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9lb, I believe.

The 929 comes with a muzzle cap that is interchangeable with the comp

The compensator is not allowed in USPSA Revolver division

I did it myself. It wasn't strictly necessary with Montana Gold FMJs because I can load them out to ~1.165 without needing to ream, but for most other projectiles it is required to load them long enough for 9 Major

It's the Sebo Weapons titanium compensator. Unfortunately it looks like they don't make them anymore.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa that’s what I thought I see they are no longer in production

$220 I believe.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa thank you they milled the slide to?

@@Fv_ordnance Yes, slide, comp, and barrel milling all included

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa do you have any other tips or tricks I’m shipping it next week I have to do mill work on the right side for a gas pedal also

@@Fv_ordnance Work on your grip! All the mods and gadgets only help fine tune things.

New gun is 9 Major as well. I don’t have that many rounds through it because I’ve been busy with other things, but it definitely requires more attention to keep it running properly. Some of it should improve as the gun wears in, and it’s nothing major, just removing slide and wiping out any buildup maybe mid way through a match. I did have an extractor issue but I think that’s sorted out.

Yes, I think they have one of the best windows. I don't personally really like the round lens optics like the SRO, though a lot of people love those.

They are still around for now since I need a backup. I'll put a comparison video together when I get a chance. Thankfully my ammo chronos almost the same out of both guns so I don't need to keep two separate batches of ammo just for the backup.

I'll be watching for that video. I've shot Checkmates open and enjoyed your content. I've also been considering the 2011 route, so very interested in what you have to say. @@jordan-rogers-uspsa

​@@LeelandOC I would recommend you ask every single person shooting a 9 Major 2011 at your local matches if you can shoot theirs after the match! I settled on this Nevermiss gun because it was the only 9 Major gun I've shot where I felt there was a significant performance benefit worth paying for - most of the 9 Major builds I shot weren't significantly better than my Czechmates with titanium comp, popples, and brass grips, you're mostly just paying for better fit and finish. Looking back to my original Czechmate 15k review from 2021, my thoughts have not changed a whole lot. The Czechmates are very good value, you can almost buy two of them for the price of a semi-custom or small shop 2011. 100% of people will be a better shooter if they buy a Czechmate and spend the thousands of dollars difference in price on practice ammo.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa Hey Jordan, nice shooting and great content in your channel. I am planning to get a Czechmate to shoot 9mm minor (factory ammo, blazer mostly, I can't reload unfortunately) in open division. Do you think it is viable?

@bozshooting, personally I would just spend the money on a nice Carry Optics or Limited Optics setup rather than shoot Open minor. You are at a huge disadvantage shooting minor in open.

Hahaha the Czechmates aren't gone; I'll keep them around at least until I get a backup and I'll do a side-by-side video comparing the two. It may have a slow slide return right now, it definitely looks a bit slower than the one I shot in this video: ua-cam.com/video/sIezLrCnB-w/v-deo.html, though the angle might just make that one look faster. It's running an 8lb spring (vs 10 or 11 in my Czechmate slomo videos) and this gun is extremely tight and only has ~500 rounds through it since coating, so it will wear in a bit over the next few matches.

What's the new gun built by?

I don't think there's a major reason to buy them if you have a Shadow/CZ75 since the factory and MecGar mags are very reliable and much cheaper, but for the Czechmate it definitely saves a lot of headache

You need to work on your grip. One of the best drills is to go set up a tuxedo target at 10-15 yards and practice doubles while experimenting with grip position and grip pressure and see what gets you the most repeatable and fastest dot return. The dot does not need to completely stop, it just needs to settle into an acceptable position to fire the next shot. "Acceptable" is different on a 5 yard open target than a 20 yard headshot

Springs: 11lb recoil and I think 21lb main (I went up a few lbs from factory to reduce the mushiness of the trigger. Bullet: 115gr Montana Gold FMJ OAL: 1.16" Cases: mixed brass, no idea the length, no one trims pistol brass Load: I use HS6 and CCI Small Pistol Magnum Primers. If you're using HS6 and 115gr bullets I would do ladder testing with a chronograph starting at 8.0gr, aiming for 170PF, ~1480fps. Zero: I typically zero at 20yds. Shorter range zeroes for open give you a very large offset at longer distances. Reaming: I bought a throating reamer and reamed all my barrels so I can load longer. Some FMJ profiles will let you load to 1.16" without reaming, but reaming gives you more flexibility in what you can load.

I appreciate it very much why did you choose 115 in place of 124. Also why hs6 vs autocomp or maybe accurate #7 I left some questions in another one of your videos. What are the odds your anywhere near wisconsin I’d love to pick your brain this is my first open gun and I’m definitely on the struggle bus

Also what did czc charge to do the propel holes is it worth doing? Does that affect barrel life?I also need to find some one to mill the right side of frame in order to be able to add the gas pedal I’m a south paw also is it worth the cost to add the brass mag well and grips

@@RangeIsHott I chose 115s and HS6 because that is what the internet gurus recommended at the time I was starting and it worked fine. I did try 124s and felt like the 115s were marginally better -- in theory the higher charge weight with 115s gives you more gas to work the compensator. I never experimented with different powders, though I have heard AA7 is a great one and a number of people have switched from HS6 to AA7. I will probably test it out once I near the end of my current supply of HS6. At a certain point you need to stop doing load development and just start practicing and working on your grip since grip is way more important than the perfect load. CZC charged $225 for the popples and I think it was a worthwhile improvement. It shouldn't decrease barrel life but it does require loading even hotter (about .2gr in my case), which could increase the chance of slide cracking over time I suppose. CZC or Cajun Gun Works would both probably mill yours for a lefty thumb rest. I think the brass grips and magwell increased the balance of the gun. It's not a "must have" modification, but it's a nice improvement. If I was doing it again I would get the Patriot Defense grips instead of the Lok because the PD grips are much more aggressive.

