DUAL SPEC in CLASSIC WOW FRESH ( W BLIZZARD )
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DUAL SPEC in CLASSIC WOW FRESH ( W BLIZZARD )
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The video isn't about only reading the blue post, but also giving you examples on how big it benefits classes that want to play multiple specs depending on situations.
ALSO discussing how big the debuff/buff limit removal is.
This is a huge W for blizzard, congrats to us all !
HEY BOSS CAN YOU ASK FOR THEM TO MAKE THE MEETING STONES WORK PLEASEEEEEEEEEE
@@intedinensak453 dual spec ruins classic? 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@coreyells1412 they will not do that I think.
This news just made picking my class even more difficult now, a lot of classes I wasn't considering because of the spec costs for raid/solo specs
dont over think it have fun
Same problems here lmao
The only thing that was stopping me from playing shadow priest, was because I knew I would get stuck healing at some point. Now I can go shadow. Awesome change!
I agree, i m going to get scared of priests :(
@@ThoGreyClassic starting to worry, because the forum mafia is demanding #nochanges lol. Hopefully Blizzard doesn't give in.
@@PrideNverDie Won't happen, I think tehy are pretty committed to going dual spec.
People mad about the buff debuff limit removal are crazy... god forbid a class be played how it was intended without 20 warriors deep wounds knocking off your debuff
10000000%
I feel like this will help so much for dungeon groups more tanks available and people like me who were hesitating to go healer because its not that fun for open world content I can now go priest 100% knowing i can heal in raid and dungeons and still have a shadow off spec for pvp and world farming etc.
this is so game changer !
Yes, totally agree. I’m thinking of going paladin, but was worried about the leveling phase, and open world when I’m not currently healing. Dual spec would help a lot.
10000% at lvl 60 you will have an easier time asell
Absolutely a W. The only arguments I've seen against it is, "it's not vanilla" or "It'll be required for faster clearing and you won't be able to spec how you want." It's your character, don't let your guild tell you how to spec.
For sure a W!
Agree with others, I hope they don’t implement any further changes. The current changes seem like a nice compromise.
I wonder how much BGs will play different with everyone able to play more optimal specs. Swapping to Blizz Mage in AV sounds so fun.
I got everything I wanted! This is amazing! We are so back!
We iz backk
Now I can finally play a Holy Paladin like I wanted but still enjoy the questing part of classic wow.
Yesss
Depending on when dual spec comes live, it’s a bit of an advantage for locks and paladins, since they don’t need to spend gold on a mount.
This man deserves my sub
Thank you mate, appreciate it
What a bunch of crybabies in these comments. The buff/debuff limit was only there as a technical limitation. Do the people complaining about adding it also play WoW classic on a dial up internet connection with 800×600 resolution and minimal graphical settings on a CRT monitor? I'm guessing no. Dual spec is something players were asking for in droves even back in 2005. It is nothing but a convenience, it doesn't change classes in any way. They aren't do anything that changes the fundamental feel of classic. All the weird, unique parts of classic are untouched.
For real man, such little things that just improves quality of life and doesnt kill what classic is. Crazy
HUGE for resto druids, god tier healer now
Awesome that you broke it down like that with the excel sheet
I have unfortunatly no editors to give me beautiful in game examples :"( hahah
Sucks that it’s not in from the start, makes 0 sense that it isn’t, but it’s better than nothing
probably an implementation problem. But it'll be faster than we think.
@ yes thinking about it you could be right, would need to be coded in as it never has existed in Vanilla before. I hope it’s there asap
You kinda dont need a dual spec while you level and I hope there still is a gold cost to be a gold sink. If its 100g might want to get epic mount before etc. So you dont need it at launch
@ some classes dont, try telling a paladin or a priest that.
I think it should be unlockable at level 30 for 50g
I feel like you probably won't even want to spend your gold on it in game until near the time they release it especially if it costs 1k gold
Very nice video :)
Thank you very much!
finally lol this is what i was looking for
I'd love for HC to progress into tbc.
Yeah i d love for you guys too
Add tagging like in retail and the auto group forming tool and we will have the perfect game.This atm is a game mechanic before 20 years
I see I see
Can you do a guide on Feats of Strength that will be retro-activated if the realms progress to WotLK?! pls! (that can be worked on in fresh classic now)
Oh heuu i ll think about it! I personally am not an achievement runner so..
