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@wierd-al_3336 Thanks for the kind words... every one of them; my FAVORITE comments are those of constructive criticism. I truly mean that!! It makes me feel good that you are comfortable enough here to say such a thing, that you like me well enough to try to help me, and you are taking part of the channel... belongs to all of us! I like the idea!!! I've got a few videos edited and to be released; so there may be a couple more in the "wrong" order; in the future videos, I will dang sure be cognizant of trying to put the info in a better order; I had never considered it!! Thanks again!!

@olemountainman3996 Ole Mountain Man!!! So glad to hear from you; it's been weighting heavy on my mind and was just hoping your were busy and that your bride was/is doing well; seeing your comment just lightened my shoulders and made my day!! Now, don't go to drawing hieroglyphics on your saws; I'm sure you use crayons, and crayons will attract the mice; normally a mouse has better taste than to chew on a Husky, but once tempted with peanut butter or crayons.... 😉🤣🤣 I didn't cover the WHOLE story... pulling the rope isn't needed on modern saws and could (mostly) get away with it on older saws. I was (more) trying to address how the old habit came about and how the monkey-see/monkey-do can be good or bad depending on the pawl location. Sure glad to hear from ya!!

I’m up in the mountains doing a volunteer silviculture stewardship contract in a three way partnership. My job is to do the heavy work. Ain’t no pay but I do have the benefit of endless work. One of my major disappointments is I have no internet till next year and I miss a lot of your videos and most all of my comments won’t go out and gets erased if they don’t. I don’t understand UA-cam’s system because my emails go out, most of the time. This contact will go out because I’ve gone home to get supplies and see my sweetheart of 60 years. I’ll do my best to keep up with your channel, it’s the best one out there, especially now that I hear the purr of a Husqvarna on your show once in a while instead of the clunk clunk clunk of them damn Sthil’s 😁. The wife is doing well, but has more therapy before she can come up to the camp and be with her hairy Ole “drop dead gorgeous“ Mountain Man😮. PS: You’re room with all the testing, recording and filming equipment is a fantastic achievement, it puts out the best information over all others I’ve seen. Until the next pathway through the internet waves, Ole Mountain Man

@shannonhelmers7373 Thanks for the kind words; I would agree that I know a "thing or two.* .. I know 1) to come in out of the rain (that makes me as smart as a chicken) and 2) I know not to urinate into the wind... yup, that about covers it!! 😂🤣😉 Seriously, thanks for the kind words; I'm awful glad to have you here and absolutely love the fact that you chose to join in down here in the comments!!

@stormcrowe9820 Awesome, thank you, and sure glad to have ya!! Thanks for the sub, but more importantly, thanks for joining-in down here in comments; I love THAT!!

@wierd-al_3336 Mr Harvey is a heck of a guy, isn't he??!! Come guys chimed in that have experience in milling and it seems that 10-12 minutes or a full tank at wide-open-throttle is not unheard of?? Sure can smear a piston pretty easy if it gets too lean, though. Thank you for coming over and checking things out here; thanks especially for joining-in down here in the comments!

@H3110NU Ironhorse is a good person, isn't he??!! Thanks for the kind words and for joining-in. I've only been working on saws for a year or two; previously, I worked on gas turbines (jets), diesels (Semi tractor mechanic), new car dealerships, and oil field "hit-and-miss" engines, and even antique steam engines; two strokes are the most fascinating to me. Thanks again to both you and Harvey!!

@justinjones5288 Ohhhh; good idea!! Don't know how soon I can do it and get video, but that sounds like a winner!! Thanks for joining-in and thanks for the idea!!

@TheJohnDeereGuy You and I are gunna get in trouble; I was tempted to answer your comment with something like "I like working on Huskys because you can't make one any worse!!!"... but I resisted the urge to type it because there's too many new people who may not have a sense of humor... yet!!! 😂🤣😉

@mattw5729 Aw shucks, I'm the one that owes you the "thanks"!! I sure appreciate you!!

@hdhhc5555 I've only been to Canada a handful of times; mom grew up at Lake of the Woods on the US side; beautiful country!! I wouldn't admit to too many people that you understand my sense of humor... they'll be wanting to medicate you TOO!! 🤫 😂 Thank you for being here, sir!!

