I enjoyed the video, Ya pooch too !! Still above my head on the saw stuff !! Like the one man operation !! Turnip eatin Pooch , haha love it !! Take Care !! That Ford looked Ram tuff !!
@jamesconn7311 Aw heck, inertia is inertia whether in a chainsaw, the flywheel on a baler, the flywheel on your ol' pickumuptruck.... Turnips??! Can you believe it!! He is a dang goontard; he has bonded with me to the point I have to be extra careful; he will eat jalapeno potato chips with me. The only thing he doesn't like is a core's road soda (spelled it wrong so the tube police don't shut be down for not bei ng family friendly); good thing he don't like wobble pops and chaw backy; my habit is expensive enough!!!
I’ve only ever turned off a handful of anyone’s videos in my life. If I turn it off it’s either REALLY bad or it’s totally misrepresented by the title. I do the same one man show stuff with my little 225 dual sport bike. Perfect way to move things around without bothering anyone. My dog used to eat everything there was besides maybe lettuce. Sadly she was attacked by a pitbull Thursday and I had to put her down Sunday from some complications that resulted. But she was 13 and had a good life.
@FarmlessFarmer-xs1he I think you and I are the odd ones that have an attention span a little longer than that of a gnat and watch a video all the way through. Some videos I just don't watch due to the perceived-content not being of interest... and that depends upon who is delivering the content. I've watched one chainsaw person go get a haircut and another go get the Mail... and I'd watch it again!! Speaking of your little Dual Sport (Is that what we called and "ENDURO" when I was younger) I knew a guy that would drive two semis at once... well kinda. He was hauling grain from field to bins; he put a 10speed bike on the catwalk and would drive a full semi to the bins, ride his bike back to the (now full) semi in the field, and so on and so forth. That was 30 years ago; not the semi has a mount on the front bumper to hold a "mini bike" for the same purpose. It's amazing that *some* people (such as you and me) will attempt to find a way to work harder while others will do their darndest to find a way to keep from working at all. Sure sorry to hear about your pooch; they are a sho-nuff part of the family, ain't they!! Mine will eat lettuce too... and celery. The only thing I've found that he didn't like was barley-pop. He actually worries me a little bit; there was a mushroom growing in the edge of the yard y'day that would have been deadly... he wasn't eating it, but it made me think that I might find that he's poisoned himself eventually. Where I'm at, there's absolutely no way to keep harmful stuff out of reach of him. We'll just hope he's a little smarter than that and hope that he is only eating the oddball stuff because I am. Mutts is NUTS!!!
Yep. Some of those bikes used to say enduro right on the side of them up into the 80s. Then later on in the dirt bike world the term enduro kinda became the 2 stroke bikes that weren’t intended for full out racing. They’d have a non DOT approved head and tail light most of the time but no blinkers or horn or any of that. Somewhere along that timeline is when they started calling what used to be the enduros of the past Dual Sports. Most being mediocre at best on the street or the dirt, but they have always suited me quite well. Some people actually put more effort into not working than people like us do into working. Just makes me shake my head and I might get a little hot about it once I see how much is taken out of my paycheck while they get free healthcare and food stamps and whatever else. There are people that stuff exists for legitimately, but there are an awful lot of moochers and sponges out there too. All we can do is keep doing what’s right for us in our hearts.
@jamiewykes8585 Thank you for the feedback!! I like making this style; it allows me to share a though-process (of which I'm not prepared to make a video or implement at the moment) that someone can give me some feedback or point an error in my thinking. It's the only way I know to share it with the "few" that watch most of my videos without freely giving to those who only watch portions of my videos looking for content for THEIR videos... I dang sure ain't going to charge someone (Patreon or such) for the "privilege" of sitting through my meanderings. Those, like you, who are always here, are the people with whom I want to share these thoughts!! Thanks for being here!!
