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I enjoy SOD its not perfect but having alot of fun
Seems like no one loves Paladin, maybe Blizzard should delete the class then?
@@burnsilog3226 how?
Holy weaving spec? 😊
They should've done this months ago
You actually got to raid as shadow?!
Yes! I do think its less of a meme. Although, clearly you have better pure dps specs.
What lock spec is best for raids is it destro?
You have SM Ruin or DS Ruin. Depends on what you prefer imo
I'm playing SOD since day 1 and still active on it. I'm raiding every week. I'm still having fun despite some bad things. I still dont know where it's heading tho, since it's a "seasonal"' server but blizzard recently said they have no plan to shutdown it. So what is their plan ? Migrating to a real "classic +" once it's ready ? It's very intriguing.
This is best case scenario. I hope they don't go to TBC
I would play SOD if they add arena hehehehe
@@PauloZionlight would be a good addition
It needs Arenas and RBGs.
If you need any spriest tips let me know. Most people think its just rotation.
@@matthewjohnson2488 what tips would you give?
Just running the numbers, smitepriest is stronger than shadowpriest. (even if you calculate 100% uptime from impr.shadowbolt) roughly 17% more overall dmg. (with proper debuffs on the boss ~ not that smite would be "good") yes, it gives shadowweaving, but that also can be done by another healpriest. shadowpriest simply lacks a spamable spell. mindflay is shit. simple shadowpriest is a pvp specc. if you wanna do it in PvE, i´ll say, do it. Enjoy the game.
Smite priest is indeed better dps, Just happens to be that the only reason i'm allowed to dps is because I bring shadowweave since hte other healers don't want to do it lol
Little SOD video, next video will be about my first run in MC as a shadow priest lol.
Druid S tier
I’m torn on shadow or shaman mainly enh or ele lol but I’m more towards PvP also
I would be shaman if I was horde. BUT, i'm alliance. Shaman seem so fun in pvp too.
If you want to do damage in pvp while also being able to heal play shammy. Shadow priest go oom pretty quick
First raid tonight without any good gear.. wish me luck.. and consumes lol
"fun while levelling" isn't a good metric I don't think. You'll spend 2 - 5 weeks leveling (depending on how sweaty you are) and then you'll spend a year + playing it in end game content. It is the year + that matters in the long run.
To be fair, not alot of stuff would be high in raids mate. There are like a few exceptions that are ''fun'' to play in raids.
I do apologize but I have to strongly disagree with you. Warlocks Mage's and shadow priests are S TIER PLUS when comes to wpvp still appreciate your efforts you doing for the wow community 👍
There is always space to disagree on mate! I personally think phase 1 with limited gear, they are way more manageable imo.
Rogues are S for dungeons. Interrupts are insane.
Agree.. most fun runs I like 1x war 2 x rog 1 x sham and me Holy Priest
Bro pls make overview of feral druid p1 gearing. Like which order to run dungeons, tips, what trinkets to pick up from quests( rune of captain, skull, pouch - rep + xp while leveling etc). Buy devilsaur or mount etc. Basically general tips and overview.
Good idea
This enhancement shaman tank disrespect will not stand
I respect it, It can be a tank, just I think it's WAY more niche than prot pala, that should tell how impopular it is to play.
@@ThoGreyClassicoh yeah for sure it's in no way better than any other tank at all but is a fun challenge.
After dungeon grinding all the way to lvl 60 on my priest, here is what I found…. Best group comp was caster/aoe group… Best Tank Paladin Best DPS mages & warlocks. All healers viable
Great assessment. Finally a Paladin tank enjoyer
Ppl make tierlist on a 20y old game that has been re re re released 100 times bro icant 😂
And yet, you click on it.
And luckily, this tier list is subjective and not a hard truth. Opinions are everchanging ;)
I like you content, dont listen 2 haters @@ThoGreyClassic
Videos like these is why people only choose a few classes
Always choose what you find fun. Told it in the video aswell
Hey man! Thanks for the video. Im still kinda new to WoW, so I have a question to Warlock. What spec would be the best to go? Demonology, Affliction or Destruction? I didn't really get it. And what do you mean with DS Ruin? What is that exactly, :D appreciate any help. @ThoGrey Classic Guide
Yea I think all dps are A tier. Tank and good healer are only mandatory.
Shadow priest is insane for dungeons. Insane off heals and mana so chill for a healer. Also druid heals over time and thorns are amazing for tank healing tanks ill love you
Shaman is really fun and diverse. And once u get windfury and full sm gear you are op af
I really can't decide between shaman or hunter and it's making me fall behind. Any thoughts?
