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Building Project Tactics
Even over a 100 year timeline, we're at a unique point of high-costs in the construction world.
To bring a building project to life (in this historically expensive construction market), it means that we have to balance priorities against what we can afford to invest, while seeing enough of a return on the back end.
We can't simply spend more on the same projects as 3-5 years ago, if we don't have the revenue to support it.
In most cases, revenue hasn't risen as fast as the rate of inflation in construction.
As a result, we've been developing tactics that work in this market.
Projects have gotten smaller, because one of the fastest ways to spend less is to simply build less.
We have to look at real estate and existing buildings differently, because their value is so much more in relative terms (re-using existing buildings is also one of the most-green things we can do).
Most importantly, more and more complimentary and curated development pieces are being put together, in order to make the financial numbers work.
This helps bring more people into facilities, which is turning spaces into community spaces rather than stand-alone and extra-specific businesses.
The bottom line is that to make the investment to open a business location worth it, we have to do different math than even a few years ago.
It's not that we should sit back and wait, we just need to look at the whole picture.
More in the video.
Check out my FREE guide "How To Build A Climbing Gym: 9 Key Lessons To Move Your Project Forward";
www.chrisryanstudio.com/9keylessons
If you liked this content, and you're committed to moving your project forward in the next 6-12 months, then go ahead and get in contact with me here;
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @dmitrysemenov9218
    @dmitrysemenov9218 10 днів тому

    Amazing info, thanks!

  • @jorgecantera7161
    @jorgecantera7161 10 днів тому

    Bidenomics at work!!!

  • @delanezdelanez5253
    @delanezdelanez5253 11 днів тому

    Wages are increasing because the laws and regulations on living life in urban environments requires a lot more money to live. Properties are built without garages, requires hiring a landscaper for the yard, vehicles are more expensive, utilities are more expensive.

  • @larrymccue8097
    @larrymccue8097 12 днів тому

    It's the climate you want to worry about

  • @dxw5795
    @dxw5795 Місяць тому

    Wow, thank you for being brutally honest and unapologetically vocal! I am an old architect getting close to retirement age. Yes, architects eat their young. It's sad to see this practice still being very much alive and well in the industry. Best wishes to you and your practice, Chris.

  • @abrahamtzm3783
    @abrahamtzm3783 2 місяці тому

    this is coming handy for my climbing gym architecture project

  • @nicolascano3880
    @nicolascano3880 2 місяці тому

    wow... this is so helpful, i don't even speak very well english but everything was so clearly. Pls continues doing it

  • @olanatridapalli
    @olanatridapalli 3 місяці тому

    thank you for the amazing lesson! it inspires me to work even more in the world of climbing!

  • @thomasshpakow7598
    @thomasshpakow7598 4 місяці тому

    Great video! Finding the sweet spot of the Hedgehog Concept!

  • @tyronelaces8690
    @tyronelaces8690 5 місяців тому

    I went to the knot! It was really cool! As i was passing through the town i didn’t download the app so i just climved the tunnel. Was a great time overall. Fun bouldering

  • @emirsarisac2233
    @emirsarisac2233 5 місяців тому

    Your videos are so helpful and enlightening. Thank you for your effort.

  • @douglasbubbletrousers5622
    @douglasbubbletrousers5622 5 місяців тому

    What is the debt serice ratio projections at full maturity that you are seeing recent projects at?

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 5 місяців тому

      It's tricky, because everyone comes to projects with wildly different situations. Some have cash, some don't. Some have a building they have access to, some can't find a space. Some are new businesses, some are existing and growing. Some can pay very high rent with higher returns, and other people can't make that work. All of those factors mean that it's all over the place, but if you have a lot of debt, you better have a very high-producing business model, which a lot of the facilities I work on simply cannot do, given market comparisons (or simply what they want to charge their customers). So there's no right or wrong way for any of these pieces, but my position is that they all have to work together when they balance out.

  • @KilterClimbingGrips
    @KilterClimbingGrips 5 місяців тому

    KI also has a relatively small part of the gym that is just for the National team most of the time. Not sure the back end of that but could be worth looking into as a model.