Talking theory while doing other work seems absolutely genuine, like having a conversation with a buddy. I have a similar theory as to the peek free rev rpm being limited by exhaust roof, and “dynamic” compression. I’m not sure I can articulate it well, definitely not an expert, but have put more than my share of idle thought to it while driving. On 4 stroke, you can build a 13:1 that will run on 87 octane, IF your lobe centers are in a way that provides overlap enough to actually spill out that mathematical compression in dynamic operation. In my mind, that’s like having a high exhaust roof, less actual compression time and less degrees of power applied to the piston, but plenty for high rpm work. I like how you are explaining the lower exhaust roof, will have higher compression and then be a force that has to be overcome on each rpm, that stacked force creates our max achievable rpm with the physical build of the motor. I see what you are saying, more mass on the flywheel here may result in a higher RPM, can’t wait to see that test! How do we get both? Where is that magic sweet spot where we make max torque with high rpm, then how do we broaden that peek power into a wide band? Is this what the 200T does? What wizardry makes it happen? Is intake runner length a factor? Or the ported piston with open transfer design?
@Archer_82 I think the maximum rpm would be the mass of the flywheel; to much, and I believe it may actually run away until the parts begin the disassociation process. I have a 1-1/2 HP McCormick engine that is "hit and miss"; the "little' engine weights a couple hundred pounds. They are low RPM and the intake valve is governed to only open when it drops below a certain RPM; under a BIG load, it will fire with every power stroke; under no-load, it may only draw intake charge and fire every 30 revolutions. If the governor fails, those engines will begin a dynamic expansion process that tends to scatter parts over a broad area. On a saw, before that happens, I think one would have an unsafe saw to run, in that it would take an unsafe amount of time for it to return to idle and take forever to reach working RPMs. Conversely, I consider, (to the extreme,) that the rotating mass could get light enough that it BARELY bets the piston to TDC and thereby only able to get the RPMs to a couple hundred. I'm not sure what kind of voodoo is inside of a 200T as I've never personally had one in my hand (stock or otherwise); I merely used it as an example because it seems to be one of those saws that runs like a scalded dog and nobody know (or is sharing their knowledge) why. You're sure spending your time thinking, though!! Having conversations like this in a hay video reminds me of sneaking a little chaw backy out behind the barn... seems a little sneaky!! I like it!!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1I have seen the oil burning hot and mis engine, that run the leather belts to drive machinery, outstanding older technology and built to last and be repaired. I had thought that the “UA-cam” theory on exhaust roof was that higher roof made for higher rpm at the cost of torque, lower roof, helped keep torque high, but limited upper rpm, or settled the saw at a lower rpm in the cut. Now, we both know that not all UA-cam theories hold up, I had tried to justify this with the slowing of the rotating mass further with the longer degree of compression, while holding exhaust gas in the chamber until after useful expansion. This combination then causing lower working rpm. I may be completely wrong. I do see how adding significant mass here would overcome some of the slowing by compression, lending to higher rpm… every little thing on these saws just has a cascade of effects.
@Archer_82 You're right along the lines of my thinking. *IF* (and it's a big if) we can liken the low high exhaust roof to a short barrel on a 357, there's plenty of waste going on; conversely, a very low exhaust roof would be like a 30" barrel... fire's all gone and then it's just friction. In this "theory", I'm partially relying on the fact that we could harness another couple of degrees of burn (due to assuming the factory thought we could us it, and therefore make the roof right there). I wasn't necessarily trying to use a heavier flywheel to overcome a lower exhaust roof... it was more to overcome excessive compression (a problem which "we" created during our time monkeying around inside).
I enjoy the ride along! The flywheel weight will be very interesting to see tested and I look forward to it. Adding weight in theory should increase torque which should increase hp if rpm remains. Definitely if you can increase rpm.
@andrewgrubb8947 Thanks for the feedback on the type of content... I think the RPMs gained will be associated with losing LESS speed on the compression side of the stroke. I'm hoping to run a lower (higher number BTDC) exhaust roof and gain the RPM of a higher exhaust room. I just don't want to make a saw that takes 5 min to wind down. We weighted a flywheel in a motorcycle once; if you cracked it and wasn't in gear or something, it seemed like it took FOREVER to spin back down to idle; made a heck of a hill-climb bike though.
