@@timcutbush you will love it....but check the body panel alignments carefully...mine has a misaligned tailgate and possible steering alignment issue otherwise its fun to drive and very quiet! I'm leasing so not too fussed about the misalignment as it's going back after 3 years Got the car booked in with tesla to check the steering alignment.( it feels a little weird at motorway speeds, constantly having to correct it and the steering wheel looks slight off when driving straight.
Another thing to be aware of is they have taken away the premium sound system from the RWD yet they don’t mention it anywhere on the website. I cancelled mine last week after finding out as they also wouldn’t confirm any other differences. They said they would update website so show differences but still no change. Good deal with the 1yr free super charging tho
7:13 noticed you dropped out of autopilot then re-engaged to adjust to the new speed limit. Hot Tip - if you hold down the right-hand-stalk the car will automatically adjust to the prevailing speed limit. Give it a try. 👍😃
I had this flash up just yesterday, the car slowed to take a tight-ish slip road onto the mway. It slowed and turned and kept up quite well….until it had a stroke and played Elvis has left the building about 2/3rds of the way around😮 ….always keep hands on 😉
The ridiculous thing is that my model X could do all of that in 2018 before these current regulations came into effect. Autopilot took a huge backward step in 2019 when these regulations were applied and in my opinion is far less safe now than it was beforehand. Crazy that regulations make things less safe.
Will admit to just using autopilot on dual carriageway and motorways. Even there I'm more often on TACC. Got to love the view coming down the hill towards Macduff on a clear day.
I feel this has been there for a while, but they’ve now giving it a name. I’ve experienced hit and miss success with corners of similar angle in the past. That and slowing for roundabouts or end of coming off a slip road. The nag is greatly reduced. Drove for 2hours 30 to pick up my partners Tesla and as long as I had a contrasting top and trousers so it could see arms (I assume, in Model Y as the camera can see them, or maybe it’s holding hands close, which it can also see in Model Y) it didn’t nag. But once it started nagging it didn’t stop. Until deactivating and restarting it. Happy to demo
It's so much easier to just drive the car than wonder what AP is going to do! I just use it as an adaptive cruise control with no autosteer. Even then it phantom brakes for all sorts of totally unnecessary reasons - so I have zero faith they will ever get FSD working well in the UK. I will give the new software a go
Same here in France. I never use AP and before every drive… every time I get in the car….. I ALWAYS disable ‘forward collision warning’, ‘lane keeping’ and I used to also disable ‘auto emergency braking’ but have found no issues when it is left on, so I leave it enabled. I never use AP on Autoroutes because it always phantom brakes at the most dangerous times!
Yes. The way autopilot applies the brakes for no reason occasionally will get me rear ended. It also slows my cornering speeds from time to time when totally unnecessary. To counter this I turn it off when I approach places where I know this will happen ( on an everyday route) and I leave my foot resting on the accelerator the rest of the time so I can counter any surprise interventions. Makes autopilot not so relaxing. However I do like the way it adapts to the car aheads’ speed . So I guess you just learn to live with it. Oh yeah. No resume button is unhelpful. Still love the car though.
@@gap9992 same here..its quite disconcerning in adaptive cruise control when it brakes suddenly, accompanied by a loud warning sound, for something it perceives to be a threat when it isnt..I'm used to it now but I drive it with with finger almost testing on the stalk ready to cancel it.
Phantom breaking can be very dangerous and is annoying, yesterday my car hard braked as a car went past me but I was half way past when it did it and we weren’t even that close side by side to each other and certainly didn’t need to break🤷♂️
I’ve had one ‘Curvature assist’ event. That was on a dual carriageway where I was doing around 60mph and the curve was so gentle I could easily have done 100+ mph if there were no speed limits and the car decided to slow down even more. It was really a very slightly curved straight rather than any sort of curve. The car still brakes quite hard for bridges along the same dual carriageway as well, so maybe something weird fooling the cameras more than normal.
Interesting update - mine came in late last week (2024.38.6) and so the first chance for a play was yesterday and today. Had very similar experiences on the A338 between Salisbury and Ringwood…behaved very well. But I am noticing the odd event on perfectly straight roads of 30 or 40 mph where the car has apparently clocked something and decided to slow right down for no apparent reason. Nursing it back towards the limit and it would repeatedly try and slow down again. Now I think I have only had three incidents of this over the course of about 250 miles, so maybe too early to draw conclusions. Otherwise - and we must always bear in mind we’re talking driver aids here, and a long way from “self-driving” - this seems a good step forward contributing mostly calm and serenity to the drive. In the video I did find myself tensing up a couple of times on right hand bends…..but in real life the behaviour seems perfectly predictable and confidence inspiring! (just my 2d, 2023 Model 3 RWD)
Mine came up with curvature assist on a perfectly straight road (A38 near Ashburton) and whacked the brakes on. Much annoyance from the poor driver behind! Then later on by Exeter Racecourse it still tried to do 70 through tight bends even when it’s barely safe at 50! Not sure if Tesla maps are manually programmed with curve angles, if it’s using camera or a mix of both, but still needs work before I’ll trust EAP fully…
Like many others that have commented I don’t (didn’t) use AP very much other than on motorways. My M3 RWD updated yesterday two hours before being sold, so no chance to experience any improvements. My other EV, a Skoda Enyaq recognises speed limits and slows down for bends and roundabouts and whilst it doesn’t have one pedal driving I believe Skoda AP is better. Will be interesting to compare with my new M3, with hardware 4, to see if is better on AP.