@Kevin.L_ I didn't show the grueling part; the chickens had a revolt and laid rotten eggs that smelled like pond water for two days!!! I think I've got about all the doodads hung on it that a fellow can stand... except maybe a DB meter... it's always something/never satisfied. I want to get some more heat runs on stock saws (I've got 2 more) so that I can assess if a ported saw is getting too hot.

​@@HayChaffandSawdust1You put a bigger cam in a saw, guess you'll need a bigger radiator next.

@@Kevin.L_ Right??!!

@HHBCustoms Welcome; so glad you stopped in and especially happy you joined-in down here with all of us riffraff. Which Maxima did you get; I think they've got quite a few different types?? Ooooh, the smell of a good 2 stroke oil!! Nearly as good as cordite in the morning (aging myself with an old movie reference) 😉😁 Again, sure glad you stopped in!!

Formula k2, it's good for all seasons

@@HHBCustoms I hear that's good stuff

I heard heads exploding all over the world as I said it!

@BuckYaSaws That's why I like two strokes; every little nuance can keep my mind occupied for days!! With the stinger protruding into the can, I've found a bit of a performance gain by having the pipe cut at an angle to "catch" the exhaust as it comes out of the exhaust port.

@redtiller1975 Thanks!! I like the 026/260 chassis; AM parts are cheap and plentiful (if you're going to test to the point of destruction it starts adding up quick). Thanks for joining in!!

@andrewkeeling9961 Thank you, Andrew!!

@stacyharmon5865 Thanks for the feedback on your preferences; it really helps me to determine what parts of my life that people like to see!. I don't think there's TOOO much difference between your mill and mine, then. I think my hydraulics *may* be a little faster?? If there's anything I can help you with on the mill, don't hesitate to ask; hope the same goes for me?? If I did mention the Wabash River (I have previously), it was actually misleading a little bit; I live on the *LITTLE* Wabash River; it dumps into the *BIG* Wabash River. The Little Wabash is still a proper river and not just a creek (aka crick) or stream; my property borders it; if I ever get rain again (droughty right now), my property will be UNDER it.

@FarmlessFarmer-xs1he Hey Farmless!!!! You've been weighing on my mind; hadn't heard from ya for about 3 vids; I was hoping all is going swimmingly with you and your current endeavors 😉 and that you were just short on time; was praying for your safety and good health!!

I have been personally running Echo Red Armor for awhile now, it’s JASO FD rated and IMO really good stuff.

@HawtSawz86 Thanks for the kind words; I bet we would have enjoyed working together before I retired (no matter what either of us do); I always kept my co-workers (over and under my status) on their toes and in a good mood; work just flew by for most of us!!

@HawtSawz86 From what I hear, Red Armor is as good or better than the Amsoil that I'm using. After this quart of Amsoil (which I had to order), I may try some Red Armor; I can by it locally. At some point, I think the oils are like wrenches... whether it's snapon, mac, matco, cornwell, etc... THEY are all good wrenches and in a totally different class than the one that are stamped Taiwan on one side and "chrome vanadium" on the other.

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 I am sure I would love working with you, there is a lot of joy out there if people look for it. Holding humor in our lives I think is the best thing we can do for ourselves and those around us. On the wrench comparison, I agree 100%, that’s a great analogy. There are a couple of videos out there from Echo that are interesting that talk about how the oil was developed for small outdoor equipment and how that’s a bit different in application than a general 2 stroke oil or like how you mentioned in the video a boat 2 stroke. There’s obviously exceptions because a chainsaw sees different use than a weed whacker who rarely gets off the ground and different yet than a leaf blower who has the snot squeezed out of her the whole time. Thanks for all your videos and all the effort at putting testing and data towards the ideas and topics thrown around out there. Love how you are questioning the theories in a positive way to understand them in an unbiased fashion. Good morning sunshine! Haha

@HawtSawz86 The crappier the job, the more need there is for a little good-humor; scooping manure with a tea-spoon would be fine task if everyone was in a good mood!! I've never gotten into the oils much; a chainsaw was just another tool; growing up, we reused motor oil after an oil change for bar oil. Brand new 30w oil in the gas can and shake it up for mix. Heck, even THAT worked just fine. After using it for a couple of tanks in the 026 with a new piston, there was NOTHING on top of the piston except for a sheen of oil... I was impressed with the Amsoil. Good evening Moonshine... ya know, *actually* the moon is more important that the Sun; the moon comes out and gives us much-needed light when it's dark outside; the Sun is out when it's already light enough to see!!! What a waste!!

