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Why Silksong Is Taking So Long
Wondering why Silksong is taking so long to come out? And why Team Cherry is staying silent? This video has the answers.
0:00 Intro
1:17 Humble Beginnings
2:29 Kickstarter
4:06 Initial Success
5:55 Nintendo's Influence
7:39 Breakthrough
10:02 Financial Difficulties
12:02 Sales
13:36 Shipping a Game
15:41 Sequel Troubles
18:05 Scope Creep
20:20 Controlled Scope Creep
25:32 Unhealthy Expectations
Description:
In 2017, Team Cherry launched Hollow Knight, a game that redefined the Metroidvania genre and captivated gamers worldwide. Over seven years later, fans are still eagerly waiting for the next chapter, Hollow Knight: Silksong, but Team Cherry has kept updates scarce, leaving the fanbase in a mix of frustration and curiosity. Why has Silksong’s development taken so long, and why has Team Cherry remained silent?
At major gaming events like Gamescom 2024’s Opening Night Live, Silksong dominated the conversation despite not even being present. Host Geoff Keighley even issued a pre-show warning to fans, reminding them not to expect Silksong updates.
In this video, we explore the possible reasons behind Silksong's delays, how Hollow Knight’s massive success may have created new challenges for Team Cherry, and why this situation isn’t as unusual as it might seem.
Sources:
web.archive.org/web/20190310082116/www.gameinformer.com/2018/10/15/the-making-of-hollow-knight
www.rockpapershotgun.com/hollow-knight-concept-art
www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/6rvds8/we_are_team_cherry_the_developers_of_hollow/
www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight
www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight/posts/1088384
web.archive.org/web/20190821064827/www.gameinformer.com/preview/2019/06/12/weaving-together-a-worthy-sequel
www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2016/03/10/actually-shipping-a-game/
www.pressreader.com/australia/edge/20190131/281685436051478
www.vice.com/en/article/why-its-so-hard-to-make-a-video-game/
kotaku.com/why-video-games-cost-so-much-to-make-1818508211
ua-cam.com/video/-7NgnKRJRBE/v-deo.html
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www.reddit.com/r/metroidvania/comments/oebdg6/the_hollow_knight_silksong_edge_interview/
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www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1dmndx6/hollow_knight_silksong_is_not_in_dev_hell_says/
www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pek7c4/hungry_knighta_profound_waste_of_time_magazine/
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arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/star-citizen-creator-calls-bullshit-on-feature-creep-and-over-ambition/
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @InnocentTropicalIsland-ol8xc
    @InnocentTropicalIsland-ol8xc 9 годин тому

    awesome video

  • @sovaxelemizzrym4377
    @sovaxelemizzrym4377 10 годин тому

    I quit a few years ago. No issues

  • @theobserver3753
    @theobserver3753 11 годин тому

    Give them 5 more years. They’re making a masterpiece.

  • @GoodJoeArt
    @GoodJoeArt 11 годин тому

    Simply, congrats on the videos huge numbers!

  • @Xevio
    @Xevio 11 годин тому

    team cherry? like the creators of kocmoc firework and more

  • @SindarNox
    @SindarNox 12 годин тому

    I actually quit it. It was nice but not amazing, until to me. It gets boring after a while and there is no story so no incentives to keep going

  • @ReadyAimFire_
    @ReadyAimFire_ 13 годин тому

    Lets be serious- it will never release.

  • @7StrifeCloud7
    @7StrifeCloud7 14 годин тому

    Let them cook!

  • @BioCreatorZ
    @BioCreatorZ 19 годин тому

    I just want something, anything. Just a little "hey, development is going well and we're not dead!" Would probably feed the silk schizos for a good 4 months

  • @not_umbre
    @not_umbre 21 годину тому

    I'd rather wait for 7 years to get a masterpiece than to wait 5 years to get a half finished game.