I haven't really got on with auto pilot etc just dont like it and the crash avoidance is way too panicky, i have to switch it off every time. Love my model y but some of the safety settings are so irritating
Totally agree, it's rubbish. Nearly had me through the screen yesterday and another car following in my boot when a car crossed the road in front over 100 yards away and it slammed the anchors on. Then on the same trip home, going through my village and someone stood between cars waiting to cross the road caused it to happen again. I switched it straight off after that, it's dangerous. I got my Tesla M Y thinking it would be the best thing since sliced bread and it isn't. The ride is crap and the systems are just not sorted, very disappointed.
Here in Germany the steering wheel nag on my 2023 Model Y is completely gone. As long as the camera can see I have my hand on the wheel, no nag is needed. Works like a a charm.
I try to use AP as much as possible on M roads and dual carriageways although it has some really bad issues such as phantom breaking and a really annoying one when passing a turn off on the motorway it often indicates a couple of times then tries to take us off then it changes its mind all scary stuff. If you are on the A1/M when changing to the A64 (York) you need to stay in the right lane as every single time it will do this 'Crazy Ivan' manoeuvre if we are in the inner lane. Then on the A64 with clearly defined dual lanes it often only see's one lane so overtaking in AP just doesn't work. Apart from that its wonderful, thing is this car still puts a smile on my face over two years in, love it!.
Love your detailed video. But I think you are wrong to describe it as limited steering. Clearly it must be able to turn the steering wheel sufficiently to get around the corner so its not limited. I think the limitation is on the G force so its related to speed and degree of rotation. Hence if it slows down it can go around tighter corners. Ie limit the G force to a prescribed level.
Where there are alot of curves i have used adaptive cruise control where I select a vehicle in front of me which I call the rabbit follow him and let-him do all the hard work All I do is steer the vehicle.If the rabbit takes the corner too fast curve assist kicks in slowing my vehicle down.This works for me there were a few occasions where the car would say mommy I’m scared please take over but other than that it worked pretty good.I realise it is a work in progress it’s not perfect but look forward to future improvements
Hi, finally a channel addressing European Tesla issues. No FSD hype, but exactly talking about real world situations. I have covered over 100.000 km my M3, but still, I am not happy with the Autopilot. I am doing all updates so my question for the moment: what release level features of the curve assist function?
I do have a question for folks. Has there ever been any mention of requesting a voice warning and screen warning softwate update that your phone has been left on the charge pad when you stop and open your door to get out? Does anyone else find this happens to them on occasion? My Audi had a voice warning ' Your mobile phone has been left in the vehicle'...very useful. I would have thought a simple software fix for Tesla as part of the regular updates. Thanks
I no longer receive nags to hold my steering wheel. I just do it with two fingers, both during the day and at night. I did have to adjust my steering wheel slightly so that the camera can see my hands better. It drives so much more relaxing 2024.38.6 in The Netherlands
Thanks for these updates. I’m a new Tesla M3 owner in Portugal and trying to get up to speed (pardon the pun) with autopilot. I’m just contemplating upgrading to EAP (im an addicted geek)
My 2023 Model Y always fails in tight corners that my 2021 Model 3 has always handled with no problem. Its even worse in the Model Y with the new Curve Assist. Now it either phantom brakes mid corner, picks wrong lane mid corner or steers directly for the curb.
A useful video and he explains but not sure many commenting get it; this is not a Tesla limitation but a LEGAL restriction in UK/Europe; Tesla is not allowed to do high speed high angle turns. I assume it’s a regulation written to suit legacy car makers and their old-school level 2 systems, the regulations need to change to allow for the more capable L2 systems now available. Yes it would be a hard regulation to get right but let’s be very clear it is not a Tesla limitation but the regulations they must work with.
It would be a lot better if the speed limiter was map based rather than camera based, it could easily be programmed to adjust for different times ofvthe day ir days of the week.
Self driving in other makes recognises the speed limit signs and slows the car down before the limit is reached, why doesn't Tesla do this or at least make it an option?
@@huwjones5879 Personally I dont think it should be an option , if you want to stop people from breaking laws the best way isvto remove or at least where possible restrict their ability to do so. It would undoubtedly save many thousands of lives each year & reduce the cost for taxpayers for policing the traffic if nobody was able to break the designated speed limits.
FSD doesn't read speed limit signs on the road. It reads the speed limit from map data. It reliably adjusts to lower limits at the sign location unless the driver has foolishly manually set it to allow it to break the speed limit. Because FSD is now a trained neural network and not human-generated computer code, it's not so easy as you might think to program in TOD actions.
I just spotted this in my YT suggestions, and it's good to have found out about the surprise that's in store for us (we're on 2024.32.7). BTW. I guess you started this channel before Musk became so toxic, but how about broadening your brand because I'm in serious "Anything but a Tesla" mode now. If I had the time I'd be launching a channel "Replace my Model Y" and getting out reviewing everything for current Tesla owners who are in various states of buyers regret
Nice video, although the action really starts at 12:00 into it. I am based in Belgium, where we drive on the correct side of the road… 😂 Can I use a short clip of your imagery in my next video about this subject please? My channel is focusing on FSD coming to Europe, step by step, but we are getting there faster than what the street thinks.