  • @thomasshpakow7598
    @thomasshpakow7598 5 місяців тому

    I've been following the story. Thanks for sharing, it's nice to hear a developers perspective on the situation.

  • @lucasrivera1488
    @lucasrivera1488 6 місяців тому

    you’re absolutely right and clear. Understanding cost and yield always helps inform the design.

  • @KellerBi3r
    @KellerBi3r 6 місяців тому

    I love this. Honest, truthful, and to the point. Great content. Cheers

  • @Dave-zk5ni
    @Dave-zk5ni 6 місяців тому

    Nice video, Chris! Achieving a competitive outcome that balances business and personal goals with budget absolutely requires the iterative design and planning process you've described here.

  • @ThibaultCharbonnier
    @ThibaultCharbonnier 7 місяців тому

    I think you missed the point Chris... It isn't the walls or their features, it is the setting style. My gym still has the same walls it had back in 2010, and it still lost its soul because the setting style changed (what the article alludes to). The walls are mostly empty, the holds are big and high-profile, look pretty but don't really allow for more than a couple climbs per section and aren't doing a great job at mimicking outdoor climbs, they mostly look like competition climbs. Overall there is a lot less creativity and uniqueness in climbs than there used to be 5 years ago. It's not the walls, it's the setting style and type of holds the gyms are going for.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 7 місяців тому

      Fair enough. As a 40+ year old dude, I don't run and jump on climbing walls very much, and miss the density of setting as well, so I totally agree with you on that. A lot of my projects these days include conversations about how to meet in the middle, to give space for that while also more "open" styles of setting/ climbing/ training with more holds and options, etc... Especially in small facilities. I'd say it may be both aspects (as someone who makes the facilities), and I agree with you that setting has changed for better or worse.

  • @LadyFoxHound
    @LadyFoxHound 7 місяців тому

    as an architect whos been in the profession for 20 years, No. If there is anything else u can do or enjoy doing do that. The ffield of architecture is problematic in many ways and u dnt make a lot , u have a lot of liability, lomg hours, YEARS that go into “moving up” the corporate ladder, as a woman in the field that also comes with some issues, its expensive in school and after. If it was the way its sold to u in school it would be one thing but its not, its a lot of business, meetings, liability, contracts, coordination, a very small percentage of what you do on a day to day basis is design.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 7 місяців тому

      I'd say that I agree with your assessment, which is why I don't practice that way (after working in "traditional" studios, as well as design-build businesses; and the topic of professional practice is something I've taught for years in universities and studied quite a bit) because I agree with you! My work is entirely focused on helping clients develop projects, then document and execute with larger teams, which I'm aware is more akin to development than the day to day practice that most architects deal with. Thanks for watching.

  • @user-ux9iv9sh2p
    @user-ux9iv9sh2p 7 місяців тому

    How can I find someone who can just help me do my floor plan ideas in a CAD program. I don't have plans to build yet so I just wanted to spend maybe $200. Thank you

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 7 місяців тому

      You're probably going to have to find someone like a student who wants a couple bucks, because you're just not going to get much for $200. Depending on what you need, suppliers and vendors can help you with some drawings and layouts (kitchen suppliers for instance will often help with cabinetry/ kitchen layouts). So depending on what you need, there may be more than one way to slice it.

  • @lucasrivera1488
    @lucasrivera1488 8 місяців тому

    This is solid.

  • @johnnyonthespot4375
    @johnnyonthespot4375 8 місяців тому

    An item that never gets covered about this Sphere -- The electrical cost to keep this thing running. It HAS to be insane for that power cost and that is a monthly insanity in perpetuity for this to operate. I do not care how efficient it is - That is a lotta lights.

  • @DanielDez
    @DanielDez 9 місяців тому

    I hope we can all appreciate how you discussed the 'game design' of climbing competitions while Chris Danielson wore a "TETRIS since 1984'" t-shirt. Did he do it on purpose? Tetris itself has seen countless variations (even other classics like Dr. Mario might be called a Tetris spinoff) while still maintaining the core game mechanics - which is precisely like climbing. I also wonder if Danielson considers himself a game designer, because he absolutely is!