I’m sure as weight is increased time to full rpm and time back to idle will increase. Fortunately you have the dyno and the capability to test where the fine line will get crossed. You mention that this saw may well live in the dyno but if this works I’d like to see it cut some wood as well. Curious what the cut factor will be as well. Look forward to more. Have a good one!
@andrewgrubb8947 By "live on the dyno"; I mean to say it will probably never be earmarked for a work saw; it will dang sure hit the wood pile. Speaking of that, I actually need to get some cutting time shown on the 026. Pretty much, the dyno lets me know what SHOULD be going on; I do considerable cutting with it also to make sure the curtains match the drapes... so to say; I need to trim something ELSE out of the video(s) and make time for a cut or three on a more-frequent basis. I love the feedback; I know that ain't *necessarily* what you meant, but it does remind me that I, also, like to see a saw cut.
No townships in our 64 Louisiana parishes but we do have towns, settlements and villages. Only one town is the “parish seat” where the courthouse and main government offices are located. Town of Clinton in East Feliciana Parish is the parish seat. We have “parish roads”, about half are paved. The parishes are divided into “police jury” districts which might be our version of a township. Sorry for the geography lesson. Fun show as always THANKS
@saltrock9642 THANKS for the geometry lesson (not autocorrect... I just HATE using the correct word iffn there's one that close *AND* makes me look like a moron 🤣😉) I never knew how other States' were divided, subdivided, then further subdivided all the way down to the Parcel. Here, it's State, County, Township, Range, Section, and then Parcel. Towns/cities may very well fall into multiple townships; are biggest town (2 sq miles and @4k people) is situated in two different townships. There's a town about 40 miles from here (also smallish... 4-5k people that is actually in 3 different counties (parishes for you); it's a legal nightmare for jurisdiction. One town is served by three different County Seats. Glad to hear out of ya; was hoping I didn't bore you to the point of abandonment!!
@saltrock9642 It's a dang good thing I didn't take my computer to the front porch to sip a barley pop and "talk" to people... you'd've had my head swelled up like a poisoned rat after THAT kind of compliment.. I may have had to sleep outside tonight!! 🤣😉 Of course, as much as I tend to pick on my bride... sleeping outside is ALWAYS a possibility 😇🙄
@robbevington1754 Thanks, thanks, and tell me about it!!! If you hear the "dog barking" sound on my phone; that was an alarm to restart the camera every 5 minutes. I think I finally got THAT part figured. Thanks for the feedback about mixing farming and chainsaws!!
Keep hiding the good stuff. Sometimes it's easier to talk theory without a specific chart or part to distract from the conversation. I agree about the flywheel momentum. Should be interesting to see what shows up on dyno.
@Kevin.L_ Sound good!! It's actually easier to go off on a mental trip while doing something mundane such as loading hay; I also think it *may* be easier to listen if there's something going on in the background that doesn't split one's attention too bad. It may be difficult to load a flywheel very much due to current design; I think we can do it though!!
@Kevin.L_ Oh boy, I know how it is!! Before I retired, I would spend many hours per day driving between here and there. I've spent many hours doing mental gymnastics on a long daisy-chain of an idea only to be interrupted and have my mental etch-a-sketch get all shaken up so that I could start all over!!
@jasentonguepowersaws4206 Boy, you said a mouthful there!! For the past 20 years it's been "I don't wanna work and you can't make me!!" I lost video of my square baling operation, but I've got some more recorded that needs edited. It will show how I've mechanized to allow me to put up 5-10K square bales by myself each year. Speaking of Labor... even the managerial positions, I'm on a Board and attracting/keeping a manager is a yearly or semi-yearly undertaking... and it's not a dangerous position, in a poor environment, etc... Of course, colleges teach that, if you don't change jobs every year or two, you become stagnant. No longer are the people with a loyal mentality who are willing to work for a loyal employer... it's all about becoming bored or stagnant among those who will even work. Boy, you hit one of my hot buttons, didn't ya?! Sorry about the tirade off thru the rhubarb.