I didn't know that Belgium had swapped over to driving on the left !. Did you stagger the change over, cars first then a week later heavy goods vehicles, that would have been hilarious !
@@stevenbarrett7648 😹 Yes, that’s wat they actually did in Sweden, in the seventies! I am honestly waiting till my car drives me autonomously to visit Scotland and do a tour of the distilleries…
Do these systems not take onboard what a previous Tesla has done on that bit of road as a guide? I always thought Tesla’s all talking to each other to warn about road conditions or accidents or road works was a thing.
Hi Ian. Have you got enhanced autopilot? I’m wondering how useful that would be or if it’s not in U.K. did that update come recently? It would be useful if you told us the exact update number so I can see if I’ve received it too! We all seem to get these updates at different times. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Autopilot tried to hit traffic cones when driving through new A303 near Sparkford. It wanted to turn off at now defunct roundabout. Had to take over. So glitchy. First real problem I’ve had in the first two months of ownership.
@@justgetatesla oh ok. Thanks. Any chance of a video to get your Tesla ready at night. The iced up windscreen took me by surprise. Is there a specific order of what to press on the app before entering? And what do I do about mirrors?
I agree tesla have def gone all in on FSD when they could have enhanced the autopilot feature more and fix auto-wipers whist they are at it. I suppose they have to show something for all the extra cash people have paid for FSD, I only use autopilot on the motorways and even then it can get confused, i never use it on country roads, for one i prefer driving slightly closer to the centre to avoid drains and our country roads aren’t always in great condition so have to avoid the pot holes, especially in winter.
I agree with your point about avoiding drains and potholes. I used AP on a Motorway contraflow recently until the centre lane position meant it hit the miles of filled in holes from where Cat's Eyes had been removed, very annoying. In my Model 3 AP places itself dead centre on roads just wide enough for two cars to pass. In UK there are miles these, I dread to think of the fit it would have on the Welsh roads I drove on when I lived there. This is why I don't think autonomous driving will be 100% achievable in UK, at least not within the next two decades.
I watch outofspec reviews, a US channel but very good and test multiple vendors, amongst other things, they test these systems on the same stretch of road, and some of the legacy automakers have better systems then tesla now. Some have really good features like allowing you to adjust your position in the lane without disabling autopilot, some auto nudge over when overtaking large vehicles. But i can see it from Tesla’s point of view too, lots of people have prepaid for full self driving, so is something there under pressure to deliver
Tesla’s ACC and AP is truly terrible. They used to be best in the game back in 2017, but since the FSD push, AP has become forgotten about. Actually it’s straight up dangerous. Can’t even use cruise control in 20 limits because there’s usually cars parked on the pavements or roads and it will slam on the brakes On the motorway, my car slams on the brakes randomly, and with the new update, it brakes going around corners for no reason. Could easily have done it at 140 mph, but apparently 70 is too fast 🙄
Also they added an update a few years ago where the car will slow down for turning when you’re navigating somewhere. The problem is it slows down way too early, and it doesn’t indicate either
@@justgetatesla I have noticed the occasional slowdowns on motorways recently, and anecdotally it does seem to coincide with approaching a junction that you are navigating off at. For months, not years though. And I've not tried the new update on bendy roads yet, but it definitely slowed down an a relatively slight motorway bend that it never used to, displaying the new curve assist message. Looks like another downgrade in functionality, much like the TACC single beep you now can't turn off.
This damned feature seems like a good idea, until it suddenly activates on a straight bit of motorway at 110 km/h leaving you vulnerable to being clouted in the rear by the surprised driver behind you. Another bit of Tesla stupidity.
FSD still a lot of glitches. Never leave at broken lights. Never check which car stop first at the stop sign. AND now never driver even the lights turned green. Would you pay for that so called FSD? Those are new glitches after update.
I've never had a problem with FSD not knowing when to go at a 4-way stop. The version I have (V12.5.4.2) tried to stop for a green light, once, never again. It does have issues with flashing yellow lights sometimes, but overall it drives predictably well except at the end of the drive where I find it easier to park than to let it do it for me.
@ : it is still not FSD as they called it. FSD means full self driving. This updated version fix some problems but there are other problems that never happen before. This new version never drives on flashing red lights. Flashing red light should be treated as stop sign but this version failed.
Tesla is lagging with this - my 2024 Mini Countryman S E (the electric one) had this on delivery in April, it’s the same as fitted to recent BMWs with the option.
@@djtaylorutube My point is the UK still follow EU over autonomous driving, So they got rid of all the good EU bits and kept the bad? btw free travel between countries is not the EU but Schengen, just like ESA the UK is still a full member.
@favesongslist UNECE regulations are being followed, not EU ones. Free travel Schengen or not doesn't allow the right to live or work in the EU. Tragic loss of rights and freedoms.
@favesongslist The UK could change but given that it's the UK that has recently crippled the UNECE regulations, they're isn't much hope. The UK is a backward facing, utterly broken, failed state!
We do have fsd in the uk and have done so for years. Fsd in the uk is written in c++ , heurustic code which is a workd away from the neural nets used in the usa. We expect we will get fsd neural nets in the uk in the next 6 months.