  • @henrymunnich1648
    @henrymunnich1648 9 місяців тому

    Overall I believe that the obscured sightlines add to the experience by having private pockets of climbing, not seen by the entire gym. Experiencing Brooklyn Boulders for the first time I immediately noticed the clear sightlines. But- competitions feel like a bit of an oversight because of the lack of sightlines. If you have the chance, check out "MBP Boulderfest Live Stream 2022" to see what I am talking about. Spectating from the back of a crowd felt like I was fighting against the space. This facility totally inspired my obsession with climbing construction/manufacturing. I lived 5 min away from MBP, so listening to your take on the building is cool.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda 9 місяців тому

    Chris,Bravo-amazing video-work! see you later! )

  • @hidupsehat4704
    @hidupsehat4704 10 місяців тому

    Great video, clear explanation !

  • @kelvindoesarchitecture6793
    @kelvindoesarchitecture6793 10 місяців тому

    Great video! though I think you talk more about intentions and parameters than story/storytelling. "needing to be cheap" can be part of the story but idk if that's what you want the final design to express. I take narrative design more as an aspect you want to make obvious in your building, a house telling the story of its owner's childhood, a memorial telling the story of a ritual, or a store telling the story of its ethos. nevertheless, final products should express intentions without words, which I definitely agree with.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 10 місяців тому

      Thank you for tte comment, I appreciate it

  • @TyroneShulaces
    @TyroneShulaces 10 місяців тому

    this was helpful, thank you for these videos!

  • @TyroneShulaces
    @TyroneShulaces 10 місяців тому

    love your videos, would you be willing to make a video going over calculating costs and breakevens, using your previous projects as examples?

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 10 місяців тому

      Good idea, I'll add it to the que.

    • @TyroneShulaces
      @TyroneShulaces 10 місяців тому

      @@chrisryanstudio I'd appreciate that! I live in a very populated area, with zero climbing gyms around for a while, but I have found clear demand. Cost of living is very high to me, looking at the numbers can get overwhelming...

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 10 місяців тому

      Check out this link@@TyroneShulaces, it has a bunch of information, if you haven't seen it yet. Also, feel free to reach out, because the short answer is that it depends on balancing all the costs to startup and build out and lease expense your revenue expectations, so the math is very different for everyone, but that's exactly why we need to look at all of if from the very beginning, so we actually can answer that question you've asked, because it's really the one that matters! www.chrisryanstudio.com/howtobuildaclimbinggym

  • @samsheepdog697
    @samsheepdog697 10 місяців тому

    damn you really like to sound like mr smartypants. Said absolutelly nothing man

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 10 місяців тому

      If you'd like more information, you should check this out. www.chrisryanstudio.com/howtobuildaclimbinggym There's only so much to say in a video.

  • @chrisnguyen3647
    @chrisnguyen3647 11 місяців тому

    Question for you. As the global lending market has tightened up. Any suggestions on how to fund a building project/ indoor bouldering gym?

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 11 місяців тому

      The short good news/ bad news is that without a history of profitable operation (2-3 years typically), you won't be able to get a 'traditional' bank loan. You have to go the SBA route (which is what the SBA program is for), but very often it's friends and family, or I like to say, one circle wider than that. People your friends and family know, but you have to be careful and organize your project well to get the money in the door. Take a look below, it's a free PDF that goes into a lot more detail about investors and the whole project development process. www.chrisryanstudio.com/howtobuildaclimbinggym

  • @jakemaranzatto6514
    @jakemaranzatto6514 11 місяців тому

    I climb here often, it's so cool to see the evolution of the design and the early sketches

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 11 місяців тому

      Nice! I'm glad you enjoyed it, I know I always like behind the scenes material!

  • @paulseibert6046
    @paulseibert6046 11 місяців тому

    Happy Birthday Phil!