I have thoughts but not sure how accurate they are. I think the flywheel weight isnt particularly important concerning max power output. It is a storage mechanism so i dont think it will allow anything extra. If you make it lighter your power stroke accelerates faster and your compression stroke decelerates faster. If you make it heavier your power stroke accelerates slower and compression stroke decelerates slower. Piston movent from combustion pressure drives the flywheel so for the flywheel to store more power you need to create more power from the rest of the system. I think your power output is more related to cylinder pressure@crank angle@rpm. I do like the inertia thoughts when directed toward air mass though.
@Super-Dave-Outdoors Your consideration(s) is/are spot-on , I think. I know, if I were to be intellectually dishonest with myself, I *COULD* prove my theory by doing a faster dyno run and making some of the inertia LOOK like HP... I ain't into THAT. I'm just curious and had a thought that I want to try sometime. My consideration could be boiled down to a higher compression (than that for which the saw was designed) would possibly take a heavier mass of decrease the deceleration and therefore raise the working RPM some... in other words, offset some of the potential and unrealized gains which remain unrealized from raising compression. I'm fully aware that I may be on a fools errand, though!! One thing that I am confident... the work to add mass to the flywheel will not be worth the gains... IF there even are any.
All the thinking is good, sometimes i have to get the thoughts out of my head and onto some paper before i realize i am barking up the wrong tree. I think whatever you gain in working rpm from flywheel mass would only be momentary. First inch or few in a cut. I think gains in compression typically equates to gains in combustion pressure. To a certain extent, at that point i think it switches to thermodynamics and there is more math involved than i comprehend.
@@Super-Dave-Outdoorsreading this and combining with some of my own excessive overthinking, that may be completely off base, what if the exhaust roof is low enough that there is excessive slowing on upstroke, but also low enough that all relevant down force from expansion is spent prior to exhaust port opening. Then, would the increased mass provide a positive effect on each rpm, releasing that stored energy in compression, accumulating to elevated in cut rpm? Is that even a possible, that the exhaust port open after useful expansion has occurred? Is this actually able to be measured?
@Super-Dave-Outdoors There would be an absolute gain in the first inch or two of the cut; I had planned on running the dyno "backwards" to attempt to quantify any gains. Making the run from low RPM to high would remove the effect of stored inertia. Of course, then you are lowering the result due to the fact that reverse runs required the saw to make power to the chain while also putting part of the inertia into the flywheel. There's no way to get rid of (either) gains stored or the losses of storing inertia. I don't think a heavier flywheel will show ANY gains (after the first couple of seconds) on an unmodded 2 stroke; I think the compression is going to need to be higher-than-designed by a fair factor before the heavier flywheel would be needed or any gains realized... something like when Dyno Joe makes a 2-piece head. I consider that, the only time a heavier flywheel is needed is during increased compression or if a lighter flywheel was used by the engineers to keep a saw in-check. There's a good chance I'm slick-treed though!!
@@Archer_82if all the pressure is spent before the exhaust opens then that is your limiting factor, not the flywheel mass. At that point the exhaust needs to be higher, accessing more rpm and creating more power. All thinking is good, the flywheel conundrum has to deal with energy cannot be created or destroyed, if your flywheel creates more energy than what you transfer to it then you win physics and solved the world energy crisis at the same time!
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Looks like Kix is learning nicely. I agree with yiu on the weight of the flywheel. If anyone has any doubts as to how critical flywheel weight is, take the blade of your Briggs and Stratton powered push mower and give it a crank and see what happens. There's videos telling how to replace the starter rope if you do! LOL.
@garrettray568 Always!!! You know you're welcome whenever... I'll even feed ya after you've put in a good day's work; having ribs tonight. Will have to send you a picture of Reba; I thought she was just a TomBoy, but I'm beginning to wonder.
I enjoyed the video, Ya pooch too !! Still above my head on the saw stuff !! Like the one man operation !! Turnip eatin Pooch , haha love it !! Take Care !! That Ford looked Ram tuff !!
@jamesconn7311 Aw heck, inertia is inertia whether in a chainsaw, the flywheel on a baler, the flywheel on your ol' pickumuptruck.... Turnips??! Can you believe it!! He is a dang goontard; he has bonded with me to the point I have to be extra careful; he will eat jalapeno potato chips with me. The only thing he doesn't like is a core's road soda (spelled it wrong so the tube police don't shut be down for not bei ng family friendly); good thing he don't like wobble pops and chaw backy; my habit is expensive enough!!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1 Yes Sir !! A man has to be careful how He says stuff anymore , someone might get HairLipped , i mean offended !!
