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Is this satire? Don’t know if to laugh or think I’m listening to my mom?

No, the cables should actually be longer.

@18:28 I would never admit to driving a Tesla 😂

What nonsense. Tesla should provide longer cables.

Get over it!😂

At Tesla superchargers I park at the last charger at the far end. This way I don't block another charger. Even if there is another car there, I ll wait that car to leave. All these when the superchargers are busy. If it's 4 o clock in the morning I don't care, it's only me between 12 or more empty chargers.

However, insurance company don’t take in account active safety features, like auto break…., it’s getting out of control

I think anyone who arrives at a busy charging location less than 1/2 hour before me should pay double 😉

These were fitted in the wrong place, they should have been fitted in the middle of the parking space like others are.

Just Dont Get a Tesla, so many better EVs out there now, Telsa is a horrid company, they take peoples deposit money, after years still not car or deposit back, and its CEO is Racist tyrant.

As a tesla owner i dont mind charging double but there isn’t a way to monitor this, that said Tesla knew this was an issue and still decided to open them up anyway to enhance their revenues and fund more superchargers. We really need some sort of standardisation.

This guy just epitomises the self righteous entitled ev shill 😂

Tesla shouldn’t open up superchargers up until they have upgraded the site with longer cables.

Pretty ridiculous view point my friend. Tesla made the decision to open up their network knowing full well this would be the case with non Tesla EVs. Doing something like charging double for using their network would be counter to the point of opening up the network as most non Tesla owners would not use it then. The real problem is the lack of chargers in general. They need to become plentiful like gas stations for EV adoption to reach full potential.

My Ioniq (28kWh - Can't afford a Tesla) has a left side rear charger. So, you are suggesting I be penalised. Okay you don't want me to use Tesla chargers but you are not specific by manufacturers

No. That’s absurd. They pay a more expensive rate already. Charging them double would make charging far more expensive than gas.

what a snob you are so what you are saying is you should have to pay double when you use a none tesla charger as you will be on the wrong side to charge and if you want to be picky about taking charge time then a fee should apply if you take up a bay but have fully charged and not returned in time as your complaint is about charge time ie hes taking 2 bays so 1 less charger available to charge from

id rather have the Audi, than an Nazi Tesla.

Simple #bocottesla 😐 don't give musk any more money, he's gone insane.

"I'm just being controversial here" - very true and a somewhat disappointing attitude. I don't agree that the left side is the right side etc as charging stations should be designed to accommodate any CCS2 charging port position currently available. You're creating a negative based on Tesla's inability to consider what opening up the chargers to other brands actually means. If they are going to open up some chargers to all they should make sure, before they do that, that the chargers can be used by others without this complication. The fact that, in some cases, Tesla superchargers can't do this, where other operators can, is unfortunate but a result of the charger design which other providers have considered in their design and overcome. I've never had a problem, or seen a problem occur with non Teslas (or indeed Teslas) on non Tesla chargers. I drive an Etron Q8, if I go nose in, the charger port is in the same place as a Tesla, just a bit further away. In most situations, that is fine. There has been one circumstance, in Germany, where I parked lengthways because the cable would not reach in the way (V2s I think) intended. There were 12 chargers and only 1 other car, a Tesla - so there was no issue. I stayed with the car and if the bays had filled up, I would have moved on. I don't know the specifics of the Q4 Etron in the video but it could have been the charger limiting it to 60kW, shared with others, the temperature, the % state of the battery or other issues which are not car related, I drove my q8 Etron 324 miles yesterday, got an average of 2.9 miles per kW. I'm happy with that, given it is on 22' wheels, winter tires and is a large, relatively luxurious car. I charged once, at Ionity in Bristol. I needed 20% charge to get home with 5% and it cost me 53p per kW including VAT (subscription). It actually cost me 44,4p per kW after VAT. The Tesla chargers on the same site and open to non Teslas were 51p per kW rising to 62p per kW inc.VAT later in the afternoon when Ionity stayed at the same price. Also, just to say that I have hired Teslas on many occasions in Europe and the US and their charging performance at Tesla super chargers, and their actual range hasn't been anything to write home about. I tested Teslas before I chose my first EV, an Etron 55 and now the q8 (tested m3, S and X before the S and X went left hand drive only) and now, given recent events, the chances of me owning a Tesla are non existent. Teslas and Tesla Superchargers are not the only answer, as owners/some youtubers seem to think they are - look at the options before deciding. Teslas may be for you, but also, they may not be. Having said all that, and if I was the Q4 driver and the Superchargers were that busy, I'd have gone to Ionity 🙂

I really can't get over the entitlement sometimes. There is no "right side". What there is, is the right cable length. Tesla opened them up, so that's the way it is, they aren't 'your' chargers. They are Teslas chargers - they say who can and can't use them, not you. I have had 2 Teslas over the last 6 years and now I'm in a BMW and I still use Tesla chargers. Yes, it's inconvenient if a car blocks two bays - but that's the way it is. The incessant 'fanboy' community is something I've long disliked when I was a Tesla owner and videos like this do nothing to sway those concerns. And now that Elon has gone off the rails and shown his true self, I'll never buy one again.

Charging should be all standard. Have connections in the same place and standardise, common sense really, another problem with EV's

Absolutely

I thought one of major features of the V4 chargers was their longer cable to allow non-Tesla’s to charge without blocking. If the Audi had parked to the left of the stall would the cable have reached? Ironically the only time I was blocked was by a Tesla using the wrong charger and blocking both of the only 2 stalls at a non-Tesla charger in Barnstaple where there are no Tesla chargers. Sadly the owner couldn’t see the problem from his perspective!