@SawChainTheories I would be so!! I could also use some of THEIR info (I've never milled with a saw); how long of a cut (under constant and near full load) *IS* a long cut? 5 minutes, full tank?? or do they let up on the load every couple of minutes to let it catch its breath?? Personally, I want to attempt to quantify a "safe" max temp; with THAT number, I could know when a ported saw if ported too hot to be a work saw; I think it will become easier and easier (as abilities get better) to be able to port a saw to the point that it can not cool itself any longer. Thanks for joining-in giving me another place to look for data!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 It depends, small stuff a minute or 2, huge slabs a tank might make 1 cut or less. I always just ran them wide open the whole cut, others might get it a rest in the middle. Few of the things I do or have done that probably don't make a difference but made me feel better, Big saws (90+) I run with the low side 1/8 to 1/4 turn rich. They still rev cleanly but if left idling for more than 20 seconds or so they smoke and can stumble on the initial rev. The idea here is the fuel pooling in the cylinder helps them cool after long cuts. Big milling stuff, run them rich enough to take 500-800rpm out of the max rpm in the hope it helps cool. Something I really want to know, Does the fuel cool more efficiently than the oil. Say 25:1 vs 50:1 does the 50:1 run cooler due to the fuel content being able to cool the cylinder better or does the extra oil help control heat. The extra oil seems to help ring seal and possibly leads to slightly more power but does it run cooler or hotter?

@@SawChainTheories Whoa, whoa whoa!! You're asking me questions that would get me burned at the stake!!!! I ain't skeert and I got my asbestos underduds on, so here goes: I think a 40:1 will run cooler than 50:1 due to multiple reasons; First we can assume less friction on everything; second: if there's a better coating of good oil on the cyl walls, the rings will seal better; if the rings seal better, then less combusted gasses get by the rings and foul the bottom end. In a perfect world, the top end would be hot and the bottom end would stay cool due to always taking in cool air. Gasses blowing by the rings will actually heat the lower end some and foul the next charge with combustion gasses; in theory the fouled charge could run leaner and compound the problem. We know that a narrow squish band (the small circumference around the outside of the piston/combustion chamber) runs hotter than a wider squish band. Fuel under the squish band does not burn as early as fuel outside. The unburned/slower burned fuel acts as an insulator... or is just less hot ... in the area right next to the cyl walls. I picture it like a beer coozie, but on the inside. A wider squish band is a thicker coozie. The unburned fuel acts like a gasoline powered radiator; it doesn't produce much power, but is used for cooling instead. It's hard to watch some of my farming videos when the interest is chainsaws, but I think I spoke for @20 minutes on my theory while tedding straw?? Many of my farming videos, about 5-8 minutes in, go to chainsaw theory (in case you weren't aware). it was earlier in the year and some bigger channel(s) were watching my content, getting it wrong, and making their own... I started "hiding" chainsaw content for the real friends of the channel. FYI, there's another one coming up that is hay-making related, but it's REALLY about a timing advance in saws. Anyway... so, I think the fuel that is going to be combusted quickly offers no cooling effect; the fuel in excess (under the squish band and by running rich) does either cool the saw or makes less heat; same result... cooler saw. There, that oughtta get run out of town!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 It's scary when you look around the room and realise your the smart one but, your the best we got here. Good explanation and I need to catch up on some of the farming videos. You need to get yourself a lab coat (cut the sleeves off) so you look the part when giving out information

Longest I've ran when milling is maybe 12 min. Always WOT and non-stop. I can't tell it's getting much hotter in long runs, but I tend to stay rich and 40:1 mix. No extra cooling between slabs other than fuel and oil. I haven't milled a ton, but that's my experience.

@jakegorman7121 Dang sure food for thought! I admit that I don't know "c'mere" from "sic 'em" as far as youtube goes!! Thanks for the advice!

@jakegorman7121 Weeeelllll, I ain't saying it would work on a door hinge, but it's GOT to be good for something??!! Waterproofing boots or SOMETHING!! 😉

I've had some on the shelf for 10 years and can't even give it away. Let me know when you find that use.