  • @daZache04
    @daZache04 11 місяців тому

    Great insights from an architects perspective! Really enjoyed watching this. I was recently offered to put the olympic bouldering wall in my new gym. One of their selling points was that they would provide the 3D models from the comps and you could recreate those boulders in the gym. Intriguing, but very impractical. Besides from the effort of placing holds precisely you also need to own the exact holds and volumes. Anyways, when I looked at the wall (in several different colors schemes) I wasn't really into it but didn't know why. In hindsight I think it was those weird color breaks that just add confusion.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio 11 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comment, and I've also been very dubious regarding "repeated" climbing walls, that seems like the opposite of why climbers (or surfers or skiers) travel to the edges of the world to find something "new". I don't think it's much different for climbing gyms, because for anyone old enough, you've been in a town when a new gym opens, and the new walls are super exciting to climb on! I get it that some things need to be standardized (tracks and some courts for instance), but baseball stadiums are unique and that's why people travel to see each one. I would argue that the real opportunity is doing something amazing and unique, not copying something else or making very "flat" walls and painting them (like I go into in this video). So I'm with you and I'm dubious! I'll be doing a video on this specific topic soon.

    • @daZache04
      @daZache04 11 місяців тому

      @@chrisryanstudio I totally agree with you! I think here in the Philippines people would actually really fall for the olympic wall allure because they're so far from the international scene. I still didn't see it as enough of a reason. It also would have been a squeeze to fit into our 500 sqm location and would have prevented us from a more open floor plan. I'm a fan of simplistic walls but also appreciate good variety and really like your designs that you showed in the videos. Here we have to stick to simpler walls due to cost and having it to assemble ourselves. Looking forward to your video on the topic!

  • @G_A_B_E_L
    @G_A_B_E_L Рік тому

    He was a really special guy, we dated in the summer of 2015, and I still miss him. Thank you <3

  • @jakedye172
    @jakedye172 Рік тому

    Im 20 years old, love climbing, but my closest gym is a half hour drive so i end up not going as much as i want to. I hope to reach out to you in the coming years once i save some starting capital to build my own gym, i dont know if i could make it happen without guidance and you seem so knowledgeable. Heres to hoping i can make it happen

  • @BOBBOB-tx7ox
    @BOBBOB-tx7ox Рік тому

    I have been a licensed architect for 35 years and I run my own small design office. There are way to many architects. Most clients really don't need an architect, they just need a contractor and some drawings of an owner's design, proof of this is the built environment. Architects are needed to take the liability, and the state requires somebody to stamp the plans to take on that liability. Architecture school is a waste of time because you have to be retrained to work in an architects office after you graduate for school. Most schools concentrate on design and theory, 99.9% of all the students that graduate will NEVER design anything unless you open your own office. Almost 100 % of my architectural friends say Architectural school was a waste of time but it was fun.

    • @jeanpaul4100
      @jeanpaul4100 Рік тому

      I would argue every project needs an architect, just look at the built environment. As far as school is concerned many of my classmates went on to become outstanding designers. Some world famous now.

  • @33Donner77
    @33Donner77 Рік тому

    Your views of schools and making money as an architect are correct. If one eventually manages to open an architectural office, you may submit many plans and estimates to potential customers, but get hired for few projects. Some students may think they will be the next Frank Lloyd Wright or Mies van der Rohe, but even they had money problems. Becoming a project manager and working with the contractors is one option.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      No kidding... I'm continually surprised that the AIA seems to be making things even more confusing for both the public (AIAS for instance), and your professionals. There's really not much honest conversation, which is a bummer, because there ARE ways to be a happy Architect, but it isn't by sitting in someone else's studio for 80 hours/ wk for 60k/ yr.

  • @joaoserrano550
    @joaoserrano550 Рік тому

    I was part of EASMUS exchange program from one year in Univerisity of Liecthenstein (Principality in Europe). The fees are low, the quality of teaching is has good as any Swiss high renowned University (ex: Zurich or Mendrisio), and you have a good life in the Alps for the ones who like to like closer to Nature with a small intimate group of students.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      That sounds delightful! You mention teachers, and I do think it starts at the top, because I've seen teachers be the worst offenders and most competitive people at graduate schools, to the point where I've directly disagreed with what my students are saying they were told. My message is always, "look at that person, and be careful who you take advice from", because if you don't like their way of being, the advice may be more poison than productive. Thank you for sharing!

  • @julianbektashi5050
    @julianbektashi5050 Рік тому

    NO.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      It's a bummer, because if you went to Architecture school, it was because you like architecture, right? There are so many ways to be involved in the industry beyond that one avenue (which can be a better work/ life balance), and I wish we talked about that more!