@@projectundrfire booth are fun. and have good melee wombo combo. shaman is really diverse class to play. booth are nice. mybe u could do hunter in myst of panderia because then parry and dodge start affecting even range classes. i will make tier list soon
@@projectundrfire if you plan on doing lots of endgame content but dont wanna get stuck healing then go hunter. However if you want the better classic experience I personally think shamans are all-around more fun cuz of their class identity and gameplay options.
Beo i think I'm about to reroll. Priest healing is so boring to me now. Retail healing is so much more fun. Gonna reroll to hunter and enjoy the game!
Once u get shadow form ans vampiric embrace u gonna be welcome to every group healers will love you
@GamingDualities i don't like shadowpriest game play. Think I'm just gonna reroll hunter and be at the end of the pack lol
@@thelastshallbefirst3653 i just made tier list tomorrow i upload mybe u find it interesting bro. well whatever u find fun and itneresting
only about dungeons, and obviously, it's POV dependant. Like I said in the video, depends on what you are playing but the exercise is, WHAT Specs/Classes do I WANT in my GROUP? And that's how I answer it via this tier list.
Would you say this list is the same if you arbitrarily stopped level 30-40 range to pvp without any desire to hit 60?
HmmmMmmMm, Priest is way lower then, Warrior too. Druid is not that great because you don't have the tools that you would have through gearing / talents. Hunter probably top of the food chain with Rogue still. Warlock depends on faction but missing death coil sucks, and mage would do better but I do think Open world is not the same as duels. But hard to say tbh.
Warlocks are trash against enh shamans
Yeahhh…. Having warlock in B tier is the funniest joke I’ve seen. Can literally fear anything while dots rot your target down. Fear, coil, pet sac, seduce, strong instant cast dots, drain tanking, healthstone, succubus damage is insane… sorry but this list is scuffed.
Drain tanking in wpvp? xd Phase 1 Warlock being stronger than B? Sorry but your arguments are just null. Every class can be having a resume of good points in a vacuum.
@@ThoGreyClassic literally everybody in this comment section disagrees with you. Its okay to be wrong.
@@tcplaya2882 Doesn't work like that, You can't tell things that are all not applicable because in open world, you aren't running around with felhunter all the time, you aren't pet sacc'ing, you aren't succubus'ing all the time. Stop acting WPvP has a perfect scenario every single time. Go watch my duel tier list and you'll understand how I see the classes when things are ''fair''. People act like WPVP is only fair, when as a warlock, good luck when a hunter gets the jump on you, when a rogue jumps on you, when a warrior gets on you. HOW can a class be higher when it gets destroyed by multiple classes itself? Stop acting like a kid and reason with logic. Tell me what happends when a warlock has a felhunter out when a warrior is on him? Those are real situations in pvp. ( also very race dependant, tell an Alliance Warlock to face any Undead Rogue, i'll wait.)
@ lol…. I am an alliance warlock and have fought plenty of undead rogues in world pvp. Sometimes I win, most times I don’t because of will of the forsaken, warriors I absolutely shit on, hunters I haven’t really had a problem with, so since warlocks have one class they are weak against ONLY if they are undead, that puts them in B tier? Makes perfect sense. Also, I only ever use a Succubus because the damage is too good not to. VW is only good for sacrifice since it can’t hold agro for shit and does 0 damage, and felhunter is only good for counterspell.
@@tcplaya2882 I win versus every class, does that make my class S tier? Thats how silly that argument is. You may play versus very bad warriors or rogues? Makes sense.
My god, how wrong are you xD
Phase 1. If you think the gearing doens't matter, then you are clueless.
hunter s? mage and warlock b? what is this guy smoking? i give this list C-
I think you are the one smoking if you think Mage and Warlock in Phase 1 with no gear is better than a fkin hunter. Damn, people can't read the title, nor watch the video to understand the points. Attention span of a little kid.
@@ThoGreyClassic phase 1 includes mc my guy? plus blink nova sapper block has no gear requirements my guy? priest? LOL. every serious and sweaty gamer knows that priest is at LEAST a tier. this list blows outside of identifying that rogue is in a tier of it's own. you almost have said the opposite of the truth.
@@Wduckplay crazy.
Spriest is S tier if you are horde since shaman is only counter. Spriest is unkillable if you are skilled.
All classes I’ve played wpvp very competitively. The absolute best is Frost mage and Feral Druid. I can 1vX consistently with mage and the only hard counter being feral. The ability to down rank for easy shatter procs is broken. If you can’t get your casts off it’s a user error in my opinion.
I think you are wrong about shadow priest… they are top tier one v one in classic.
I mean, In a clean 1V1 Shadow priest is indeed very strong ( Duels tier list ). I do think they BECOME better in later phases. But phase 1 bro.. it's not the same as when we are fully decked out.