@@Kevin.L_ Oh, the grey bottle... that's synthetic, ain't it??!! Can't even use that on my hay wagons; most of my horse customers demand "organic" hay; they wouldn't touch the stuff if it's synthetic. 😉😉

Thanks!!

@jakegorman7121 Thanks for the words of encouragement!!

@cygnux1 Welcome!! Awful glad you're here!! I hear good and bad stuff about most oils. I just tried these two different ones on a whim and was merely searching for a difference in ring seal as to be seen by lower case heat saturation. I may try to try to calculate way to do a honest test with no preconceived expectations!! Thanks for the suggestion, thanks for being here, and especially a thanks for joining-in down here in the comments.

@jasentonguepowersaws4206 My email is in the description of every email; do mind shooting me an email sometime??

@fearghalmorrissey2601 I know another builder who has done just that, but it was on a saw such as a Husky 372; at that saw, he was able to get some readings; being on the side of the cylinder, it was protected from most of the combustion pressure. On saws such as Stihls and/or THIS Husky, the decomp in in the combustion chamber and dynamic compression would be immediately overpowered by the combustion pressure. I expect combustion pressure would be 600-1000psi. I've sure considered doing JUST like you suggest, but have not concluded a way that I think will work. Have you any ideas to overcome the spikes in combustion pressure at RPM? I wish I was better at Arduinos or BlackberryPI, but I'm not!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 I have no ideas on overcoming the spike in pressure..it was just a thought i had..i didnt know another builder had experimented with it...sounds a bit dangerous now that you shed some light on it..lol..love the channel...keep up the good work 😎

@fearghalmorrissey2601 OH BOY, I absolutely *LOVE* bantering ideas back and forth; I like it to the point of always taking the opposite side of an idea of somebody else... not to be argumentative, but so that we can both help each other!! I will take the "anti" side of a discussion (even if I agree with the OTHER side) just so each of us can hone our thinking and maybe come to a valid conclusion. I can/love-to argue either side... whether it's to present possible problems or possible solutions!! I say THAT to try to tell you that any ideas are welcome and I may point out problems, but it's out of pure respect and also to illustrate that I am mentally trying to debate with my piers (of which you are one)! I think, mentioning arduino and/or blackberrypi, (little computer gadgets with a HIGH refresh rate) it is highly possible to do JUST what you are suggesting by employing a pressure transducer; I'm just not near smart enough with those gadgets to program one... they come as a blank slate and use their own "language" to program one of them; I don't know the language. I tried wrapping my head around Arduino last year until I realized I it wouldn't do the task I wanted (data logging for my dyno so that I don't have to manually input data); I found that BlackberryPi could do it, but its language was much harder to learn/program. I know that was long-winded, but I wanted to illustrate that I LOVE other ideas and also, maybe somebody who knows BlackberryPI will read this and reach out. Thanks for giving me something about which to think!!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 I know nothing about them lol..maybe if you bring it up on one of your videos...somone might chime in 🤞

@fearghalmorrissey2601 I might just do that!!

@fearghalmorrissey2601 Thanks for the kind words and for joining-in down here!!

@happy8637 You are spot-on about my intentions about fuel consumption. This was the first trial; I've since run my 026 (ported/ex modded) and need to run a couple more of my stock saws to get some base numbers. Admittedly, one saw isn't much of a pattern, but I had to start somewhere. Thanks for being here and joinin-in!!

@toddzilla6491 I sure have thought about doing a db test, but have not concluded a proper way to do it in a manner that would be accurate and/or fair to each saw/muffler. I'm not familiar with "spl"?? I've lost most of my hearing due to working in turbine (jet) engines and the other pesky little doodads commonly associated with military service. Saws, even stock ones, can sure play havoc on hearing.

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 Spl can really vary with frequency. I’ll see if I can find my old decibel meter. And donate it to the channel. Yessir turbines , weapons and power tools can damage the hearing. Now I have grandkids I wish I had been smarter about protecting my hearing. Maybe you can help save some youngsters hearing🤣 PS: I do have an SPL app on my phone and will try and test its accuracy when I’m feeling a bit better.

