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Pretty cool 😊

Such a great video! Learned quite a bit. Does Keller still make shells for Gretsch? I have a USA custom built in 2020.

Thought I was subbed, wasn’t but took care of it!

Can't ever go wrong with a 6-lug snare. They have some awesome tone. I've got a few WFL and Trans Badge 5.5x14's and a WFL 6.5x14 6-lug which is crazy good. The old Ludwig 1920's NOB 2-pc snares with 6-lugs are awesome as well and sound way bigger than they are. My 4x14 sounds like a 6x14 and my 6.5x14 sounds like an 8x14. They did something right back then!

Thank you! There's a reason why so many drummers used Rogers back then. I still own a late 70's Rogers XP8 kit.

I don’t get the hate. I have a 90s era DW collectors kit and it sounds amazing. All the early SJC kits were Keller too.

FRED GRUBER, Don Lombardi‘s drum teacher was grooming Don to teach his method to teach Freddys method. Freddy was one of the first and main shareholders in Drum Work Shop. Just ask Don!

I bet you didn’t know that the “round turret” tension casing Originally started life as a bracket for the bass drum shell mounted cymbal holder. It bolted to the top of the bass drum. it had one channel running through it, and the “L arm” that held a cymbal was attached to the turret, by means of a s”T”screw. Designed by GEORGE Way it is featured in the back of the 1952 or maybe it’s 1951 lead catalog the one with the orange color. It was a simple holder mounting bracket in its first incarnation that you didn’t know that.

I bet you didn’t know that the “round turret” tension casing / lug Originally started life as a bracket for the bass drum shell mounted cymbal holder. It bolted to the top of the bass drum. it had one channel running through it, and the “L arm” that held a cymbal was attached to the turret, by means of a s”T”screw. Designed by GEORGE Way it is featured in the back of the 1952 or maybe it’s 1951 lead catalog the one with the orange color. It was a simple holder mounting bracket in its first incarnation that you didn’t know that.

Nice work, thank you.

Great piece ! The research and knowledge you pass along is amazing . Thanks for the history .

Great video, thanks!

Great video. Very informative! Those drums sing!

4 drums, a couple cymbals, tons of sound! BEAUTIFUL!

I’m off tomorrow to check out a Corder kit.

The tv transition was great, what program? The chain pedal was Elvin and Billy? At FI’s ?

Great presentation! It’s so hard to get any info on drum shells of the past!

What a fantastic drum cover . I first heard this tune in the German detective serial " Der alte" ( The old fox) in the early 80s . Was totally hooked to the piano part and floor tom beat that started after the 2.05 minute mark and always wanted to know where it came from as the serial credits did not disclose this song. Loved it and well done 😊

I have a Ride cymbal I want them to design. I own 22 Sabians. 11 HHX and the rest are AAX. My hihats are sound edge Paiste

I just got the pleasure of getting one 20’ medium 30th anniversary. 1906g. I took all my other Cymbals away temporarily to hear this master sounding rich wash of a ride, with drums. 🎶😊🥁. I bough it from Chris Hawthorn @hawthorndrumshop in Pittsburg PA.

Wow, very interesting story! Cool Ronn! 👍👍

Pretty sure Keith Moon was using calf skin on the Who's La-La-La Lies

A comparison between Mehmet and Agop cymbals please

E.X.C.E.L.L.E.N.T!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eddie this is a great interview man! I have profound respect for RD and have checked out his drums through and through.... All I can say is George would be proud! The hoops even have the tell tale rounded over tall design. In this day and age, where everything is made cheap, that is not the case with Geo Way drums. Worth every penny. Cheers mate!

very interesting, thanks for this video

Almost 5 minutes of history, NOT on drums. REEDONCULOUS!

Keller is an awesome company, and they build very consistent shells, but they've had their share of undeserved bad press. There was a time when the phrase "Keller-shell kit" was practically a 4-letter word, denoting a cookie-cutter, amateur-built kit. In fact, DW's BEST drums were built during their Keller shell era, IMHO. In the early 2000's, when I was heavily involved in the drum industry, I was at NAMM, speaking to my good friend Joe Montineri, at the Keller booth about shell design and Keller quality. Joe was in charge of their R & D at the time, and helped develop VSS and the Vintage series. Our conversation was overheard by Keller President Dr. John Hudson, and when I got back to NY, he had already called me. To make a long story very short, Dr. Hudson hired me as an industry "spy" of sorts, to find out why Keller's reputation had negative connotations amongst drummers, and to attempt to dispel these unsubstantiated myths, so I was on the Keller payroll for almost two years. It has been great to observe how they bounced-back from that "dark era", and are still the Gold Standard amongst shell makers. They also did a line of Acrylic shells at one point, as well as carbon-fiber lined thin maple shells. They are NOT afraid to experiment! 💖

where can I find a tom mounting bracket like that? (ultra magic)? thanks ULTRA MATIC!!!

