2021 Regatta course Karapiro
No wonder the NZ team consistently kicks ass since they practice in literal paradise
whoops that’s switzerland lmao
Tony, thank you for uploading so many of these videos for coaches and athletes to learn from. If you don’t mind, could you share what you set the spread and oars to for your guys?
Hi Cam, No problem. 376com overall length (C2 Skinny oars, handles were whatever the boys were comfortable with so some had veneer, some rubber etc) 82.5cm spread and 112.5 inboard.
amazing
Next time I am in Asunción
Although this is definitely an experienced crew rowing on a high level, interestingly they are diverting quite a bit from the textbook. The break they make right after extraction is to be avoided according to World Rowing literature. And here in Europe, you hardly see this style in advanced rowing. I wonder if NZ - or other parts of the world in general - have another approach in this regard.
I reckon there is no "right way" to row. If its fast its good. However over the past century and a half so many aspects of the stroke are similar. Exaggerations come and go but a basic rowing style seems to permeate though the years.
Hello there, looking at the boat you've coached it seems that they have an different catch than most other crews I've seen. It seems a lot smoother and more similar to a slip catch as opposed to backing it in and creating much splash like crews such as Brookes do. Could you maybe provide me with some insight as to why this type of catch would be more beneficial for this specific piece or in general? I had always assumed that the best catch involves backing it in as the boat is gliding.
Im not sure what you mean by backing it in?
@@tonyoconnor8690 Sorry, I should have been more specific in my phrasing. I mean that when you are at the catch and putting your blades in the water, one waits until the blades are fully submerged before starting the drive in any manner. As opposed to moving the blades slightly with the water so as to slip into it without much splash at the catch.
@@derimon8802 I feel the only stroke one can fully submerge the blade, and then move the body mass/seat towards the bow, is the very first one while the boat is stationary. Relative to the blade there is no movement of the water. As soon as the boat is moving if you try to cover the blade with no movement of the handle towards the bow, then you are starting to apply a negative pressure on the pin.. In other words you are actually trying to slow the boat ‘reverse' the boat/ back it in. I’ve heard some (not many ) coaches ask their rowers to try to create backsplash at the entry point. If you do this you are imparting pressure on the back of the blade, which in turn imparts a naive pressure on the pin and in fact starts to decelerate the boat. It’s not rocket science to realise that at the entry point, the first part of the blade to touch the water is the bottom part. No matter how quick someone is with the handle lift, the boat will have travelled a small distance in the time that the top of the blade is finally covered. This is the slip that is inevitable. The better the rower, the quicker the blade is filled with water. But remember we are trying to lever the boat move in a forward direction, not retard the run by backing the blade in. Too many people start with the notion that it is the blade which is the most important movement at the catch. It is , in my opinion, the continuous movement of the boat which is the only motion we should be interested in. I would encourage folks to try to create backsplash at the catch and see/feel the juddering feeling in their hands and the boat. Then I would ask them to take half the stroke to cover the blade. This will be a lot smoother but of course they won’t be levering the boat very effectively. The true catch lies somewhere in between. Cover quickly, with the movement of the blade just about matching (or slightly faster) than the speed of the boat at the point of entry. Get it in quickly, gather the water and lever the boat smoothly, immediately but powerfully with little disruption to the bow run.
I typed naive, I mean negative. Mind you thinking about it naive might actually be a good description!
so beautiful
Hi tony, love your work! One question, which is actually quite big. How do you teach your vision of the catch to your athletes? It seems they are all connected early and take their time applying power. However, how do you exactly convey this message of calmness and precison to your rowers?
Its a great question. Actually, the answer to that question is the secret to fast rowing. The entry and application portion of the stroke cycle is absolutely the most vital part in my opinion and unfortunately the hardest to achieve successfully. Defining succesfully, I mean can you fill up the blade with water as quickly as possible with the blade in the optimum position losing little arc while covering, but at the same time applying work and most importantly not upsetting the smooth run of the shell. A lot to think about and feel in a split second but worth aiming for. How do I approach that?? I could be here all night and still not answer that one. I think first and foremost you discuss with (not tell) the athlete the reason why this is the correct approach. (If you actually believe it is) Constantly looking at the blade while trying to achieve this is vital. Ignore those people who say you shouldn't look at your blade. Nonsense! Of course you should. You don't look out the window when you are signing a cheque! Certainly trying to reduce splash or at least having a little splash on BOTH sides of the blade is an aim. I often ask the rowers to imagine a fish under the water just where the blade is to enter. You need to get the blade in behind the fish and strongly but carefully push the fish with your blade. If you are too slow the fish will just swim away. If you are too fast you will hurt the fish. It's a matter of matching you and your blade speed to the speed of the boat. Just join in tho the existing speed and then add to it, powerfully but with care and wisdom. I could do this all night as I said but hopefully that will get you thinking. Longest reply ever for the best question ever! Thanks
@@tonyoconnor8690 Thank you for the (extensive) response! We often try and use the mindset that the water is full of poles which we want to 'hook' our blade behind without slamming into it, but this often has mixed results. I like your fish example a lot more! Will definitely steal this one to use in the future.
@@dl4233j Maybe the pole should be made of crystal. Strong if loaded correctly but fragile if hit too hard?
@@tonyoconnor8690 That's actually a great addition, never thought of that! I also have a follow up question on the catch, specifically on the movement towards the water. There is a training video (don't remember wich one) of Steve Gladstone (Yale University) mentioned 'twisting' the blade into the water. The way I've normally heard it however is moving the blade towards the water and 'dropping' the blade just before arriving at the catch. This does however result in catches which are quite slow and often still too late. Actively twisting the blade into the water allows for a quicker entry but then often results in a loss of relaxation and ability to properly connect. What would be your take on this?