@toddzilla6491 I had to look up "SPL" as I didn't know what it was. I can see it being worse on some pipes. I've thought of using a decibel meter, but have been unsatisfied with HOW to properly use is. I would almost need to have it contained in my array of readouts so that I could document in real-time in conjunction with RPM/load. Also, the mic/pickup would need to be near(er) the location of the operator for it to be fair. Also, depending upon where the outlet of the pipe was, it could bounce off of a wall in my little cubby and give one exhaust-discharge-location an incorrectly-loud reading. Not saying it can't be done or isn't worth the little bit of fudge factor, but I've been trying to sort it out in my mind for a WHILE; I haven't come up with a solution that is beyond reproach. As much as a problem-solver as I see myself, I'm actually more of a problem-maker-upper. Any ideas???

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 Several valid points there. Would almost have to do it outside. Your cubby might really increase the actual level. Other than clipping a small mic to a chest pocket. I don’t have any other ideas 🙁

@fabzacres-blackcat 10-20% losses??!! Pffft... hold my beer!! I've seen losses WAAY bigger than that; I smeared the piston's aluminum over the surface of the rings while doing a heat run... 100% loss in power!!! 🤣😉

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 oof! It happens tho. I think a lot of guys damage their saws by yarding on them wide open in big wood right from the git-go! I usually let them warm up until the cylinder is hot to the touch. Ya can always zip thru the small stuff to get them up to temp on / off the throttle

@camrynrhodes798 You're welcome and sure will; thanks for being here and taking your time to join-in!!

@andrewgrubb8947 You ever saddle a horse for the first time?? It helps to put a blindfold on them sometimes so that they are not as fearful.... well anyway, I had to put a blindfold on the dyno and rub Vic's Vaporub under it's valve so it couldn't smell that Husky coming 🤣😉 This is the first batch of oil that I've ran other than Stihl oil (or as another calls it... "pond water") I don't know if I would ever be able to do a long term comparison, but I was expecting to see more on the dyno. Oh well. The smell!! Oh my!! I never noticed the smell of a two stroke before' once I put the amsoil mix in the saw, I could smell dad running the saw from 100 yards!! Love it. Also, it was the first time I could still see the machining marks on top of the piston after running for a few tanks. I'm just a hack, so all are new experiences for me. Thanks for joining-in and for the kind words!!

@joecasatelli4825 🤣🤣😂😂 I misread that for the first two times!! I read "petty" as "pretty"; my first thought was "most of 'em are, but I dang sure ain't".

@joecasatelli4825 That Amsoil is pretty skookum, ain't it!! I can't aver that one's better than another, but I'm impressed so far!! Thanks for joining-in and for the kind words!!

@primozsuhadolnik5468 Thank you so much for the kind words!! I want you to know that I appreciate you using your time to leave a comment! Thank you!

@BuckYaSaws Thanks!! I don't know where to quit with the dyno!! Part of mind loves to put numbers on stuff; part of my mind loves figuring out HOW to get the numbers, part of my mind likes to figure out how to build something mechanical to extract the numbers, and the other part of my mind says "hey look... butterfly!!!" 🤣😉 Thanks for joining-in and for the kind words!!!

@Homes4homies Thanks Chase; those are awful kind words!! As far as subscribers, UA-cam is pretty good at their job (I guess) and it's about like getting a job... gotta have 20 year experience to get a job, but no one is willing to hire and GIVE experience. A small channel grows slowly due to youtube not recommending a small channel as often as a big channel... gotta spend time in the trenches!! That was probably a rhetorical question, wasn't it!!?? Anyway, really happy ya found us; glad to have you here and especially glad you joined-in down here in the comments!!

@jaysparrowhawk9388 Modesty... you have modesty!! Building my dyno is like a kid going downhill on a bike with no brakes; I just keep picking up speed and can't find a good place to get off (quit adding options). I think my love for the data is what drives me; if someone says xxxx "kills your fuel economy", I instantly want to know if it's just hubbub and if I can quantify it. Thanks for being here and joining in.

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 , my bike has no brakes they are part of my dyno!