I like the idea of hiding saw talk in the hay field. It’s the perfect plan.
@FarmlessFarmer-xs1he Good deal! Thanks for the feedback... you, for one, I *KNEW* would watch and catch the nuggets 😉!
I’ve only ever turned off a handful of anyone’s videos in my life. If I turn it off it’s either REALLY bad or it’s totally misrepresented by the title.
I do the same one man show stuff with my little 225 dual sport bike. Perfect way to move things around without bothering anyone.
My dog used to eat everything there was besides maybe lettuce. Sadly she was attacked by a pitbull Thursday and I had to put her down Sunday from some complications that resulted. But she was 13 and had a good life.
@FarmlessFarmer-xs1he I think you and I are the odd ones that have an attention span a little longer than that of a gnat and watch a video all the way through. Some videos I just don't watch due to the perceived-content not being of interest... and that depends upon who is delivering the content. I've watched one chainsaw person go get a haircut and another go get the Mail... and I'd watch it again!!
Speaking of your little Dual Sport (Is that what we called and "ENDURO" when I was younger) I knew a guy that would drive two semis at once... well kinda. He was hauling grain from field to bins; he put a 10speed bike on the catwalk and would drive a full semi to the bins, ride his bike back to the (now full) semi in the field, and so on and so forth. That was 30 years ago; not the semi has a mount on the front bumper to hold a "mini bike" for the same purpose. It's amazing that *some* people (such as you and me) will attempt to find a way to work harder while others will do their darndest to find a way to keep from working at all.
Sure sorry to hear about your pooch; they are a sho-nuff part of the family, ain't they!! Mine will eat lettuce too... and celery. The only thing I've found that he didn't like was barley-pop. He actually worries me a little bit; there was a mushroom growing in the edge of the yard y'day that would have been deadly... he wasn't eating it, but it made me think that I might find that he's poisoned himself eventually. Where I'm at, there's absolutely no way to keep harmful stuff out of reach of him. We'll just hope he's a little smarter than that and hope that he is only eating the oddball stuff because I am. Mutts is NUTS!!!
Yep. Some of those bikes used to say enduro right on the side of them up into the 80s. Then later on in the dirt bike world the term enduro kinda became the 2 stroke bikes that weren’t intended for full out racing. They’d have a non DOT approved head and tail light most of the time but no blinkers or horn or any of that. Somewhere along that timeline is when they started calling what used to be the enduros of the past Dual Sports. Most being mediocre at best on the street or the dirt, but they have always suited me quite well.
Some people actually put more effort into not working than people like us do into working. Just makes me shake my head and I might get a little hot about it once I see how much is taken out of my paycheck while they get free healthcare and food stamps and whatever else. There are people that stuff exists for legitimately, but there are an awful lot of moochers and sponges out there too. All we can do is keep doing what’s right for us in our hearts.
I like this style of video
@jamiewykes8585 Thank you for the feedback!! I like making this style; it allows me to share a though-process (of which I'm not prepared to make a video or implement at the moment) that someone can give me some feedback or point an error in my thinking. It's the only way I know to share it with the "few" that watch most of my videos without freely giving to those who only watch portions of my videos looking for content for THEIR videos... I dang sure ain't going to charge someone (Patreon or such) for the "privilege" of sitting through my meanderings. Those, like you, who are always here, are the people with whom I want to share these thoughts!! Thanks for being here!!
Talking theory while doing other work seems absolutely genuine, like having a conversation with a buddy.
I have a similar theory as to the peek free rev rpm being limited by exhaust roof, and “dynamic” compression. I’m not sure I can articulate it well, definitely not an expert, but have put more than my share of idle thought to it while driving. On 4 stroke, you can build a 13:1 that will run on 87 octane, IF your lobe centers are in a way that provides overlap enough to actually spill out that mathematical compression in dynamic operation. In my mind, that’s like having a high exhaust roof, less actual compression time and less degrees of power applied to the piston, but plenty for high rpm work.