Why do we have autosteer limited in the UK restricting the amount of wheel turn With legislation gone through for full autonomous driving we are told by Gov will be allowed in 2026 surely increasing the amount of wheel turn is a precursor to FSD Curvature assist slowing into corners should allow for greater steering lock imo. Autopilot does not handle off camber where it can't see the left white line & tends to pull into the corner (which is scary when there is a hedge) then disengages autopilot at the last second It is possible to purchase FSD supervised in the UK Anyone bought & using it? Would be good to have a free trial or subscription model as in US Could Just Buy A Tesla contact Gov for comment on autosteer restrictions?
Has any one in the UK tried autopilot whilst there head lights are switch to ‘off’? I thought I had a fault and went to a service centre who pointed out that autopilot only works when headlights are set to auto….
Kinda obvious that autopilot will want to be in charge of headlights and wipers so that it can see. And, unless it has changed recently, autopilot doesn't refuse to work, it just sets everything back to auto when you enable it. Why are you overriding the auto lights anyway? That's an option I wish manufacturers would remove, far too many numpties driving around with no lights or just DRLs in total darkness
@ so you think I’m an idiot for switching lights off in the daytime and only using day time running light? Did I not say that it worked prior to the recent update. Which idiots drive around during the day with dipped headlights. I suggest you adapt your tone and learn to read - there’s always one disrespectful asshole in these channels wouldn’t you agree.
Because AP has been mis sold (it is dysfunctional) I never use it. Because the car panics, creates dangerous situations, can’t correctly i teret speed limits, bends, hazards, non hazards…..BEFORE EVERY DRIVE….I also disable ‘lane keeping’ and ‘aeb’. Even then the car auto steers away from nothing and often this places the car closer to oncoming traffic! I have also blocked the interior camera. Now that Musk has supported a neo fascistic dangerous moron, this will be the last Tesla I will ever own.
@@justgetatesla The car (2021 M3 LR) was sold as having Autopilot and several driver safety and assist functions. None of them have ever worked as advertised and all of them make driving the car less safe than it would be without them. Tesla owners have been treated like beta testers (if the system was not completely functional at the time of purchase and is still dysfunctional, whose fault is that?), while Musk does all he can to negate drivers, including suspending functionality! So whose car is it? Maybe all of this crap works as stated in the US, where roads are straight and corners sharp but I have had far too many experiences where the car has either created a situation as a result of the system braking with an audible alert and message on the screen, or both braking and steering with alert sound and message. When that happens, without warning, I have to quickly take over and that makes the whole thing totally pointless and more stressful than it would have otherwise been. Phantom braking and steering is a serious danger.
@davidjohnbarnard great, this is new as only had the car 2 weeks os there anything I need to do other than be connected to WiFi or does it work with premium connection which I have.
Interesting video, I collect my new Tesla Model Y RWD long range in a couple of weeks, I'm very excited to join the Tesla Club!
@@timcutbush you will love it....but check the body panel alignments carefully...mine has a misaligned tailgate and possible steering alignment issue otherwise its fun to drive and very quiet!
I'm leasing so not too fussed about the misalignment as it's going back after 3 years Got the car booked in with tesla to check the steering alignment.( it feels a little weird at motorway speeds, constantly having to correct it and the steering wheel looks slight off when driving straight.
Another thing to be aware of is they have taken away the premium sound system from the RWD yet they don’t mention it anywhere on the website. I cancelled mine last week after finding out as they also wouldn’t confirm any other differences. They said they would update website so show differences but still no change. Good deal with the 1yr free super charging tho
7:13 noticed you dropped out of autopilot then re-engaged to adjust to the new speed limit.
Hot Tip - if you hold down the right-hand-stalk the car will automatically adjust to the prevailing speed limit. Give it a try. 👍😃
You can also tap on the Speed Limit icon on the screen to adjust to the new speed limit as well c:
I know that. It’s not a great system when the speed limit changes
so … driving with this thing is basically much more work than to just DRIVE … and to quote you “autopilot is useless”
It’s great on motorways. Less great elsehwere
I had this flash up just yesterday, the car slowed to take a tight-ish slip road onto the mway. It slowed and turned and kept up quite well….until it had a stroke and played Elvis has left the building about 2/3rds of the way around😮 ….always keep hands on 😉
The ridiculous thing is that my model X could do all of that in 2018 before these current regulations came into effect. Autopilot took a huge backward step in 2019 when these regulations were applied and in my opinion is far less safe now than it was beforehand. Crazy that regulations make things less safe.
What was the regulation that caused Tesla to make Autopilot worse? I live in Finland btw
Will admit to just using autopilot on dual carriageway and motorways. Even there I'm more often on TACC.
Got to love the view coming down the hill towards Macduff on a clear day.
It’s beautiful in any weather
How can the government believe it is safer for autopilot to give up halfway around the corner rather than completing the corner?
I've been happily subscribed since day 1. Another great video BTW 👍👍👍👍
I feel this has been there for a while, but they’ve now giving it a name. I’ve experienced hit and miss success with corners of similar angle in the past. That and slowing for roundabouts or end of coming off a slip road. The nag is greatly reduced. Drove for 2hours 30 to pick up my partners Tesla and as long as I had a contrasting top and trousers so it could see arms (I assume, in Model Y as the camera can see them, or maybe it’s holding hands close, which it can also see in Model Y) it didn’t nag. But once it started nagging it didn’t stop. Until deactivating and restarting it.