So with no debuff limit how good would lock or spriest be torn on which to go with focusing mostly on PvP but some pve
I do explain in the video. I'd say.. SP is still a bit hard because of mana issues, but MAYBE it will be great with full consumes and ballsdeep gear. BUT SP in PVP is a true menace. Very tanky, does immens amount of damage and fear is VERY strong.
Warlock is going to be very interesting too but atleast in pve your performance is going to be a strong contender. I look forward to seeing it in action :)
If anyone in the comment section can help this man for his decision, that would be great :D
Spriest still has mana issues in raids, BUT the debuff removal helps them more than just giving them their dot to use. EVERY class with dots can use them all with no worries. This will definitely make most fights a good deal shorter than they would otherwise be, and the biggest boon to classes with mana issues is making the fights shorter. So Spriests get double the benefit: Being able to use their dots, and shorter fight times means their uptime is way better.
@@Khelevandrosgood freaking call wouldn’t have thought about that
@@Khelevandros tru
Lock does not have mana issues and u can keep up agony and corruption for a ton of extra dmg, locks will actually do dps now !
Big W
Dual spec is gonna be boss in TBC
Thank goodness I actually want to play the game now
Welcome home.
Where does one go to participate in these polls & discussions?
Reddit bro, classicwow
Hell yeah this is soooo good!
Are you decided on your class?
@ enhance shammy
@@JayTheProduct great choice 😁
To me, the debuff limit removal is absolutely game changing. Every spec that had dots or debuffs they couldn't use just got way more viable. I was already considering it, but this gave me the real green light to go Enhance shaman. It's still not going to top meters, but I love the playstyle, and being able to use both Stormstrike AND flameshock carefree in raids is MASSIVE.
Edit: Also, because every class can use their dots without worry, overall fight time is going to decrease severely, meaning those specs that had mana issues, like ele and Spriest, will have an easier time of it. Doesn't solve their issues entirely, but anything helps
Didn’t think of it like that bro, that is actually awesome. I’m also super keen on playing an enhance shammy but was second guessing myself because I didn’t wanna get stuck having to 100% heal in end game. This helps out massively that we probably won’t HAVE to, and even if we do, we have duel spec!
Looking forward to how the meta will evolve :)
I will probably go Arms leveling then go Deep prot at the beginning of Phase 1 for Molten Core and once I start getting geared switch to Fury Prot and keep Arms for PVP and ranking
massive W
Great decision for a seasonal, one year server. Hoping to see more quality of life.
Its not a 1 year server tho, its a progression server
@@ThoGreyClassicI meant a little over a year for 1.12. Most of these changes were practically only relevant during Vanilla or TBC to an extent.
So there is already wrath server right?
Keep that up.
When seasonal classic goes tbc leave it.
And there is perm classic.
Maybe the next lassic.clasdic classic fresh add sod raids and dungeons.
Not the new dailies.and.farms.
Add talents like sod??
Wasn’t the debuff limit increased in Classic 2019?
Increased but still not enough, now compeltly removed
@@ThoGreyClassic Gotcha! Yeah, the de-buff limit was always just one of those things that existed due to old client code and limited memory.
I’ve wanted to see even more improvements to the classic client than what they’ve done, like with nameplates and draw distance.
nah, in 2019 they upped it from 8 to 16 iirc. now it's just completely gone
BIG W
Will dual spec be a thing in era as well?
nope justa anniversary servers
No
@@ThoGreyClassic ty
This sounds good to me. Is there any more they could change before people start to get really upset? Hrm....
I think thats it imo
Make dots crit too 🎉
Great great great news.
Resto druid inc!!
These three changes are great! A few tweaks might also work (hybrid class minor buffs, prot paladins get taunt, etc.), but it needs to be done with a really light hand and with the original spirit of classic being kept in mind. At this point, I would vote for no additional changes. It sure will be interesting to see what happens though!
The only thing id say could be accepted is maybe a taunt for pala.. but then it is classic+ so... idk
@ had the same thought and internal response haha. It’s hard!
Later date for duel spec? means in blizzard terms that when things start to go bad in subs and players beginn to left from wow classic, then blizzard will release this! Smart of them! probably will it release somewhere 2025!
No. You overexagerate and overthink stuff.