Shadow Priests are BEASTS to be honest.
U must have a chicken filet brain
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Rogues bring improved expose.
Looks more like this list is made by someone who read about classic pvp, not played it.
@@989896123 you are crazy. You look like someone that has skipped the video and just saw the placements.
This list just shows a lack of sweaty WPvP play in Classic. S Tier: Rogue, Druid (depending on skill), and Hunter ---> These classes can completely pick and choose their engagements and also get out of almost any engagement that doesn't favor them at almost any time (hunters not as much, but if they have Engineering and know how to manage space really well they can). They also have very good 1v1 matchups vs all the other classes, especially with engineering. A Tier: Mage, Priest, and Warlock ---> These classes are extremely strong and can win basically ANY 1v1 they want with enough skill (especially Priest and Warlock), they only suffer from not having as much freedom in the open world with movement, stealth, etc. The rest don't really need to be talked about. The others are very gear dependent and matchup dependent.
There is no lacking. I've played Hunter , druid and rogue. In reality, the one who engages should win the fight since he is more prepared. I already explained all my placements and feel you disregard most of it. It will always depend on the eye of the beholder on placements because a War will obviously put mage S tier, while a druid sees mages as free food.
@@ThoGreyClassic You prove my point further. Any druid who sees a mage as "free food" hasn't fought a good mage in the open world... " In reality, the one who engages should win the fight since he is more prepared." Not at all. If a warrior gets the jump on 90% of classes he will still lose... Your explanations for your placements are ignorant. The WPvP tier list follows almost EXACTLY the 1v1 tier list for PvP, with the only changes in placements happening for hunter going up and other classes going down slightly. This game has existed for a long time, and the broader PvP community disagrees with you. Also: "There is no lacking. I've played Hunter , druid and rogue." Doesn't mean anything. Just because you play the classes doesn't mean you main PvP on them, nor does it mean you're any good. My time on Classic is almost 100% in WPvP, its the entire reason I play the game.
@@ThoGreyClassic Even the way you describe the priest placement... They're one of the best PvP classes PERIOD. They're one of the best 1vXers AND they can win almost any 1v1 in the game, regardless of whether or not they get the open or not... Seriously. I just don't think you're deep enough into Classic PvP to actually know...
@@ThoGreyClassic "Mage has mostly ok matchups"???? What? They're favored in EVERY matchup except against Warlock and Shadow Priest. Dude please. B tier? There's also no class in the game who 1vXs better than mage...
@@themasterkey3 stop writing a whole bible to me, Druid wins vs a mage. There is no debate
Your opinion ok engy is rarely the case.... yes both parties may have engineering, but not both parties are going to have all of the GNOMISH items equipped all the time. Most engineers onoy use grenades. Most players do not have items like netomatic trink, rocket boots equipped. Especially if hey already have plenty of cc or mobility. They are probably roaming around with dmg trinkets. I always have those items on my paladin for wpvp because ai am missing those abilities from my class toolkit. A rogue already has a sprint, so they are not going to use rocket boots or nifty stopwatch... so when they sprint and i sprint with them i get the advantage because they dont expect a pally to have it.
Yeah, I rate Pally pretty high in regards. I'm leveling as an alt/main btw. Although, I still don't know if I'll level a third class or not. And yes you are right, I try to make it as objective as possible but in general, the one who engages the pvp in wpvp, just wins because likely to be ready to fight too.
In phase 1, I would move druid to S Tier if the player is truly skilled, the same can go for frost mage. Also most average players are going to be destroyed by a good warlock. I understand your reasoning behind the ranks, but I think a lot of it comes down to player skill. Some classes have higher skill floors than others, but some classes have a very high skill ceiling with the right player behind the keyboard.
but.....if all players were hypothetically on the SAME skill level then this chart would be accurate, but I do agree with you 100% on skill level as a skilled D class can smoke an S+ every day of the week.
Skill over everything of course. But it's hard to make a tier list counting on the fact that skill can be different. I had to try to imagine both players being equally skilled, and seeing them at the engager and the engagee. Will never have a 100% satisfaction rate on a tier list like this.
JIM YOU ARE SO RIGHT TY
Hunter rogue and mage are all s tier shaman and warlock and Druid are A tier everything else is B tier imo
@@adamkelly4308 i respect it, why mate on S tier? I feel like what makes mage very good gets countered if you have a mob on you. Feels also that it loses versus pretty much half of the matchups aswell. Rated mage higher on my duelist tier list
@@ThoGreyClassic I didn't really consider preventing the poly and the reset by the mage. B tier makes a lot more sense considering that.