I like how you are explaining the lower exhaust roof, will have higher compression and then be a force that has to be overcome on each rpm, that stacked force creates our max achievable rpm with the physical build of the motor. I see what you are saying, more mass on the flywheel here may result in a higher RPM, can’t wait to see that test!
How do we get both? Where is that magic sweet spot where we make max torque with high rpm, then how do we broaden that peek power into a wide band? Is this what the 200T does? What wizardry makes it happen? Is intake runner length a factor? Or the ported piston with open transfer design?
@Archer_82 I think the maximum rpm would be the mass of the flywheel; to much, and I believe it may actually run away until the parts begin the disassociation process. I have a 1-1/2 HP McCormick engine that is "hit and miss"; the "little' engine weights a couple hundred pounds. They are low RPM and the intake valve is governed to only open when it drops below a certain RPM; under a BIG load, it will fire with every power stroke; under no-load, it may only draw intake charge and fire every 30 revolutions. If the governor fails, those engines will begin a dynamic expansion process that tends to scatter parts over a broad area.
On a saw, before that happens, I think one would have an unsafe saw to run, in that it would take an unsafe amount of time for it to return to idle and take forever to reach working RPMs.
Conversely, I consider, (to the extreme,) that the rotating mass could get light enough that it BARELY bets the piston to TDC and thereby only able to get the RPMs to a couple hundred.
I'm not sure what kind of voodoo is inside of a 200T as I've never personally had one in my hand (stock or otherwise); I merely used it as an example because it seems to be one of those saws that runs like a scalded dog and nobody know (or is sharing their knowledge) why.
You're sure spending your time thinking, though!!
Having conversations like this in a hay video reminds me of sneaking a little chaw backy out behind the barn... seems a little sneaky!! I like it!!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1I have seen the oil burning hot and mis engine, that run the leather belts to drive machinery, outstanding older technology and built to last and be repaired.
I had thought that the “UA-cam” theory on exhaust roof was that higher roof made for higher rpm at the cost of torque, lower roof, helped keep torque high, but limited upper rpm, or settled the saw at a lower rpm in the cut. Now, we both know that not all UA-cam theories hold up, I had tried to justify this with the slowing of the rotating mass further with the longer degree of compression, while holding exhaust gas in the chamber until after useful expansion. This combination then causing lower working rpm. I may be completely wrong. I do see how adding significant mass here would overcome some of the slowing by compression, lending to higher rpm… every little thing on these saws just has a cascade of effects.
@Archer_82 You're right along the lines of my thinking. *IF* (and it's a big if) we can liken the low high exhaust roof to a short barrel on a 357, there's plenty of waste going on; conversely, a very low exhaust roof would be like a 30" barrel... fire's all gone and then it's just friction.
In this "theory", I'm partially relying on the fact that we could harness another couple of degrees of burn (due to assuming the factory thought we could us it, and therefore make the roof right there).
I wasn't necessarily trying to use a heavier flywheel to overcome a lower exhaust roof... it was more to overcome excessive compression (a problem which "we" created during our time monkeying around inside).
I enjoy the ride along! The flywheel weight will be very interesting to see tested and I look forward to it. Adding weight in theory should increase torque which should increase hp if rpm remains. Definitely if you can increase rpm.
@andrewgrubb8947 Thanks for the feedback on the type of content... I think the RPMs gained will be associated with losing LESS speed on the compression side of the stroke. I'm hoping to run a lower (higher number BTDC) exhaust roof and gain the RPM of a higher exhaust room. I just don't want to make a saw that takes 5 min to wind down. We weighted a flywheel in a motorcycle once; if you cracked it and wasn't in gear or something, it seemed like it took FOREVER to spin back down to idle; made a heck of a hill-climb bike though.
I’m sure as weight is increased time to full rpm and time back to idle will increase. Fortunately you have the dyno and the capability to test where the fine line will get crossed. You mention that this saw may well live in the dyno but if this works I’d like to see it cut some wood as well. Curious what the cut factor will be as well. Look forward to more. Have a good one!