So as a rogue, Combat PVE spec and Coldblood Hemo as PVP spec is nice on swap. Probably will have the pvp one always on when traveling as well. Without debuff cap, Deadly poison > Instant poison. Unsure about rupture because dmg scales with AP while eviscerate is fixed. Might be minor but eventually it should be the better spender after SnD.
Looking forward to see it unfold!
Smite priest with judgement on target and paladin aura lets go 😀
Never seen it!
@@ThoGreyClassic like this. ua-cam.com/video/lYDM8LknT4Q/v-deo.html and this is horde raid :D sure you can find more. as Aly you would have +10% aura + crusader judg - "Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy for 10 sec, increasing Holy damage taken by up to 140. Your melee strikes will refresh the spell's duration. Only one Judgement per Paladin can be active at any one time." - It is not meta, but with nodebuff limit it can be fun
This changes everything!
RIP Alliance will be unplayable in BGs
how does this affect that?
Because of all the new dps shammys or what?
No its an exageration lol
Pally taunt and im in if not no thanks
I think you are out :/
Just come play tho
Cat with wf?????
No :/
This is a good thing. Then again not many classes have more than one spec that is any good.
If you mad about this then get a life. Game has been out for 20 years
For me its 10000x a W
No CLASS BUFF????????????
The debuff limit removal slightly buffs almost all classes save warr and mage so that’s great
Go play sod
Slightly boost rets, shams, spriest ans boomy mana problems and we good
I wish but then its classic+...
this makes the game to easy .not true classic exp.
Killjoy.
W
please just give us tbc talents
Wont happen mate..
@@ThoGreyClassic would be so good tho ):
Duel spec is massive and ensures players wanting to do more of the content. I doubt you will be able to switch in combat however. Say you are out grinding PVE and get ganked and in combat you want to switch to PVP spec i dont think this will be viable.
That has never been the case
Has never been the case, but you can change after a raid boss for example etc. Out of combat
Oh my gosh, come on, leveling you can tank/dps/heal in any spec. This only impacts late levels.
It is fun tanking as fury, healing as a feral druid, classic should be classic.
Well i m talking about lvl 60 so.
ok stop it here.. pls, i'm okay with this but i rlly hope they don't listen any further. don't give classes buffs and nerfs, if ppl want all that shit there's sod and retail and all the other bullshit, let us vanilla enjoyers play vanilla for the love of all that is holy
They’re not buffing they’re improving what was an underdeveloped game when it was released. Vanilla wasn’t properly developed, they had no idea what would be needed and how the game would be played.
They’re testing out the waters for a classic +
Isn’t that what era is for?
You have classic era for that. You can enjoy your 30 warrior GDKP’s over there
I heard they will add paladins and druids new spells. Hope they confirm it
Next: Pally buffs into broken😂
Dual spec and removing debuff limits are way too big of changes. Its not Classic anymore. And I see so many people asking for class buff/nerfs too?? insane.
Class buffs or nerfs is for classic+ but dual spec is nothing man, debuff limit is silly, now classes cna have more buttons if they so desire ( although it wont change toooo much)
1st mistake i wont do again is replay this classic garbage full of bots , rush , and streamer cancer period even with all those new features added.
Just play it mate lmao
I take it back, this is bad for “community”. The idea “Ted isn’t a shadow priest but a priest that can be shadow or holy.. this is no good.
We will wish they rolled this one back.
Also you made a spreadsheet to point out the 3 specs of each class 😂
Laughing so hard at this spreadsheet. Utterly useless 😂
I point out how big it is for people that need to respec constantly. But you know what, get rekt. 90% is happy about dual spec. Adapt or go back to era.
Very disappointing. Really hurts the RPG element of the game.
How?
Lol. You will still respec if you do other stuff in game, relax.
@@DabluCrew because it essentially allows you to swap out your character for another (albeit similar) one on the fly. Respeccing in general is not appropriate for role playing (I think it should be obvious why), but its one step of compromise away from RP and in favour of the min-maxing/game is an optimisation problem crowd. Dual spec is just another step in that direction.
To be fair, as long as its suitably expensive it won't matter too much, its just disappointing that blizzard continually make anti-RPG pro optimisation problem concessions. I like roleplaying games, so I'm always disappointed when they dilute the roleplaying game aspect to make solving the optimisation problem a little easier (as if it wasn't already trivial).