I pratice on my 3005 Sonor with 14 cymbals, 10 are Sabians AAX and sometimes I join a garage band were they have a Ludwig complete set but I always take my AAX cymbals because they sound great to all the band members and I couldn't agree any better, Ps: wish I could purchase a AAX 20" ride Thank you Sabian for making the best cymbals!!

I love it when people shine a light on the behind the scenes heros. Keller doesn't get the credit they deserve.

Really nice video. I have the same drum (though 5.5 instead of 6.5) and it's definitely one of the best sounding drums I own. I love the Modern Vintage heads on it but I bet calf would sound super nice as well.

thank you i needed this for a school project.

Like your Rogers kit.....My good friend Bob Crelin,is the designer.....

I had a 1920 Black Beauty.....$100 in a pawn shop.....Sold it for $500 5 years later...Wish I had it now...............Ralph Onofrio.

Excellent comparison, really insightful and clearly recorded differences ...

I am an Aquarian guy and I really like the Modern Vintage and American Vintage heads but I will say in this demo the calf skin wins ... I just bought a set of Earthtone calf heads and I'll see who those work. Thx for a great video

I have several of the Traditional line, hats (16") and crashes (19" Med, 18" Paper Thin and 18" Dark). I also have a Sultan 21" Jazz ride.....which I love. I have a 19" Sultan crash which is a bit too heavy, if I use it at all it's as a crash ride. These cymbals are really amazing.

I have owned both drums.....Tuning range is the only problem with 6 lug snare drums.I used the Luxor in several shows...

Beautiful Rogers! I just got a 68 dyna-sonic in blue sparkle. What a beautiful snare!

Have you ever tried the Mantra 22" ride? Every demo I've heard sounds incredible, I play rock and it's checks all the boxes for me. I've been a "Paiste guy" my whole drumming life (since '99) but brands don't matter, what my ears hear it what matters. Great videos, love them all! Thanks!

Took a tour of the Gretsch factory about a decade ago… Fred Gretsch actually purchased all the Jasper shell molds when they closed and was going to make their shells in house again. The machinery was just too old/rough to set up to get working, so they then partnered with Keller who built molds specifically for them to keep the specs the same (the classic 6 ply Gretsch shell is 1/16” larger than most other brands) I’m sure those machines are still sitting in the Gretsch drum factory to this day… that place is a hoarders paradise for all the different brands Gretsch owned and produced over the past 50+ years!

My first kit in blue sparkle back in the mid seventies I beat the life out of that kit!

...AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!

This guy is a genius. These kits and his snares all sound unreal. Please, 1 request, new lug design!!! Not nearly as bad DW turret turdy lugs. Amazing kits otherwise, but GW’s only bad idea

About 35 years ago, just for fun, I bought a thin maple Keller snare shell for like $40 with bearing edges and beds cut. Was a great experience, but after trying everything, I could never get it to sound how I wanted. I think went too thin, no re rings, trying to copy starclassics when they came out. Flawless shell, I’m redoing it now actually for the 3rd time, about to sand through the outer layer lol. Trying some new ideas to try to get it where I want it. About 5 years later, I built a 4 pc thin maple shell kit. It flooded in Katrina, still has mold stains in a few spots. Never delaminated, stayed round. Sanded mold off, treated it, stained it a little darker, they sound great. I had spent little money but now had a 100% maple kit. If you do buy shells, keep in mind all the drum companies get the lovely grain patterns so don’t expect a mind blowing pattern on all drums. Didn’t bother me. Started with die cast hoops but I hated them. Drums are BIG and still sound great. I built some RIMS mounts and Ft legs and brackets as well. Shells are good quality and must be really killer today. So many more options. Walnut is my next one! 2 gripes: BD hoops were a little flimsy. And the mahogany shells need some mahogany! I could build drums forever. Got 3 snares in the works, and one is 6mm carbon steel!!!

Z custom forever )))

Rogers and Camco were hardware companies. They did not make shells.

The 23, great sparkle with good control... didn't wash out

I had an Orange County Drum and Percussion set custom made in 2003 before they were sold. They were made using Keller shells great sounding and looking drums.

One of my local drum shops here in Canada, has a used George Way aristocrat bop kit in natural maple gloss. The sound of the 18x14 blew me away at how huge it sounded, and can easily be tuned to sound like a 20x14 and possibly even tightly muffled 22x14. Beautiful looking and sounding drums..