@andrewgrubb8947 By "live on the dyno"; I mean to say it will probably never be earmarked for a work saw; it will dang sure hit the wood pile. Speaking of that, I actually need to get some cutting time shown on the 026. Pretty much, the dyno lets me know what SHOULD be going on; I do considerable cutting with it also to make sure the curtains match the drapes... so to say; I need to trim something ELSE out of the video(s) and make time for a cut or three on a more-frequent basis. I love the feedback; I know that ain't *necessarily* what you meant, but it does remind me that I, also, like to see a saw cut.
No townships in our 64 Louisiana parishes but we do have towns, settlements and villages. Only one town is the “parish seat” where the courthouse and main government offices are located. Town of Clinton in East Feliciana Parish is the parish seat. We have “parish roads”, about half are paved. The parishes are divided into “police jury” districts which might be our version of a township. Sorry for the geography lesson. Fun show as always THANKS
@saltrock9642 THANKS for the geometry lesson (not autocorrect... I just HATE using the correct word iffn there's one that close *AND* makes me look like a moron 🤣😉) I never knew how other States' were divided, subdivided, then further subdivided all the way down to the Parcel. Here, it's State, County, Township, Range, Section, and then Parcel. Towns/cities may very well fall into multiple townships; are biggest town (2 sq miles and @4k people) is situated in two different townships. There's a town about 40 miles from here (also smallish... 4-5k people that is actually in 3 different counties (parishes for you); it's a legal nightmare for jurisdiction. One town is served by three different County Seats. Glad to hear out of ya; was hoping I didn't bore you to the point of abandonment!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1 you are much too intelligent and interesting to be a bore. Thanks for all you do, my buddy. 💪
@saltrock9642 It's a dang good thing I didn't take my computer to the front porch to sip a barley pop and "talk" to people... you'd've had my head swelled up like a poisoned rat after THAT kind of compliment.. I may have had to sleep outside tonight!! 🤣😉 Of course, as much as I tend to pick on my bride... sleeping outside is ALWAYS a possibility 😇🙄
Hay ride was fun saw talk was great , camera sucks 👍
@robbevington1754 Thanks, thanks, and tell me about it!!! If you hear the "dog barking" sound on my phone; that was an alarm to restart the camera every 5 minutes. I think I finally got THAT part figured. Thanks for the feedback about mixing farming and chainsaws!!
Keep hiding the good stuff. Sometimes it's easier to talk theory without a specific chart or part to distract from the conversation.
I agree about the flywheel momentum. Should be interesting to see what shows up on dyno.
@Kevin.L_ Sound good!! It's actually easier to go off on a mental trip while doing something mundane such as loading hay; I also think it *may* be easier to listen if there's something going on in the background that doesn't split one's attention too bad. It may be difficult to load a flywheel very much due to current design; I think we can do it though!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1 I do my best thinking while driving. Keeps me from getting distracted. Unfortunately I forget most of it before it's of any use.
@Kevin.L_ Oh boy, I know how it is!! Before I retired, I would spend many hours per day driving between here and there. I've spent many hours doing mental gymnastics on a long daisy-chain of an idea only to be interrupted and have my mental etch-a-sketch get all shaken up so that I could start all over!!
@@HayChaffandSawdust1 Mental etch-a-sketch! You nailed it.
About as reliable as your DJI gear.
Everything I do is a one man show. Just can’t find anyone these days that wants to work
@jasentonguepowersaws4206 Boy, you said a mouthful there!! For the past 20 years it's been "I don't wanna work and you can't make me!!" I lost video of my square baling operation, but I've got some more recorded that needs edited. It will show how I've mechanized to allow me to put up 5-10K square bales by myself each year. Speaking of Labor... even the managerial positions, I'm on a Board and attracting/keeping a manager is a yearly or semi-yearly undertaking... and it's not a dangerous position, in a poor environment, etc... Of course, colleges teach that, if you don't change jobs every year or two, you become stagnant. No longer are the people with a loyal mentality who are willing to work for a loyal employer... it's all about becoming bored or stagnant among those who will even work.
Boy, you hit one of my hot buttons, didn't ya?! Sorry about the tirade off thru the rhubarb.