@jaysparrowhawk9388 Ahhh the old brake dyno; I had a factory-made dyno with drum brakes for dyno-testing tractors; the principal is sound, reliable, repeatable, and works very well; nothing to scoff at!! Didn't need brakes on your bike anyway; brakes are for sissies!! 😉😂🤣

@krazy8ball Very cool!! I have the scraps laid out for an ironhorse pipe right now; will also probably try dual port (in addition to the top port) on the stock can... man, even an aftermarket can for these saws is sort of pricey!! I would like to have your favorite numbers!! If you don't want to publicize them here, my email is ALWAYS in the description. Good to hear from ya; hope all has been well with ya!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 cool I will look them up in my saw book and send them to ya. Might be a few days but I will hook you up. I think it could be warmer but it is a respectable work saw for my area. Love your channel by the way. Have a great day!!

@krazy8ball Sounds good!! No hurry; still have to work my cattle thru the chute, grind feed for the hogs, cut more firewood, build and test pipes for the 455, etc... before I ever yank the cyl off. Being just a thing to keep me off the bar stool, chainsaws don't progress here as fast as they do other places 😉.

I subbed 2 ur channel just now sir!!

@alltherpm I think Red Armor is a top-notch oil also; if someone never opens their saw, they may never know/see the difference between oils. I've ran Stihl oil for YEARS and never (that I know of) had excessive wear or problems due to oil... BUT, after running Amsoil for just a short time, the inside of the engine, it's sure cleaner! Never heard of Benol, but I'm not a pro or someone that uses his/her saw daily either.

@alltherpm Aw heck, I appreciate the Sub; you stop in and comment often and I just assumed you were/are. Thank you and thanks for always joining-in!!

@diggindiggenit6540 Thanks!! Wasn't much chainsaw running... the only thing running was my pie-hole, just because I'm proud of my dyno, doesn't mean that there's an interest; thanks for the feedback, for being here regular, and for bantering with me down here!!

@SepticWhelk I think it's a good choice!! About the only oil I avoid is boat oil. After buying some Saber, I was amazed at how clean the top of the piston (and everything else) was while having a nice film of oil; I assume your bike oil gives similar results; if bug guts gave me THOSE kind of results, then I would be putting bug guts in my gasoline!! "NOT A TEAM PLAYER"; that's funny how people over different parts of the world will find a way to put the same label on people like you and me but use different words. I wasn't too smart... it was a long time before I realized it wasn't a compliment!!! 😂😉

@oldcodger1929 You ain't kidding; it's worse than the cockpit of a brand new cotton gin!!

@@HayChaffandSawdust1 well sir I haven't seen the inside of a new cotton gin. Hell Eli Wittney was still working on putting one together last I remember.

@oldcodger1929 Oh Goodness 😂😂😂🤣🤣

@gasaxecustomsaws Awesome!! I've never been to Texas or Alaska... 'fraid I'd never come home from either one of them places. Glad you had a good time, but glad you're back!!

@marleymayfield2635 Life's too dang short to be serious ALL the time 😉 When I was a wee little lad, the WHOLE county had two stop lights (in the "big" town of the county); and (I know I lie a LOT, but I'm serious right now) at 10PM, they made both stoplights blink yellow on the main drag and blink red on the side roads of the intersection. Another piece of history, the toothbrush was invented RIGHT here too... at least I assume it was... if it were invented anywhere else, they would have called it a "teeth"brush. 😂😂 Thanks for joining-in down here with us; I sure enjoy the banter!!

@stripersniper1531 From the looks of the Wheelhorse, you're heart's sure in the right place to be a farmer. Thanks for riding along; sure am happy to have you hear for as long as you wannt to stay/can put up with me!! There's *GOT* be be a story behind your handle?? Thanks for joining-in down here!!

@curtisgriffith9825 Ol' Harvey has sure stuck his neck out to mention me/my channel; I sure hope you are not disappointed!! I am sure glad that you stopped by and extra glad that you took time to join-in down here!!

@stacyharmon5865 Welcome and I sure hope I don"t disappoint ya: Ironhorse is a heck of a person and having him "use" his reputation to help me is a big deal to me. I am actually trying to make more sawmill videos; I have one coming of cutting walnut slabs for a conference table. Thanks for being here and thanks, especially, for joining-in down here.

@stacyharmon5865 Also forgot to mention that there are a few sawmilling videos, twin blade edger videos, lap siding videos, etc... on the channel and in playlists (in case you had not seen that they were there); Thanks again.