  • @roselelouch3038
    @roselelouch3038 22 години тому

    So we’re all scumbags and team cherry is just making are future game better and better. Oh and ofc money is evil

  • @jedim793
    @jedim793 23 години тому

    They don’t owe us anything, not like we’ve all collectively signed a contract. By playing someone’s first game you are not owed a sequel. Let them be, let them enjoy the luxury of creative freedom, the harder you push the longer it will take

  • @mexicanburrito2979
    @mexicanburrito2979 День тому

    Game has been in development longer than GTA 6 😭

  • @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

    Finally someone else pointed out how TC delayed hollow knight twice and that silksong getting delayed follows that pattern

  • @Ethan-yd4gn
    @Ethan-yd4gn День тому

    As much as I whole-heartedly believe in the "let them cook" mindset, Team Cherry could've probably dropped the game years ago to satisfactory results 💀. Mostly because its gonna be a whole decade later by the time we finally get it at this rate

  • @quandaledingle-t6h
    @quandaledingle-t6h День тому

    13:10 where is terraria? It has like 1 mil reviews on steam

  • @Tamashiki
    @Tamashiki День тому

    Ok I think they are literally gonna continue making it until they run out of money

    • @quandaledingle-t6h
      @quandaledingle-t6h День тому

      They can't run out bruh. They can easily retire, do the math. At least 1 mil sales for 15 dollars. They are millionaires.

  • @Dmon2460
    @Dmon2460 День тому

    1:02 none of this is true their just dead (joke)

  • @sregnargaming7355
    @sregnargaming7355 День тому

    Maybe 2 years later

  • @ChickenanaYT
    @ChickenanaYT День тому

    I'm happy to wait as long as they need 😊

  • @HeckYep
    @HeckYep День тому

    I LOVE card games but StS never clicked for me, I put about 20 hours in and beat it on 3 characters but just didn't find the combos interesting and thought the rogue-like random elements were too repetitive. I'm happy for the devs, but I just don't get the hype.

  • @kcinplatinumgaming2598
    @kcinplatinumgaming2598 День тому

    this game is awesome ... im doing them at moment

  • @Stereo_Joe
    @Stereo_Joe День тому

    Been playing this game for almost 4 years I think and it’s still the game I play the most till this day. Perfectly balanced. Might wait about 3 months after 2 comes out to buy that one so I get ahead on the balancing updates.

  • @Herlequine
    @Herlequine День тому

    I have been playing slay the Spire since it's beta, and at this point it has become a surity that I will return to the game every few months for a another fevered few weeks of avid play. Getting it on my phone this time round has made that all the more prominent. I never understood why this one game was so much better, but now I can truly appreciate the elegance.

  • @Njsr
    @Njsr 2 дні тому

    This video made me remember the old video game TV shows of the 90s and 00s when you tuned in for the gems of the year. Amazing. Indies really capture that sense of wonder in videogames. Really good list and hope for a 2024 new list. You channel has potencial, and your last 2 videos (slay the spire and hollow knight) show that. Keep the good work.

    • @indiegameoasis
      @indiegameoasis День тому

      Thanks! A 2024 video is in the works, so keep an eye on the channel ;)

  • @legacy6871
    @legacy6871 2 дні тому

    Only thing i can heard in the early development is the trash taste music

  • @ReachStudioPro
    @ReachStudioPro 2 дні тому

    People who are clamoring every single second of their lives about Silksong are just straight up psychopaths. It's as simple as that. Just forget about Silksong and do something productive instead.