I don't think Tevo makes a thumbrest compatible with the Czechmate. I have very limited experience shooting one on a 2011 and it's a similar angle to the one I have on my Czechmates, it just sits a little higher.

Sebo also makes a steel version of their compensator, but they are the only manufacturer I am aware of making aftermarket options. I don't have any first hand experience with the TS2 but none of the changes CZ made from the TSO to the TS2 seem like they make a meaningful difference on performance; I'm not expecting major changes for any Czechmate 2, probably just a more modern optic and maybe improved balance. I'd love to see a DWX open gun!

My videos are pretty comprehensive on things you can change/might need to tune, but feel free to comment if you have any questions!

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa gun is currently tuned for factory 9×19 minor ammo. It comes with a bunch of goodies in the box, including 4 different recoil spring weights. I am not currently involved in any competition shooting. But would like to get involved in local uspsa for fun.

Welcome!

It absolutely will with the right recoil spring setup. I switched to a 10lb recoil spring right when I bought my first one and it was able to cycle minor (loaded to ~135PF) with the comp as well as Major.

The company is called Advanced Ratio Sports and Tactical. Unfortunately they don’t seem to sell them anymore, although you could try reaching out to them on FB and see if they are still making them. The closest thing is probably www.speedshooter.com/product/ipsc-alex-thumb-rest-for-cz-czechmate-tso/

Without popples I was at 8.3gr HS6 with 115gr bullets and CCI SPM primers, ~172PF. After adding the popples I needed to go up to 8.5gr. It will depend on your bullet/primer combo though. For 115s I'd start at 8.0grs and work up.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa thanks

The factory muzzle device with the front sight on it has the front sight milled directly into it, so you would have to drill a hole in it to run a piece of fiber through, which would be difficult without at least a drill press and very good fixturing. There's TSO is nearly identical to the Czechmate when the latter is in iron sights configuration -- the only difference is the Czechmate's front sight is a sight block style, but the TSO comes with a fiber front sight.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa i love my ts2 race green specially the fiber red iorns and i want to upgrade to the checkmate but if i can run the bright red iorns I’ll hold off on buying it until later on thats why i asked how to you like the checkmates iorns i heard the front post doesn’t reciprocate

That's great to hear, I'm sure they knew the V1 design required some fitting so maybe they tweaked the dimensions a little for v2

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa I received my Czechmate today and found out that the thread of the compensator doesn't fit perfectly. I can over-tighten the compensator a bit so that the slide no longer closes. how about yours?

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa My Czechmate was made in 2022 and I noticed the mag release is slightly shorter than my TS 2's mag release button. Eric Grauffel said in his video of the TS 2 Orange that CZ shortened the mag release. Maybe Sebo machined the gen 2 comp based on the new guns.

@@Revy1993 That's not really an issue since the guide rod retains the compensator with the Czechmate design. Is there an unsightly gap between the comp and slide when it's backed out? If so, you could contact CZ and see if they'll fix it (either with a new barrel or adjusting the slide).

@@facebookiseffedup my czechmate is also 22 made, do you got the aluminum mag release as stock?

I'm not really sure where the dimensions come from originally. Enough folks have had success with following them that I assume they are at least close to correct, but I think the visual-based tuning is a lot more approachable for most folks.

Nothing wrong with that setup, they will still need to be tuned but that is what most folks run for their 170mm mags. However, now that MBX offers 170s I don't see any reason to deal with the CZ 26rd tubes unless you already have them and don't want to deal with the hassle of selling them. It costs ~$180 to set up a 26rd mag + CZC extension and spring. MBX 170mm mags are $159, so you're saving money and shouldn't have to deal with tuning. The main reason I have Springer Precision extensions is because it cost about $90 to set up each of my 170s and they needed to be tuned either way.

@@jordan-rogers-uspsa thanx a lot for the tips!!

It's less of an issue with OEM mags than it is with mags with extensions. With OEM mags there is usually more spring than necessary, so as the spring compresses over time there is still plenty of energy to feed every round. As I mentioned in the video, I've never replaced my 140mm mag springs. Once you are adding extensions and extended springs the springs are usually designed to be "just enough" to feed reliably for a while maximizing capacity. For example, if my 170mm springs had two more coils they might never need to be replaced, but I would probably loose one round of capacity because 29 is a really tight fit. You can stretch springs out if they become too compressed, but they'll never go back to 100% new position so stretching is only a stop-gap until fresh springs.

My 15k review video goes into the upgrades I've made minus the Sebo Comp, brass grips, and popples, which were added after that video and included in the recoil tuning video.

Do you have anything in particular you'd like to see?

The factory big sticks are probably a bit easier to tune because even with the short CZC extension the bullet stack never goes below the control rib (the follower might though) -- it still has the issue with the double stack to single stack transition though so they are not 100% reliable, especially with JHPs. I swapped to the double sided mounts for two reasons. (1) screws will loosen eventually, with 1/3 loose there is a good chance you need to re-zero the gun, with 1/5 loose you can probably just re-torque the loose one and be fine. (2) I had two Romeo 3XL dots break with relatively low round counts (2.5k and 5k) when using the CZC mount -- I heard via a Sig sponsored shooter that the optics department recommended double sided mounts for Open guns and all of the RMAs for dots on Open guns came from single sided mounts... seemed weird to me, but I figured in combination with (1) it was worth the swap. Both of mine survived all last season but I can't definitively say it's the mount swap, improved QC from Sig, or Sig gave me hand-picked replacements after my RMAs.