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Thanks for this comment! I'm no expert either, and for me also energy and history are the most important aspects of watchmaking. And yes Arafat is great! If you didn't see my video about the MIH I also met him there: ua-cam.com/video/K3IFTtDS3Cc/v-deo.html

Plus that double barrel movement! I'm still looking!

Thanks! As you may know Gorillas actually have surprisingly nimble fingers: ua-cam.com/video/oZJz80T1JDk/v-deo.html 😂😂😂

Dude, chill. Is just a watch.

At the beginning I mentioned that I was going back to check prices with the vendor from the previous video. That was specifically to check on his Enicar prices! Unfortunately we got started a bit late and he was already gone by the time we went looking for him. I've noticed that several of the watch vendors start packing up as early as 3pm, I think because much of the action at the flea market is first thing in the morning. The serious buyers arrive early for first looks.

The great thing about Plainpalais is it's always open (every Wednesday and Saturday). Arafat only goes when the weather is nice and when he's not traveling, but otherwise you can find him there year round. (There's also a farmer's market on Sunday but it's a different set of vendors.)

Mon francais est parfait!

And BTW, I wrote that myself without google translate!

(I actually assumed it was completely wrong)

@ excellent 👍

Thanks ElderPinto!

Of course they do! Just look at all the Swatches and cheap quartz watches in the suitcases that the two serious bargain-hunting horologists are rifling through at 39:34! 😂😂😂

Yes, it's crazy. I bring my camera to protect me!

Sure, it's in this video at the timestamp of this link: ua-cam.com/video/vl_6Z2M3Vks/v-deo.html

BTW, it includes some of France, Germany, Italy, Holland and Austria in the back of the book, but definitely not all. I think that the individual markets probably have to pay for the listings so there is a focus on important watch fairs but it's not 100% comprehensive, even in Switzerland.

@@IMakeWatches excellent, Thanks man.

Yes, and the businesses, including the flea markets, are all catering to rich tourists. The one advantage here is there are more vintage tools here than the market can absorb, so if you are into watchmaking as a hobby or as a student it can be fantastic for tools.

​@@IMakeWatches , Agreed, the best flea market for me was in NY Manhattan back in the days, people down to earth really cool watches nice prices, they used to rent out parking garages on weekends best days 😂 but no good watch tools ,just a simple stuff .

@@alexkastano96 I was there. I lived in NYC from 1984 - 2000. My first roommate in NYC was obsessed with the parking lot flea markets and we used to go all the time. There was also a huge indoor flea market in Chelsea that he took me to once. I don't know what the economics of that was because retail space was not cheap - it may have been a space like the space that Sam Flax was in that was rented out to a parking lot flea market while it was in transition or up for rent -- like the Halloween stores pop up in vacant retail spaces. Are you still in NYC and is there anything like that today? I go back regularly but I haven't seen anything. Lots of empty retail though!

Yes, and watch my video in a second window while you're on Ebay (for the atmosphere!)

Thanks! Yeah, I've got much better gravers now, and sharpeners, and a cross slide! I think it's fun to focus on firsts. That gives me an excuse to why my videos are so bad! But I'm secretly getting better at everything! 😂😂😂

Just looked at your channel and saw you also filmed some of you casting firsts! Nice!

@@IMakeWatches gotta start somewhere!! :) i'll be bingewatching your other video's soon, i think i'm behind!

Ha! I have a braille watch too. An Arsamatic with, I think, an ETA 2742 (in any case it's an ETA automatic). I haven't opened it yet but I'm curious to look at the cannon pinion and seconds arbor. Since it's an ETA even though it no longer has a seconds hand I can easily replace it back to a normal set of hands and dial. I just have to find some other reason for the pop-open crystal. Perhaps a skeletonized ETA 2841 with no dial at all would be fun to put in that case. Pop it open and you're looking right into the heart of the movement!

I agree!

Or I could have kept it for 20 years and sold it for many multiples of that. That's the main point about gold watches. The investment value of the gold is the same whether it's in the form of a watch or bullion. No one should melt these things down!

Nice info! Thanks for sharing! I didn't know about the Farve Leuba double barrel movements! Just looked that up on Ebay - must have! I'm going to have to visit that vendor again with my case back opening tool and some cash!

@ Yeah, they shifted to ASchild i (I think) the mid sixties, I have a lovely one of those. Also some say FL are older than Blancpain....😉

oh sorry you already know everything, I was just so excited to see a Ginsbo;-)

Yes, I'm a Ginsbo fan too! Most of them that I've seen are built like tanks and the long relationship with the tunneling and construction company Marti speaks to their durability as its workers need the toughest watches made.

I agree. I've always wanted an Advisor. But what does NFS stand for?

I do. Feel free to email me for the info!

@@IMakeWatches email sent

@@IMakeWatches Hi, I sent you an email but I haven't received a reply.

@@8ttiknio8 I replied to Adrian at the rogeraroger address on Nov 25. Is that not you?

It's a fun flea market but there's usually only three or four watch vendors - my friend Arafat, who appears in the Horlo'troc/MIH video, the old guy in this video, and a couple of other old guys. Several of the general antique and junk vendors also have a few watches, but not big collections. It's not Le Landeron (which is only once a year), but it is twice a week (Saturdays and Wednesdays). Give me a shout if you make it over in December!

@ Appreciate the information. I will be in Geneva from 27th of December until 29th.

@@theshadowman1398 Saturday the 28th should be a good day for Plainpalais! If you'd like to try to meet there leave a comment or email me a few days before!

I know what you mean. A friend of mine once asked me which watch I would buy if money was no object. I answered that I'd first buy a storage facility the size of a football stadium and then I'd buy all of them. 😂😂😂

I just looked at those. I've never seen those bright green and blue-green dials in Switzerland. But some of the non-florescent ones in bad shape are probably legit, but they were sold to Indian market so they're probably not the best quality even if they are legit. (Not that the one in this video is any better. It would be hard to say without seeing the movement.)

@@IMakeWatches True, I definitely see a lot of really nice vintage great condition watches coming out of India on Ebay at about 30% of the ask price of every other dealer not in India or China. I am highly suspicious

Wrong! They just buy more expensive watches! 😂😂😂

@@IMakeWatches also true lol

I know. I had to.

Can you get the case open?

It helps to film it! Keeps me too busy to buy anything!

Yes, Taiwan!

Sure! With the flea markets and watch fairs some vendors size you up before giving you a number but when they make the price public so do I.

@@IMakeWatches Love the market stuff, at least your camera doesn't induce movement sickness.

Thanks Andy. If you do at some point let me know during the planning stage so I can let you know what's happening and give you some tips based on season. First tip would be plan some time in La Chaux-de-Fonds and Le Locle. Second tip would be spend at least two days in the mountains in the Interlaken / Grindelwald / Lauterbrunnen area!

Thanks!

Yes, the Ghost in the Shell VFX team was supervised by the amazing Guillaume Rocheron! He's the best! Life of Pi, Ad Astra, 1917...

I know! And the crystal on the first one is perfect. That's important with those odd-shaped crystals. Next time I'll ask how much that is if he still has it. What's your guess?

@@IMakeWatches £140

@@jamesblonde2271 I'll see if he still has it on Wednesday (just to check the price). I think it'll be less than that.

Thanks! That was my first long form video with my iPhone. I'm getting better as I make more videos "out in the world," but it does take some practice - and there's always room for improvement.