Tesla how not to win friends and influence people

When you had a Polestar you used a non Tesla charger!

60 kW is all you need if you’re going to eat inside the Burger King or buy the best cat toy ever from Pets At Home

Definitely don’t get a Porsche especially if you’re going to moan about & possibly end up getting another one!

As an e2008 driver I won’t upset you but it’s Teslas fault for saving on cable- they opened up the network which I’m very happy about😂.

It is to be expected, that once they are opened to all EV's there's nothing special about superchargers, just another charger. If the cable is inadequate then this will happen. I say this being a Tesla and a non Tesla EV driver.

Buy an ICE car, the pumps will stretch to either side. Sorted.

yes. this is the only charger i have been using. i drive 500 plus km a week. i have used the fast chargers only a handful of times.

Yes here in Sweden we have a thing with all VW ppl on Tesla supercharging stations

They already pay more than Tesla drivers. Via higher chargers per kwh or a subscription payment making them a tesla member. On v4 chargers the problem is that people don't know the cables are long enough to reach most areas regardless of how you park 🤷‍♂️ Tesla should provide clear guidance to owners.

Simple ban non-Tesla using supercharging network.

💯maybe the V5 chargers 🔌 shouldn’t allow people to get power when parked in the wrong pay…so just fine them with double the price for kWh.

If Tesla sell out. Stop buying them.. as it's there fault not the other drivers.

That's Tesla's fault,not the drivers.

the best way would be for tesla to charge other cars manufacture the same price as other chargers, then there is no incentive for the other cars to use tesla chargers

I thought the whole idea of the longer cables on the V4 was that they were long enough for all charge port locations? ...

Who says the Tesla is even "on the right side" and the Audi is on the "wrong" side. King elon opened the chargers up for non Teslas. What I see is two cars that are both on the "RIGHT" side for THEIR car. Your perspective of which side is "right" has been decided by your concensus view that these chargers are for charging Teslas, which they aren't. They're for charging all cars. King elon says so. If they're for all cars, then they are for use from whichever side the short-ass cable reaches to.

Nope, it's a Tesla problem not an other car problem

I get this! I have a Tesla, and another non tesla EV. It would be annoying if you needed it. But, there are only a few stations open to non tesla, its more expensive for non tesla, and in reality most people don't use them that often. Also, the open ones are often quite slow (only managed 50kw at Keele recently, on the Tesla) and the nearby non tesla chargers might be faster. It is odd that Tesla is giving away its one big advantage though - good infrastructure (and efficiency). I would argue that the non tesla tariff should be higher anyway as other non tesla chargers are still more expensive - some might be using the superchargers just because they are a bit cheaper than grid serve or ionity. Fair to say if they carry on like this, the case for other EV brands improves, especially as efficiency and build quality improve.

Wah wah wah, king elon said some other people can use my chargers and I'm a carist. I discriminate against cars I don't like the look of that are doing what king elon said they can do. It's not king elon's fault for letting people use my chargers. It's not king elon's fault for choosing not to spend a few quid on longer cables like other charger manufacturers do. It's the fault of those awful audis. Wah wah wah.

He just needs to drive in forwards then he can charge the right side..

I'm sorry, but you are aiming the blame in the wrong place my friend. I have a BMW i3 and the charger is on the other side to Tesla's, it's not the "wrong" side, it's simply the "other" side. Other EV users like to use Tesla chargers because they are cheaper by almost half in most cases than the Rip off DC charging stations elsewhere so of course they are going to use them if they can. On a V4 I can park nose in and use the bay a tesla would so I do, at a small inconvenience as then the cable is blocking the drivers door but I do because that is the most considerate thing to do, you know, looking at it from both sides instead of being pig headed about it. On a V3 with the short cables I would have no choice but to park on the other side though and I would do so if I can because I have as much right to be there as any Tesla driver and that is not an "other" EV drivers fault. Some other people with different EV's might not have any choice even with the longer cables. I think, if it bothers you that much, you should write an email to Tesla instead of getting on UA-cam and pointing the finger in the wrong place. Just one more thing, If I could afford a Tesla, I would get one for all the benefits they provide, but I can't afford one, not everyone has the choice.

there is a benefit because Tesla wants to electrify for everyone

First of all you own a Tesla you don’t own a single £ of a Tesla charger. The Audi driver is an idiot for charging on the wrong side, unfortunately you get these everywhere and as an ex Tesla driver then he should of had more common sense. It would have helped if he parked square for a start. I only use V4 as i just don’t like to block a charger up. Maybe charging companies should also charge Tesla drivers double the cost when they use other charges I don’t know how many times I’ve been to IONITY and a Tesla is parked up charging and considering they’re supposed to charge really quick I pull in with 5% and left with 80% and they’re still sitting there, work that one out. Don’t know why they are side on maybe an upgraded site rather than a new site. It’s all about being considerate to all drivers, the same can go for the ones that park their car in a charging bay in a gas car, like I say you get idiots that drive all types of cars and that sure as hell doesn’t exclude Tesla drivers. Lets not forget get that Tesla has taken advantage of government grants which as like many have enabled them to build more charging sites. This is no difference from someone who is filling their car up with petrol and then spends another half an hour shopping in the garage buying a Subway or a Greggs order Costa Coffee while someone else is waiting to fill up with petrol, like I say it’s being considerate for other drivers. Unfortunately like I say you always get idiots and morons but that doesn’t mean to say you have to penalise other people that are considerate to others.

Sorry mate but you are way off base here. Tesla is in the wrong here, they should be fined for not installing long enough cables for these chargers. For many of these open for all installs Tesla takes government grants and so they need to cater for all EVs as per the requirements.

Muskolini screwing over his cult followers lol