  • @ScrewdriverGaming
    @ScrewdriverGaming 2 дні тому

    I just wish they were more vocal about things. Like, just make a post every other month and go "i spent sixty five hours fixing one bug this week :/" and i would be totally content

  • @chrisr4769
    @chrisr4769 2 дні тому

    Atrioc told me it's coming out this year though

  • @danielssss1342
    @danielssss1342 2 дні тому

    13:16 bro forgot terraria smh my head

  • @askekrause3909
    @askekrause3909 2 дні тому

    Good things come to those who wait

  • @askekrause3909
    @askekrause3909 2 дні тому

    Deepnest was reduced in size? Thank god

  • @sonkeschmidt2027
    @sonkeschmidt2027 2 дні тому

    So it's due to the emotionally immature "fans" who can't find enough satisfaction in their real life (or at least other games), to be happpy. As someone who likes to read youtube comments, I totally get that. Wish them well, hope to take their time and not let the "fans" get under their skin too much.

  • @quasarone3083
    @quasarone3083 3 дні тому

    All i can think of with Silksong is that _surely_ it can't be that hard to send a tweet once every six months simply saying "still alive, still working on it". The last communication from TC is almost 1.5 years ago. I'm sorry, i get they're a tiny indie studio but after a release like Hollow Knight and showing Silksong off at shows it's just legitimately shitty to go radio silent like this. Also the fact that Silksong is literally a kickstarter reward for OG Hollow Knight meaning they actually kinda owe it to OG kickstarter backers to give updates

  • @johnsimon8457
    @johnsimon8457 3 дні тому

    Thing is, HK had an initial release and a bunch of add-on releases. They can control scope creep to ship Silksong and then deliver addons.

  • @thermalshoes
    @thermalshoes 3 дні тому

    The silence in my opinion does more harm than good. I’m sure the game will be fantastic, but silence doesn’t give supporters reasons to be positive, it only gives rise to more negative voices. More communication is always better than less, even if it’s not giving release dates or specific game info.

  • @Bernardo1__
    @Bernardo1__ 3 дні тому

    I just opened the video bc i quited slay the spire lol

  • @Simmonds91
    @Simmonds91 3 дні тому

    It used to be that a big budget games with tens-hundreds of people working on them took 4-5 years to develop. Can you imagine what it must be like for Team Cherry? Unless they've hired people the last I heard it was a 3 man team. People are actually expecting from 3 people what took hundreds to make in less time?

  • @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking
    @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking 3 дні тому

    I’ve never played it so technically correct

  • @camdenwyeth316
    @camdenwyeth316 3 дні тому

    slop video

  • @dunterriker3301
    @dunterriker3301 3 дні тому

    At first I was upset, but I've stopped having expectations regarding communication or the release date by now. It's clear that Team Cherry doesn't want to give out any of that information and the game is just going to release when it releases. I have reached a state of zen in which I genuinely do not care if Silksong comes out or not. I have other fun games to play and if it comes out soon, Silksong will be one of those games. Until then, there are tons of things with which I can occupy myself

  • @UCrafter5000
    @UCrafter5000 3 дні тому

    You’re telling me that Deepnest isn’t completed?? It’s already huge

  • @Scholarpasta
    @Scholarpasta 3 дні тому

    Alternative title: "does team cherry work?"

  • @ChrisMagicDotNet
    @ChrisMagicDotNet 4 дні тому

    Really great video that explains it really well, thanks! I was searching for context on this topic. This was really well done. I think you just got a new subscriber.

  • @reahthorolund8373
    @reahthorolund8373 4 дні тому

    Incredibly well put together video, I'm actually taken aback. Thank you for making it.

  • @Vugen18
    @Vugen18 4 дні тому

    I dont believe most are disappointed.. im just waiting. And it went from a dlc to a full game.. and masterpieces takes time.

  • @DodgeThatAttack
    @DodgeThatAttack 4 дні тому

    so proud of team cherry for hiring mojangs devs and valves PR team

  • @greentea5071
    @greentea5071 4 дні тому

    Diceomancer says hi

  • @saulitix
    @saulitix 4 дні тому

    Hollow Knight fans would crumble if they were F-Zero fans.

  • @haron521
    @haron521 4 дні тому

    Too long? Really? You didn't seen how long episode 5 of long dark takes to release