Happy to demo
It's so much easier to just drive the car than wonder what AP is going to do! I just use it as an adaptive cruise control with no autosteer. Even then it phantom brakes for all sorts of totally unnecessary reasons - so I have zero faith they will ever get FSD working well in the UK.
I will give the new software a go
Same here in France. I never use AP and before every drive… every time I get in the car….. I ALWAYS disable ‘forward collision warning’, ‘lane keeping’ and I used to also disable ‘auto emergency braking’ but have found no issues when it is left on, so I leave it enabled. I never use AP on Autoroutes because it always phantom brakes at the most dangerous times!
Yes. The way autopilot applies the brakes for no reason occasionally will get me rear ended.
It also slows my cornering speeds from time to time when totally unnecessary.
To counter this I turn it off when I approach places where I know this will happen ( on an everyday route) and I leave my foot resting on the accelerator the rest of the time so I can counter any surprise interventions. Makes autopilot not so relaxing.
However I do like the way it adapts to the car aheads’ speed .
So I guess you just learn to live with it.
Oh yeah. No resume button is unhelpful.
Still love the car though.
@@gap9992 same here..its quite disconcerning in adaptive cruise control when it brakes suddenly, accompanied by a loud warning sound, for something it perceives to be a threat when it isnt..I'm used to it now but I drive it with with finger almost testing on the stalk ready to cancel it.
Phantom breaking can be very dangerous and is annoying, yesterday my car hard braked as a car went past me but I was half way past when it did it and we weren’t even that close side by side to each other and certainly didn’t need to break🤷♂️
@@LysanderLH I wish we had French roads in the UK
Our road surfaces are terrible
Potholes around every corner where I live 😔
Thanks for taking one for the team testing this.
I’ve had one ‘Curvature assist’ event. That was on a dual carriageway where I was doing around 60mph and the curve was so gentle I could easily have done 100+ mph if there were no speed limits and the car decided to slow down even more. It was really a very slightly curved straight rather than any sort of curve. The car still brakes quite hard for bridges along the same dual carriageway as well, so maybe something weird fooling the cameras more than normal.
Interesting update - mine came in late last week (2024.38.6) and so the first chance for a play was yesterday and today. Had very similar experiences on the A338 between Salisbury and Ringwood…behaved very well.
But I am noticing the odd event on perfectly straight roads of 30 or 40 mph where the car has apparently clocked something and decided to slow right down for no apparent reason. Nursing it back towards the limit and it would repeatedly try and slow down again. Now I think I have only had three incidents of this over the course of about 250 miles, so maybe too early to draw conclusions.
Otherwise - and we must always bear in mind we’re talking driver aids here, and a long way from “self-driving” - this seems a good step forward contributing mostly calm and serenity to the drive. In the video I did find myself tensing up a couple of times on right hand bends…..but in real life the behaviour seems perfectly predictable and confidence inspiring! (just my 2d, 2023 Model 3 RWD)
Mine came up with curvature assist on a perfectly straight road (A38 near Ashburton) and whacked the brakes on. Much annoyance from the poor driver behind!
Then later on by Exeter Racecourse it still tried to do 70 through tight bends even when it’s barely safe at 50!
Not sure if Tesla maps are manually programmed with curve angles, if it’s using camera or a mix of both, but still needs work before I’ll trust EAP fully…
Cameras all the way
Like many others that have commented I don’t (didn’t) use AP very much other than on motorways. My M3 RWD updated yesterday two hours before being sold, so no chance to experience any improvements. My other EV, a Skoda Enyaq recognises speed limits and slows down for bends and roundabouts and whilst it doesn’t have one pedal driving I believe Skoda AP is better. Will be interesting to compare with my new M3, with hardware 4, to see if is better on AP.
I haven't really got on with auto pilot etc just dont like it and the crash avoidance is way too panicky, i have to switch it off every time. Love my model y but some of the safety settings are so irritating
@@doug52craig it really does panic at times!
Totally agree, it's rubbish. Nearly had me through the screen yesterday and another car following in my boot when a car crossed the road in front over 100 yards away and it slammed the anchors on. Then on the same trip home, going through my village and someone stood between cars waiting to cross the road caused it to happen again. I switched it straight off after that, it's dangerous. I got my Tesla M Y thinking it would be the best thing since sliced bread and it isn't. The ride is crap and the systems are just not sorted, very disappointed.
Here in Germany the steering wheel nag on my 2023 Model Y is completely gone. As long as the camera can see I have my hand on the wheel, no nag is needed. Works like a a charm.
Amazing! When do we get this in the UK🤔
I try to use AP as much as possible on M roads and dual carriageways although it has some really bad issues such as phantom breaking and a really annoying one when passing a turn off on the motorway it often indicates a couple of times then tries to take us off then it changes its mind all scary stuff.
If you are on the A1/M when changing to the A64 (York) you need to stay in the right lane as every single time it will do this 'Crazy Ivan' manoeuvre if we are in the inner lane.
Then on the A64 with clearly defined dual lanes it often only see's one lane so overtaking in AP just doesn't work. Apart from that its wonderful, thing is this car still puts a smile on my face over two years in, love it!.