@@Bilessati How much am I roleplaying by being forced to play a 20 year old cookie cutter build?
@@G1nseng you’re not forced to play cookie cutter builds. You might feel that you have to because you view the game to some degree as an optimisation problem, but that’s your own choice. You don’t have to have the optimal build for each, or even any activity that you do. Especially not for pve.
I’ve met warriors that wouldn’t tank leveling dungeons because they were arms spec - the only thing stopping them is of course their own attitude. That’s the same thing stopping you raiding in your pvp or farming spec or whatever.
Gonna completely screw loot distribution with greedy people and their second specs. The flexibility is great, but the availability of it has big implications.
MS/OS, problem solved. I know classic andys are not smart but come on lol
MS/Os has always been a thing. People were respeccing, it costed 50g everytime. It wont change anything except you dont need a farmer anymore to compensate for it lol
@@ThoGreyClassic it’s more that those who tend to stick to one spec will now have two available to them. In a shorter timeline server with many more people competing for OS loot, this will cause loot issues overall.
And who is to say what MS or OS is with Dual spec. What if I switch to dps for a boss fight and dps loot drops, should I roll? I’m normally a healer but I was playing dps. I don’t dislike dual spec but on a short timeline server it causes issues. 2 year standard timeline and it would be way more manageable. Just my 2 cent.
@@bilko3249 LOL, this is a solved issue bro. Ms/OS, if you cant figure it out maybe stick to another game.
@@bilko3249 normally ms / os loot has SR, you cant cheat the masterlooter if he is just "present". Dont overthink it, there are other stuff to overthink, like class choice hahah
Dual spec ruins everything, ppl don't seem to understand the massive impact it will have.
Sad that they let ppl wait for fresh classic for years, and then 3 days before release do a MAJOR change that completly changes everything.
It shows once again that they CAN NOT be trusted. They still did not even tell is the future of theese servers. Complete joke like usual. Back to privserver.
What a loser take
Bye.
Explain the impact.
Love how people say "oh no you dont realise the impact" but seem to forget to explain said impact. Maybe you dont know yourself the impact it has lmao
@@ThoGreyClassic There are so many ways, but the biggest ones will probably be that all the raiders will run around the world in there OP raid sets, but in PvP spec instead of PvE spec, so the entire world will change in that regard. There will be no point to rank 13 or rep AV etc since the PvE gear with PvP spec will be much better.
Every PvP:er must now raid to be able to PvP vs the PvE:ers. Don't you hear how dumb that sounds?
Also every meme spec and hybrid class will be useless, no need for bear tanks or shaman healers etc when a pala or priest can just switch to holy. or a dps warrior can just switch to tank spec.
Even the arena meta will completly change later in TBC due to this.
Theese reasons alone are enough as is, no need to go into every other minor effect this will also have on the world and the economy.
There is nothing classic or vanilla about this.
But aye, wish I could say I am happy for all you guys who wanted to turn classic into something new and more retail like, but I am not. I disslike you all for what you made blizzard do to this game we waited so long to play again.
wtf man? this is not a classic thing. Stop doing retail wow from classic
The de-buff limit was nothing more than a technical limitation. These quality of life changes are nothing but a positive thing for the health of the game.
This has nothing to do with retail. De-buff limits were greatly increased during progressive patches in Vanilla.
Hard disagree, sorry.
It's ridiculous all the people crying online worked, they could have just played SOD or retail but are wanting changes to vanilla makes no sense to me.
@@manimal9871
“Just play SoD or Retail” is a nonsensical argument. Some people just want to play Vanilla with minor QoL updates. These are merely client changes, that have very little impact on the actual scope of the game. Certainly not to the extent of SoD, considering there aren’t class, content or itemization changes.
Classic Era was heavily modified with changes over the years, btw. I would argue that the Boon had a far greater impact that something like dual-spec. Comparing even SoD to Retail is even a far stretch too.
Adding LFG was a no-brainer, the entire playerbase already used Bulletin Board, it should have been added years ago.
@@MikeyJ232
Turn a second spec in a dungeon looks absolutly joke for me especially in classic. It's not a good old gameplay of true RPGs. Maybe it will be less idiotic if you have to turn it on with your class trainer but not anywhere you want.