  • @PaulKassabian
    @PaulKassabian Рік тому

    Great thoughts Chris...and you have a terrific manner of explaining this to everyone!

  • @keyshaameliaputrii8567
    @keyshaameliaputrii8567 Рік тому

    Work 100%

  • @iamthekwan
    @iamthekwan Рік тому

    Nice video. I hope to be able to reach out to you in the next 5 years.

  • @z1522
    @z1522 Рік тому

    Some observations, from surviving climbing for 55 years - before real gyms, we scrounged, "buildered" outdoors and in, around churches, campuses, stairwells, largely under the radar because it was certainly illegal. When gyms appeared, they were labors of love - dark, small, cloistered weird sanctuaries where holds and routes were primitive. As competition and popularity grew, facilities became more elaborate, extensive, and for most of us, more than adequate to satisfy our cravings. Oddly, the boom contributed to the explosion in sheer numbers of "climbers" with less and less actual outdoor familiarity. When your "Church" is the actual outdoor cathedral, it's no surprise that the artificial indoor chapels inspire little spiritual awareness. The complex answers to "Why do you climb" shifted from using movement on climbs as a physically transformative process to intensify one's sensitivity to the world, to prosaic replies like "to send the gnar, bro, to get worked, to get dates, etc." The Bar ambience crept into the meditative scene, and the only way to get back some of the old vibe, is to check your ego, arrogance, self-absorption, petty motivations at the door; make new friends outside your "profile," redpoint grade, gender comfort zone, and maybe dare to head out to some seriously nice, but nowhere near competitive crag. Taste the "brave smell of stone," relax, have fun.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Good advice and thank you for watching! I remember when I moved to Colorado and we used to traverse campus buildings in the late 90's, so I always think that I had a taste of what 90's climbing "gyms" were, which in my world were really garage gyms and co-ops, with the occasional 30 ft tall gym, which was always wild to see! Places like Go Vertical in Stamford CT, the Boston Rock Gym, and eventually the Boulder Rock Club (pre renovation) blew my mind in the 90's, so I'm incredibly grateful to be able to work on these new iterations. With that said... there are indeed some lessons from the past (as there always are). Thanks again for the comment and sharing your story.

  • @DanielDez
    @DanielDez Рік тому

    Love you Chris! I actually wanted you to keep going on the history lesson of architectural visionaries of the late 18th century! I was sad it was so short.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Ha happy to get into it, there's plenty to discuss if it's appealing! Talk soon Dez!

  • @V__RR
    @V__RR Рік тому

    Are there any resources you would recommend to self teach as an enthusiasts?

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Hello there! I've found that lectures online are often a great way to go, specifically from universities who publish their guest lectures as videos either on UA-cam or on their websites. The Harvard GSD does this, as do many other schools. That can spin into it's own exploration really quickly, but just as one place to start!

  • @michaelbarker2276
    @michaelbarker2276 Рік тому

    Great Video! Exciting to see deeper and analogous ideas in our industry.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Thank you Michael, I appreciate the comment and I totally agree! More to come soon...

  • @buford.lizaso
    @buford.lizaso Рік тому

    I’m an aspiring gym owner but have no idea where to start. I have been binging your channel soaking up as much information as I can so I can make informed decisions down the road. Thanks for the content!

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Great! That's why I make it, and thank you for the comment. Reach out if I can help with anything.

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      Reach out if you'd like to chat Buford, I'm happy to give you some feedback, regardless of where you're at in the process.

  • @henrymunnich1648
    @henrymunnich1648 Рік тому

    That hand washing station is genius

  • @henrymunnich1648
    @henrymunnich1648 Рік тому

    It's interesting that you work from home, how does that work when you are in the build phase of a climbing gym? Do you occasionally fly out to visit site?

    • @chrisryanstudio
      @chrisryanstudio Рік тому

      So I've done it several ways. Sometimes projects are local to me and I can be there every day. Sometimes they have been a plane or train trip away, and it is usually a monthly visit when I'm managing it directly. Right at the start of Covid, we built 2 projects I never visited. Ideally, a trip or 2 can really help, but it's not always necessary for new buildings and/ or relatively straightforward interior or renovation projects.