I haven’t had mine try to pull the crazy Ivan for ages. Love the reference btw
Love your detailed video. But I think you are wrong to describe it as limited steering. Clearly it must be able to turn the steering wheel sufficiently to get around the corner so its not limited. I think the limitation is on the G force so its related to speed and degree of rotation. Hence if it slows down it can go around tighter corners. Ie limit the G force to a prescribed level.
As I understand it there is a legal restriction on the angle of attack which the steering can dial in on autopilot
Where there are alot of curves i have used adaptive cruise control where I select a vehicle in front of me which I call the rabbit follow him and let-him do all the hard work All I do is steer the vehicle.If the rabbit takes the corner too fast curve assist kicks in slowing my vehicle down.This works for me there were a few occasions where the car would say mommy I’m scared please take over but other than that it worked pretty good.I realise it is a work in progress it’s not perfect but look forward to future improvements
Hi, finally a channel addressing European Tesla issues. No FSD hype, but exactly talking about real world situations. I have covered over 100.000 km my M3, but still, I am not happy with the Autopilot. I am doing all updates so my question for the moment: what release level features of the curve assist function?
My Tesla updated to this and my tests mirror yours. Maybe the answer is use it for the adaptive cruise and do the steering!
The HGV 50mph signs on A9 have now had the red circle removed so that they are no longer read as restrictions for cars.
Good! That must be recent as they were still there earlier in the summer
Useful information to know, thanks.
60 mph is crazy speed on a road that is so narrow. In Finland that would be 50 to 60 km/h road
Could this be why my Model 3 screen wouldn’t come on yesterday? Update could have been in progress? It did eventually show the Tesla logo and boot up
I do have a question for folks.
Has there ever been any mention of requesting a voice warning and screen warning softwate update that your phone has been left on the charge pad when you stop and open your door to get out?
Does anyone else find this happens to them on occasion?
My Audi had a voice warning ' Your mobile phone has been left in the vehicle'...very useful.
I would have thought a simple software fix for Tesla as part of the regular updates.
Thanks
Excellent suggestion. I forgot once. Never again. Thank god I had a card in my purse
Actually it was 'Your mobile phone is still in the vehicle'
I no longer receive nags to hold my steering wheel. I just do it with two fingers, both during the day and at night. I did have to adjust my steering wheel slightly so that the camera can see my hands better. It drives so much more relaxing 2024.38.6 in The Netherlands
These comments are hilarious, I'm pretty sure most people don't understand the operating conditions for ap.
Thanks for these updates. I’m a new Tesla M3 owner in Portugal and trying to get up to speed (pardon the pun) with autopilot. I’m just contemplating upgrading to EAP (im an addicted geek)
My preloved Model 3 came with Enhanced Autopilot, all I can say is that I'm glad I didn't pay for it.
@ what year model and which HW version?
@@huwjones5879 Please tell us why. I'm also thinking of getting Enhanced Autopilot.
My 2023 Model Y always fails in tight corners that my 2021 Model 3 has always handled with no problem.
Its even worse in the Model Y with the new Curve Assist. Now it either phantom brakes mid corner, picks wrong lane mid corner or steers directly for the curb.
A useful video and he explains but not sure many commenting get it; this is not a Tesla limitation but a LEGAL restriction in UK/Europe; Tesla is not allowed to do high speed high angle turns. I assume it’s a regulation written to suit legacy car makers and their old-school level 2 systems, the regulations need to change to allow for the more capable L2 systems now available. Yes it would be a hard regulation to get right but let’s be very clear it is not a Tesla limitation but the regulations they must work with.
I said that - UNECE
Is this Basic Autopilot or Enhanced or FSD version?
Basic
It would be a lot better if the speed limiter was map based rather than camera based, it could easily be programmed to adjust for different times ofvthe day ir days of the week.
Self driving in other makes recognises the speed limit signs and slows the car down before the limit is reached, why doesn't Tesla do this or at least make it an option?
@@huwjones5879 Personally I dont think it should be an option , if you want to stop people from breaking laws the best way isvto remove or at least where possible restrict their ability to do so. It would undoubtedly save many thousands of lives each year & reduce the cost for taxpayers for policing the traffic if nobody was able to break the designated speed limits.
FSD doesn't read speed limit signs on the road. It reads the speed limit from map data. It reliably adjusts to lower limits at the sign location unless the driver has foolishly manually set it to allow it to break the speed limit.
Because FSD is now a trained neural network and not human-generated computer code, it's not so easy as you might think to program in TOD actions.
@@GaryV-p3h Welcome to the police state
@@colinnich Civilised societies have rules for very good reasons, feell free to opt out of society if you don't wish to be a part of it.
I just spotted this in my YT suggestions, and it's good to have found out about the surprise that's in store for us (we're on 2024.32.7).
BTW. I guess you started this channel before Musk became so toxic, but how about broadening your brand because I'm in serious "Anything but a Tesla" mode now. If I had the time I'd be launching a channel "Replace my Model Y" and getting out reviewing everything for current Tesla owners who are in various states of buyers regret
Musk or no Musk, Tesla remains the leading edge EV manufacturer
Nice video, although the action really starts at 12:00 into it.
I am based in Belgium, where we drive on the correct side of the road… 😂
Can I use a short clip of your imagery in my next video about this subject please?
My channel is focusing on FSD coming to Europe, step by step, but we are getting there faster than what the street thinks.