I have thoughts but not sure how accurate they are.
I think the flywheel weight isnt particularly important concerning max power output. It is a storage mechanism so i dont think it will allow anything extra. If you make it lighter your power stroke accelerates faster and your compression stroke decelerates faster. If you make it heavier your power stroke accelerates slower and compression stroke decelerates slower. Piston movent from combustion pressure drives the flywheel so for the flywheel to store more power you need to create more power from the rest of the system.
I think your power output is more related to cylinder pressure@crank angle@rpm.
I do like the inertia thoughts when directed toward air mass though.
@Super-Dave-Outdoors Your consideration(s) is/are spot-on , I think. I know, if I were to be intellectually dishonest with myself, I *COULD* prove my theory by doing a faster dyno run and making some of the inertia LOOK like HP... I ain't into THAT. I'm just curious and had a thought that I want to try sometime.
My consideration could be boiled down to a higher compression (than that for which the saw was designed) would possibly take a heavier mass of decrease the deceleration and therefore raise the working RPM some... in other words, offset some of the potential and unrealized gains which remain unrealized from raising compression. I'm fully aware that I may be on a fools errand, though!! One thing that I am confident... the work to add mass to the flywheel will not be worth the gains... IF there even are any.
All the thinking is good, sometimes i have to get the thoughts out of my head and onto some paper before i realize i am barking up the wrong tree.
I think whatever you gain in working rpm from flywheel mass would only be momentary. First inch or few in a cut.
I think gains in compression typically equates to gains in combustion pressure. To a certain extent, at that point i think it switches to thermodynamics and there is more math involved than i comprehend.
@@Super-Dave-Outdoorsreading this and combining with some of my own excessive overthinking, that may be completely off base, what if the exhaust roof is low enough that there is excessive slowing on upstroke, but also low enough that all relevant down force from expansion is spent prior to exhaust port opening. Then, would the increased mass provide a positive effect on each rpm, releasing that stored energy in compression, accumulating to elevated in cut rpm? Is that even a possible, that the exhaust port open after useful expansion has occurred? Is this actually able to be measured?
@Super-Dave-Outdoors There would be an absolute gain in the first inch or two of the cut; I had planned on running the dyno "backwards" to attempt to quantify any gains. Making the run from low RPM to high would remove the effect of stored inertia. Of course, then you are lowering the result due to the fact that reverse runs required the saw to make power to the chain while also putting part of the inertia into the flywheel. There's no way to get rid of (either) gains stored or the losses of storing inertia.
I don't think a heavier flywheel will show ANY gains (after the first couple of seconds) on an unmodded 2 stroke; I think the compression is going to need to be higher-than-designed by a fair factor before the heavier flywheel would be needed or any gains realized... something like when Dyno Joe makes a 2-piece head. I consider that, the only time a heavier flywheel is needed is during increased compression or if a lighter flywheel was used by the engineers to keep a saw in-check. There's a good chance I'm slick-treed though!!
@@Archer_82if all the pressure is spent before the exhaust opens then that is your limiting factor, not the flywheel mass. At that point the exhaust needs to be higher, accessing more rpm and creating more power.
All thinking is good, the flywheel conundrum has to deal with energy cannot be created or destroyed, if your flywheel creates more energy than what you transfer to it then you win physics and solved the world energy crisis at the same time!
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Looks like Kix is learning nicely. I agree with yiu on the weight of the flywheel. If anyone has any doubts as to how critical flywheel weight is, take the blade of your Briggs and Stratton powered push mower and give it a crank and see what happens. There's videos telling how to replace the starter rope if you do! LOL.
@MikeLouder1 Thanks for joining-in Mike!! Good thing about removing a blade from a brigg and scrapiron mower, it still cuts nearly as good 😉
Let me know if you ever need a helpin hand. Im about done staring at a computer screen for work all day, wanna be with animals and nature
@garrettray568 Always!!! You know you're welcome whenever... I'll even feed ya after you've put in a good day's work; having ribs tonight. Will have to send you a picture of Reba; I thought she was just a TomBoy, but I'm beginning to wonder.