@@dl4233j Can you expalin what you mean by twisting it in? Thanks
Very nice rowing, was wondering if you are still coaching?
Is the pope still Catholic?
@@tonyoconnor2744 Lol, is there a possibility I could ask a question regarding technique?
@@krestmis Of course. I'll do my best to answer.
@@tonyoconnor8690 I was wondering what you are looking for regarding length at the catch? If I remember correctly you mentioned in an interview with Martin Cross that you like the shins fairly perpendicular, what about the positioning of the shoulder and hip angle?
Pace?
No idea. To be honest I've never worried too much about numbers. Feel the movement, and the numbers will be good.
I was asking myself what kind of scholastic crew rows this well, then I looked at the channel name.
It's nteresting that they pause briefly at the finish while rowing at slower stroke rates, but then drop the pause and move to a continuous stroke when they move into race pace.
Not a pause. The handle never stops moving. Its a careful change of direction of the handle allowing everyone to quietly sync up the movement of the body mass out of the boys which creates free speed (Newtons 3rd law). Initially a couple of them did actually stop the handle at the finish, but we all agreed that since the water flows continuously, and the boat does likewise, we, as rowers should keep moving too.
@@tonyoconnor8690 Thanks for the clarification. I'm relatively new to the sport, and my coaches and teammates have never used that careful change at the finish.
@@MisterJeffy All good! I reckon (just my opinion) that whatever we are doing in the boat we should be careful. We all like to work hard when rowing, but we need to ensure all that good work does not upset the ability of the boat to glide as it was designed.
what is that metal rod hanging off starboard side of the boat nearby the 5 seats rigger
A metal straw usually used as a visual cue to get more length in the rowing stroke
it's a white ziptie we tape to the hull at the correct catch angle + handle height, metal rod would mess your hands up
not able to lengthen out....except for 2 man of course
Wow he has come a long way! Despite the agricultural grip there is so much touch and a beautiful feel for the speed of the boat through the stroke cycle. So simple and fluid making it so nice to watch
'Combine the crew with concept 2 symmetrical blades (pre- Barcelona Olympic design)....... and you'll would do yourselves a big favour!
Go on…….
Hi
I took the relaxed face thing (and so much more) to cycling after some HM sessions as a 17yo. Road cycling calls it tranquille.. same thing. As a relative heavyweight, I'd never have ridden as quick up hills without him, and all the same power efficiencies apply to the bike. Totally transcribable philosophy, for when the hammer goes down.
Is there a tougher sport?
I started rowing in spring of my sophomore year of high school and my captain, a senior at the time, would show us this video at least once every time we did team film. Flash forward to my senior year and now we are using this as an example to send to new rowers. I always come back to this video I have probably watched it at least 100 times. Aram Training's breakdown of this footage and others of the NZ 8+ has become almost a comfort movie for me lol. Thank You Mr. O'Connor.
Rowing on the sEMPACHERsee with a Fillipi shell
Sneaky little hand dip at 0:48
That is some seriously good run
Realy like his blade depth and patience
I recognize that 2 seat. 😮
many of us i think
gloves, I must be seeing things
Where was Hamish?
Perfect piece of art
Stroke is a GB spy
just getting back into coaching rowing after a long break and these videos and interviews are great. From what I can see it is all about executing the skills of the start and feeling the movement of the boat rather than raw power. Add the power in later and you fly, which they clearly did. Like this one, putting it into the list of things to do.
Rating 43-44 for the whole piece
yeh the synergy...also you can see how it's all about momentum once they get the boat running dude just don't do anything unnecessary on the recovery
He's improved a lot between this footage and 2023, where he won a bronze at worlds.
U3 otw splits?
No idea Callum. Honestly cant remember.
@@tonyoconnor8690 no worries! Thanks for the reply!
Hi Tony! What's the meaning of U3?
Very light effort, low heart rate.
@@EwanMorrow lower than UT2?
@@akkornemtudom9571 yes. Very very easy.
@@EwanMorrow even with low hr they look fast :D
This is a sport i could really get into ill be the guy steering at the back
For some reason Bond 2- is in front. How’s that happen 😅
Poetry on water ….mesmerizing
Unbelievable
Hamish Bond at it again
"Ok, best sweep rower in history, we're going to put you in three seat." 😅
😃🎥👍
It’s a shame the catch has been removed from the sport.
What on earth are you in about?😂
@@Anthony-zl9ww well, “I’m in about” when backsplash was an actual thing. Now just a bunch of chopping at the catch. IYKYK.
@renaissanceman8581 hahaha wtf 😂 what's happening now is what makes the boat go fastest 😂 if you think an overly exentuated back splash is better then you're just a muppet
@@AxelPRC show me the faster times! With all this technology and advances in training topped off with these missed catches, sorry! Awesome new technique, should see all these new fast times. I’ll wait, chode!
@renaissanceman8581 what in the hell are you talking about? The world records are consistently getting broken 😂 high school crews go as fast as elite crews from the 80's 😂
Is this threshold? Stroke rate?
The boat is making noise
So loose around the release, particularly in stroke.
what rate is this
Imogen, I have no idea. I tend to actively avoid screens and numbers. I look for what makes the boat go fast, then aim to recreate it. The rate was just a byproduct or outcome of speed.
Was the shell a bit big for them? Bow is getting pretty high.
Good boat!
Y is 3 seat such a chopper
bruh
no wonder they won - the stroke man was british