I didn't know that Belgium had swapped over to driving on the left !. Did you stagger the change over, cars first then a week later heavy goods vehicles, that would have been hilarious !
@@stevenbarrett7648 😹 Yes, that’s wat they actually did in Sweden, in the seventies!
I am honestly waiting till my car drives me autonomously to visit Scotland and do a tour of the distilleries…
Great video
Looks like your car doesn't yet have Curve Assist. When in use it should display 'Curviture Assist' above the car when it is in use.
Erm, watch the video. You see the thumbnail? What it shows on the screen? That’s taken from the video that you are commenting on…
Curve assistant 😅😂
So bends in roads have just been introduced?
It's an American car. They are afraid of corners. ;)
@David_Polak Fair point 👏
Do these systems not take onboard what a previous Tesla has done on that bit of road as a guide? I always thought Tesla’s all talking to each other to warn about road conditions or accidents or road works was a thing.
Hi Ian. Have you got enhanced autopilot? I’m wondering how useful that would be or if it’s not in U.K. did that update come recently? It would be useful if you told us the exact update number so I can see if I’ve received it too! We all seem to get these updates at different times. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Autopilot tried to hit traffic cones when driving through new A303 near Sparkford. It wanted to turn off at now defunct roundabout. Had to take over. So glitchy. First real problem I’ve had in the first two months of ownership.
No EAP, just the free version
@@justgetatesla oh ok. Thanks. Any chance of a video to get your Tesla ready at night. The iced up windscreen took me by surprise. Is there a specific order of what to press on the app before entering? And what do I do about mirrors?
Just spotted that model Y new 0% finance and 1 year FREE supercharging
I agree tesla have def gone all in on FSD when they could have enhanced the autopilot feature more and fix auto-wipers whist they are at it. I suppose they have to show something for all the extra cash people have paid for FSD, I only use autopilot on the motorways and even then it can get confused, i never use it on country roads, for one i prefer driving slightly closer to the centre to avoid drains and our country roads aren’t always in great condition so have to avoid the pot holes, especially in winter.
I agree with your point about avoiding drains and potholes. I used AP on a Motorway contraflow recently until the centre lane position meant it hit the miles of filled in holes from where Cat's Eyes had been removed, very annoying.
In my Model 3 AP places itself dead centre on roads just wide enough for two cars to pass. In UK there are miles these, I dread to think of the fit it would have on the Welsh roads I drove on when I lived there. This is why I don't think autonomous driving will be 100% achievable in UK, at least not within the next two decades.
As I said on the video, they will have to do a huuuuge amount of work for Europe…
I watch outofspec reviews, a US channel but very good and test multiple vendors, amongst other things, they test these systems on the same stretch of road, and some of the legacy automakers have better systems then tesla now. Some have really good features like allowing you to adjust your position in the lane without disabling autopilot, some auto nudge over when overtaking large vehicles. But i can see it from Tesla’s point of view too, lots of people have prepaid for full self driving, so is something there under pressure to deliver
Not allowing FSD by various government agencies is criminal and putting lives at risk.
I wouldn’t call it criminal. There are all kinds of basic regulatory questions that nobody can easily answer
Your comment that it does not recognise parked cars leaves me more than concerned!
It recognises them. And ensures you stop neatly. Not much use when driving
Tesla’s ACC and AP is truly terrible. They used to be best in the game back in 2017, but since the FSD push, AP has become forgotten about.
Actually it’s straight up dangerous. Can’t even use cruise control in 20 limits because there’s usually cars parked on the pavements or roads and it will slam on the brakes
On the motorway, my car slams on the brakes randomly, and with the new update, it brakes going around corners for no reason. Could easily have done it at 140 mph, but apparently 70 is too fast 🙄
Also they added an update a few years ago where the car will slow down for turning when you’re navigating somewhere. The problem is it slows down way too early, and it doesn’t indicate either
I don’t have those problems
AP job is to keep you in the lanes it cannot go around any vehicle which maybe fouling the white line hence the reason why it brakes.
@@justgetatesla I have noticed the occasional slowdowns on motorways recently, and anecdotally it does seem to coincide with approaching a junction that you are navigating off at. For months, not years though. And I've not tried the new update on bendy roads yet, but it definitely slowed down an a relatively slight motorway bend that it never used to, displaying the new curve assist message. Looks like another downgrade in functionality, much like the TACC single beep you now can't turn off.
This damned feature seems like a good idea, until it suddenly activates on a straight bit of motorway at 110 km/h leaving you vulnerable to being clouted in the rear by the surprised driver behind you. Another bit of Tesla stupidity.
FSD still a lot of glitches. Never leave at broken lights. Never check which car stop first at the stop sign. AND now never driver even the lights turned green. Would you pay for that so called FSD? Those are new glitches after update.
I've never had a problem with FSD not knowing when to go at a 4-way stop. The version I have (V12.5.4.2) tried to stop for a green light, once, never again. It does have issues with flashing yellow lights sometimes, but overall it drives predictably well except at the end of the drive where I find it easier to park than to let it do it for me.
@ : it is still not FSD as they called it. FSD means full self driving. This updated version fix some problems but there are other problems that never happen before. This new version never drives on flashing red lights. Flashing red light should be treated as stop sign but this version failed.
I have no idea if you guys are talking about American FSD or rest of world “FSD”
yey my fav youtuber
2024,38.6 im on and not seen any of this on my m3
Tesla is lagging with this - my 2024 Mini Countryman S E (the electric one) had this on delivery in April, it’s the same as fitted to recent BMWs with the option.
Good video, Subscribed.
When is the UK going to implement Brexit? Or is it staying in the EU
It already did, name a benefit of being in the EU that still exists for everyone in the UK?
@@djtaylorutube My point is the UK still follow EU over autonomous driving,
So they got rid of all the good EU bits and kept the bad?
btw free travel between countries is not the EU but Schengen, just like ESA the UK is still a full member.
@favesongslist UNECE regulations are being followed, not EU ones.
Free travel Schengen or not doesn't allow the right to live or work in the EU. Tragic loss of rights and freedoms.
@@djtaylorutube TY I will look up UNECE
Edit My apologies I thought they were EU regulations, not sure why the UK are following UN ones over this.
@favesongslist The UK could change but given that it's the UK that has recently crippled the UNECE regulations, they're isn't much hope.
The UK is a backward facing, utterly broken, failed state!
My car is a tool, I want to know how it’s going to behave and respond, I don’t want it changing every other month.
I want updates! Make it better! For free!
I am still on 2024.32.7 do updates all come together, or spread out over time?
In seemingly random batches
We do have fsd in the uk and have done so for years. Fsd in the uk is written in c++ , heurustic code which is a workd away from the neural nets used in the usa. We expect we will get fsd neural nets in the uk in the next 6 months.
We have “FSD Capability”. Which isn’t FSD as it’s defined now
Why do we have autosteer limited in the UK restricting the amount of wheel turn With legislation gone through for full autonomous driving we are told by Gov will be allowed in 2026 surely increasing the amount of wheel turn is a precursor to FSD Curvature assist slowing into corners should allow for greater steering lock imo. Autopilot does not handle off camber where it can't see the left white line & tends to pull into the corner (which is scary when there is a hedge) then disengages autopilot at the last second It is possible to purchase FSD supervised in the UK Anyone bought & using it? Would be good to have a free trial or subscription model as in US Could Just Buy A Tesla contact Gov for comment on autosteer restrictions?
I’m in the UK. Our government doesn’t set the international regulations
Has any one in the UK tried autopilot whilst there head lights are switch to ‘off’? I thought I had a fault and went to a service centre who pointed out that autopilot only works when headlights are set to auto….
Same sort of thing with the wipers. Switch them to 'off', then engage Autopilot, and they will reset to automatic again.
Kinda obvious that autopilot will want to be in charge of headlights and wipers so that it can see. And, unless it has changed recently, autopilot doesn't refuse to work, it just sets everything back to auto when you enable it. Why are you overriding the auto lights anyway? That's an option I wish manufacturers would remove, far too many numpties driving around with no lights or just DRLs in total darkness
@ so you think I’m an idiot for switching lights off in the daytime and only using day time running light? Did I not say that it worked prior to the recent update. Which idiots drive around during the day with dipped headlights. I suggest you adapt your tone and learn to read - there’s always one disrespectful asshole in these channels wouldn’t you agree.
Oh and do I don’t have to suffer xxxxs like you I’ll just remove myself from this channel. Shame really that a good channel can get spoiled by idiots.
Because AP has been mis sold (it is dysfunctional) I never use it. Because the car panics, creates dangerous situations, can’t correctly i teret speed limits, bends, hazards, non hazards…..BEFORE EVERY DRIVE….I also disable ‘lane keeping’ and ‘aeb’. Even then the car auto steers away from nothing and often this places the car closer to oncoming traffic! I have also blocked the interior camera.
Now that Musk has supported a neo fascistic dangerous moron, this will be the last Tesla I will ever own.
Where has it been mis sold? If your car does that it is faulty - nobody else has all that
@@justgetatesla The car (2021 M3 LR) was sold as having Autopilot and several driver safety and assist functions. None of them have ever worked as advertised and all of them make driving the car less safe than it would be without them.
Tesla owners have been treated like beta testers (if the system was not completely functional at the time of purchase and is still dysfunctional, whose fault is that?), while Musk does all he can to negate drivers, including suspending functionality! So whose car is it?
Maybe all of this crap works as stated in the US, where roads are straight and corners sharp but I have had far too many experiences where the car has either created a situation as a result of the system braking with an audible alert and message on the screen, or both braking and steering with alert sound and message. When that happens, without warning, I have to quickly take over and that makes the whole thing totally pointless and more stressful than it would have otherwise been. Phantom braking and steering is a serious danger.
You must be well pleased your man is back in the White House, your efforts have paid off.
Silly assumption. I own a Tesla, Elon is a complete c*nt, I don't get to vote in the US election and wouldn't choose Trump.
Fixed it for you.
I’m a Liberal
@justgetatesla By their deeds shall ye know them.
Never subscribe to any chanel. It just skews recommendations'. I don't want or need.
Booooo 😂
Hi I'm currently only on 2024.32.7 in my Model 3LR is this new update rollout out to the model 3?
Yes I got the update yesterday
@davidjohnbarnard great, this is new as only had the car 2 weeks os there anything I need to do other than be connected to WiFi or does it work with premium connection which I have.
me too
2024.38.6 on my 2019 M3LR. Last update a couple of days ago.